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I'm Brian Tetta, executive producer

0:03

of The View. It's

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Monday and I'm here

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with Sarah Haynes. This

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is behind the table.

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We're here with recent

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Hogwarts Acceptance. Newest student,

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prospective student, Sarah

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Haynes. Hello, Sarah.

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Hello, Sarah. Hello,

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Brian. This outfit, I'm

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sorry. It's Giving

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Slitherin. It's giving Hogworks. I've

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gotten that reference a lot, but I'm not a

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huge Harry Potter. I haven't followed everything. It's a

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huge miss, but it is a miss, but I wish

0:36

I could laugh at your jokes. All right, well, I mean, I

0:38

wish you could laugh at your jokes. All right, well, I mean,

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I wish you could laugh at my jokes, too. It's, it's, it's,

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it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I mean, I wish

0:45

you could, I wish you could, I wish you could laugh at

0:47

your jokes. All right, I wish you could, I wish you could, I

0:49

wish you could, I wish you could, I wish you could, I wish

0:51

you could laugh at my jokes. I wish you could laugh at my

0:53

jokes. All right, it, I wish you could, I wish you could, I

0:55

wish you could laugh, I wish you could laugh at my jokes. All

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right, I wish you could laugh, No, I think you'd be

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a huffle puff. That's what I've been

1:02

told. Yes, I think that's right, because

1:04

they believe in fairness and goodness and

1:06

they're very, they're very straightforward. There are

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four schools. There are four schools. Okay.

1:11

Yeah, there's Griffin Door, which is for

1:13

the brave. Huffle Puffel Puff, Huffle Puff,

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which is, no, not Dumble Door. Dumble

1:18

Door is the headmaster of the school.

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Oh, that's right. Ravenclaw, which is very,

1:22

which is very, like, like, like, like,

1:24

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:26

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:29

like, academically oriented. Okay. And slitherin, which

1:31

is more about ambitious and powerful and

1:33

Machiavellian. Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, I think

1:35

I'd be a slitherin. I don't want to be,

1:37

I wish I were a griffin door, but I

1:39

think in fact I would be. I think you

1:41

might. A slitherin. Yeah, maybe. And I know that

1:43

one. Yeah. All right. Well, there you go. There you

1:46

go. Listen, there have been very impressive people

1:48

that came out as Lutheran. All right, let's

1:50

start with some politics. You were one of

1:52

the few people at the table this morning

1:54

that thought that Senator minority leader Chuck Schumer's

1:57

vote for the Republican spending bill was the

1:59

right move. Are you... by the backlash it's

2:01

getting? No, it's very predictable. I think

2:03

I come from the school of resistance

2:05

that believes things are happening as they're

2:07

going to. You know, the Trump administration

2:09

is, I wouldn't say unraveling, but there's

2:11

been pushback. A lot of Republicans can't

2:13

do town halls with their constituents because

2:15

of the yelling and screaming. You've got,

2:17

you know, two dozen court cases against

2:19

Elon Musk and Doge. You're watching all

2:22

of this play out and I don't

2:24

think Chuck Schumer, Senator Schumer, excuse me,

2:26

had a good option, but I can

2:28

tell you what a bad option is,

2:30

a government shutdown. Nobody in the history

2:32

of this country ever looked good shutting

2:34

down the government. It hurts people. And

2:36

by the way, it distracts from what...

2:38

Donald Trump and Doge and all the

2:40

other things they're doing right now. And

2:42

it puts a big old target on

2:44

the Democrats' back. And they're in fighting

2:46

as a result of this, like Hakim

2:48

Jeffrey's kind of shading humor and an

2:51

AOC shade. It's all a bad look,

2:53

and it's because they are not coalescing

2:55

around a common leader, because there's no

2:57

clear leader of the party. And so

2:59

it just ends up. being a mess.

3:01

Yeah, it creates a schism. Yeah, it's

3:03

a schism. But most people that are

3:05

being honest with themselves recognize this was

3:07

the only option for Senator Schumer. And

3:09

if you read a lot of the

3:11

op-eds and everything, every like academic and

3:13

writer is like, this is what he

3:15

had to do. So it's not actually

3:17

on its face controversial unless you want

3:20

to appear as someone who believes your

3:22

resistance is making any movement. It's it's

3:24

fantasy. Yeah, I mean, I think I'm

3:26

excited to have Senator Schumer on tomorrow.

3:28

Yeah, good timing and a lot of,

3:30

he's gonna have to face some tough

3:32

questions here at the table, I think,

3:34

which is good. It's good to have

3:36

those questions asked and answered and we'll

3:38

see where things are. So he's here

3:40

to promote his book. We'll do that

3:42

too, but it's going to be a

3:44

lot of really interesting television, I think.

3:46

So tune in tomorrow, folks. I want

3:49

to go back because you weren't on

3:51

the show last week on the, on

3:53

the, on the, on the, on the,

3:55

behind the, behind the, on the, on

3:57

the, behind the, on the, on the,

3:59

on the, on the, on the, on

4:01

the, on the, week, but you were

4:03

on for a second on a phone

4:05

call because I called you to discuss

4:07

during Joy's podcast. You tricked me. Well,

4:09

I tricked you and I'm sorry about

4:11

that, but whether or not you would

4:13

go to space because Joy thought you

4:15

would and we called and checked and

4:18

it turns out yes, you would go

4:20

on the blue origin flight. Okay, so

4:22

the context for that is I don't

4:24

think my husband would let me do

4:26

that. Right. And he has been the

4:28

voice of reason in regards to my

4:30

responsibilities as a parent. The risks I

4:32

took before I had kids need to

4:34

look different from the risks I take

4:36

now that I have kids. Right. You

4:38

know, just to be honest though, Max

4:40

is completely risk averse. He's a lawyer.

4:42

Sure. So he's got that going, but

4:44

he's probably right on this point. Did

4:47

you ask him? I said once around

4:49

the mic when Michael Strahan went up,

4:51

I think we were eating dinner with

4:53

him or something and he asked if

4:55

I ever would in my first reaction

4:57

was, yeah, I think that. would be

4:59

really cool because that's more in line

5:01

with me. Right. But so many things

5:03

I've done that are risky is not

5:05

because I'm an adrenaline junkie like Anna

5:07

Navarro likes to go swim with sharks.

5:09

Right. I'm not a willing participant in

5:11

adrenaline activities but it's almost like because

5:13

I'm scared of it it makes me

5:16

think when an opportunity presents itself it's

5:18

more reason to say yes, just do

5:20

it. Yeah. So one of the great

5:22

things about working in television is is

5:24

really no experience that's off the table

5:26

just by the nature of what we

5:28

do. So it's not. out of the

5:30

question that this could be a possibility

5:32

for you or for me even. I

5:34

mean, it would be really fun to

5:36

go up with you and like film

5:38

it. I think that'd be really cool.

5:40

It would be cool. Again, I really

5:42

think my husband would never let it

5:45

happen. But to be able to do

5:47

that in a lifetime, to be able

5:49

to say you did that, to have

5:51

this experience that is so rare few,

5:53

especially regular people, not astronauts ever have.

5:55

I mean, if Katie Perry and Gail

5:57

King are doing it, I feel like

5:59

that. to take it and you've mentioned

6:01

you skydove on the show I've gone

6:03

skydiving I've um Come down a building.

6:05

What is it called when you repel

6:07

repel repel down the highest building in

6:09

Jersey? For hot a copy when she

6:11

was dealing with cancer. I have paraglided

6:14

I've bungee jumped a bunch Now you've

6:16

got undercover in Hogwarts. Oh, I've been

6:18

in in NASCARs and raced and Yeah,

6:20

all this before children Yeah, well, I

6:22

was pregnant with one of them when

6:24

I did that NASCAR thing. That was

6:26

probably not a good idea. But no

6:28

one knew. Yeah, all right. Which is

6:30

why I was allowed to. All right.

6:32

All right. This sort of relates. But

6:34

beauty influencer Jacqueline Hill said in a

6:36

recent social media video that she knows

6:38

you're not supposed to live with regret,

6:40

but she does. Yeah. Can you relate

6:43

to this? Is there anything you look

6:45

back on with regret or are you

6:47

a firm believer that everything happens? fully

6:49

believe you have choices in life and

6:51

you're going to regret some of them.

6:53

I always say my biggest regret is

6:55

how much time I wasted thinking about

6:57

my body. When you look at how

6:59

much you like judge a day based

7:01

on what you consume or don't consume,

7:03

whether it was a good day, you

7:05

know, that kind of wrestling with yourself

7:07

and your kind of punish self-punishment with

7:09

food and binge, all the different things

7:12

that kept me way over my natural

7:14

weight for probably years and years and

7:16

years. The second I kind of learned

7:18

and got past it was when my

7:20

body just settled into its place and

7:22

I'm like, oh my God, the answer

7:24

was right on the other side of

7:26

that. But I look back and I

7:28

gave away the blessing of a day,

7:30

which every day is a gift. over

7:32

and over again based on maybe eating

7:34

something crappy at 10 in the morning

7:36

and the rest of the day was

7:38

a loss. I look at how much

7:41

time I then spent obsessing about that

7:43

day, plans, whether I went out, whether

7:45

I showed up, because I didn't feel

7:47

I looked good, wiped out full chapters

7:49

of my life. Like if I could

7:51

tell someone that it would help to

7:53

avoid that loss, I would give it

7:55

away as much as I could. That's

7:57

one regret. life and things you've made

7:59

jobs people I don't I really don't

8:01

regret that's great that's a great feeling

8:03

yeah well mainly because with everything that

8:05

comes along it's it's easy to regret

8:07

it at first or to say I

8:09

shouldn't have and then you look back

8:12

at what you knew at the time

8:14

what you gained from a stumble or

8:16

a rough chapter and it got you

8:18

to where you are. So it's not

8:20

that I think it all happened for

8:22

a reason, but I do think that

8:24

in my case, the things I've chosen

8:26

have been more beneficial than not. All

8:28

right, I like that. That's a nice

8:30

place to be. I think that's a

8:32

nice place to be. I think you

8:34

have to look back and feel like

8:36

this is what I was supposed to

8:38

be. But every day is a new

8:41

shot to regret something. I do. being

8:43

criticized for her body by tabloids and

8:45

things like that being on TV every

8:47

day is that something you could relate

8:49

to? Oh absolutely more so in the

8:51

earlier days right not because it stops

8:53

getting critical the way people criticize women

8:55

is all about is she pregnant like

8:57

that's their way of saying yeah you

8:59

got a lot of that it's not

9:01

a and by the way it's not

9:03

a complement no matter what their intention

9:05

is yeah just comes out shady I

9:07

found that any one of a certain

9:10

age on the view gets that Yeah.

9:12

Unrelentingly, it happens to Alyssa all the

9:14

time. I remember it happened to Abby

9:16

before she had children, after she had

9:18

children. It just is all the time.

9:20

I just don't get, there's no part

9:22

of me that walks around my days

9:24

hoping that I guess right that someone's

9:26

pregnant. Like, it just doesn't do it

9:28

for me. There's not one ounce of

9:30

me that has that kind of time,

9:32

care, obsession, distraction, you name it. But

9:34

there are people. and they come in

9:36

all shapes and forms that walk around

9:39

thinking they're getting a cookie or a

9:41

trophy. If they break the news. If

9:43

they guess it. Yeah. And I'm kind

9:45

of like, tell me more because I

9:47

don't get you. I'm so oblivious. I

9:49

mean, honestly, Abby Huntsman was showing with

9:51

twins before I had any idea and

9:53

when she told me I was still

9:55

surprised. I mean, it's really, I'm the

9:57

worst about it. I also am not.

9:59

I'm not the guy that notices engagement

10:01

rings or wedding rings on. Yeah, I

10:03

miss everything. But I love, I don't

10:05

ask anyone, are you engaged? I wait

10:08

for them to start crying and telling

10:10

their stories, which are fun. Yeah, but

10:12

that's also something you deal with. I

10:14

know when you're not wearing your wedding

10:16

ring, people notice it. And I also

10:18

don't wear my health ring because the

10:20

same thing happened on this hand. That

10:22

same. Rash is killing me. Oh, I'm

10:24

sorry. Yeah. Yeah, but that's a thing

10:26

every time you don't wear your wedding

10:28

wedding ring this trouble in the Haynes

10:30

marriage Yeah, as if like the ring

10:32

was the major symbol of all things

10:34

not the fact that I go home

10:37

and we navigate three children and we

10:39

sleep side by side and we Pay

10:41

bills and we do all thing. It's

10:43

the ring. It's the ring. It's always

10:45

the ring. Yeah. All right. I want

10:47

to call you to the carpet on

10:49

something which I always enjoy Oh shoot.

10:51

It drove me crazy. You said something.

10:53

No, I know. Because you're supposed to

10:55

be pop culture, girl. I got, I

10:57

get roughly close. It's a range. You

10:59

at one point, we're in charge of

11:01

pop news on GMA. I know. Okay.

11:03

Well, hire anyone. I mean, it's crazy.

11:06

I was also a tech contributor on

11:08

the Today Show. Yes, I remember. Yeah.

11:10

And my brother's famous quote was, do

11:12

they know that you once hit an

11:14

alarm clock that you didn't an alarm

11:16

clock that you didn't know how to

11:18

turn off to turn off to turn

11:20

off to turn off in your the

11:22

title, tech contributor. All right, but what

11:24

was my point? All right, so you

11:26

talked about back to the future and

11:28

you said, well, in 1983, first of

11:30

all, everyone knows back to the future

11:32

was in 1985. Yes. Everyone knows it.

11:35

The whole plot of the movie is

11:37

we have to go, they go back

11:39

to the night, remember, November 5th, 1955.

11:41

I mean, that's a huge thing. I

11:43

know. And then you said Biff was

11:45

based on, uh, Tom of Trump. Back

11:47

to the future too. Back to the

11:49

future too. Back to the future too,

11:51

which came out in 1989, and it

11:53

was when he owns a casino and

11:55

things like that he's the feature and

11:57

he has a casino. He's still a

11:59

bully. I just wanted to make a

12:01

note, you know. If you're going to

12:04

go there, I know that was so

12:06

wrong. You have not stopped trolling me.

12:08

What makes me laugh is you never

12:10

hesitate to jump in on the show.

12:12

Yes. You could have said, you have

12:14

a camera on your face. It was

12:16

1985. You could have jumped in and

12:18

you held back that moment. Well, you

12:20

know, we were running out of time,

12:22

which is always a concern for me.

12:24

And then, you know, I also later

12:26

on had to jump. You're spinning right

12:28

now. I had to jump in on

12:30

the. on making sure the audience knew

12:33

that our producer Vicky wasn't a furry

12:35

on the weekend view. Yeah, but that

12:37

was later. So what was your excuse

12:39

on Friday? Because you knew that was

12:41

coming? No, I just, you know, I

12:43

like to pick my moments. All right,

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enjoy. She's talked about how to doing

14:29

something different than Gray's made her nervous

14:31

because she wasn't sure people could see

14:34

her as anybody other than Meredith Gray.

14:36

You started the show almost a decade

14:38

ago, which is crazy, by the way.

14:40

Do you ever feel that it makes

14:42

up a lot of your identity? Well,

14:44

I think in the best way. It's

14:46

almost like the opposite of what she

14:49

said. the range because of how it

14:51

was designed and how it flourishes is

14:53

that we go from politics at the

14:55

top to furries at the back. Like,

14:57

you know, we've got all the things,

14:59

but what I mean is like, that

15:01

is me. And what always blew my

15:03

mind is I was always in pop

15:06

news and lifestyle. And there were times

15:08

where even people that knew me well,

15:10

like a Dan Harris who I worked

15:12

with, who I revered and thought was

15:14

amazing. I remember a couple of times.

15:16

you did a good job. And I

15:18

remember thinking, oh my God, if people

15:21

that know me don't even realize I

15:23

can do that, it just almost further

15:25

recognizes that internal voice of maybe I

15:27

am only one thing. And the view

15:29

gave me the range and it's what

15:31

I missed when I left was typically

15:33

the jobs you get are a little

15:36

more one box, one note. You don't

15:38

often get a range of your opportunities.

15:40

It's kind of like. a lot of

15:42

actors. You'll see them in series roles

15:44

or as Meredith Gray where they become

15:46

the part and then no one wants

15:48

to see them over here. The view

15:50

gave me the chance to be in

15:53

all the places at once and people

15:55

say... You really don't have a choice

15:57

on this show. You don't. Yeah, you

15:59

can't survive here if you're not a

16:01

multifaceted person. No, and so this was

16:03

a job where the very title... of

16:05

being a co-host on the view is

16:08

you can do a lot of different

16:10

things or you better be able to

16:12

right you won't last long otherwise speaking

16:14

of the view there's this emergency contact

16:16

trend that's going around yes it's all

16:18

over social media who would you be

16:20

your emergency contact out of your fellow

16:23

view coach okay so whoopi because she

16:25

will be at home like yeah she'll

16:27

be available like she's not going to

16:29

be partying in Miami she's going to

16:31

be at home Joy would either purposely

16:33

screen or pick up the phone yelling

16:35

at me. So I just don't feel

16:38

that's comforting in a moment of crisis.

16:40

So I'm going with Whoopi and then

16:42

Alyssa. because Elissa is responsible. You might

16:44

need a lawyer, I'm just throwing it

16:46

out there. Between Anna and Sunny, I

16:48

can't decide who parties more. Yeah, those

16:50

girls are not gonna be. They might

16:52

be not in a position to help

16:55

you. It's literally like my OBGYN when

16:57

I had Alec. He got called, she's

16:59

in labor and he said, I'm in

17:01

Miami drunk. I was like, don't come

17:03

back, we're fine, we'll get someone sober

17:05

to do this. Usually has access. She's

17:07

usually around someone that has a private

17:10

plane you can get in a pinch,

17:12

which is nice to have depending on

17:14

the emergency. Yeah, but do you think

17:16

my name's gonna blow up her phone?

17:18

She's gonna be like definitely taking this

17:20

call. I think she would. She's got

17:22

a good phone. She's got a good

17:25

phone. Yeah, Longoria. Yeah. Gloria Estefan. But

17:27

these people, she has access. She could

17:29

help you. I voted against Chachah. In

17:31

a. decision that left me with Sunny

17:33

Austin all over her yeah she's waiting

17:35

for revenge yeah she's waiting for revenge

17:37

yeah she would yes no whoopie's the

17:39

one who's most likely to come through

17:42

in a pinch no we'll be on

17:44

so many levels would be there for

17:46

me but she definitely at home just

17:48

and she will pick up fair enough

17:50

fair enough all right one more pop

17:52

culture topic we talked about love is

17:54

blind last week where two of the

17:57

women dumped their fiance's because of the

17:59

men's lack of passion when it came

18:01

to political issues. Now, I heard that

18:03

you quizzed Max very early in your

18:05

relationship. The two of you debate how

18:07

topics more than the people at the

18:09

view do. It's bizarre to me. That's

18:12

how you spend your spare time. But

18:14

I get it. Well, and Max is

18:16

like, now I can say this, you

18:18

know, 10 years into marriage, 12 years

18:20

into being with him. He has a

18:22

special life skill of being able to

18:24

talk about almost anything no matter how

18:26

emotional with the same. methodical, deliberate nature.

18:29

It's for him, it's being a lawyer.

18:31

It's the opposite of you. Yes, and

18:33

that leads me to my conversation I

18:35

was having. So we're walking down the

18:37

street and it kind of hit me

18:39

as my, we weren't engaged yet. I

18:41

think we were living together at the

18:44

time and I thought, this man doesn't

18:46

get. worked up about anything. Like, so

18:48

he clearly has no passion. That was

18:50

my, how I got to there. So

18:52

I asked him, what are you passionate

18:54

about? Like, what's your cause? Like, if

18:56

there's a hill you're gonna die on,

18:59

what is it? You know, and I

19:01

could rattle off a thousand things from

19:03

not only animals and dogs, but Chihuahua

19:05

specifically, the ocean, sick kids, people that

19:07

don't have money, like you name it.

19:09

And I had so many and Max's

19:11

like kind of. freezing up and he's

19:13

like, uh, like I don't quite know

19:16

what you're doing. What I didn't realize

19:18

is I was kind of looking for

19:20

the same emotional output I had and

19:22

Max was never going to give me

19:24

that. So it, I had jumped to,

19:26

then he must not have it. What

19:28

I didn't realize is it would present

19:31

itself differently. The energy of my, what

19:33

is your passion was what shuts him

19:35

down. Right. And he was literally looked

19:37

fetal and kind of shaky and kind

19:39

of shaky as I attacked him. and

19:41

but it just didn't look the way

19:43

I thought it would right fetal and

19:46

shaky fetal and shaky in the corner

19:48

then a little bit later you got

19:50

engaged we got engaged out of that

19:52

well it's a complementary relationship and and

19:54

it works that way yeah he's like

19:56

the zen Buddha over there. Yeah, and

19:58

I just I what I don't get

20:00

is because I've been out to dinner

20:03

with you guys. I've been you just

20:05

you enjoy doing hot topics all the

20:07

time. Okay, so full disclosure, I get

20:09

paid to do hot topics. I don't

20:11

really need to do it for fun.

20:13

I like to read a book. Yeah,

20:15

I love to play volleyball and basketball.

20:18

Yoga. He loves the art of conversation.

20:20

The disagreement, the debate, the It's again,

20:22

it's what drove him to be a

20:24

lawyer. Right, it makes sense. He wants

20:26

to have the conversation, not for the

20:28

spirit of the conversation, but for the

20:30

art and layout of the conversation making

20:33

a point countering and he never loses

20:35

his mind. He never gets worked up.

20:37

Right. So we'll end on some of

20:39

these issues and I'm like, you can't

20:41

handle this conversation. I'm like, most people

20:43

can. handle this conversation because it gets

20:45

so personal. It's a gift. I love

20:47

it. It's good. All right. Well, that's

20:50

I'm glad you found each other. All

20:52

right. That's all the time we have

20:54

for today. Thank you for joining me

20:56

today. Sarah Haynes tomorrow. I'll be back

20:58

with joy. Joy. Always fun. And I'll

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