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0:42

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0:44

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0:49

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0:52

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0:54

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Alyssa Sarah Griffin. Now,

1:58

let's get things started.

2:31

And welcome to The View Again. Thank

2:35

you. We

2:37

love you too. We're back from vacation.

2:42

Yeah. Thank you,

2:44

ma 'am. It's

2:47

just so odd to be here.

2:49

It was short. It

2:52

felt short. I felt like

2:54

we left last week. And

2:57

I guess that's what we did. And

2:59

now we're back. But of

3:01

course things don't stop happening just

3:03

because we leave. So

3:06

Secretary of Defense Pete

3:08

Hegseth is defending himself again

3:10

over a New York

3:12

Times report claiming that he

3:14

shared sensitive military plans

3:16

with his wife, his brother,

3:18

his lawyer, another

3:20

signal chain. He defended himself

3:22

while he was at. The

3:25

family White House, he was

3:27

at the White House Easter egg

3:29

roll yesterday. Take

3:31

a look. This is what the

3:33

media does. They take anonymous

3:35

sources from disgruntled former employees and then

3:37

they try to slash and burn

3:39

people and ruin their reputation. I'm not

3:41

gonna work with me. This is

3:43

what we're doing it for. These kids

3:45

right here. This is why we're

3:47

fighting the fake news media. This is

3:49

why we're fighting slash and burn

3:52

Democrats. This is why we're fighting hoaxers,

3:54

hoaxers. This group, no, no,

3:56

this group right here, full of hoaxers.

4:02

Does that mean they're hokey? I

4:05

don't know what a hoaxer

4:07

is, but that's okay. a hoaxer?

4:10

Not a hook or a hoaxer. I

4:13

think it's someone who plays tricks

4:15

on people, hoaxes. I've never heard

4:17

of that. I've never heard it,

4:19

folks. You made that up. But

4:22

there are reports that the

4:24

Pentagon is in chaos, and

4:26

his days could be numbered.

4:28

But the White House says,

4:30

no, they're behind them, kinda.

4:33

Where do you see this going? I'm

4:35

gonna ask you because, you know it.

4:37

In that clip, he said these fake

4:39

news reports from anonymous sources, one of

4:41

his senior aides, John Oliot, who I

4:44

actually worked with you is at the

4:46

NSC when I was at the White

4:48

House. Pendent op -ed in Politico saying,

4:50

the Pentagon is in chaos. I respect

4:52

Pete Hegseth, but he needs to step aside.

4:54

He put his name to it, which

4:56

I give him a lot of credit for.

4:58

Listen, this individual was always under qualified

5:00

for this role. Yes, he served our country

5:02

in uniform, but he did not have

5:04

the years of experience it takes to run

5:06

this big of a department. And the

5:08

cracks are showing, and there are going to

5:10

be more stories like this. And what

5:12

I would say to people, whether they support

5:14

the president or don't, national security is

5:16

above politics. You should want the most qualified.

5:18

person in this role. And I think

5:20

of when I was working at the Pentagon.

5:22

There were days that I couldn't tell Justin

5:25

what I was doing at work because it

5:27

was classified because I was working on something

5:29

that was sensitive. That was just a simple

5:31

agreement. And my role was not nearly as

5:33

sensitive as this individual. He just seems to

5:35

lack the sort of judgment. And there are

5:37

people who are imminently qualified that could do

5:39

this. I think of Senator Joni Ernst on

5:41

the Armed Services Committee. If he wants a

5:43

Fox News personality, General Jack King, a

5:45

retired four star general who supports Donald Trump

5:47

but is qualified to run the biggest, the

5:49

most powerful military. on the planet, I think

5:51

that people smell blood in the water, advisors

5:53

are gonna get to Trump and say, this

5:55

guy is too big of a distraction and

5:57

his days will be numbered. Trump has been

5:59

saying that it's a big nothing. I think

6:01

he wants to get through the first 100

6:03

days and then I think he's... It seems

6:05

like... Aren't we through 100? We're not through

6:07

the first 100 days. I

6:10

don't get impression. I

6:12

don't get the impression. I

6:16

don't get the impression that Trump even knows

6:18

what goes on in these signal meetings. It's

6:20

like Hexeth's wife knows more than the president.

6:22

Well, that's the thing is, this was a

6:25

concurrent message. The message that we talked about

6:27

when I first saw this news story, I

6:29

thought it was like a more recent one.

6:31

This was a concurrent signal chat happening between

6:33

his wife, his brother, and his lawyer. And

6:35

his orthodontist. Well, and you have to ask

6:37

yourself, why would someone do that? And the

6:39

only thing that could come to, I guess,

6:41

a reasonable mind is you're trying to say,

6:43

look at my big job. And if you're

6:46

looking for something, like that, you should probably

6:48

be like a press secretary or someone in

6:50

front - president of this - Or go back

6:52

to being a Fox News host, which is

6:54

what he was doing. When he eked by,

6:56

remember that J .D. Vance had to give

6:58

the final vote to tie break for Pete

7:00

Hegseth. The big concern was his lack of

7:02

judgment and his qualifications. And I think, like

7:04

you said, the cracks are showing, because this

7:07

is an instance where he's trying to say

7:09

everyone's a hoaxer and this is fake news. you

7:12

gotta know the difference and be able

7:14

to discern between people coming after you for

7:16

just a nothing burger and national security.

7:18

Like what he's holding on to puts people's

7:20

lives at stake. It's everyone that's out

7:22

the field. this one was a goal for

7:24

a question in on this one. No,

7:26

I didn't do it. But they just recently

7:28

had two people or three people that

7:31

were fired with no explanation and two of

7:33

those people were on this signal chat.

7:35

And they admitted that he started the chat.

7:37

I had the same kind of reaction

7:39

that Alyssa had because I was a little

7:41

a lowly federal prosecutor, and I would

7:43

present things in front of the grand jury,

7:45

which are secret proceedings. My

7:47

friend is here in the audience saying yes,

7:49

you know, under Rule 6E, and Manny would

7:52

say, hey, what you do today? I couldn't

7:54

say, oh, well, I was in front of

7:56

the grand jury with somebody that's in the

7:58

WITSEC program, and I asked these questions,

8:00

like, you would lose your job for something

8:02

like that, someone even at that level, so

8:04

that in and of itself was just such

8:06

a breach of decorum and national security, but

8:08

the other thing that I thought of to

8:11

your question Joy, which is... seems

8:13

to be behaving as if this

8:15

is nothing. There's quite a

8:17

double standard because he's standing by

8:19

Hexeth, but if you remember, he sang

8:21

a different tune when he called

8:23

for America's first black defense attorney, Lloyd

8:25

Austin, appointed by President Biden in

8:27

2021 to resign after he failed to

8:29

disclose that he had undergone a

8:32

surgical operation to treat prostate cancer. And

8:34

he was kind of gone for

8:36

about four days. I'm not saying that

8:38

that was good either, but I

8:40

don't think those two things are the

8:42

same because Trump said Austin should

8:44

be fired. immediately for improper professional conduct

8:46

and dereliction of duty. If

8:48

that was the case then, then

8:50

President Trump, that's the case now. That's

8:53

the case now. Good luck with

8:55

that. But he accessed

8:57

himself. said in 2016, any security,

8:59

professional, military, government, or otherwise would

9:01

be fired on the spot for

9:04

this type of conduct when it

9:06

came to Hillary's emails. So

9:08

again, it's an inconsistency, it's a hypocrisy,

9:10

a double standard. Where's the Republicans in Congress

9:12

though? They should be opening their mouths.

9:14

I think they're already opening too. Don Bacon

9:16

from Nebraska is called from the resign.

9:18

I think some others are gonna start. Well,

9:23

you know. Double

9:25

standards have not changed. Double

9:28

standards are still double standards and

9:30

they don't sit well with anybody.

9:33

So we're gonna keep watching, but I just

9:35

wanna commend the people of the United

9:37

States. I wanna say

9:39

thank you for still getting up

9:42

and getting out over the

9:44

weekends and protesting and making your

9:46

voices heard. I wanna thank

9:48

you for that. I

9:50

wanna thank you for not

9:52

being afraid. to say

9:55

we are not happy. And

9:57

it's both sides, it's Republicans,

9:59

it's independence, it's everybody. It's

10:01

American citizens saying there's something wrong

10:03

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10:05

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10:07

I just want to say thank y

10:09

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13:34

back. Yesterday was

13:36

a tough day because

13:39

Pope Francis, one of the

13:41

great popes in my opinion,

13:44

passed away just hours after

13:46

sharing a very timely Easter

13:48

message at the Vatican. He

13:51

called on people to

13:53

embrace those who are different

13:55

or who are from different

13:57

lands because we are all

13:59

children of God. Now

14:02

his final message to

14:04

us was that, do

14:06

you think it will resonate? Gosh,

14:09

I would sure hope so. It's interesting when

14:11

people speak of the Pope right now, they

14:13

talk about the type of Pope he was.

14:15

There's liberal popes, there's conservative. When

14:17

I think of this Pope, he was

14:20

the most Jesus -like. You know,

14:22

when you read of Jesus and what his

14:24

word was and how he walked, this is

14:26

what I think of, a person who lives

14:28

their life this way. He also said at

14:30

one point in 2013 regarding gay priests, if

14:32

someone is gay and he searches for the

14:34

Lord and has good will, Who am

14:36

I to judge? And these messages

14:38

were what resonated with me, not as a

14:40

Catholic, but just a Christian. The

14:42

love thy neighbor, love all thy

14:45

neighbors, and do not judge. And he

14:47

lived that through his words and his actions.

14:49

I don't if I love all my neighbors though.

14:54

I love that you said that

14:56

because as a Catholic, my

14:58

whole life, and all of you

15:01

know this, I've spoken to

15:03

many of you about it, I've

15:05

struggled with Catholicism because of

15:07

so many of the church's, the

15:09

doctrines, especially when in regards

15:12

to the LGBTQ plus community. in

15:14

terms of the sex scandals. I've struggled

15:16

with being a Catholic, but this pope

15:18

changed things for me, and Whoopi and

15:20

I have spoken about that. And I

15:23

remember I was having this discussion with

15:25

you, Joy, about how I feel like

15:27

there's this crisis of empathy in this

15:29

country, that unless it happens to you,

15:31

you can't feel the empathy of it

15:33

happening to somebody else. They're gonna deport

15:35

that person. It's not gonna affect my

15:37

family, so I don't care that it's

15:39

affecting others. And I was

15:41

watching a 60 minutes piece that

15:44

he was interviewed on, and he

15:46

said, we have to get over

15:48

our hearts to feel again. We

15:50

cannot remain indifferent in the face

15:52

of such human dramas. The globalization

15:54

of indifference is a very ugly

15:56

disease that this country is suffering

15:58

from. That's the kind of pope

16:00

that he was, and that's the

16:02

kind of pope that I hope

16:04

will replace this pope after the

16:06

conquest. I wonder though, because there

16:08

might be a backlash against how

16:10

good he was and how much

16:12

humility he had compared to some

16:14

of the leaders in this world

16:16

right now. So there might be

16:18

a backlash to it, and they'll

16:20

get some conservative guy in there

16:22

who is anti -gay. and

16:24

everything else. I would just say I'm a Protestant,

16:26

but I loved this pope and I loved how

16:28

he advocated for refugees, which is just a core

16:30

tenant of the Christian faith. He

16:33

visited, he was the first pope to

16:35

ever visit Iraq and meet with Yazidi Christians

16:37

who'd been displaced by ISIS. He

16:39

brought Syrian refugees to Rome. I mean, he was

16:41

just an incredible person and somebody will miss. And

16:43

I know you met him personally. Yeah,

16:46

he was great. I mean, listen,

16:48

he brought, and this

16:50

sounds crazy. But

16:52

he brought 100

16:54

comedians from around

16:56

the world, 100

16:58

of us, into

17:00

meet with him. And

17:03

what he said was, what

17:06

he

17:09

said was,

17:12

I want to laugh more. We

17:16

all need to laugh more. And

17:18

then he looked at the hundred

17:20

of us and he said, what

17:22

you do is very important because

17:24

without you, it's a grayer day.

17:27

Now I don't know any other

17:29

pope in my lifetime. My pope

17:31

was John the 23rd, who I

17:33

was a little kid and saw

17:35

him and he was going by

17:37

in a pope -mobile and he

17:40

looked over and it was like,

17:42

I see you, and I thought,

17:44

I see you too. And

17:47

this pope, his

17:50

thing is this, he

17:52

grew up around refugees.

17:56

He understood what people

17:58

needed. He got

18:00

it. Now, whether you

18:02

like it or not, refugees

18:05

are with us around the

18:07

world. So why be

18:09

negative, why not be

18:11

positive and help, which

18:13

is what he has always said, and

18:16

help and walk in the grace

18:18

of God? Because that's how that

18:20

works. One

18:23

of the things that stands out. Pictorially

18:27

is a picture of somebody like

18:29

Musk and Trump who are cutting

18:31

back on helping children around the

18:33

world. You know, cutting back on

18:35

services for sick children and et

18:37

cetera. And then you see the

18:39

Pope washing the feet of the

18:41

poor. The contrast is astounding

18:43

really. You were talking about the

18:45

legacy and whether there's any legs to

18:47

this. Yes, I think that those

18:49

pictures should be put out there all

18:51

the time because this administration is

18:53

basically hurting children around around the world

18:55

with these cuts that they're doing. USAID

18:58

and all of this other stuff. a disgrace.

19:00

And hurting other people just to put a

19:02

button on that. You know, what he said

19:04

when he saw Trump during the first administration

19:06

with the building a wall and Mexico's gonna

19:09

pay for it. We know Mexico didn't pay

19:11

for anything. He said, the

19:13

Pope said this, a person who thinks only

19:15

about building walls wherever they may be and

19:17

not building bridges is not Christian. Well

19:19

you better tell that to some people.

19:21

Well we think they're Christians. Hopefully,

19:27

hopefully the conclave will

19:29

find a way to

19:31

continue on his path

19:33

because what it has done

19:36

is it seems to

19:38

have brought people back

19:40

because they're not afraid

19:42

of being divorced, because the

19:44

Pope wasn't mad about

19:46

it. Because you're

19:48

gay, Pope said, look, you love

19:50

God, I love God, why am I mad

19:52

at you? All of these things, went

19:55

on to bring people

19:57

back into the church.

20:00

And if the church is smart, they

20:02

will not waste this. This

20:05

is a legacy that

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not only preached in word,

22:21

he preached in deed. The

22:23

papacy of Pope Francis in

22:25

one word, humility, modesty, accessibility,

22:28

mercy, mercy, mercy. It's

22:30

beautiful. Celebrating

22:34

Francis, the People's Pope,

22:36

the television event tonight on

22:39

ABC. activists

22:47

are hitting the panic

22:49

button over massive rollbacks on

22:51

environmental safety measures. So

22:53

there has never been a

22:55

more vital time to

22:57

take Earth Day seriously. Here

23:00

to tell us more is

23:02

ABC News chief meteorologist, Ginger

23:04

Z. Ginger Z. Great

23:08

to be here. Happy Earth Day. So

23:10

joy it's you. Yes. So

23:12

Ginger, it was reported this month

23:14

that the Trump administration will

23:16

be canceling funding for the United

23:18

States Global Change Research Program,

23:21

which produces the federal government's climate

23:23

change study. This is

23:25

just one of the many rollbacks on

23:27

climate research so far. I

23:29

would like to just add

23:31

that the pope was outspoken

23:33

against climate change and he

23:35

blamed it on wealthy countries,

23:37

just FYI. So, since

23:39

they're rolling back all of these

23:41

things, how quickly are we going to

23:43

see the impact of this on

23:45

our climate, which we all happen to

23:47

need? Well,

23:49

the Pope was right, Joy. Those with less

23:52

feel it first. That's how this works. But we

23:54

all are feeling it. And that's the thing

23:56

is no one can escape these impacts at this

23:58

point. It's just that some of us will

24:00

have better resilience. I think with the rollbacks and

24:02

what we need to know is climate research

24:04

and data is critical. It's critical to

24:06

what I do. I know in the

24:08

last couple of weeks, we've seen websites disappearing

24:11

that we use all the time as

24:13

meteorologists. So those are like our receipts to

24:15

see how the atmosphere and how our

24:17

earth is doing and how we are moving

24:19

a needle in one direction. or another.

24:21

Important, yes, but I think most climate scientists

24:23

would say an administration that is going

24:25

headlong and headfirst into supporting fossil fuels and

24:28

turning away from renewables, that's the thing

24:30

that's having the most immediate impact on the

24:32

changing climate now. I happen to think

24:34

that every time somebody gives the weather, they

24:36

should mention some of these things. That's

24:39

not enough to just say 52

24:41

degrees outside. This should be

24:43

included in every weather report from now on. It

24:47

changed the way I do what I do. I

24:49

do what I do, sure. And

24:51

Jinger, you're doing great work in this

24:53

space. Now you're coming to us from a

24:55

farm in North Carolina where the farmers

24:57

are using rock dust to fertilize farms and

24:59

help clean the atmosphere. Can you tell

25:01

us a little bit more about this process?

25:05

Yes, on this Earth Day, I'd say a

25:07

solution that probably makes me the most

25:09

optimistic I have ever felt in covering this

25:11

for the last quarter century or so.

25:13

So what I'm standing next to is very

25:15

basic basalt dust. It comes from a

25:17

waste product that is made at a mine

25:19

nearby. You know, they make asphalt and

25:21

concrete and things. They just had this stuff

25:23

piling up. Then this company, Lithos Carbon,

25:25

comes around. They said, hey, do you have

25:27

any of that rock dust? Because we

25:29

want to take it, put it into a

25:31

spreader and put it over big farm

25:33

fields here in North Carolina. and actually in

25:35

more than 11 states across the nation.

25:37

What that does is takes a process that

25:39

happens in nature pretty naturally. If you

25:41

have like a regular rock, it is wonderful

25:43

at absorbing carbon dioxide out of the

25:45

atmosphere. However, it takes thousands or millions of

25:47

years when you break it down like

25:49

this and you put it all over the

25:51

soil. It takes two to three

25:53

years. And you're seeing drone video, I

25:55

think, of what we did earlier. We spread

25:57

one truckload. That's 20 tons of this

26:00

rock dust. And is the equivalent of taking

26:02

out the emissions of five American homes

26:04

for an entire year. So it's really effective

26:06

and really exciting. That's incredible, Ginger.

26:08

So this week, you also spoke about

26:10

sustainable housing that's made entirely with recycled

26:12

materials. How does this work? And will

26:14

we start to see more of these

26:16

homes in the near future? So

26:20

most people know that construction and

26:22

building is the worst when it comes

26:24

to the carbon footprint in our

26:26

world. It produces the most waste. Definitely

26:28

the biggest emissions compared to even

26:30

aviation or transportation. So we have to

26:32

find other ways of building, you

26:34

know, concrete and steel. For example, they

26:36

have more emissions than most. countries. So

26:39

what we did was we looked at several

26:41

different companies, one of them called Renco, which has

26:43

built these kind of Lego like bricks where

26:45

you can make apartments, homes. You can

26:47

make them really fast. Like they built

26:49

a 96 apartment complex in eight weeks,

26:52

all out of. reused materials. We also

26:54

looked at the University of Maine who

26:56

has made these 3D printed homes. So

26:58

you just make them right on site.

27:00

They can be made within a week.

27:02

They can be really prolific, but also

27:04

pretty inexpensive. And that's the excitement. You

27:06

can also break those things down right

27:08

back into the pellets they came from

27:10

and reuse that again. Wow.

27:13

It's amazing. It's amazing. Well,

27:15

listen. Thanks

27:21

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27:23

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27:25

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27:27

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27:30

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27:32

back. 11

27:41

generations ago, one of my

27:43

ancestors left Spain for the

27:45

new world and a new

27:47

life. 400 years later, I'm

27:49

back. I'm so excited to

27:51

see how the land and

27:53

its people have created one

27:55

of the world's most exciting

27:57

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27:59

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28:01

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28:03

Hey, that was just eating

28:05

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28:14

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28:18

Please welcome back the

28:20

more fabulous Eva

28:22

Longoria. How

28:48

are you? Love the dress. Thank you. You look

28:50

good. I wore it for y 'all. Trying to

28:52

bring sun to New York. that. We need it. And

28:55

so I heard that you had the

28:57

big birthday recently. You had the half

28:59

-century mark. 50, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I

29:01

know. It

29:03

was fun. I had a month

29:05

-long party. I heard. And Anna

29:08

Navarro and her constant companion

29:10

Chacha. Yeah, she was there. Were

29:12

there. She was there. You

29:15

said that you're looking forward to the

29:17

next decade. Is there anything in particular?

29:19

No. I'm

29:21

looking forward to a nap. No,

29:25

yes, I'm tired. You're very busy. No,

29:27

but I do like working and I'm... I'm

29:29

blessed for that, but no, you know,

29:31

I feel like the first 50 years of

29:33

your life is about saying yes, especially

29:35

like your 30s and your 20s and your

29:37

30s and your 40s of like, yes,

29:39

I'll do that. Yes, I'll date him. Yes,

29:41

I'll move to Spain. Yes, you know,

29:43

do it all. Yes, say yes to everything.

29:46

Now I'm about no. Yeah,

29:49

everything, everything. They're

29:51

like, do you want to do this? No,

29:53

I really, you

29:55

know, but it is about curating, curating your

29:58

life to things that matter and having

30:00

different. priorities, obviously, I'm a mom

30:02

late in life, and so I

30:04

have a very young, he's six, yeah.

30:06

Yeah, Santi. Yeah, Santi, he's my

30:08

angel, that's my husband. Also

30:10

looks like an angel. My

30:12

husband is an angel. Yeah,

30:14

so just curating your life

30:17

experiences. Well, speaking of curating

30:19

experiences, I was obsessed with searching for

30:21

Mexico, so I'm so thrilled to see you

30:23

in searching for Spain. You're hosting and

30:25

executive producing, and you travel all over, you're

30:27

eating, you're seeing beautiful places. Where are

30:29

some of the places you went and did

30:31

you have a favorite stop along the

30:33

way? Oh my gosh, all

30:35

of them. I love Spain. I live

30:38

part time in Spain, in the south,

30:40

in Marbella. So I know that area

30:42

more, but in the north, my family's

30:44

from Asturias, so I got to visit

30:46

Asturias. I'd never been to Galicia, which

30:48

has, I've always wanted to go because

30:50

there's a Camino de Santiago, which is

30:53

a Catholic pilgrimage that ends in Galicia.

30:55

miles. Yeah, it takes 30 days. It

30:57

starts in the south of France. to

30:59

do the pilgrimage and - They walk?

31:01

Yes, walk. Yes, they walk. They're

31:04

golf carts. You can take a bike, you

31:06

can take a horse, you can do 30

31:08

miles a day. Yeah, I

31:10

forget how many kilometers a day, but

31:12

I've always wanted to do it, so

31:14

I didn't, haven't done it, I will

31:16

do it, but I was at the

31:18

cathedral at the end in Galicia and

31:20

to see the pilgrims arrive, whether it

31:22

was church groups or youth groups or

31:24

backpackers, and they're in tears and just

31:26

like full of face. It's a beautiful,

31:28

beautiful site. So that was one of

31:30

my favorites. This is a beautiful, beautiful

31:32

series. I watched it last night with

31:34

my husband who was born in Madrid

31:36

and whose family's from, my family's from

31:38

Galicia. So I was in love with

31:40

it. And the show, we also get

31:42

a special peek into your home in

31:44

Marbella in Spain. And you

31:46

host this dinner for friends. And you've

31:48

said that one of your favorite things

31:50

to do is cook for your friends

31:52

and fellowship with your friends. What's your

31:54

favorite thing to cook? Actually Mexican food. That's

31:58

fair, that's hard in Spain because they have no

32:00

spicy food. They don't like the chili all. No,

32:02

they do not. No, but I love cooking. It's

32:04

very therapeutic for me and so that's why this

32:06

show is like a perfect match for my personality

32:08

because I love to eat, I love to drink,

32:10

and I love to travel. You

32:12

guys are gonna really be, it's beautiful.

32:16

You're gonna wanna go everywhere we went. You're gonna

32:18

wanna do that. You're gonna feel like you

32:20

went with you. We've been talking

32:22

a lot about the Pope's passing yesterday, and

32:24

you got the opportunity to meet with him with

32:26

your husband a few years ago, but also

32:28

you gotta see him again with your sister. Can

32:30

you tell us about that? Yes, yes, well

32:32

first of all, you guys were talking about how

32:34

he really opened up the church to divorce

32:37

people, and my husband and I are both divorced,

32:39

and so we went to meet the Pope. or

32:41

we were about to get married, and so I said,

32:43

well, you, you know, my husband asked, will you bless us?

32:45

And he said, of course, and he holds our hands

32:47

and then he goes, I go, we're divorced. I

32:50

go like I needed it. Confess

32:53

now. Because I didn't know if

32:55

it was like, you know, for Paul, for him to

32:57

bless us, we're divorced and he just That's like a major

32:59

confession. Usually it's a deal. No,

33:01

I really didn't say, like, we're sleeping

33:03

together. It's

33:06

like, okay, just my husband's like,

33:08

let's not use this moment to confess.

33:10

Let him do the blessing. But

33:12

no, my sister, which Anna was

33:14

there, Anna and I saw him at the White House,

33:17

the Pope, because my sister, who has special needs,

33:19

she's my oldest sister. And I said, who do you

33:21

most want to meet in the world? And I

33:23

thought she was gonna say like, George Clooney, which would

33:25

have been doable. And she said the Pope. That

33:28

was like, oh, that was hard. But you know why she

33:30

said, I said, why do you want to meet the Pope? And

33:32

she said, I want him to heal me. And

33:35

so I said, I gotta make it happen. I gotta

33:37

figure it out. I just wanted her to have that moment.

33:39

That was nice of you. So you

33:41

also have a production company that believes

33:43

in growing a pipeline of future talent

33:45

in the entertainment industry. Good for you.

33:48

Diversity, the inclusion initiatives are being stripped away

33:50

as we saw every day from many

33:52

places in the country right now. So have

33:54

you seen it happening in Hollywood and

33:56

how are you fighting against that with your

33:58

production company? Oh yeah, I mean, it's

34:00

not just the media industry, but it's all

34:02

industries. But I think we have to

34:04

remember why was created and

34:06

it was too... correct historical exclusion.

34:08

That's right. Which is not just

34:10

about being Latino and black, it's

34:12

women, it's disabled, a

34:16

lot of LGBTQ plus, it's a

34:18

lot of marginalized communities that never get

34:20

to tell their stories. So correcting that

34:22

historical exclusion and then also authentic. Why

34:24

do think they're doing that? Why do

34:26

you think they're doing that? Well, I

34:28

don't know because it's bad business.

34:31

It's not just a moral imperative. Like

34:33

I do it because it's morally right.

34:35

I want authentic storytelling. I want the

34:37

people who have lived these stories to

34:39

tell them, but we are creating

34:41

programming for the most diverse audience ever

34:43

in the history of the world. And

34:45

so it's not just a moral imperative,

34:47

it's just good business. And at the

34:49

end of the day, I'm a business

34:52

woman, so why wouldn't you wanna

34:54

create for the growing market, not the

34:56

shrinking market? And also, you know, you

34:58

can say it's going away. We're

35:00

not going anywhere. So

35:02

we're going to keep making the movies we

35:05

want to make and telling the stories. And listen,

35:07

if you want to say it's not happening, we'll

35:09

pat your hand and say, okay. Our

35:14

thanks to

35:16

the fabulous Eva

35:18

Longoria, her

35:20

CNN original series,

35:22

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35:24

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35:26

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