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watch. The president's mixed message
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on America's economic outlook. Are you
0:45
expecting a recession this year? I
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hate to predict things like that.
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There is a period of
0:52
transition. Sends the stock
0:54
market into a doomed spiral
0:56
that has mega -loyalists pitting and
0:58
pointing fingers. Most of the Biden
1:00
policies are in place. There's going to be a little
1:02
bit of pain with this. And there he is. That's
1:05
fine. But how patient will
1:07
Americans be after it starts hitting
1:09
their pocketbooks? Then,
1:11
Senator Alyssa Slotkin talks about
1:13
delivering some targeted blows to
1:15
President Trump during the Democratic
1:17
Party rebuttal to his joint
1:19
address to Congress. Do his
1:21
plans actually help Americans get
1:23
ahead? Not even close. And
1:25
if her fellow Democrats need
1:27
some serious work on
1:30
their defensive strategies? Plus,
1:33
singer -songwriter and artist Julian
1:35
Lennon is reminiscing about
1:37
life's fragile moments growing up
1:39
in the wake of
1:41
his iconic father, John Lennon's
1:43
tragic death. Here
1:46
come Hot Topics with
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Whoopies,
1:51
Sarah Haynes,
1:56
Joy Behan, Anna
2:00
Navarro, Sunny
2:04
Hauston
2:06
and Alyssa Sara Griffin.
2:09
Now, let's get
2:11
things started. Fears
2:47
are growing after you know who's
2:49
sit down on Fox News where
2:51
he shifted the timeline of his
2:53
fix the economy on day one
2:55
campaign promise. Take a look. Are
2:58
you expecting a recession this year. I
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hate to predict things like
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that. There is a period
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of transition because what we're doing is
3:09
very big. We're bringing wealth back to
3:11
America. That's a big thing.
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And there are always periods
3:15
of It takes a
3:17
little time. It takes
3:19
a little time. But I
3:21
don't, I think it should be great for us. I mean,
3:23
I think it should be great. Somebody
3:28
just said oi. And
3:31
it wasn't Brian, right? No,
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it wasn't Brian. So this
3:35
helped send the market into
3:37
free fall yesterday, which
3:39
some MAGA folks are blaming on
3:41
the Biden economy. Oh
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boy. So let me just remind
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you about the Biden economy,
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okay? The economy
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added 16 .6 million jobs
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and gross domestic product
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grew 12 .6. They
3:56
are the only administration in
3:59
history to have created
4:01
jobs every single month.
4:03
Yes. They achieved... But
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wait, there's more. They
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achieved the lowest average
4:13
unemployment in 50 years.
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Wealth adjusted for inflation
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rose a record 37 %
4:20
for the median American
4:22
household. And Americans filed
4:24
a record 21 million
4:26
new small business applications,
4:29
the most in any
4:31
presidential administration. you
4:33
came in to a
4:36
very robust, there
4:38
were issues, there's always gonna be issues,
4:40
but you can't blame all what's
4:42
happening on him. So how long
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do you think people are gonna, and not
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just people, but even Republicans,
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what do you think?
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Well, I didn't mean
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it like that. I
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didn't want to not include
4:59
Republicans because we're starting to hear
5:01
Republicans say, wait, what is
5:03
going on? So how long do
5:05
you think people are gonna
5:07
put Of the 11 recessions in
5:09
the modern era, 10 have
5:11
begun under Republican presidents. The
5:14
economies are always robust under Democrats, and
5:16
then they have a surplus, and then
5:18
this is a fact. Then the Republicans
5:20
come in and we have a deficit,
5:22
which by the way, there's a high
5:24
interest rate on deficit. which is why
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that is a dangerous thing to do
5:28
for the economy. So what
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happens to people? Why do
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they not understand the history
5:34
of the economy of this
5:36
country under Democrats and Republicans?
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not entirely... not entirely true. You
5:41
can have your turn one
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second. I think that the Republicans
5:45
fool people about wokeism and
5:47
transgenders, and they make up all
5:49
of these, what they call
5:51
canards, to distract them from their
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pocketbook. As soon as they
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stop getting their social security checks
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in this country, you're gonna
5:59
see some action. That's
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not entirely true because the first Trump economy
6:04
was incredibly strong until the pandemic hit,
6:06
and I don't think it is fair. Every
6:08
nation on Earth, their economy, in the
6:10
tank, we had record stock market gains low
6:12
with at 11 -10 heavy. Okay,
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but this is the point I'm
6:16
making is, when Trump was re -elected,
6:18
people vote for him on the economy
6:21
and lowering the cost of living.
6:23
The Dow Jones was at 1500 points
6:25
right after election day. Not
6:27
anymore. All the market
6:29
gains that he got after election day
6:31
have now plummeted since he's actually been
6:33
in office and governing. In the first
6:35
Trump agenda, he was clear, he leaned
6:38
into traditional Republican ideas of how to
6:40
lower costs and build the economy. Tax
6:42
cuts, energy policy, a deregulatory agenda. This
6:44
time he's introduced tariffs in a much
6:46
more sweeping way and the market is
6:48
reacting accordingly. When you tell businesses you
6:50
cannot plan because today there's tariffs, tomorrow
6:53
there's not, today this is gonna cost
6:55
us from Canada and It's like a
6:57
hokey hokey. You put the tariffs in,
6:59
you put the tariffs out, you put
7:01
the tariffs in, and you shake them
7:03
all about. But just to finish real
7:05
quick on your question, I do think
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Republicans are gonna, to give him a
7:10
pretty long leash to try to rebuild
7:12
the economy the way that he says
7:14
he's going to. But come midterms, if
7:16
you're still seeing high unemployment, if the
7:18
market's in the take, don't look at
7:20
your 401k today, it's devastating. In two
7:23
years, could really be on the toilet
7:25
right. I have a question though, because
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I thought that when Trump left office,
7:29
we had one of our highest deficits
7:31
in history. Deficit, yes. That's
7:33
true, right? But we were in
7:35
a global pandemic. And
7:37
we did the PPP program where we
7:40
basically paid people so that they could
7:42
pay their bills and keep the businesses. Well,
7:46
scientists say that, you know,
7:48
many more people's lives could
7:50
have been saved had the
7:52
Trump administration handled the pandemic
7:55
better. So he has to
7:57
take responsibility for that. But
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now job numbers are
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down. US
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employers cut more jobs,
8:06
172 ,000 jobs last month
8:08
than any February since
8:10
2009. during the global financial
8:12
happen to all those people who are out
8:14
of work? And that's just
8:17
in television. They're gonna lose their
8:19
homes, they're gonna lose everything. Stocks
8:21
are down, the recession risk, he's
8:23
saying that there may, maybe not,
8:25
he doesn't want to say anything.
8:27
Well, the people that do study
8:29
that say that the recession risk
8:31
is now about 40%. Yeah, about
8:33
40%. So, it's just fascinating to
8:35
me that, more people
8:37
aren't talking about the fact that
8:39
he is tanking the economy that
8:41
he got. And we are sorry.
8:44
In addition to the tariffs, which is
8:46
key here, there's also a problem with
8:48
consumer confidence. So Rebecca Jarvis, who's our
8:50
chief business and economics correspondent, was talking
8:52
about how 70 % of economy. the economy's
8:54
growth is based on consumer confidence. You're
8:56
watching as not only the tariffs are
8:58
kind of put in and put out
9:00
hokey pokey style and we don't know
9:02
and those same business owners are on
9:04
the phone with suppliers saying, I don't
9:07
know if we order now or if
9:09
we don't order, they can't make decisions.
9:11
You've got everyone sitting here watching day to
9:13
day as they cut all these federal
9:15
agencies and they don't know if they're coming
9:17
back, if they're not coming back, Elon
9:19
just said they're taking away entitlements, people that
9:21
have fixed incomes and are living off
9:24
those. He can't, but what
9:26
I'm saying is if they're gonna
9:28
cut those, people are holding on
9:30
to what they have and stuffing
9:32
it in mattresses right now. So
9:34
that is also a massive part
9:36
is what he calls flooding the
9:38
zone. This chaos is creating such
9:40
kind of like fear and not
9:42
knowing what's happening. And that stuff
9:44
is also contributing to why we're
9:46
seeing this. And it's also contributing
9:49
to why people are in a
9:51
panic mode. and it's translating to
9:53
their children because they're cutting programs
9:55
where we give money to people
9:57
to feed children in the schools. We
10:00
give money to farmers. Food
10:02
is rotting. you know, in Nebraska.
10:04
I mean, there's a lot
10:06
going on here. So it seems
10:08
to me that this, the
10:10
hokey pokeyism of all of this
10:13
entire administration is going to
10:15
start to sooner, I think, than
10:17
we would normally think about
10:19
for the Republicans. I think it's
10:21
gonna start bothering them because
10:24
I think the Republicans are saying,
10:26
wait, we could have done
10:28
X, Y, and Z ages ago
10:30
and we wouldn't be. You
10:33
mean the voters or the politicians? Both.
10:35
I think that, yeah, the politicians are gonna
10:37
take a while, but I think it's beginning
10:39
because you're starting to hear them say, well,
10:41
you know, we're voting on this bill that
10:44
if had we done this, a couple of, you
10:46
like to play that music, don't you? We have a
10:48
lot of guests today, I just have to keep going. We
10:50
have two guests. I know, but I
10:52
was just gonna put a period on it. a period on
10:54
it? Well, too late now. You can blow music, you
10:56
can keep talking. We'll be right back. You put a time
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in America right now and
14:18
some of them even show up
14:20
in the finale of the
14:22
Netflix dating show, Love is Blind.
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Take a look. I love you so
14:28
much. But
14:31
I've always wanted a partner
14:33
to be on the same
14:35
wavelength. And
14:38
so today I can't. I
14:45
asked him about, like, Black Lives Matter, and
14:47
I'm no expert. But like, when I asked
14:49
him about it, he was like, I guess
14:51
I've never really thought too much about it.
14:53
That affected me. I watched a sermon online.
14:56
From his church? About, yeah,
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sexual identity. OK. And
15:00
it was traditional. I
15:02
told that to Ben. And
15:05
his thoughts on it. It doesn't really
15:07
have much to say about it. So
15:11
what do you
15:13
think? So, she
15:15
goes on longer in this, and it sounds
15:17
like her frustration is, it's somewhat ideological. I
15:19
think that you have to have the same
15:21
values in a marriage, but it honestly seems
15:23
more like he just lacks intellectual curiosity, and
15:25
that bothers her. Like that the answer just
15:27
keeps being, oh, I didn't really think about
15:29
it. Not even necessarily what his position is
15:32
that he didn't care enough to have one,
15:34
and I don't disagree with her it. exactly
15:36
right, because he said to her, kind
15:38
of ignorant towards that stuff. Like
15:41
I didn't vote in the last election. He
15:43
says, like I didn't vote in the last election.
15:45
As long as I don't know, it's not
15:47
gonna, you know, do much. You
15:49
can't marry somebody like that. You
15:52
need somebody informed or else you might as
15:54
well marry Marjorie Taylor with rain. Yeah, right.
15:57
But then why wait? Why
15:59
do it in front of don't know
16:02
why she just found that out. I think
16:04
what bothered me when I saw the
16:06
clip, it's not that he, you
16:08
know, there's a lot of people who, politics
16:10
is not their thing, it's just not their
16:12
thing. But to wait until the
16:14
wedding day, - they're forced to do it that
16:16
way, they have to do it, it's the
16:18
setup of this show. But I don't understand.
16:21
It felt a little cruel. It did feel
16:23
cruel. Yeah, I that. Because she could have
16:25
said, no, I'm not gonna marry you, and
16:27
here's why, and they had to fight there,
16:29
but they didn't, so publicly, I just, I
16:31
just thought it was, you know, I don't
16:33
know about this, I don't know why he
16:35
millions of uninformed women, he'll be calling him
16:38
up, he's very cute. I'm
16:40
not worried about him. No, I'm
16:42
not worried about him, but I don't
16:44
like, I don't like seeing folks get
16:46
embarrassed like that. It was humiliating.
16:48
It was humiliating. wasn't to do a
16:50
show like that, you're asking for trouble.
16:52
Apparently, because they meet and then they
16:54
go into a cubicle or something and
16:56
then they decide to get married. And
16:58
they haven't seen each other. And they've
17:00
never seen each other. But don't they
17:02
talk? They talk. So
17:05
she should have found out that he
17:07
doesn't vote, that he doesn't know any
17:09
current events, that he doesn't know anything.
17:12
But I guess if they... have 20 minutes before
17:14
they get to meet, and then they decide
17:16
to get married in 20 minutes, and then they'll
17:18
do it, and I guess that it didn't
17:20
come up. She should've, she needed
17:22
to bring that up right away. He's blind to
17:24
the news, and the show is called Love is
17:27
Blind. And it turns out to hasn't been in
17:29
a pod in his defense. He's in a pod.
17:31
Well, I need my own pod. Some of
17:33
it happened before the pod. We'll be right back. First
17:52
term Michigan Senator, Alyssa Slotkin,
17:54
entered the national spotlight last week
17:56
when she delivered the Democratic
17:58
Party's rebuttal to, you know, who's
18:00
joint address to Congress, which
18:02
resonated with a lot of Americans.
18:04
Take a look. We just
18:06
went through another fraught election season.
18:09
Americans made it clear that prices are too
18:11
high and that the government needs to
18:13
be more responsive to their needs. America
18:16
wants change, but there's
18:18
a responsible way to make change and
18:20
a reckless way. And we can make
18:22
that change without forgetting who we are
18:24
as a country. Don't tune out. It's
18:27
easy to be exhausted, but America
18:29
needs you now more than ever.
18:31
Hold your elected officials, including me,
18:33
accountable, organize. Pick
18:35
just one issue you're passionate about and
18:37
engage. You
18:57
have fans in the audience. I
18:59
mean, thank you. I love the crowd.
19:02
Welcome to the show. Thank you. Thanks for having me, everybody.
19:05
So a little bird told me, first of
19:07
all, you get very high mocks for
19:09
your speech. You saw the response right now.
19:11
Yeah. And we were cheering you on,
19:13
wasn't it? And I heard a little bird
19:15
told me that before you gave it,
19:18
Senator Schumer, called you in, like
19:20
the principal's office. Were you scared?
19:22
What happened? So it was true that
19:24
Senator Schumer asked for a private
19:26
meeting with me and I said to
19:28
myself like... in trouble again? Like
19:30
how is this possible? I've been a
19:32
senator for six weeks. So
19:35
I went in and I was expecting
19:37
to be in trouble and I was
19:39
not in trouble. He gave me this
19:41
honor. The speech is known as kind
19:43
of a cursed speech, right? Like I was just trying
19:45
to not be a Saturday Night Live skit. And
19:48
so we worked on it. We decamped to
19:50
my family farm in Michigan with a couple
19:52
of friends and advisors and we just drilled
19:54
down and wrote it. Did he give you
19:56
some tips about what to say? to
19:59
his credit said like, we trust you and
20:01
go and do it. And I said, you
20:03
know, I need to be able to write
20:05
the speech that speaks like, I'm from Michigan,
20:07
right? So if I think if it works
20:09
for Michigan, it's gonna work for the country.
20:11
And so I need to be able to
20:13
do it the way I would do it.
20:15
And so he did not editorialize, he did
20:17
not tell me what to say. And that
20:19
was why I appreciate that. Now, Senator, you
20:21
are the youngest Democratic woman elected to the
20:23
Senate and in a state that President Trump
20:26
won. That's the tricky part. you
20:28
were in office, how are you balancing
20:30
democratic priorities while kind of appealing to
20:32
the swing voters of Michigan and what
20:34
can other Democrats learn from you? Well,
20:36
I think, you know, for me, it's
20:39
about. trying to find those places where
20:41
we can still work together. If you're
20:43
from Michigan, right? We grew up, my
20:45
dad, lifelong Republican, my mom, lifelong Democrat,
20:47
it was no big deal. We were
20:49
more likely to fight Michigan versus Michigan
20:51
State and Democrat, Republican when many of
20:54
us were growing up. So you're constantly
20:56
trying to find places where you can
20:58
work together, but you're being vigilant about
21:00
protecting your values. And I think that's
21:02
the way I walk in every day
21:04
to the job. I also think Democrats
21:06
need to be in
21:08
what we prioritize. I mean, we can't be
21:11
for everything, because then we're for nothing. And
21:13
for me, I think what we need
21:15
to hear in this last election is people
21:17
aren't happy with the status quo. They
21:19
want change, right? They want something different. They
21:21
got it. Yeah, they got it. But
21:23
there's a reasonable way. And there's
21:25
a, you know, a reckless way. And I
21:28
really believe that. So like I said, you
21:30
want to make change. Like I was in
21:32
the Pentagon, I was at the CIA, we
21:34
can cut those places. I saw the
21:36
fat myself. But let's just
21:38
do it so that we're not making
21:40
Americans less safe. But what's the top
21:42
of your priority list? For me, the
21:44
economy. think most Americans
21:46
want economic security. They wanna be safe
21:49
in their own homes. And they wanna
21:51
know that the country we believe in,
21:53
our democracy, is gonna be there for
21:55
our kids. So President Clinton was right.
21:57
It's the economy's safe. I mean, if
21:59
people can't afford the summer camp for
22:02
their kids or to go on a
22:04
vacation, they are less generous
22:06
with their neighbors, right? They
22:08
feel like desperate. And so
22:10
for me, that very American, very solid
22:12
American dream is still the thing that
22:14
we should all be working on. Well,
22:16
Senator, I thought you gave an excellent
22:18
rebuttal, which, as you said, is kind
22:20
of cursed, and it was one of
22:22
the better ones I remember in recent
22:25
history. But there were also some sort
22:27
of antics and protests on the House
22:29
floor that night from the Democrats, which
22:31
your colleague, Senator John Fetterman, called a
22:33
sad cavalcade of self -owns and unhinged petulants.
22:35
It only makes Trump look more presidential
22:37
and restrained. We're becoming the metaphorical car
22:39
alarms that nobody pays attention to, and
22:41
it may not be a winning message.
22:43
Do you agree or disagree with Senator?
22:45
So, you know, I think what you
22:47
saw on the House floor was like,
22:49
people feel... like passionate, like that I
22:52
identified with the frustration that my colleagues
22:54
had, right? Al Green, you know, standing
22:56
up and like that is, that comes
22:58
from a real place. I think I
23:00
just prefer myself to do it in
23:02
a different way. And I think you
23:04
gotta be for something. You can't just
23:06
be against - But not the cards,
23:08
just the cards. I just, I
23:10
think that, look, I don't think it's a
23:12
secret to anyone that Trump has Democrats on
23:14
their heels. I don't think we need to
23:17
like pretend that's not happening, you know, admitting
23:19
you have a pro - the first step
23:21
to recovery. Yeah. And I think that the, you
23:24
know, people are trying different
23:26
things. And it doesn't mean I
23:28
love every idea, but I identify with
23:30
that need to try and do something.
23:32
Yeah. Well, Senator. Karine
23:37
Jean -Pierre was here on our show and
23:39
she said, quote, we have to have
23:41
a sense of urgency as we move forward
23:44
and we cannot do it the way
23:46
we have in the past. This
23:48
is not normal, it's a five
23:50
alarm fire. Statistics
23:52
show that Democrats want an opposition
23:54
party, not a business as
23:56
usual party, right? 10
23:58
of your colleagues voted to censure
24:00
Al Green, who met the
24:02
moment in my view, by standing
24:05
up for his constituents who depend
24:07
on Medicaid and Medicare. Why
24:09
are you and other Democrats, some
24:12
people say you and other Democrats are
24:14
playing it safe and quite frankly not
24:16
meeting the moment, playing by the rules
24:18
when it's clear that the Republicans have
24:20
thrown out the rule book. Yeah, I
24:22
think, look, I mean, to me again,
24:24
representing a state where people voted for
24:27
Trump and voted for me. I
24:29
have responsibility to represent my entire
24:31
state. But I don't think there's anyone
24:33
who feels like what's going on
24:35
right now is normal, even if you
24:37
voted for Trump. I think there's
24:39
a feeling in the country, and I
24:41
often say this, we're about to
24:44
turn 250 years old. We're still pretty
24:46
young for a country. These are
24:48
our angry teenage years. We are
24:50
going through this push and pull where we're
24:52
happy, we're sad, we want this, we want that.
24:54
And what do you do when you have
24:56
a teenager who's threatening themselves
24:58
and others, you just try to get
25:00
them through this period alive so
25:02
that their brain can fully form and
25:04
you can come back to kind
25:06
of what a country talking about Trump?
25:08
No, I'm talking about our country.
25:10
We're pendulum swinging. We're pendulum swinging. And
25:12
so for me, I don't think
25:14
there's a single American who feels like
25:16
this is normal and therefore the
25:18
response it's a five alarm fire? I
25:20
think what the president is doing
25:22
to our economy, you all just talked
25:24
about it this morning. I mean,
25:26
like, sorry, people may not know the
25:28
federal budget. know their own home
25:30
budget, and they know exactly how much
25:32
they're spending. So I think whether
25:34
it's the economy, whether it's our national
25:36
security, cutting people who keep us
25:38
safe, and then handing over places like
25:40
Ukraine to a guy like Putin,
25:43
or our democracy, threats to who we
25:45
are as a democracy, I
25:47
think that we are absolutely
25:49
in extraordinary times, and it requires
25:51
an extraordinary response. Yeah. Yeah.
25:53
Yeah. We
25:56
have more with Senator Alyssa Slake when
25:59
we come back. You're
26:14
gonna have to start doing steroids. Telling
26:16
his client to take steroids. I can
26:18
give you an injection right now. Well,
26:20
just wait until you see what happens
26:22
in this gym. Here we go. Here
26:24
we go. Don't take that hit. Seriously?
26:26
As a trainer, you can... Ridiculous. I'm
26:29
trying to get you on this. You okay? I
26:32
was getting angry. So
26:34
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We're we're back with Senator Alyssa
27:40
Slotkin. Senator, I wanna ask you
27:42
a question, because Michigan is mixed.
27:44
It's got all kinds of people
27:46
in it. And when we hear
27:49
that, you know, all
27:52
of the things that you were talking
27:54
about, what do you say to your
27:56
constituents who are afraid that they're going
27:59
to get picked up? as American citizens,
28:01
perhaps they're from Mexico, but they are
28:03
American citizens, or they're black folks, or
28:05
they're Asian folks, or they're green folks.
28:07
What do you say? Because one the
28:09
things that we get blamed for is
28:11
being for too many things, but one
28:13
of the things that we always have
28:16
to remember is that we are a
28:18
country that has chopped up so much
28:20
stuff that we have to beat in
28:22
order to take care of us. We
28:24
have to do that. So what do
28:26
you say to people who are really
28:28
afraid that their rights as
28:30
Americans are being threatened in ways
28:33
that we've never seen before. Yeah,
28:35
first of all, you don't retreat
28:37
and like hide. and just sit
28:39
on your phone and doom scroll
28:41
and talk about it, but not
28:43
do anything. Get involved
28:45
in one thing. You don't have to fix
28:47
everything, but one thing that you're really
28:50
passionate about, go deep on that one thing.
28:52
Be active on social media. We know
28:54
that Republicans are just kicking our butts on
28:56
social media. We need to have that
28:58
conversation for every age group, which includes a
29:00
lot of stuff on social media. And
29:02
then you gotta stand up for the values
29:04
that we know are American. values and
29:07
we see that to no one, right? There's
29:09
no one who gets the flag, who
29:11
gets to say they're more patriotic than the
29:13
other ones. I do what I do
29:15
every day because I believe this is the
29:17
best country in the world and we
29:19
need to stand up for it and think
29:21
about, I mean, just at this table,
29:24
the previous generations, when it got hard. had
29:26
said to themselves, you know what,
29:28
I'm just gonna shut myself in. I'm not
29:30
gonna work on women's rights, on civil rights,
29:32
on voting rights. None of us would be
29:34
here right now if previous generations had gotten
29:36
exhausted and just gone into their homes and
29:38
said, not my problem. So we cannot do
29:41
it for our kids and our green. We
29:43
will do it, I believe that. Me too.
29:45
Me too. So yesterday,
29:47
we saw the markets plunge over
29:49
Trump's trade wars on his,
29:51
as she says, the hokey pokey
29:53
that he's doing. Yes, that
29:55
was good. Thank you. But he
29:57
acknowledged there'd be some temporary
29:59
pain, not for him, for everybody
30:01
else. And he didn't
30:03
rule out a recession. So
30:06
do you think that's where we're heading? And
30:09
what does it mean for the average person
30:11
when we're in a recession? Yeah. Well, first of
30:13
all, I think we need to understand what's happening,
30:15
which is the president is looking in all
30:17
the couch cushions for about $6 trillion, so
30:19
that he can pass. of couches. Right, a
30:21
lot of couches, a of cushions. just asking
30:23
a lot. And he's looking for that so
30:25
that he can rewrite the tax code and
30:27
give a real big benefit to some of
30:30
the wealthiest in our country. And he's gonna
30:32
make you pay in every part of your
30:34
life. Prices for groceries, things going up. Has
30:36
the price of a home come down? No,
30:38
going up. And then
30:40
the thing that I want to pay attention to
30:42
is yesterday, they said the quiet
30:44
part out loud. Your Medicare and Social Security,
30:46
they call them entitlements. Those are things
30:49
you have worked for your entire They're your
30:51
money, it's your money. entire life. And
30:53
if they're... Looking in the couch cushions, that
30:55
Medicare and Social Security are some big,
30:57
big bills in those couch cushions, so I
30:59
think they're gonna make you pay, and
31:01
then they're gonna try and tell you it's
31:03
all gonna be all right. Just let
31:06
us get through that. blame it on Biden.
31:08
No, do They'll blame it on Biden.
31:10
Here's, you know what, you have to come
31:12
back. You have to come back, it's
31:14
not enough time. love to. Thanks to Senator
31:16
Alyssa Slotkin. We will be right back. Welcome
31:33
back. Julian Lennon is a
31:35
true Renaissance man. He's a
31:37
recording artist, a filmmaker, environmentalist,
31:39
activist, and gifted photographer whose
31:41
latest project, Life's Fragile Moments,
31:43
is included in his new
31:45
exhibit, Reminisce Right
31:47
Here in New York
31:49
City. Please welcome back
31:51
the fabulous and my
31:53
friend, Julian Lennon. I
32:13
kiss you all, but I know the makeup
32:15
rules. Listen,
32:17
I haven't seen you for a
32:19
while. You've been really busy doing
32:21
all the photography you just were
32:23
in Venice. How are
32:25
you, darling? Alive.
32:29
That's my answer to everything these
32:31
days. Yeah. You know, as long as
32:33
I'm alive and kicking, I'm good.
32:35
Well, most people know that you are
32:37
a talented Grammy Award winning musician.
32:39
I wish I was great. Nominated.
32:41
I'm nominated. Oh, well deserved. I'll take one.
32:43
If you can spare one, I'll take it. They
32:45
always say it's the same thing, and it's
32:47
just an honor to be nominated. For this, I
32:49
am thankful. Anyway, and you
32:51
also are the son of the great John
32:53
Lennon. We all know that from the
32:55
Beatles. Thank
32:58
you. One of my heroes, anyway. This
33:00
is cute. That's when I knew how to dress.
33:04
Maybe someone else dresses you. This
33:06
is true. But Julian, you're also
33:08
apparently a talented photographer. So tell
33:10
us about that part of your
33:12
life. In
33:15
summary.
33:19
I have a foundation called the
33:21
White Feather Foundation and I
33:23
used to go on these trips
33:25
before COVID, you know, to
33:27
South America, to Africa, Ethiopia and
33:29
Kenya and I just used
33:31
to take my camera along just
33:33
to catalog things because I
33:35
truly have the worst memory on
33:37
the planet that I know
33:39
of. And so I would take
33:41
pictures of all my escapades
33:43
and my journeys and all the
33:45
people that I met and
33:47
I just When I
33:49
got home I had so many that
33:51
I thought these would be great pictures
33:53
to share with people to tell the
33:55
story of people on the other side
33:57
of the world and so that we
33:59
can empathize with them a little more,
34:01
understand their lives a little more. and
34:05
try and, you know, in certain circumstances,
34:07
help them. Julianne, one of my favorite hats
34:09
that you wear is your books. Oh
34:11
yes, yes, yes. Touch the Earth is one
34:13
of our go -tos. Thank you, you. So
34:15
anyone that, you gotta go check these
34:17
books out. But you have this new exhibit,
34:19
we'll come back to this. Sure, sure,
34:21
sure. Right here in New York City called
34:23
Reminiscent. Yeah. And it captures, as you
34:25
said, the fragile beauty of our planet. Yes.
34:27
Now we're seeing some of the photos
34:29
behind us now. You use
34:31
your art as a form of
34:33
activism. Where did
34:35
this passion for protecting the
34:37
earth come from? Well,
34:40
you know, it's in the
34:42
blood a little bit. But I
34:44
think also as a teenager,
34:46
a little younger, I actually grew
34:48
up with my mother on
34:50
a farm in the middle of
34:52
nowhere. And so, you know,
34:54
there was nothing to do except
34:56
enjoy nature in every way,
34:58
shape, or form. And I, you
35:00
know, I truly fell in
35:02
love with nature. Because we are
35:04
part of it, you know,
35:06
and so Seeing
35:08
that destroyed and hurt and
35:10
how it affects everybody else
35:12
when things go wrong is
35:14
worth protecting. For me, it's
35:17
not about shoving things down
35:19
people's throats, it's just presenting
35:21
situations as they are and
35:23
for you to make your
35:25
own mind up about this.
35:27
And if you do have
35:29
a heart and you have
35:32
empathy, then perhaps you'll do
35:34
something about it. This photography
35:36
book is just... we
35:38
all got copies of it and I looked through
35:40
it last night and it's gorgeous. The
35:43
exhibit includes selections from that book,
35:45
Life's Fragile Moments. And the cover
35:47
shot for the book, I believe
35:49
we have it right here, is
35:51
of Princess Charlene, yeah, Princess Charlene
35:53
on her wedding day to Albert
35:56
II, Prince of Monaco in 2011.
35:58
Tell us about the picture and it's
36:01
stunning, but why did you choose
36:03
this picture for the cover? I literally
36:05
got a phone call the night
36:07
before her civil wedding saying, from
36:10
a friend saying, Charlene
36:12
wants you to come and take photos
36:14
of her before the wedding. I said,
36:16
I'm not that kind of guy. I
36:18
don't do fashion shoot. You know, I'm
36:20
out in the wild. No, I'm
36:22
not a wedding photographer. But
36:24
so anyway, there was three security layers
36:26
to get in. I had just
36:29
had one camera with me and I
36:31
arrive at the hotel and they
36:33
take me to where she is. And
36:35
it's a small room, maybe 20
36:37
by 20 with the hairdresser's, the hairdresser's
36:39
assistants, the makeup, the makeup's assistant.
36:42
You know, there was about. anywhere between
36:44
10 and 20 people at any
36:46
given point in time. And
36:48
they sat me next to
36:50
her on a little poof. And
36:52
she was just glazed. Yeah. And
36:55
she just says, Jules,
36:59
I don't think I can do this. Yeah, that's
37:01
what her face is saying. And
37:03
I just went. Oh, I said,
37:05
what are you talking about? Because
37:07
you don't want to get married or
37:09
you don't want me to take photos.
37:13
Honestly, I just didn't know. And
37:15
she said, no, I don't. I'm
37:18
too aware. I don't think you can do the
37:20
photos. It's just I've got to try and focus.
37:22
And I said, listen, this
37:24
is a historic moment.
37:26
You're becoming a princess,
37:28
a princess. Please, please,
37:30
please just let me catalog it. I
37:33
don't know what I'm doing. I'm just going to do
37:35
the best job I can. I'll
37:37
take as many photos as
37:39
I can and try and
37:41
capture the moments. And the
37:44
weird thing was that vogue.com
37:46
got in touch and said,
37:48
we'd like a picture of
37:50
her smiling immediately, please. And
37:52
I went back home and I saw
37:54
all these pictures on the screen, and there
37:57
wasn't one of her smiling. And
37:59
I'm going, what am I going to do? What am I going
38:01
to do? And then I
38:03
found one, actually two. But
38:05
the other thing that she said
38:07
was, whatever you do, don't
38:09
have a photograph of me with a
38:11
glass of champagne or a cigarette.
38:14
And in the smiling, she had a...
38:16
Glass of champagne and a cigarette. Now
38:20
I'm not really a
38:22
Photoshop kinda guy, but
38:24
I managed to get
38:26
rid of the cigarette. Yeah,
38:29
yeah, yeah. As we mentioned,
38:31
your father was the late, great John
38:33
Lennon who tragically killed 45 years ago
38:35
and apparently new generations are discovering the
38:37
Beatles. I didn't know anyone ever needed
38:39
to rediscover them. But thanks in part
38:41
to incredible documentaries like Peter Jackson's, The
38:44
Beatles Get Back, Martin Scorsese. these Beatles
38:46
64, what does it feel like just
38:48
knowing that they still have such an
38:50
impact after all these years? Well,
38:52
I think what they
38:54
did musically, lyrically
38:57
and production -wise and everything.
38:59
There was nothing like
39:01
it. And they were
39:03
unique. They didn't stick to
39:06
a particular style or genre.
39:08
They kept pushing and pushing and
39:10
pushing. And that's
39:12
why there's such fascination with
39:14
them. And even still
39:16
today, people who are learning
39:18
to be singers and songwriters, just
39:21
look at how they did things as
39:23
a lesson in how to do something great.
39:25
Yeah. You know, and I
39:27
still reflect on that when I'm
39:29
writing too, but so that's why
39:31
I think they'll be around, excuse
39:33
me, a lot longer, for a
39:35
lot, lot longer, you know. And
39:38
I'm happy for that. Look, this is
39:40
the man that is Julian Lennon. Quite
39:42
fabulous. The new photography
39:44
book, Life's Fragile Moments, is out now
39:46
and you can buy the book
39:48
by scanning the QR code on our
39:50
screen. And we, of course, will
39:52
be right back. called
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