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3:30

Welcome to the way back. Chappelle

3:32

Lacy. What's up? Thanks for having

3:34

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dates at Chappelle c.com. So I

3:42

asked you before, I usually start

3:44

by asking this seat right here,

3:46

have you ever sat in one

3:48

of the, how old 38? No

3:51

37. 37. So you're a young

3:53

man. Uh, when, when would you

3:55

have gotten them? One of these

3:57

were clearly. So, uh, my family,

3:59

we were poor, right? And we

4:01

were like section eight housing and

4:03

like all like the welfare and

4:05

all that stuff. And you know,

4:07

my mom, it was five, it

4:09

was five kids or whatever. And

4:11

so whenever we would have to

4:13

go to like doctors appointments or

4:16

anything like that, there was like

4:18

this service for poor families. Nah.

4:20

Nah. Nah, dude. And they had

4:22

us up in this room. I

4:24

remember me and my brother, we

4:26

sat in the back, we was

4:28

like, yo. We felt like, we

4:30

were on a spaceship. Yeah, man.

4:32

We felt like, we was like,

4:34

so it wasn't even the car

4:36

you had or somebody you knew.

4:38

But we didn't have no car.

4:41

Was it a station wagon, pick

4:43

up service? I didn't know. Yeah,

4:45

yeah, they're robbing you got a

4:47

lot of kids. So that's like

4:49

my fondest memory of like that

4:51

and just like, and do you

4:53

remember the car? Do you remember

4:55

what kind it was? No, I

4:57

can't remember the car, but I

4:59

just remember, yeah, it was the

5:01

station wagon or whatever, and it

5:03

was like, you know, I just

5:06

remember sitting in the back, because

5:08

they had this in the very

5:10

back. Yes. And I just remember,

5:12

yeah, the way, yeah, the way

5:14

back. I just remember me and

5:16

my brother being back there going

5:18

to our doctor's appointment, get shots

5:20

or something like that. I don't

5:22

know, some crazy. But yeah, as

5:24

soon as you brought it up,

5:26

that memory immediately popped up. So

5:28

you say mom, there's five of

5:31

you, four siblings? Four, yeah, four

5:33

of us. How many brothers and

5:35

sisters, what do we have? Because

5:37

my family life is so great,

5:39

I mean I have a lot,

5:41

it's a lot, but uh, the

5:43

initial, the initial four. The initial,

5:45

oh yeah, three brothers, one sister.

5:47

Okay. Yeah, three brothers, one sister,

5:49

but like, of all, a lot.

5:51

But growing up back then, it's

5:53

just a five of you, that

5:56

your nucleus original, and where are

5:58

you? Arizona, Arizona, Arizona. right, and

6:00

like Mesa Mesa, Mesa, Arizona. You

6:02

say your section eight, so you're

6:04

not taking, so what is a

6:06

vacation for you guys? We ain't

6:08

gonna go on vacation. We went

6:10

on summer camp at the beach.

6:12

I said, you know, we did,

6:14

we went outside. No, we didn't

6:16

have no vacations. We, it was

6:18

so funny, we had this program.

6:21

At my junior high, during the summer,

6:23

shout out to Powell junior high, I

6:25

don't even think it's junior high anymore,

6:27

but they would do this thing called

6:30

the pay program. And basically they would

6:32

take all the bad students to keep

6:34

them off the street over the summer

6:36

and they would bring them to this

6:38

thing called pay program. And basically we

6:41

got paid to go to summer school

6:43

and do like, and also we would

6:45

do like community work. And we would

6:47

do that throughout the summer and you

6:49

get paid for it. They paid the

6:52

bad kids to keep them off the

6:54

street. That's them. You can't be bad

6:56

at that. It was that it was

6:58

that pal dream high. My junior high

7:00

is not a junior high anymore because

7:03

it was just had no money. They

7:05

got gifted and tiled. So now it's

7:07

like a I think it's a place

7:09

where you can go and get your

7:11

GED. I think that's what it is

7:14

like. So it stays for the kids

7:16

in that lane. You know, still in

7:18

that lane. You know, my school, we

7:20

had a bad school, you know, so

7:22

funny. So what was funny, so what

7:24

was funny, so what was funny, so

7:27

junior high for us was seven through

7:29

ninth, right? So high school was 10,

7:31

11, 12. So I remember my last

7:33

year of junior high, my principal came

7:35

up to me and he said, It

7:38

was the first semester. He goes, I'll

7:40

let you go right now. I go,

7:42

what? He goes, I'll let you graduate

7:44

right now. He goes, we can finish

7:46

it right now. You get a long

7:49

summer. Because he wanted me out that

7:51

bad, because of how bad of a

7:53

kid I was. He's like, he goes,

7:55

we'll make it happen. I'll make sure

7:57

you get an A in every class.

8:00

goes, but just do not come back.

8:02

And I was like, I can't do

8:04

that. No, you had that past me

8:06

take it. No, I couldn't. Because I

8:08

was petty, you know, I was petty,

8:11

you know what I mean? I was

8:13

like, no, you ain't gonna give me

8:15

like that Mr. Heath. You know, shout

8:17

out Mr. Heath. But yeah, it was

8:19

pretty funny though, that was like the

8:21

thing he came and said. I was

8:24

just, I was a wrecking ball, man.

8:26

Like I said, I was class comedian.

8:28

I was class comedian there. Yeah, you

8:30

were telling me. That's immediate. Well, look

8:32

at this. Anyway, so yeah, that's what

8:35

I look like in junior high. But

8:37

it's funny because it does kind of

8:39

look like a mugshot in a weird

8:41

way. Yeah, I was going to say,

8:43

what's behind you? It almost does look

8:46

like it's highly. When you quickly look

8:48

at that, it definitely looks like a

8:50

fuckshot. Bro, what am I

8:52

upset about? My upset, like, what am

8:55

I... But yeah, it said I enjoy

8:57

making people laugh. Anyways, yes, Chappelle Harris

8:59

is my real last name, because my

9:02

stepdad, his last name is Harrison. When

9:04

I was born, he was at my

9:06

birth. He gave me the last name,

9:08

Harris. Your stepdad was at your birth?

9:11

Yeah, he's been in my license. He's

9:13

been alive, bro. I came out having

9:15

to hang out with that dude. So

9:18

what kind of stuff is he doing

9:20

back in the day with your kids?

9:22

Not working. I tell you that much.

9:25

I knew that much. You think I

9:27

didn't know that Jerry. He just had

9:29

multiple uniforms in the closet. I was

9:31

like, bro, you do not. You're always

9:34

around, Jerry. How are you a security

9:36

in a CEO? You

9:39

know, just trying to make it by,

9:41

no one, we lived in that tiny

9:43

apartment, but not my stepdad's cool though.

9:45

But yeah, he was, you know, you

9:47

know, interesting. You know, like it was

9:49

very hectic with my stepfather, like it

9:51

was a lot of like bad shit.

9:53

I mean, you know, I give my

9:55

stepdad the benefit of the doubt because

9:58

he was 17 years old. way when

10:00

I was born. My stepdad only been

10:02

17 for like a couple weeks. So

10:04

he was 60. He was got his

10:06

license. Yeah, he was 16 in my,

10:08

when I was in my mom's belly.

10:10

You know what I'm saying? So, so

10:12

I give him the benefit of the

10:14

doubt. Yeah, he was crazy. He was

10:16

like the stuff he's doing with you

10:19

as kids. Is he taking the places?

10:21

Well, he tried, he was, he was

10:23

able to, yeah, he would take us

10:25

to the movies. I mean, he took

10:27

us to see. Yeah, we saw like

10:29

the craziest shit in the movie theaters,

10:31

but he would just take us, you

10:33

know, which is kind of funny when

10:35

you think about it now, you know,

10:37

taking kids to see Don't be in

10:40

minutes, because that movie was pretty crazy.

10:42

You know, and he had like weird

10:44

talents, you know, like he was a

10:46

really good cook, you know, oddly enough.

10:48

I was like, I ain't never met

10:50

about that. But that man could take

10:52

a baloney sandwich and make that shit.

10:54

What he could do, he could do,

10:56

he could give me some of his

10:59

recipes. Well, when Jerry could do, what

11:01

a baloney sandwich. Right, he's got, he's

11:03

got bomb potato salad. I remember that,

11:05

I'm telling you, Jerry could cook, he

11:07

could, he like, get down, he still

11:09

can. What else did he make that

11:11

was so good, right? You know, he

11:13

would take like those like, Who cooks

11:15

better real quick? Jerry or mom? Jerry

11:17

did. My mom wouldn't have met that.

11:20

My mom would have met that at

11:22

Harvey. Yeah, because Jerry was like the

11:24

chef. You know, if he applied that,

11:26

he'd probably be like a dope chef

11:28

right now. Because, bro, you know, like,

11:30

you know, like, you probably ate this

11:32

at the, as a kid, where they

11:34

would take the hot dogs, cut them

11:36

up, and then put them in baked

11:39

beans. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So

11:41

Jerry, yeah, like, like, like, like, I

11:43

don't know, like, like, I don't know.

11:45

You know what I mean? Like, he

11:47

was that good. Also, he was really

11:49

good at basketball, which was funny. You

11:51

know what I mean? Because he's like

11:53

five, six. It was so funny that

11:55

he was really, brother, Brooke had dropped

11:57

threes, like it was nothing. I'm like,

12:00

bro, he would go out there and

12:02

play on the courts. I remember we'd

12:04

watch him as kids, me and my

12:06

brother, you know, but I hated him

12:08

so much. I hated like watching him

12:10

be good at basketball and just run

12:12

the court. You know what I mean?

12:14

And then also he could break dance.

12:16

Nah. I forget he's only six teams

12:18

in your life. Jerry's break there. Dude,

12:21

was he good? It was like, I

12:23

remember when he busted it out like

12:25

out of nowhere and I was like.

12:27

Where did this go? Because so, so

12:29

I had this radio that I like

12:31

in the living, well, it was, it

12:33

was theirs, it was my, it was

12:35

my folks, and my biggest thing like

12:37

was music, you know, like from the

12:40

time, from when I, when I discovered,

12:42

like my earliest, my earliest memory. earliest,

12:44

earliest memory is watching Bobby Brown's Every

12:46

little thing, I'm watching that music video.

12:48

Yeah, that was my, like, my earliest

12:50

memory was seeing that music video. You

12:52

know, so I was always fascinated by

12:54

music and, you know, I would listen

12:56

a lot of like. You know, my

12:58

stepdad was really into like West Coast

13:01

hip hop, but he was also into

13:03

like, like all that old like Zappin

13:05

Roger, you know, funk and like, you

13:07

know, like more bounce to the end,

13:09

like that kind of stuff. And so

13:11

I would hear that stuff and I

13:13

thought it was so dope. And one

13:15

day out of nowhere, he just started,

13:17

you know, I'm listening to the living

13:19

room. And he was like, what are

13:22

you doing? I was like, oh, I'm

13:24

just bumping the, I like this, I

13:26

like this CD or whatever. And then

13:28

out of nowhere, he just started going.

13:30

you know just started yeah yeah and

13:32

then just started like you never seen

13:34

it before never seen it did not

13:36

know that was in him because Jerry

13:38

like ever since I've known describe Jerry

13:41

what's he look like he's he's black

13:43

he's black in Mexican but he looks

13:45

a little bit more Mexican now no

13:47

he's five seven that's right you said

13:49

he's little you know which which I

13:51

think about it now with Jerry being

13:53

like is he jacked no he's not

13:55

he's not jack you know I think

13:57

about it with Jerry like Jerry like

13:59

being like you know like being like

14:02

you know what abusive or abusive or

14:04

whatever what abusive or whatever I'm like

14:06

I'm like you've been five, six this

14:08

whole time? I'm like, man, what? Let's

14:10

run it. I was like, let's run

14:12

it. Let's run it. You know, when

14:14

I think about it, yeah, my life

14:16

was crazy with him, but that was

14:18

like one thing about it. I remember,

14:20

and he's a bigger, he was a

14:23

bigger guy too, you know, but he

14:25

was just, he just out of nowhere,

14:27

just started busting these moves out to

14:29

where I was like, yo. And I

14:31

was like, you know, when I think

14:33

about it, yeah, like, yeah, my life

14:35

was crazy with him, but like, there

14:37

was times like. you know like I

14:39

was able to like smile at that

14:42

shit and that was like a cool

14:44

thing about him you know and I

14:46

think he was just you know like

14:48

I said he was a young guy

14:50

you know he's a kid you know

14:52

trying to take care of kids you

14:54

know what I mean so always give

14:56

him like you know the people want

14:58

me to hate him but I'm like

15:00

no you can not fuck you on

15:03

that's my stepdad that's my stepdad and

15:05

I will say that I'll say that

15:07

I'm cool with saying that I'm like

15:09

that that that man has been has

15:11

been in has been in has been

15:13

in my life you know, since day

15:15

one, I know we had what we

15:17

had or whatever, but that is not

15:19

our life today. And you know, I

15:22

just hate living life like that. You

15:24

know what I mean? You know, so,

15:26

but also was good. So Jerry like

15:28

said a foundation for a lot of

15:30

things that I like really got into

15:32

like music, also martial art films. So

15:34

Jerry used to watch like the old

15:36

Shaolin movies. Right? And I remember I

15:38

thought those were like the coolest movies

15:40

ever and that's how I started doing

15:43

backflips. Is that right? Yep. You were

15:45

a kid that could do backflips in

15:47

school? Yeah. I told myself at like

15:49

five. No. Yeah. Remember that TV show

15:51

Kong Fu? I was going to say

15:53

I would watch the David Caritine Kung

15:55

Fu. Yeah. But then also there was

15:57

also Kung Fu like masterpiece. There was

15:59

Kung. It was Saturdays. Yeah. And that's

16:01

when we would catch Bruce Lee, Fist

16:04

of Fury, things like that. Yes. So

16:06

so my stepdad, like he was in

16:08

the two things. He was in the

16:10

sci-fi and he was into like. martial

16:12

art films. So like, you know, I

16:14

give them credit to like me, like,

16:16

like, I'll watch any martial art film,

16:18

even if it's like corny, because I

16:20

tell you one thing about those films,

16:23

the fighting's always gonna be bad ass.

16:25

Always gonna be bad ass. Always gonna

16:27

be bad. Yeah. Also, it's funny, because

16:29

I remember you, now and I look

16:31

back, you know exactly when a boy

16:33

discovers Kung Fu movies, because as soon

16:35

as I went over my neighbor's house,

16:37

he had nunchucksks and throwing stars and

16:39

throwing stars. Let's do it. Let's do

16:41

it. Let's run it. Let's run it.

16:44

There they are, man. Yep, right there.

16:46

Just whip a nose around in your

16:48

friend's room, just hitting yourself in the

16:50

fucking face and shit. Yep. Look at

16:52

those. You have a pair that I

16:54

have a like display. I got some

16:56

padded ones. Those were the ones. that

16:58

everyone had. I remember everybody having those

17:00

like padded, because they're like the rubber

17:02

like that or whatever like kind of

17:05

kind of style, but yeah, those were

17:07

the ones that everyone. We all wanted

17:09

to Bruce Lee, little slip on. I

17:11

remember when I just had, I just

17:13

had went to a new school, Roosevelt

17:15

Elementary School, right? I just transferred schools.

17:17

And I remember I know Karate. I

17:19

was like, yeah, I know how to

17:21

fight, I'm, you know, well known in

17:24

the, you know, the karate world. And

17:26

they were, and some, some dude was

17:28

like, man, you don't know karate and

17:30

shit, and this dude was a boxer.

17:32

He was out boxed, bro, you really,

17:34

can you, can you do karate? I

17:36

was like, yeah, he goes, all right,

17:38

let's go in the bathroom and see

17:40

what you got. like I was a

17:42

Kung Fu master, right? So I walked

17:45

in with my hands down like this.

17:47

How old are you? Nah. How old

17:49

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17:51

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19:21

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19:23

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19:25

know, he put his fist up and

19:27

he came, I remember he came at

19:29

me, right. And he just started throwing

19:31

these like, you know, right, left, right,

19:33

and I was, and what's crazy, right,

19:35

is I literally was like, I

19:38

blocked everything. And then I hit

19:40

him with the phone. And he

19:42

flew back and everyone was like,

19:44

yo! And I'm sitting here like,

19:46

it was crazy. I remember shouts

19:48

out to Gabriel Alvarado or something

19:50

like that. And then we're like,

19:52

all right, he knows. he was

19:55

like, he knows. And then they

19:57

see me do the backwoods because

19:59

I already knew how to do

20:01

backwoods. So they really, you gotta

20:03

realize, I convinced these kids at

20:05

my school that I knew karate.

20:07

He's a black belt. You don't

20:09

know one damn thing. That's me.

20:11

That's me right there. That is

20:13

hilarious. Yep. That's me right there.

20:15

That is hilarious. Yep. That was

20:17

a kid that was doing backflips.

20:19

I taught myself early. Look at

20:21

that was dude. That was a

20:23

period of time where you only

20:25

got one side peers. Remember that?

20:28

Wait, how old, how old are

20:30

you here with an ear pierced?

20:32

Shit, I got my ears pierced,

20:34

I think before I got into

20:36

school. Oh, yeah, that's why I

20:38

thought I was Barry Bonds. Oh,

20:40

yeah, with the Cross. If you

20:42

swipe next, look at that. Remember

20:44

he would rock that? I sure

20:46

do. Yes. Yep. Bro, I thought

20:48

I was a G. I was

20:50

such a lone wolf as a

20:52

kid like I loved the little

20:54

house on the prairie. I loved

20:56

mama's family. Oh, I love Paul's

20:58

right there. What? I love Vicky

21:01

Lawrence. Mama's family was phenomenal. She,

21:03

Vicky Lawrence. Oh. was goaded for

21:05

this no doubt one of the

21:07

funniest sitcoms ever so you got

21:09

Vicky Lawrence in here you got

21:11

root look Betty White look at

21:13

all the people that came out

21:15

of this fucking show so great

21:17

first of all so this show

21:19

to me was like my earliest

21:21

memories of like comedy. Carol Burnett

21:23

was her show, the Carol Burnett

21:25

show was before Mama's family, which

21:27

I think this might have been

21:29

a spin-off character from the Carol

21:31

Burnett show. But anyway, so like

21:34

this was like, so my mom

21:36

loved this show. So far. And

21:38

so any time it came on,

21:40

you know, because that was like

21:42

the time I would see my

21:44

mom like smile and laugh a

21:46

lot. Lucy. She loved Mama's family.

21:48

She loved the sarcads. Oh my

21:50

God. And the fact that she

21:52

was like, I love the fact

21:54

that she was like mean, but

21:56

it was like funny. Yes. So,

21:58

so the thing is. So because

22:00

I'm aggressive guy, I've found this

22:02

way to make my anger funny,

22:04

right? And you know, a lot

22:07

of it is like the foundation

22:09

from like watching like Mama's family.

22:11

Also, Bernie Mac, one of my

22:13

favorites. Yes. He was really good

22:15

at bringing like anger and making

22:17

it so funny. And that's how

22:19

I was able to like find

22:21

myself as a comedian because of

22:23

like, you know, stuff like that.

22:25

But I just love the fact

22:27

that she was just like so

22:29

so it was so funny. It

22:31

was so funny, man. We will

22:33

watch everything, man. Our TV shows,

22:35

our sitcoms were the Jeffersons. Yeah,

22:37

oh, Samford and son. Sam for

22:40

the son. What's happening? Yeah, which

22:42

is, which is another thing, Sam

22:44

for the son and the Jefferson's,

22:46

another angry characters. Yeah, both. George

22:48

Jefferson, angry, slammed doors. Fred Sam

22:50

won't pop, it'll give you two

22:52

cross your limb. All in the

22:54

family. All in the family was,

22:56

another like, and the Jefferson's were

22:58

spin off of all in the

23:00

family. Because they were neighbors on

23:02

army. Yeah, George Jefferson was his

23:04

black neighbor. Yes. And they gave

23:06

him the spin-off for the Jeffersons.

23:08

Damn. Good times was another huge

23:10

one that was non-stop on. Different

23:13

strokes. Different strokes. I gotta say,

23:15

like, it's interesting. They talk about

23:17

diversity and all this stuff these

23:19

days and inclusion, but now that

23:21

I'm thinking about it growing up.

23:23

It was already there. It was

23:25

there. It was there. Different strokes

23:27

was already there. Sanfer and son.

23:29

You had the Latin guys, the

23:31

Mexican dudes coming in and stuff.

23:33

Yes. You had mama's family with

23:35

that. You had elderly, mixed in.

23:37

The Jefferson's, he was honky nonstop.

23:39

What was, you know what else

23:41

had a diverse? back Carter. Oh

23:43

yeah, welcome back Carter. Let's see

23:46

Captain Kangaroo. Did you know Captain

23:48

Kangaroo? No, I didn't know Captain

23:50

Kangaroo. This guy, Captain Kangaroo. He

23:52

was like the morning. No. You

23:54

know about him cursing? You don't

23:56

know about Captain Kangaroo. Read about

23:58

him. He was, uh, is an

24:00

American Children's Television Series that aired

24:02

weekly mornings on, what does it

24:04

say? CBS for 29 years. 29

24:06

years? He was like, he was

24:08

like the big morning dude. Wow.

24:10

Look at that haircut, bro, Captain

24:12

Kangaroo. Wow. Was so funny. I

24:14

was like, is this guy British?

24:16

Bugs and Popeye, Gilligan's Island. Forget

24:18

about the island. Oh my gosh.

24:21

Mary Tyler Moore, of course. Partridge

24:23

family. Sesame Street. All these rompa

24:25

rooms, do you remember rompa room?

24:27

No. Kirsten, you remember rompa room?

24:29

No, let me see if I

24:31

can get this right, we'll watch

24:33

a video. This lady, I think

24:35

she used to put the mirror

24:37

up and she would go, rompa,

24:39

stomper, boo. I forget what the

24:41

rest of the line was, and

24:43

then she would say, I see.

24:45

Robert Bompers, Stamper Boo, tell me,

24:47

tell me, tell me do. Magic

24:49

Mirror, tell me today, did all

24:51

my friends have fun at play?

24:54

All my friends had fun today.

24:56

I see David's having a special

24:58

day today, and Olivia Joy had

25:00

a special day on Sunday. So

25:02

I got to bring up one

25:04

of my favorite movies. Stir crazy.

25:06

Oh, Gene Wilder is... Come on.

25:08

I mean, Richard Pryor is my

25:10

favorite of all time. Yeah, of

25:12

course. But if you've never seen

25:14

this movie, they get framed as

25:16

bank robbers. And when they go

25:18

to prison, when he rides that

25:20

fucking bull. That's the thing about

25:22

G Wilder is, and Will Farrell's

25:24

very much like this, he embraces

25:27

whatever it is, he's leaned into

25:29

it and having a hell of

25:31

a time. when he rides that

25:33

bull and it's like there's got

25:35

it sped up like it's broken

25:37

he's first gets on backwards he's

25:39

like uh son you know turn

25:41

around yeah he does the laugh

25:43

like I'm so silly and then

25:45

he just loves it he loves

25:47

prison you know what it is

25:49

this is why I love it

25:51

so much is because it's one

25:53

of those movies that's so goofy,

25:55

yet so logical, it like makes

25:57

it like fun. Like, like, because

26:00

sometimes you can overdo a character

26:02

or whatever, but like, the characters

26:04

were so goofy, like, when they're

26:06

walking, when they're initially walking in

26:08

the jail, and Richard Pryor is

26:10

like trying to tell him, yeah,

26:12

gee Wilder's way over doing it,

26:14

yeah. But also, you know, the

26:16

beautiful things like right here in

26:18

the cell when he smacks the

26:20

big dude's head. And Richard Pryor

26:22

goes, he says, was that the

26:24

cigarette scene? I don't know if

26:26

it's the cigarette, but the fly

26:28

lands on him. He smacks me

26:30

and he goes, take me back

26:33

the whole Virginia. That's what Richard

26:35

Pryor says. And the next thing

26:37

you know, they're playing poker with

26:39

him. You know, yeah, yeah. Gee,

26:41

Waller's loving it. The time is

26:43

like, Richard Pryor's terrified. Yeah, so,

26:45

yeah. And he's gay, yeah. That's

26:47

him, you know, remember he could

26:49

sing. He could sing, yeah. Yep.

26:51

So many surprise. Such a good,

26:53

just the way they sneak out

26:55

and shit. Let's get to, uh,

26:57

so yeah, look at all these

26:59

shows. I dream of genie. Oh,

27:01

yeah. I dream of genie. Mr.

27:03

Rogers, neighbor, so many of them.

27:06

What's, get me down to the

27:08

PM shows. Yeah, let's see what

27:10

we was doing at night time.

27:12

Let's see here we go. Andy

27:14

grip. Yep, that Barney Miller. My

27:16

funnest memory of Hogan's heroes, because

27:18

I used to watch it, tell

27:20

you, I was like a weirdo.

27:22

I remember, so I'm allergic to

27:24

like soap, like a lot of

27:26

like, soap, so I have to

27:28

get like soap that's like, has

27:30

like nothing in it. And I

27:32

remember when I was a kid,

27:34

I used this like Irish spring.

27:36

Irish Spring soap. I remember I

27:39

had like this bad breakout, right?

27:41

And it was like super bad,

27:43

you know. And then no, there's

27:45

this like a, it's a whistle,

27:47

but like, I forget how the,

27:49

but it's like a, the fucking,

27:51

but it's like a whistle, but

27:53

like, I forget how the, but

27:55

it's like a whistle and a

27:57

fucking, like a whistle, like a

27:59

whistle and a snare, like, fucking

28:01

all day. And I was like,

28:03

like my fondest memory of like,

28:05

like, like, Hogan's heroes, but you

28:07

know there's a crazy story about

28:09

that home boy, right? Yeah, there's

28:12

a whole documentary about it. Oh,

28:14

there is. He's like a sex

28:16

freak and all that. Yeah, he

28:18

got murdered or bored. I believe

28:20

he played his character. Yeah, he

28:22

got murdered, but I always love

28:24

the dude, because that would put

28:26

his glasses, like he just had

28:28

the one glass on the eye,

28:30

that guy right there. Yeah. Now

28:32

I was, and I would always

28:34

do it with like a quarter,

28:36

because I always thought that guy

28:38

was like cool, cool looking or

28:40

whatever. But yeah, that was another

28:42

like, good show. I want to

28:44

get to this. Tell me about

28:47

the first vacation you took, because

28:49

you said that was with your

28:51

adopted family, right? Oh, bro, where

28:53

we go? And you got to

28:55

realize that when we took a

28:57

vacation, I was 20. That's your

28:59

first vacation. Yeah, that's too old

29:01

for this episode. out here. Yeah,

29:03

out here. Yeah, I thought it

29:05

was so... You're too old for

29:07

Lego. Yeah, we went to like,

29:09

when we go, we went to

29:11

Lego Land, and what's that place?

29:13

See where I said what's that

29:15

much, like you would know. And

29:17

SeaWorld, bro, and it was like,

29:20

it was just weird to me.

29:22

Like, I was just like, I

29:24

remember at one point, I just

29:26

stayed back at like the, it

29:28

was before Airbnb, but we like

29:30

rented something or something or whatever.

29:32

Because I was just like, I

29:34

was just like, I had. I

29:36

don't know it was just it

29:38

was just weird going on a

29:40

you know a vacation at at

29:42

at 20 you know but it

29:44

was like a kid but also

29:46

my sisters are a lot like

29:48

if you go back to that

29:50

picture yeah you're a lot older

29:53

yeah I'm a lot older than

29:55

you know the my sisters, so

29:57

they obviously enjoyed it, but like,

29:59

you know, they were like excited

30:01

to take me on like my

30:03

first vacation. And I just don't

30:05

think I'd appreciate it as much

30:07

because I was just so like.

30:10

I'm like, what am I doing? Like,

30:12

why am I fucking, I don't know,

30:14

it was just weird. So, oh, that's,

30:16

that's me when I was a, that's

30:18

in the 90s, that's me, I think

30:20

I was three years old right there,

30:22

that's my stepdad, right? That's my, that's

30:24

one, one of my brothers to the

30:26

right, the one, the brother in the

30:28

red, um, That's my brother that passed

30:30

away. And then to the left, that's

30:33

my sister right there. And that's my

30:35

mom. And there's me and my biological

30:37

father. We reconnected when I was 29,

30:39

right? So, and he did, he was

30:41

locked up for like 17 years. He's

30:43

doing amazing now. It's kind of, it's

30:45

pretty cool. You know, cool story with

30:47

him. He's a great dude. You know,

30:49

really, really, really turned his life around

30:51

and it's kind of cool that we

30:54

like, I don't know, you know, life's

30:56

so weird. Like, even though I didn't,

30:58

like, most of us don't grow up

31:00

like a traditional way that, you know,

31:02

but, you know, even though I didn't

31:04

grow up, like in a traditional way,

31:06

I still feel like I have family.

31:08

Oh yeah, you know what I mean?

31:10

Like I don't feel like I'm like,

31:12

you know, like that's what I'm saying,

31:14

bro, I love my stepdad. Like, you

31:17

know, like, I don't know, I just

31:19

can't be mad about something that, you

31:21

know, whatever, that is just, you know,

31:23

so far from the past, you know,

31:25

I don't know, I just, I just

31:27

love, love life, but what's cool though,

31:29

is like, yeah, I do feel like

31:31

I have like I have like a

31:33

big family, like a big family, like

31:35

a big family, like I've learned, like,

31:37

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

31:40

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

31:42

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

31:44

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

31:46

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

31:48

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

31:50

like, You know, because like it's like

31:52

my obviously my, you know, my biological

31:54

mom and stepdad, they're different than my

31:56

obviously my adopted folks. Before we get

31:58

out of here, I want to hear

32:00

some cheer camp stories because as I

32:03

was saying to you, bro, I don't

32:05

think we've had a lady come on

32:07

here that's to cheer camp. So let's

32:09

get some original story. It's like really

32:11

knotty. Well, how old were you? I

32:13

was, uh, this was college, cheer camp.

32:15

So what happened in cheer camp? If

32:17

you don't want to share it, we

32:19

could just wrap this up. You don't

32:21

have to. You don't have to. Don't

32:23

mess yourself up. No, I mean, it

32:26

happens. So, like, I didn't lose my

32:28

virginity. I was 21. Yeah. Is that

32:30

right? Yeah. Because I didn't grow up.

32:32

Like I never grew up like thinking

32:34

about like oh I just want to

32:36

hook up with girls or I wanted

32:38

to follow up. I just figured an

32:40

angry young man would have lost his

32:42

virginity at some point. No I was

32:44

trying to fall in love. I like

32:46

love because I like ROM comes too.

32:49

Sure. So. I remember, I was at

32:51

cheer camp, you know, this is in

32:53

college and, you know, we... And give

32:55

me the ratio female to male, 80,

32:57

20, 90, 10. Oh, I mean, yeah,

32:59

there's more, obviously, way more female than

33:01

male, you know. But like, is it

33:03

under 20 dudes total or? Yeah, yeah,

33:05

yeah, yeah, roughly around there, yeah. And

33:07

I remember we were like, it was

33:10

like the last day of camp, we

33:12

were like all hanging out, you know,

33:14

we were drinking or whatever. And I

33:16

remember, like we were staying in like

33:18

a hotel off the beach, right? And,

33:20

uh, One girl just started dancing on

33:22

me, you know, and I was just

33:24

like, oh wow, that did something to

33:26

me. And she was like, let me

33:28

see. And I was like, okay. And

33:30

then she was like, let's go to

33:33

your room. And I was like, okay,

33:35

like, you know, like I said, it's

33:37

so funny telling the story because I

33:39

get so nervous. So then we go

33:41

to another room. This how you lost

33:43

your virginity? No, this is the second

33:45

time I was so like, I don't

33:47

know, I'm still not familiar, you know,

33:49

in the world, still not familiar in

33:51

the sex world. So, you know, we

33:53

start going at it, right? And all

33:56

of a sudden, like, there was this,

33:58

like, random, I felt this weird thing

34:00

that happened while, like, inside. And I

34:02

was like, you know, so I pulled

34:04

out or whatever. then there's blood, right?

34:06

And I was like, oh shit. And

34:08

she was like, oh shit, I'm sorry,

34:10

you know, me, me or whatever. And

34:12

I was like, I'll just go clean

34:14

off, you know, because I'm telling you,

34:16

I don't know anything, you know, but

34:19

I go to clean off, right? And

34:21

then I realize there's still blood. And

34:23

it was me. What? Yes. No. It

34:26

was me. I was the one. What's

34:28

happening? You... So I didn't know that

34:30

you had like... Thank you, Princess Sturb

34:32

and Princess. I didn't know right. I

34:35

didn't know you can't just go in

34:37

there. You have to like get... Someone,

34:39

do you have to get the woman?

34:42

Someone, you said, I thought you were

34:44

about to suggest somebody's gonna come in

34:46

and prepare. Yeah, you shouldn't be going

34:48

in there without lube or some sort

34:51

of natural. Yes, or so lubrication. So

34:53

I didn't know. So I was just

34:55

like. And I was drunk and she

34:57

was drunk and it was just dry.

35:00

And so basically it's like, you know,

35:02

the friction. I was skin on skin.

35:04

Never in my life have I ever

35:07

heard this ever. You're telling me that

35:09

you went in so dry that it

35:11

ripped your dick skin? No. Yes. Yes.

35:13

And then how bad? Well, because so

35:16

I didn't get the snipparoo. as a

35:18

kid? Yeah. And so when I got

35:20

to the bathroom, it just, and I

35:23

was drunk. And when you're drunk, like

35:25

your blood is like thin. Yeah. And

35:27

I could not stop bleeding. What? It's

35:29

just dripping out of your dick. Just

35:32

drip. Dude, I would, I don't know

35:34

if I'd pass out or not. From

35:36

all the thought. I was like freaking

35:38

out so bad. I think I was

35:41

too, I think I was too drunk

35:43

to even like pass out, but it

35:45

just would not stop. But it just

35:48

would not stop. Yeah, which is like,

35:50

which is like some gay dudes and

35:52

they were like, oh, let us see.

35:54

And I'm just kidding. But anyways, so

35:57

I call my homies in and they're

35:59

like, what? I

36:05

was like freaking out. This

36:08

is that cheer camp. This

36:10

is a cheer and I

36:12

was freaking out. So then

36:14

they were like, okay, you

36:16

clean up in here, we'll

36:19

clean up out there. And

36:21

I remember there was the

36:23

girl doing. She just left.

36:25

She just left. She just

36:27

did. Right. And so what

36:30

they did is they they

36:32

took the bloody sheath and

36:34

they just threw them on

36:36

the beach. I'm sitting here

36:38

holding the towns in my

36:41

weener and then also wipe

36:43

it down. That's where they

36:45

go. And then we had

36:47

one more day of cheer

36:49

camp like or whatever like

36:52

that morning and we had

36:54

to be in full uniform

36:56

and we're outside on the

36:58

beach. It's hot sweating and

37:00

it like hurt. to like

37:03

pee. I bet. It was

37:05

like I'm sweating. Sweat, salt.

37:07

Yes, I have to like,

37:09

I have to like flip

37:11

my body in the air,

37:13

throw humans in the air.

37:16

And meanwhile, I'm just like

37:18

in pain. Damn, I've never

37:20

heard that before. I mean,

37:22

yeah, he never heard it

37:24

because also most people know

37:27

what they're doing. I didn't

37:29

know what I was doing,

37:31

you know. Dude, Chappelle Lacy,

37:33

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37:35

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37:38

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37:40

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you and

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we'll talk

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to you

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all next

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week. In

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the dry states of the the there's

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a group that's been denied

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a basic human right. In

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the Navajo the Navajo third of

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our households don't have running

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water. But that's not something

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they chose for themselves. not

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Can the Navajo people reclaim

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their right to water and

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contend with the government's legacy

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of control and neglect? with the government's

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legacy of control and neglect? in

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the next season of of reclaimed, the

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of Navajo Nation. Listen

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now wherever you get your your

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