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Doctor Fauci recently sat before

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Congress in a closed door hearing, So

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what was said during that hearing. We're

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going to talk to Senator ran Paul

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about it. He has called out doctor Fauci

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and his lies in his book Deception,

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the Great COVID cover Up. So we're going to get his

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take on what was reported from

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that hearing about the lies that doctor

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Fauci told then and before.

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And also what's the impact of

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everything that happened during COVID, particularly

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as we face a thirty four trillion dollar debt.

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How does that debt impact you? I'm going to

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ask Senator ran Paul. Also,

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he made an anti Nikki Haley endorsement.

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You're not going to want to miss this interview with the Great

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Senator Ram Paul, trust me, stay tuned.

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Senator. It's always great to have you on the show.

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I know you're a busy guy, so I always appreciate you

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making the time.

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Ye thanks for having me.

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So I've got to get you on this. I mean, well, you wrote the

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book on the lies we were told during COVID Deception,

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the Great COVID cover Up. But doctor

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Fauci recently sat with Congress

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behind closed doors for fourteen hours,

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and some alarming things were reported,

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you know, one social distancing, which

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we always knew was a first, but it

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admitted that it was it wasn't scientific,

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And then also admitted, even though he attacked

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the people who said COVID came from the lab,

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now he's saying that it's not a conspiracy to

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have thought that. So, I mean, what are your

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big takeaways from all of this, and

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what are the depths in which Fauci lied

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to us?

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You know, and virtually every major topic

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of the COVID pandemic, he's been on both

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sides of the issue. In private, he's

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often been honest. In public, he's almost always

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lied, you know. Ask early

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on by a coworker whether or not the mask

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work, he honestly responded in private

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that the pores in the mask were too large and

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that really wasn't worthwhile, and that studies

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that indicated it wasn't worthwhile. In

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public, he wears three masks, you

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know. In private, he

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acknowledged and actually in the past has

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acknowledged that natural immunity tends

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to work. If you've had the flu, you don't need a flu shot.

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He said in two thousand and four, famously

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on c SPAN, but then he became uncertain

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with COVID. He says, oh, we don't know if natural

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immunity is going to work on

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schools. He was for the lockdowns

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till he was against them, till he was four, until

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he was against him. So he just depended on

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the audience he was for. But what was remarkable

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about his testimony was that he

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couldn't recall over one hundred times. You know,

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he was smart enough to tell us what

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to do and to mandate all these things about

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our behavior, but a hundred

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times he couldn't recall when

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asked questions about these things or how they

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came about. You're right on the social

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distancing on standing six feet apart.

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I mean these ridiculous thing. I

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remember going to my son's university

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and outside in the grassy quad

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of the university, they had circles

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and you were supposed to stand in the circle six

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feet away from someone outside and talk to

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them. The plexiglass of

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these things were based on science, and yet

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every day we were berated by CNN

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and the left, Oh, obey the

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science. The right doesn't want to obey the science.

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The science was all concocted and basically

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just opinions of people on the left

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so they could do something they wanted to do something,

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But in reality, none of the things they made us

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do had any effect on the.

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Virus well, and they knew that. So

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it's more sinister in the fact that,

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you know, obviously he was pushing things that he knew

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were not true. So the question

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is why why did they

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do that?

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You know, I think there's an impulse

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to authoritarianism in many of these people.

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They go into the field to work in

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public health, to work in the government, and

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they have a not a great respect

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for individual liberty or civil liberty. These

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are the people who believe in mandates. You

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know, they've believed in mandates for a long time.

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For vaccines, they have no problem telling people.

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But for the first time, a

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large portion of the public, not just a few

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people, had doubts about the vaccines. It

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became large and widespread that people

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were looking into one, do you really

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need to take them? And then two in

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certain age groups, particularly young people, are the

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risks of the vaccine actually greater than

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the risks of the disease? And then people

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started asking, well, what is the evidence?

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I asked faluci in one of our committee

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hearings. Your government

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now says we should take three vaccines

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all the way down to the age of six months, you

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know, toddlers. And I said,

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is there any proof that the vaccines reduced

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transmission? No? I said,

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for children, is there any proof that

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they reduce hospitalization or death? And he

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says, oh, we don't have the data. Well, they do

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have the data. Almost no children,

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particularly healthy children, were going to the hospital

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or dying from COVID. So it's hard to get

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below zero. If it's already a zero

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effect from COVID, it's hard to go below

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that. In fact, when they approved the

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vaccine the Booster, the

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science committee at the CDC and the FDA

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initially voted only to give to those

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that's sixty five and older. Then

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Wilenski, Rochelle Wilenski,

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the Bidy administration, came along said oh, no, we

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won't apply to all kids. But she overruled

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the scientific committees. But they could

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never prove efficacy. So they

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said, well, if you give a shot to your

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toddler, to your adolescent, they'll

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make antibodies. That's

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not proof of efficacy, that's not proof of anything.

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That's just proof that if you give some foreign protein

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or have a protein created, your body will react

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to it. That's right, that's an immune response,

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but doesn't mean you need it. I mean if

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the response, if the answer

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were that you should take a vaccine

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as long as you get an antibody response, we could

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give you one hundred vaccines. I can give you a vaccine

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every day and you'll make an antibody response.

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Doesn't mean you need a vaccine every day. But

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yeah, it's criminal, you know, really in

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some ways literally criminal. But in

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every which way his judgment and

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his conclusions were wrong.

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We're not based in science.

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Yeah, I mean, I remember the CDC was looking at

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at an outbreak I think it was in July

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of twenty twenty one, I believe, where seventy

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five percent of the cases were vaccinated

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people. Yet Biden went on to

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push the vaccine mandate after that, knowing

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that you know, it wasn't stopping the spread.

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But you know, I wanted to get you on you know, part of

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what we're you know, the impact of

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all of that is what it's done to the economy,

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and including this thirty four trillion dollars

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of debt we're facing, you know, as Congress continues

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to deal with funding bills in the aftermath

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of all of that, How does that debt

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impact Americans?

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Well, you know, the debt is sold to the Federal Reserve,

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and does the Federal Reserve have any assets

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to buy it? No, the Federal Reserve just has a printing press.

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So the Federal Reserve creates new money. So

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whenever we have a Congress spending more

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money than it takes in, the debt

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through the Treasury bills is sold to

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the Federal Reserve and they buy it. But they buy

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it by increasing the money supply, and

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as the increased money supply circulates

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out the economy, it eventually devalues.

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So let's say, for example, you double the amount

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of money in circulation, it'll be worth

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half as much approximately, So

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inflation, home prices, mortgages,

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interests, all these things

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were effect of deficit spending. And

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we criticize the Fed lot my father has

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I have. I'd like to audit them, but really,

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Congress is ultimately the culprit

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here. If Congress weren't weren't running a debt,

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the Fed wouldn't have to finance a debt. But

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basically, the deficit leads

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to high prices and inflation, and really

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both parties are responsible. I mean, you'll

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remember the lockdowns began in the last

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administration, and the six

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trillion dollars of debt that piled

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up in about a year and a half during that were

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started in the previous administration. Now the Biden

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administration has continued that, but there

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really is enough blame to go around for both parties

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in the debt and in inflation.

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You know, I interviewed your dad not too long ago,

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and I asked him, you know, how does it feel to have been

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right about so many things? You know? And he

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was kind of like, well, not good because a lot

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of what I was predicting was bad. But you know, it's always

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good to have people affirm what

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you were saying was correct. So

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you made an anti Nikki Haley endorsement,

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which I endorse as well. Any

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chance you want to make some news on the truth

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with Lisa Booth with an official candidate endorsement.

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You know, I'm I'm fully and completely

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not behind Nicky Haley. I'm

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never Nikki and that's gonna last as

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long as I can imagine she's in the race. But

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I haven't made a decision on the others I

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like Donald Trump. I've been a personal friend. I

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defended him against the impeachments.

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But I'm troubled some by his attacks on

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DeSantis over entitlements. I

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don't think you're a serious person and seriously

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considering the danger of the debt if

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you're not willing to look at entitlements. I don't think

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we should attack fellow Republicans who have been brave.

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This is it takes some bravery and

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courage to actually stand up and say the entitlement

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programs are a problem

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of the spending that comes in or the spending

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that goes out. Two thirds of the spending

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is entitlements. One third

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that we actually vote on is military and non

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military. They call it discretionary spending.

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That's what's part of the budget we vote on. It's about

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one point seven one point six trillion

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dollars. That's also the debt, the

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deficit each year. So since you what we're

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voting on, it's all borrowed, and

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it's because of the explosion of growth and entitlements,

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but also the explosion of growth in the

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discretionary spending. So I'm one

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who thinks that we need and

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that the biggest danger we face really is

9:27

not foreign enemies, but it's our domestic

9:30

policy and our domestic debt. And

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that's why I've kind of stayed out of the presidential race.

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But I do think Nikki Haley will get us involved in

9:36

more war. I think she's more concerned

9:39

with the Ukraine border than she is with the Southern

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border. So I'm definitely never

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Nikki, and I'd decided I couldn't hold myself

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back. I wanted to have some impact,

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if at all, to make sure she doesn't win New Hampshire.

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And so that's kind of where I am right now

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and probably will remain there for the next week

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or so.

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Yeah, I just feel like she's a finger to the win

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politician. You know, what do I need to say

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today versus is you know, really believing

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in anything? What do you hope Republicans

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communicate? What do you think the messages

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should be to reach voters and to win?

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You know, I think right now we're

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doing pretty well. Actually, I mean, even with all

10:12

of the indictments and everything, I think the Democrats

10:15

have so overreached on this idea of

10:17

keeping Trump from the ballot that they've

10:19

made themselves look ridiculous. I Mean, they're all

10:21

over CNN every day crying

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democracy, democracy,

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Trump will destroyed democracy. The only

10:29

way we can save democracy is by,

10:31

oh, not allowing people to democratically

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vote for their choice if they want to vote for Trump.

10:36

I mean, it's insane, and I think most

10:38

people think it is. And I think even the independence

10:41

that sway our elections are looking at

10:43

that and saying banning somebody from

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the ballot that's not democratic. So

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I think they've overreached. And all of the polls.

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Look, Michigan had a polldo they had Trump up

10:52

eight points in Michigan. That's a state.

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If he wins Michigan, probably we can

10:56

win again. So, you know, we'll

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see what happens with this. But you

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know, I think the Democrats have overreached. And right

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now Biden's quite unpopular.

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His policies are quite unpopular, and

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frankly, his frailness and

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inability to sort of put a sentence together

11:12

or stay awake through most of the

11:15

activities that he's doing is a problem for

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them.

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Yeah, it's like the weekend at Bernie's campaign

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and President. You know, Senator

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Rand Paul always love having you, truly

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appreciate your time. You're a busy man, so We appreciate

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you giving our time and my audience as well.

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Thank you so much, No problem.

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Thanks that

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was Senator rand Paul. Appreciate him

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for joining the show. Always love hearing his

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insight. Appreciate you guys at home for listening

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every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the

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week. I want to thank John Cassio and my producer

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for putting the show together.

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Until next time,