0:03

Hands-off approaches. The president

0:05

spends the weekend golfing

0:07

while tariffs torch the

0:09

economy and spark fears

0:11

of a recession. And

0:14

as millions rally against

0:16

the administration in nationwide

0:18

hands-off protests, are more

0:20

Republicans seeing the danger

0:22

too? What's happening is not good.

0:24

Senator Corey Booker just made

0:26

American history for the longest

0:29

speech on the Senate floor.

0:31

These are not... normal times

0:33

in America. Generations from now

0:35

will look back at this

0:37

moment and have a single

0:39

question. Where were you? And

0:41

he has a lot more

0:44

to say when he hits

0:46

the hot topics table. Then

0:48

Michael B. Jordan and filmmaker

0:50

Ryan Kookler talked about teeming

0:52

up again to raise hell

0:54

in the supernatural thriller Sinners.

0:57

Plus, Oprah Daley's back for

0:59

an all-new view your deal.

1:01

Here come hot

1:05

topics with

1:07

Whoopi! Sarah

1:10

Haynes. Joy they

1:13

have. Anna Navarro.

1:16

Sunny Austin.

1:20

And Elissa

1:22

Sarah Griffin.

1:25

Now, let's

1:27

get things.

2:02

So let's tell you what's been

2:04

going on. Millions of Americans gathered

2:07

this weekend for hands-off rallies around

2:09

the country to protest the administration's

2:11

policies on deportations, mass layoffs, tariffs

2:13

that continued to cause global economic

2:15

chaos. But you know who? We're

2:17

still talking up his trade war

2:19

when he spoke to reporters on

2:22

his plane coming back from a

2:24

golf trip. Take a look. I

2:26

spoke to a lot of leaders,

2:28

European, Asian, from all over the

2:30

world. They're dying to make a

2:32

deal. But I said, we're not

2:34

going to have deficits with your

2:37

country. Now, what's going to happen

2:39

with the market? I can't tell

2:41

you, but I can tell you,

2:43

our country has gotten a lot

2:45

stronger. And eventually, it'll be a

2:47

country like no other. It'll be

2:49

the most dominant country economically in

2:52

the world. Is there pain in

2:54

the market? this idea of a

2:56

Trump put? Is there a threshold?

2:58

I think your question is so

3:00

stupid. I mean, I think it's

3:02

a, I don't want anything to

3:05

go down, but sometimes you have

3:07

to take medicine to fix something.

3:09

So, it will cost an additional.

3:11

714 billion to bring shoes, TVs,

3:13

and all other imports into the

3:15

United States. And according to experts,

3:17

low-income households are estimated to lose

3:20

$ 980 annually. Clothing prices predicted

3:22

to rise 70 percent. Cost of

3:24

a building, building a new home

3:26

will increase. And he keeps talking

3:28

about how we're going to, you

3:30

know, build all these factories. How

3:32

can you build the factories when

3:35

you put tariffs on all the...

3:37

building products people need to build.

3:39

People can't build these products like

3:41

this. What are you thinking? We

3:43

don't have the labor force. No,

3:45

we don't have the labor force.

3:47

And I still don't, you know,

3:50

I'm. I've stopped trying to figure

3:52

out what this... So my theory

3:54

on this, Trump believes that the

3:56

US would thrive from having most

3:58

of our goods manufactured here in

4:00

the United States. Personally, I think

4:03

that's a reasonable take. However, not

4:05

everything that we use day-to-day could

4:07

feasibly be produced here. It's not

4:09

even kind of true. Maybe if

4:11

we were the 13 original colonies,

4:13

this would be sound trade policies.

4:15

We are not. Forbes, for example,

4:18

used the example to produce an

4:20

iPhone purely in the United States.

4:22

There is a reason we are

4:24

a global interconnected economy and what

4:26

we do affects the whole world.

4:28

And I want to talk about

4:30

one person who's having an outsized

4:33

influence on this trade war that

4:35

has tanked the markets, cost people

4:37

a lot of money in their

4:39

retirement accounts already. And it's an

4:41

individual named Peter Navarro who's a

4:43

trade advisor to Donald Trump. I

4:45

knew him in the first Trump

4:48

term. Candidly, the smart economic advisors

4:50

around Donald Trump in the first

4:52

term would try to keep Peter

4:54

Navarro out of meetings with Donald

4:56

Trump because he so often lacked

4:58

information, preparation, statistics. He would put

5:01

wrong information in front in front

5:03

of him. He would put wrong

5:05

information in front of him. Yes,

5:07

but the first time there were

5:09

people like Steve Mnuchin and Mike

5:11

Pence who could stop him. This

5:13

is not just people with a

5:16

lot of money in the... off

5:18

market, this will hurt working class

5:20

Americans harder than anyone. The price

5:22

of everything is about to go

5:24

through. You know, I land in

5:26

Miami on Thursday night after the

5:28

show and there is Air Force

5:31

One right next to me at

5:33

the airport because he was in

5:35

Miami, yes, that's the picture I

5:37

took, he was in Miami this

5:39

weekend at his golf resort in

5:41

Doral. but paling around with the

5:44

Saudis who were holding their live

5:46

golf tournament at his golf course

5:48

and then playing golf and announcing

5:50

that he was winning. So this

5:52

is like Nero playing the fiddle.

5:54

Rome Burns. This is Marie Antoinette

5:56

with a lot less hair and

5:59

a lot more makeup saying let

6:01

them eat cake right so the

6:03

callousness and just if you voted

6:05

for him and you think he

6:07

cares about you he doesn't and

6:09

you know I was thinking about

6:11

okay why does this surprise us

6:14

America you voted not me you

6:16

voted for a failed businessman he's

6:18

you know he built up his

6:20

narrative that he's such a great

6:22

businessman he's such a great businessman

6:24

he had six corporate bankruptcies. He

6:26

had failed businesses. Trump University. Two

6:29

casinos. Trump Airlines. Trump vodka. Trump

6:31

casinos. Trump steaks. Trump steakhouse in

6:33

Vegas. Trump magazine. I mean, I

6:35

literally don't, we don't, it's only

6:37

a one hour show, I can't

6:39

continue. But you know, who told

6:42

us over and over again and

6:44

warned over and over again? Can

6:46

we play the clip? 16 Nobel

6:48

laureates have described his economic plan

6:50

as something that would increase inflation

6:52

and by the middle of next

6:54

year would invite a recession. They

6:57

found short. It was in the

6:59

middle of next year. Where in

7:01

April? Yes, right now. Yeah, it's

7:03

already started. I mean, I don't

7:05

have much to add on it.

7:07

You know, I keep on thinking

7:09

to myself, why tariffs, why tariffs.

7:12

And then I did some research

7:14

and Peter Navarro, who was one

7:16

of the authors of Project 2025.

7:18

He authored the trade section, it's

7:20

called the case for fair trade,

7:22

and he makes it clear that

7:24

the US has to strengthen manufacturing

7:27

and defense. industrial bases here while

7:29

improving the reliability of its global

7:31

supply chains which requires onshoring production.

7:33

But as we all know there's

7:35

no labor force for onshore production.

7:37

There's no infrastructure for onshore production

7:40

and most manufacturing jobs are being

7:42

taken over by AI and by

7:44

tech. So this whole thing is

7:46

Peter Navarro is behind it and

7:48

he's behind the why and Donald

7:50

Trump does doesn't really care at

7:52

all. Donald Trump has been talking

7:55

about tariffs for decades. This is

7:57

something he vehemently believes in. It's

7:59

going to be the gilded age,

8:01

but what people that really know

8:03

history know that these types of

8:05

high tariffs have never worked in

8:07

the history of our country and

8:10

it hasn't worked in other countries

8:12

as well. Well Anna always points

8:14

out here that like Latino voters

8:16

who voted for Trump may be

8:18

regretting as they see the way

8:20

these deportations are playing out. I

8:23

feel like the other issue he

8:25

won on with the economy is

8:27

now seeing a lot of big

8:29

money people come out and say,

8:31

whoa, whoa, whoa, this isn't what

8:33

we voted for, like bill, billionaire.

8:35

Trump supporter Bill Ackman said, what

8:38

CEO and what border directors will

8:40

be comfortable making large long-term economic

8:42

commitments? Some of this is not

8:44

just what's going to happen in

8:46

the near term. Nobody's going to

8:48

want to come in and establish

8:50

businesses here because of the chaotic

8:53

nature. But because he doesn't, you

8:55

know, as you said, it would

8:57

be nice if you go through

8:59

and you say, hey, country, uh,

9:01

we're paying too much. Let's talk

9:03

about how we can do this

9:05

better. You go through, let's negotiate.

9:08

But when you come in and

9:10

slash and burn, see, that's not,

9:12

that's not smart business. That's just

9:14

dog. Yeah. I'm sorry. That's just

9:16

dog. And I, you know, I,

9:18

I'm always gonna try to. to

9:21

get my words to be the

9:23

correct words that don't irritate people,

9:25

but I'm to the point where

9:27

I need somebody to explain to

9:29

me what the hell is going

9:31

on. Because I don't get it.

9:33

It doesn't make any sense. And

9:36

if I did this, if I

9:38

treated my job the way this

9:40

man is treating this job, I'd

9:42

be out of work. We'll be

9:44

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12:34

for as long as I

12:36

am physically able. It's enough

12:38

for me. 12 hours now

12:40

I'm standing and I'm still

12:42

going strong because this president

12:44

is wrong for almost 20

12:47

hours. We have laid out

12:49

what they're trying to do

12:51

20 hours. I want to

12:53

stand more, and I will,

12:55

but I'm begging people, don't

12:57

let this be another normal

12:59

day in America. I just

13:01

want to tell you a

13:03

question. Do you know you

13:05

have just broken the record?

13:08

Do you know how proud

13:10

this caucus is of you?

13:12

Democratic Senator Corey Booker. You

13:49

all have some Jersey up in

13:51

here. Oh yeah. So it's nice

13:53

to see you sitting. Did you

13:55

get any rest? I have, but

13:57

as you know. it's been go

13:59

go go go. and I wanted

14:01

to be one in the number

14:03

of millions of people that were standing

14:06

in rain, standing across the country,

14:08

coast to coast, and speaking up.

14:10

So I've been pushing it still.

14:12

How happy were you to see all

14:14

the folks that came out around

14:16

the country? Yeah. It was, for

14:18

me, food for the soul. And

14:20

you didn't see partisan band waving, you

14:22

saw Americans standing up for Americans.

14:24

Because we really are at a

14:26

moral moment as we've been. generations

14:28

passed in the suffrage movement, the civil

14:31

rights movement, the labor movement, the

14:33

LGBTQ movement, so many movements we've

14:35

seen Americans join arms, a rainbow coalition

14:37

standing up for what's right. And

14:39

this ain't a one-time thing. This

14:41

is going to stay, this is

14:43

going to stay with Americans every day

14:46

until a stuff is fixed. America

14:48

was watching, but your mom was

14:50

also watching. She's no stranger to

14:52

good trouble. And she was watching when

14:54

you did this. And when did

14:56

you realize you actually had enough

14:58

left in the tank to be

15:00

able to go the distance? And the

15:02

question we all want to know

15:04

is, how did it feel for

15:06

you, for you, to break the

15:08

record of strong? Thurman, that racist who

15:11

set the record, filibustering the Civil

15:13

Rights Act of 1957. I hope

15:15

he's turning over in his grades. So

15:17

first of all, what I loved

15:19

about the Civil Rights Movement leaders

15:21

that I love is they never

15:23

let Bull Connor pull them so low

15:25

as to hate Bull Connor. They

15:27

never let Strong Thurman pull them

15:29

so low as to hate him.

15:31

And so, and sometimes God uses people.

15:34

in ways that they don't even

15:36

know. He planted a seed that

15:38

a generation later, somebody would get

15:40

a chance to show that the hateful

15:42

words that he was expousing won't

15:44

win the day, and so I'm

15:46

grateful for that. But you know,

15:48

you asked me physically, we all know.

15:50

that the body has limits but

15:52

the spirit has none. If you

15:54

have a big enough why. And

15:56

what I know from my work in

15:59

Newark when I was coming up

16:01

as mayor and now my work

16:03

in New Jersey is that there are

16:05

a lot of people who've worked

16:07

two eight-hour shifts and they pick

16:09

up the third. You know there's

16:11

a woman I named. They call the

16:14

Mama Tasha at an IHOP in

16:16

Bergen Street that would pick up

16:18

another shift and keep going past

16:20

her physical restraints because she had a

16:22

big enough why for her. It

16:24

was her three kids. There are

16:26

medical professionals and nurses assistants that

16:28

you know pick up that third shift,

16:30

work a full around the clock.

16:32

So I'm grateful for the love

16:34

and attention towards me, but we

16:36

need to center those people who are

16:39

working full-time jobs, catching that extra

16:41

shift. And still in America, they're

16:43

not making ends meet because we have

16:45

a nation that has tremendous wealth,

16:47

but we have not found a

16:49

way to be there for folks.

16:51

And put stresses on folks in this

16:53

country. that are not on other

16:55

countries. Our competitors have paid family

16:57

leave. Our competitors have the ability

16:59

to stay out more than two weeks

17:02

after you've had a baby. There

17:04

are so many things that aren't

17:06

right in this country, and we

17:08

all need to let that motivate us

17:10

not to sit complacently and just

17:12

accept this as the way it

17:14

is. We need to stand up

17:16

and start showing that we can form

17:19

in America. We can redeem the

17:21

dream of America for more people

17:23

through our activism. That's right. People

17:25

have been looking to the Democratic

17:27

Party for a fighter, for a

17:30

resistance leader, for an opposition party,

17:32

and you gave them that. So

17:34

thank you. You call this a

17:37

moral moment, and on the floor

17:39

you invoke John Lewis saying, if

17:41

it is to be, it is

17:44

up to me. So there have

17:46

been mounting calls for fresh Senate

17:48

leadership, myself among them. So why

17:51

not you? You know, Ella Baker

17:53

said it so famously, we are

17:55

the leaders that we've been looking

17:58

for. And Americans, we don't need

18:00

a title to lead, you know.

18:02

need a position to lead. In

18:05

that case, it was 20 million

18:07

Americans that could have lost health

18:09

care. Now with Medicaid, it could

18:12

be 80, 90 million Americans to

18:14

lose health care. But in those

18:16

days, I would like to say

18:19

it was Senate Democratic leadership through

18:21

our devastatingly articulate eloquence that persuaded

18:23

John McCain, but that's just not

18:26

true. It's just not true. He

18:28

famously put his thumb down because

18:30

Americans, I saw these... kids with

18:33

disabilities and wheelchairs rolling up to

18:35

senators and speaking truth to power.

18:37

And so if there's anything that

18:40

real leaders do, real leaders, and

18:42

this is what I aspire to

18:44

be held to this measure, or

18:47

those that don't say follow me,

18:49

they're the ones that inspire other

18:51

people to realize that they are

18:54

leaders and their voices needed. Yeah,

18:56

so important. Senator, it seems like

18:58

there's a natural kind of brown

19:01

swell of energy. Democrats clocked a

19:03

big win in last week in

19:05

Wisconsin. Over the weekend, protesters in

19:08

over a thousand cities, all 50

19:10

states, rallied against the president's policies.

19:12

So what happens now, and what

19:15

should Democrats do to capitalize on

19:17

this momentum? Well, again, I know

19:19

we are living in a really

19:22

tribal moment when we talk about

19:24

terms in that binary way. But

19:26

what I'm hearing from is Republicans

19:29

who are afraid that if they

19:31

lose their Medicaid-funded transportation program for

19:33

their disabled child, their whole economy

19:36

falls apart. I'm hearing from these

19:38

bold and noble Republican veterans that

19:40

are saying, you are cutting 80,000

19:43

jobs. And now I, as a

19:45

female veteran, I'm going to have

19:47

to wait for basic ideological care

19:50

for months and months and months.

19:52

And so I keep saying this.

19:54

If we center this as a

19:57

right versus left, then we're wrong.

19:59

It's really not. It's not about

20:01

right or left. It's about right

20:04

or wrong. And we need to

20:06

stand up and call this a

20:08

moral moment. And so for my

20:11

hope for my party is that

20:13

we're less concerned about our party

20:15

than we are concerned about the

20:18

people. We want to. I love

20:20

that. Right. That's right. That's right.

20:22

We have more with Senator Corey,

20:25

Booker when we come back. I

20:27

don't like blood. Molly Watson's body

20:29

was found wearing her engagement ring.

20:32

They've got to break the bad

20:34

news to Molly's fiancé. This is

20:36

a story about a man who

20:39

was living a double life. There's

20:41

one piece of smoking gun evidence.

20:43

It's not a gun. It's a

20:46

cell phone. What's on that cell

20:48

phone? Bad romance. The 2020 True

20:50

Crime Limited Series. Tuesday Night on

20:53

ABC. with

20:57

Senator Corey book Alyssa has the

20:59

question. Senator, markets are in free

21:01

fall today. A lot of American

21:03

wealth has been wiped out because

21:05

of these tariffs that Donald Trump

21:07

put in place. Now, some of

21:09

your Republican colleagues have been outspoken

21:11

about them in that it will

21:14

hurt their constituents. Do you think

21:16

that the Senate will act to

21:18

reverse these tariffs? And are there

21:20

enough Republican votes that you would

21:22

be able to? So the tariffs

21:24

Medicaid, you're hearing voices on both

21:26

sides of the aisle, from Republican

21:28

thank tanks to some Republican voices,

21:30

to some Republican voices, to some

21:32

Republican voices, to some Republican voices,

21:34

to some Republican voices, to some

21:36

Republican voices, coming tanks, to some

21:38

Republican voices, coming from Republican voices,

21:40

ready, break, no. Change doesn't come

21:42

from Washington, it comes to Washington

21:44

when the people demand it. And

21:46

so this is a time where

21:48

people need to help senators have

21:51

backbone and say enough is enough.

21:53

How long will we let this

21:55

man wreak havoc with our global

21:57

economy, with our national economy, and

21:59

the lives of people who can't

22:01

afford the thousands of... dollars a

22:03

year this is going to add

22:05

to their home kitchen table budgets.

22:07

Another crisis that we are watching

22:09

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22:11

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22:13

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22:15

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22:17

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22:21

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22:23

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22:25

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22:28

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22:30

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22:32

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22:34

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22:36

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back Michael B. Jordan and

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filmmaker Ryan Kugler are a

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winning team who've collaborated on

26:58

the hit movies Fruitvale Station,

27:01

Creed, and both Black Panther

27:03

movies. Now they're joining forces

27:06

again for the new supernatural

27:08

thriller, Sinners, where Michael stars

27:11

as twin brothers confronting past

27:13

demons in more ways than

27:16

one, take a look. Now

27:18

we is one people and

27:21

we shouldn't go in barging

27:23

into other folks places uninvited

27:26

so We've been in and

27:28

out of here all day.

27:31

You never need him by

27:33

theme Yeah, something ain't adding

27:36

up. Can I at least

27:38

get my money? Please

28:00

welcome Michael. This

28:32

is amazing. Yeah. Y'all look amazing.

28:34

Oh, close. Oh, that's true. And

28:36

you got your fan club. I

28:38

do, I do. I do. I

28:40

love the support. They get all

28:42

over the place, man. I love

28:45

them. That's the guys for love.

28:47

Oh, man. See? See? That's how

28:49

is she think. Now, it's only

28:51

right that you should be playing

28:53

twins. Yes. That's a good answer.

28:55

Smoke and stack. That's their names.

28:57

Now, how did that come about,

28:59

and why this story? Oh, man.

29:01

I mean, I think Cool could

29:03

probably answer that one a little

29:05

bit better. Like, you know, why

29:08

this one? Yeah, I'm, I was

29:10

done making the last Black Panther.

29:12

It took a long time. And

29:14

I wanted to make something a

29:16

little more personal, something original. And

29:18

I've been listening to a lot

29:20

of blues records. And I, you

29:22

know, Chiefy, because I was missing

29:24

my uncle, my uncle James, who

29:26

was born and raised in Mississippi,

29:29

but then moved to Oakland in

29:31

his 20s. And he was the

29:33

other statesman of our family. You

29:35

know, whenever I was spending time

29:37

with him, he was just going

29:39

to play all vinyl, all blues,

29:41

vinyl records. He'll drink all Taylor

29:43

whiskey and tell me about Mississippi.

29:45

And he passed away when we

29:47

were finishing up. And the idea

29:50

for this film came to me.

29:52

You know, I always love genre

29:54

films as well. to make one

29:56

yet or more a movie so

29:58

I kind of combined those two

30:00

ideas and I you know the

30:02

movie feels like a blues song

30:04

the twins and and after the

30:06

smokestack lighting yeah famous Holland Wood

30:08

song yeah and a lot of

30:11

characters are you know you're pulling

30:13

from from African-American mythology right excellent

30:15

well I got to tell you

30:17

I saw it and I mean

30:19

I was terrified, horrified. Horrified. That

30:21

scene that we just played, that

30:23

was cornbread that was trying to

30:25

get into the, juke joint. That

30:27

was cornbread that was trying to

30:29

get into, juke joint. The great

30:32

Omar Millie. Oh man, it is

30:34

beautifully shot. It is fantastic. I

30:36

don't even like horror films and

30:38

I love this film. I'm gonna

30:40

go see it again. The way

30:42

you weaved in the music was

30:44

especially cinematic and the history. You've

30:46

got some kind of spicy scenes

30:48

up in there too. It's very,

30:50

very scary. We sent over a

30:53

sneak peek to show our staff.

30:55

Let's take a look at how

30:57

they reacted. of

31:10

course there's some magic involved which I

31:13

love but when you're filming these scenes

31:15

are you yourself scared like like see

31:17

I'm like you I typically don't like

31:19

hard films because I do get scared

31:21

you know but but um so I

31:23

figured if I did this movie it

31:25

might take a little bit of the

31:27

edge off you know what I'm saying

31:29

It did, it did, because in the

31:31

most scariest scenes, we're probably having the

31:33

most fun. I mean, we're laughing so

31:35

much, we're trying to actually be serious

31:37

because it's so ridiculous of what's going

31:39

on. You're trying to make sense of

31:41

it all. It's wild. It doesn't read

31:43

that way. It's scary. Thank you. That's

31:45

good. I mean, it's hilarious to have

31:47

your actor covered in blood and it's

31:50

like action. I don't know how I

31:52

sound when I do this and get

31:54

them going down. That sounds good. That's

31:56

so funny. Give me that vampire story.

31:58

But Blue is Ryan, you spoke to

32:00

this little bit, really factors into the

32:02

story. And there are supernatural and superstitious

32:04

kind of elements at play. Do you,

32:06

you seem to really believe that in

32:08

real life. Is that kind of something

32:10

that you lend yourself to? I do,

32:12

man. I do too. Yeah, like as

32:14

African-Americans, all of us are products of

32:16

the great migration. Yes. You know, if

32:18

you didn't stay in the South. There's

32:20

a lot of us still there. But

32:22

we carried a lot of the traditions

32:24

from Africa. You know, I walk down

32:27

the street, I don't split poles. My

32:29

wife is the same way. We split

32:31

a phone accident, like going backwards. Don't

32:33

walk on cracks. We don't sleep each

32:35

other's feet. You know, so it's a

32:37

part of our, it's a part of

32:39

our heritage. You know, and I grew

32:41

up as an athlete. You know, athletes

32:43

are very superstitious as well. You know,

32:45

I got light your shoes up the

32:47

right way. If something's off, you gotta

32:49

go back and fix it. And this

32:51

film enabled us to kind of dive

32:53

into that history, you know, and explore

32:55

it in a really cool, cinematic way.

32:57

This is the first time I actually

32:59

shot a movie where, you know, we

33:01

actually had the music. already finished. So

33:04

we were listening to the songs that

33:06

are actually like in the movie while

33:08

we were actually filming it and just

33:10

set the vibe totally different in the

33:12

atmosphere. You know, Ryan and this part

33:14

of Louvig, you know, his composer since

33:16

Fruitville Station days, they met in film

33:18

school at USC and they really really

33:20

put a lot of time energy effort

33:22

in making the soundtrack and it sounds

33:24

incredible. It's beautiful. And you guys, the

33:26

two of you have been friends and

33:28

collaborators for over a decade, which in

33:30

Hollywood years is like doggy years, right.

33:32

And you first met when you met

33:34

to discuss making fruit veil station What

33:36

what were your first memories and what

33:39

made you guys think you know what?

33:41

I think this is going to work.

33:43

Let's stick with each other Which I'm

33:45

looking back at it. I mean the

33:47

first memories You know what was his

33:49

work? You know like him being an

33:51

artist himself I read his script, you

33:53

know before I had an opportunity to

33:55

actually you know meet him and talk

33:57

with him And I just remember reading

33:59

the script and this ball and crying

34:01

and crying and and I just knew

34:03

something that I wanted to be involved

34:05

with, and I got a chance to

34:07

meet him out in LA, was at

34:09

Starbucks, you know, and we sat down,

34:11

it seemed like he talked forever, man,

34:13

but I felt like I was talking

34:16

to like one of my best friends,

34:18

like immediately. And Ryan always kind of

34:20

gives off, to me, to me, he's

34:22

always kind of gives off, to me,

34:24

he's always kind of gives off, to

34:26

me, to me, he's always seeing more

34:28

of an adult. Being a director, being a

34:30

coach, being somebody who has to motivate his actors

34:32

and kind of like have a lot of the

34:35

answers to me as an actor was looking for,

34:37

he always made me feel confident and have confidence

34:39

in myself at a really really young age. He

34:41

believed in me. So he was one of the

34:44

first people that really let me know. You know, like,

34:46

hey Mike, I think you're a movie star. At

34:48

a time where I was doubting myself, you know

34:50

what I'm saying? At a time as an actor,

34:52

you're trying to figure out which way you want

34:54

to go. What kind of actor you want to

34:57

be, can I lead a movie? Can I not?

34:59

He kind of reinforced it, like super, super early

35:01

in my career. And Michael, you've grown up

35:03

coming on this show for all

35:05

my children. You've acted since you

35:08

were young, you've directed, you've worked

35:10

extremely hard and had huge success.

35:12

What drives you at this point?

35:14

What keeps you wanting to do

35:16

the next thing? Oh man, a lot. My

35:18

family is like probably the most important one,

35:20

you know, just always wanna make them proud,

35:22

you know, always wanna raise the bar. I'm

35:25

never satisfied, you know, I kind of always

35:27

want to look for the next thing, the

35:29

next challenge, like challenging myself, kind of push

35:31

the boundaries. And then I have, you know,

35:34

a whole generation of other actors, other individuals,

35:36

a whole culture that I want to continue

35:38

to push and motivate, inspire, and lead by

35:40

example, you know, and if I can keep

35:43

working with my, you know, my collaborators and

35:45

friends and other like-minded individuals, I think that

35:47

we can keep. My thing is about change man in

35:49

a big way and I think you have to

35:51

like walk it before you talk it and for

35:54

me I just want to wake up every day

35:56

and try to be better and I hope that

35:58

inspires other people to be better too. All right,

36:00

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36:03

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