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behind the table with the one and only

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the icon, Joy Behar. Don't overblow it. You

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don't like icon? No, it's not bad. I

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wouldn't mind it if it was true. Oh,

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I think it's true. Then

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my friend Bernadette didn't close a hiatus. She

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calls it a hi anus Yeah, you got

0:53

like a colonoscopy or

0:55

something. Um, how was your

0:57

week off joy? Well,

1:00

you know, I feel that

1:02

flying to Miami or flying

1:04

to the Bahamas Which is all

1:06

what you all did came in and

1:08

all this other to me That is a

1:10

waste of time. Yes, because what

1:12

I like on a vacation is a

1:14

spa treatment. Mm -hmm good food.

1:16

Mm -hmm and Blackjack. And

1:19

I want to sit on a beach.

1:21

All it does is give you skin cancer. So

1:23

that to me, so I

1:25

went to Fox Woods. Okay. You

1:28

know, people always remark about how young you look all the

1:30

time. Do you think part of that has been avoiding sitting

1:32

on beaches your life? Oh, yeah. I mean, my skin,

1:34

I hate the beach. Yeah. I don't like to

1:37

sit on the sand. What is the point of

1:39

sitting on sand? We've known each other

1:41

for 10 years now about, and what

1:43

I think in that time, you've planned

1:45

and canceled at least 20 to 30

1:47

beach vacations in the time that I've

1:49

known you. Yes, you've petitioned to have

1:51

time off, you've booked something you've asked

1:53

about restaurants you've gotten right to it and then you

1:55

said I didn't go I didn't feel like it

1:57

I didn't want to do it I like Puerto

1:59

Rico because Puerto Rico has casinos yes I

2:01

like a casino too I'm right there with you

2:03

the Bahamas has a casino yeah you didn't

2:05

love our Bahamas trip you accused me of working

2:07

you too hard I was working I wasn't

2:09

really on vacation no you did You didn't play

2:11

cards, we did that. The people I know

2:13

say they like, I asked, what did you do?

2:15

I read. That's what I did. And

2:17

that's what they did. They basically had kids

2:20

with their children. Right. That's my trip too. And

2:22

I went to the Bahamas, I went back

2:24

to Bahamar and. But it was, it's

2:26

relaxing. I don't know, it's restorative. There were people

2:28

who were very upset that we were on vacation.

2:30

The social media people and stuff like What are

2:32

we supposed to always work 24 seven? Well, they're

2:34

mad that we didn't announce it beforehand, apparently, which

2:36

by the way, if you listen to the podcast,

2:38

we did announce it. So if you want to

2:40

be on in the know, come behind the table.

2:42

All right. But also, why am I going to

2:45

announce it and have people not tune in? Tune

2:47

in. Were we

2:49

on tape last week? Yeah, we were on tape

2:51

last week. All right. But we need we

2:53

need the week to get the level of view.

2:55

Quality that the people at home expect you

2:57

guys need a break every once in a while.

2:59

You asked me why I look younger Yes,

3:01

I think I'm still in metaphors. Is that what

3:03

it is? Well, I still have hot flashes

3:05

that I mean it's been like 30 years the

3:07

temperatures at the table I mean I've literally

3:09

had recently Half the table complained about it being

3:12

too hot and half the table complained about

3:14

it being too cold in the same episode They

3:16

both, everyone comes to me. Can you have

3:18

them turn the heat up? Can you have turn

3:20

on? Well, I don't know their exact ages,

3:22

but they're certainly, some of them are approaching menopause.

3:24

And that's called perimenopause. And that you get

3:26

these flashes, say, but I should not have them

3:28

at my age. No, I have to lie

3:30

to everybody and tell them I'm fixing the temperature.

3:32

We're not really doing anything because you all

3:34

want different things. I'm telling you, but this is

3:36

what happens on a woman's show. If you

3:39

don't want hot flashes, just put men on the

3:41

panel. Yeah, fair. No one would watch. All

3:43

right. Pope Francis passed away

3:45

yesterday morning. This is very sad, but he

3:47

lived a wonderful life. How do you think

3:49

he'll be remembered? Well, we talked

3:51

about it today. I think that he'll be

3:53

remembered as somebody who really championed immigration. That

3:56

was his main thing. And

3:58

also, he was pretty liberal about

4:00

gay issues considering the church, which

4:02

has plenty of homosexuals in the

4:05

church. We know. They

4:07

even admitted this, basically. They're

4:09

gay nuns and

4:11

priests. You know, it's like he

4:13

said, I don't want to judge it. And

4:15

I thought that was very nice of him. The

4:17

Pope told Whoopi, which he repeated today, that

4:19

we all need to laugh more. That's important to

4:21

him. Are you OK? So hot. Can we

4:24

get her some ice? No, I just need a

4:26

fan. Does anyone have a fan? And

4:28

not just somebody it. We can do the ice

4:30

bucket challenge or something. We can do the. I

4:32

mean, I'm stretching my upper lip is. You look

4:34

fantastic. I don't have to go out tonight. This

4:36

is a view host trait. I have to say,

4:38

for the most part. All of

4:40

you guys committing to something is like 80 -20 that

4:42

you're going to be there at best, I think.

4:44

Yeah. Yeah. Well, because the job, believe it or

4:47

not, is very stressful this job. It is. And

4:49

so you need to take it easy. I don't

4:51

like to go out that much at night except

4:53

for dinner. I like to go out for dinner.

4:55

Yes. But this event that we're talking about, I

4:57

have to like interact. No, you don't

4:59

like interacting. No, you do that for

5:01

a living. It's a lot. It's true. Yeah, I understand. All

5:04

right. Another thing that happened over our

5:06

break. There was this blue origin spaceship

5:08

flight that went up. You and I talked about

5:10

this before it happened. Oh, with Gail King. Gail

5:12

King and Katy Perry. Katy Perry. They take a

5:14

lot of growth for that. They are. It was

5:16

Gail King, Katy Perry, and Lauren Sanchez, and

5:18

among others, Amanda Nguyen, who's

5:21

a civil rights activist and an astronaut,

5:23

and also now the first Vietnamese woman

5:25

to fly to space. What are they

5:27

so mad about? They'd be just being

5:29

mocked online by many, many people, including

5:31

other celebrities. Basically, I guess,

5:33

the idea that, why did this need to

5:35

happen? People are struggling with this economy, things

5:37

like that. Why are we sending Katy Perry

5:39

to space? Seems to be the... the takeaway.

5:41

I don't know that one thing has to

5:43

do with the other. Yeah. If you send

5:45

Katie Perry to space, that doesn't make it

5:47

easier for people to buy eggs exactly. No,

5:49

it doesn't necessarily. But I think it's not

5:51

relatable is the idea that, you know, people

5:53

waste their time criticizing somebody like Gail King

5:55

because she decided she wants an adventure. She's

5:58

not a kid anymore. You know, she has

6:00

a bucket list. The thing came up and

6:02

she went up there. Is it because it's

6:04

Bezos? Then I would understand it. It could

6:06

be that. I mean, Just didn't you say

6:08

it was crazy that she was going up

6:10

there? No, I would say I would not

6:12

do it. Oh, okay. I have a little

6:14

claustrophobia. At the time you said that Gail

6:16

should not go up because she was clearly

6:18

afraid. Right. Yeah. And nothing to do with

6:20

the judgment about any of it. Right. At

6:22

any of it. It's just that I personally

6:24

would never go up in a spaceship. The

6:26

fact that it was an all -female flight,

6:28

I think, bothered people too. And they were

6:30

calling them a crew. And they were in

6:32

astronauts. They were not astronauts. You're not technically

6:34

an astronaut, I guess, if you go up

6:36

for 11 minutes and come back down. Well,

6:38

maybe, I don't know. Astro means

6:40

stars. And N -A -U

6:42

-T. What does that mean? I

6:44

don't know. I have not a clue. No,

6:46

what a clue, huh? It's bad enough. I'm a

6:49

little tired today. I'm a little tired too, but we

6:51

just came back from a vacation. I know, but

6:53

it doesn't matter. I don't sleep at night. I understand.

6:55

Take me through your night of sleep. What happens? I

6:58

fall asleep watching television. Maybe that's a

7:00

mistake. Maybe the TV should be off.

7:03

The TV puts me to sleep. Does it

7:05

like resonate in your subconscious? sound in

7:07

the background because otherwise I could ruminate and

7:10

catastrophize. Right. Bad things could happen, and

7:12

my mind will take charge. So when I

7:14

hear the back of, bum, bum, law

7:16

and order, that's why I watch people talk.

7:18

Well, you're going to sleep when people

7:20

are being attacked and kidnapped. Now, basically, they're

7:22

lawyers talking, and they're boring. But I

7:24

love law and order, by the way. When

7:27

you are cruising down the channels on

7:29

television without streaming services, there is very little

7:31

to actually watch as far as I

7:33

can tell. Yes. Law and order is always

7:35

on an SVU. They're always on I

7:37

will say the baseline. There's not a bad

7:39

law and order episode all just they're

7:41

all good. They're all good that that dick

7:44

wolf came up with a brilliant idea

7:46

They even do it. They copied it in

7:48

London in England. I mean, it's a

7:50

very good show Yeah, so when I was

7:52

on vacation, this is interesting because I

7:54

normally I sleep pretty well I go to

7:56

sleep without trying very hard but on

7:58

vacation I had horrible dreams

8:01

every single night. Why? Stress dreams. I have no

8:03

idea why. Because you're away from home. Is that

8:05

what it is? Yeah. I'm with my family. It

8:07

should be fine. I woke, I had work stress

8:09

dreams. I had, I don't know, maybe I

8:11

just was letting my subconscious You're giving yourself time

8:13

to obsess about your job. I guess so. Yeah.

8:15

I don't go to sleep thinking about it, but

8:17

throughout the night, I would wake up in a

8:19

panic. Well, see, this is the

8:21

problem. That's why we're tired because you

8:23

haven't gotten your REM sleep. Yes. Ava

8:26

Longoria was on the show today, and

8:28

she celebrated her 50th birthday, and she

8:30

said that her 20s, 30s, and 40s

8:32

were about saying yes, but her 50s

8:34

are about saying no and curating her

8:36

life to things that matter. Do

8:38

you agree with this? Because you have often said

8:40

that in a lot of ways, your life started at

8:42

40. I mean, you really... Well, my life got

8:44

a little bit more interesting, although I wouldn't say. You

8:46

know, the other day, I was thinking about my

8:48

first husband. Because, you know, I

8:50

have this show, My First Ex Husband.

8:52

Really? And it's in the last cycle

8:54

now. How do you not mention this?

8:56

It's going to May 18. We have

8:58

Mary Lou Henner. We have Marsha Mason.

9:00

We have a Benja K. Thomas, I

9:02

believe, honey. And we have Sweeney, Julia

9:04

Sweeney. Sweeney, yeah. What a great cast.

9:07

That's a great cast. They were all

9:09

reading monologues that I wrote based on

9:11

interviews that I did. And I

9:13

was thinking, why don't I have my

9:15

first husband in there? You know?

9:17

What's the answer? The answer, I think,

9:19

is that... don't think it was that interesting,

9:21

a divorce or a marriage. I think

9:23

it just went along. But I

9:25

have fond memories of him, though. Like, today

9:27

I was thinking about when we would be

9:29

at Coles in Rhode Island when we lived

9:31

there. Sure. And they play music. And he

9:33

and I would start dancing in the floor

9:35

at Coles. That's lovely. I know. And

9:38

he and I, he's very political,

9:40

very smart. He turned me on

9:42

to politics in college. And that's how

9:44

I became this political... Does Steve ever take

9:46

you dancing in department stores? Steve and

9:48

I do a mean Lindy. Alright, well, there

9:50

you go. My husband's a good dancer.

9:52

Would you say you're actually friends with your

9:54

ex -husband now? Oh, yeah. Would you ever

9:56

call him just to chat? No. But

9:59

I'm into him a little bit on texting.

10:01

Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right, you send him.

10:03

I haven't spoken to him yet. I think

10:05

that this Trump administration must be driving him

10:07

crazy because he's a good. Have you come

10:09

to see my first ex -husband? Has he stayed

10:11

away? He said he saw my daughter. He

10:13

said, am I in it? And

10:15

she said, no, not yet. So that Mary Lou

10:17

Henner, now she is famous for having the

10:19

photographic memory. Does this come up when you talk

10:21

to her about your show? Well, when I

10:23

interviewed her, I had like about 50 pages of

10:25

material. Right, I would imagine. See, this is

10:27

the challenge of my show. I have to take

10:29

50 pages and make it into a five

10:32

minute monologue or a 10 minute monologue. and I

10:34

have to add and subtract and change this

10:36

and what have you and make them funnier. One

10:38

of the announcements that became official during the

10:40

break was Whoopi Goldberg is going to be on

10:42

your show. Whoopi's coming on a week from

10:44

tomorrow, the matinee. a one night only performance. It's

10:46

sold out already. Yeah, but it's exciting. Yeah.

10:48

That'll be fun. I'm thrilled to have her. Yeah,

10:50

that'll be great. Two of us will be

10:52

up there. People will get lucky to see the

10:54

two of you together. That's pretty much rarefied

10:56

air. I know. I'm very

10:58

happy that she's doing it. Me too. And

11:00

then I'm doing two other matinees after that.

11:02

All right. So with, with these girls Mary

11:04

Lou and Marsha Mason, et cetera, et cetera.

11:06

Well, you love your matinees? Just two matinees.

11:08

You know, my, I'm gonna tell you that

11:10

story of my mother. Many times. That's what

11:12

I was saying. My mother, a father loves

11:15

his matinees. Yes. Like, like father

11:17

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no such thing as TMI here in KidNation.

12:43

That sucked a toe in my day. I'd

12:45

pop out with frosting on my nipples. My

12:47

husband loves... Joy

12:51

said in a panel interview that you need

12:53

to find the gold in your interviews. Yes. Is

12:56

this person going to be doing interviews?

12:58

Apparently. I'm curious if Joy can impart more

13:00

about her process of finding the gold.

13:02

Is there a magic formula? Well,

13:04

a monologue is the same as

13:06

a short story. It has an arc.

13:09

It has a protagonist. It has

13:11

an obstacle. It has an antagonist. And

13:13

it has a solution. It's

13:15

the same structure as any short story or

13:17

novel or play any any artistic endeavor has

13:19

the same elements So that's what you have

13:21

to aim for and you have to rewrite

13:23

a couple of times You know, but when

13:25

you're trying to talk to people and you're

13:27

interviewing them basically what you've done for I

13:29

let them go I let them talk and

13:31

talk and talk and then sometimes I'll I

13:33

ask questions I get involved a little bit

13:35

like them would happen and like that Yeah,

13:37

do you like interviewing people? Yeah, I do.

13:39

I'm very nosy You're genuinely curious, which I

13:41

think is curious. You could say curious or

13:43

nosy, but I do like to interview people.

13:45

Yeah. Like when you have celebrities that are

13:47

even political people, especially who are on the

13:49

show, I have a million things I could

13:52

ask. I know. Sometimes you do ask them

13:54

a million things. I know. Another

13:56

thing you this person asked, Guppy asked

13:58

is, would you ever consider teaching

14:00

playwriting in Manhattan? No. You

14:02

wouldn't do like a seminar or a masterclass or

14:04

anything like that? You know what?

14:06

I have an idea to teach stand -up comedy.

14:08

Oh, that's great. Because I didn't know a

14:10

lot about that. Yes, you do. I've had

14:13

35 years of that. Playwriting, I'm new at

14:15

that. So I trust other people to do

14:17

that. We have another question from someone in

14:19

New York. I was on TikTok just

14:21

now and I saw a clip of Joy

14:23

hosting the Mob Wives reunion. Oh, yeah. That was

14:25

several years ago. It was the funniest thing

14:27

in the world. My question is, how did this

14:29

opportunity come about and what memories do you

14:31

have from that experience? I don't know how it

14:33

came about. They just asked me to do

14:35

it. And I had not really watched the show

14:37

previous to that, but then I started boning

14:39

up and I watched it a little bit. And,

14:42

you know, those women were hostile a little

14:44

bit towards each other. They would get into

14:46

arguments and I was sitting there. I thought

14:48

one of them would hit me, maybe by

14:50

mistake. But, you know,

14:52

I get those women. I grew

14:55

up with women like that, whether

14:57

they were my actual mob wives.

14:59

No, this is not necessarily, but

15:01

they were that Style of female. Yeah,

15:03

sure of an Italian neighborhood. No, I mean if

15:05

you know even watching the Sopranos you think

15:08

about people you grew up with that had nothing

15:10

to do with the mafia But they have

15:12

certain affectations. I think that feels that's right. You

15:14

ever see on On the tiktok or whatever.

15:16

Yeah, these little Italian kids talking. Mm -hmm. They're

15:18

hilarious. Yeah, just like their mothers. Yes Little kids

15:20

like that. Yeah, I used to work on

15:22

other talk shows and we just have to pitch

15:24

Topics all the time right it was the

15:26

most stressful thing in the world because they would

15:28

tell you they would tell you come in

15:30

on Monday and pitch 10 ideas that have never

15:32

been seen on a daytime talk show before

15:35

oh my god So I'd be freaking out and

15:37

this is back in the day before the

15:39

internet. I'm looking at magazines and ripping out interviews

15:41

Yeah, and I had nothing and everything I

15:43

was pitching was falling flat and then I said

15:45

mob wives will do an in -depth thing on

15:47

mob wives and he said the executive producer

15:49

said great Do it for Thursday. And I had

15:51

no idea how the hell to find mob

15:53

wives. It was awful. was a disaster. to book

15:55

it? I had to book it. I had

15:57

to book it, put it together, do the whole

16:00

thing by myself in like four days. It

16:02

was a nightmare. So you spoke too soon. I

16:04

spoke too soon. What did you do? Did

16:06

you go to Staten Island and find a couple?

16:08

I made some phone calls in the news

16:10

and found people with the last names that What

16:12

makes you think that a woman who's married

16:14

to a mobster wants to reveal that? They generally

16:16

don't, but I got women in this show

16:18

that they're talking about? Were they real wives? I

16:20

think so, yeah. They were real mob wives. Yeah,

16:24

I mean it's they should bring that

16:26

back. It was a fun show. It was

16:28

a fun show All right, we have

16:30

one more question from Yolanda in Scotland Yolanda

16:32

in Scotland the behind the table is

16:34

a huge deal worldwide I'm telling you the

16:36

the bright guys the joy boys. They're

16:38

everywhere All right Yolanda says joy. I'm your

16:40

biggest gay fan from Scotland You said

16:43

that you know one of the Real Housewives

16:45

Countess Luann personally as someone who is

16:47

just as obsessed with the housewives as I

16:49

am with the view, can you tell

16:51

us how you met? How did you meet

16:53

Countess Luann? The Countess Luann? Yes. I

16:55

think she was on the view. Oh, is

16:57

that how you met her? think that's

16:59

how I met her. Okay. And I run

17:01

into her sometimes in, out in, island.

17:03

On my island, yeah. I run into her

17:05

and I always say, the Countess is

17:07

here. She's, yeah, that's all. It's not like

17:09

I'm on phone with her. No. But

17:11

we're friends, I guess. Who do you talk

17:13

to more often, your ex -husband or Countess

17:15

Luann? Countess Luann. Okay, where do

17:17

you go? That's a good question. Thank

17:19

you. See now would you ever be on a

17:22

show like that? Would you ever do a housewife show

17:24

or something like that? Look, I can

17:26

talk about anything with women in particular,

17:28

even with guys. I like a conversation.

17:30

You know, some people don't know how to

17:33

have a conversation. Right. This is what a

17:35

conversation is. I talk, you listen. You talk,

17:37

I listen. Yeah. That's what a conversation is,

17:39

okay? And then you keep going until the

17:41

conversation gets better. Now, the mob -wise, we get

17:43

mad at each other. Yes. That could happen.

17:45

And I think on some of these Housewives

17:47

shows, they do get angry with other. Yeah,

17:49

I have a lot of empathy and admiration

17:51

for Andy Cohen when he asked to referee

17:53

those reunion episodes. Oh, he loves it. Are

17:55

you kidding? He lives for that. There

17:57

are a few people that know my pain. The

18:00

difference between me and Andy Cohen is they can't

18:02

get his phone number. He's

18:04

smart. I see. So you identify with Andy.

18:06

I identify with Andy Cohen as a much lower

18:08

level. Yeah, yeah. He's also making more money

18:10

than you. Yes, I'm sure. For sure. But

18:12

I think that, well, you know, in his last book,

18:15

he said that he wanted to be the EP of The

18:17

View, and he had a dream about it, which I

18:19

didn't love that, because frankly, I'm pretty sure they'd give it

18:21

to him if he wanted it. But

18:23

yeah, but I mean, we watch those reunion

18:25

episodes and things like that. I think about it

18:27

because, you know, we've got that big anniversary

18:29

coming in a couple of years. What if we

18:31

just did a giant reunion episode? What are

18:33

we up on? We're up on 28 now. Yeah.

18:35

What's starting in September? That's 29. Yes. Oh.

18:37

And then 30. And then 30.

18:39

Uh -huh. a long time. My

18:41

husband, we're married. How many years

18:43

am I married? 2011. Why would I know?

18:45

2011. How many years that? 14 years. 14 years.

18:47

See, I wanted to have an anniversary party

18:50

because I feel like having a party. Yeah, why

18:52

not? But 14 years is on an odd

18:54

number. You could do 15. What? You

18:56

could do 15 years. I know, but I don't

18:58

wait till next year. I want to do it this year. Renew

19:00

your vows. No, that's the kiss of death.

19:02

You remove the vows and then you get divorced.

19:04

All right, well. Yeah, I don't know.

19:06

I can make something up. There are certain

19:08

things about marriage that I stay away from. Couples

19:10

counseling. Yes. And renewing my vows.

19:12

Couples counseling seems problematic. And you're

19:15

someone who believes in therapy. Yeah, but

19:17

that's different. I'm in the room

19:19

alone. I can say what I want about the

19:21

person and he's not going to hear it. But

19:23

if I'm doing couples counseling and I say, well,

19:25

he's not a generous lover, that will never go

19:27

away. No. The appeal for couples counseling to me

19:29

is the idea that I feel like if I

19:31

had an impartial person in the room, I'd be

19:33

right about everything. I think I would have the

19:36

conversation. know, you should do that, just to prove

19:38

to yourself that you would not be right about

19:40

it. I think, well, my wife would never agree

19:42

to this, but I think that... because she'd say

19:44

I was biased or I'm distorting the facts or

19:46

I'm manipulating him, but I think I would win

19:48

everything at this point. Yeah. Well, you're delusional. Yeah.

19:50

And what else is, you know, the, here's the

19:52

thing. I believe that in order to solve a

19:54

marital problem, you have to take the blame for

19:56

what you did. If you, it's the same with

19:59

people in general. So I know

20:01

people they'll be like well, he

20:03

didn't, he dropped to me. He ghosted

20:05

me because um, What can be,

20:07

some excuse that they'll give. Maybe

20:10

I had something to do with it, right

20:12

if he ghosted me Sure,

20:14

so I Take the blame for

20:16

it and then you can move on to the

20:18

next friendship. Otherwise you keep repeating yourself. All right

20:20

Thank you for joining me today. Joy. Tomorrow, I'll

20:22

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