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blows. My fellow Americans, this

0:37

is Liberation Day. Trump pulls

0:39

the trigger on his trade

0:41

war by slapping massive tariffs on

0:44

countries around the world. While

0:46

he claims it's a trade

0:48

up for America. Jobs and

0:50

factories will come roaring back

0:52

into our country. Even some

0:55

GOP senators warn it could

0:57

make the US pay dearly. Tariffs

0:59

raise prices and they're a

1:01

bad idea for the economy.

1:03

Full House. Congresswoman Brittany Peterson

1:06

takes her newborn to work

1:08

to demand the House vote

1:11

on a bill allowing new

1:13

parents in Congress to stay

1:15

home and vote by proxy.

1:18

It is unfathomable that in

1:20

2025 we have not modernized

1:23

Congress. Why Speaker Johnson's response

1:25

has critics wondering if the

1:28

GOP is still the party

1:30

of family values. Then, Lawrence

1:32

Fishburne is sharing how

1:34

his entire career prepared

1:37

him for his latest

1:39

role in the pulse

1:41

pounding thriller, The Amateur.

1:43

And six-time Tony winner,

1:46

Audrey McDonald, talks about

1:48

generating more Broadway buzz

1:50

in the new production

1:52

of the classic musical

1:54

Gypsy. Here come hot

1:57

topics! With Whoopies! Sarah

1:59

Haynes! Joy

2:03

Beehaw. Anna

2:05

Navarro. Sunny

2:08

Austin. And

2:10

Elissa Sarah

2:13

Griffin. Now,

2:15

let's get

2:17

things started.

2:52

I love those sweaters. I just,

2:54

maybe. You know, welcome to the

2:56

view. What an audience, they just

2:58

feel so like, like old friends.

3:01

Seeing them. It's really nice. Put

3:03

like that a lot now, lately.

3:05

Yes, it does. Something in the

3:07

air that's making them. Something in

3:09

the air, making people feel like

3:11

friends and connections. It's great. Unfortunately,

3:13

the financial markets are in a

3:16

free fall this morning. Whomp, whomp.

3:18

Not really. After you know who

3:20

declared a trade war on countries

3:22

around the world. Now some Republicans

3:24

are warning, this might not end

3:26

well. But he insists that it's

3:28

the beginning of a new age

3:30

of prosperity. Take a look. My

3:33

fellow Americans, this is Liberation Day.

3:35

I will sign a historic executive

3:37

order. instituting reciprocal tariffs on countries

3:39

throughout the world. Jobs and factories

3:41

will come roaring back into our

3:43

country and you see it happening

3:45

already. More production at home will

3:48

mean stronger. competition and lower prices

3:50

for consumers. This will be indeed

3:52

the golden age of Americans. In

3:54

the long run, we're all dead.

3:56

Short run matters too. Nobody knows

3:58

what the impact of these tariffs

4:00

is going to be on the

4:03

economy. Anyone who says there may

4:05

be a little bit of pain

4:07

before we get things right, need

4:09

to talk about farmers who are

4:11

one crop away from bankruptcy. The

4:13

consumer wins when the price is

4:15

the lowest price. Teriffs raise prices

4:18

and they're a bad idea for

4:20

the economy. Yeah, those are Republicans.

4:22

Yeah, yeah, it is a bad

4:24

idea. I'm sorry, you know, and

4:26

again, you know, if things were

4:28

done in such a way where

4:30

you could follow the logic, I

4:33

would be all for it and

4:35

say, oh, I really don't like

4:37

this or I like that. But

4:39

I don't know what he's doing.

4:41

I don't like what he's doing

4:43

because it affects if you are

4:45

importing or you're exporting. Yeah. So

4:48

if you make per seco. Not

4:50

the greatest thing you don't want

4:52

to hear about terror. You don't

4:54

want to hear about it. And

4:56

every buyer. The thing about him

4:58

is that that's fascinating about this

5:00

guy is that every Nobel Prize

5:02

winners in economy economy are saying

5:05

this is a bad idea. He

5:07

knows nothing about the economy. He

5:09

knows nothing about history because they

5:11

tried this in 1930. Yeah. And

5:13

it made the depression the great

5:15

depression worse than ever. So he

5:17

just decides as a narcissistic disorder

5:20

would, I know better than anybody.

5:22

the economists who know better, forget

5:24

about people who know history. I

5:26

alone can fix it. That's what

5:28

he said one time. He also

5:30

talks about reciprocal taxes, and I

5:32

just asked when you talk about

5:35

how he's doing it, there are

5:37

these herd and McDonald's islands that

5:39

are in the Antarctic that are

5:41

inhabited by penguins and seals. So

5:43

I'm not sure what they did.

5:45

Yes, I was like, come the

5:47

midterms, I think these guys are

5:50

going to be a little pissed

5:52

off. But there are tears. I

5:54

think the one reassuring thing was

5:56

we haven't seen many Republicans break

5:58

with Trump and to see Senator

6:00

Rand Paul actually push back. knowing.

6:02

That resolution probably, it won't go

6:05

through because the House won't take

6:07

it up. He still went on

6:09

the record breaking with Trump and

6:11

we haven't seen that from him.

6:13

So in some ways the cracks.

6:15

But it's nice to start seeing

6:17

it now. We're seeing it now

6:20

because as Joy just pointed out

6:22

during the Great Recession, there was

6:24

an act that was called the

6:26

Small Holly. Tariff act and it

6:28

really almost destroyed this country. Actually,

6:30

we have a clip from Ferris

6:32

Bueller that maybe people could take

6:34

a look at. Now you're talking,

6:37

Sunny. In 1930, the Republican-controlled House

6:39

of Representatives, in an effort to

6:41

alleviate the effects of the anyone,

6:43

the tariff bill, the Holly Smoot.

6:45

Tariff Act, which anyone raised or

6:47

lowered, raised tariffs in an effort

6:49

to collect more revenue for the

6:52

federal government. Did it work? Anyone?

6:54

Anyone know the effects? It did

6:56

not work, and the United States

6:58

sank deeper into the Great Depression.

7:00

So thank you, Ferris Bureau. Either

7:02

Trump hasn't seen, you know, Ferris

7:04

Buehler, to understand the past will

7:07

become prologue. And really in real

7:09

terms, this could affect every single

7:11

household in the United States by

7:13

$5,200. That is devastating. They used

7:15

to project it at $1,600. Now

7:17

they're projecting at $1,500 because he's

7:19

hitting... every country with a 10%

7:22

tariff, every country across the board.

7:24

What is his game? What is

7:26

he doing? So the honest thing

7:28

is Donald Trump is not pulling

7:30

from tea party era logic or

7:32

politics. Think back to the 1990s

7:34

Pat Buchanan who basically believed that

7:37

we could have all American jobs

7:39

here, produce all our goods here,

7:41

we didn't need international partners. We

7:43

didn't need globalization. Well, that was

7:45

wrong then. It's 30 plus years

7:47

later, and it's even more wrong

7:49

now. We are so interconnected as

7:52

a world. We rely so much

7:54

on goods and services from abroad.

7:56

But we also make money by

7:58

sending our things abroad. And I

8:00

used to use the stat the

8:02

other day, but 69% of Americans

8:04

believe this is going to cost

8:06

them more, according to Fox News.

8:09

Every economist virtually does. And what

8:11

I keep thinking about is. on

8:13

the campaign trail. I brought this

8:15

up occasionally, but I think if

8:17

Democrats hit harder on, you're not

8:19

getting the first-term Trump economy. He's

8:21

telling you he's going to do

8:24

something very different. He's going to

8:26

put across the board tariffs in

8:28

place that are going to cost

8:30

you money, that are going to

8:32

cost you money, that are going

8:34

to cost you money, that could

8:36

cost you your livelihood. I wonder

8:39

if that would have broken through.

8:41

61% of Americans are invested. If

8:43

you're on a fixed income, if

8:45

you have a pension, government, or

8:47

state, Social Security is tied to.

8:49

People better living kids to check

8:51

that can afford this increase in

8:54

funding. But also just the day-to-day

8:56

private goods are going to go

8:58

up. This is about the Republicans

9:00

now stepping up a few of

9:02

them. This is a guy Trump

9:04

who bankrupt to the casino. Two

9:06

casinos. Okay. His university went belly

9:09

up. Trump university. Everything he touches

9:11

dies and they didn't say anything

9:13

then and now it's all coming

9:15

on them. And I'm sorry I

9:17

don't have that much sympathy for

9:19

these Republicans in Congress who did

9:21

nothing. No, but I hope they

9:24

continue to see. I want to

9:26

give credit to Mike Pence, who

9:28

in the first term often talked

9:30

him out of these sweeping tariffs

9:32

and said, do more narrow ones,

9:34

you can do ones as leverage,

9:36

but do not do them across

9:38

the board. He's been writing off

9:41

beds, he's been on TV talking

9:43

about how this is going to

9:45

hurt American consumers. Mike Pence, but

9:47

I hope more will join him.

9:49

But we, we, but you know,

9:51

again, this is not news to

9:53

the American consumer. American consumer saw

9:56

and understood. and for some reason

9:58

didn't realize that this was part

10:00

of the plan. I don't know

10:02

if they believed it. It was

10:04

in Project 20, which voted for

10:06

him, I don't know if they

10:08

fully see and believe. Well, they

10:11

want to. Well, they're fully seeing

10:13

and believing it now. Or they

10:15

think there's a grand plan that's

10:17

going to be on the other

10:19

side. The only grand plan that

10:21

changes this is if he reverses

10:23

the tariffs. That's really the only

10:26

thing that won. Yeah, the only

10:28

grand plan is to get rid

10:30

of it. I mean, not for

10:32

me. I just don't understand. unless

10:34

of course he's just angry at

10:36

all the unions that didn't support

10:38

him and the American public who

10:41

some supported him but many did

10:43

not and that's why he lost

10:45

that last election that he keeps

10:47

saying he didn't lose but he

10:49

did but I'm wondering if this

10:51

is you know part of the

10:53

he said is a hell me

10:56

a retribution I will retaliate that's

10:58

what he said people didn't believe

11:00

it well here it is and

11:02

our European allies are shocked today

11:04

because this impacts them just as

11:06

much every single country every country

11:08

except the one with the penguins

11:11

None on Russia. There meant two.

11:13

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11:15

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11:17

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13:46

back earlier this week Democratic Congresswoman

13:48

Brittany Pearson brought her newborn baby

13:50

to work with her to urge

13:52

the House to get with the

13:54

Times and support a bipartisan bill

13:57

that allows new parents in Congress

13:59

to vote by Congress. Take a

14:01

look. We have the ability in

14:03

2025 to make sure that our

14:05

voices and our constituents voices are

14:07

represented here even when we have

14:10

a medical reason for not being

14:12

able to be here in person.

14:14

You know this is the way

14:16

things were done hundreds of years

14:18

ago. I think that we can

14:20

accommodate for the new workplace challenges

14:22

here in Congress to make sure

14:25

more women and in young families

14:27

can be represented here. So

14:29

the bill appears to have the

14:31

votes to pass but Speaker Johnson

14:34

responded by shutting down all voting

14:36

for the week saying he's afraid

14:38

proxy voting opens a slippery slow.

14:40

How exactly did the pandemic not

14:42

show you how effectively people can

14:44

work remotely when they need to?

14:46

Oh, well, good to know on

14:48

that one. It's the hypocrisy. But

14:51

we also talk about representation and

14:53

wanting more women in these places

14:55

and equality. You can't have that

14:57

if every time a woman has

14:59

a baby, you are knocking her

15:01

out of her role in her

15:03

job. And it also benefits men.

15:06

Anytime you have a new family,

15:08

we need to stop treating pregnancy

15:10

like a disability. It's actually a

15:12

major ability to be able to

15:14

be. family values. Well and I

15:16

want to shout out that it's

15:18

Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna who I

15:20

don't agree with on much but

15:23

I think she's absolutely right that

15:25

has been leading this charge and

15:27

it's actually only proxy voting for

15:29

the first 12 weeks those like

15:31

critical months that you have with

15:33

your new board. I completely support

15:35

that I generally disagree actually with

15:37

proxy voting across the board not

15:40

because More because I worked in

15:42

Congress and I think it can

15:44

be a way for people to

15:46

be lazy and to not necessarily

15:48

show up, have conversations with their

15:50

colleagues, actually like work to make

15:52

compromise. I just think it makes

15:55

it too easy. But 12 weeks

15:57

for new mothers is pro- family

15:59

it's common sense is it's also

16:01

just the right thing well you

16:03

have to do it's just the

16:05

right thing to do but I

16:07

will say this I I agree

16:09

with you I don't agree with

16:12

representative Luna on anything and what

16:14

is what I am seeing though

16:16

is a change from Republicans because

16:18

it is now affecting them and

16:20

sometimes people don't have empathy until

16:22

it affects them themselves I mean

16:24

she she you know unfortunately you

16:26

know unfortunately And she actually, this

16:29

representative supported Florida's extreme near total

16:31

ban on abortions. She told Floridians

16:33

that if they disagree with the

16:35

state's policy, they should move out

16:37

of the state. Not the one

16:39

we just saw. No, no, no,

16:41

Luna. And then she also said

16:44

that she supports, as she got

16:46

a, a, a. a rating from

16:48

the Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America

16:50

and influential anti-abortion group. And so

16:52

she's actually called for the FDA

16:54

to tighten restrictions on abortion drugs.

16:56

And so she has voted sort

16:58

of against women's interests, but now

17:01

Luna is supportive of this. And

17:03

so I think sometimes when it

17:05

affects you. or it affects your

17:07

friend or it affects your colleague,

17:09

you start to change and have

17:11

more empathy. And I think that's

17:13

what we're seeing. Of course the

17:15

board, actually, with many, many Republicans.

17:18

This is a great characteristic to

17:20

have. When we only have empathy

17:22

when it affects you. It's not,

17:24

but at least there's some change.

17:26

When we only have empathy when

17:28

it affects you. It's not, but

17:30

at least there's some change. When

17:32

we had Senator Tammy Duckworth on

17:35

the show, like I actually think

17:37

there is total bipartisan agreement. and

17:39

we'll put the bill on the

17:41

floor. I also think that you

17:43

have to keep in mind that

17:45

those 12 weeks, if you're allowing

17:47

12 weeks, you need to allow

17:50

12 weeks for everybody. Yes. Because

17:52

there are lots of reasons people

17:54

need time often, and if you

17:56

have this, that encompasses you can

17:58

say, I need this for this,

18:00

they should be, everybody across the

18:02

board should be able to be

18:04

entitled to it, I think. Someone

18:07

who's as a debt bereavement. I

18:09

mean, there's lots of reasons people

18:11

need time on. Three weeks. So

18:13

I think that it's important to

18:15

really think about what we're saying

18:17

here. It's good for everybody. This

18:19

bill will benefit everybody. So Mike

18:21

Johnson, do the right thing and

18:24

put the bill up for a

18:26

vote. Okay? Thank you. We'll be

18:28

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19:01

that happen naturally. But don't feel

19:04

that being single keeps them from

19:06

living a full life. So the

19:08

question is, to all of you,

19:11

at this table, now, is the

19:13

stigma of not being married finally

19:15

and irrevocably? How old is the

19:18

person asking? And why is she

19:20

British? I took this not to

19:22

over interpret it but I took

19:25

it more as women are not

19:27

putting off advancing who they want

19:29

to be and building their lives

19:32

waiting for men because I think

19:34

there's a lot of focal of

19:36

you've got to find the man

19:39

but they're building their careers they're

19:41

trying to buy homes they're saving

19:43

for futures and then I think

19:45

it's more if a man comes

19:48

along the way, they're open to

19:50

it. Most women in my life

19:52

are that way with the exception

19:55

of whoopie and my mom who

19:57

prefer to be single, but I

19:59

think that a lot, it's more

20:02

about creating the life you want

20:04

and seeing if they come along

20:06

the way. Well, life is so

20:09

short that what we put on

20:11

people with kind of milestones and

20:13

what you're supposed to do when

20:16

you kind of throw that map

20:18

out, you realize there are so

20:20

many things in this life where

20:23

women are no longer financially reliant

20:25

on men. They don't need to

20:27

be handed from a father to

20:29

a husband to support them. Women

20:32

are out on their own. They're

20:34

doing their own things. They're deciding

20:36

not to have kids if they

20:39

want to or don't want to.

20:41

I think... Because that's an important

20:43

question to know. You don't have

20:46

to want that. I don't know.

20:48

I've been married for 26 years.

20:50

I don't know what it feels

20:53

like to be single anymore. I

20:55

mean, I just, I have no

20:57

idea. But I was speaking to

21:00

my producer, Kristen, and she totally

21:02

agreed with this. She was like,

21:04

you know, I have my own

21:06

job, I have my dog, I

21:09

have an apartment. I'm, if somebody

21:11

comes along, that's fulfilled. come a

21:13

long way at least for me

21:16

because my friend grew 26 years

21:18

ago. People were like, you know,

21:20

you get out of school, even

21:23

if you have a job and

21:25

you have your place, you get

21:27

married because you want to have

21:30

kids. You go to college for

21:32

your MRS. Yeah, you go to

21:34

become Mrs. But I got to

21:37

tell you, now that you can

21:39

freeze those eggs, man, you can

21:41

do it by yourself. Well, again,

21:44

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23:54

back in the new espionage

23:56

thriller, The Amateur, Lawrence Fishburn

23:59

stars as a grizzled, grizzled.

24:01

CIA operative training an unlikely

24:03

new recruit played by Remy

24:06

Mallock who turns out to

24:08

be a fast learner under

24:10

pressure. Take a look. We're

24:13

the John Doza get found

24:15

in the dumpster if we

24:17

get found. Which you won't.

24:20

I'm sorry. No, those were

24:22

good lessons. You're a good

24:24

lesson. You're a good teacher,

24:27

you're a good teacher, Henry.

24:31

I took that

24:33

into account. 50,

24:35

50 odds right?

24:37

Do you ever

24:39

account for the

24:41

things I was

24:43

good at? Base

24:45

charge on a

24:47

timer. Please welcome

24:49

back! couple

25:21

of the years. Well Sarah and

25:23

I were at the New York

25:26

premiere last night of the amateur.

25:28

I also brought my daughter you

25:30

were so kind to her. She

25:32

was amazing. Her and her friends.

25:34

Oh thank you. Yes they were

25:36

there on spring break. Thank you

25:38

and my husband we were on

25:40

the edge of our seats. We

25:42

both give it two thumbs up

25:44

four thumbs up if at all

25:46

possible. My heart was beating so

25:48

fast actually like this is an

25:50

incredible film. There are so many

25:52

twists and turns that you have...

25:54

As much fun making it as

25:56

we had watching this. I had

25:58

more fun actually. Yeah, I got

26:01

to work with Rami Malek. Yes.

26:03

Rami Malek is a genius. Yeah.

26:05

He's amazing. He's amazing. You were

26:07

fantastic. Thank you. Wow. You know,

26:09

aren't you have said, and I'll

26:11

quote you, I think, I'd like

26:13

to think that everything I've ever

26:15

done in my career is the

26:17

training I needed for this movie.

26:19

Yeah, to a certain extent it

26:21

has been. I mean, I've done

26:23

a lot of military movies. I've

26:25

done, um... You know, a couple

26:27

of things in the espionage world.

26:29

I did a thing called all

26:31

the old knives a little while

26:34

ago. Yes, yes. Yeah, but I

26:36

could turn on, come on. I

26:38

cared on, you know. He didn't

26:40

really have any much to do

26:42

preparation with this. But all the

26:44

stuff that I've done in the

26:46

military, you know, I did Hannibal

26:48

for a while, which was psychological.

26:50

FBI guy Jack Crawford. Morpheus. So

26:52

Morpheus, not so much. Only in

26:54

that he's a mentor figure. Yes,

26:56

he is. of the traditional teacher

26:58

student. I mean, his character, Rami's

27:00

character, Charlie Heller, has a unique

27:02

set of skills to begin with

27:04

as an analyst. He's a highly

27:06

intelligent individual who gives all the

27:09

operatives in the field, the information

27:11

that they need to do their

27:13

job. Well, you are also in

27:15

the new documentary number one on

27:17

the call sheet. I am along

27:19

with women. Yes, what's up? Yes,

27:21

how is it? It's fabulous. It's

27:23

fabulous. He wants me how it

27:25

was to it's fabulous. It looks

27:27

at the like they haven't shown

27:29

it to us. They haven't shown

27:31

it to us. They haven't shown

27:33

it to us. They have like

27:35

men and then one episode is

27:37

for men on call sheet. What's

27:39

love got to do with it.

27:41

Sure sure. and John Wick, what

27:44

do you attribute your staying power

27:46

to? I love what I do.

27:48

I'm lucky enough to try to

27:50

be curious. I continue to be

27:52

curious and I try and look

27:54

for different things to do. You

27:56

know, I'm willing to play leads

27:58

and I'm willing to play smaller

28:00

parts. I'm willing to do television

28:02

and film and stage and a

28:04

podcast and all this stuff. No,

28:06

and you have to have a

28:08

certain amount of willingness. They don't

28:10

always want you. But the talent

28:12

is huge. Yeah, the talent is

28:14

important, but you also, I'm hungry.

28:16

I'm still hungry. Yeah. That's why

28:19

you want. That's why you want.

28:21

You and Whoopi have a special

28:23

bond because we are actually, this

28:25

year marks the 40th anniversary of

28:27

the Color Purple. Yeah. And you,

28:29

who started that? Oh my goodness.

28:31

What do you remember about filming

28:33

that movie? Forty years. Forty years.

28:35

Forty years? I remember being elated

28:37

that Whoopi got the lead. I

28:39

remember that initially, because that was

28:41

sort of the big, the book

28:43

was so popular. Color Purple was

28:45

so popular at that time. And

28:47

Whoopi had just come off her

28:49

one man show. And suddenly, she

28:51

was going to work with Spielberg.

28:54

And I remember the stories that

28:56

would go back and forth about

28:58

you and Spielberg and all that

29:00

stuff. And I remember the stories

29:02

about how she got about how

29:04

she got that part. Oh, yeah.

29:06

Yeah. She said, she wrote something.

29:08

I will play dirt on the

29:10

floor with the quote. I wrote

29:12

that to, I wrote that in

29:14

a letter to Alice Walker. That's

29:16

it. You really wanted. Alex and

29:18

my daughter and I were driving

29:20

in our VW van and we

29:22

pulled over and I was going

29:24

to buy her shoes and she

29:26

said to me, no mom I

29:29

mean don't get me the shoes,

29:31

let's get the book. And that's

29:33

how we read and we read

29:35

it all the way home in

29:37

the car. And so I wrote

29:39

to Alice and I said I

29:41

played dirt on the floor and

29:43

I had been invited to New

29:45

York to do my one, my

29:47

other one person. And she had

29:49

written to me at my mom's

29:51

house and saying I already told

29:53

people about you I live in

29:55

Berkeley where you live. I've seen

29:57

you. Wow. That's how that happened.

29:59

So it was all that stuff.

30:01

So. The shooting was, it was

30:04

hot, we were in North Carolina,

30:06

there were a lot of bugs.

30:08

A lot of bugs. And you

30:10

know, Quincy and Oprah and everybody,

30:12

I mean, and Dan. Glover I

30:14

mean it was just it was

30:16

a miraculous time because it was

30:18

one of the first occasions I

30:20

remember ever being in a film

30:22

where the three leads of the

30:24

film yeah were black women That

30:26

was a big deal. Well, you

30:28

placed great importance on sharing black

30:30

stories. Yes. Including the 1995 war

30:32

drama, the Tuskegee Airmen. Yes. Fantastic.

30:34

That's right. And at the table,

30:36

we were discussing earlier this week

30:39

about the Arlington National Cemetery coming

30:41

under fire for removing educational materials

30:43

regarding the history and contributions. of

30:45

black and female service members from

30:47

their website. How important in this

30:49

context, in that context, do you

30:51

think it is to tell those

30:53

stories now? It's very important. Our

30:55

history is the history of this

30:57

country. I mean, this country has

30:59

never been white. This country has

31:01

always had a variety of different

31:03

kinds of peoples, right? There's been

31:05

Native American people here and Europeans

31:07

here and African people here and

31:09

Latin people here and Latin people

31:11

here. That's what it's always going

31:14

to be. We're not all going

31:16

to just get up and disappear

31:18

because somebody doesn't want to talk

31:20

about the diversity of the country.

31:22

That's not going to happen. We

31:24

can't let you leave without pivoting

31:26

only slightly for a little matrix

31:28

dish. So it is confirmed that

31:30

a fifth installment is currently in

31:32

the works. Fans miss seeing you

31:34

as Morpheus. We did. In the

31:36

last film, would you consider returning?

31:38

Please. It depends on the circumstances

31:40

who was involved, how well the

31:42

script has been written, if they

31:44

offer me, because I offered my

31:47

services to the fourth matrix and

31:49

they didn't respond well. Oh no!

31:51

So hey, it's not like I

31:53

didn't say, oh I'd like to

31:55

offer my services. I did. Yeah,

31:57

and for whatever reason that didn't

31:59

happen, okay. for you for even

32:01

telling that story. But that's

32:03

the truth. And so, you know,

32:05

we'll see, I mean. You need to

32:07

come back. Well, it sounds like a

32:10

decision as to whether they want

32:12

it to be a great matrix.

32:14

And before we go we need

32:16

to mention that you will be

32:18

in the new animated movie Sneaks.

32:20

That's right. So be on the

32:22

lookout for that. Sneaks. It looks

32:25

like a lot of fun. Yeah,

32:27

me, Anthony, Mackey, Martin, Lawrence, Roddy,

32:29

Rich, DJ mustard. Oh yeah, it's

32:31

fire. So it's gonna be fire. All

32:33

right. And you know we love when you

32:35

come here. We love it when you

32:38

come. It's just such a pleasure and

32:40

honor to always see you. Thank you

32:42

all. We want to

32:44

tell everybody that

32:47

the amateur opens

32:49

in theaters

32:52

nationwide on

32:54

April 11th. Do

32:56

yourself a favor. Go

32:59

and see it. You

33:01

will not be sorry

33:04

that you did. We'll

33:06

be right back. Living

33:14

for some people for

33:16

some, for some, hum,

33:19

drum, people. up

33:44

Broadway again, but she's doing

33:46

it as Mama Rose in

33:48

the new production of the

33:50

iconic musical Gypsy. Please welcome

33:52

back to our stage the

33:55

fabulous Audrey McDonald. So

34:16

I have to ask you Where did

34:18

this this desire to play mama rose

34:21

come from? You know, it's not a

34:23

desire I actually had? But I have

34:25

a dear I had a dear friend

34:28

who passed away this past September Mr.

34:30

Gavin Creel an incredible actor and singer

34:32

We missed him terribly and he was

34:34

very dear friend of our family and

34:37

came over for Thanksgiving dinner about eight

34:39

years ago and he said, honey, I

34:41

want to talk you about something, I

34:44

want to talk about something. And he

34:46

pulled me into the garage, he's like,

34:48

you need... I've just been thinking about

34:50

this, you need to play Mama Rose

34:53

and Gypsy, you need to do it,

34:55

why shouldn't it be a black woman?

34:57

And it should be you, it should

35:00

be you, and you should do it,

35:02

you should really do it. And that's

35:04

the first time it kind of really

35:06

got into my head. Wow, wow. And

35:09

then I started thinking about it and

35:11

then I started talking about it with

35:13

producers and whatnot. And now here we

35:16

are. And Gavin, how you feel him

35:18

by the way? Tired. It's eight shows

35:20

a week. Eight shows a week, yes.

35:22

And you're doing them. Yes, I'm doing

35:25

all eight a week. And she's a

35:27

hurricane. You know, everybody else is trying

35:29

to survive the hurricane. That is Mama

35:32

Rose. So we were just talking with

35:34

Lawrence Fishburn about the color purple and

35:36

it being three black women leading that

35:38

movie. And what makes this production different

35:41

is the three lead roles are played

35:43

by black women for the first time.

35:45

Yes. And it's also being directed. by

35:48

five-time Tony winner George C. Wolf. So

35:50

how does having black women portray these

35:52

characters impact the story? Well I'll start

35:54

by saying that we haven't changed a

35:57

single a single line, we haven't changed

35:59

a single note, we haven't changed anything,

36:01

the story. is the same. And I

36:04

like to say it just hits different.

36:06

Rose is a woman who is a

36:08

single woman with two children in the

36:10

1920s with not many opportunities. That's the

36:13

story, right? And she wants more than

36:15

anything for her children to have more

36:17

than she did. She wants them to

36:20

become stars. And so you put that

36:22

through the lens of a black woman.

36:24

And you see, it just hits differently.

36:26

You know, there's certain lines in the

36:29

show. There's a line at the end

36:31

of the show that Rose says, you

36:33

want to know why I did it?

36:36

You want to know what I did

36:38

it for? Because I was born too

36:40

soon and got started too late. Rose

36:42

also at one point in time, she

36:45

pushes sort of her lighter skin daughter

36:47

forward to try and make her more

36:49

of a star. She tries to sort

36:52

of have her pass kind of as

36:54

white. That's what we do in our

36:56

production production again without. changing a single

36:58

solitary thing. So there's a scene where

37:01

a producer says, yes I'm interested, I'm

37:03

interested in just her. And the mother

37:05

has to not be a part of

37:08

this. And so Rose sees that and

37:10

says, you're trying to erase me, you're

37:12

trying to take her, you're going to

37:14

put her into the white world, and

37:17

you're going to make me and her

37:19

sister disappear. So things like that just

37:21

make the hit. Yes. Well, you know,

37:24

I saw the play. You're a powerhouse.

37:26

You are a powerhouse. And at first

37:28

I thought, I want to how this

37:30

is going to work, you know, like

37:33

anybody, like anybody, because there is a

37:35

true story, great play. It happens to

37:37

be one of the greatest musicals ever

37:40

written. Every single song hits. Yes. And

37:42

you've got the chops, the talent to

37:44

do it. Eight shows a week, though,

37:46

like two shows a week. How do

37:49

you do that? How do you do

37:51

help with that? You know what? It's

37:53

very difficult. Yes, the singing and the

37:56

emotional impact that it has every single

37:58

night. I just did two shows yesterday,

38:00

two show day on Wednesday. And I

38:03

have to admit there are moments where

38:05

when I come off stage. fall over.

38:07

Well I just sort of like stare

38:09

into space like this and any time

38:12

that I can actually be quiet is

38:14

a good thing because Rose never stops.

38:16

And it's also hard, you know, I

38:19

have kids, so it's hard, you know,

38:21

taking the time away from them. Yeah,

38:23

yeah. Well, you know, there have been

38:25

a lot of people who've come to

38:28

see you in the show, as Joy,

38:30

you know, Joy mentioned, it's just wildly

38:32

popular, but in February, former Vice President

38:35

Kamla Harris came to see it. And

38:37

you said that the performance you gave

38:39

that night was... different and special. Well,

38:41

let me tell you why. It was,

38:44

you know, obviously, it was in January,

38:46

so this was after the election. I

38:48

don't like knowing who's in the audience.

38:51

I don't like knowing because I don't

38:53

want to think about what they're thinking

38:55

about. They need the same way, right?

38:57

Right. We'll be same way. We don't

39:00

want to know. We want to do

39:02

our show. Yeah. And so I didn't

39:04

know that she was there. They knew

39:07

not to tell me, but I mean,

39:09

but I was dumb enough to check

39:11

my phone at intermission and a friend

39:13

of mine said, oh my god, are

39:16

you having so much fun with Kamala

39:18

in the audience? I was like, what?

39:20

So what that did do when I

39:23

got to Rose's turn, and there's the

39:25

line where she says, well someone tell

39:27

me, when is it my turn, don't

39:29

I get a dream for myself? Starting

39:32

now, it's gonna be my turn. And

39:34

I don't think I ever, I felt.

39:36

I kind of felt like the earth

39:39

open up from beneath my feet all

39:41

the way to the top of my

39:43

head. I don't think I've ever sung

39:45

the song as loudly as I did

39:48

or have it come from such an

39:50

emotional place. You were standing for both

39:52

of you. I was for all of

39:55

us. I mean for all of us.

39:57

Yeah for yeah for all of us.

39:59

All of us. All of us. All

40:01

of us. Really. Well Audrey as you

40:04

mentioned you have kids you have two

40:06

daughters Sally who's eight years old and

40:08

then. eight-year-old. What can you tell us

40:11

about that? You know, one of the

40:13

most wonderful things about having children such

40:15

an age gap, I mean it wasn't

40:17

planned. You know, I thought it was

40:20

menopause and it was Sally. One of

40:22

the things is my older daughter has

40:24

really, you know, she told me one

40:27

day, she said, Mom, you know, I

40:29

hope that you start to talk. better

40:31

about your body and yourself. in front

40:33

of Zoe than you did about me,

40:36

about, you know, about in front of

40:38

me. It's not that I spoke horribly

40:40

about her body. I was always, you're,

40:43

you know, you're beautiful, you're strong. She's

40:45

like, but mom, I learned how to

40:47

treat myself by watching how you treat

40:49

yourself. Wow, that is powerful. And that's

40:52

how I got the same story from

40:54

my daughter. Yes, and so I was

40:56

a big mistake. I'm so fat, look

40:59

how failing him. I never said she

41:01

never said. Yes. They won't learn to

41:03

celebrate. They're not going to learn to

41:05

celebrate. So it's not going to know.

41:08

It takes therapy. It really does. It

41:10

really does. It is, you know, it

41:12

is the perfect, it is the perfect

41:15

show for you. The first was right.

41:17

Yeah. Yeah. He really got it right

41:19

down. So thank you as always for

41:21

coming to us. You can see her

41:24

in Gypsy on Broadway at the Majestic

41:26

Theater. Do yourself a favor, y'all. Now

41:28

you got a lot of stuff that

41:31

we've been telling you to check out.

41:33

You don't want to miss this. This

41:35

is a once in a lifetime, in

41:37

your lifetime, opportunity to watch her do

41:40

this. We'll be right back. She has

41:42

dwarfism. Starring Ellen Pompeo and Mark Duplas.

41:44

Something is off. She's just a little

41:47

girl. You think she's faking? She has

41:49

adult teeth? There are signs of puberty?

41:51

Inspired by the shocking stories, the Torah

41:53

family apart. I don't know what's going

41:56

on. How old are you? You should

41:58

get a lawyer. You have no idea

42:00

how those people hurt this girl. The

42:03

Hulu original series. Good American Family. New

42:05

episodes, New episodes Wednesday streaming on Hulu.

42:07

The amateur arrives in I'm X. I

42:09

want to find and kill the people.

42:12

My wife. Critics rave. The amateur is

42:14

a tense, unpredictable ride. You're just not

42:16

a killer, Charlie. Train me. That constantly

42:19

finds new and inventive ways to up

42:21

the stakes. The first one you kill,

42:23

you let the other ones know you're

42:26

coming. I want them all. Academy Award

42:28

winner Rummy Malick. An Academy Award nominee.

42:30

Lawrence Fishburn. The amateur. Maybe an appropriate

42:32

for children under 13. Only in theaters

42:35

in Max, April 11th. Get tickets it

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gets now. Sarah and Her Behind. are

42:39

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42:42

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42:44

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42:46

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Potential savings will vary. Not available

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in all states.