Encore Episode: Tuesday, March 11: Sen. Elissa Slotkin, Julian Lennon

Encore Episode: Tuesday, March 11: Sen. Elissa Slotkin, Julian Lennon

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Encore Episode: Tuesday, March 11: Sen. Elissa Slotkin, Julian Lennon

Encore Episode: Tuesday, March 11: Sen. Elissa Slotkin, Julian Lennon

Encore Episode: Tuesday, March 11: Sen. Elissa Slotkin, Julian Lennon

Encore Episode: Tuesday, March 11: Sen. Elissa Slotkin, Julian Lennon

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0:43

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0:45

expecting a recession this year? I

0:48

hate to predict things like that.

0:50

There is a period of

0:52

transition. Sends the stock

0:54

market into a doomed spiral

0:56

that has mega -loyalists pitting and

0:58

pointing fingers. Most of the Biden

1:00

policies are in place. There's going to be a little

1:02

bit of pain with this. And there he is. That's

1:05

fine. But how patient will

1:07

Americans be after it starts hitting

1:09

their pocketbooks? Then,

1:11

Senator Alyssa Slotkin talks about

1:13

delivering some targeted blows to

1:15

President Trump during the Democratic

1:17

Party rebuttal to his joint

1:19

address to Congress. Do his

1:21

plans actually help Americans get

1:23

ahead? Not even close. And

1:25

if her fellow Democrats need

1:27

some serious work on

1:30

their defensive strategies? Plus,

1:33

singer -songwriter and artist Julian

1:35

Lennon is reminiscing about

1:37

life's fragile moments growing up

1:39

in the wake of

1:41

his iconic father, John Lennon's

1:43

tragic death. Here

1:46

come Hot Topics with

1:48

Whoopies,

1:51

Sarah Haynes,

1:56

Joy Behan, Anna

2:00

Navarro, Sunny

2:04

Hauston

2:06

and Alyssa Sara Griffin.

2:09

Now, let's get

2:11

things started. Fears

2:47

are growing after you know who's

2:49

sit down on Fox News where

2:51

he shifted the timeline of his

2:53

fix the economy on day one

2:55

campaign promise. Take a look. Are

2:58

you expecting a recession this year. I

3:02

hate to predict things like

3:04

that. There is a period

3:06

of transition because what we're doing is

3:09

very big. We're bringing wealth back to

3:11

America. That's a big thing.

3:13

And there are always periods

3:15

of It takes a

3:17

little time. It takes

3:19

a little time. But I

3:21

don't, I think it should be great for us. I mean,

3:23

I think it should be great. Somebody

3:28

just said oi. And

3:31

it wasn't Brian, right? No,

3:33

it wasn't Brian. So this

3:35

helped send the market into

3:37

free fall yesterday, which

3:39

some MAGA folks are blaming on

3:41

the Biden economy. Oh

3:43

boy. So let me just remind

3:45

you about the Biden economy,

3:47

okay? The economy

3:50

added 16 .6 million jobs

3:52

and gross domestic product

3:54

grew 12 .6. They

3:56

are the only administration in

3:59

history to have created

4:01

jobs every single month.

4:03

Yes. They achieved... But

4:08

wait, there's more. They

4:10

achieved the lowest average

4:13

unemployment in 50 years.

4:15

Wealth adjusted for inflation

4:18

rose a record 37 %

4:20

for the median American

4:22

household. And Americans filed

4:24

a record 21 million

4:26

new small business applications,

4:29

the most in any

4:31

presidential administration. you

4:33

came in to a

4:36

very robust, there

4:38

were issues, there's always gonna be issues,

4:40

but you can't blame all what's

4:42

happening on him. So how long

4:44

do you think people are gonna, and not

4:46

just people, but even Republicans,

4:49

what do you think?

4:51

Well, I didn't mean

4:53

it like that. I

4:57

didn't want to not include

4:59

Republicans because we're starting to hear

5:01

Republicans say, wait, what is

5:03

going on? So how long do

5:05

you think people are gonna

5:07

put Of the 11 recessions in

5:09

the modern era, 10 have

5:11

begun under Republican presidents. The

5:14

economies are always robust under Democrats, and

5:16

then they have a surplus, and then

5:18

this is a fact. Then the Republicans

5:20

come in and we have a deficit,

5:22

which by the way, there's a high

5:24

interest rate on deficit. which is why

5:26

that is a dangerous thing to do

5:28

for the economy. So what

5:30

happens to people? Why do

5:32

they not understand the history

5:34

of the economy of this

5:36

country under Democrats and Republicans?

5:39

not entirely... not entirely true. You

5:41

can have your turn one

5:43

second. I think that the Republicans

5:45

fool people about wokeism and

5:47

transgenders, and they make up all

5:49

of these, what they call

5:51

canards, to distract them from their

5:53

pocketbook. As soon as they

5:55

stop getting their social security checks

5:57

in this country, you're gonna

5:59

see some action. That's

6:01

not entirely true because the first Trump economy

6:04

was incredibly strong until the pandemic hit,

6:06

and I don't think it is fair. Every

6:08

nation on Earth, their economy, in the

6:10

tank, we had record stock market gains low

6:12

with at 11 -10 heavy. Okay,

6:14

but this is the point I'm

6:16

making is, when Trump was re -elected,

6:18

people vote for him on the economy

6:21

and lowering the cost of living.

6:23

The Dow Jones was at 1500 points

6:25

right after election day. Not

6:27

anymore. All the market

6:29

gains that he got after election day

6:31

have now plummeted since he's actually been

6:33

in office and governing. In the first

6:35

Trump agenda, he was clear, he leaned

6:38

into traditional Republican ideas of how to

6:40

lower costs and build the economy. Tax

6:42

cuts, energy policy, a deregulatory agenda. This

6:44

time he's introduced tariffs in a much

6:46

more sweeping way and the market is

6:48

reacting accordingly. When you tell businesses you

6:50

cannot plan because today there's tariffs, tomorrow

6:53

there's not, today this is gonna cost

6:55

us from Canada and It's like a

6:57

hokey hokey. You put the tariffs in,

6:59

you put the tariffs out, you put

7:01

the tariffs in, and you shake them

7:03

all about. But just to finish real

7:05

quick on your question, I do think

7:08

Republicans are gonna, to give him a

7:10

pretty long leash to try to rebuild

7:12

the economy the way that he says

7:14

he's going to. But come midterms, if

7:16

you're still seeing high unemployment, if the

7:18

market's in the take, don't look at

7:20

your 401k today, it's devastating. In two

7:23

years, could really be on the toilet

7:25

right. I have a question though, because

7:27

I thought that when Trump left office,

7:29

we had one of our highest deficits

7:31

in history. Deficit, yes. That's

7:33

true, right? But we were in

7:35

a global pandemic. And

7:37

we did the PPP program where we

7:40

basically paid people so that they could

7:42

pay their bills and keep the businesses. Well,

7:46

scientists say that, you know,

7:48

many more people's lives could

7:50

have been saved had the

7:52

Trump administration handled the pandemic

7:55

better. So he has to

7:57

take responsibility for that. But

8:00

now job numbers are

8:02

down. US

8:04

employers cut more jobs,

8:06

172 ,000 jobs last month

8:08

than any February since

8:10

2009. during the global financial

8:12

happen to all those people who are out

8:14

of work? And that's just

8:17

in television. They're gonna lose their

8:19

homes, they're gonna lose everything. Stocks

8:21

are down, the recession risk, he's

8:23

saying that there may, maybe not,

8:25

he doesn't want to say anything.

8:27

Well, the people that do study

8:29

that say that the recession risk

8:31

is now about 40%. Yeah, about

8:33

40%. So, it's just fascinating to

8:35

me that, more people

8:37

aren't talking about the fact that

8:39

he is tanking the economy that

8:41

he got. And we are sorry.

8:44

In addition to the tariffs, which is

8:46

key here, there's also a problem with

8:48

consumer confidence. So Rebecca Jarvis, who's our

8:50

chief business and economics correspondent, was talking

8:52

about how 70 % of economy. the economy's

8:54

growth is based on consumer confidence. You're

8:56

watching as not only the tariffs are

8:58

kind of put in and put out

9:00

hokey pokey style and we don't know

9:02

and those same business owners are on

9:04

the phone with suppliers saying, I don't

9:07

know if we order now or if

9:09

we don't order, they can't make decisions.

9:11

You've got everyone sitting here watching day to

9:13

day as they cut all these federal

9:15

agencies and they don't know if they're coming

9:17

back, if they're not coming back, Elon

9:19

just said they're taking away entitlements, people that

9:21

have fixed incomes and are living off

9:24

those. He can't, but what

9:26

I'm saying is if they're gonna

9:28

cut those, people are holding on

9:30

to what they have and stuffing

9:32

it in mattresses right now. So

9:34

that is also a massive part

9:36

is what he calls flooding the

9:38

zone. This chaos is creating such

9:40

kind of like fear and not

9:42

knowing what's happening. And that stuff

9:44

is also contributing to why we're

9:46

seeing this. And it's also contributing

9:49

to why people are in a

9:51

panic mode. and it's translating to

9:53

their children because they're cutting programs

9:55

where we give money to people

9:57

to feed children in the schools. We

10:00

give money to farmers. Food

10:02

is rotting. you know, in Nebraska.

10:04

I mean, there's a lot

10:06

going on here. So it seems

10:08

to me that this, the

10:10

hokey pokeyism of all of this

10:13

entire administration is going to

10:15

start to sooner, I think, than

10:17

we would normally think about

10:19

for the Republicans. I think it's

10:21

gonna start bothering them because

10:24

I think the Republicans are saying,

10:26

wait, we could have done

10:28

X, Y, and Z ages ago

10:30

and we wouldn't be. You

10:33

mean the voters or the politicians? Both.

10:35

I think that, yeah, the politicians are gonna

10:37

take a while, but I think it's beginning

10:39

because you're starting to hear them say, well,

10:41

you know, we're voting on this bill that

10:44

if had we done this, a couple of, you

10:46

like to play that music, don't you? We have a

10:48

lot of guests today, I just have to keep going. We

10:50

have two guests. I know, but I

10:52

was just gonna put a period on it. a period on

10:54

it? Well, too late now. You can blow music, you

10:56

can keep talking. We'll be right back. You put a time

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about because there are a

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lot of political and social divisions

14:16

in America right now and

14:18

some of them even show up

14:20

in the finale of the

14:22

Netflix dating show, Love is Blind.

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Take a look. I love you so

14:28

much. But

14:31

I've always wanted a partner

14:33

to be on the same

14:35

wavelength. And

14:38

so today I can't. I

14:45

asked him about, like, Black Lives Matter, and

14:47

I'm no expert. But like, when I asked

14:49

him about it, he was like, I guess

14:51

I've never really thought too much about it.

14:53

That affected me. I watched a sermon online.

14:56

From his church? About, yeah,

14:58

sexual identity. OK. And

15:00

it was traditional. I

15:02

told that to Ben. And

15:05

his thoughts on it. It doesn't really

15:07

have much to say about it. So

15:11

what do you

15:13

think? So, she

15:15

goes on longer in this, and it sounds

15:17

like her frustration is, it's somewhat ideological. I

15:19

think that you have to have the same

15:21

values in a marriage, but it honestly seems

15:23

more like he just lacks intellectual curiosity, and

15:25

that bothers her. Like that the answer just

15:27

keeps being, oh, I didn't really think about

15:29

it. Not even necessarily what his position is

15:32

that he didn't care enough to have one,

15:34

and I don't disagree with her it. exactly

15:36

right, because he said to her, kind

15:38

of ignorant towards that stuff. Like

15:41

I didn't vote in the last election. He

15:43

says, like I didn't vote in the last election.

15:45

As long as I don't know, it's not

15:47

gonna, you know, do much. You

15:49

can't marry somebody like that. You

15:52

need somebody informed or else you might as

15:54

well marry Marjorie Taylor with rain. Yeah, right.

15:57

But then why wait? Why

15:59

do it in front of don't know

16:02

why she just found that out. I think

16:04

what bothered me when I saw the

16:06

clip, it's not that he, you

16:08

know, there's a lot of people who, politics

16:10

is not their thing, it's just not their

16:12

thing. But to wait until the

16:14

wedding day, - they're forced to do it that

16:16

way, they have to do it, it's the

16:18

setup of this show. But I don't understand.

16:21

It felt a little cruel. It did feel

16:23

cruel. Yeah, I that. Because she could have

16:25

said, no, I'm not gonna marry you, and

16:27

here's why, and they had to fight there,

16:29

but they didn't, so publicly, I just, I

16:31

just thought it was, you know, I don't

16:33

know about this, I don't know why he

16:35

millions of uninformed women, he'll be calling him

16:38

up, he's very cute. I'm

16:40

not worried about him. No, I'm

16:42

not worried about him, but I don't

16:44

like, I don't like seeing folks get

16:46

embarrassed like that. It was humiliating.

16:48

It was humiliating. wasn't to do a

16:50

show like that, you're asking for trouble.

16:52

Apparently, because they meet and then they

16:54

go into a cubicle or something and

16:56

then they decide to get married. And

16:58

they haven't seen each other. And they've

17:00

never seen each other. But don't they

17:02

talk? They talk. So

17:05

she should have found out that he

17:07

doesn't vote, that he doesn't know any

17:09

current events, that he doesn't know anything.

17:12

But I guess if they... have 20 minutes before

17:14

they get to meet, and then they decide

17:16

to get married in 20 minutes, and then they'll

17:18

do it, and I guess that it didn't

17:20

come up. She should've, she needed

17:22

to bring that up right away. He's blind to

17:24

the news, and the show is called Love is

17:27

Blind. And it turns out to hasn't been in

17:29

a pod in his defense. He's in a pod.

17:31

Well, I need my own pod. Some of

17:33

it happened before the pod. We'll be right back. First

17:52

term Michigan Senator, Alyssa Slotkin,

17:54

entered the national spotlight last week

17:56

when she delivered the Democratic

17:58

Party's rebuttal to, you know, who's

18:00

joint address to Congress, which

18:02

resonated with a lot of Americans.

18:04

Take a look. We just

18:06

went through another fraught election season.

18:09

Americans made it clear that prices are too

18:11

high and that the government needs to

18:13

be more responsive to their needs. America

18:16

wants change, but there's

18:18

a responsible way to make change and

18:20

a reckless way. And we can make

18:22

that change without forgetting who we are

18:24

as a country. Don't tune out. It's

18:27

easy to be exhausted, but America

18:29

needs you now more than ever.

18:31

Hold your elected officials, including me,

18:33

accountable, organize. Pick

18:35

just one issue you're passionate about and

18:37

engage. You

18:57

have fans in the audience. I

18:59

mean, thank you. I love the crowd.

19:02

Welcome to the show. Thank you. Thanks for having me, everybody.

19:05

So a little bird told me, first of

19:07

all, you get very high mocks for

19:09

your speech. You saw the response right now.

19:11

Yeah. And we were cheering you on,

19:13

wasn't it? And I heard a little bird

19:15

told me that before you gave it,

19:18

Senator Schumer, called you in, like

19:20

the principal's office. Were you scared?

19:22

What happened? So it was true that

19:24

Senator Schumer asked for a private

19:26

meeting with me and I said to

19:28

myself like... in trouble again? Like

19:30

how is this possible? I've been a

19:32

senator for six weeks. So

19:35

I went in and I was expecting

19:37

to be in trouble and I was

19:39

not in trouble. He gave me this

19:41

honor. The speech is known as kind

19:43

of a cursed speech, right? Like I was just trying

19:45

to not be a Saturday Night Live skit. And

19:48

so we worked on it. We decamped to

19:50

my family farm in Michigan with a couple

19:52

of friends and advisors and we just drilled

19:54

down and wrote it. Did he give you

19:56

some tips about what to say? to

19:59

his credit said like, we trust you and

20:01

go and do it. And I said, you

20:03

know, I need to be able to write

20:05

the speech that speaks like, I'm from Michigan,

20:07

right? So if I think if it works

20:09

for Michigan, it's gonna work for the country.

20:11

And so I need to be able to

20:13

do it the way I would do it.

20:15

And so he did not editorialize, he did

20:17

not tell me what to say. And that

20:19

was why I appreciate that. Now, Senator, you

20:21

are the youngest Democratic woman elected to the

20:23

Senate and in a state that President Trump

20:26

won. That's the tricky part. you

20:28

were in office, how are you balancing

20:30

democratic priorities while kind of appealing to

20:32

the swing voters of Michigan and what

20:34

can other Democrats learn from you? Well,

20:36

I think, you know, for me, it's

20:39

about. trying to find those places where

20:41

we can still work together. If you're

20:43

from Michigan, right? We grew up, my

20:45

dad, lifelong Republican, my mom, lifelong Democrat,

20:47

it was no big deal. We were

20:49

more likely to fight Michigan versus Michigan

20:51

State and Democrat, Republican when many of

20:54

us were growing up. So you're constantly

20:56

trying to find places where you can

20:58

work together, but you're being vigilant about

21:00

protecting your values. And I think that's

21:02

the way I walk in every day

21:04

to the job. I also think Democrats

21:06

need to be in

21:08

what we prioritize. I mean, we can't be

21:11

for everything, because then we're for nothing. And

21:13

for me, I think what we need

21:15

to hear in this last election is people

21:17

aren't happy with the status quo. They

21:19

want change, right? They want something different. They

21:21

got it. Yeah, they got it. But

21:23

there's a reasonable way. And there's

21:25

a, you know, a reckless way. And I

21:28

really believe that. So like I said, you

21:30

want to make change. Like I was in

21:32

the Pentagon, I was at the CIA, we

21:34

can cut those places. I saw the

21:36

fat myself. But let's just

21:38

do it so that we're not making

21:40

Americans less safe. But what's the top

21:42

of your priority list? For me, the

21:44

economy. think most Americans

21:46

want economic security. They wanna be safe

21:49

in their own homes. And they wanna

21:51

know that the country we believe in,

21:53

our democracy, is gonna be there for

21:55

our kids. So President Clinton was right.

21:57

It's the economy's safe. I mean, if

21:59

people can't afford the summer camp for

22:02

their kids or to go on a

22:04

vacation, they are less generous

22:06

with their neighbors, right? They

22:08

feel like desperate. And so

22:10

for me, that very American, very solid

22:12

American dream is still the thing that

22:14

we should all be working on. Well,

22:16

Senator, I thought you gave an excellent

22:18

rebuttal, which, as you said, is kind

22:20

of cursed, and it was one of

22:22

the better ones I remember in recent

22:25

history. But there were also some sort

22:27

of antics and protests on the House

22:29

floor that night from the Democrats, which

22:31

your colleague, Senator John Fetterman, called a

22:33

sad cavalcade of self -owns and unhinged petulants.

22:35

It only makes Trump look more presidential

22:37

and restrained. We're becoming the metaphorical car

22:39

alarms that nobody pays attention to, and

22:41

it may not be a winning message.

22:43

Do you agree or disagree with Senator?

22:45

So, you know, I think what you

22:47

saw on the House floor was like,

22:49

people feel... like passionate, like that I

22:52

identified with the frustration that my colleagues

22:54

had, right? Al Green, you know, standing

22:56

up and like that is, that comes

22:58

from a real place. I think I

23:00

just prefer myself to do it in

23:02

a different way. And I think you

23:04

gotta be for something. You can't just

23:06

be against - But not the cards,

23:08

just the cards. I just, I

23:10

think that, look, I don't think it's a

23:12

secret to anyone that Trump has Democrats on

23:14

their heels. I don't think we need to

23:17

like pretend that's not happening, you know, admitting

23:19

you have a pro - the first step

23:21

to recovery. Yeah. And I think that the, you

23:24

know, people are trying different

23:26

things. And it doesn't mean I

23:28

love every idea, but I identify with

23:30

that need to try and do something.

23:32

Yeah. Well, Senator. Karine

23:37

Jean -Pierre was here on our show and

23:39

she said, quote, we have to have

23:41

a sense of urgency as we move forward

23:44

and we cannot do it the way

23:46

we have in the past. This

23:48

is not normal, it's a five

23:50

alarm fire. Statistics

23:52

show that Democrats want an opposition

23:54

party, not a business as

23:56

usual party, right? 10

23:58

of your colleagues voted to censure

24:00

Al Green, who met the

24:02

moment in my view, by standing

24:05

up for his constituents who depend

24:07

on Medicaid and Medicare. Why

24:09

are you and other Democrats, some

24:12

people say you and other Democrats are

24:14

playing it safe and quite frankly not

24:16

meeting the moment, playing by the rules

24:18

when it's clear that the Republicans have

24:20

thrown out the rule book. Yeah, I

24:22

think, look, I mean, to me again,

24:24

representing a state where people voted for

24:27

Trump and voted for me. I

24:29

have responsibility to represent my entire

24:31

state. But I don't think there's anyone

24:33

who feels like what's going on

24:35

right now is normal, even if you

24:37

voted for Trump. I think there's

24:39

a feeling in the country, and I

24:41

often say this, we're about to

24:44

turn 250 years old. We're still pretty

24:46

young for a country. These are

24:48

our angry teenage years. We are

24:50

going through this push and pull where we're

24:52

happy, we're sad, we want this, we want that.

24:54

And what do you do when you have

24:56

a teenager who's threatening themselves

24:58

and others, you just try to get

25:00

them through this period alive so

25:02

that their brain can fully form and

25:04

you can come back to kind

25:06

of what a country talking about Trump?

25:08

No, I'm talking about our country.

25:10

We're pendulum swinging. We're pendulum swinging. And

25:12

so for me, I don't think

25:14

there's a single American who feels like

25:16

this is normal and therefore the

25:18

response it's a five alarm fire? I

25:20

think what the president is doing

25:22

to our economy, you all just talked

25:24

about it this morning. I mean,

25:26

like, sorry, people may not know the

25:28

federal budget. know their own home

25:30

budget, and they know exactly how much

25:32

they're spending. So I think whether

25:34

it's the economy, whether it's our national

25:36

security, cutting people who keep us

25:38

safe, and then handing over places like

25:40

Ukraine to a guy like Putin,

25:43

or our democracy, threats to who we

25:45

are as a democracy, I

25:47

think that we are absolutely

25:49

in extraordinary times, and it requires

25:51

an extraordinary response. Yeah. Yeah.

25:53

Yeah. We

25:56

have more with Senator Alyssa Slake when

25:59

we come back. You're

26:14

gonna have to start doing steroids. Telling

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his client to take steroids. I can

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As a trainer, you can... Ridiculous. I'm

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We're we're back with Senator Alyssa

27:40

Slotkin. Senator, I wanna ask you

27:42

a question, because Michigan is mixed.

27:44

It's got all kinds of people

27:46

in it. And when we hear

27:49

that, you know, all

27:52

of the things that you were talking

27:54

about, what do you say to your

27:56

constituents who are afraid that they're going

27:59

to get picked up? as American citizens,

28:01

perhaps they're from Mexico, but they are

28:03

American citizens, or they're black folks, or

28:05

they're Asian folks, or they're green folks.

28:07

What do you say? Because one the

28:09

things that we get blamed for is

28:11

being for too many things, but one

28:13

of the things that we always have

28:16

to remember is that we are a

28:18

country that has chopped up so much

28:20

stuff that we have to beat in

28:22

order to take care of us. We

28:24

have to do that. So what do

28:26

you say to people who are really

28:28

afraid that their rights as

28:30

Americans are being threatened in ways

28:33

that we've never seen before. Yeah,

28:35

first of all, you don't retreat

28:37

and like hide. and just sit

28:39

on your phone and doom scroll

28:41

and talk about it, but not

28:43

do anything. Get involved

28:45

in one thing. You don't have to fix

28:47

everything, but one thing that you're really

28:50

passionate about, go deep on that one thing.

28:52

Be active on social media. We know

28:54

that Republicans are just kicking our butts on

28:56

social media. We need to have that

28:58

conversation for every age group, which includes a

29:00

lot of stuff on social media. And

29:02

then you gotta stand up for the values

29:04

that we know are American. values and

29:07

we see that to no one, right? There's

29:09

no one who gets the flag, who

29:11

gets to say they're more patriotic than the

29:13

other ones. I do what I do

29:15

every day because I believe this is the

29:17

best country in the world and we

29:19

need to stand up for it and think

29:21

about, I mean, just at this table,

29:24

the previous generations, when it got hard. had

29:26

said to themselves, you know what,

29:28

I'm just gonna shut myself in. I'm not

29:30

gonna work on women's rights, on civil rights,

29:32

on voting rights. None of us would be

29:34

here right now if previous generations had gotten

29:36

exhausted and just gone into their homes and

29:38

said, not my problem. So we cannot do

29:41

it for our kids and our green. We

29:43

will do it, I believe that. Me too.

29:45

Me too. So yesterday,

29:47

we saw the markets plunge over

29:49

Trump's trade wars on his,

29:51

as she says, the hokey pokey

29:53

that he's doing. Yes, that

29:55

was good. Thank you. But he

29:57

acknowledged there'd be some temporary

29:59

pain, not for him, for everybody

30:01

else. And he didn't

30:03

rule out a recession. So

30:06

do you think that's where we're heading? And

30:09

what does it mean for the average person

30:11

when we're in a recession? Yeah. Well, first of

30:13

all, I think we need to understand what's happening,

30:15

which is the president is looking in all

30:17

the couch cushions for about $6 trillion, so

30:19

that he can pass. of couches. Right, a

30:21

lot of couches, a of cushions. just asking

30:23

a lot. And he's looking for that so

30:25

that he can rewrite the tax code and

30:27

give a real big benefit to some of

30:30

the wealthiest in our country. And he's gonna

30:32

make you pay in every part of your

30:34

life. Prices for groceries, things going up. Has

30:36

the price of a home come down? No,

30:38

going up. And then

30:40

the thing that I want to pay attention to

30:42

is yesterday, they said the quiet

30:44

part out loud. Your Medicare and Social Security,

30:46

they call them entitlements. Those are things

30:49

you have worked for your entire They're your

30:51

money, it's your money. entire life. And

30:53

if they're... Looking in the couch cushions, that

30:55

Medicare and Social Security are some big,

30:57

big bills in those couch cushions, so I

30:59

think they're gonna make you pay, and

31:01

then they're gonna try and tell you it's

31:03

all gonna be all right. Just let

31:06

us get through that. blame it on Biden.

31:08

No, do They'll blame it on Biden.

31:10

Here's, you know what, you have to come

31:12

back. You have to come back, it's

31:14

not enough time. love to. Thanks to Senator

31:16

Alyssa Slotkin. We will be right back. Welcome

31:33

back. Julian Lennon is a

31:35

true Renaissance man. He's a

31:37

recording artist, a filmmaker, environmentalist,

31:39

activist, and gifted photographer whose

31:41

latest project, Life's Fragile Moments,

31:43

is included in his new

31:45

exhibit, Reminisce Right

31:47

Here in New York

31:49

City. Please welcome back

31:51

the fabulous and my

31:53

friend, Julian Lennon. I

32:13

kiss you all, but I know the makeup

32:15

rules. Listen,

32:17

I haven't seen you for a

32:19

while. You've been really busy doing

32:21

all the photography you just were

32:23

in Venice. How are

32:25

you, darling? Alive.

32:29

That's my answer to everything these

32:31

days. Yeah. You know, as long as

32:33

I'm alive and kicking, I'm good.

32:35

Well, most people know that you are

32:37

a talented Grammy Award winning musician.

32:39

I wish I was great. Nominated.

32:41

I'm nominated. Oh, well deserved. I'll take one.

32:43

If you can spare one, I'll take it. They

32:45

always say it's the same thing, and it's

32:47

just an honor to be nominated. For this, I

32:49

am thankful. Anyway, and you

32:51

also are the son of the great John

32:53

Lennon. We all know that from the

32:55

Beatles. Thank

32:58

you. One of my heroes, anyway. This

33:00

is cute. That's when I knew how to dress.

33:04

Maybe someone else dresses you. This

33:06

is true. But Julian, you're also

33:08

apparently a talented photographer. So tell

33:10

us about that part of your

33:12

life. In

33:15

summary.

33:19

I have a foundation called the

33:21

White Feather Foundation and I

33:23

used to go on these trips

33:25

before COVID, you know, to

33:27

South America, to Africa, Ethiopia and

33:29

Kenya and I just used

33:31

to take my camera along just

33:33

to catalog things because I

33:35

truly have the worst memory on

33:37

the planet that I know

33:39

of. And so I would take

33:41

pictures of all my escapades

33:43

and my journeys and all the

33:45

people that I met and

33:47

I just When I

33:49

got home I had so many that

33:51

I thought these would be great pictures

33:53

to share with people to tell the

33:55

story of people on the other side

33:57

of the world and so that we

33:59

can empathize with them a little more,

34:01

understand their lives a little more. and

34:05

try and, you know, in certain circumstances,

34:07

help them. Julianne, one of my favorite hats

34:09

that you wear is your books. Oh

34:11

yes, yes, yes. Touch the Earth is one

34:13

of our go -tos. Thank you, you. So

34:15

anyone that, you gotta go check these

34:17

books out. But you have this new exhibit,

34:19

we'll come back to this. Sure, sure,

34:21

sure. Right here in New York City called

34:23

Reminiscent. Yeah. And it captures, as you

34:25

said, the fragile beauty of our planet. Yes.

34:27

Now we're seeing some of the photos

34:29

behind us now. You use

34:31

your art as a form of

34:33

activism. Where did

34:35

this passion for protecting the

34:37

earth come from? Well,

34:40

you know, it's in the

34:42

blood a little bit. But I

34:44

think also as a teenager,

34:46

a little younger, I actually grew

34:48

up with my mother on

34:50

a farm in the middle of

34:52

nowhere. And so, you know,

34:54

there was nothing to do except

34:56

enjoy nature in every way,

34:58

shape, or form. And I, you

35:00

know, I truly fell in

35:02

love with nature. Because we are

35:04

part of it, you know,

35:06

and so Seeing

35:08

that destroyed and hurt and

35:10

how it affects everybody else

35:12

when things go wrong is

35:14

worth protecting. For me, it's

35:17

not about shoving things down

35:19

people's throats, it's just presenting

35:21

situations as they are and

35:23

for you to make your

35:25

own mind up about this.

35:27

And if you do have

35:29

a heart and you have

35:32

empathy, then perhaps you'll do

35:34

something about it. This photography

35:36

book is just... we

35:38

all got copies of it and I looked through

35:40

it last night and it's gorgeous. The

35:43

exhibit includes selections from that book,

35:45

Life's Fragile Moments. And the cover

35:47

shot for the book, I believe

35:49

we have it right here, is

35:51

of Princess Charlene, yeah, Princess Charlene

35:53

on her wedding day to Albert

35:56

II, Prince of Monaco in 2011.

35:58

Tell us about the picture and it's

36:01

stunning, but why did you choose

36:03

this picture for the cover? I literally

36:05

got a phone call the night

36:07

before her civil wedding saying, from

36:10

a friend saying, Charlene

36:12

wants you to come and take photos

36:14

of her before the wedding. I said,

36:16

I'm not that kind of guy. I

36:18

don't do fashion shoot. You know, I'm

36:20

out in the wild. No, I'm

36:22

not a wedding photographer. But

36:24

so anyway, there was three security layers

36:26

to get in. I had just

36:29

had one camera with me and I

36:31

arrive at the hotel and they

36:33

take me to where she is. And

36:35

it's a small room, maybe 20

36:37

by 20 with the hairdresser's, the hairdresser's

36:39

assistants, the makeup, the makeup's assistant.

36:42

You know, there was about. anywhere between

36:44

10 and 20 people at any

36:46

given point in time. And

36:48

they sat me next to

36:50

her on a little poof. And

36:52

she was just glazed. Yeah. And

36:55

she just says, Jules,

36:59

I don't think I can do this. Yeah, that's

37:01

what her face is saying. And

37:03

I just went. Oh, I said,

37:05

what are you talking about? Because

37:07

you don't want to get married or

37:09

you don't want me to take photos.

37:13

Honestly, I just didn't know. And

37:15

she said, no, I don't. I'm

37:18

too aware. I don't think you can do the

37:20

photos. It's just I've got to try and focus.

37:22

And I said, listen, this

37:24

is a historic moment.

37:26

You're becoming a princess,

37:28

a princess. Please, please,

37:30

please just let me catalog it. I

37:33

don't know what I'm doing. I'm just going to do

37:35

the best job I can. I'll

37:37

take as many photos as

37:39

I can and try and

37:41

capture the moments. And the

37:44

weird thing was that vogue.com

37:46

got in touch and said,

37:48

we'd like a picture of

37:50

her smiling immediately, please. And

37:52

I went back home and I saw

37:54

all these pictures on the screen, and there

37:57

wasn't one of her smiling. And

37:59

I'm going, what am I going to do? What am I going

38:01

to do? And then I

38:03

found one, actually two. But

38:05

the other thing that she said

38:07

was, whatever you do, don't

38:09

have a photograph of me with a

38:11

glass of champagne or a cigarette.

38:14

And in the smiling, she had a...

38:16

Glass of champagne and a cigarette. Now

38:20

I'm not really a

38:22

Photoshop kinda guy, but

38:24

I managed to get

38:26

rid of the cigarette. Yeah,

38:29

yeah, yeah. As we mentioned,

38:31

your father was the late, great John

38:33

Lennon who tragically killed 45 years ago

38:35

and apparently new generations are discovering the

38:37

Beatles. I didn't know anyone ever needed

38:39

to rediscover them. But thanks in part

38:41

to incredible documentaries like Peter Jackson's, The

38:44

Beatles Get Back, Martin Scorsese. these Beatles

38:46

64, what does it feel like just

38:48

knowing that they still have such an

38:50

impact after all these years? Well,

38:52

I think what they

38:54

did musically, lyrically

38:57

and production -wise and everything.

38:59

There was nothing like

39:01

it. And they were

39:03

unique. They didn't stick to

39:06

a particular style or genre.

39:08

They kept pushing and pushing and

39:10

pushing. And that's

39:12

why there's such fascination with

39:14

them. And even still

39:16

today, people who are learning

39:18

to be singers and songwriters, just

39:21

look at how they did things as

39:23

a lesson in how to do something great.

39:25

Yeah. You know, and I

39:27

still reflect on that when I'm

39:29

writing too, but so that's why

39:31

I think they'll be around, excuse

39:33

me, a lot longer, for a

39:35

lot, lot longer, you know. And

39:38

I'm happy for that. Look, this is

39:40

the man that is Julian Lennon. Quite

39:42

fabulous. The new photography

39:44

book, Life's Fragile Moments, is out now

39:46

and you can buy the book

39:48

by scanning the QR code on our

39:50

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39:52

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by hip -hop mogul Sean

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Diddy Combs. I'm Brian Buckmire,

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an ABC News legal contributor.

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As Diddy heads to trial,

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we trace his remarkable rise

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and fall and what could

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be next. Listen to Bad

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Rap, The Case Against Diddy, a new

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