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Hi

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everybody

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Steve I woke up my hours are all

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messed up. It's great to be back by

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the way. to be welcome back. way Yeah, we got

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a lot to talk about. So

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much. yeah we got a lot to so we

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did a Black Friday. much and dude

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I so we did a did a Friday we

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did a black new cat new cat yeah new

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cat. Yeah, cat we got a Black got

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a Black Friday deal for an

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espresso machine. and it's it's the

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kind with like a steam wand,

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you know, know. I've

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never used it. I've never been

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a been a barista before, How many times

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you have burned yourself you how many times you

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have burning or I did burn myself

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burning yourself? I did burn myself this Oh, it's

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hot. with the steel, oh it's I did for, like

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I kept I kept testing it and

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then I would drink it. And

1:01

then setting it it up had a

1:03

cup of coffee because my hours

1:05

are all messed up. So so I'm

1:07

up at up at like. 440 right

1:09

now. so at so at 440, what

1:12

time was that where you were? have

1:14

would have been like like noon

1:17

or one or something. Wow, adjusting. like

1:19

it. Yeah. But but anyway,

1:21

I I, all all buzzed from this espresso.

1:23

Oh shit, So you're just wearing to

1:25

go. wearing it's early, but like,

1:27

you know, I, um, I live

1:29

in this new spot. I live

1:31

in Long Beach now. in Long And,

1:33

uh, now, and, and- How is been quite an

1:35

adventure so far and a big

1:37

change, you know, like I'm used

1:39

to just my couch, my depression.

1:41

just my couch, my depression,

1:43

blanket that is that is soaked

1:46

with tears tears, and other

1:48

things. things. and other things and I gotten

1:50

rid of all of those

1:52

things. I have no couch.

1:54

things I have no couch. How

1:56

long long were you in your last place? place?

1:59

Nine. That's insane. Yeah, the

2:02

majority. Where were you before? Oh,

2:04

were you before that was the

2:06

was the like the hellish bachelor

2:09

pad with Will and Darren and

2:11

Sam. Yeah, that place. I remember

2:13

that place. Dude, let me put

2:16

this into perspective a little bit.

2:18

While I was living in Sherman

2:21

Oaks, in the valley, I was

2:23

still working at source fed. Like,

2:25

there was still source fed. I

2:28

was still married. You were still

2:30

married. I was like, I was

2:33

pretty freshly divorced. Yeah, you were.

2:35

And I was just right behind

2:37

you. You were right behind me.

2:39

It's all right. And Joe is

2:41

any minute now. God, I mean,

2:43

from what he's been telling us.

2:45

Yeah, he's finally doing it. Um,

2:47

uh, and good, and honestly, Heather's

2:50

getting the, she's getting the benefit,

2:52

she's benefiting from it more than

2:54

Joe is. Let me ask you,

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do you feel disconnected from your

2:58

friends now that you're, do you

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feel a sense of distance? For

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those who don't know, Long Beach

3:05

is probably like what, an hour

3:07

from where you were. Yeah. Not

3:09

that many miles, but Los Angeles.

3:11

And you're more in like Los

3:13

Angeles, Los Angeles. Yeah, well this

3:15

is still Los Angeles, but it's

3:17

like, which makes me, which is

3:20

comforting. But I read something the

3:22

other day that said, you have

3:24

to drive 45 minutes to get

3:26

to Los Angeles in Los Angeles.

3:28

Yeah, yeah, that's good. Like it's

3:30

just, that's the most accurate way

3:32

to like kind of put into

3:35

the fewest words of how like

3:37

ridiculous the traffic and overpopulation and,

3:39

and, and, uh, you know, just

3:41

how difficult it is. Like, I

3:43

really don't live that much further

3:45

away from where I was. Like,

3:47

I keep thinking and feeling like

3:49

it is, but truthfully, Elliot, I

3:52

feel so far away from everybody.

3:54

I feel like, yeah, it's crazy.

3:56

And it was, it was like

3:58

a really, like, scary. like it

4:00

was a hard decision to make

4:02

to do this. It was a

4:04

really hard decision to make to

4:07

do this. Yeah, because, you know,

4:09

it's one of those things where

4:11

it's like. It's

4:13

getting to the point where

4:15

I can't really survive on

4:17

like where I was living

4:19

alone, you know, without some

4:22

help or roommate or something

4:24

like that, or some or

4:26

hundreds of thousands of dollars

4:28

suddenly making their way into

4:30

my bank account. So

4:32

it was like a decision of

4:34

necessity as well as like you

4:36

know life change and moving in

4:38

with my girlfriend and You know

4:41

it's been it has been quite

4:43

a different situation, but

4:45

I think I after you know, if

4:47

you're like in the same place for

4:49

nine years and like, you know, a

4:52

lot of things have happened during that

4:54

time for me, but if you're in

4:56

like the same spot for like ever,

4:59

and it seems like you're never going

5:01

to get out of the situation and

5:03

like maybe you're comfortable in that situation,

5:06

but you know that it would be

5:08

better for your life and more beneficial

5:10

for your mental health and all those

5:12

things to just kind of like, like,

5:15

Try a new thing and try getting

5:17

out of that and trying an entirely

5:19

new thing. I think it is worth

5:22

exploring even if you don't need to

5:24

And you're like because you know I

5:26

had all those feelings of like I

5:29

love where I'm at I love my

5:31

little balcony and I love being walkable

5:33

to a movie theater and to record

5:36

dynamic banter with Mike and all of

5:38

those things that were really comfortable and

5:40

nice you know made me kind of

5:43

like not want to leave obviously and

5:45

and this situation kind of forced me

5:47

out of those comfortable feelings and now

5:50

I'm just you know in this situation

5:52

where I here I am and I

5:54

got at least be here for a

5:57

year because that's fucking renting and leasing

5:59

and all that shit works. When you

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say it was a difficult decision, did

6:04

it take you, do you mean it

6:06

took a while for you to make

6:08

as you were going back and forth

6:10

or like you knew it was the

6:13

right decision but it was still difficult

6:15

to actually pull the trigger on it?

6:17

Well my girlfriend and I were like

6:20

discussing living together for a while and

6:22

you know and talking about how much

6:24

easier would be to survive with dual

6:27

incomes and and you know sharing a

6:29

rent and in some convenient location because

6:31

she lived in Anaheim and I lived

6:34

in the valley and so that kind

6:36

of commute to just see each other

6:38

really sucks sucked and so we were

6:41

like well let's let's find some place

6:43

between those places that

6:46

would make it easier for us to

6:48

see each other. And so that decision

6:50

made it easy, but what I mean

6:53

when I say that it was like

6:55

a really hard decision to make was

6:57

like, because we started looking and then

7:00

we found this particular place pretty quickly,

7:02

and I didn't really expect to find.

7:04

a place that would like end up

7:06

being our place so fast and so

7:09

it didn't really give me time to

7:11

like consider that I was gonna lose

7:13

all this stuff you know I was

7:15

gonna lose this comfortable place I lived

7:18

in so that was the really tough

7:20

decision and and yeah it kind of

7:22

came down to like maybe we should

7:25

just You know, forget about this place

7:27

and just keep looking and, but the

7:29

more we did that, the more it

7:31

felt like we were just throwing money

7:34

into an incinerator, you know, without sharing

7:36

a rent together. And so it's just

7:38

like, there were just all these factors

7:41

that made it necessary, but really difficult.

7:43

Because yeah, I mean, the friend thing

7:45

especially dude, like it's like gonna be

7:47

really isolating out here, even though it's

7:50

like really not that fucking far. Yeah,

7:52

it's just mentally just mentally and people

7:54

already are hard to like pull out

7:56

their homes. Oh yeah, yeah. Like it's

7:59

it's just doesn't happen here. That's just

8:01

it just doesn't happen here. It's hard

8:03

to do. When you walked out of

8:06

your old place for the last time,

8:08

did you feel a sense of? Dude,

8:10

it was weird. Did you get emotional?

8:12

It was weird. I thought I would

8:15

get emotional, but instead I just kind

8:17

of like stood in the darkness of

8:19

the apartment because all the lights were

8:22

gone and all the things that lit

8:24

up the place were all packed away

8:26

and in the new place. And it

8:28

just, you know, do you remember that

8:31

finale of Fresh Prince? the last episode

8:33

of Fresh Prince. Yeah, when he's like

8:35

standing in there. That like I just

8:38

couldn't help but feel I you know,

8:40

we're so media trained. We're so like,

8:42

it's just baked into my brain. Like

8:44

I was walking along the beach the

8:47

other day and I was singing the

8:49

like Nestle quick, the Nestle jingle. Like

8:51

I was like singing it out loud

8:53

and I was like. Can't I just

8:56

disconnect for a second and just enjoy

8:58

nature? And like, you know, like, I

9:00

don't need this consumerism that has infected

9:03

my brain to also infect me while

9:05

I'm in nature and I'm in a

9:07

place where I should just be thinking

9:09

about nature. Yeah, we're inundated. Well, congratulations.

9:12

It sounds like you're growing as a

9:14

person, Steve. And I hate to play

9:16

that. I know it's not good news

9:19

and no one likes it, but. It's

9:21

definitely going to be a huge adjustment

9:23

and but I'm going to set up

9:25

this room here and I'm going to

9:28

start streaming again really soon because I

9:30

need to like connect with people and

9:32

familiarity and you know setting up this

9:34

area is like my priority because I

9:37

definitely want to get back to like

9:39

you know the things that I did

9:41

in my nine years in in Sherman

9:44

Oaks I want to like reconnect with

9:46

those things here and see if it

9:48

works. Is that a dedicated room you're

9:50

in right now? Like do you have

9:53

your own space where you can, you're

9:55

okay. So it's not like all. the

9:57

spaces are shared or like? No, no,

10:00

it's actually like quite a big place.

10:02

It's like a two story, little like

10:04

townhouse, condo kind of thing. Nice. And

10:06

yeah, we have our own spaces, we

10:09

have our own offices and. And yeah,

10:11

I just got to I just got

10:13

to work in here, you know, like

10:15

I'm probably gonna do some painting maybe

10:18

and I'm rearranging and yeah, it's gonna

10:20

be it's gonna be good man. I

10:22

just need to get to a point

10:25

where I can kind of get back

10:27

to the things that that make me

10:29

happy and And then, dude, it's also

10:31

crazy because I'm like, I desperately want

10:34

to get back to finding the things

10:36

that made me comfortable and happy while

10:38

I was living in the valley. But

10:41

I also have this overwhelming feeling of

10:43

like, I need to go out and

10:45

explore. Yeah. It'll make you feel like

10:47

you're part of the community, which will

10:50

make you feel more like home when

10:52

you walk out and you learn the

10:54

area. Is it walkable? You have like...

10:56

It's totally walkable. Yeah, it's not as

10:59

walkable as where I was, but there's

11:01

also like scooters everywhere and it's in

11:03

it's like... It's really alive over here.

11:06

Like if I was very alive and

11:08

I just love not, I feel like

11:10

I'm not as much in a concrete

11:12

jungle as I was. And it feels

11:15

more like there's a little bit more

11:17

nature and natural things rather than just

11:19

human built shit everywhere. Nice

11:22

to have a beach there. That's

11:24

pretty cool. Dude, it's so nice,

11:26

Elliot. Like I grew up in

11:28

Oxnard, pretty close to the beach.

11:30

My parents took us to the

11:32

beach all the time. You know,

11:34

learn how to swim at a

11:36

young age. And so, you know,

11:38

as someone who's like basically like

11:40

a golf little like afraid of

11:42

the sun kid, you know, I

11:44

really do like find calmness and

11:46

joy at the beach, you know,

11:48

so it's nice to be close

11:50

to you. you it would be

11:52

the coolest most bad-ass thing if

11:54

you were to in your individuation

11:56

process that you're going through right

11:58

now which is typically an process

12:01

that happens for some people can't

12:03

come more conscious, but if you

12:05

were to as part of your

12:08

growth, get a wet suit and

12:10

a long board, a surf board.

12:12

Could you imagine? Learn to surf.

12:15

Can you imagine the pictures? You

12:18

would look like the coolest guy. It

12:20

would be really cool. I'd just get

12:22

like more tattoos and grow my hair

12:24

out long again and just be like,

12:26

let's go, I'm a surfer boy now.

12:28

Or a shell necklace or whatever they

12:30

do. Yeah, the puka shells. Yeah. But

12:32

just do like a 90s version of

12:34

like a beach boy, a surfer guy.

12:37

I think that's a great idea and

12:39

I look forward. You know, I do

12:41

love those ideas. I love the idea

12:44

of like leaning really hard into something

12:46

that like is not me at all

12:48

and just like going for it. Like

12:51

I used to have a fun idea

12:53

that I would like learn how to

12:55

like dance really really well. like just

12:58

take dance classes and just yeah yeah

13:00

right and I dream of that too

13:02

and suddenly just busting out like amazing

13:05

dance moves. I've been thinking like I

13:07

want to do a like even just

13:09

those stupid tick-talk dances I would like

13:12

how to do yeah it can't be

13:14

that hard. No it can't be I

13:16

mean the tick-talk dances seem like they're

13:19

literally like paint by numbers, but to

13:21

be able to just actually dance is

13:23

pretty cool. It makes me, yeah, I

13:26

did look so much fun and it,

13:28

you know, and people are impressed by

13:30

it and you know, that's all, that's

13:33

what life's about, impressing people and showing

13:35

them that you're not, you're not a

13:37

boring pleb, you don't, you don't blend

13:40

in with the crowd. You're like fun

13:42

and cool and approachable. Yeah. The point

13:44

of things is that other people look

13:47

at you and go. Oh yeah, yeah,

13:49

that is the point of it. That's

13:51

the point of all of this. Yeah.

13:54

All right, well, fuck my dumb shit.

13:56

Let's talk about your awesome trip you

13:58

just went on, man. Yeah, crazy dude.

14:01

Happy to be back? I am happy

14:03

to be back. had an awesome time.

14:05

We went to Dublin, then London, and

14:08

then from London, we went to Budapest,

14:10

and then, which is pronounced Budapest. Oh

14:12

shit, was that hard to like remember

14:15

and like get right? a little bit

14:17

yeah and then there's Vienna that is

14:19

beautiful and we went to Prague and

14:22

in Vienna and Budapest there were a

14:24

bunch of Christmas markets that was very

14:26

cool now I'll go in chronological order

14:28

first of all is insane trip like

14:31

I've never had trip like this is

14:33

the biggest like like yeah biggest trip

14:35

you've ever been on like two big

14:38

suitcases planes trains trains Automobiles. Yeah. Have

14:40

you seen that clip of Steve Martin

14:42

when he's looking through the script from

14:45

planes trains and automobiles and he starts

14:47

crying? No. Oh really? It's part of

14:49

his documentary. It's really a sweet moment,

14:52

but he's like in his office. And

14:54

he takes this script out and he

14:56

starts reading the monologue that John Candy

14:59

originally had in the script, but they

15:01

cut it down. Like just one or

15:03

two lines. And he starts reading and

15:06

he just starts like crying. It's really

15:08

beautiful. shit, like at the end when

15:10

he's like pouring his heart out and

15:13

telling him about his dead wife and

15:15

stuff. Yeah, and like how he latches

15:17

on to people and really beautiful. But,

15:20

so we did Dublin, it was me

15:22

and Grace and then we went with

15:24

Chip and Mamery to Dublin and London

15:27

and then we did a show in

15:29

Dublin, two shows in London, all of

15:31

them were sold out, which was really

15:34

cool. Oh, that's incredible. Met a bunch

15:36

of really great. people and viewers and

15:38

fans of various whether or or grace

15:41

or Valley folk and source Fed. Oh,

15:43

that's so sweet. Isn't that sweet to

15:45

venture out into the world and and

15:48

and get us this nice little reminder

15:50

that like people really liked our shit

15:52

like a lot of people watched our

15:55

shit and they liked it and they're

15:57

all over the world. It's nuts. And

15:59

they some people traveled. like different countries

16:02

just to go to like the like

16:04

things people were coming from like Scandinavia.

16:06

Whoa just to see you guys to

16:09

see Grace and yeah yeah it was

16:11

really cool and so that was fun

16:13

and we did. That

16:16

and then we did a bunch of,

16:18

it was like, we did a, went

16:20

to the Freud Museum, that was cool.

16:22

And then we did. Whoa, that was,

16:24

is that something that was on your

16:27

list or something? Or. Yeah, Vienna is

16:29

where Freud lived and he had to

16:31

leave the house because of the Nazis.

16:33

Yeah, heard of them. Actually, let me

16:35

do a little wiki search on these

16:37

guys. They keep hearing the name and

16:40

I don't really know what we're dealing

16:42

with here. Yeah, I'll just go. I'll

16:44

just do it in the background. Just

16:46

get figured up. And we went to

16:48

a, also on that note, a Holocaust

16:51

museum, which is pretty insane. Whoa. That

16:53

was very somber. We did that in

16:55

Prague. And then, uh, just went around

16:57

did a bunch of stuff. And then

16:59

like, Grace got sick basically immediately. And

17:01

then she got me sick. And so

17:04

the first half was kind of bad.

17:06

But yeah, after that we felt. Great,

17:08

and then came back and flew back

17:10

on Thanksgiving, which is a little bit

17:12

of a life hack that I have.

17:15

Yeah. That was really beautiful. Great experiences.

17:17

And so, and did you make like

17:19

a list of things before you left

17:21

that you're like, these are things that

17:23

I want to do? Or were you

17:25

like, I'm just along for the ride

17:28

and, you know, if there's time, I'll

17:30

check out some shit. Mostly that we're

17:32

kind of chill when it comes to

17:34

like coming up with plants I wanted

17:36

to do the Freud Museum Because I

17:39

like Freud and then that was kind

17:41

of like a tentpole thing but besides

17:43

that it was like we wake up

17:45

and go like all right what do

17:47

we want to do we'll walk around

17:49

we used to travel agent which was

17:52

crazy nice done that before I've I've

17:54

looked into it and it seems so

17:56

good it seems like they're probably the

17:58

way the only way to do it

18:00

if you're going to do like multiple

18:03

countries like that or like you know

18:05

yeah Yeah, we did a train ride

18:07

that one of them like the trains

18:09

was so cool. Did they have like

18:11

a restaurant bar car that you can

18:13

go to and like. up out of

18:16

your seat and just like walk wherever

18:18

you want to walk between the cars

18:20

and like we found a booth and

18:22

they serve you food and you can

18:24

grab like a beer and then just

18:26

like look at the countryside. Oh my

18:29

god. Really amazing. And so in the

18:31

dude Vienna. I mean all the places

18:33

were beautiful. Prague was like a mixture

18:35

of Vienna and Budapest and I'm probably

18:37

people who are familiar with these areas

18:40

I you know I'm an idiot so

18:42

I'm sure that they have they might

18:44

disagree but my impression was that Prague

18:46

was like this mixture of you know

18:48

there's like still kind of cool street

18:50

art and some spray paint it looks

18:53

like more lived in Vienna was like

18:55

the most pristine place. I've ever been

18:57

in the whole private. I kept grace

18:59

and I kept being like this feels

19:01

like Disneyland but like real like you

19:04

know when you go to Disney and

19:06

there's all these kind of beautiful areas

19:08

that are clearly disnified and yeah it's

19:10

like super maintained and like and yeah

19:12

like it seems like it's designed purposefully

19:14

to be like a beautiful. Yeah, and

19:17

we would like be, we'd walk around

19:19

a corner in Vienna and then it

19:21

would be like another ancient cathedral or

19:23

like giant castle or something and we'd

19:25

be like, whoa, look at that. And

19:28

it's really amazing. And so it was

19:30

a nice, it was very, what a

19:32

blessing. Would you go back? I mean,

19:34

I'm sure you would, but like, is

19:36

that something you plan to do or

19:38

you're just like, I'd love to someday

19:41

and then probably won and we'll die

19:43

and never go back? Yeah, I think

19:45

we'll probably if anything it made us

19:47

go like, oh, we're capable of traveling

19:49

because we felt very nervous and like,

19:51

it's overwhelming to like walk around it,

19:54

not no languages and not like the

19:56

currencies would change the time zones would

19:58

change and so it's kind of like,

20:00

it kind of gets, it is like

20:02

exhausting after a while, but the pace

20:05

we went at helped a lot. And

20:07

so now it's just like, oh, we

20:09

can do this, we can actually travel

20:11

and and not. you know, rip each

20:13

other's faces off or anything. Oh, that's

20:15

good. So it was kind of, it

20:18

was also kind of a little test

20:20

to see if you could do something

20:22

like this. Yeah, like an adult thing.

20:24

It felt very like an adult. we'd

20:26

be like, oh, we're gonna, we have

20:29

to be here and we're gonna, you

20:31

know, I, dude, you know, it helps

20:33

so much with chat GPT. Really? What

20:35

the fuck? I would like take PDFs

20:37

of like our train tickets that we're

20:39

in different languages and just upload it

20:42

and be like, can you explain what

20:44

we're supposed to do here and what

20:46

like, you know, what seats we're in

20:48

and what, what we do step by

20:50

step and it would be like, you

20:53

want to get there, And it was

20:55

accurate and it was right, like there

20:57

was no like, this is outdated, this

20:59

isn't correct. Not that it hasn't done

21:01

that in other areas, but for this,

21:03

these purposes, our purposes was very, very

21:06

helpful. And like, yeah, oh, sorry, go

21:08

ahead. No, go ahead after you. Well,

21:10

I was going to say that like,

21:12

you know, of all my anxieties and

21:14

things, like I would have so much

21:17

anxiety about a lot of things in

21:19

those situations. But one thing that I

21:21

could think of right away that would

21:23

like make me anxious would be like,

21:25

what am I going to do with

21:27

all my luggage? Like, were you like

21:30

dragging your luggage through places and feeling

21:32

like, man, I really wish I wasn't

21:34

dragging my luggage through this place right

21:36

now? Like. Yeah, when we landed in

21:38

Prague and got off the train, I

21:40

looked at the map and I was

21:43

like, oh, they were like a five

21:45

minute walk to the hotel. I was

21:47

like, this is great, we don't need

21:49

to catch an Uber. Yeah, I'll just

21:51

walk, but all of the roads are

21:54

like old cobblestone roads. Oh, so you're

21:56

trying to roll your cards. Yeah, it's

21:58

like, I would carry like the big

22:00

suitcases. They were like exactly like, you

22:02

know, 50 pounds or whatever, because they,

22:04

we kept having to switch things around

22:07

because, you know, you get charged more,

22:09

it's heavy, but like, yeah, I was

22:11

walking through that at one point, and

22:13

I was walking through like, And you're

22:15

like, sorry. And you're like, I'm disrupting

22:18

this beauty with this like, this luggage.

22:20

American trash coming rolling through. Right. Yeah.

22:22

You wonder, yeah, we're tourists. Yeah, exactly.

22:24

Are we tourists? That's the number one

22:26

way to prove your tourists is lugging

22:28

like too much luggage. And even though

22:31

it's like a five minute walk, it

22:33

probably felt like forever dragging all that

22:35

shit, right? It really did. Yeah. It

22:37

was the longest walk, five minute walk

22:39

of my life. But still cool and

22:42

fun. And when you get in there,

22:44

they're like, welcome to the. Oh man.

22:46

And with cute with with wonderful accents

22:48

and stuff and it just you just

22:50

feel like you're in a different land.

22:52

Except I will say when in Vienna

22:55

there was a stark switch on that

22:57

first train ride from Budapest to Prague

22:59

or excuse me Budapest of Vienna where

23:01

like the accents changed to German or

23:03

like German sounding and very like like

23:05

it's an aggressive sounding accent when you're

23:08

not used to it. And it also

23:10

like a lot of people. It just

23:12

made me feel like I was always

23:14

talking like Christoph Waltz and glorious bastards

23:16

and that kind of. So it was

23:19

like, oh, that's a harsh act. And

23:21

people there aren't necessarily like the nicest

23:23

people. They're not like bubbly because they've

23:25

been through a lot of wars. Yeah.

23:27

So they have a kind of like,

23:29

like people told us beforehand and gave

23:32

advice of like, don't take it personally

23:34

like these people aren't really mad at

23:36

you, but doesn't. I still have that

23:38

thing. You hate me. It's getting used

23:40

to just being like, I'm going to

23:43

sound like an idiot. And can you,

23:45

a lot of like pointing at things

23:47

on menus instead of trying to say

23:49

them? I'll be like, I'll have this

23:51

one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That. Yeah. And

23:53

you could read the menus. The menus

23:56

were like, were some of the menus

23:58

kind of like, whatever man. Let's just

24:00

eeny, eeny, eeny, minimo this shit. So.

24:02

dude what would we do if we

24:04

didn't you know everyone was like scared

24:07

of AI and I understand like the

24:09

whole like there's a lot of AI

24:11

stuff I mean we've talked about this

24:13

before like I just to me it's

24:15

like I you know AI is like

24:17

scary in some ways and I understand

24:20

some people are worried about their jobs

24:22

and their careers and things like that

24:24

but it's like. Just imagine needing something

24:26

that AI provides for you very easily

24:28

and getting that easily, you know, like,

24:31

and how much more, how much easier

24:33

it will be to travel with AI.

24:35

Yeah, and right? It's like having a

24:37

little assistant and I have also heard

24:39

about like concerns and environmental concerns about

24:41

AI and like the amount of water

24:44

it uses and yeah, all that stuff

24:46

and I totally sympathize with it. And

24:48

I also am guilty of just being

24:50

like, yeah, I'm still gonna. Well, it's

24:52

one of those things where it's like,

24:54

so there's nothing we could do to

24:57

stop it. Right. I don't

24:59

know how anyone's going to slow

25:01

it down. You can't. And you

25:03

can't just be like, you know

25:05

what, I'm just not going to

25:07

support that. You know, like that's

25:09

how you do it. You don't

25:11

support it. And then you live

25:13

your life without it. And everyone

25:15

around you is living this like

25:17

futuristic convenient lifestyle. And you're the

25:19

one that's just like struggling, not

25:21

adopting this thing. And it's like,

25:23

look, I get it's destroying the

25:26

environment. That's awful, but like think

25:28

about all the things we do

25:30

every day that destroy the environment

25:32

that if we like suddenly stop

25:34

doing, we'd have to completely change

25:36

our lives in a way that

25:38

is almost impossible to like try

25:40

to not participate in anymore. So

25:42

it's like, I don't know what

25:44

to do, Elliot. It's totally like,

25:46

you know, it's a, it's a,

25:48

it's a big problem to be

25:50

like, I want to do the

25:52

right thing all the time. But

25:54

it's so hard to do the

25:56

right thing all the time when

25:58

they make it hard. do the

26:00

right thing all the time? They

26:03

do, and I think that the

26:05

corporate kind of pressure on the

26:07

individuals to be the ones who

26:09

carry the weight, I think we

26:11

should be as environmentally friendly as

26:13

individuals as we can. But like

26:15

sure, at the end of the

26:17

day, there's like, you know, this

26:19

is decades of deregulation and massive

26:21

corporations that have been able to

26:23

destroy the environment and unleash PR

26:25

campaigns to convince individuals that were

26:27

the ones that need to just

26:29

recycle and everything will be fine.

26:31

Right. They're just like doing atrocities

26:33

constantly. Well yeah, and I always

26:35

think about how like we, you

26:37

know, we're always told to like,

26:40

you know, only use the AC

26:42

during these hours when it's hot

26:44

in the summer and the California

26:46

thing. Yeah, and only use this

26:48

much water and shit. It's like

26:50

nobody else is doing this. Am

26:52

I gonna be the only one

26:54

in this neighborhood that's actually doing

26:56

this? And then I'm the one

26:58

that's like hot as fuck and

27:00

like dirty because I can't take

27:02

a shower and like, yeah. I

27:04

just don't, it's so hard to

27:06

participate in society when it feels

27:08

like nobody gives a shit. You

27:10

know? You know? Yeah, that is

27:12

very true. God, and even more

27:14

so. It's so crazy, man. What

27:17

do we do, Elliot? How do

27:19

we live, how do we, how

27:21

do we live a more environmentally

27:23

conscious lifestyle when we're being pressured?

27:26

to not to just participate in the

27:28

destruction of this planet with everybody else.

27:30

I think you're doing it when you

27:32

take walks on the beach that's true

27:34

reenchanting you which gives you a better

27:37

connection and then that leads you know

27:39

that's a good point dude one less

27:41

car on the road one less Yeah,

27:44

that and just like being around,

27:46

you know, feeling the sand in

27:49

the water, just being like, okay,

27:51

this is nice. And then just

27:53

like appreciating things that yeah, then

27:55

it makes the nature less abstract

27:57

and less of an idea and

28:00

it makes the more about the

28:02

connection that you have. So it's.

28:04

a moral decision. It's a personal,

28:06

respectful. Yeah, yeah, respectful. But also,

28:08

I don't know. Oh yeah, I

28:10

forgot. Yeah, I forgot you don't

28:13

know. I don't know. Dude, I

28:15

was reading this thing that said,

28:17

because you know, there was this

28:19

post on the Disney World subreddit

28:21

that they were, it was someone

28:24

posting while they were on the

28:26

ride while it shut down. And

28:28

they said the ride was shut

28:30

down because somebody dumped cremains all

28:32

over the ride. And you know,

28:35

this happens, you know, people, this

28:37

happens all the time. And people

28:39

talk about, you know like i

28:41

want my ashes spread at Disneyland

28:43

or i want my ashes spread

28:46

here there or whatever but the

28:48

thing they don't realize is that

28:50

like if you spread your ashes

28:52

at Disneyland you're just gonna end

28:54

up in the garbage your ashes

28:56

will end up in the garbage

28:59

because they send cleaners in and

29:01

it's really fucked up by the

29:03

way because it's you know you're

29:05

you're you're basically like dusting crumbled

29:07

up bones, ashed up bone fragments,

29:10

and you're forcing people to kind

29:12

of like walk around in it

29:14

or breathe it in or whatever.

29:16

And it's like, you know, but

29:18

the person that was posting about

29:21

it was saying, I can't think

29:23

of a worse way to leave

29:25

someone that you actually cared about.

29:28

you know even though it's a

29:30

nice thought to be like yeah

29:33

they'll their ashes will be at

29:35

Disneyland and maybe there's some mystical

29:37

thing where their their ghost will

29:39

haunt Disneyland and that's wonderful you

29:42

know they love Disneyland or Disney

29:44

World or whatever it is a

29:46

lovely thought but the reality is

29:48

is that it gets vacuumed up

29:50

and goes into the garbage and

29:53

that's that and then it'll be

29:55

it'll leave Disney property and your

29:57

loved one will be garbage somewhere

29:59

in Florida some landfill or something

30:02

And, and sparked this discussion about

30:04

spreading remains and what you want

30:06

to do with remains and things

30:08

like that. And a lot of

30:10

people were like, I want my

30:13

ashes buried with a tree and

30:15

I want to like help that

30:17

tree grow. I want my nutrients

30:19

to help the tree grow and

30:22

shit like that. And someone jumped

30:24

in and was like, you know,

30:26

I hate to be that guy.

30:28

Once you're cremated, once you're like,

30:31

there's zero. You're ash. You're ash,

30:33

and you're actually a detriment to

30:35

the growth of some living thing.

30:37

Well, that is a great example

30:39

of being that guy. It's

30:42

like the Demi Downer. Yeah. But

30:44

it's good to know these things

30:46

because, you know, I always thought

30:48

about how like, you know, being

30:50

buried in a coffin and then

30:53

being buried in the ground in

30:55

a grave seems so expensive and

30:57

waste, a waste of space and,

30:59

you know, we're already overpopulated, like

31:01

we're gonna have to start doing

31:03

shit that New Orleans does. New

31:05

Orleans has started stacking bodies in

31:07

the walls. like literally

31:10

because it's like we there's no more

31:12

room in the ground there's no more

31:14

there's no more like you know uh

31:17

land and you're essentially when you buy

31:19

a grave you're buying land to like

31:21

be in for eternity yeah you're

31:23

buying like a plot of land and

31:26

it's like man how wasteful and like

31:28

what a waste of space you know

31:30

this could be some beautiful park or

31:33

something And so I always try to

31:35

think of some way to be like

31:37

not just like a big gross waste

31:40

of space burden on society by being

31:42

just like buried in some plot somewhere.

31:44

And so I always thought like I

31:47

want to be a plant or a

31:49

tree or I want to, you know,

31:51

make me something that will be useful

31:54

for like the growth of something that

31:56

will at least help people get oxygen

31:58

or food or you know, thrive for

32:01

animals and shit like that. So you

32:03

do think about ways to be like

32:05

useful as a dead body somehow, you

32:08

know, and not just like a waste

32:10

of space. And so what that proved

32:12

was is that if you want to

32:15

be useful as a dead body, if

32:17

you want to like supply nutrients for

32:19

some trees or something, like there is

32:22

a process where you basically become fertilizer.

32:25

But it's not the process of

32:27

burning your body into ash. It's

32:29

like a different process that combines

32:31

you with things that would then

32:33

be helpful to the environment or

32:35

helpful for something like that. And

32:37

that post made me think about

32:40

how, well, I guess you can't

32:42

just dump my ashes under a

32:44

tree and think it'll help that

32:46

tree. Yeah. You know, and I

32:48

don't know, what are you, what

32:50

are your thoughts on all that?

32:52

I would say, I mean, my

32:54

goal is to have every part

32:56

cremated except for my head, save

32:58

the skull, use the cremated ashes

33:01

to use lab lab made diamonds

33:03

and form my ashes into two

33:05

small sapphire diamonds, place those diamonds

33:07

in the eye sockets of my

33:09

skull and put that on a

33:11

mantle so I can watch my

33:13

family and grandchildren throughout the generations.

33:17

And the diamonds are the conduit from

33:20

the other side. And the diamonds are

33:22

the only way. I thought you for

33:24

sure would have seen that meme. That

33:26

is a plagiarized idea. Wait, what? I

33:28

did not see that. Also on Reddit,

33:31

it's this woman being like, am I

33:33

the asshole for not wanting this to

33:35

do this to my husband's cremations? And

33:37

it's like, my husband has a really

33:40

specifically if he wants to have happened

33:42

and it's keep this goal, make diamonds

33:44

for the diamonds in the eyes. Dude,

33:48

come on, that's ridiculous. I do love

33:50

the idea of being like, because you

33:52

know, I always try to think of

33:54

like, what's the fun way to be

33:56

like a dead person? Like could I

33:59

be like a? Like

34:01

is there a way for me

34:03

to be it? And why would

34:05

I want to be it? And

34:07

why would anybody want me to

34:09

be a taxidermy? And who would

34:12

want the responsibility of like display

34:14

or like keeping me, you know,

34:16

preserved or whatever? I'm just writing

34:18

down what's the fun way to

34:20

be a dead person. What's the

34:22

fun way to be a dead

34:24

person? Like I always thought, oh,

34:27

what do you mean what, what,

34:29

right? On Disney World? Oh it

34:31

was haunted man, oh it was

34:33

haunted mansion, sorry, that's a good

34:35

one. I mean that's funny. Somebody

34:37

said that they wanted to be,

34:40

they wanted to be, they wanted

34:42

their remains to be flushed down

34:44

the toilet of a resort hotel

34:46

at Disney. at Disney World so

34:48

that they could then be a

34:50

part of the irrigation system and

34:52

then be like actually spread throughout

34:55

because they recycle the water and

34:57

they use it in certain areas

34:59

of the park or whatever but

35:01

some people have done that does

35:03

I mean that when you're well

35:05

yeah I think so I think

35:08

anything you could think of any

35:10

way you could think of sneakily

35:12

leaving the remains or cremains of

35:14

someone at like a very popular

35:16

Destination has probably been attempted or

35:18

done successfully or not. I think

35:20

you put it on a seat

35:23

in Muppets 3D because they're never

35:25

gonna get that out. Dude. Just,

35:30

you know, those, you know, those

35:32

videos that like suddenly are gone,

35:34

the ones where like they would,

35:36

there'd be like a chunk taken

35:38

out of a wall or a

35:40

chunk taken out of something and

35:42

they'd get like ramen and they'd

35:44

like put a piece of ramen

35:47

there and then like sanded it

35:49

down and then like painted it

35:51

like, what if someone took like

35:53

one of your bones and then

35:55

like chopped off the seat a

35:57

little bit of some thing and

35:59

then like stuck it in there

36:01

and then like, you know, that

36:03

would be the way to do

36:05

it to do it to do

36:07

it to do it, I guess.

36:09

vision though, man. That's too soon

36:11

to talk about Muppet vision. Oh,

36:13

no, you didn't hear? I thought

36:15

it was staying. It's not staying.

36:17

That sucks. This is recent information.

36:19

They're removing it. It will be

36:21

destroyed and they're putting in like

36:24

monsters land or some monsters ink

36:26

shit. And it's gonna be part

36:28

of Monstropolis or some dumb shit.

36:30

And then. But I think the

36:32

way to like calm the audience

36:34

and calm the fans, there was

36:36

a tradeoff. They're turning the Aerosmith

36:38

rock and roller coaster into an

36:40

electric mayhem muppet roller coaster. All

36:42

right, that would be cool. that's

36:45

cool that's cool like the theater i

36:47

feel like muppets belong in a theater

36:49

like that kind of environment where they're

36:51

doing a show and i know i

36:53

love when you had the big fluffy

36:55

guy that comes out i know sweetoms

36:57

would come out and it was such

36:59

a it was such a four d

37:01

experience really well it was like you

37:03

know you got the screen happening and

37:05

you get like the water effects and

37:07

wind and shit and then you got

37:09

the animatronics and the penguin orchestra and

37:11

the penguin orchestra and What we one

37:13

of the things that we asked up

37:15

on was we thought Grace and I

37:17

that when it was Halloween we were

37:19

thinking about going to like Oogie Boogie

37:21

back or whatever yeah like way late

37:23

on the tickets and I was like

37:25

well why don't we get tickets for

37:27

like one of the Christmas things yeah

37:29

since you know you have to buy

37:31

them so far in advance and Grace

37:33

accidentally got tickets to Mickey's very Merry

37:36

Christmas party. which is in Orlando. Oh,

37:38

you thought it was going to be

37:40

Disneyland. Yeah, so like I thought I

37:42

was like, oh, we're going to come

37:44

back and we're going to see those

37:46

Christmas markets and then we're going to

37:48

go to Mickey's, Mary Mary Christmas party,

37:50

it's going to be so Christmas season,

37:52

so cute, it's going to be adorable.

37:54

And then I was like, wait a

37:56

minute, I've never heard of Mickey's, Mary,

37:58

Mary, Mary, Christmas party being at Disney.

38:00

I've only ever seen and been there

38:02

at Disney World. where the tickets were

38:04

and you can't transfer them to Disneyland

38:06

but we call. Oh, uh-oh. So are

38:08

you guys gonna go to Disney World

38:10

and like make it happen? We called

38:12

them and they were. You know, after

38:14

saying they hoped we'd been having a

38:16

magical day, they informed us that we

38:18

can keep the tickets for like as

38:20

long as possible. Oh, like five years

38:22

from now, be like, hey, we never

38:24

use these. And as long as you

38:26

have the confirmation number, they'll let us.

38:28

So it's all fine. That would make

38:30

me have a magical day. Yeah, I

38:33

was like, okay, that's fine. And now

38:35

it was, but also I was really

38:37

just born, because I love Mickey's, Barry,

38:39

Mary, Mary, Mary. Have you done that

38:41

before? No, I don't know anything about

38:43

it. What is it? Magic Kingdom, and

38:45

it's like one of those parties where

38:47

it's after hours, and then they give

38:49

you like free hot chocolate and cookies

38:51

everywhere. And it's like snow and like

38:53

Christmas, I guess. I

38:55

don't even know if Disneyland. Disneyland?

38:57

I'm so sorry, dude. I'm so

38:59

sorry. It is what it is,

39:01

dude, whatever. I'm sorry. Yeah, no,

39:03

I mean, you know, like, sometimes

39:05

we just have to get out,

39:07

like, you know, if there's things

39:09

bothering us in our lives, it's

39:12

really hard to. hold it back

39:14

when it's like the most extreme

39:16

feelings, you know, and it's one

39:18

of the worst things that could

39:20

happen. Yeah, it's so it's much

39:22

healthier to let it out and

39:24

you know, no matter how severe

39:26

or horrible it is like let

39:28

it out man. You're amongst friends,

39:30

you know, the listeners of the

39:32

Valley cast and myself. Thank you.

39:34

This is the place to do

39:36

it if you're gonna vent on

39:38

something really horrible like that. Can

39:40

I tell you something about Europe?

39:42

Yeah, tell me everything about Europe.

39:45

This might be controversial. Okay. And

39:47

then I have some questions about

39:49

Europe as well that I'd like

39:51

to throw in the mix if

39:53

I if there's time. I, um,

39:55

how do I word this? You're

39:57

familiar with like facial reconstruction and

40:00

Oh yeah, oh yeah, man,

40:02

it's everywhere. Now what I

40:04

heard, and I could be

40:06

totally, I could have been

40:08

misinformed, but my understanding, and

40:10

it matches with what I

40:12

saw in Europe, is that

40:14

we here in the states

40:16

have a little bit more,

40:19

not to use this word

40:21

again, regulation around that stuff.

40:23

And I didn't know that.

40:25

My understanding is do not

40:27

have as many regulations. Oh,

40:29

I'd love to know what

40:31

you mean by that. There

40:33

are, maybe I don't go

40:36

out enough in LA to

40:38

see this, but the amount,

40:40

there are people walking around

40:42

that, like you can just

40:44

get Botox. from a

40:46

friend and they'll just like go

40:48

to town on you and so

40:51

there were people constantly where like

40:53

I would be kind of like

40:55

whoa you did do too much

40:57

all like like to more of

41:00

a degree than here yeah yeah

41:02

that was my experience like of

41:04

being like Oh, you got to

41:06

tone this down and it made

41:08

me a little concerned because I'm

41:11

like, this is so getting so

41:13

popular with the Kardashians, this kind

41:15

of look that a lot of

41:17

people are going for with the,

41:19

you know, very large lips and

41:22

very kind of like very unnatural.

41:24

Yes. And like to the point

41:26

of that's almost I guess what

41:28

they're going for. So yeah, it

41:30

was wild. I'm like, like. but

41:33

shocking like shocking yeah like I

41:35

am and hey do whatever you

41:37

want I just like totally do

41:39

it in 40 years when like

41:41

is that and yeah why is

41:44

that the the go-to look right

41:46

now well it's interesting like I

41:48

think about that a lot too

41:50

because it's like it's hard to

41:52

to deny that there are a

41:55

lot of people that alter their

41:57

their person their their uh What's

41:59

the word I'm looking for? Their

42:01

appearance. their appearance because you know

42:03

insecurities or potentially a status thing

42:06

like you know like like I

42:08

was unhappy with the way I

42:10

looked so I had the money

42:12

to afford to change those things

42:15

and this is a visual representation

42:17

of the wealth that I have

42:19

or you know or whatever whatever

42:21

it is but societal pressures all

42:23

of those things all understandable all

42:26

I get it like if I

42:28

had If I somehow had more

42:30

money than I knew what to

42:32

do with, I'm sure I would

42:34

eventually do something. That was like,

42:37

oh yeah, because you know, I'd

42:39

have some doctor go like, hey,

42:41

you know, I noticed those bags

42:43

under your eyes are looking a

42:45

little, you know, we can take

42:48

care of that. Like that's just

42:50

your natural. Yeah, we'll take care

42:52

of that and it'll look natural

42:54

and it'll be whatever. And I

42:56

think it's great. Sure, whatever. Do

42:59

whatever the fuck you want, right?

43:01

It's your money. It's your life.

43:03

You do whatever the fuck you

43:05

want. And do it, you know,

43:07

like I don't want to be

43:10

angry. I don't want to get

43:12

angry about it. There's no reason

43:14

to get angry about it. There's

43:16

a little reason to be angry

43:18

about this blurtingness. It would change

43:21

like attraction. and

43:23

change. Yeah, shifting. Like is

43:25

it like it's shifting the standards

43:27

of beauty, which might not

43:29

be super concerning because, you know,

43:32

if you think about what

43:34

the standards of beauty were

43:36

like 20 years ago, 40 years

43:38

ago, 60 years ago, 100

43:40

years ago. you know there's there's

43:43

all sorts of like changes

43:45

and and people just change

43:47

gradually and whatever but the idea

43:49

that this is a like

43:51

a medically induced change and not

43:53

necessarily a natural change right

43:55

has has me worried that you

43:58

know because that because really the

44:00

side effect of things like

44:02

that is is that these young

44:05

kids think that this, that's

44:07

something to aspire to. Right. A

44:09

complete change in your appearance. There's

44:11

something you're unhappy about that

44:13

you were born with. You can

44:16

change that. And there are

44:18

a bunch of risks associated

44:20

with doing that in general, risks

44:22

associated with surgeries, elective surgeries,

44:24

and things like that. But it

44:27

worries me about what it

44:29

does to young people and turning

44:31

the tide for attraction and things

44:33

like that. And do you

44:35

think it'll get to a point

44:38

where natural beauty is like

44:40

no longer a thing that people

44:42

aspire to grow into? Maybe, yeah,

44:45

I mean, because it's like,

44:47

I think if you have something

44:49

on your face or body

44:51

and you don't like it,

44:53

you go with God and you

44:56

do whatever you want. Yeah.

44:58

But there is like, I think,

45:00

an over correction where it's

45:02

like, you know you're

45:04

not course correcting you're kind of

45:06

just you're the going like real

45:08

far and extreme to the point

45:11

that it's kind of cartoonish and

45:13

it's like a caricature of what

45:15

a human would look like and

45:17

nothing against these I wonder too

45:20

there is societal pressure I think

45:22

there is societal pressure I think

45:24

there's a lot of doctors out

45:26

there who are going you know

45:28

oh well we can do that

45:31

but once you do that I

45:33

don't know I mean it's see

45:35

my worry is that there would

45:37

be like an addictive quality to

45:40

it. We are so lucky to

45:42

be dudes. Because we can get

45:44

old and get an age and

45:46

there's like a, ooh, silver fox

45:48

or oh, this guy's, you know,

45:51

whatever. But there is the whole

45:53

cougar thing, which is like, you

45:55

know, something that is society like,

45:57

you know, accepted as like, as

46:00

a beauty standard. this is a

46:02

cougar and cougars get young boys

46:04

and still enjoy their like, you

46:06

know, their youth in their own

46:08

way. But there's just that whole

46:11

thing about like, you know, like,

46:13

especially celebrities, like you see them

46:15

on screen now and you're like,

46:17

whoa, like I do not remember

46:20

them looking like that. And then

46:22

you just kind of go like,

46:24

okay, well that, hey, that was

46:26

their choice, that was their decision,

46:28

but you can't help but be

46:31

like, man, I just, and again,

46:33

like this is my own like

46:35

insecurities probably too, and whatever else,

46:37

and me wanting things to be

46:40

the way that I want them

46:42

to be. But it's like, I

46:44

would love to see what this

46:46

person looked like aging naturally and

46:48

like, you know, like there was

46:51

a time where you could like

46:53

watch these classic stars. age and

46:55

then get really old and you're

46:57

like whoa they're really old but

47:00

you're like but that's how that's

47:02

you know we're all gonna get

47:04

old so it's it's it's nice

47:06

to see that you know even

47:08

these super rich people can't avoid

47:11

getting old and now that's like

47:13

they're paying to avoid getting old

47:15

what fear death yeah speaking of

47:17

our moms do you find cougars

47:20

more as you age do you

47:22

are more attracted to older women?

47:27

I you know my 20s

47:29

when I was 21 22

47:32

I wouldn't think I would

47:34

find many like 45 year

47:36

olds attractive yeah you're right

47:38

now I'm like yeah that's

47:40

I have no problem well

47:42

I think it's like you

47:44

know for me personally like

47:47

I really do love a

47:49

natural aging uh... look

47:51

and and uh... you know for

47:53

men and women and and for

47:55

whoever like i did it's just

47:57

something i prefer you know everyone

48:00

has their preferences and shit you

48:02

can't can't fault people for having

48:04

their preferences. I'm not hating on

48:06

anybody. But, you know, you look

48:08

at like a Salma Hayek. Yeah,

48:11

what are you going to do?

48:13

And she just seems to be

48:15

getting hotter as she gets older.

48:17

I just don't understand how that's

48:19

possible. And you look at like

48:22

a Jennifer Aniston, Susan Sarandon. Oh

48:24

my God. Mike fell zone recently.

48:27

fell into a bit of

48:29

a deep attraction to Martha

48:32

Stewart. Yeah, I can see

48:34

that. She's definitely got that.

48:38

very like that quality to her.

48:40

Yeah, it's very much like, you

48:42

know, she could be, she could

48:44

take care of me. She'll take

48:46

you under, yeah. Yeah, like she

48:48

would like, and she'd also take

48:50

control and she knows what she

48:52

wants. And there's something so, you

48:54

know, attractive. Like, she's got like,

48:56

yeah, she's a tough cookie. Yeah.

48:58

and she's friends with Snoop Dog

49:00

and so she's cool you can

49:02

tell she's cool and she's she

49:04

can hang and there's something so

49:07

cool about that that like as

49:09

they age they get cooler they

49:11

get hotter yeah and you know

49:13

not necessarily like she isn't like

49:15

you know this like sexy she's

49:17

in presenting as like this sex

49:19

symbol this sexy person but the

49:21

but the personality and the way

49:23

that they present themselves is sexy

49:25

it's like BDE What's that? Big

49:27

D energy? Oh my God! Remember

49:29

that? Yes. What could it be?

49:31

Big Cougar energy? I'm glad people

49:33

aren't saying big dick energy all

49:35

the time. I got, that was

49:37

one of those that got kind

49:39

of old, kind of quick. Kind

49:41

of like a chill guy meme.

49:43

I know. Well, we need, the

49:45

thing is is like, you know,

49:47

this whole like obsession with the

49:49

size of the penis and like,

49:51

you know, and the, and penis

49:53

is being like this, you know,

49:55

you know, attached to your masculinity

49:57

masculinity, I

49:59

disagree. agree. I think it's helpful.

50:01

I think it's really helpful. Okay,

50:04

I have a question about Europe

50:06

really quick. Yeah, please. I am

50:08

now an expert, so you can

50:10

ask me anything. Oh my God.

50:12

Traveler doesn't make me better than

50:14

other people. It doesn't make me

50:16

better than other people. It doesn't

50:18

make me better than other people.

50:20

No, it doesn't make you better

50:22

than other people. But it makes

50:25

you. Better than a

50:27

lot of people. A lot

50:29

of people. By the way,

50:31

today is Philip DeFranco's birthday.

50:33

Oh, dang it. I know.

50:35

Did you say, did you

50:37

send him a happy birthday?

50:39

Oh. It's okay. I called

50:41

him. Let's get him on

50:43

the show right now. Let's

50:45

call him right now. What

50:47

an insane thing to do.

50:49

I just, you're on the

50:51

valley cast. Hey man. I

50:53

think he'd hate that. I

50:55

think he'd hate that. I

50:57

think he would very much.

50:59

I think he'd hate it

51:01

so much. I would hate

51:03

that. I would hate us

51:05

for that too. Anyway, so

51:07

my question about Europe is,

51:09

you know, I'm a consumer.

51:11

And I consume man because

51:13

I am the I am

51:15

part of the the guinea

51:18

pig brainwashed 80s. kid, you

51:20

know, timeline where they were

51:22

just testing out, like, how

51:24

do we brainwash the fuck

51:26

out of these people so

51:28

that they are consumers for

51:30

life? Yeah, and they nailed

51:32

it. They fucking nailed it,

51:34

dude. I fucking love McDonald's

51:36

and I fucking love... You

51:38

know like I love all

51:40

this shit of Disney I

51:42

love all these brands look

51:44

at these fucking toys and

51:46

shit I have in the

51:48

background and like I am

51:50

they Really fucking did they

51:52

make consumers for life and

51:54

not only do they make

51:56

consumers for life brainwashed our

51:58

generation so well that we've

52:00

also created new consumers. We

52:02

are spawning new consumers for

52:04

life. Because they released the

52:06

new Ghostbusters movie. And if

52:08

I've got three kids, I'm

52:10

gonna take those kids to

52:12

see that. And then I'm

52:14

gonna be like, I fucking

52:16

love this shit. And don't

52:18

you love being at a

52:20

certain age and being like,

52:22

my dad love that shit.

52:25

You know, my dad loves

52:27

that shit. It's just, you

52:29

know, it's perfect. They just planted the

52:31

perfect little seeds in us. And so

52:33

I'm just this fucking, like, I can't

52:35

help it. If I wanted to disconnect

52:37

from consumerism, it would take years of

52:40

really hard work and a lot of

52:42

money to therapists. I think that also

52:44

explains a lot of what we were

52:46

talking about earlier with the face stuff.

52:49

Oh, interesting. These people were born and

52:51

raised into an environment that consumerism told

52:53

them that you just need a little

52:55

bit more here, a little bit more

52:57

there, you take this in, you're gonna

52:59

be fine. You're right. And we see

53:01

how glorious the lifestyles of these wealthy

53:03

individuals are, and we want it so

53:05

bad. And we see how easy it

53:07

is to maybe become a famous person

53:09

these days, or how easy it was,

53:11

how much easier it was. and you

53:13

grow up with these people in your

53:15

face and they're telling you this is

53:17

the only way you're gonna get invited

53:19

to these cool parties this is the

53:21

only way you're gonna get these jobs

53:23

as if you're pretty and you have

53:25

beautiful bright white teeth and perfect complexion

53:28

And you're right, man. It's a different

53:30

kind of brainwashing and consumerism. Yeah. So

53:32

very interesting. I can't wait to see

53:34

the documentary about it or if there's

53:36

already are. Oh, wonderful. Wonderful. But anyway,

53:38

my question is, as a consumer, did

53:40

you try any fast food places while

53:42

you were in Europe? Was there a

53:44

curiosity and did you want to try

53:46

these things? Steve, I can't believe it's

53:48

this late in the chat and we're

53:50

just now bringing this. was like the

53:52

main thing besides the Freud Museum that

53:54

I wanted to do. I love it.

53:56

I love it. That would be my

53:58

number one priority. I'd be like, I

54:00

want some fucking German McDonald's. McDonald's. I

54:02

want to know what the f I

54:04

want to roll out with cheese. Yep.

54:06

So I did one in earlier this

54:08

year at at Belfast and Belfast McDonald's

54:10

was really good. Did you have breakfast

54:12

lunch and dinner in these places or

54:14

did you okay okay so but you

54:16

saw the options available the quality of

54:18

the food in McDonald's was better in

54:20

Belfast for sure than we have I

54:22

mean like hearing this genuinely tasted so

54:24

much still McDonald's but like You know,

54:26

sometimes you go to McDonald's here and

54:28

it's like, you don't know what you're

54:30

going to get. And sometimes it's like

54:32

every once in a while, it's popping

54:34

off. And then most of the time,

54:36

it's like, oh, this is terrible. But

54:38

yeah, the bread will be a little

54:40

stale or dummy or whatever. The bread

54:42

was so much better. The meat was

54:44

so much better. The meat was so

54:46

much better. The meat was so much

54:48

better. I didn't. I think it's super

54:50

max. It's like kind of a, it's

54:52

a chain that's like McDonald's, but different.

54:54

And they have like the equivalent, but

54:57

it had like barbecue sauce on it.

54:59

It was pretty good. Oh. Well, it

55:01

wasn't McDonald's. And then we went to

55:03

London. I ordered McDonald's there, not good,

55:05

no better than ours. Okay. I heard

55:07

London's got, London gets a lot of

55:09

ship for their food in general. Yeah,

55:11

they did. I thought their food was

55:13

pretty good. So then I. went to

55:15

we were in Vienna and I was

55:17

like we're right down the street from

55:19

a McDonald's and so I'm gonna find

55:21

it for you I did a short

55:23

video where I test out the food

55:25

oh my god do you want to

55:27

send it to me and I'll edit

55:29

it into the episode or do you

55:31

want to just show a little bit

55:33

of it it's pretty like I intentionally

55:35

was like I'm gonna this is gonna

55:37

be really boring okay just give me

55:39

like a like a 30 second

55:41

I can throw it

55:43

in or something

55:45

or like, you know,

55:47

whatever you're gonna

55:49

show me send me

55:51

that bit of

55:53

it show I'm gonna

55:55

show you a little

55:57

bit of this

55:59

and first of all

56:01

I'm gonna show you a little bit

56:03

picture of me first

56:05

for my is a picture

56:07

of me Oh my look

56:09

at you all

56:11

bundled up at you all

56:13

waiting for it and

56:15

did the like

56:17

so quick, right? So

56:19

so, so, uh, all right, right,

56:21

so here we

56:24

go go. To

56:30

my travel vlog Elliot here,

56:32

and as you all know,

56:34

I am in Vienna, Australia

56:39

Oh, this is great. This is

56:41

is great. This is

56:43

exactly the content

56:45

I want. It's nice

56:47

And it's nice. Are you in your

56:49

Are you in

56:51

your hotel here or

56:53

where are you hotel.

56:55

okay? would never be able to

56:57

do would never be

56:59

able to do

57:02

this in public It wasn't

57:04

open. So I got super Mac and

57:06

that was really good to different.

57:08

so that's super Mac

57:10

right there. This

57:12

is No, this is talking

57:14

about it. Okay, okay

57:16

was talking about. Oh, you were just

57:18

talking about it. Okay, okay. Friesberg, so

57:20

which would you like great with

57:22

first? Oh, were excellent cheese

57:24

burger. Okay, great. so it's

57:26

just the oil

57:28

or something. I think

57:30

it is it's So

57:32

the beef oil or something?

57:34

I think it is. It's the, the,

57:36

whatever, the it warm? it,

57:38

was it warm? Yeah. Oh

57:40

Dude send me that

57:42

little that little out

57:44

a little clip of

57:46

that and I'll

57:48

add it in there

57:50

chop out a Yeah, it

57:52

was so jealous.

57:54

Did you try so

57:56

you didn't really

57:58

venture dude. there anything

58:00

interesting on the menu

58:02

or you were

58:04

like Did you try? So you

58:06

Like was there a

58:08

sausage thing or

58:10

something or like oh,

58:13

I did that

58:15

in on the think it

58:17

was in where you were

58:19

had oh, I don't want to

58:21

do it. there you

58:23

go. there a sausage one.

58:25

I just went for

58:27

a tried and

58:29

true like? Oh, I did. good too,

58:31

yeah. Go to, but we did also

58:33

go into a McAfee, which they had

58:35

a separate one attached to the McDonald's,

58:37

and I was like, oh, I want

58:39

to know what these desserts are like,

58:41

because it was like really beautiful little

58:43

desserts, and they weren't that great. But

58:45

it was still, you know, pretty, pretty

58:47

fun. tasted like mass produced stuff regardless

58:49

of where you were. It wasn't bad,

58:51

definitely like not like a Vienna dessert.

58:53

But yeah, the the fries dude like

58:55

when we get fries, you don't have

58:57

that grease stain on the bad. No,

58:59

you don't. And this was like full

59:01

on trying to blink on what they

59:03

cook it in. They used to do

59:05

it here and then it's like beef

59:07

like beef fat or something like that.

59:09

Yeah, or like probably lard, they probably

59:11

use lard. Yeah, I think there's a

59:13

word, but I don't know what it

59:15

is, but yeah, way better the bread,

59:17

like you could actually taste the bread

59:19

instead like a soup. Yeah, because the

59:22

bread is just like, it just feels

59:24

like a delivery method at this point

59:26

for the ingredients. The speed at which

59:28

they gave it to me and the

59:30

politeness and the care of the assembly

59:32

of the burger was really crazy. Like

59:34

it was not like a commercial pretty,

59:36

but like way better than the ones

59:38

you get here. Like the slapped on

59:40

shit from the college students that are

59:42

just like I got grinded it. Yeah,

59:44

or like the buns like way over

59:46

here and the cheese and the cheese

59:48

is stuck to the wrapper and then

59:50

you got like this. Yeah. Bad news.

59:52

That's that's worthy of calling corporate and

59:54

having that particular location shut down. Absolutely.

59:56

Uh, dude, that's awesome. I'm glad we

59:58

got to take a little trip on

1:00:00

bringing it up. We got to join

1:00:02

you on your, yeah, I mean, that's,

1:00:04

you know, again, as a consumer, these

1:00:06

are the things that I'm more concerned

1:00:08

about than any of the, you know,

1:00:10

the nice things you did in museums

1:00:12

and, you know, or yeah, no, I

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very much feel the same way because

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I do love McDonald's and, uh, it

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is, I just give an idea that

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I don't, yeah. Yeah, you, you, yeah,

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we have to give up, we have

1:00:24

to give up on abandoning, trying to

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abandon these things that are literally programmed

1:00:28

into our DNA at this point. What

1:00:30

are we gonna do? I'm never gonna

1:00:33

understand that the burger is a cow.

1:00:35

I'm not, because I learned, I ate

1:00:37

the burger before I learned the word

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cow. dude and we like we were

1:00:41

we were even like brainwashed with shit

1:00:43

like the cow is happy to be

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eaten by like by us you know

1:00:47

it's talking to us it's like well

1:00:49

i don't mind i love McDonald's eat

1:00:51

me and it's like okay buddy was

1:00:53

that what did they do that was

1:00:55

that a when they made the cow

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Well, think about it, think about how

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like, you know, cartoon cows were like

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a thing, like, and how it was

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like, none of them were expressing their

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dis-disapproval of what happens to them. Yeah,

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I know. We, it's hopeless. We need

1:01:09

to see. It's like, yeah, it's like

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they want us to be like, food,

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food is our friends, you know, cows

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are friends, not food. But it's like,

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but the cow that we, I'm like,

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that's food. Yeah, the cow we befriended

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was like accepting of its food life.

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It's life that it was meant to

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be food, you know? Yeah, it wanted

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this. Yeah, just like we've accepted that

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our lives are meant, we are meant

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to be consumers. We are meant to

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be consumers. And it's not cognitive disson

1:01:35

if I just don't think about it.

1:01:37

Exactly. Exactly. Or talk about it. So

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happy birthday to Philip DeFranco. Happy birthday,

1:01:41

Phil. And so glad you're back, Elliot.

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And happy birthday to Heather, Joe's. Yeah.

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I think they're having fun. That's why

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Joe is out today, folks. He's doing

1:01:50

more birthday stuff. And you know, it

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was my girl. birthday this past

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week on week and you know

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it's just birthdays everywhere. Oh you

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know it's just

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birthdays everywhere. did you you

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seen I have not seen it

1:02:04

yet did you like

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it? seeing not seen

1:02:08

it yet saying? I've

1:02:10

you seeing what people

1:02:12

are saying? old heard

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it's really good like

1:02:16

impossible see it. Yeah we get

1:02:18

like impossible to see it. Yeah

1:02:20

we couldn't get tickets like for anything.

1:02:22

no was like I I no any to

1:02:24

have any seats available. But I've I've

1:02:26

been seeing people that normally post like movies

1:02:28

and stuff posting stuff posting these like well thought out

1:02:30

like Like explanations of how it's like a

1:02:33

spectacle them it made them feel things

1:02:35

they haven't felt they've they've never seen

1:02:37

a movie like this and it's

1:02:39

just like universally being accepted as this

1:02:41

like this like of like like movie savior you know

1:02:43

know it's just like good fucking movie

1:02:45

and I'm just so excited to see

1:02:47

it. see it now more excited. i watched

1:02:49

watched a movie on a plane called

1:02:51

night Night the the Devil. oh i i still

1:02:53

still haven't seen that yet. What did

1:02:55

you think of that? I think

1:02:57

you should watch it. I you should watch it

1:02:59

i know i know i i being told that

1:03:01

I need to see it and I

1:03:03

like that guy that guy that guy the

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star of that movie movie yeah Yeah, all right. Yeah,

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highly right. right, recommend. All right so much.

1:03:09

you so much. It's been fun Thank you

1:03:11

for for me. been very fun. been

1:03:13

I'm glad you're back you're for holding I

1:03:15

can't wait to get to yeah Oh, yeah, you do

1:03:17

it all the time we do

1:03:19

it for each other know you know, when you

1:03:21

need it. were there And when I you're there

1:03:23

there. you need and I, and, and, uh, uh, uh, uh,

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uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

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uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

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uh,