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great show lined up here

0:43

this week because... How

0:45

can Google unilaterally remove

0:48

my video about ad blockers,

0:50

but then run ads on

0:52

YouTube for ad blockers? This

0:55

does not make sense. This

0:57

is Chubaka. Chubaka

0:59

lives on Kashik. He does

1:01

not make sense. Also,

1:04

he makes credits. In the

1:06

news this week, Intel's having a

1:08

bit of a classic Coke moment,

1:10

where the new Intel CPU

1:12

is not nearly as beloved

1:15

as the old Intel CPU

1:17

that overheats and dies, which

1:19

is hard to deal with. What

1:21

else we got this week,

1:23

Mr. Luke? Oblivion! Oh my god, really?

1:25

Oblivion happened, it was remastered, Bethesda released,

1:28

there's more to talk about other than

1:30

that, but oh my, oh my goodness.

1:32

Everyone knew that was going to be

1:35

a topic of mine. I blew the

1:37

only one that I had for sure,

1:39

and other than that, I don't know.

1:41

They all kind of suck. Discord CEO

1:44

is stepping down. Whole load blown, because

1:46

it's like, you know, that reference and

1:48

also oblivion with the long

1:50

loading times. Oh. Loading Simulator

1:52

oblivion. The loading times are

1:55

pretty good now. The

2:18

show is brought to today

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by Vessie, Squarespace, and Notion,

2:22

and of course, as usual.

2:24

Our rap partner, D-brand, our

2:26

laptop, partner, Dell, and our

2:28

chair partner, Secret Lab. Let's

2:30

talk about this. Google is

2:33

apparently completely cool, with ad block

2:35

advertising on YouTube. Are they cool

2:37

with it or was it just

2:39

there? You know how you know how

2:42

when there's like an inflammatory thing

2:44

that you're reporting on? Yes Whether

2:46

you cause play as a journalist

2:48

or not you sort of just

2:50

have a moral you might say

2:52

Obligation to reach out and get

2:54

the other side of the story

2:56

so did we do so because

2:58

that's just kind of basic human

3:01

decency I reached out to Google

3:03

asking yo, what's the deal with

3:05

all of these ads? that I'm

3:07

getting for this service called Pie.

3:09

So this is this is Pie

3:11

ad block, which I don't know

3:13

is maybe gonna get the

3:15

wann show freaking takedown by

3:17

YouTube because you might remember this

3:20

recently we did a video part

3:22

two of D Google Your Life

3:24

where we talked yes about the

3:26

boogie man ad block and how

3:29

to use it on YouTube. Okay,

3:31

so I'm I'm showing this right

3:33

now. But the only reason I'm

3:35

aware of pie, Luke, is because I

3:38

keep getting fed ads for it on

3:40

YouTube. And talking to some of

3:42

the other writers here, they've been

3:44

apparently getting a lot of ads

3:47

for pie as well. So let

3:49

me, let me, you know what, I'll

3:51

actually read the document that

3:53

our writing team so

3:56

graciously prepared for us. Do

3:58

you recognize these people? this?

4:00

Ah yes okay Mr. Jordan

4:02

Block went and look

4:04

at all this work

4:07

he did for us

4:09

boom he's got the

4:11

people's intricate yeah here

4:14

we go the

4:16

people's internet okay so

4:18

do you recognize any

4:20

of these ads these are

4:23

all ads for pie no

4:25

okay well I bet you guys

4:27

do so far still no

4:29

Only thing I see is I

4:31

have YouTube premium, oh for crying out

4:34

loud. Yeah, I have YouTube premium, I

4:36

don't, uh... Well, I don't have YouTube

4:38

premium on my work account. Are these

4:40

the people that read ads for everything?

4:43

Is that the point? Well, those are

4:45

just, like, those are the, those are

4:47

the, those are the, like, the ads for

4:49

the, like, the ads for pie. Oh, so

4:52

it's basically asking if I've seen the

4:54

ad before? Yeah, yeah, I'm just asking

4:56

if you've seen the ad before.

4:59

No. Well, whatever. Honey co-founder, Ryan

5:01

Hudson, is back with a new project.

5:03

The pie ad blocker, which seems to

5:05

be advertising absolutely

5:08

everywhere recently, including on

5:10

YouTube. Google's ad transparency

5:12

site shows that pie

5:15

has approximately... 40 different

5:17

text ads and 800

5:19

different video ads active

5:21

in Google ads when we

5:23

checked earlier today. 800. Pi says

5:26

that you can block ads and

5:28

get paid, although the PiFAQ

5:30

seems mostly concerned

5:32

with distancing themselves

5:34

from honey slash

5:36

PayPal. This discovery on

5:38

my part comes just seven

5:41

months. after Google unilaterally removed

5:43

our D. Google Your Life

5:45

Part 2 video for violating

5:48

YouTube's community guidelines

5:50

as potentially harmful

5:52

or dangerous content, which it

5:54

turns out translates to telling

5:57

people how to block ads

5:59

on YouTube. So I reached out

6:01

to YouTube and by my

6:03

standards very politely asked, what

6:05

the fuck is this? I

6:07

was a little frustrated

6:10

by the experience to

6:12

say the least. I basically

6:14

said, hey, so what's the

6:16

deal with this? Like what

6:19

is the policy distinction between

6:21

me posting a video talking

6:24

about ad blocking on YouTube

6:26

versus an advertiser. paying for

6:28

positioning for their ad blocker on

6:31

YouTube. And they basically went, oh,

6:33

well, I don't know. You'll have to

6:35

get me the ad ID of that ad.

6:37

And I'm kind of sitting here going,

6:39

well, what does that even mean? Why

6:41

does it, why does it matter? Why

6:44

do you need the ID of

6:46

the, like it felt like I

6:48

was just being asked to jump

6:50

through a completely unnecessary hoop. This

6:52

is an ad for an ad blocker. So

6:54

they have a domain. Presumably,

6:56

you, Google, the entity, have an ad

6:58

service that knows what the fuck domain,

7:01

an ad that people click on, goes

7:03

to, find one that goes to that

7:05

domain and let me know. Right? Am

7:07

I missing something here? No. If it

7:09

goes to this ad block, or just find

7:11

anyone, I don't care, it doesn't

7:13

have to be the exact one.

7:15

Why does it? Is it irrelevant

7:17

detail? Anyway. We jumped through the

7:19

hoop. Jordan, very helpfully, found me

7:21

an ID, and also you can

7:23

see, got that helpful little link that

7:26

shows how many of these flip-in

7:28

video ads they have running right

7:30

now, which Google could have easily done.

7:32

They could have just gone and

7:34

found that list and then shown

7:36

me, responded, about any one

7:38

of them. Basically, so I sent that

7:40

over to them, and they're kind of

7:42

like, oh, well, Google's divisions

7:45

have a lot of separation. So

7:47

ads have a different set

7:49

of policies compared to YouTube

7:51

videos. And there is currently

7:53

no policy against advertising an

7:56

ad blocker, even though that

7:58

ad blocker appears as. content

8:01

on fucking YouTube. What if,

8:03

what if, what if, what

8:05

if, what if, you buy ads

8:07

for the Google Google Buy

8:09

your life video? Apparently,

8:12

that's kosher. What? So

8:15

making people watch it, it's

8:17

more okay. That having it

8:19

be optional. If the

8:22

content is bad, it's more

8:24

okay if you make people watch

8:26

it. than if you make it

8:28

optional for them to watch. That's

8:31

what is being communicated to me

8:33

personally. That's what I'm taking from

8:35

this. And yeah, yeah, CatOS points

8:38

out that ads on YouTube videos,

8:40

ads on YouTube are videos on the

8:42

platform, like in terms of how they

8:44

work on the back end. So you

8:47

100% can upload a video to

8:49

YouTube that contains instructions

8:51

for ad blocking, as long as you

8:53

do an ad by against it. other

8:56

YouTube rules you can break? Like how

8:58

far can you take that? Because there's

9:00

a lot of things that I could

9:03

think in Google ads that are

9:05

against YouTube terms of service.

9:07

Chewy, our community, our community,

9:10

coordinate, I don't know what the

9:12

heck his job title is, but

9:14

whatever, he's cool. He says in

9:16

chat, if you stop paying for

9:18

the video to be shown as an ad,

9:20

will it then get struck down? I

9:22

don't know. But it's

9:24

a good question. I just... Look, I

9:27

feel like this is one of those

9:29

times when people are gonna try

9:31

to find some gotcha. So let

9:33

me clarify my stance. I don't

9:35

use ad blockers. That is a

9:37

personal choice that I've made because I

9:39

am a content creator and it

9:41

would feel pretty hypocritical of me

9:43

to use ad blockers when I

9:46

am both aware of and educate

9:48

people on the impact that

9:50

it has on content creators.

9:52

I do not and have never

9:54

said, never use an ad

9:56

block or you fucking

9:58

monster, horrible. I have never said

10:00

that, that has never happened. If you think

10:03

it happened, you imagined it, or someone lied

10:05

to you and told you that it happens.

10:07

That is the only... You said it to

10:09

me behind the scenes. That is the only

10:11

way that those things could have been

10:13

an experience that you had. We

10:15

have explicitly... provided instructions on ad

10:17

blocking before on our channel. We've

10:20

done a video on piehole. We

10:22

have the Google Your Life video.

10:24

We've discussed our histories as pirates

10:26

before we could afford to buy

10:28

things extensively on the WAN show.

10:30

So, no. The big controversy is

10:32

I said ad blocks piracy because

10:34

it is and some people got

10:36

butt hurt. That's pretty much what

10:38

it boils down to, but I

10:40

never said don't do piracy. I

10:42

never said put away your eye

10:44

patch and your trichorn hat. I

10:47

just said. Well, it's a form

10:49

of piracy. You're circumventing the payment

10:51

on the platform, therefore piracy. It's

10:53

kind of simple. It's actually

10:55

really simple. So I'm

10:57

not upset that Google is

10:59

promoting ad blockers on a platform

11:01

where I rely on ads. What I'm

11:03

upset about is the hypocrisy

11:06

that we are seeing from, and

11:08

I get it. Companies have silos.

11:10

You know, they'll have different policies,

11:13

they'll have different teams. There's

11:15

all these, there's all these

11:17

factors that I think people

11:19

who have never worked for

11:21

a larger company don't consider.

11:23

It is not surprising to me

11:26

that this happened. What is surprising

11:28

to me though is now that it's been

11:30

flagged that it is not just, oh,

11:32

duh, obvious that this should not be.

11:34

Because if your policy is...

11:36

that because of user

11:38

safety, potentially harmful or

11:40

dangerous content, that my video

11:42

showing people how to block ads

11:45

on YouTube was removed. Not

11:47

just they contacted me and

11:49

we had a conversation and

11:51

we agreed to take it down.

11:54

No, removed. And then they contacted

11:56

me. Actually, I think I've read

11:58

about it on Reddit. first I

12:00

don't I don't actually remember the

12:03

point is they just ripped the

12:05

video down so that's what

12:07

happens there but if you're

12:09

running it as an ad well I

12:11

don't know it's a different team

12:13

I don't know what that doesn't make

12:16

any sense but hey they had a

12:18

good earnings call there they're out

12:20

power how many how many points

12:22

I can't remember and we've

12:25

got a couple other points here

12:27

it wasn't long ago 2023 That

12:30

Google sponsored a conference for ad

12:32

block developers and at least five

12:35

Google employees gave presentations At the

12:37

same time that YouTube was getting

12:39

more aggressive in dealing with ad

12:41

blocking. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me

12:44

that much Unique username says not

12:46

to be that guyliness, but I

12:48

don't think anyone ever used the

12:50

word piracy for what you described

12:52

So at least some confusion is warranted

12:55

IMO I'm sorry. I just actually

12:57

don't think it's that complicated

12:59

Right, like that's what we call

13:02

it. We don't call it

13:04

theft because if you don't

13:06

remove it or whatever, you

13:08

know, whatever the rationalization is,

13:10

right? Like if you don't

13:12

actually remove it from the

13:14

possession of the person who has

13:16

it, then it can't be theft.

13:18

I'm like, sure, okay. Like

13:21

it doesn't matter. It's all

13:23

semantics, right? Like that's the

13:25

whole point, is that it is

13:27

functionally the same thing. But is

13:29

it really not the point today? Because

13:31

I just don't care. I just don't care.

13:33

You do whatever works for you. And if

13:35

you have like a super guilty conscience

13:37

or whatever, and it makes you like

13:39

really mad when someone calls you out and

13:42

is like that's what you're doing, that's your

13:44

thing. You go deal with that. You talk

13:46

to your therapist about it, you talk

13:48

to your mom about it, you talk to

13:50

your friends about it. Or just don't care.

13:52

Or just don't care. Or go on team you

13:54

while you while you still can. While you still

13:56

can. And order a tricorn hat. and

13:59

an eye patch. That's also an

14:01

option. Yeah, I think a lot of

14:03

people are dusting them off right now.

14:05

Oh, I like dude, big time. Dude,

14:08

did Netflix just raise pricing again? I

14:10

didn't, I feel like that is a

14:12

statement. I could say that any time.

14:15

Question and answer, that is permanently

14:17

true. Yeah. Uh, we should. Okay,

14:19

I sent you this. You should have an

14:21

LTT eye patch. It's a pretty good

14:23

idea. That's actually a really good

14:25

idea. Dan. Can you send it

14:27

to the corn hat? And then

14:29

you get, if it's a combo, then

14:31

you get them at a lower price.

14:34

And if you steal them from us,

14:36

you get it for free. Which, I

14:38

mean, it's sort of. That's kind

14:40

of how that works. That kind

14:42

of goes without saying. A group

14:44

that did a price increase in

14:46

a way that I think was

14:48

really cool recently, and I

14:50

sent to you was dropout. Remember

14:53

that? Yes. Dropout. Why

14:55

is my thing not working?

14:57

Oh, it's dropout.TV. I was

14:59

doing dropout.com. Anyways, they had

15:01

a video on it and

15:03

you can tell they did

15:05

something right here when the

15:07

video on them increasing their

15:09

pricing was like very well

15:12

liked and the comments are

15:14

really positive. Yeah, it was

15:16

like one minute long too. It

15:18

was really short. Basically, they

15:20

were just like, yeah, we're increasing pricing, but

15:22

it's only for new people. Here we go. Price

15:25

changed warning. Two minutes. But I watched it at

15:27

1.75, so it probably took me a minute.

15:29

Yeah, it's so short. Vlog Brothers respondents just charged

15:31

me more, Dork, and people liked it. This

15:33

comment, you know when you have something special,

15:35

when an announcement that you're raising your prices,

15:38

has an overwhelmingly positive comment section. And it's

15:40

legit. And it's because they did it did

15:42

it did it in a cool way. Well,

15:44

they didn't even do it in a cool

15:46

way. They just did it the way it

15:48

should be done in it. And everyone else

15:50

sucks. Yeah. I think it was, yeah, it

15:53

goes up for new customers and it goes

15:55

up for returning customers. So if you canceled

15:57

and are coming back and it went up

15:59

as well. I will do you one better. Our returning

16:01

customers keep their existing pricing. But

16:03

we might have to change that at some point.

16:06

That probably doesn't make sense forever. Because someone's returning

16:08

from 2017. Yeah. Are they really a returning customer?

16:10

I think the way that YouTube defines a new

16:12

viewer to the channel is 90 days. It's either

16:14

90 days or 30 days or something. I wouldn't

16:16

mind having a buffer. That seems reasonable. I think

16:18

a little buffer might be reasonable, but I think

16:20

if someone's coming back after a year or whatever,

16:22

they can just... Clearly they're doing the thing where

16:24

they buy for one month download everything Then cancel

16:26

and then watch it and that's fine But then

16:28

they can pay you can pay full price They

16:30

can pay a couple dollars more. Yeah, it's not

16:32

gonna kill them I just want to point out

16:34

because like again We we talk about how there's a lot of to

16:36

point out because like again We talk about how there's there's a lot

16:39

of negative news. I just want to point out because like again we

16:41

we talk about how there's there's like again We talk about how to

16:43

point out because like again we talk about how to point out because

16:45

like again. I'm not to point out there's like we talk about how

16:47

to point out because like again. I'm not to point out. I'm not going to

16:49

point out. I'm not to point out. I'm not going to point out. I'm like

16:51

we talk about how to point out. I'm like we talk about how to point

16:53

out. I'm not going to point out. I'm not going to point out. I'm like

16:55

we talk about Again, I can't make

16:57

this clear enough. At no

16:59

point in time. We have

17:01

literally made videos on how

17:03

to do what you're doing.

17:05

We've talked about the benefits.

17:08

We will probably continue

17:10

helping you. We will. We will.

17:12

We will. We're talking about

17:14

it right now. We're talking about

17:17

it right now. We're talking about

17:19

it right now. I am mad

17:21

because my video on de-gooling

17:23

your life, which included... This

17:26

the wrong way. I choose not

17:28

to use them. That's a personal

17:30

choice. You choose to use

17:32

them for whatever reason you like.

17:34

And that is your personal

17:37

choice. And that's a legit

17:39

reason. And it's piracy.

17:41

And I don't care. And you shouldn't

17:44

care either. If you don't care.

17:46

Yeah. That's it. It's okay. You

17:48

know what? You don't need to

17:50

talk to your therapist about

17:52

it anymore. I will do that

17:54

for you. We're going to take

17:56

whatever parasocial relationship we had and

17:59

just try. We're going to turn

18:01

it up to 11. Oh man.

18:03

All right, our discussion

18:05

question on this topic

18:08

is, why didn't you

18:10

warn us about pie,

18:12

Linus? Yeah. Why didn't I?

18:14

Why didn't you? Why didn't I?

18:16

Honestly? Dispointed I don't click on ad

18:18

so I don't I didn't know what

18:20

it was I just I just could

18:22

tell that it was an ad blocker

18:24

so I call I basically got mad

18:26

at YouTube I was super suss because

18:29

this is the first time I've ever

18:31

heard of this yeah and they say

18:33

get paid and I was immediately like

18:35

oh what's going on so they say

18:37

browse you got to read the whole

18:39

line browse ad free with pie ad

18:41

block and earn cash rewards for the

18:43

ads you choose to see I read

18:45

some credit threads real quick and

18:47

stuff. Isn't this just brave? I

18:49

think it's kind of like

18:52

distributed brave, I think. You can put

18:54

it on other browsers. I found

18:56

this interesting. Featured by Google,

18:58

verified by Google. Can you,

19:00

okay, go to the actual chrome store

19:02

though, is it actually, is that real?

19:05

That looks like an image. I don't

19:07

think that's even, I don't think that

19:09

even pulls like, like, from the API

19:11

or anything. I did, not play store,

19:13

what am I doing? What am I

19:15

doing? What am I doing? What are

19:17

you doing? It's right here though, it

19:19

found it anyways, good job Google. It

19:22

didn't say featured on here. Oh okay.

19:24

But it does have a lot of

19:26

ratings. It does have that number of

19:28

ratings though. Yeah. They have a

19:30

good record. I thought this was

19:32

interesting. They flagged themselves as

19:34

a non-trader. A trader? What's

19:36

a trader? So I had to do

19:38

a bunch of research on this a

19:40

while back because we had to flag

19:42

float plane as a trader. But I

19:45

think that's because we receive

19:47

payment. They don't receive payment,

19:49

but if they are sending payment, I

19:51

feel like they would still be a

19:53

trader. And I feel like they're

19:55

trying to get away from this

19:58

because it notes on the end.

20:00

there. What if they're sending

20:02

payment but they're not

20:04

sending any to Russia or

20:06

China are they still a trader?

20:08

Yeah, definitely. Yeah, T-R-A-D-E-R to

20:11

be clear. And it says

20:13

for consumers in the European

20:15

Union, please note that consumer

20:17

rights do not apply to

20:20

contracts between you

20:22

and this developer. Chat knows

20:24

what I want. Where's my ding?

20:26

Oh. I'm

20:29

like conditioned now. I'm the dog. I

20:31

need my I need my I need

20:33

my dang. Yeah. I'm sorry. I missed

20:35

your joke. I didn't think it was

20:37

really like a joke. I wasn't

20:39

listening. You're playing on the

20:41

word traitor. Yeah, but it

20:44

was just like that's classic.

20:46

That's classic thing. Classic thing.

20:48

Classic thing. Classic thing. You

20:50

got a makeup thing. Dan

20:53

knows. Let's go. Oh, that

20:55

feels good. I took that

20:57

from you. Okay, what are

20:59

we supposed to be talking

21:02

about? What are you even

21:04

talking about? Oh, traders, right?

21:06

Trader, Trader Joe. Sorry, Dan's

21:09

sake, I'm sorry I took

21:11

that from you. Okay, sorry.

21:13

Oh man. Extremely

21:16

normal employee boss

21:18

interactions. Oh yeah.

21:21

Jordan says, as soon as I

21:23

started writing this topic, we couldn't get

21:25

a Piad to come up no matter

21:27

what we tried. Is Google watching the

21:29

Wandaq? Hi Google. No, probably not, Jordan.

21:31

Probably they just paused their campaigns. Apparently,

21:34

I've watched a couple of like, I've

21:36

watched a couple of like videos that

21:38

I'm not sure if I was supposed

21:40

to watch about like how bigger organizations

21:42

who do a lot, like tens of

21:44

millions of dollars a year of this

21:47

kind of advertising work. And they are

21:49

like. cycling through creative, they're

21:51

like cycling through campaigns at

21:54

a rate that is, was

21:56

already back then, like unfathomable

21:58

to me. of the size of

22:01

the teams that would need to work

22:03

on this. And now that you can

22:05

have AI agents that would do this

22:07

kind of stuff, I'm sure that it's

22:09

10x, 100x what it was before. It's

22:11

pretty wild. So probably they just had

22:13

a campaign paused and they were working

22:15

on to changeover or something. This is

22:17

not a topic, but there's a

22:19

lot of really, really nefarious advertising

22:21

going on. Which is undisclosed

22:23

advertising with fake AI creators

22:25

talking about life change stuff. Life

22:28

changed. One that I

22:30

saw recently, are you

22:32

going through the change?

22:34

Do you have hair?

22:36

Yeah, yeah, it's very

22:38

new in places. I

22:40

haven't had it before.

22:42

It's a lot to

22:44

talk about it. That

22:46

would help. You are

22:48

the therapist now. Look

22:50

at me. Okay, anyways,

22:52

the one that I

22:54

saw was one account.

22:56

That was constantly it had it

22:58

was always women But they're all

23:00

different and it was clearly not

23:02

like a stories account These were clearly

23:04

just AI generated and it would talk

23:07

about how they they moved to this

23:09

new country to Get away from whatever

23:11

and this current one was like oh

23:13

I moved to the one that I

23:15

saw I think was I moved to

23:17

Poland I'm pretty sure to get away from

23:19

the Trump administration and I was happy with

23:21

all these different things and I learned that

23:23

by law you have to have a water

23:25

filter and my hair and skin has never

23:28

felt better and when I moved out of

23:30

the place that I was in I like

23:32

my water filter so much I was going

23:34

to take it and then my landlord said

23:36

why don't you just look up this brand

23:38

on Amazon and I was like wow what a

23:40

good tip. Und disclosed obvious ad.

23:43

at every single post from this one account,

23:45

because no one seems to look into

23:47

it or care. The comments, by the

23:49

way, the reason why I'm saying it's

23:51

so nefarious, the comments, by the way,

23:53

are all just fighting over political things.

23:56

Nobody's pointing out this is

23:58

clearly an AI-generated content. Did

24:00

you click on any of the commenters? Do

24:02

they seem to be human? I didn't

24:04

click on the commenters. But they were

24:07

all just fighting about, it's all,

24:09

pull it as this way because

24:11

of whatever, Trump, blah blah blah,

24:14

something, blah, blah, blah, whatever. It

24:16

was all just political fighting. I

24:19

was reading about how brain rot

24:21

seems to actually not be a

24:23

figure of speech. Like, you know,

24:26

how when our parents were kids,

24:28

they said that like reading fiction

24:30

was going to rot your brain,

24:33

but like, no, really. like scrolling

24:35

through shorts and stories and

24:37

whatnot seems to actually rot

24:39

your brain like they're they're

24:42

they're measuring very very different

24:44

cognitive outcomes for younger kids I

24:46

think we talked about this recently

24:48

but the the really remarkable thing

24:51

sort of having lived on the

24:53

internet for my entire adult life

24:55

has been watching The intelligence of

24:58

humanity go like this, and the

25:00

intelligence of bots go like this.

25:02

And I feel like we are

25:04

dangerously close to the meeting point,

25:07

or maybe even past it, where-

25:09

For certain members of society, I

25:11

think we're touching- Where the best

25:14

bots, or even a mediocre bot,

25:16

seems a lot- More like a rational

25:18

human being than a lot of

25:20

people I encounter online part of

25:22

the part of the problem There

25:25

needs to be two X speed

25:27

on tic-talk to double the brain

25:29

rot that already That hurts me

25:31

so much that causes me physical

25:33

pain Part of the problem is

25:35

that they're all wrapped up

25:37

in Human disguises I guess and

25:40

to have your deception detector running

25:42

100% of the time is not

25:44

a thing most people do They're

25:47

saying they're also saying that

25:49

Gen Z is supposed to

25:51

be the most gullible generation

25:54

ever Yeah, this is on

25:56

this on political basically

25:58

just talking through how

26:01

the sources of information

26:03

that they go to

26:06

are so full of

26:08

disinformation that they just

26:10

have no, some of them

26:13

obviously not all. You guys

26:15

watched the WAN show so

26:17

you know what's up. But

26:20

yeah, well, anyway, the point

26:22

is... Free Therapy! Let's go!

26:24

But these platforms are so

26:26

full of disinformation and the

26:29

test that they did was

26:31

apparently, it was about 3,000

26:33

students and they showed them

26:36

footage of like riders, or

26:38

not riders, sorry ballot box

26:40

stuffers and we're talking about

26:42

sort of election fraud and

26:44

voter fraud and of the

26:46

3,000 three of them correctly

26:48

identified that the footage was

26:51

not in fact from America

26:53

but it was from Russia.

26:55

point one percent there must

26:57

have been language in the

26:59

in the footage no no there wouldn't

27:01

be because it's just like

27:04

talking talking over it text

27:06

oh I don't know if you

27:08

show a ballot box there's gonna

27:10

be like writing on it or a

27:12

flag or something anyways anyway three

27:15

of them apparently thought to

27:17

like reverse look up or

27:19

Google it or just not take

27:21

it for granted I don't

27:23

know dude it's it's kind of

27:26

it's kind of scary and to

27:28

be clear I think that I

27:30

think that a lot of our

27:32

audience and as much as this

27:34

is sort of for a really

27:36

stupid reason I think a lot

27:38

of our audience is pretty well

27:41

trained to look for multiple sources

27:43

because for us choosing a component

27:45

for our gaming rig is like

27:47

really really important and

27:49

as as as as many problems

27:51

as there are is still somewhat

27:54

okay. Like, I don't think

27:56

it's, I don't think it's

27:58

been polarized. the same way

28:01

that political coverage has. There's

28:03

certain areas where I think

28:05

there's a lot of that. I

28:07

think on like the Apple versus

28:09

Android side, things have devolved into

28:11

the point where you can kind

28:13

of not even really have a

28:16

conversation. And it's not so much

28:18

that with consoles anymore, it's just

28:20

depression. Yeah, yeah. So I really am

28:22

not I'm not necessarily talking about our

28:24

audience here. I think I think that

28:26

not I think that I've seen a

28:28

lot of evidence over the years that

28:30

our audience is a cut above the

28:32

average YouTube you know commenter because I

28:35

read a lot of comments on our

28:37

channel I read a lot of comments

28:39

on other channels and I don't know

28:41

how to say this any more tactfully

28:43

than I that I'm about to

28:45

say it but you know, the

28:48

general population on YouTube is pretty

28:50

fucking stupid, right? Whereas there's

28:52

other than a few

28:55

outliers, it's usually pretty

28:57

well-reasoned discourse. on our videos by

29:00

comparison and I don't know if you

29:02

if you disagree then my own means

29:04

in salt our audience but the only

29:06

reaction that I had wasn't I'm just

29:08

their therapist I'm not their friend better

29:10

my reaction is that you're looking at

29:12

YouTube as a whole that might be

29:14

a better reflection of like society well

29:17

no I know that's that's exactly what

29:19

I mean yeah that's why I'm saying

29:21

like these these issues with a lack

29:23

of media literacy, not being able to

29:25

tell the difference between someone with journalism

29:27

credentials and someone who just claims that

29:29

they're a journalist every once in a

29:32

while, but doesn't demonstrate any of the

29:34

obvious care and attention to journalistic standards,

29:36

right? Like not being able to tell

29:39

the difference. I think the folks that

29:41

are over here can probably tell the

29:43

difference better than the general population.

29:46

Yeah. One thing that I've been wondering

29:48

about, I've actually been... thinking of

29:50

emailing, like trying to find a university

29:52

that has a, I don't know, psychologists

29:54

that might work on something like this and email

29:57

them and see if they'll get back to me,

29:59

but I, I. I genuinely wonder how much

30:01

of it is the physical repetition. Because

30:03

you know how like people that get

30:05

addicted to smoking, some of them will

30:07

need... a replacement for the physical

30:09

act of smoking. Not the nicotine. Yep.

30:12

And something that I've been wondering about

30:14

is all of these apps work the

30:16

same. Like, it's the infinite scroll concept

30:18

that you've actually pushed back on in

30:20

the past. But the infinite scroll concept

30:22

of like, you know, Facebook works that

30:25

way, Instagram works that way, Twitter works

30:27

that way, threads works that way, Tiktalk

30:29

works that way, everything works that way.

30:31

Everything is infinite scroll. You're trying to

30:33

get some product information, dude. Yeah. And

30:35

every website is designed to have to

30:38

scroll forever to find any information about

30:40

it. I genuinely wonder how much of

30:42

the addiction is just going like this.

30:44

Doing this forever. Well, because people that

30:46

will do this for five hours, which

30:49

is not that much of an exaggeration.

30:51

Like, like near idle games, where you

30:53

basically just like click a thing or

30:55

tap a thing or... So your brain is

30:58

barely functioning and you're doing some form

31:00

of physical input and people will talk

31:02

about how you come out of it

31:04

like in a haze. You don't even

31:06

remember what you were doing for the

31:08

last amount of time or whatever. So

31:10

like how much of that is the old TV

31:12

concept of clicking through the channels?

31:14

Like how much of this is literally

31:16

just you swiping your phone because it's

31:19

weird to me how ubiquitous it is.

31:21

There isn't any side-scrolling

31:23

one. They're all

31:25

the same thing. All the apps work

31:27

the same way. And when you're like,

31:29

oh, I should get off Instagram, and

31:31

you load up Twitter, then you go

31:34

do the same thing again, you're not

31:36

actually escaping because they all act the

31:38

same way. So they keep self-referencing. Yeah,

31:40

what is about sliding our finger that

31:42

is lower friction? than tapping our finger,

31:44

I mean figurative friction. By the way,

31:47

I want to make this abundantly clear.

31:49

Tinder is not the same. And Tinder

31:51

is not as popular. We're not saying

31:53

we're like better than other people. I

31:55

doom scroll. Loop doom scrolls. There's doom

31:58

scrolling. We get... We get... caught

32:00

in it too. We're just, take this for

32:02

what it is. Two fish, caught in the

32:04

net, talking to all the other fish in the

32:06

net, going how the fuck did we

32:08

get in this net and what the

32:10

fuck is up with this? I have

32:12

to keep, I'm very proactive about trying

32:15

to set up tools to help me

32:17

avoid it when I can. I will actively, like

32:19

if I notice it starts to get

32:21

bad with a certain app, I'll just

32:23

remove it from my phone completely for

32:25

at least a minimum period of time.

32:28

Sock, yeah, and you can, oh man.

32:30

See, I was thinking about this the

32:32

other night, what the market would be, because

32:34

it's the classic XKCD standards strip,

32:37

right? Like, why do so many

32:39

standards exist? Because everything else is

32:41

imperfect, and there's so many different

32:43

standards. We should just have one

32:45

that's like the one standard to

32:47

rule them all, and then you

32:49

just have an understanding, right? Okay,

32:51

so I was thinking, like, realistically,

32:53

the last thing the world needs

32:55

is another Android skin. But that video

32:57

on the light phone three that we

32:59

did recently which is Like that super

33:01

basic phone that just does calling and

33:03

text you can take pictures and send

33:06

pictures and that is it I got

33:08

like 700,000 800,000 views or something

33:10

like that. There's clearly interest in

33:12

dumb phones, but what people were really

33:14

frustrated by with that particular phone was

33:16

that like it's kind of useless like

33:19

you can't you can't pay for parking.

33:21

You can't You can't use it as

33:23

a digital wallet. You can't send Wi-Fi

33:25

messages, so you can't send

33:28

messages on WhatsApp or Facebook

33:30

passenger. Like it doesn't run

33:32

apps. And I was thinking,

33:34

like, if there was a

33:36

justification for a new Android

33:39

to exist, what's up? Oh, you got

33:41

a pie ad when you wanted to

33:43

look at the... Yeah, okay, there you

33:45

go. How many of you says that? I

33:47

can't remember. The video? 924. Yeah, even

33:49

more now. So people are clearly interested

33:52

in this. People care. I was thinking

33:54

that would be a justification for a

33:56

new skin of Android or for a

33:58

new handset maker to make. a

34:00

detox phone, but that actually has basic

34:02

functionality. So like one of the things

34:04

that you're talking about setting alarms for

34:06

like using apps. You can do that

34:09

on basically anything. You can say like,

34:11

oh, I want to limit my screen

34:13

time to one hour of this a

34:15

day or whatever. But as far as

34:17

I know, they all just let you

34:19

click add more. Yes, or dismiss or

34:21

whatever and another big problem that I

34:23

have is this sameness between the apps

34:26

So because you can't you can't do

34:28

like I'm gonna limit my social apps

34:30

to this amount of time So, okay,

34:32

what, do you do, like, five minute?

34:34

YouTube has scrollable shorts. Instagram has scrollable

34:36

shorts. Tiktok has scrollable shorts. And a

34:39

lot of creators upload to all of

34:41

them anyway. X has stuff. There's so

34:43

many different things. There's so many different

34:45

things. So much stuff. They've got so

34:47

much stuff. They're going to need more

34:49

than one X pretty soon. Three.

34:52

Three. Yeah. Here we go. So, you

34:54

know, what about that? You know, what

34:56

about a phone where you have to

34:58

have, you literally have to have an

35:00

accountability who. I would love it. Who

35:02

keys in a pin. And when you

35:05

said it, you actually cannot look at

35:07

Twitter again that day. Amazing. You

35:09

can't. Yeah. Period. Yeah. Because the

35:11

only solution for me was literally

35:13

to remove the apps from my

35:15

phone. Yep. So I did that with Twitter.

35:18

And Twitter's still off my phone. It's

35:20

been off my phone for quite a

35:22

while now. But the problem that I

35:25

have is like, I'll have a stupid app

35:27

because one person that I know that's

35:29

the only way that they communicate.

35:31

And then that app probably

35:33

does other crap as well. And

35:35

then I'll find myself just like

35:38

accidentally diverted and then, oh,

35:40

whoa, how long just went

35:42

by? And it's like, darn

35:44

it. So sometimes you can

35:46

avoid those things more easily

35:48

sometimes you can't It is what

35:50

it is, but yeah, it sucks. I

35:52

really want to figure out and

35:54

it would be it would be cool

35:56

to me if someone made a video

35:59

on it I don't know if it

36:01

makes sense to be an EltoT video

36:03

or not, but like, what is the theory

36:05

behind why this stuff is so

36:07

addictive? I know like humans are

36:09

generally addicted to information

36:11

and it's like absolute information overflow

36:14

to be able to just scroll

36:16

and there's new stuff all the

36:18

time. It's why scrolling on the

36:20

TV was popular back in the

36:22

day. But I think I think

36:24

there's a physical element to it

36:26

as well with the the actual

36:28

scrolling I know there's a common

36:30

perspective that comes up of like

36:32

oh, I'll just keep scrolling until I

36:35

find one more good one But then what

36:37

do what how do you define a good

36:39

one so then you end up just scrolling

36:42

forever? There's like there's all these

36:44

little concepts to it but it

36:46

would be interesting to to know because

36:48

I haven't personally seen addiction

36:50

is to stimuli not information I

36:53

think I

36:57

feel like we're going to get

37:00

in trouble because we're talking

37:02

about non-text stuff that we

37:04

don't know anything about, and

37:06

then people are going to be

37:08

like, you should have known every

37:10

single possible fact about

37:12

this again every time, by the

37:15

way. But I thought it was both.

37:17

But I don't know. Cool.

37:19

Why don't we talk about

37:21

whatever it is we're supposed

37:23

to be doing right now?

37:25

Let's do some announcements. to

37:27

give a massive shout-out to

37:30

our team at MIBC who's

37:32

been handling the shipment side

37:34

of the ship Storm. They

37:36

have managed to keep pace

37:38

with the unbelievable

37:40

demand that the free shipping

37:42

on orders over $150 LTT

37:45

store.com promotion has generated. Shout

37:47

out those guys. That is

37:49

why the shipstorm sale event.

37:52

has been able to be

37:54

extended because our concern as

37:56

I explained when we first

37:58

launched it. was that if we

38:01

didn't end it after a little over

38:03

a week, I think, was the original

38:05

time frame, they would be so backlogged

38:07

that we wouldn't be able to get

38:09

things over the border before that May

38:11

the second deadline when tariffs, I mean,

38:13

at this point, may, may not, they

38:15

could be this amount, they could be

38:17

this amount, who knows, but that was

38:19

the date that we were working off

38:21

of indicated that pricing would have to

38:24

go up quite significantly. Anyway, we

38:26

were worried that that would be

38:28

the last day we'd be able

38:30

to ship stuff out, but they

38:33

have kept up so incredibly that

38:35

not only are we extending the

38:38

ship storm sail event, but we

38:40

actually have some new things to

38:42

add to it. The power outlet

38:45

is apparently what we're calling our

38:47

B stock. So at the power

38:49

outlet. You can get a great

38:51

deal on open box and pre-owned

38:53

goods. That's a pretty good name.

38:56

We reduce waste. Everyone wins. So

38:58

we have open box backpacks. You

39:00

can get a brand new one,

39:03

but it's missing the box for

39:05

179 USD. No cosmetic wear. You

39:07

can get a used, like new,

39:09

with minor cosmetic wear. And used...

39:12

A grade with moderate cosmetic wear

39:14

and we've got, oh that one's

39:17

sold out apparently, oh okay, all

39:19

we have left is new boxes.

39:21

Well, the point is we... Classic

39:24

LTG store. Introduced that deal? Oh

39:26

boy, well hold on, there's got

39:28

to be more, right? Oh, there's

39:30

a used backpack between both of

39:33

you to show off. Well, we

39:35

should probably get this to the shipment

39:37

team so that they can put it

39:39

up for sale because apparently the rest

39:41

of them were sold out. Cool. The

39:44

least expensive tier apparently sold out really

39:46

fast followed by the like like new

39:48

tier the following day. Y'all blew us

39:50

away. We still have some new open

39:53

box ones available so you can save

39:55

about 70 bucks on a brand new

39:57

OGLT backpack. Here's a question. Just

39:59

note. These are OG backpacks

40:01

with either the old-style Caribbean

40:04

zipper or without Caribbeaners and

40:06

just regular YKK zips. Okay, sorry.

40:08

What is that, sir? It says boxless,

40:10

but I'm assuming it's still gonna

40:12

come in a box. I wouldn't

40:15

assume anything. Okay. It might come

40:17

in an envelope. Oh, really big one.

40:19

Wow. I don't know. I don't know. I'd be

40:21

impressed. I'm sure it'll get

40:23

there in one piece, and

40:25

if it doesn't contact support.

40:27

We also brought back mystery

40:29

screwdrivers. but with a twist. Basically

40:31

we're moving these screwdrivers so fast we don't

40:33

have time to pack them and also we're

40:36

in a hurry because tariffs because

40:38

we got to get them out before

40:40

May 2nd so we're giving you 20

40:42

bucks off if you buy a screwdriver

40:44

and included standard or knocked to a

40:46

bit set without the usual screwdriver box.

40:48

So that's what makes it mystery it

40:51

doesn't have a box. All mystery screwdrivers

40:53

will ship without a box. Look at that.

40:55

We don't have time to

40:57

pack these screwdrivers blah blah

40:59

blah also as a final

41:02

ship without a box. Possible

41:04

colorways are knocked to a beige

41:07

or knocked to a brown but

41:09

it is the same quality screwdriver.

41:11

Okay what else we got is

41:13

that is that it for? Is

41:16

that it for? Is that it

41:18

for? Big nerd gaming. Oh no.

41:20

We're pretty sure the guy on

41:23

the phone said beginner gaming.

41:25

But that's not as much fun

41:27

as what we thought he said. Big

41:29

nerd gaming. Which is big nerd gaming.

41:31

So we can click here and we

41:33

can see the design. I'm gonna be

41:35

big nerd gaming. Dude. Why is

41:37

Sarah such a Chad? Because this looks

41:40

awesome. Looks great. This looks so good.

41:42

We are ready to go. Well, we're

41:44

ready to go as soon as we

41:47

ship these out by June the 27th.

41:49

Yeah, all orders containing this are expected

41:51

to ship later. This is a print

41:54

to order shirt. But I'm super, super

41:56

exciting. I'm super excited. And finally,

41:58

oh my God. Oh. Oh my god. Cargo

42:01

pants are back in stock. Oh!

42:03

Cargo pants are back in stock!

42:05

Uh, yeah. So that's cool. Darn.

42:07

So we have different waist

42:09

sizes. We don't have another

42:11

end seam yet. So yeah, just the

42:14

one, I guess. Yes. I think at

42:16

some point we do want to add

42:18

another one, but still out of

42:20

luck for me. Just waist sizes for

42:22

now. We'll get there. Okay. I got

42:24

more shirts. I'm wearing one of my

42:27

new tall shirts now. I will get

42:29

pants eventually. With so many new deals

42:31

and items we've extended free shipping to

42:33

all orders over $150 until Monday, 10

42:35

a.m. Pacific time. This is likely going

42:38

to be the last time we can

42:40

extend this promotion since we need to

42:42

make sure that your orders get shipped

42:44

out and get over the border on

42:46

time. Make sure to take advantage of

42:49

these deals and the free shipping before

42:51

it's too late, especially if you're in

42:53

the US. You can find it all

42:55

at LTT store.com. Great work from the

42:57

team. Really pulled it together getting some

42:59

of these items Some of these restocks

43:01

up on the site. The big

43:04

nerd gaming was a Victor design

43:06

Was it? Oh, he did a great

43:08

job. Fantastic work. Oh, I I gave

43:10

credit to the wrong person. It was

43:12

so good. I thought Sarah did it

43:15

Wow, well that is a high

43:17

complement indeed Victor. It's good

43:19

stuff. You might call yourself

43:21

victorious Victoria's You

43:24

stole that from me? That's my

43:27

ding. You stole that from me?

43:29

All right. What are we supposed to

43:31

be doing now? I don't know.

43:34

I've had a merge message. Sure.

43:36

He's so sad. High deal. I'll

43:38

find like upgrade. We should explain

43:41

what merge messages are. Oh yeah.

43:43

I don't know what's going on.

43:46

I pirated your dig. No, because

43:48

I would still have it. You

43:50

stole it. No. You wouldn't download

43:53

a ding. merch messages whatever

43:55

just go on the store and in

43:58

the cart you can leave a merch

44:00

message, producer Dan will get it and

44:02

he will forward it to me and

44:04

Luke, or he will just not. It's

44:06

quite possible that he just won't. Yeah,

44:08

you get nothing. But you'll get your

44:10

order in the mail anyway. All right,

44:13

all right, hit me. Sure. High DLL.

44:15

I have finally upgraded my graphics card

44:17

from a GDX 970 to a 97XT.

44:19

Do you have any tips on an

44:21

open world game for single player? Best

44:23

regards from the middle of Sweden. It's

44:25

one Celsius outside. An

44:28

open world single player game. I

44:30

mean, okay. Sure, I'll bite. Play

44:32

freelancer. It's not gonna, it's

44:35

not gonna push your, not gonna

44:37

push your hardware, but it

44:39

is a great underrated game.

44:41

That's cool. I like that.

44:43

That completely runs out of gas

44:45

in the last 10% or so, because

44:48

they clearly ran out of budget. But

44:50

boy, is it a hell of a

44:52

ride up until that point. That's sick.

44:55

Super great answer. Super great

44:57

answer. Now we've got some

44:59

full plane announcements and a

45:02

couple others. And he's going

45:04

to say, how about oblivion

45:06

remastered? There you

45:09

go. Was that what you

45:11

were going to say? More

45:13

wind? Why not more wind

45:15

remastered? I don't know. If you

45:17

haven't played it before, it's

45:19

still good. Yeah, you could

45:21

do that. I think modern...

45:23

With the updates and stuff,

45:26

Cyberpunk is pretty sick. Try

45:28

that out. More announcement. Oh,

45:30

oh, just one? But no,

45:32

we can't do more announcements,

45:34

that's too many announcements, they

45:36

can't, announcements are like

45:38

half the doc, we're just gonna

45:40

have to come back to announcements

45:43

later. I think we're supposed to

45:45

do the flow plane one, we

45:47

can come back to the rest

45:49

of them later. Fine. If you're

45:51

a big nerd gamer. or a

45:54

beginner-gamer, get yourself an early screening

45:56

of Secret Shopper Part 2 on

45:58

float plane, which I am a... I'm about

46:00

to make live right now.

46:02

Why would we do this? I'm

46:04

about to make live right now.

46:07

No, no, no, no, no, don't,

46:09

don't, don't. It says don't

46:11

share your screen. It does?

46:13

Linus? Sorry. Please share

46:16

your screen. What? It says

46:18

share your screen. What?

46:20

It says to share my

46:22

screen and set the video

46:25

to public. Don't read this

46:27

out. Okay, this was supposed to

46:29

come out Sunday per our

46:31

48-hour early release advertisement However

46:33

beyond the editor and pluf

46:35

who owns a monitor that's

46:38

true pushed through and delivered

46:40

it for you guys now

46:42

Nice so be ahead of

46:44

the YouTube viewers as they have

46:46

to wait over 90 hours to watch

46:48

episode 2 Why did you want you

46:50

to share your screen when you do

46:52

things? I but I But are you

46:54

concerned about this? Yeah up

46:56

here Like why does that matter?

46:59

I just we've just never shared

47:01

this. It's probably fine. I've just

47:03

never thought about it or looked

47:05

at it Here's the float plane

47:07

CMS. I tried to cover it

47:09

with something and I was too

47:12

slow Just don't click anything else

47:14

do things here. How do things

47:16

here? How dare you? You want

47:18

me to click here? You want

47:20

me to click here? Yeah, just

47:22

don't how about legal agreement? No,

47:25

you want me to click there?

47:27

Joe says don't look. Yeah, there's

47:29

things you like everyone closed your

47:31

eyes. Things that would be a

47:33

major legal problem if you clicked

47:35

on them. I'm not going to

47:38

click those things. I know how

47:40

the CMS, Dan, give you my

47:42

CMS back. Okay, public. Boop. Why

47:44

take the risk? I don't know.

47:46

Life is about risk. Take risks

47:48

or be boring forever. That's

47:51

true. Boom. Save. Save. I

47:53

don't think that worked. Changes

47:56

saved? Oh, yeah, okay. Well, sure. You

47:58

don't upload things to the... Fullplane,

48:01

dude, I haven't done it in

48:03

forever. You know what? Haven't done

48:05

it in forever. Yeah. We added

48:07

the changes saved thing just because

48:09

people didn't trust us. Well, yeah.

48:12

It was you. Yeah, good. You

48:14

should. I want a fair feedback.

48:16

I want a confirmation that my

48:18

changes are saved. Nothing else is

48:20

good enough. I mean, if you

48:22

grade out the save. Then we

48:25

wouldn't have this problem because I

48:27

would click save and it would

48:29

stay great out. Yeah, but the

48:31

fade and then come back is

48:33

indicating that. No, but I haven't

48:36

changed anything. No, that's old. That's

48:38

old meta if that was ever

48:40

the meta. The current meta is

48:42

that I wouldn't be able to

48:44

save if I haven't made a

48:47

change. Yeah, things on the CMS

48:49

don't keep up with, does it

48:51

work? Yeah, people are saying it's

48:53

not live yet. It just went

48:55

live. Chewy says give it a

48:57

minute. Yeah, it just says give

49:00

it a minute. It's a global

49:02

thing. This is one of the

49:04

reasons why we don't want to

49:06

show. The same thing happens on

49:08

YouTube. Yeah. It's normal. Yeah, why

49:11

do you think 25 people type

49:13

first? Surely. If that other comment

49:15

was there, they would be smart

49:17

enough to not type first. Yeah.

49:19

But it doesn't show up for

49:21

them. Or they're dumb. Also not

49:24

everyone gets at the same time.

49:26

It has to... No, that's what

49:28

I'm saying. That's the... That's the

49:30

point. No, you said it doesn't

49:32

show up for them. Yeah. Oh,

49:35

I thought you meant the other

49:37

comments. Yeah. Because the other comments

49:39

also might just not show up.

49:41

Yeah. Because the comments and the

49:43

video are on different... He's all

49:46

cut up. He's all cut up.

49:48

Oh. We let people vote. We

49:50

let them buy the narcissist shirt

49:52

or the doesn't know shirt. I

49:54

wonder how many people would just

49:56

walk around with the narcissist shirt.

49:59

I feel like I'd have one

50:01

of those. I feel like if

50:03

like what's a brand that would

50:05

do this. What's some like really

50:07

expensive? Louis Vuitton would just have

50:10

a person just as a narcissist.

50:12

That's my point. I feel like

50:14

they would be an artist collab.

50:16

I feel like they might. There

50:18

is no way. But I feel

50:20

like it would be more like

50:23

a streetware brand. No way. Like

50:25

a streetware acts something collab where

50:27

it just said narcissist on it.

50:29

People are giving suggestions and float

50:31

plane shots. I don't know if

50:34

any of these are valid, but

50:36

they're saying supreme Blenciaga Blenciaga I

50:38

feel like would do it off

50:40

white Mark Jacob Be a microprint

50:42

and it would cost like a

50:45

thousand dollars a foot No, it

50:47

would just be made in China

50:49

and then they'll just tell everyone

50:51

that it costs a thousand dollars

50:53

already says Vetmos would do it.

50:55

I don't know. I don't know

50:58

any of who that is Because

51:00

I don't because I don't know

51:02

Nick owes you a email about

51:04

the shirts. Oh, does he? Yes.

51:06

Okay There's no way Kanye would

51:09

do it that would involve admitting

51:11

that he's a narciss I don't

51:13

think any actual What kind of

51:15

car would he drive, Luke? Why

51:17

don't you tell me? No, no,

51:19

don't tell me. Okay. That's no,

51:22

no, I could. Anyways, I think

51:24

we need merch messages. I think

51:26

we need merch messages. Yeah, hit

51:28

me with a merch message. Jeebus.

51:30

One more? I don't know. One

51:33

more. One more. Hello, LDL. Yeah.

51:35

Linus, how happy were you with

51:37

your Qualcommcom laptop? Need a new

51:39

laptop for traveling and light photo

51:41

and video and video processing. It

51:44

was okay. I'm actually not on

51:46

it right now. Man, it is

51:48

a dude. Did you check out

51:50

the framework short circuit by any

51:52

chance? No. So investment in framework

51:54

disclosure, the Dell that we used

51:57

as our battery life. comparison was

51:59

insane. No, but like, insane. Are

52:01

you checking it out right now?

52:03

I am. Okay, see if you

52:05

can find the battery life, see

52:08

if you can find the battery

52:10

life comparison. Uh, blah, blah, unboxing.

52:12

Yeah, dude, dude, dude, this is,

52:14

this actually blew my mind. for

52:16

whatever reason is a little unforgiving,

52:18

right? Like we always... Literally always

52:21

test lower than what the manufacturer

52:23

advertises. And that's fine as long

52:25

as our test is consistent. Yeah,

52:27

it raises serious questions for me

52:29

about what exactly it is that

52:32

manufacturers are testing because like there's

52:34

only so many things that you

52:36

can disable. We're already in battery

52:38

savor mode. We're already at 200

52:40

nip brightness. Like what are you

52:43

guys even doing? We're doing 10

52:45

AP playback the entire time. disable

52:47

your Bluetooth, disable your Wi-Fi. Come

52:49

on. What are you even talking

52:51

about here? They're probably trying to

52:53

simulate. A balanced workload. Anyway, the

52:56

point is we got it in

52:58

the chamber. We're doing battery-saver mode.

53:00

1080p playback overplex. 16 hours? That's

53:02

incredible. It's wild. Why would I

53:04

need a Qualcomm? That's a pretty

53:07

good point. Raises serious questions for

53:09

me. It's not that I didn't

53:11

like the Qualcomm. It's not that

53:13

I didn't enjoy my time with

53:15

the Snap Dragon X. It's just

53:18

that if, like, like, the... Are

53:20

the current gen Intel mobile chips

53:22

low-key really really really good? It's

53:24

a pro premium. How expensive is

53:26

this laptop? That one's really expensive.

53:28

Yeah, but a big part of

53:31

why that one is so efficient

53:33

is that one is so efficient

53:35

is that it's using that chip

53:37

and I think Dell also does

53:39

some really cool things with their

53:42

display for for our company efficiency.

53:44

These are not cheap. I mean

53:46

it's not dragon X is not

53:48

cheap either but that is more

53:50

expensive. That's like probably starting at

53:52

around 2200200 hundred bucks or something.

53:56

No. Dan, unless to do

53:58

more topic. Mike wasn't live,

54:00

so you're just crazy. That's

54:02

why I cut them up.

54:04

You're trying to take control

54:06

of so dead? It's my

54:08

job, Lou. Maybe the new

54:10

ear. Okay, what are we

54:12

supposed to be doing? Intel.

54:14

Speaking of Intel, they're having

54:16

a bit of a classic

54:18

Coke moment. Intel just dropped

54:20

a new 200-S boost bios

54:22

profile for their Aerolake CPUs,

54:24

like the Core Ultra 9-285K,

54:26

letting you safely overclock, without

54:28

killing your warranty. Early benchmarks

54:30

from DeBauer indicate that it

54:32

can boost gaming performance by

54:35

anywhere from 4 to 19

54:37

percent. But here's the twist.

54:39

For laptops, most people are

54:41

still buying older Raptor Lake

54:43

chips, 13th and 14th gen,

54:45

because they're cheaper, and on

54:47

the desktop, nobody seems to

54:49

give a hot gosh darn

54:51

about the limited AI uses

54:53

for the new chips, and

54:55

therefore the new chips at

54:57

all. I think that's for

54:59

laptops. Oh, for laptops. Why

55:01

are we talking about laptops?

55:03

For crying out loud. Okay,

55:05

well, whatever the point is

55:07

that no one's buying Intel's

55:09

latest chips Meanwhile CEO Lip

55:11

Bhutan announced undisclosed layoffs But

55:13

prior to that Bloomberg cited

55:15

internal sources claiming as much

55:17

as 20% of Intel's workforce

55:19

Could be laid off in

55:21

an effort to drive greater

55:23

simplicity amongst other sweeping cultural

55:25

changes at Intel Intel's also

55:27

facing unexpected production shortages for

55:29

its older Intel seven process

55:31

node as demand for these

55:33

more affordable chips continues to

55:35

be strong. 20% of the

55:37

workforce is like 20,000 jobs.

55:39

So, okay, some of the

55:41

stuff that I had kind

55:43

of put in, some of

55:45

the stuff that I had

55:47

put in maybe didn't make

55:49

it entirely into the doc,

55:51

but basically, yeah, the Intel,

55:53

oh yeah, right, right, right,

55:55

right, right, right. I remember

55:57

what I wanted to do.

55:59

So I wanted to go

56:01

on, you know, a site

56:03

like Amazon, top selling CPUs.

56:05

And C. How deep we

56:07

have to go in this

56:09

list to find anyone who's

56:11

buying these desktops? Top Core

56:14

Ultra 200 series chips. Is

56:16

anybody buying these things? Oh,

56:18

Crystal asked, what's a Coke

56:20

moment? A new Coke. Classic

56:22

New Coke. So back in,

56:24

I think it was the

56:26

80s, Coke released New Coke

56:28

and everyone hated it. And

56:30

then they got rid of

56:32

it. And they brought back

56:34

Coca-Cola Classic. That's why it

56:36

says classic, because that's just

56:38

like what it was before

56:40

or something, but also of

56:42

corn syrup now. So I

56:44

don't know, whatever. The point

56:46

is Coke Classic, and then

56:48

sales skyrocketed. So there's like

56:50

kind of a conspiracy theory

56:52

that they made new Coke

56:54

suck on purpose so that

56:56

they could increase sales of

56:58

Coke classic. I'm not sure

57:00

if I subscribe to that.

57:02

But, uh... That's... It feels

57:04

like, uh, 17D chess. I

57:06

don't know. Now apparently Newcoke

57:08

was terrible. I never tried

57:10

it. It was dramatically risk

57:12

the entire company for a

57:14

crazy move. Okay, so here

57:16

we go. We finally reached

57:18

an Intel chip at number

57:20

eight. It is a 12th

57:22

gen at number nine. We

57:24

have another Intel chip a

57:26

14th gen processor. More rise

57:28

and more rise in we

57:30

have a 13th gen at

57:32

number 14th place. We have

57:34

a 14th gen at 16th.

57:36

We have a 14th gen

57:38

at 18th Okay, we're right

57:40

number 25 is a micro

57:42

tick switch of some sort

57:44

Core ultra seven two six

57:46

five K at 29th place

57:48

to be clear. They're still

57:50

selling a few of these

57:53

things. It's got a hundred

57:55

and eighty eight reviews which

57:57

is something but when we

57:59

compare that to you know,

58:01

like the 1,200F, a chip

58:03

that clearly, you know, used

58:05

to be a little higher

58:07

with 1400 reviews. Yeah, it's

58:09

not a lot. It's not

58:11

a lot folks. A hundred

58:13

reviews on the coral for

58:15

9-285-K, just 37 on the

58:17

245-K. Clearly people do not

58:19

care about these things. Thousands.

58:21

A lot of MD at

58:23

the top. On chips that

58:25

people actually buy, like the

58:27

7800X3D. Like here, let's find

58:29

something. Oh, wow, this is

58:31

embarrassing. The 9950X. Okay, this

58:33

is an almost $800. Intel's

58:35

current-gen, like, value gaming chip,

58:37

the 265K. It's not even

58:39

close. That's embarrassing. More, more

58:41

performance, you know, with, you

58:43

know, overclocking or whatever, Bios

58:45

Boost, 200-S boost profile. Great,

58:47

but it just doesn't, it

58:49

doesn't seem like enough. It

58:51

seems like arrow-like is just.

58:53

Dead in the water at

58:55

this point. We're on the

58:57

we're on the US site

58:59

Or I think so wait

59:01

did it go to dot

59:03

C8. I hate it when

59:05

it does that Forces you

59:07

hate it when it does

59:09

that. Yeah No, that was

59:11

this was my fault. I

59:13

clicked the wrong thing I

59:15

did click a dot C.

59:17

A link. That's my bad.

59:19

Well anyway still my point

59:21

stands all right sucks to

59:23

suck Noke asks,

59:26

do you think the ultra-CPUs were

59:28

made on purpose for laptops, but

59:30

had to release them as desktop

59:32

variants to satisfy a quota of

59:34

some sort? I mean, that's basically,

59:37

as far as I can tell,

59:39

been what's driven Intel's CPU development

59:41

since they released, like, core. And

59:43

that was back in, like, the

59:45

mid-2000s, was they recognized that power

59:48

efficiency was going to matter a

59:50

lot, and then the only times

59:52

that they have sort of deviated

59:54

from that are when they like

59:56

sucked. and had to had to

59:59

juice up power just to get

1:00:01

performance decent. They've been very mobile

1:00:03

first for 20 years. Oh yeah,

1:00:05

definitely. Don't forget about server, but

1:00:08

that's the funny thing is like

1:00:10

enthusiast desktop is this one kind

1:00:12

of little island of not caring

1:00:14

about power consumption in a sea

1:00:16

of server, of server caring about

1:00:19

per core power consumption a lot

1:00:21

and mobile caring about per core

1:00:23

power consumption a lot. So we

1:00:25

just get whatever's kind of left

1:00:27

over. We're also

1:00:29

like the worst market for them out

1:00:32

of those three probably unfortunately. Oh yeah

1:00:34

the most vocal and cranky and least

1:00:36

loyal like you look at mobile and

1:00:39

enterprise right like they just have regular

1:00:41

hardware refreshes that they just they just

1:00:43

buy and they don't feel like validating

1:00:45

another vendor I mean that's how Intel

1:00:48

has managed to be behind in in

1:00:50

server performance for years at this point

1:00:52

but still maintain greater than 50% market

1:00:55

share until I think it was just

1:00:57

like one quarter ago or something like

1:00:59

that. There's more to it than just

1:01:01

that but a big part of it

1:01:04

is once you're bought into an ecosystem

1:01:06

you just you just reorder it you

1:01:08

just get the new one. Well good

1:01:11

luck Intel. Crow

1:01:13

might be for sale. Yeah,

1:01:15

and I don't know if

1:01:17

I love the list of

1:01:19

people on the buyers. Where's

1:01:21

our article for this? That's

1:01:23

the top. Since

1:01:25

Google was ruled a search monopoly

1:01:28

in last August, the Department of

1:01:30

Justice is now seeking a plethora

1:01:32

of penalties, including forcing Google to

1:01:34

sell Chrome. Open AI is 100%

1:01:36

interested in the browser, promising an

1:01:38

AI first experience that... editorialization on

1:01:40

the side. We all definitely want

1:01:42

everyone wants that people have been

1:01:44

begging for that. I love how

1:01:46

when I click in a Google

1:01:48

Doc and I just try to

1:01:50

position my cursor at the top

1:01:53

it opens up AI bullshit. It's

1:01:55

like hey can I help you?

1:01:57

with this oh wow yeah I

1:01:59

mean that one everybody gets one

1:02:01

right how could you possibly help

1:02:03

me with this I haven't started

1:02:05

typing yet it's a document it's

1:02:07

not even a response to an

1:02:09

email it's a document we're all

1:02:11

we're all super excited about this

1:02:13

thank you very much open aye

1:02:15

I think actually this would be

1:02:18

great if you did this please

1:02:20

actually you know what Maybe it's

1:02:22

good if they do. Because then

1:02:24

other browsers might do it. Hold

1:02:26

on, hold on, hold on, maybe

1:02:28

it doesn't do it in the

1:02:30

document. Maybe it only does it

1:02:32

in emails. I'm pretty sure it

1:02:34

does it in the document. I

1:02:36

swear it does too. Maybe there

1:02:38

needs to be content already in

1:02:40

the document. Is it just because

1:02:42

we're on G-sweet? No, it does

1:02:45

it for my Google sheets as

1:02:47

well. Yeah, it doesn't in the

1:02:49

document in there yet or anything,

1:02:51

I'm not sure. But anyways, maybe

1:02:53

they do this and then everyone

1:02:55

hates it and other people use

1:02:57

other browsers and that might be

1:02:59

good for the world or something,

1:03:01

we'll see. But anyways, there are

1:03:03

hopes that interested in the browser.

1:03:05

No, no, no. Yeah, I have,

1:03:07

uh, I have helped me write

1:03:10

and generate document, they show up

1:03:12

right at the top. When I

1:03:14

have entered, nothing into this document

1:03:16

yet. Because that's what bothers me.

1:03:18

I'm not entered. anything in the

1:03:20

document yet. Yeah. What could you

1:03:22

possibly be hoping to auto complete?

1:03:24

Generate document, help me write, templates,

1:03:26

and more. To be fair, I

1:03:28

can generate a document. No, I'm

1:03:30

going to generate document. Generate document.

1:03:32

Yeah, it's a wizard. That's why

1:03:35

it's able to help. Oh, well

1:03:37

I hate it. Because it's supposed

1:03:39

to help people with writers block.

1:03:41

That's why it's still there, even

1:03:43

if there's nothing else. But they

1:03:45

already have the templates button. The

1:03:47

thing that drives me nuts is...

1:03:49

No, this is stupid. No, I've

1:03:51

maintained it's stupid. Generate document, asks

1:03:53

me if I want to do,

1:03:55

what, party planning? Hold on, what's

1:03:57

that? Do I want to do

1:04:00

party planning? A newsletter. It doesn't

1:04:02

just stop there. To launch new

1:04:04

strawberry and matcha. Meeting notes, account

1:04:06

plan, blog post, business proposal? They're

1:04:08

different things! I don't like it

1:04:10

either, but they're different things. The

1:04:12

thing that drives me nuts is

1:04:14

that all those options are in

1:04:16

line with your cursor at the

1:04:18

top of the screen. Oh yeah,

1:04:20

so I can't click. Get out

1:04:22

of the way. It's so annoying.

1:04:24

Anyway, like I don't even mind,

1:04:27

I don't even mind this up

1:04:29

here. Yeah, that's fine. Like fine,

1:04:31

whatever, be there. But, oh, you

1:04:33

know what, that's probably it. I

1:04:35

just don't have it activated. There

1:04:37

we go, that's the problem. Oh

1:04:39

God, you're gonna make me pay...

1:04:41

Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Yeah, I

1:04:43

mean, I do pay for it.

1:04:45

Pay for it. Pay for it.

1:04:47

Pay for it on my stupid

1:04:49

work account. Do we have to

1:04:52

keep G-sweet forever? You know, Luke

1:04:54

interacts with sales employees at large

1:04:56

companies at a moment. We had

1:04:58

some back and forths and they

1:05:00

didn't give us as much of

1:05:02

a discount on our G suite

1:05:04

thing as we had last year

1:05:06

because they were really trying to

1:05:08

push us to pay for the

1:05:10

AI thing, but we did not

1:05:12

pay for AI tools. And

1:05:15

I based they were very pushy

1:05:17

about why and I told them

1:05:20

And we're good They were pushy

1:05:22

about why they're so helpful. Why

1:05:24

don't you want the AI tools?

1:05:26

Oh because I'm trash them trash.

1:05:29

They're so bad Like it's not

1:05:31

even like so bad. They're in

1:05:33

the way. Yeah, they're I am

1:05:36

trying to get work done They're

1:05:38

invasive, they're often not helpful yet,

1:05:40

blah, blah, blah, blah. Maybe it's

1:05:43

a thing in the future, but

1:05:45

it's not right now. And it's

1:05:47

really expensive per employee. So like,

1:05:49

getting the actual value out of

1:05:52

that when there are so many

1:05:54

free tools out there that take

1:05:56

almost no additional lift? And in

1:05:59

a lot of cases better. Yeah.

1:06:01

Gemini's doing well right now, but

1:06:03

I mean... the whoever's winning the

1:06:05

race is is constantly changing. Anyways,

1:06:08

Open AI is interested in buying

1:06:10

Chrome. They also, they, they, they,

1:06:12

they even just buy access to

1:06:15

Google search index with an exact

1:06:17

stating in an email that was

1:06:19

revealed in the trial. We believe

1:06:21

having multiple partners and in particular

1:06:24

Google's API would enable us to

1:06:26

provide a better product to users.

1:06:28

Open AI has reportedly considered buying

1:06:31

its own chromium-based browser, hiring former

1:06:33

Google developers Ben Goodger. Oh, wow.

1:06:35

And Darren Fisher, who helped to

1:06:37

bring chrome to market. Yahoo? Of

1:06:40

course, why not? Yeah, who still

1:06:42

exists. How does Yahoo still exist?

1:06:44

I don't understand. I feel like

1:06:47

that'll be a wild company to

1:06:49

work for. Every once in a

1:06:51

while, every once in a while,

1:06:53

I end up on like Yahoo

1:06:56

Finance because I need to see

1:06:58

like, like the history for a

1:07:00

particular stock ticket or whatever, yeah.

1:07:03

Who is using Yahoo? I don't

1:07:05

know. Yeah, see someone said Yahoo

1:07:07

Finance is great. Yeah, it's like

1:07:09

the one thing people see. I

1:07:12

still have Yahoo email. My dad

1:07:14

uses their email. Anytime I see

1:07:16

anyone with a Yahoo email. I

1:07:19

have a really strong like throwback

1:07:21

moment. Like wow, like you really,

1:07:23

you just have really just dealt

1:07:26

with that for a long time,

1:07:28

haven't you? Like dang. That's not

1:07:30

what you were going to say

1:07:32

at all. We all know what

1:07:34

you were going to say. No,

1:07:36

they're a very strong person. We

1:07:38

all know what you were going

1:07:41

to say. Why don't you just

1:07:43

say it? They considered the impact

1:07:45

on everyone in their life. If

1:07:47

they changed emails and how they

1:07:49

might be harder to contact, so

1:07:51

they just stuck through it and

1:07:53

kept using it. It's good. Very

1:07:55

strong person. I'm impressed. Tears streaming

1:07:58

down their face. Anyways, Yahoo's looking

1:08:00

to run its own browser. because

1:08:02

why not, either through developing or

1:08:04

buying one, Yahoo Search General Manager

1:08:06

Brian Prof's estimated Yahoo's search market

1:08:08

share could jump from 3% to

1:08:10

double digits if they're able to

1:08:13

buy Chrome. Wow, double digits. I

1:08:15

would hope. Also, Yahoo estimating that

1:08:17

they have 3% market share seems

1:08:19

stunning to me. We're going to

1:08:21

use the Chrome browser to advantage

1:08:23

our own search product exactly the

1:08:25

same way that Google's doing it.

1:08:27

Am I missing something here? I'm

1:08:30

sure I'm missing something here. Wasn't

1:08:32

there a South Park episode about

1:08:34

this? Walmart, Jim's drugs? It's just

1:08:36

going to happen to Yahoo. Honestly,

1:08:38

also, Yahoo estimating that they have

1:08:40

3% market share seems stunning to

1:08:42

me. I don't know if that's

1:08:45

true. Because it doesn't Japan, these

1:08:47

Yahoo or something. I forgot that

1:08:49

might be a thing. Handyman says

1:08:51

Google is a monopoly, others are

1:08:53

not. But the thing is that

1:08:55

like the same behaviors that turn

1:08:57

you into a monopoly. Are like

1:08:59

just as wrong when you're not

1:09:02

the monopoly but while you're building

1:09:04

toward being a monopoly? That's like

1:09:06

kind of the whole idea of

1:09:08

antitrust There's been a little talk

1:09:10

of spinning off chrome into its

1:09:12

own independent company as Google has

1:09:14

contended that chrome can't survive on

1:09:17

its own Sorry, there's been little

1:09:19

talk not there has been a

1:09:21

little talk perplexity Actually agrees and

1:09:23

would rather Google keep chrome instead

1:09:25

of being forced to sell it

1:09:27

to another company like open AI

1:09:29

Perplexity is a competitor to open

1:09:31

AI just to be clear. However

1:09:34

if a sale is forced Perplexity

1:09:36

would like would be down to

1:09:38

buy chrome as well Obviously, they

1:09:40

probably just don't have the I'd

1:09:42

be down to buy chrome if

1:09:44

I could afford it. We should

1:09:46

get we should get all YouTubeers

1:09:49

together We can make our own

1:09:51

browser if you want and buy

1:09:53

chrome surprisingly easy. We should just

1:09:55

buy chrome nice Why

1:09:58

if everyone One of our

1:10:00

viewers contributed $1. YouTubeers could

1:10:02

buy Chrome from Google and

1:10:04

then we could own Chrome.

1:10:07

Why? Because Chrome is what

1:10:09

you use to watch YouTube.

1:10:11

Okay, but you can watch

1:10:13

on other browsers. If you

1:10:15

are a dinosaur and you're

1:10:17

not already watching on your

1:10:19

phone or your TV or...

1:10:21

Firefox. Yeah, that's true. Well

1:10:24

people don't watch YouTube on

1:10:26

Firefox. They watch float plane

1:10:28

on Firefox. So we'd only

1:10:30

be buying it for like

1:10:32

millennials that are still using

1:10:34

computers. Yeah. To buy their

1:10:36

airplane tickets. No, that's

1:10:38

a thing. No, I agree. Yeah, that's

1:10:40

a thing. I do not make me

1:10:42

buy airplane tickets on a phone, dude.

1:10:44

No, I can't. I will go on

1:10:46

a computer. I can't. We were shopping

1:10:48

for Yvonne's getting a new car. Big

1:10:50

purchases need big screen. We were shopping

1:10:52

for it, and I was trying to

1:10:54

look at it on the phone, and

1:10:56

it's fine, but I can't compare. Yeah.

1:10:58

I need to compare. So we ended

1:11:00

up at her desktop, the nice big

1:11:02

ultra-wide monitor, with the spreadsheet, with all

1:11:04

the links. You were talking earlier in

1:11:06

the show about how Gen Z is

1:11:08

much more gullible. Is this part of

1:11:10

why? The tools that they'd have don't

1:11:12

naturally lend themselves to like comparisons. And

1:11:14

they're not, maybe they're just not accustomed

1:11:17

to making comparisons. I could kind of,

1:11:19

I could kind of see that. Like

1:11:21

the friction to make a comparison on

1:11:23

desktop? I mean, we've had arrow snap

1:11:25

on Windows for like 20 years or

1:11:27

whatever, right? The computer almost wants you

1:11:29

to do it. Yeah, you just, you

1:11:31

take your one thing and you throw

1:11:33

it on the one side, you take

1:11:35

your other thing, you throw it on

1:11:37

the other side. And you're just like,

1:11:39

yeah. And you make comparisons, whereas phones.

1:11:41

No, it sucks. Yeah. Sam on decks.

1:11:43

Oh, come on. That's a very high

1:11:45

friction to go. take your phone somewhere

1:11:47

and plug it into something and yeah

1:11:49

I mean I'm not being serious I

1:11:51

see I so you should be serious

1:11:53

about our sponsors yeah BDB B99 split

1:11:55

screen on a phone is awful it

1:11:57

really is like let's try it it's

1:11:59

one of those things that I basically

1:12:01

ignored any time I was reviewing a

1:12:03

phone yeah it's I just don't use

1:12:05

it like what I want an even

1:12:07

smaller screen you gotta be kidding me

1:12:09

cool I can look at the tire

1:12:11

on this one car and the tire

1:12:13

on this other car and compare it

1:12:15

that that that way now I think

1:12:17

that's actually a pretty good point Yeah,

1:12:20

and like no ad ados in

1:12:22

float plane chat says no, they're

1:12:24

just lazy people don't want to

1:12:26

self-educate anymore I don't think that's

1:12:28

it I think they think they

1:12:30

are self-educating so we're trying to

1:12:32

figure out like what is the

1:12:34

Like you've identified the disease, but

1:12:36

we're trying to figure out like

1:12:38

you know what infected them. Yeah,

1:12:40

like where did this disease come

1:12:42

from? Why? Apparently there is decks

1:12:44

wireless. Okay, you could do that

1:12:46

but You're still just sitting at

1:12:48

a computer. It's not the point.

1:12:50

And the habit, the habit, of

1:12:52

whenever you do things, hold on.

1:12:54

I'm sorry. The issue is that

1:12:56

they don't have the habit of

1:12:58

going and sitting down at a

1:13:00

computer to do something. So they're

1:13:02

not going to do that regardless

1:13:04

of whether it's sitting down at

1:13:06

Samsung decks or sitting down at

1:13:08

a gaming desktop or whatever else.

1:13:10

It's just that that was our

1:13:12

habit. When we needed to do

1:13:14

something online, we would go to

1:13:16

the computer. I can buy things

1:13:18

online and I will, if I'm

1:13:20

just grabbing some like hooks for

1:13:22

my wall to hang things in

1:13:24

my garage, whatever, I'll just like

1:13:26

go, I'll just find the first

1:13:28

thing because it doesn't make much

1:13:30

of a difference if I pay

1:13:32

$3 for it or. $5. Like

1:13:34

yeah, and one of them I'm

1:13:36

paying 66% more, but I don't

1:13:38

I don't care. I'm making a

1:13:41

quick decision Okay, I found this

1:13:43

it ships into okay, boom done

1:13:45

Google pay done Right, but for

1:13:47

something like you said flights vehicles

1:13:49

houses I'm at my desktop. I

1:13:51

got to be and that's just

1:13:53

like not a thing for the

1:13:55

younger the younger generation apparently So

1:13:57

good luck on your sale of

1:13:59

chrome Google Our

1:14:02

discussion question, is consumer welfare really

1:14:04

the best lens to look at

1:14:06

antitrust through if breaking up Google

1:14:08

only results in different bazillion dollar

1:14:10

companies turning surveillance capitalism up to

1:14:13

11? Yeah, it's interesting that it's

1:14:15

like an extremely ethically gray AI

1:14:17

companies and Yahoo for some reason

1:14:19

are the only ones seemingly jumping

1:14:21

on this. Yeah, who would want

1:14:23

to own all your browsing data

1:14:26

other than someone who wants to

1:14:28

capitalize on it, right? Like there's

1:14:30

no good guy is going to

1:14:32

want Chrome. Yeah, you're not going

1:14:34

to make a pricing model for

1:14:36

Chrome itself. Like that was my

1:14:39

point with the YouTubers buying it

1:14:41

and being like, why? And that's

1:14:43

exactly it. Why? There's no reason

1:14:45

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1:14:47

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1:14:50

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I don't know why they asked

1:18:15

me to clarify that. It's been

1:18:17

a very long time I think

1:18:19

since any browser has been case

1:18:21

sensitive. Yeah. What else do you

1:18:23

want to talk about? You want

1:18:25

to talk about oblivion? Or did

1:18:28

you kind of already? Or like,

1:18:30

what's your delio there? We can.

1:18:32

There's more announcements. How do we

1:18:34

want to deal with that? Yeah,

1:18:36

why not? Oh, no. We already...

1:18:39

Guys, we have to do actual

1:18:41

topics at some point. Why are

1:18:43

you pressuring me? Let's talk about

1:18:45

oblivion then. Okay, I have to

1:18:47

be. Where's the... Bethesda

1:18:50

Shadow drops the oblivion

1:18:52

remaster and everyone liked

1:18:54

that. Kind of. There's

1:18:56

some sources here from

1:18:58

Gainesville and Peezy Gamer.

1:19:00

A lot of places

1:19:02

have talked about this.

1:19:04

The notes say, like

1:19:06

an arrow to the

1:19:08

knee of my free

1:19:10

time, the oblivion remaster

1:19:12

was announced and released

1:19:14

with one trailer. and

1:19:16

two game engines, which

1:19:19

I'll explain in a

1:19:21

moment. It got over

1:19:23

150,000 concurrent players on

1:19:25

steam on the first

1:19:27

day despite having effectively

1:19:29

no advertising, and also

1:19:31

despite the fact that

1:19:33

it is free on

1:19:35

game pass. Red at

1:19:37

slash our slash oblivion

1:19:39

abominations has gone wild

1:19:41

with all of the

1:19:43

characters that people are

1:19:45

making. Oh yes, oblivion

1:19:47

character creators is fantastic.

1:19:49

Wow. Someone made pot

1:19:51

of greed. Oh, boy.

1:19:53

Oh, man. Oh, nice.

1:19:55

Squidward. Let's go. Oh.

1:19:57

Anyways. Good stuff. Oblivion's

1:19:59

great. free keys to

1:20:01

the entire Sky Bolivian

1:20:03

dev team. It's doesn't

1:20:05

here to make them

1:20:07

feel a little less

1:20:09

sad about wasting years

1:20:11

of their lives. Oh

1:20:13

my god. Many, many

1:20:15

years of their lives.

1:20:17

Also, someone posted this,

1:20:19

which honestly, I didn't.

1:20:23

I might this weekend, but I

1:20:25

didn't. The first thing, the literal

1:20:27

first thing that I heard about

1:20:29

it, that wasn't just a rumor,

1:20:31

was that NPCs didn't have schedules

1:20:33

anymore. And what I really liked

1:20:35

back in the day was being

1:20:37

a sneaky little thief guy and

1:20:39

stealing everything. And my favorite quest

1:20:42

chains were the Dark Brotherhood and

1:20:44

the Thieves Guild. And by far

1:20:46

my favorite quest chain in a

1:20:48

morrowand was, in regards to the

1:20:50

factions, was the Thieves Guild. Without

1:20:52

schedules I was like what the

1:20:54

heck and then somebody corrected that

1:20:56

for me and apparently they do

1:20:58

have schedules So I don't know

1:21:00

where that rumor came from because

1:21:03

I Once I first heard that

1:21:05

I looked it up and found

1:21:07

it quite a few people saying

1:21:09

it But they do seem to

1:21:11

have schedules. I think the confusion

1:21:13

there might be tied into that

1:21:15

one trailer two engines comment that

1:21:17

was made because the ue five

1:21:19

engine is Just dealing with the

1:21:21

graphics the game logic is still

1:21:24

being ran by What is it

1:21:26

called game Brio? I think it's

1:21:28

game Brio the the engine that

1:21:30

was originally used for oblivion which

1:21:32

has created in my opinion a

1:21:34

pretty fantastic result actually because I

1:21:36

was very standoffish I first of

1:21:38

all I was I'm Even with

1:21:40

it being out now and now

1:21:42

I do own it I was

1:21:45

much more interested in and still

1:21:47

am much more interested in the

1:21:49

Skyblivian project that's still coming this

1:21:51

year. And I'll probably be diving

1:21:53

in more so to that. I'm

1:21:55

gonna dabble with this remaster, but

1:21:57

I don't know if I'm gonna

1:21:59

like fully try to beat the

1:22:01

game or anything. And I'll. I'll

1:22:03

be more interested in the Skyblivian

1:22:06

remaster. But yeah, there was a

1:22:08

bunch of things that put me

1:22:10

off. There's the schedules thing. I

1:22:12

heard that in the Yula, they

1:22:14

talked down on mods, but apparently

1:22:16

they're not against mods at all.

1:22:18

And Nexus mods, I believe, already

1:22:20

has like... I think Berington was

1:22:22

saying last night that they already

1:22:24

have like hundreds of mods for

1:22:27

the game and it's been out

1:22:29

for days. I've heard a lot

1:22:31

of them are Dragon Drop because

1:22:33

it's the same like core engine

1:22:35

in a way. That makes so

1:22:37

much sense. So it should be

1:22:39

a little more approachable than something

1:22:41

like I think SE took a

1:22:43

while to get in because it

1:22:45

was slightly different and then... Skyram

1:22:48

VR also was very difficult if

1:22:50

I remember. Yeah, so there's 529

1:22:52

mods already, which is pretty wild.

1:22:54

And there's some things that is

1:22:56

like kind of broken, like I

1:22:58

couldn't go to 1440P. Oh, I

1:23:00

already clicked away from it. And

1:23:02

now it's on steak? Why are

1:23:04

you on steak? I must have

1:23:06

clicked an ad. I thought you're

1:23:09

a vegetarian. Gambling vegetarian. I

1:23:12

eat right, I eat unknown mushrooms

1:23:14

or something. Anyways, yeah, but apparently

1:23:16

there's like an I&I fix that

1:23:18

you can use to solve that

1:23:20

and stuff. But anyways, it seems

1:23:22

cool and something that I really

1:23:24

appreciate about it is that it

1:23:26

has the same quirks that it

1:23:28

used to have because the underlying

1:23:30

engine is still gamebrio, despite UE5

1:23:32

taking over the visualization stuff. There's

1:23:34

some funk on like how... the

1:23:36

color palette and lighting works is

1:23:38

different and more tame than the

1:23:40

original oblivion because the original oblivion

1:23:43

was like bloom everywhere and everything's

1:23:45

glowing all the time so if

1:23:47

you want that back you can

1:23:49

mod that back in I think

1:23:51

the game probably looks better I've

1:23:53

watched more than just my hands

1:23:55

I washed my whole arm here

1:23:57

check out you did yep Why?

1:24:00

Cool. But yeah, it seems it

1:24:02

seems cool. I am still more

1:24:04

interested in Sky Bolivian and I

1:24:06

recommend that you guys still look

1:24:09

forward towards that project and maybe

1:24:11

don't tap yourself out on the

1:24:13

remaster because Skyblivian in my opinion

1:24:15

just looks better. That team is

1:24:17

being very gracious right now, I

1:24:19

think. They've made multiple posts. Thank

1:24:21

you for not shutting down our

1:24:23

project that we've been working on

1:24:25

for years. We will never make

1:24:27

fun of your games again, even

1:24:29

though they are trash. Well, they

1:24:31

used to be good. This one

1:24:33

was. Some of the newer ones

1:24:35

are not as good, but thank

1:24:38

you so much. Also, are you

1:24:40

ever going to do a new

1:24:42

Elder Scrolls game? Remaking of Living

1:24:44

doesn't really count. That's what we

1:24:46

were doing. They did have an

1:24:48

outside studio did the work on

1:24:50

this virtuous. I think it's virtuous.

1:24:52

Linus found a quarter in the

1:24:54

toilet. Something like that. That would

1:24:56

be a great reason. But yeah,

1:24:58

I don't know. It's cool. I

1:25:00

think there's a lot of people

1:25:02

going with the like, this is

1:25:04

an example of how new games

1:25:07

suck now. And I mean, oblivion

1:25:09

kind of sucks. It's literally the

1:25:11

original horse armor. It is the

1:25:13

original. There's new horse armor. Oh,

1:25:15

that was the other reason why

1:25:17

I didn't exactly want to jump

1:25:19

on it right away. Was that

1:25:21

they sold horse armor again. I

1:25:23

don't know. Did you see this?

1:25:25

No. Oh, Libyan remastered. So if

1:25:27

you look at the steam page.

1:25:29

Oh, hold on. Whoop. This is

1:25:31

not lying. Let's go. If you

1:25:33

go to the steam page and

1:25:36

you scroll down, they make it

1:25:38

look like the deluxe edition. is

1:25:40

needed for the expansions. Oh, interesting.

1:25:42

Because you go up here and

1:25:44

you're, okay, I'm buying Oblivion Remastered.

1:25:46

Yeah. I scroll down. It doesn't

1:25:48

say up here, like, oh, it

1:25:50

includes the expansions by the way.

1:25:52

By the deluxe. Oh my god,

1:25:54

they want these two options. 50

1:25:56

US dollars for this game. It's

1:25:58

a lot. Or is it less

1:26:00

than that? Is it 40? I

1:26:02

think it's less than that. 45?

1:26:05

I don't know, whatever it is.

1:26:07

Either way. You scroll down, you

1:26:09

see this, and this is the

1:26:11

first time that I saw Shivering

1:26:13

Isles and Knights of the Nine.

1:26:15

I have to buy horse armor

1:26:17

effectively. Glarias. That sucks. So I

1:26:19

refused to buy it originally, because

1:26:21

I was just like, there's no

1:26:23

way. I'm not doing that. No

1:26:25

chance. Turns out the base game

1:26:27

does have the expansions, but a

1:26:29

ton of people didn't even know

1:26:32

that, because this is super misleading.

1:26:34

So bought the deluxe edition, effectively

1:26:36

just buying some armor, some weapons,

1:26:38

and horse armor, along with an

1:26:40

art book and a soundtrack. Technically

1:26:42

what they're saying is true. does

1:26:44

include the expansions yeah it does

1:26:46

so this is they just don't

1:26:48

point out like and digital deluxe

1:26:50

content technically is some armor weapons

1:26:52

and horse armor everything they say

1:26:54

is true to me there's a

1:26:56

lot of misleading stuff but this

1:26:58

is no no I'm not saying

1:27:01

it's not misleading I'm just saying

1:27:03

it is technically factual the the

1:27:05

in the border I know they

1:27:07

say digital deluxe content on the

1:27:09

right And then over here it

1:27:11

says includes but the border around

1:27:13

the base game is different than

1:27:15

the border around the other two

1:27:17

things 100% like it really feels

1:27:19

like it is and I don't

1:27:21

think Yeah, like under here you

1:27:23

look at what it includes in

1:27:25

details the base game and then

1:27:27

way separate from that it says

1:27:30

shivering owls and nights in an

1:27:32

expansion. It really does And it's

1:27:34

just I don't see it mentioned

1:27:36

anywhere else that it does include

1:27:38

those in the base game So

1:27:40

that was another reason why I

1:27:42

held off But then I figured

1:27:44

out that's great. Yeah, it was

1:27:46

just misleading, but it does include

1:27:48

it So no, I didn't get

1:27:50

the digital deluxe because screw that

1:27:52

noise. I'm not buying horse armor

1:27:54

How will your horse be armored?

1:27:56

The funny thing about horse armor

1:27:59

in the game and one of

1:28:01

their justifications for it was that

1:28:03

it is in fact purely cosmetic.

1:28:05

It does not in fact armor

1:28:07

your horse. And your horse can

1:28:09

get attacked. Yes, very much so.

1:28:11

Your horse can become very unalived.

1:28:13

Literally doesn't help you. They states

1:28:15

all DLC was included in their

1:28:17

presentation when they shadow dropped it.

1:28:19

So this is piss poor self-education.

1:28:21

That's a hilarious take in my

1:28:23

opinion because you're now saying that

1:28:25

everyone that should buy this has

1:28:28

to watch their presentation. That is

1:28:30

a comically bad take. Which is

1:28:32

actually hilarious and not how like

1:28:34

people work or really anything works.

1:28:36

That's brutal. Whiskey and we love

1:28:38

you. Thank you for subscribing to

1:28:40

float plane but that is a

1:28:42

terrible take. And again I did

1:28:44

end up figuring out how it

1:28:46

worked and did end up buying

1:28:48

it. So I think the cell

1:28:50

of education was fine. It just

1:28:52

shouldn't be that hard. Yeah, it's

1:28:54

a little ridiculous, but it's doing

1:28:57

super well. They have tons of

1:28:59

players and I think they should

1:29:01

be happy. I'm just, I am

1:29:03

at least partially holding back for

1:29:05

the Skyblivian version, which I will

1:29:07

be very excited about. I had

1:29:09

to put my appointment back on.

1:29:11

So that's why you washed off

1:29:13

the resin. I knew, because I

1:29:15

saw it on you earlier, but

1:29:17

I was prepping just, anyways, it's

1:29:19

fine. Uh-huh, I got him! Oh,

1:29:21

M.G. Sammy, I bought the deluxe

1:29:23

edition because I thought the horse

1:29:26

armor meme was funny and I

1:29:28

wanted the cool armor, but I

1:29:30

don't know how to get it.

1:29:32

It's a quest, Sammy. My goodness.

1:29:34

No, Sammy. I thought you bought

1:29:36

it for the expansions. Yeah, that

1:29:38

was not the, uh, vindication that

1:29:40

you thought it was. It was

1:29:42

actually just more sad. Maybe you

1:29:44

just didn't self-educate on what Sammy

1:29:46

said. That's true. I didn't self-educated,

1:29:48

I didn't self-educate-educate-educate-educate-educate-educate-educate-ed-ed-ed-ed-ed-ed-d,-d,-d,-d,-d,-d,-d,-d,-d,-d,-d,-d,-ded,-ded,-ded,-ded,-ded,-ded,-ded,-d Classic influencer. That's

1:29:50

why everybody fucking hates them. It's

1:29:52

worse though. What he said is

1:29:55

like just actually worse, I think.

1:29:57

I know. I don't know what

1:29:59

to do with him. How do

1:30:01

you spend more money on a

1:30:03

company? On the one hand, he

1:30:05

does a great job. On the

1:30:07

other hand... He's definitely going to

1:30:09

come to softball night this year

1:30:11

and I hate that. Dude, he's

1:30:13

infuriating. Why is that? He's just,

1:30:15

it's like he's trying, it's like

1:30:17

he's trying to make me lose.

1:30:19

It's softball, I want to win.

1:30:21

Softball is very competitive. Company softball

1:30:24

is in. Is this because he

1:30:26

goes on your team too much

1:30:28

and he's bad or is it

1:30:30

because he's really good and he

1:30:32

goes on the other team? He's

1:30:34

a pure agent of chaos. Like

1:30:36

he ran over Ariana. Yeah, I

1:30:38

was there for that. Literally like

1:30:40

plowed her over. Right through. Yeah,

1:30:42

just you never want to plow

1:30:44

the head of HR. Wasn't in

1:30:46

that much of a hurry, realist,

1:30:48

well he was, but didn't need

1:30:51

to be. I never lost. Flawless

1:30:53

win rate? I don't believe him.

1:30:55

Has he only been there once?

1:30:57

I don't believe him. No, no,

1:30:59

he's been there more than once.

1:31:01

Oh no, yeah, you know, he

1:31:03

comes pretty regularly. Sammy, I'm looking

1:31:05

forward to seeing you there. By

1:31:07

the way, Chewy's organizing a batting

1:31:09

cage thing. Get in touch so

1:31:11

that maybe you'll actually hit something

1:31:13

this year. Oh. I'll see you

1:31:15

there. Alright.

1:31:18

Okay, what else we got? Yeah,

1:31:20

plenty of things. Oh, we do

1:31:23

need to ding him out. We

1:31:25

need a bell? E-mot? Yeah, how

1:31:27

do we not have a dingamote

1:31:29

in the in the float plane

1:31:31

chat? What is your team not

1:31:33

like doing work or what? Sorry,

1:31:36

I'm just feeling kind of aggressive

1:31:38

right now. They are doing work

1:31:40

on things we can't talk about.

1:31:42

Oh, like what? Good stuff. Yep.

1:31:44

You sure? Yep. Dude, this was

1:31:46

actually, this week was kind of

1:31:49

awesome. I don't know if we've

1:31:51

revealed this yet, but whatever, I'm

1:31:53

going to do it. We shot

1:31:55

a collab with kit. Boga. That

1:31:57

was so much fun. There's going

1:32:00

to be videos on both of

1:32:02

our channels. I'm not going to