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We have a very very special guest

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for this episode, none

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other than the great Laura Ingram.

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You know Laura Ingram from The Ingram Angle on

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Fox News, always speaking the truth,

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fearless, independent minded,

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which I deeply respect. I love people like

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that. I love people like her. So I

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gotta tell you it's an honor to to have her guest

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as a guest on the show. You

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know her from TV. She previously

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was a nationally syndicated radio show, The

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Laura Ingram Show. And

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also before her media days, she worked as a speechwriter

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in the Reagan administration in the late

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nineteen eighties. You know, she went on to get her law

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degree. She worked as a judicial clerk in the Second

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Court of Appeals in New York, then

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for the United States Supreme Court for Justice

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Clarence Thomas. So she's

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lived an interesting life, obviously

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accomplished a great deal, but I

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think most importantly, she's fearless and

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she's brave. I originally wanted

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to have her on to talk about life and

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to talk about some of that, you know, really interesting

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work experience she had and how

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she got into media and all those sorts of things.

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And then the FBI decided to raid Trump

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right, and the country got turned upside

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down and my plans got turned

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upside down for the things I wanted to discuss. So

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now we're gonna talk about that the impact

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it has on the country. We'll get into other things too,

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but you know, primarily just sort of talk about the

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direction this nation is

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heading in. So I hope you enjoyed

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this conversation. I know it's an honor for me. Big

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fan of Laura Ingram, I'm sure you are too. So

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here she is Laura Ingram.

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So we've got a big show today, a

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big week obviously, a lot happening in the country.

1:48

The great Laura Ingram is joining

1:50

us. You know, Laura, I originally wanted to talk about

1:53

life because you're a badass and I

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admire and respect you. But then the

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but then the but then the you know I do, but

2:00

but then the FBI rated Trump. So

2:02

you know, now we're here, Laura, and it feels

2:05

like the country is forever changed

2:08

and we have uncertain times ahead. I

2:11

think, Lisa, we have arrived

2:14

at the at the proverbial

2:16

rubicon. And you know, if

2:18

people know their history, uh,

2:21

that wasn't good. People think,

2:23

oh, we're at the rubicon, it's a new

2:25

frontier. Now. This I

2:28

think does so much to undermine

2:30

what Americans need to believe

2:33

about their government, namely that the

2:36

government exists to make their lives

2:38

better. It doesn't exist to turn them into enemies.

2:40

It doesn't exist to vanquish

2:42

political opponents. It actually is

2:45

supposed to work for us. And

2:48

if we begin to lose faith

2:50

in our law enforcement and

2:53

our federal investigative services to

2:56

the extent that I think so many people are losing

2:58

it now, you

3:00

know, to quote new Gingrich on the angerm

3:03

angle um this week, he said,

3:06

we're at the precipice. I mean, it's

3:08

not an exaggeration to say we're at

3:10

the precipice now, because

3:12

we know already. LI said

3:15

that these forces on the left I

3:17

don't like the Constitution. They're

3:19

not interested in in the Framers.

3:22

They think the Framers are a bunch of racists. And

3:25

everything about America that has kind of held

3:27

us together for two or in fifty years they think is inherently

3:30

corrupt. Uh. And so

3:32

they don't care if people don't

3:35

believe the FBI is operating

3:37

in good faith. They don't They don't care if people

3:40

think the Justice Department is essentially

3:43

the praetorian guard for a

3:45

failing administration. I don't care about any of

3:47

that, because they think the system

3:49

itself is fatally

3:51

flawed. They would much prefer, and I

3:53

say they sort the elites

3:56

who have helped build

3:58

up China all these years and let our

4:00

military deteriorate over all these years. They

4:03

would far prefer America

4:06

to be run under

4:08

a global understanding where where

4:11

all the big decisions are made elsewhere

4:13

by people we don't vote for, and

4:16

by people who don't really have much respect

4:18

for what the American experiment

4:20

was really all about. So so it

4:23

doesn't surprise me that they would

4:25

go this low and

4:29

degrade our system to the to the

4:31

extent that they are because the

4:33

people who are really pulling the levers of power now,

4:36

they don't like our system. They

4:38

think it's corrupt, and they think it's it

4:40

itself needs to be smashed and reformed

4:43

and remade into something that's much

4:47

less accountable to the people who

4:49

who they believe are also corrupt

4:52

and racist. Um So, I think that's

4:54

really the conundrum that we're facing, is a

4:56

is a ruling class that has

4:58

no respect for our foundation stional documents,

5:01

or uh, you know, our our

5:04

entire framework of of existence

5:07

and liberty for the people and

5:09

securing liberty for the people. They

5:12

don't like that, and that that that

5:14

kind of system gave us Donald Trump in and

5:17

you know, it's propelled Rhonda Santists to embarrass

5:20

all these other governors who kept their states closed.

5:23

So I think I think Americans overwhelmingly

5:25

want things to get better that. I think they overwhelmingly

5:28

want things to go back to quote normal,

5:31

um, the new normal that we

5:33

see we see playing out

5:35

since the pandemic. And we all

5:37

now see the truth about that. I mean some of

5:39

us saw it early on, but you know that's right, better

5:42

later later than never. But people

5:45

want to return to normalcy of a government

5:47

they can they don't necessarily will trust,

5:49

but they think is not purely

5:52

existing to make their lives miserable. Uh.

5:55

And I think that's what we're gonna we're gonna

5:57

see play out in these election cycles coming

5:59

up. And how is a nation survive in

6:01

in the environment that you laid out when

6:03

you have half of the country, the people

6:06

on the left, undermining our institutions and not

6:08

believing in our institutions, you know, not

6:10

believing in the documents that created

6:12

this nation and created the framework for the nation.

6:15

Yeah, how does a nation survive in that environment?

6:17

Well, I think the only way we can

6:19

the only way we've ever gotten through every

6:22

incredibly difficult situation, whether it

6:24

was a Great Depression or civil

6:26

rights struggle or you know, the Civil

6:29

War. I mean, we have to as

6:31

a people decide

6:33

that we aren't going to tolerate

6:36

a certain type of leader, that we're gonna

6:38

we're going to encourage and support

6:42

those leaders who actually respect the people.

6:44

And I think you see signs of that happening.

6:46

I mean they're I think there are too many conservatives

6:49

out there, and not just conservatives,

6:51

but other people who say, oh, we're going to hell and a hand basket, there's

6:53

no turning back, it's all law, all hope is lost.

6:56

I mean, nobody wants to follow that

6:58

that mindset. Reagan

7:00

came in in nineteen eighty

7:04

in an environment that was so

7:06

broken for America. I

7:08

mean, we had our embassy

7:11

held hostage, we had we

7:13

had Iran erupting, we had

7:15

the Soviet Union still

7:17

threatening US, we had a

7:19

massive economic disaster

7:22

on our hands, and we had

7:24

we had a complete decline

7:27

and patriotism and in a lack of

7:29

respect for our military. I mean

7:31

across the board. In nineteen seventy

7:33

nine nine,

7:35

going into nineteen eighty, America

7:38

was in a huge mass. We had terrible crime,

7:41

cities were a mass, and

7:44

we had someone to say no, no, no no, it's gonna be morning in America.

7:47

There's that we don't have to live this way. So

7:49

I believe this comes from the people, and to finally people

7:51

get fed up and they propelled someone like

7:53

Reagan. But remember Reagan lost in nineteen seventy

7:56

six. He lost the nomination in

7:58

seventy six, not by a lot, but

8:01

he began to put

8:03

together his framework all the way back in

8:06

sixty four when they really

8:08

all hope was lost for the conservative movement.

8:10

Talk about depressing back in sixty

8:12

four. And so we

8:15

have to understand that things

8:17

didn't get screwed up overnight, and

8:19

they're not gonna get fixed overnight. This is

8:21

going to take an enormous amount of work. But

8:24

I think it's possible. I mean, I just think there's so many

8:27

amazing young leaders out

8:29

there, from whether it's Josh Holly or

8:31

Tom Cotton or De Santist. Obviously,

8:34

people like Christy Nome and Um

8:37

you know, all the great political leadership

8:39

we've seen in Texas, Greg Abbott,

8:41

and so I think there's

8:44

a lot of hope. And I think I think we're

8:46

seeing this kind of begin to bubble up in the

8:48

younger people winning these primaries.

8:51

You know, some of them won't win, some of them will

8:53

win. But these are people who

8:55

are you know, these are

8:57

Hispanics, these are African Americans,

8:59

these are these are moms, uh,

9:02

young business people who have just

9:04

decided, you know something, I'm not gonna sit on the sidelines.

9:06

I'm gonna get involved. And I

9:08

think that's surprising the Democrats right

9:10

now. I think that's shocking them

9:13

of how Republicans

9:16

have really thrown off the cloak

9:18

of the old establishment that failed us

9:20

for decades and it began

9:23

begun to really embrace this more populist

9:26

conservatism that you

9:28

know that Trump smartly grabbed

9:31

onto and rode all the way to the presidency.

9:33

In So, I think there's a

9:35

lot of hope, but it's going to take a lot of work. Well

9:37

you, of course, we're a speech raider during

9:39

the Reagan administration. But to your

9:41

point, I believe that's why they're they're cracking

9:43

down, because you are sort of seeing this upraising

9:46

really not just in the United States but around the world,

9:48

the people standing up to their government

9:50

saying this is enough. COVID really accelerated

9:53

the rise of authoritarianism in the West,

9:55

and I think it's open some eyes. I

9:57

was interested to see, Laura. I'm sure you

9:59

you of Andrew Cuomo, the

10:02

guy who killed elderly people,

10:04

then covered it up saying that whoa, whoa,

10:06

this is a bridge too far. It must

10:08

be more than a search for inconsequential

10:11

archives or will be viewed as a political tactic.

10:14

So even seeing someone like him

10:16

as corrupt as he is saying that this is corrupt.

10:18

Yeah, I think that Democrats

10:21

who have kind of um been around

10:23

politics for a long time should be

10:26

very careful about what they're saying about

10:29

this search warrant. I

10:31

mean, I saw Schumer didn't say anything. He didn't

10:34

want to get dragged into it. Bernie Sanders didn't

10:36

say anything that Maybe that's just a political

10:38

tactic. I don't know, but I

10:40

gotta say, I mean to to drop

10:43

a warrant on a former president

10:45

of the United States and the guy is probably gonna be the party's

10:47

nominee in man,

10:51

you better you better have like espionage

10:54

or something like that. That's just something we that'sn

10:56

something speaking of norms that they supposedly

10:59

are so worried about protecting. That is something we

11:01

do not do. We do

11:03

not do that as a country, and they

11:06

decided to go there. I think

11:08

least you're right they're very worried about

11:11

Trump winning again, because I

11:14

kind of joke and I say, I say

11:16

Trump comes back, is going to be no more Mr

11:18

nice guy. I kind of joke

11:20

about that. But because he he

11:22

now has he's learned. I would think

11:25

that he's learned that you have to have great staff, which

11:27

I think he actually did have at the end. He might not,

11:30

he might not agree with that, but actually think he really did have

11:32

good staff, especially at the end. You have to have

11:34

great staff, and you have to hit the rent ground running

11:36

because the the the swamp will

11:38

eat you up. And

11:40

the in this lionizing of the

11:42

of the military leadership, which he did,

11:45

and I talked about this a lot this week, the

11:47

lionizing of the generals. Just because

11:50

someone's called a general doesn't doesn't

11:52

it doesn't mean that this is someone who you have to

11:55

I think is right on every single

11:57

issue in fact, these generals have been brought

12:00

up through the ranks of political correctness and

12:02

diversity, equity inclusion, and

12:05

most of them are just worried about the defense

12:07

contractor board that they're gonna land on in five

12:10

years. So Trump, I think,

12:12

has had his eyes opened about

12:15

the truth of the bureaucracy, the truth

12:17

about the Pentagon, the failures there for

12:20

for decades and decades we haven't won

12:22

a war out right, Why is that? Why don't

12:24

we ever ask for accountability

12:26

on that? And so I think that Trump wins

12:29

this time, Lisa, And

12:31

he's not going to talk about draining the swamp.

12:34

He's going to drain the swamp you

12:36

talk about you talk about terrifying for

12:38

them, Yeah, that's gonna be terrifying.

12:40

So I think I think they pulled

12:42

out all the stops because Aviator

12:45

sunglasses man ain't gonna beat him next time. Yeah,

12:47

I mean, he rolled the curtain back on how corrupt

12:49

and broken or government truly

12:52

is. I think it opened a lot of eyes. He opened my

12:54

eyes for sure, really changed my thinking on a

12:56

lot of things politically. But ultimately,

12:58

isn't this about the annualization to free

13:00

speech and wrong thing? Oh?

13:03

Yeah, I think This is one big

13:05

intimidation play. And I think

13:07

the way they handled January six,

13:10

I said it. I think the first week after the

13:13

you know, after the riot at the Capitol, that

13:15

this was going to be used as a

13:18

way to surveil justification

13:21

for more surveillance, monitoring,

13:23

intimidation. Uh,

13:26

you saw what Justice Department did with this

13:28

domestic Terror unit and expanding

13:31

what actually qualifies as domestic

13:33

terror. So I think they

13:36

want Americans to think twice before they

13:39

show up at a rally, or before they post

13:41

online, before they

13:44

open up a Christian school, Um,

13:46

you know, before they go to a

13:49

gun safety class. I mean, I

13:51

I honestly think there Their

13:54

goal here is to make the average

13:56

American complainant compliant

13:59

and and and and and worried and with

14:01

good and with good reason. I mean, when you when

14:04

you're trying to criminalize parents at school

14:06

board meetings and call that and

14:08

tackle a father who's daughter, who's

14:11

whose daughter was raped in a bathroom.

14:13

I mean, as you saw in that Loudon County video

14:16

that I think changed the whole course of

14:18

the gubernatorial race and

14:21

in Virginia, I mean, this is

14:23

gestapo stuff. This is this

14:25

is stuff that you know when I lived in the Soviet

14:27

Union, when I was a student back at

14:29

Dharmouth. I mean, I saw that stuff

14:32

in the Soviet Union. We were we were

14:34

scared about who we talked to, and we were there

14:36

because we knew we were being watched. Without

14:39

getting too conspiratorial, I mean, how how

14:41

much farther down the road do we have to get before

14:44

we approach that territory? I

14:46

mean, I'm pretty fully convinced that we're probably

14:48

a monitored to some degree, to be perfectly

14:50

honest, but uh, you know, I mean it's

14:52

just if if you're you know, if we're being honest about it,

14:55

Uh, they're probably tracking us, but you

14:57

know, we're a Republicans. Like Mitch

14:59

McConnell, I think he

15:01

truly is stunned that

15:05

the party has already left him. I

15:08

honestly think he

15:10

really can't believe that the party is

15:12

not his party anymore. It doesn't matter if he's

15:14

called Senate Majority Leader. The people aren't with

15:16

him, and I

15:19

think it took him a while

15:21

to grudgingly admit it. Obviously, in

15:23

the aftermath of this raid on Trump,

15:27

I think he was thinking Trump was finished. Trump

15:30

was murmuring about coming back, but

15:33

come on, all right, that's not gonna happen Donald Trump.

15:35

I mean, the old guard knows what's best

15:37

for the people on trade and

15:40

immigration and government spending,

15:42

and and I think he was truly shocked

15:44

when, after he was outmaneuvered

15:47

on that climate change

15:49

bill, uh, that the

15:52

reaction to the Trump raid was unify

15:55

the party around the

15:57

guy who has the America first, and

16:00

not around the guy who's

16:03

allowed government to grow and

16:05

who has never met a defense

16:08

authorization that he doesn't like, which

16:10

is Mitch McConnell. So I think I

16:12

think he truly was shocked about that, and he was

16:14

shamed into coming out and making the most

16:17

flaccid of statements about

16:19

this raid, about oh, well, we're

16:22

expected Joseus

16:24

Barbara has to be very transparent about this. Yeah,

16:27

no kidding, no kidding, they have to

16:29

be transparent about it. But it took

16:31

him, you know, a full twenty

16:34

four hours to make

16:36

any statement that he was only he was shamed

16:38

into making that statement about the raid.

16:40

But again it was a weak statement. So

16:43

I think he's I think he's shocked. I think

16:46

if they if you know, it's unlikely that

16:48

they're going to win the Senate at least, if the races

16:50

were held today, the Republicans shockingly

16:54

might not win the Senate back. But if they did

16:56

with the set it back, Mitch

16:58

McConnell's position

17:00

as a majority leader isn't a sure thing, that's

17:02

for sure. Speaking of that, what

17:05

what impact do you think this has on the

17:07

electorate heading into the mid terms. Well,

17:09

the raid I think unifies the party. I

17:11

think it has the danger of it

17:15

has the danger of also stoking Democrat

17:17

turn out because Trump's

17:19

out there again and maybe he'll announce he's running

17:22

for president again. And the concern

17:24

is that they hate him so much

17:26

that now there are people

17:28

were going to turn out on Moss as well. But I'm

17:31

not sure. I mean, I'm really torn

17:33

on and I don't know if I'll have a great answer to

17:35

this, Lisa, because it's

17:37

a tricky situation given

17:40

how precarious people's personal

17:43

budgets are right now. I mean,

17:45

most people are digging into their savings at

17:48

the middle income levels because their salaries aren't

17:50

keeping up with inflation. I mean, somehow

17:52

today they crowded about how, oh, inflation

17:55

is only eight point five They're

17:57

celebrating that, what was it? What were they celebrating

17:59

like pennies off of gas prices

18:01

and they think everyone's paying double,

18:04

but it's like, oh, you saved twenty cents or whatever. Yeah,

18:06

it's a great point. So I think that the media

18:09

will continue to try to resurrect

18:12

I should say resuscitate um

18:14

Biden Biden's performance.

18:17

Look, he's got these winds at oh because

18:19

called the change we got the we got the chip

18:22

bill. But celebrating

18:24

winds on their own

18:27

because they were bills were past, that

18:30

doesn't translate into a better life for the average

18:32

American. So we'll see how this all

18:34

plays out. I tend to believe that it's

18:37

going to make energy more expensive and

18:41

imports of various

18:43

component parts of solar panels, everything

18:45

more more prevalent um.

18:47

I don't think it's going to do much to

18:49

certainly raise the standard of living of the average Americans.

18:51

So I think their celebration or

18:54

their attempt to burnish the

18:56

Biden record or turn around his momentum,

18:59

I think that's premature. Were but that's kind of all

19:01

they have has been. I

19:03

don't think it necessarily means that

19:05

people in November are gonna say, oh God, I want

19:07

more of this. This has been fun. It

19:09

has been great. Let's go out and vote

19:12

for that guy when they you

19:14

know, we haven't even talked about the border. But I think

19:16

the immigration is under underpolled

19:19

as a concern for people. Um,

19:21

but I think when the school year starts, we're gonna have a

19:25

we're gonna have We're gonna have a lot more

19:27

concerned parents out there. Well, it

19:29

is hilarious that you've got people

19:31

like Eric Adams, You've got Democrats who

19:33

are saying, oh, you know, diversity is or strength,

19:36

you know, let them come in. We we need to take

19:39

all of them. And then the second buses start

19:41

showing up to New York City, they're

19:43

like, oh, this is gonna overwhelm our schools, overwhelm

19:45

our healthcare. And it's like, as Republicans were, like,

19:47

we've been saying this, like that's the whole

19:49

point. Welcome to the club. I

19:52

think you're right. And I think again, I think people people

19:56

conflate Trump with

20:00

with the people's overall sense of happiness

20:03

in the country. I mean, you know, Donald

20:06

Trump has been a friend of mine for twenty

20:08

five years and and I I'm

20:11

always very open about this on my on my show.

20:14

But you know, we'll see whether

20:17

that's what the country wants. I mean, what the country

20:19

country, I think is so exhausted. They're

20:23

exhausted by the battle, the

20:26

constant battle that they

20:28

they may believe that, well,

20:31

maybe it's time to turn the page if we can

20:33

get someone who has all Trump's policies,

20:36

who's not Trump right.

20:38

So the other concern though, and I don't

20:40

have a position on this one way or another, but the

20:43

other problem is is that

20:45

it's really not about Trump right. This is about

20:48

the views that Trump now brought

20:51

to the fore for the Republican Party. They

20:53

don't they don't like

20:55

his views. They don't like the fact that he

20:58

called out the military for their earliers, that

21:00

he wanted US to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan,

21:03

that he wanted to treat China and our

21:05

trade relationship with China in

21:08

a in a much I

21:10

mean it was smarter but much different way

21:12

than the globalists preferred. And

21:15

they certainly didn't like the fact that he sent all those

21:18

illegal immigrants back to Mexico that remained

21:20

in Mexico. I mean, they don't they think borders

21:22

are immoral. They think, uh,

21:25

they owning you know, owning big

21:28

SUVs is immoral. They think eating too much

21:30

beef is immoral, having air conditioning as

21:32

immoral. These people think that the

21:34

American way of life is

21:37

immoral, and

21:39

and it doesn't. It doesn't really matter in the end

21:41

whether it's Trump making the

21:43

populous conservative points

21:45

or whether it's the Santists or someone like him.

21:48

They're going to come full bar against any

21:50

Republican, even

21:53

an establishment when they saw what they did to Romney.

21:55

Romney was a caricature of Thurston Howell

21:57

the Third by the time they got done with him back.

22:00

So yeah, Trump

22:02

is a is a is a placeholder right now

22:04

for the higher and fury of the left. But

22:07

anyone who steps into that breach is going to find

22:09

the same find the

22:11

same pain being thrust at him

22:13

or her quick commercial break back with

22:15

the Great Lord Ingram. On the other side, we

22:29

talked a little bit about the economic climate right now

22:31

in the country. My viewpoint

22:34

is they want Americans impoverished,

22:36

right The whole point of the Green agenda

22:38

is to push people to more government control.

22:41

The poor people are, the less they have, the

22:43

more reliant upon the federal government they

22:46

are. Well, I think the more

22:48

people are relying on the federal government, the

22:51

less freedom. They ultimately

22:53

have to change their own destiny.

22:56

And I think the left

22:58

prefers things

23:00

like lockdowns because then

23:03

people can't move and pollute the planet.

23:05

They can't, they don't think for themselves.

23:07

The government tells them when they can travel, when

23:09

they can go to church, when they can you

23:12

know, go to the store. The

23:15

left loves making decisions for the people.

23:17

They don't want the people to have the power. And

23:20

that's why the lockdowns were so damaging

23:23

to our national psyche, to our to

23:27

our way of life too, the way people

23:29

think about life. You know, when you see people

23:31

walking around in two and three masks still,

23:35

you know, this has had a profound effect

23:37

on the American you

23:39

know, American people, and it's terrifying.

23:41

Thank god we had these red state governors

23:43

who basically, you know,

23:47

flip the bird to the to

23:49

the Feds, into the into the Blue

23:51

States and said we're not stay closed.

23:53

Are you kidding me? I mean,

23:56

it's thank god we had the

23:58

Red States, Otherwise I don't know where economy

24:00

would be today. I mean, I moved down to Florida

24:02

for that reason of leaving New York wanting

24:05

freedom. So smart I

24:08

love it, Laura, I mean it's like life has just been so

24:10

great here. I don't I don't miss New York at

24:12

all, to be honest, it's it's been lovely

24:15

New York. Sadly one of the great cities is

24:18

turned into a crime ridden hell. It's

24:20

gone back. So New York has gone back to

24:22

what it was in the eighties and seventies, and

24:25

after Julian they cleaned it up.

24:28

Now it's going back and rents are

24:30

still high. Everything is still expensive. And

24:33

you know, the left got their way because now a lot

24:35

of people have moved out and so the subway ridership

24:37

is down meaning meaning

24:40

what meaning more,

24:42

the public public structures

24:44

that they love so much are crumbling, so

24:47

you don't have money to When you don't

24:49

have people going into the city to work, then

24:52

the city start to decay. So

24:55

that's that's the flip side of there. Oh isn't

24:57

it great? Remote work? Everyone's at home, no one's

24:59

going in the office. Okay, well you tell, Let's see

25:01

what the cities are looking like in five years. Let's

25:04

see, let's see how they look. Do you

25:06

think Americans are now connecting

25:09

the dots and the correlation, as you mentioned,

25:11

you know, the bigger, the centralized government.

25:13

The bigger the government, the more problems we have, the

25:16

worse off we are as citizens. Do

25:18

you think people are finally drawing you

25:20

know that correlation after COVID? I

25:22

think more are and it's

25:24

going to take a continued effort

25:28

to educate, entertain and

25:30

inspire the voters uh

25:32

to seal that message. And

25:36

again, people forget that Reagan

25:38

campaign in all fifty

25:40

states. I believe it was almost all fifty states, and

25:42

he finished up his campaign in I

25:45

believe it was in the Bronx, So

25:47

he went everywhere. It was a different world, obviously,

25:49

and we have social media and all the everything

25:52

that we have now. But I

25:54

I maintain that the

25:57

this populous movement has to be a

26:00

fifty state movement. There's

26:02

no reason that we should have twelve, you

26:05

know, Democrats in New

26:07

England in the U. S. Senate, even

26:10

even if they're even if sometimes they're called Republicans,

26:12

they act like Democrats. There's no reason for that. I

26:14

mean, these are great states. I grew up in Connecticut.

26:17

It's a beautiful state. So

26:20

it's not gonna happen overnight. I will say that again.

26:22

But I really believe that our motto

26:25

should be no state left

26:27

behind, no city left

26:29

behind. You know, we love

26:31

this country, We love every aspect of the

26:33

country, and we refuse to give

26:35

up on St. Louis, on Chicago,

26:38

on Oakland, on Hartford. We

26:41

we we were not going to give up on you. The

26:44

left is given up on you. They use you.

26:46

We're not going to do that for you. Here's a better way.

26:49

And I think I think the more we

26:52

sell that message and

26:55

and not and be unafraid. It's

26:58

easy to say, but we really have to be on a fraid.

27:00

Oh they're gonna protest you. Of course they're gonna protest. They're

27:02

gonna hate you. Of Of course they're gonna hate you. They're gonna call

27:04

you a racist. Absolutely, we'll call you a racist,

27:07

now what. So that that's

27:09

how I think we have to approach all this. And

27:12

I think that's the point. I mean, Republicans just need

27:14

they need to stop looking for a pat on the head from

27:16

the liberal media. Understand that we're all

27:18

going to be we're all gonna be smeared, we're gonna be labeled.

27:21

We all have. But I do

27:23

think part of the path forward is through

27:25

the states. I mean, we've got twenty three g P

27:27

states, with trifecta government. If

27:30

every governor in those states bucked

27:33

up in the way that governor to Santa says, the

27:35

federal government wouldn't have as much of an

27:37

impact on their lives. Yeah, I mean most

27:39

most governmance happens at the state

27:41

level and the local level. That's

27:44

why I think you're seeing more people run for school board

27:46

and more people are getting involved.

27:48

And I've ever seen from a wide

27:51

you know, range of American society.

27:54

Oh, and I think that's that's

27:56

good. But we we do have to remember the states is where

27:58

most of it happens. And

28:01

we can't we can't. We

28:04

can't just throw up our hands and say, oh, California has lost

28:06

forever. No, it isn't a lost

28:08

forever. It's look

28:11

at what they've done to California. You think people want

28:13

to live that way? I don't think so. But

28:16

they do have a party machine that

28:18

that that that churns out votes

28:20

every you know, every two years. And

28:24

we have to build back ard my our machine there. We

28:26

used to have a party machine there. Where is it? So?

28:29

I think I think if people

28:31

believe that immigrants came to this country

28:34

just to live at the poverty line, I don't

28:36

think you're really understanding politics too well.

28:38

I think people, for the most part. I'm not talking

28:41

about the drug dealers and the human traffickers,

28:43

but most immigrants who

28:45

have come here to this country in the last twenty years,

28:48

they came here because they want a better

28:50

life, and and in

28:53

the life that they're consigned to with with

28:56

just you know, the minimum

28:59

that the government will provide you in

29:01

the quote safety net, that's

29:03

not much. And I think

29:06

we say stopped. It's time to stop

29:08

demonizing rich people and start

29:10

telling everyone if you work hard, you

29:13

can be rich too, and

29:16

free. And I think that's I mean, look, I

29:18

want to be rich. I'd love to be rich, but I want everyone

29:20

else to be rich to, you know, the left ones

29:22

to be rich and then drag everyone else down and

29:24

make it impossible for them to also get ahead.

29:27

You know, Laura, is there anything you know? It really does feel

29:29

like this upcoming midterm election is sort of a make

29:31

or break moment for the country. But is

29:33

there anything else you'd like to leave us with before we go?

29:36

I think, um, all of us, and at

29:39

times that seem so

29:41

turbulent, and

29:43

everything seems like it's operating

29:45

on a knife's edge. I do

29:48

think in this sounds that cliche, I know, but everybody

29:51

has to take the time to just be

29:53

with their friends and their family without

29:57

a political moment, you

29:59

know, with out of without

30:01

politics tinging every

30:04

aspect of our conversation, life

30:07

goes by really fast, really

30:09

really fast. So everybody,

30:11

to the extent that you can take, even if it's

30:13

an afternoon or an hour, take

30:17

time away from devices and screens

30:20

and really be together and

30:23

and pray regularly. If you if you're a believer,

30:25

pray. I mean sometimes we say we are believers that they

30:27

don't. We don't really listen to what God's telling us.

30:30

And I'm guilty of that. Um, I'm

30:32

just really speaking to myself here. But step

30:35

away from the chaos of of

30:37

of life and and take those

30:39

moments to really count your

30:41

blessings and be grateful for everything

30:43

that we have in this country and all those who sacrifice

30:46

for us. And then you can, you know, pick

30:48

yourself back up, and you know, get

30:50

back to work, whatever your work is, do a great

30:52

job, and and and really try

30:54

to love each other a lot more. And

30:58

it's not easy when you when you really just someone.

31:00

I always tell my kids when someone fights

31:02

with them or says something I said, pray for them.

31:05

It's easy to like the people who are who are

31:07

good to you, it's hard to pray for the people

31:09

who are not so good to you. So I

31:11

guess that's my staffie way to to close

31:14

out well, and that means

31:16

we're praying for a lot of people.

31:22

It's a long list, Laura, so we

31:24

got a lot of work to do. Laura

31:26

Ingram, it's an honor. I really

31:29

respect you, I respect your voice, and it's

31:31

just an honor to have you on the show. So thank

31:33

you so much for taking the time. Congrats

31:35

on the podcast. Can't wait to come back and come on TV

31:37

soon. Love it, Laura, thank you so

31:39

much. I really appreciate it. We'll talk to you certinly, so bye

31:41

bye.

31:53

What's that cool? I've

31:55

always been a huge fan of Laura

31:57

ingram. I. I love people who

31:59

are into, pendently minded, who

32:01

fight for what they believe, who are strong

32:03

in their opinions, and that's Laura. So

32:06

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32:08

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