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the way back her first time. Please

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welcome Andrea Jen welcome to the way

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back Andrew Jim Hi Ryan. Thank you for

2:53

having me. Well, I appreciate you being here

2:56

I was talking to you outside because we

2:58

I think we were saying that we were

3:00

just starting to talk about this show when

3:02

you did your honeydew Yes, we wanted to

3:04

have you back and I put a reminder

3:06

in my phone. Thank you and here we

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are I'm very happy to be here.

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Well, it's a pleasure to have

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you here. Right there, promote

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whatever you'd like, please. I'm

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andriogen. Well before we started I was

3:35

mentioning to you that we usually start these

3:37

episodes by talking about if you've ever been

3:40

in this back seat or anything and you

3:42

had a little bit of a different upbringing you

3:44

you grew up in China Shanghai China yes

3:46

and I said you know have you ever

3:48

been in this seat or know anyone and

3:50

you told us the equivalent of this seat for

3:53

you was what the back of my

3:55

grandpa's bicycle yeah it felt like that

3:57

because you're facing this way you're facing

3:59

the other direction Oh really? You're

4:01

not in the bike seat?

4:03

Like you're on a motorcycle

4:05

facing the same way? No, no,

4:07

no, no. I'm facing the other

4:09

way. So I'm behind the bike.

4:12

bicycle. You're back, the back,

4:14

the back. Yes. Sometimes I'm

4:16

holding on to him and

4:18

we're facing the same way. But

4:20

it felt like this though, where

4:23

I was looking around and

4:25

stuff. Yeah, because we didn't

4:27

have a car. Nobody had

4:29

money. So you're living with grandma

4:31

and grandpa and who else? Grandma,

4:33

grandpa, my aunt, uncle, and my

4:36

cousin all in one apartment, two

4:38

bedroom apartment. So are aunt, uncle

4:40

married? And uncle married? And the

4:42

cousin is their child? Yes. And then

4:44

they've got you and them all in

4:46

a one bedroom? Two bedroom apartment. Yeah,

4:49

two bedroom apartment in Shanghai.

4:51

One bath. Yeah, two bedroom apartment in

4:53

Shanghai. One bath. Yeah, two bedroom. Two

4:55

bed, one bath. Yeah, two bedroom, two

4:57

bedroom, one bath. And you're living

4:59

and growing up like that for

5:02

how long? Ten years. Ten

5:04

years. Yeah. Listen, nobody's gonna

5:06

come on this podcast likely

5:08

and have childhood stories from

5:10

China. So what was it

5:12

like? Tell us. Well, it was. What

5:14

do you remember? Very fun,

5:17

because when you're a kid, you

5:19

don't know that you're poor. Like

5:21

that's, it comes later. Do you

5:23

remember when it hit you? Now

5:25

I know that was, we were poor.

5:28

When did I, I think I, I

5:30

think it's when I moved to

5:32

Vancouver, that's when I realized

5:35

we were poor because we

5:37

didn't have to share baths,

5:39

we didn't have to share

5:41

bath water, or like, you

5:43

know, reuse it. I know it's kind

5:46

of gross, but. To save water,

5:48

we had to do that. And

5:50

is everyone taking a bath at

5:52

the same time? No, no. I

5:54

go, I get to go first because

5:56

I'm the youngest and then my grandpa's

5:59

the last one. because he's the man

6:01

of the house. I just feel

6:03

like whatever order it's going in,

6:05

I'm gonna be last too. I

6:07

just know it. I just know

6:10

it. Yeah. But that's like

6:12

the gentleman, right? The warrior,

6:14

the caretaker. You know, that's

6:16

why he's biking me to school.

6:18

So tell us about going to

6:20

school in China. Yeah, it was

6:22

interesting. It was very

6:25

patriotic. You know, obviously

6:27

the schooling is very.

6:29

Chinese centric. We learned a

6:31

lot about, I mean, it

6:34

was very math forward, country

6:36

forward, and we had to

6:38

wear uniforms. She's looking. It's

6:40

her leg. Okay. I just

6:42

want to make sure she's

6:45

being decent over here. She's

6:47

good. She's good. You wore

6:49

uniforms too? I wore uniforms.

6:51

And then my grandparents. Is

6:54

it coed? It's coed.

6:56

And very regimented and

6:58

we had to do

7:00

eye exercises to strengthen

7:03

learning. Like you know how

7:05

there's recess at school? Well

7:08

for recess we would do

7:10

eye massage. The whole school

7:12

would do it together. It

7:14

would be over the radio

7:16

and they would talk us through

7:18

eye massage and we would. massage

7:21

our eyes so that so you

7:23

just for optimal there's movements

7:25

I remember it still

7:27

the exact three steps

7:29

you do and you did it every

7:32

day it helps your eyes it helps

7:34

your eyes it helps your eyes

7:36

don't get tired it worked sometimes

7:38

I still do it just to

7:40

if my eyes are tired it

7:42

works really well do you have

7:44

why they're beating us I say

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us now I'm American I don't know.

7:49

I no longer identify. No,

7:51

you're going to go with

7:53

the people taking the L right

7:55

now? You're on this team? Yes, I

7:57

mean, I live and die here. That's

7:59

nice. I remember, like we

8:01

would have to start, I

8:04

don't even know if they

8:06

do this anymore, but when

8:08

we started our school day,

8:11

you guys can answer this

8:13

too, like we started

8:15

with the Pledge of

8:17

Allegiance. Did you start

8:19

with that? We did that.

8:21

We did that in China. The

8:24

American Pledge of Allegiance. the flag

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we would watch the flag get

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raised and we would sing the

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shows. For which it stands, is

9:34

that right? Do I need to

9:36

know it? No. You don't need

9:39

to know it. No. For my

9:41

citizenship. That's interesting. I don't know. Here it

9:43

is. And you would have to crawl, you

9:45

were supposed to put your hand on

9:47

your right hand on your right hand

9:49

on your heart. Oh. So this hand

9:51

on your heart. Right. My heart. Okay.

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flag of the United States of America

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and to the Republic for which. stands,

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one nation undergone indivisible,

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with liberty and justice for all.

10:05

I see. Yeah, for the National Anthem

10:07

in China, we would salute the flag.

10:09

Well, yeah, yeah, that's what we did.

10:11

Oh, this is the eye massage. Yeah,

10:13

yeah, that's who we did. We would

10:15

do it together over the speaker on

10:17

the PA. And what

10:20

are they saying to you right

10:22

here? They're just

10:24

instructing us. Like what

10:27

to do. Now gently massage

10:29

around. Well no, they would

10:31

say like one, two, three,

10:33

four, or like two, two,

10:35

three, four. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

10:38

I see how you're doing

10:40

your fingers. Yeah, it's like,

10:42

yeah. Like I know exactly

10:44

what they're doing. Yeah. Ready

10:46

to learn. Tell me about

10:49

in the house sharing, you had to

10:51

share a bed. This is interesting

10:53

because most people we talk to

10:55

share a bedroom with a sibling

10:57

or something like that. Well, yeah, so

10:59

we had two bedrooms, so my aunt,

11:01

uncle, and cousin were in the one

11:03

bedroom, and then me, my grandpa, and

11:06

my grandma were in the other bedroom,

11:08

and we had a couch for my

11:10

grandpa, and a bed for me and

11:12

my grandma. But I'm, I don't know when I

11:14

was a kid. I wed the bed a

11:17

lot. I also thrashed a lot. So

11:19

my grandma got really annoyed

11:21

by that. She didn't like

11:23

sleeping next to pee all

11:26

the time. And like movement,

11:28

just so much movement. So

11:30

she made my grandpa switch

11:32

with her. She took the couch

11:34

just because I'm so terrible. She

11:37

would rather have the couch. And

11:39

God bless them because. I could

11:41

have taken, I should have taken

11:43

the couch. I was gonna say, why are you

11:45

out on the couch? But they were like, you

11:48

can't be peeing on the couch. Well,

11:50

they were just being like good grandparents,

11:52

you know, but I didn't know about

11:54

selflessness yet. I was just a kid.

11:56

And so I was on the bed

11:58

with my grandpa. I. kept hitting him

12:01

I would I would smack him

12:03

in your sleep in my sleep

12:05

and he would wake up I

12:07

did that to my grandma too

12:09

and that's why she also got

12:11

really annoyed I would smack her

12:14

beaten beat these people my

12:16

grandparents pissing on them

12:19

beating them I'm the

12:21

worst granddaughter Kirsta that's

12:23

pissleby beat me right there

12:25

for God's sake I

12:28

was hitting them peeing. Yeah, that's why

12:30

you gotta love your kids. You

12:32

gotta love grandkids too. Honestly, they

12:34

put up with me. I can't believe that

12:36

if my kid was doing that, I would make

12:38

him sleep out in the yard. It's nice

12:41

to hear you say that, because their

12:43

grandparents, they don't have to do that.

12:45

I know. They got through that already.

12:47

They did that first wave of being

12:49

pissed on and beating their sleep and

12:51

stuff. Exactly. So I'm so grateful.

12:53

They put up with me. And so

12:55

I was doing that and my grandpa

12:58

was next to me finally and I

13:00

kept hitting him. There's nowhere else to

13:02

go from there. Nobody else can switch

13:04

with him. So he just stuck with

13:07

me. And then I pissed the bed till I

13:09

was 10. Like I... Do you know why? No, I think

13:11

it was psychological though, because I

13:14

think I was just so comfortable.

13:16

Because it was a concern before

13:18

I left for Vancouver. My grandparents

13:20

were like... I don't know

13:22

if she could sleep on

13:25

the bed with anyone because

13:27

she's still pissing the bed.

13:29

We did acupuncture to try

13:31

and fix it. We did shock

13:33

therapy. Oh my God. What is

13:36

shock therapy for helping you to

13:38

not? What are they doing to

13:40

you? Oh wait, that was not. Oh

13:42

wait. No, no, no. I got a

13:44

confused. I had frequent nosebleeds. Okay. And

13:46

they would cotorize. They were, that was

13:48

the shock because it hurt so much.

13:50

I used to think it was shock

13:52

therapy, but it was cotorizing. They were

13:54

trying to cotorize my nose. But it

13:57

didn't work. I still kept getting noseblees.

13:59

He still kept. Pissing. Listen, I'm

14:01

gonna be straight with you right

14:03

now. I love that you say

14:05

pissing. It's such I say piss

14:08

and I've been told like it's

14:10

so crass. I'm like peeing that

14:12

to you. Peeing. Who's saying that

14:14

to you? Who's saying that's crap?

14:16

I've been a lot of people have

14:18

said that. Why do you say piss?

14:21

She's wrong. They're all wrong. Like

14:23

am I supposed to walk around

14:25

the house and be like I have

14:28

to take a pee. That's a child

14:30

talk. That's a child's talk and grow

14:32

up. Grow up is what I'm, I

14:34

want to tell all those people that have

14:36

told you it's crap. Okay, wait,

14:38

because I have a solution for

14:40

your P problem here because my

14:43

brothers both did this and we've

14:45

talked about this on this podcast.

14:47

But before we get there, when

14:49

did you finally stop and what

14:52

stopped you? It was psychological

14:54

because when I stopped was

14:56

the second I moved to Vancouver.

14:58

I don't think it was that. I

15:00

think it was being afraid of embarrassment

15:02

because I had to share a bed

15:04

with my step-sister that I've never met

15:06

before. So when we started sharing a

15:08

bed, I just wasn't comfortable. So I

15:10

think the not being comfortable

15:12

made me hold it in. Probably ruined

15:15

your sleep and made you. And then you

15:17

never did it again. Never again. Can I

15:19

ask you an honest question? When you moved

15:21

into your own place, you just start

15:23

peeing again. No. No. You know. You know what.

15:25

You know what? You know what? You know what? I

15:27

didn't even know I was poor, you know,

15:29

or we were poor, yeah. But I think

15:32

I just, I think I just

15:34

entered the real world. I think

15:36

in China I was in this

15:38

bubble world of safety and happiness

15:40

and protection of my grandparents. That's

15:43

nice. Yeah, it felt, I felt

15:45

very coddled by my grandparents. I

15:47

didn't even know I was poor,

15:49

you know, or we were poor. Yeah.

15:51

Both my brothers peed, my, my twin brother,

15:53

he peed, I wanna say it was

15:56

till like seventh grade. That's

15:58

a long that's My

16:00

younger brother was more like

16:02

your, yeah, more like you,

16:04

like an eight, nine, somewhere

16:06

in there. But they kept

16:08

peeing and they had to get

16:10

this thing. This is, I mean,

16:13

shit, let's just say if he's

16:15

10, this would be 1983. And

16:17

you had to have, you put

16:19

a white t-shirt on in a

16:21

pair of tidy whiteies. And then

16:24

they would have a, it was

16:26

a buzzer that you sewed. This

16:28

is it right here. There's a

16:30

buzzer and you would sew it

16:32

up here so you could hear

16:34

it up by your ear and

16:37

then there was a little strip

16:39

thing you would sew into the

16:41

tiny whiteies right where the pea

16:43

would touch. That's so fancy. And

16:46

it would, they would, they would,

16:48

they're both doing it. Listen to

16:50

me. I never fucking slept. I

16:53

don't go look at shit. Me

16:55

too. I don't go to your, I

16:57

don't know about your museum. I'm just

16:59

sleeping. I never, so even in the

17:02

womb, I got another fucking person in

17:04

there with me. I've never had a

17:06

fucking moment of silence. Wow. He's, I

17:09

share a room with him and then

17:11

our little brothers in the room next

17:13

to us, but it's all right here.

17:15

And it's just blue, blue, blue, blue,

17:18

blue, blue, all night long. But it

17:20

worked, but it worked, eventually. the pad

17:22

and then it'll buzz but you've already

17:25

peed there here you go this is

17:27

it right here oh my gosh but

17:29

you've already peed okay but eventually it

17:31

will train you to get up before that P

17:33

hits that thing and I have to say it

17:35

fucking work for both of them so they

17:37

would just wake up That's the trick is

17:39

to wake up if you're going to pee your

17:41

back before you pee this thing gets you to

17:44

train to wake up Your body's feeling this thing

17:46

coming get up and go there. Don't just lay

17:48

there and pee so it was a buzzer that

17:50

the way they did it they so did here

17:52

and it right in your ear in the middle

17:55

of the night So eat one of

17:57

drop touches that thing that thing's buzzing

17:59

so eventually It might work on

18:01

me. I'm not sure if

18:03

it has. Yeah, yeah, now I'm

18:05

good. Well now, now, now,

18:08

now... I'm just gonna do

18:10

it for fun. Now

18:12

sometimes I pee my pants.

18:14

What do you mean?

18:16

Sometimes I pee my pants.

18:19

Like full on or you

18:21

catch it? What do you

18:23

mean? Sometimes if I...

18:25

I'll never escape the piss.

18:27

Yeah, I'll never escape. Well,

18:29

yeah, just if I hold

18:31

it in too long and I

18:34

can't find a bathroom, it

18:36

happens. Granted, it's not

18:38

frequent. Good thing. I mean,

18:41

how many times a year are

18:43

we talking? Three? One? One? One?

18:46

Oh, yearly. You got an annual

18:48

piss pan? One. Yeah, I'm proud

18:50

to say I've got it down

18:52

to one. It used to be

18:54

more. In high school, it was

18:56

a lot. Anywhere. Anywhere. How

18:59

do you recover from that? I

19:01

pretend like it didn't happen. But

19:03

how if there's like pee on the

19:05

seat? So I wear pants that

19:07

are very absorbent. What do you

19:09

got? It's just heavy. Or it's

19:12

like... You got bounty jeans or

19:14

something? Sweat pants? Sweat pants?

19:16

Kind of absorbent. But you

19:18

know when you're just laughing so

19:20

hard with your friends? Because nothing

19:22

is funnier than... your friends in

19:24

high school. Like laughing with your

19:26

friends in high school and that

19:29

pushed me over the edge and

19:31

I would pee my pants. Now see

19:33

if you were in my circle and

19:35

I knew that about you, I would

19:37

100% try to make, let's make Andrea

19:39

laugh so hard she pees or pans.

19:41

That would be my goal. That's so

19:43

fun. That's so fun. Yeah. Like you

19:45

know when you're on stage and there's

19:47

that one lady or man that's laughing

19:50

so hard and so hard and you're

19:52

like you want to push them? I'm so

19:54

glad you get it. And I would, um... Or you

19:56

know like those moments when you're not supposed

19:58

to let, like we would... be in

20:00

church or something like that. And

20:03

you just, you can see out

20:05

of your, they're just holding it

20:07

into and you're just shaking or

20:10

you're looking like, oh God, don't

20:12

let me look up, you're gonna

20:14

lose. I just start pissing

20:16

for sure. Oh, start pissing.

20:19

That's great. Well, and you know

20:21

what I would do? I would

20:23

pretend it didn't, it didn't happen.

20:25

and I would think I was getting

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20:36

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20:51

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20:55

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20:57

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22:00

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22:02

get them too, they get them water and stuff,

22:04

but we walk out, he looks like that. And

22:06

he's like, he's like, do I look like, um,

22:08

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22:10

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22:13

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and we have chickens. Yeah, we

24:58

had chicks. Chicks. Yeah, we had

25:01

chicks. So pets or you had,

25:03

you don't have them for laying

25:05

eggs and? Therefore, well,

25:07

we had chicks with the

25:09

intention of having them lay

25:12

eggs eventually, but the yard,

25:14

the deck wasn't big enough. But

25:16

we had them for a while

25:18

and we ate them after. It

25:21

was, it was, so horrible. You

25:23

remember it? Well, do

25:25

you remember? They told me after

25:27

I ate it. That's what I

25:29

want to say. Tell me when you

25:32

found out. I found out after

25:34

I've taken the shit already.

25:36

You know what I mean? You know?

25:38

Yeah. So, so it was like way

25:40

late. It was way late. Like it

25:43

wasn't after the meal. Otherwise

25:45

I would have felt sick.

25:47

Yeah. I already shit. I

25:49

already took the shit. Oh my God.

25:51

So I was like. Okay, I guess that's

25:53

fine. I didn't have anything to be sick

25:56

with, but it did feel bad. I had

25:58

pictures with the little chicks and... They

26:00

were so cute, they were my

26:02

friends. Oh, and you know what?

26:04

I fucked around with ants a

26:07

lot. They were, I would just

26:09

like, play God with the ants.

26:11

I would decide their fate,

26:13

you know? You live, you die.

26:15

Some would get water, some

26:17

would, I was a terrible

26:20

kid. Some would, I feel bad

26:22

saying this, I terrorize these

26:24

ants, but some would get,

26:26

you know, the water treatment.

26:28

And some, I had a

26:30

lighter, I mean, oh, terrible. I

26:32

was a bad kid. Their ants, it's

26:34

fine. Okay, I hope so. And then-

26:37

Listen, we are at the top

26:39

of the food chain every now and

26:41

then. You got a fucking electric

26:43

muscle. Those some ants got to know

26:45

about it. It was so fun.

26:47

I still remember. Did you magnifying

26:50

glass them? Oh, I did. I

26:52

did. And some, I would, I

26:54

would like, my favorites would get

26:56

to. Go in a little container

26:58

with me and I would take

27:00

them to bed with me and

27:02

How many are we talking

27:05

in the container? Two or

27:07

three. And you have little holes

27:09

in the top? No, no

27:11

holes. Just suffocating and

27:14

shit. I didn't know

27:16

that. I didn't know that. They

27:18

need it there. They got the

27:20

worst ones. They got the

27:22

worst ones. I thought they were

27:24

fun! I know, I know. It was terrible

27:27

and I would wake up and the

27:29

container would be open. Why? You

27:31

didn't tighten it or? I didn't

27:33

tighten it enough. The container would

27:35

be open. Yeah, I was like, yeah,

27:37

it's probably in my piss. It's drowning

27:39

in my piss. The ants are drowning

27:41

in my piss. But it would, the

27:44

container would be open. I would freak

27:46

out because I'm like, oh my God,

27:48

ew, the answer in the bed. And

27:50

then, and that was my, a lot of

27:52

my, a lot of my childhood. No wonder

27:54

your grandma was like I'm going to the

27:56

fucking couch. Yeah, it's a lot going on.

27:58

I bring ants to bed. sounds like. Oh

28:00

my God. We had to put plastic

28:03

on the bed. We didn't have those

28:05

gadgets, you know, we had to put

28:07

like a murderer, you know, it just

28:09

put the plastic. Trash bag down? Yeah,

28:11

because so that it was easier to

28:14

clean. Yeah, my, any time my

28:16

brothers would, like if we spent

28:18

the night at relatives, they all knew.

28:20

So they would be like, we got, they

28:22

would get like a rubber sheet. You know

28:24

what I mean? Oh yeah. The mattress

28:26

cover and they put that on. And

28:28

then those two had to sleep in

28:30

the same bed because they were like

28:32

if we're not, we're not cleaning two

28:34

piss spots. You just go and piss

28:36

in that bed. You gotta segregate

28:38

the piss. I used to, I haven't

28:40

drank in forever, but when I would

28:43

drink, there would be like once

28:45

a year, I would drink enough where

28:47

I had the dream that I'm peeing.

28:49

Oh, this is high school a lot.

28:51

And then I would wake up just

28:54

covered in piss. I'm like, God damn

28:56

it. That's hilarious. That's what it was.

28:58

I love that. And I can feel

29:00

it, the relief in the dream. And

29:02

I'm always, in the dream, I'm always

29:05

doing it appropriately too. I'm always at

29:07

a urinal or something. And then I'm

29:09

just like, so I should be here.

29:11

This is what I'm supposed to be

29:13

doing. It's not like if I was

29:16

in my dream. You have the

29:18

correct you have the right intentions.

29:20

Yeah, yeah, but you're in bed.

29:23

I've done that. I remember being

29:25

at a girlfriend's house one time

29:28

in high school and she was

29:30

house sitting and we got really

29:32

wasted. And when I woke

29:34

up in the morning, I peed

29:37

all over that bed and it's

29:39

their bed. Not hers, not her

29:41

parents. It's the house that

29:43

she's house sitting and I've just

29:46

peed. That's what I think. Yeah,

29:48

you're like, you made me pee on the

29:50

bed. You said last night. I mean, I

29:52

wanted to say, no, this was you. You

29:54

did this. You did this. I saw it come

29:56

out of you. Okay, so at 10, you

29:58

go to Vancouver. Talk to. about what life

30:00

is like changing there like you said

30:02

I thought I heard you say you're

30:05

moving in with stepdad step sister you

30:07

never met but you shared a bed

30:09

with her not a room so you're

30:11

meeting this person for the first time

30:13

you got to sleep next to him

30:15

in a bed yeah yeah it was

30:17

strange it was we were catapulted into

30:19

this for sure because I was really

30:22

sad about leaving my life in China.

30:24

Why were you in China? Why did

30:26

you leave? To reunite with my mom

30:28

and for Canadian citizenship. You know,

30:30

my mom and my my family

30:32

always wanted me to move to

30:35

North America. But I was sad I

30:37

had a whole life in China. There

30:39

was a, I had a crush on

30:41

somebody there. And who's your first crush?

30:43

This like little bald kid. I

30:45

remember he had, he had, his parents

30:47

shaved shaved his head. I don't know

30:50

why. He always had a buzz cut.

30:52

We would chase each other around. That's

30:54

what having a crush was. When you're

30:57

a kid, when you're a tiny little

30:59

kid, you just chase each other around.

31:02

That's what you know. It's my daughter's

31:04

age. They have crushes on boys now.

31:06

And I'm like, oh my God. What

31:08

a time. You don't even know what

31:11

to do with it. You just chase

31:13

them around. And so that was fun.

31:15

And then my grandparents. I had

31:17

them, there's such a protectant

31:19

over me. that it felt so

31:22

strange to be without them. I

31:24

didn't know that the terror would

31:26

affect me so much, you know. I

31:28

took them for granted, I

31:30

think. Well, you're 10. You

31:32

didn't. You did exactly

31:34

what you're supposed to do.

31:37

It's a 10-year-old child. And

31:39

I was just excited to

31:41

go see my mom, you know? And

31:43

so, because I didn't. Can I ask,

31:46

I'm sorry, where is dad in

31:48

the picture at all? Well, my dad.

31:50

Yes, is he in Vancouver, is

31:52

he in China, where is he?

31:54

He initially went with my

31:56

mom to Vancouver, but he

31:58

couldn't cut it. as well as

32:01

her there. And so he moved

32:03

back to China and they got

32:05

divorced. And then, so he was

32:07

in Shanghai with me, kind of,

32:09

but not in that house. I

32:11

was still living with my

32:14

grandparents. But anyway, so

32:16

my mom's like alone, basically,

32:18

most of her life. And

32:20

she, she's just in Vancouver

32:22

there, she got remarried to

32:24

my stepdad. And then, yeah,

32:26

I just. get sprung into this

32:29

family. And are you close to your

32:31

step sister now because of this or?

32:33

Well they got divorced. And I

32:35

don't, I no longer talk to

32:38

her. Yeah, I haven't talked to

32:40

her since they got divorced and

32:42

moved out. I did not keep in touch.

32:44

How were you when that happened? I

32:46

think it was maybe 14, 15, 15.

32:48

Tell me about drinking and

32:50

smoking at the park. Yeah, so in

32:53

high school I started to hang out

32:55

with kind of... Like Asian gangsters

32:57

there was just funny to

32:59

hear you say that because So

33:01

real there's no sports for you.

33:04

There's no other things. Oh you did

33:06

I was all around I had good grades

33:08

too So I kept up everything somehow

33:10

and did all of that. So

33:12

wow I had a full play

33:15

I was shoplifting. I was playing

33:17

short sports. I played volleyball basketball

33:19

basketball softball. Damn. Yeah and

33:21

volleyball I played all season

33:23

all season all season all

33:25

year all year off season on

33:28

on and I also was in

33:30

band. Okay. Because my stepdad was

33:32

a band teacher and I played

33:35

saxophone and I played piano. All

33:37

right. And yeah. Can you still

33:39

play the sax? Yes. You can?

33:42

Yeah. But I don't like how

33:44

clunky the instrument is. I didn't

33:46

want to take on saxophone but

33:48

my stepdad loved the sound of

33:51

the saxophone so he made us

33:53

learn it. I prefer like a

33:56

flu or a clarinet because they're

33:58

much easier to carry. I just

34:00

didn't want to carry a gigantic

34:03

saxophone. You know what my daughter just

34:05

picked? She's, this is music for them,

34:07

first year and fourth grade, fucking

34:09

trombone. Her brother, they share the same

34:11

mom, he picked the fucking cello when he

34:13

was up. And we were like, dude, he

34:15

got so sick of it. It had a

34:17

wheel on it to pull that they had

34:19

a wheel on. So I made a deal

34:22

with her. Her mom and I both try

34:24

to talk around. She's only doing

34:26

it because, well, for two

34:28

reasons, she says. One, her

34:30

best friend is doing it.

34:32

So she likes to grow

34:34

up with her best friend.

34:36

Yeah. The other one is,

34:38

she said, it looks fun.

34:40

I was like, it does

34:42

look fun. Yeah, you got

34:44

to slide it. That's interesting.

34:46

Yeah. of being in band.

34:48

Because that's all it is.

34:50

You're transporting the, most of

34:53

your life is transporting the

34:55

instrument. You don't want to be

34:57

the big bass drum guy and shit, you

34:59

know. Unless you have a team to

35:01

help you. I'm proud of her because

35:03

I told her I'm not carrying it. Wow,

35:05

really. Yeah, I'm not. And she

35:08

hasn't bitched. She'll walk, I'm like, dad,

35:10

it's getting heavy in this hand, and

35:12

I just look back and I go

35:14

switch hands. Strong girl. And she fucking

35:16

switches hands, and she doesn't complain about

35:19

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35:21

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would have picked flute for sure. But

36:02

yeah, so I had banned. I was

36:05

also banned. So you're doing all that

36:07

and how do you get it? Was it

36:09

a boy? My grades were good. Into

36:11

the gang members? It was more

36:13

so they were just doing fun

36:15

shit that were different from the

36:17

things that I was doing. Because

36:19

I was athletic, I was studious,

36:22

I had banned. But I didn't

36:24

know about the, I watched movies,

36:26

I watched TV, the drinking, the

36:28

partying. I saw none of that.

36:30

And so I was curious. And

36:32

the only people that were doing

36:35

it that I knew were the

36:37

Asian gangsters that would go to

36:39

my school. Well, they were the

36:41

junior, they were the junior recruits

36:43

of the Asian gangsters. Because

36:46

they're still in high school,

36:48

you know. And so they

36:50

had drugs, they had alcohol.

36:53

So I would hang out with them

36:55

and I would smoke weed with

36:57

them. I would drink in the park

36:59

with them. I was smoking, I was

37:01

hotboxing cars. That was the first

37:03

time I ever smoked weed was,

37:05

I hotbox a car with three,

37:08

two guys I didn't know, one of

37:10

them was, so three guys, one guy I

37:12

knew was my friend, and two guys

37:14

I didn't know, they were just

37:16

his friend. So dangerous. So dangerous.

37:18

That was the most dangerous

37:20

thing I could have done as a

37:22

teenage girl. But I was running wild

37:25

because I was running wild because. My

37:27

mom, you know, she had her own

37:29

thing going on, she couldn't be bothered

37:32

with what I was doing. I

37:34

was just in Canada, you know,

37:36

I was experiencing a new country.

37:38

And I was just parenting

37:40

myself and that was what I thought

37:42

was the best thing. It was to

37:44

hot box a car with three

37:47

questionable. people yeah and I was

37:49

always to talk about all the time I had

37:51

a friend that was on the same page with

37:53

me about stuff like if we were out somewhere

37:55

we ended up getting in a girls like girls

37:57

would be like you guys want to go over

37:59

here whatever and we'd let them drive

38:01

us. We'd sit in the back

38:03

and he'd always lean over to

38:05

me and go, we're in a

38:07

stranger's car and it would hit

38:09

me. We're a fucking stranger's car.

38:11

I don't know these people. I've

38:14

just met them. I don't know

38:16

anything about it. They could have a

38:18

gun in here, drugs in here. They

38:20

could have just robbed the bank.

38:22

You don't know anything about it.

38:24

You know what saved me though?

38:26

as I can remember till

38:29

like maybe 21. Stop. Yeah.

38:31

Yeah. Yeah. Andrea Jin. That's

38:33

like yesterday for you. I

38:36

know, but I was not cute.

38:38

Or maybe, I don't know, something

38:40

was off. Maybe they could smell

38:43

the piss on me or something.

38:45

But like. Stop bringing

38:47

that girl around it

38:49

smells like me. Whatever it

38:52

was. For some reason, just

38:54

nobody. No guy. No

38:56

guy I liked was interested

38:59

in me. Were you, how did

39:01

you dress back then? Were you

39:03

dressing athletic? Were you, what was

39:05

popular fads for you guys? Like

39:08

I was blind. Like it was,

39:10

like it was, like it was

39:12

terrible. I would, well, because I

39:14

would play sports, so I

39:16

would just dress whatever is

39:19

comfortable. But not cool, like the

39:21

athlete type people I wasn't wearing,

39:23

I was just wearing like,

39:26

just. I don't know, sweat pants

39:28

with a big t-shirt or something.

39:30

Yeah, so it was just whatever

39:32

was around. I put no thought. I was

39:35

a home, I was like a home

39:37

girl, you know? And so nobody saw

39:39

me in that way and that's how

39:41

I was able to do most of

39:43

that stuff and without getting hurt, you

39:45

know, that was fun. That was fun.

39:48

I feel like, yeah, I drank in

39:50

the park. I threw up at the

39:52

McDonald's that day. It was the

39:54

first day of drinking. Very, drinking

39:56

too. That's great. My mind is

39:58

at night for... Sure, yeah. It's,

40:01

well, it was like after school,

40:03

so it was 3.30 at the

40:05

park. They had a giant

40:07

bottle of gray goose vodka.

40:10

That was my first drink. It

40:12

was a, they were like, take

40:14

a swig of this bottle. I

40:17

just took a swig and then

40:19

I just kept going and next

40:21

thing, you know, I'm throwing

40:23

up a McDonald's. Yeah. I

40:25

was like 15, you know.

40:27

And then. smoked weed for

40:30

hotbox a car that night.

40:32

I remember- All the same day? No,

40:34

no, no, no, not the same day. The

40:36

weed in the car was another

40:38

day. I remember it's so clearly

40:40

the password of the guy that

40:42

was driving because he said it

40:45

was QP-Q-P because it's quarter

40:47

pounder or quarter pounder.

40:49

That was the password to,

40:51

what, get the weed? To his, uh,

40:53

his Blackberry phone. Yeah,

40:55

Blackberry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and

40:58

I said, like, I remember that

41:00

so clearly for some reason, but

41:03

that was a fun night as

41:05

well. We went to McDonald's,

41:07

I got a quarter

41:09

pounder, because he said that.

41:11

Yeah, he put it in

41:13

your head. You still like

41:16

McDonald's. But it's definitely a.

41:18

treat. I try not to overdo it.

41:21

Andrea Jin. Thank you for doing

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this. This has been a fun

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episode. This was so fun. Yeah.

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Will you promote whatever you'd like

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