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establishment James. Program

14:00

and layout for the guy that's

14:02

writing the code You probably

14:04

need to be in the office and so

14:06

anyway I think office buildings if they're going down

14:08

in value and some markets are

14:10

gonna be a good buy I'm probably gonna buy some of

14:13

them. Oh And

14:15

I would assume those those markets the ones you

14:17

talked about earlier the places people are moving to

14:19

Texas Florida, Tennessee, I'm gonna buy an office building

14:21

in an area where the the

14:24

government the local government was draconian

14:27

during the lockdowns and Overreached

14:29

way over each I'm gonna buy an office building

14:32

in an area where there's freedom and And

14:36

and where people freaked out about work from home

14:38

And so they think office buildings are tanking and they're gonna

14:41

give it away. Well, I'll take it if you're gonna give

14:43

it away You

14:46

know you brought up and I and I love Zooming

14:48

out as you point out like the

14:51

whatever we're gonna call this once the history books,

14:53

right? What happened? I don't know maybe

14:55

from 2015 through 25 or 30 The

14:58

great migration I immediately thought of

15:01

you know The migration from

15:03

the south to the north when you had

15:05

the Industrial Revolution and urbanization and Jim Crow

15:07

You had all kind of things pushing people

15:09

to the urban centers like Chicago and New

15:11

York and so forth And

15:15

you've got something similar happening now. I

15:17

mean, it's quasi political very economic Also

15:20

quality of life and freedom to your point It'll

15:22

be a moment when we zoom out in the

15:25

history books right about this They're

15:27

gonna say look how many I don't know I don't

15:29

know how it compares historically when you said that all

15:31

of a sudden I wanted to know How does this

15:33

compare to the great migrations of the past but

15:35

we're probably in the middle of one of these great migrations Yeah,

15:39

we do well or we may be on the tail end

15:41

of it because I don't know how many more will leave

15:43

New York or California but the if you

15:45

read the maps that the Census Bureau is putting out

15:47

and you look at the data The

15:49

numbers are horrendous of the people that have

15:51

left Government areas

15:53

that are overreaching And

15:57

were draconian during the lockdowns. They're

15:59

leaving hot taxes because they know they'll do

16:01

it again. They know at the first blink

16:03

that they'll do all those things again. And

16:05

so they're out of there. I got a

16:08

buddy of mine that left LA and he's

16:10

been there his whole life. But

16:13

in the first year in Nashville, he paid

16:15

cash for a house with the taxes he

16:17

saved by leaving California. So we're seeing a

16:19

lot of that everywhere. And I think you're

16:21

right. I think it's going to show up

16:23

in the history books because

16:25

all the thinkers and the doers, the

16:28

people that earn big money are leaving

16:31

and they're relocating. And so what that's

16:33

going to do to those markets is

16:35

pretty incredible. So

16:38

I want to then go back to the advice you would

16:40

give us as individuals. I want to ask you about two

16:43

concepts. You rolled them one into the same, but I'm actually

16:45

going to separate them for one moment. So I

16:47

think in order to access home ownership,

16:49

everyone, including you, acknowledges debt is an

16:52

essential part of the picture

16:54

of buying a home. Very few people can

16:56

pay cash for their home. But

16:58

still your advice is sought. I mean, you've

17:01

had the envelope theory, the snowball theory, pay

17:03

off small debts, save cash, budget with envelopes

17:05

and so forth. What in your

17:07

estimation, Dave, from a family, for

17:09

an individual, is a good use

17:11

of the tool of debt? I mean, most of

17:13

it's a tool and it can help wealth creation.

17:15

It can also be, I guess, a drug, you

17:18

know, that we continue to inject

17:20

into our bloodstream that we get addicted to.

17:22

But what's a good use of debt? Personally,

17:25

personal finances? I

17:27

don't think there is one. I

17:30

disagree. So I

17:32

have found that being 100% debt free and staying

17:35

that way leads to

17:37

wealth creation faster than anything else

17:39

you can do. Meanwhile, lowering

17:42

risk, increasing the quality of your

17:44

relationships. Most people's careers

17:46

blossom because they're not stuck in a toxic

17:48

work environment because they have to pay payments

17:50

to some idiot that they bought a car

17:53

from. And so, you

17:55

know, the things that it does, the ways it frees

17:57

up your life, the quality of your life, it's a

17:59

good use of debt. increases. Even

18:01

we see hypertension and we see medical results

18:03

of getting out of debt and staying out

18:05

of debt. So there's a whole lot more

18:07

than a simple math. And you know

18:12

when you stress test your idea, when you

18:14

put it up against a really tough time,

18:16

again, we referenced the pandemic or something, it

18:18

feels like it was 20 minutes ago but

18:20

it's five years ago, but the, four

18:23

years ago, but if you

18:25

stress test stupid, you know, you see

18:28

what happens. And so this idea that I can borrow

18:30

and not worry about it and it's

18:32

not a big deal, everybody does it, it's a

18:34

tool and all that. Well, when you lose your

18:36

job or when you can't go to work and

18:38

they furlough you, when things

18:41

happen, when you have a car wreck, when cancer

18:43

is in the family, all of

18:45

these things come up when you stress test it, you

18:47

see what Warren Buffett said is true that when the

18:49

tide goes out, you can tell he was skinny dipping.

18:52

And so, you know,

18:54

so I, we don't recommend

18:56

debt on a house. We

18:59

tolerate it with our callers and say, okay,

19:01

don't take out more than a 15 year

19:03

fixed rate only or the payments no more

19:05

than a fourth of your take on pay

19:08

and get that sucker paid off as fast

19:10

as you can because all the data that

19:12

we have says two things creates the first

19:14

million to five million of net worth. The

19:16

first time you become a millionaire, it's a

19:18

paid off house and a well funded 401k

19:21

and Roth IRA. So funding your

19:23

retirement and good mutual funds and getting your

19:25

house paid off is where we find most

19:27

millionaires are coming from in America. Paying

19:32

off your home and funding your 401k,

19:34

those are the two best

19:36

paths to your first million. Yeah,

19:39

we did a study, the largest study of millionaires ever done. We

19:41

studied 10,167 of

19:44

them and that's the typical model we find.

19:46

They're a million and a half net worth. They got a

19:48

$700,000 paid for house. They got $800,000 bucks in their 401k

19:50

and they're 46 years old and

19:55

they're a millionaire. And so that's

19:57

what we found over and over and over again.

20:02

Now, the second concept I wanted to ask you

20:04

about, Dave, is one that you rolled one

20:07

and the same, somewhat. I want to

20:09

ask you about risk. You said debt is risk, but

20:11

there's other types of risk beyond debt. So

20:14

I once read a book. Dave, when I first

20:16

started out in my career, I pursued

20:19

a very entrepreneurial path. I owned small-town

20:21

newspapers in Texas. I

20:23

had a Latino media business. And

20:26

I was interested in Warren Buffett, by the way. He's one

20:28

of the guys that led me down into that industry. And

20:32

there was a guy named Al Newhart, who started USA

20:34

Today. He was the CEO of Gannett

20:36

Newspapers back in the day. And

20:38

he said he used to encourage his children to take

20:41

one great risk before the age of

20:43

30. And his rationale was, before

20:45

the age of 30, you can rebound easier than after the

20:48

age of 30. You acquire responsibilities,

20:50

wives, children, whatever it may be. You

20:52

acquire more responsibilities the older that you get.

20:57

I'm curious what you would say to people

20:59

in their 20s, in their 30s, about how

21:01

they should manage risk when it comes to

21:03

going for it, you know, whatever it may

21:05

be in their career versus the safety of

21:07

that W-2, that paycheck, that putting money away

21:10

into that 401K. I'm

21:12

curious if you have some type of lesson or

21:14

maxim you talk about when it comes to taking

21:16

risk in your career. I

21:21

think taking risk the rest of your life is a good

21:24

thing. It makes you alive. It's

21:26

adventurous. It's a good thing.

21:28

But the rule I use for risk in

21:31

business or career management or those kinds of

21:33

things comes from Jim Collins,

21:35

our friend that wrote the book Good to Great.

21:38

And he says before you shoot a

21:40

cannonball, which takes a lot

21:42

of powder and is a

21:44

big deal, shoot

21:46

muskets and make

21:49

sure that you can get your target

21:51

aligned. And so take

21:53

risks with smaller things, smaller bites. So

21:56

you don't have to take a risk

21:58

and say, if this doesn't work, I'm bankrupt. up but

22:00

I'm going for it, you don't have

22:02

to do that. That's not necessary in

22:04

today's world. You can start side gigs,

22:06

you can start side hustles. A lot

22:08

of things that we do in today's

22:10

world, an entrepreneur, we coach a lot

22:12

of entrepreneurs, about 10,000 small businesses and

22:15

we tell them take small risks, but

22:17

take a risk every day. So for

22:19

some people the idea that I would

22:22

ever leave the quote unquote safety of

22:24

a W-2 job and opening a business

22:26

is an anxiety producing statement. Just

22:28

to say that, they get all

22:31

tight. I definitely would

22:33

do that. I definitely would do that. But just to

22:36

go in and quit and have no idea or

22:39

I'm going to go $150,000 in debt to

22:41

open a restaurant and I've never cooked anything

22:43

that anybody bought. People

22:46

do that crap. That's not risk, that's

22:48

foolish. That's rash. And

22:51

so calculated risk where we calculated

22:53

and we got alignment with the

22:55

musket balls first. And so you've

22:57

had a catering business running out

22:59

of your basement for four years

23:02

and you're already making with that on the

23:05

side what you used to make at work.

23:07

Well now it's time to open a restaurant

23:09

maybe. But I've never cooked anything and I

23:11

heard somebody say once at

23:13

my barbecue that I ought to open

23:15

a barbecue restaurant. Well crap, just meet

23:17

everybody in Texas, right? I mean come

23:19

on. That's ridiculous. So no,

23:21

you don't do that. A

23:26

little bit of biographical stuff that I'm curious

23:28

about now as well. Your lesson and your

23:30

advice when it comes to debt is hard

23:32

earned. I mean it's through your life experience

23:34

not just academic, right? In the 80s, early

23:36

in your career, I guess

23:39

you learned the lessons of debt the hard way. Well

23:43

I did. I grew up in the real estate

23:45

business and one of the things in the real

23:47

estate business they do is they take your risk

23:49

meter out and hit it with a hammer and

23:51

break it where you no longer measure risk at

23:53

all. It's just everything's good. All debt is good.

23:55

Borrow all you can, buy all you can and

23:58

the nothing down real estate. movement. It's

24:00

not new because of TikTok. It's been

24:02

around for a while. It's

24:04

not new because of everything that

24:06

everybody is renovating a show on cable

24:08

TV. But yeah, I was

24:10

doing Flip This House before Chip and Joanna were

24:12

born. So we were, I

24:15

mean, they're great people. But I mean, I was 22 years

24:18

old. I bought my first house and I bought it

24:20

100% debt. I didn't have

24:23

any money. And I flipped it and I

24:25

made a little money and I did that over and over

24:27

again. I made money, made money, made money, made money. And

24:29

then I had a million two out with one bank and

24:32

I had about $3 million worth of debt total.

24:35

And I was flipping and I owned a bunch of

24:37

rentals at the time too. And I had grown a

24:39

million dollar net worth by the time I was 24

24:41

years old and 25 years

24:44

old. And so I was making $200,000 a year in 1983,

24:49

which is probably like half a million now. You know,

24:51

I mean, it's a lot of money for, especially for

24:53

a hillbilly kid like me. But

24:55

the bank got sold to another bank and

24:58

some guy in another city looked down and said,

25:00

there's a kid in Nashville. Oh, that's a million

25:02

two and he's flipping houses. This looks scary. Let's

25:05

limit this relationship, which is banker talk

25:07

for screw him and ruin your life.

25:09

So they called our notes and we spent

25:12

the next two and a half years of our life losing everything

25:14

we owned. And so we went

25:16

straight up and straight down. It

25:18

was, there was no middle ground with any of

25:20

that. It was a wild ride. So yeah, I've

25:23

got a PhD in DUMB. I know what stupid

25:25

looks like. I've looked at it in a mirror.

25:28

And so, you know, I mean, I, I,

25:30

and we hit bottom at age 28 and

25:32

got the opportunity to start again and try

25:35

to learn from our lessons. And that's when

25:37

I started studying old rich people and

25:40

not young rich people. I had been him. I didn't

25:42

want his opinion, but I started talking to people with

25:44

gray hair and no hair. And they

25:46

said, live on less than you make, have a budget,

25:49

stay out of debt. It's the

25:51

tortoise versus the hair. Well,

25:55

you looked whatever you said, dumb in the mirror

25:57

and from the outside from a distance, it looks

25:59

like that's in the rear view mirror now. I'm

26:02

sure you still make your mistakes, everyone does. I'm

26:06

curious though about your media business. This is the part

26:08

where I started and I'm a fan of. I've

26:12

been in this business for a while. They've been

26:14

at it as an entrepreneur. As

26:16

I mentioned, a chain of small town

26:18

newspapers. I've raised money and

26:20

started a national magazine.

26:22

I've been a W2 employee of

26:24

big corporations like Disney and Fox.

26:28

And one of the things that I've learned, and

26:30

I feel really confident about this, is

26:32

that when it comes to where the media's headed, nobody

26:36

in the hell knows where the answer is. They

26:38

don't have any idea of the future of the

26:40

media. I completely agree. No one. No

26:43

CEO, no billionaire, no one. They know

26:45

how to destroy. We've figured out how

26:47

to destroy old businesses like newspapers and

26:49

we're on our way with cable television

26:51

perhaps. But they haven't figured out how

26:53

to create the next big thing despite

26:55

the fact that we get viral sensations

26:57

and people with a lot of followers.

26:59

But you've done something unique and I

27:01

think somewhat off the map in terms

27:03

of the online relevance and virality. You've

27:05

got a real ongoing concern.

27:07

You've got a real media business. Now

27:09

you got into it with syndicated radio

27:11

in the 90s, which is

27:13

one of the best businesses ever. Built Rush, Bill Howard,

27:16

built you. But I'm curious, as

27:18

you've invented and reinvented this media company,

27:21

what do you think? I mean, I'm

27:23

just curious your mindset on the media. Beyond agreeing

27:26

with me, nobody knows what tomorrow holds, you're building

27:28

something that seems to be lasting the test of

27:30

time. You

27:32

know, what we figured out early was

27:34

that we are not in the media

27:37

business. And

27:39

as long as we keep our head straight

27:41

about that, then we're okay. It keeps us

27:43

from going down a rabbit hole somewhere. We're

27:45

in the content delivery business. We

27:48

help people by teaching them. Now,

27:51

what format can we teach

27:53

them in? Well, I can write books, that's a

27:55

format. I can do live events from stage with

27:57

5,000 people in the audience. That's a format. We've

27:59

used both of those, still use both of those.

28:03

And then we got into talk radio,

28:05

backed into it accidentally, about a perfect

28:07

timing. I couldn't have dreamed up

28:09

the timing. It couldn't have been any better and

28:12

have scratched and clawed through that business and

28:14

grown it and put up with

28:16

all the weird stuff that is radio and

28:19

680 stations now. It's

28:21

crazy. But what

28:23

we figured out all along was when

28:25

SiriusXM and Sirius, they're two different companies, put

28:28

two satellites in the air for 150 million

28:30

each, or two sets of

28:33

satellites. We went on both

28:35

of them. And

28:37

everybody said, oh, you can't do that. I said,

28:39

well, we just did it. And your affiliates are

28:42

all going to be pissed on terrestrial. Well, it

28:44

doesn't matter. I'm going on both of them. I'm

28:46

in the content delivery business and that makes me

28:48

platform agnostic. And so I'm

28:50

not going to bet the farm, talk

28:52

about risk, on one platform.

28:55

And so we screwed

28:58

around with YouTube and messed with it in the early

29:00

days. And it kind of limped along.

29:03

And then in the last 36

29:05

months, it's become a huge platform.

29:09

Guy walked in my office and said

29:11

he had this crazy idea, I don't

29:13

know, 15 years ago, 10 years

29:15

ago, he said, you know, broadband is

29:18

here, dial-up is gone. We

29:20

need to do one of these podcasts. And I said, what the? What's

29:23

a podcast? And he's

29:25

like, whatever. And I'm like, well, okay. But I'll

29:28

try it, I guess. Well, nobody in talk radio wanted

29:30

to do them because they're all worried about their affiliates

29:32

or worried about putting up a paywall or whatever. We

29:34

didn't put up a paywall. We just put it out

29:36

there. And it's huge.

29:38

I mean, we've had, we're number

29:40

one, two, five, somewhere in there bouncing

29:43

around on Apple now, a

29:45

billion downloads. It's crazy. But we're

29:47

platform agnostic because that'll go away.

29:51

It'll be MySpace someday. And

29:54

it'll change. And so I'm not going to

29:56

bet the farm on one. We just, we're

29:58

on everything all the time. If anyone

30:00

of them wants to be pissed off, then I'm

30:02

just not going to be able to be on it

30:04

because we're not giving you an exclusive. And

30:07

by the way, really quick, the days. That's

30:10

given us the foundation to grow and change. And

30:12

so, I mean, someday I'll be a freaking hologram in your

30:14

living room. You know, I mean, I don't know. Well,

30:18

are you, do you feel any pressure? We'll leave it with

30:20

this last bit here. Do you feel any pressure to be

30:22

early? You know, meaning, you know,

30:25

Rogan gets to podcasts early and he benefits

30:27

from that for being real. You

30:29

guys get to YouTube early and they benefit

30:31

from that because it takes, it's nobody's an

30:33

overnight success. They grind, they grind, they grind,

30:35

and then you explode, right? On these platforms.

30:37

So, what not? That's TikTok or whatever's next

30:39

day. Do you feel pressure? I got to

30:41

be there early with my content? We

30:45

get there early just because we'll

30:47

try anything. But again, we

30:49

got on TikTok and I hate it. I

30:51

hate TikTok, but on a personal level, but

30:54

it's fabulous for business. We

30:57

just got back from a trip and I was in Iceland

30:59

and a kid runs over to me 23 years old. He

31:02

goes, you're that guy on TikTok. I mean, good God.

31:04

Where else do you get that? You

31:07

know? So, you know, it's, you

31:09

know, so yeah, we're going to be there early, but again,

31:11

I'm not, we're not going to put

31:13

all our weight over there until the thing starts

31:16

giving us reason to put weight on it. We're

31:18

just going to touch it. Just

31:20

enter into it gradually. And that's why

31:22

even though we were on podcasts before

31:24

Rogan, he kicked our butts in the

31:26

podcast world. But overall,

31:28

we kick his butt on the overall

31:30

footprint. So, you

31:32

know, but that, but again, he was trying

31:34

to do that one thing and he's the

31:37

world's best at that. He's really good. Joe's

31:39

show's incredible. Right. Well,

31:42

like you said, you've been the guy that somebody runs up

31:44

to you and says, I listened to you on radio. Now

31:47

you're the guy, you're that guy from TikTok. So we

31:49

get the point. Nobody knows where the industry's headed.

31:51

You might as well be everywhere to see where it will

31:53

go. It's been an awesome

31:55

conversation. Dave Ramsey will check you out, by

31:58

the way, on TikTok, YouTube, radio. books and

32:00

everywhere else you are with Ramsey Solutions. Thanks

32:02

so much for being on the Will Kane

32:04

show today Dave. Well our honor

32:06

to be with you. You guys are doing a great job. Thanks

32:08

for having me. All

32:10

right take care. There he goes. Dave

32:13

Ramsey again you can check him out. He's got multiple

32:15

best sellers. You

32:17

can obviously catch him on radio and

32:19

podcast. It's Entre leadership podcast and the

32:21

Ramsey show on radio.

32:24

Of course he's where we are here. Facebook,

32:26

YouTube and everywhere you get

32:29

your content. Hey he brought up

32:31

satellites. Last night I

32:33

was having a real you know country boy

32:36

night. It was good. It felt like I was like

32:38

a man in the desert who'd finally found an oasis

32:41

drinking water or a plant that's finally been potted back

32:43

into its soil. I had family night back up in

32:45

North Texas in the country and we went frog gigging

32:48

and we're standing out there and the

32:50

frogs are you know croaking

32:54

and my son looks up and goes what is that? Which

32:57

I mean he's up in the sky. All the stars are

32:59

out. You can see everything out there in

33:02

the country and it was a string of

33:04

greenish bluish lights. I'd

33:07

say about oh man not

33:10

that high up you know a couple

33:13

thousand feet up in the air. Lower than the

33:16

than forget commercial air flights. I'm

33:18

lower than you know your personal

33:21

aviation crafts and

33:23

it's just real silently moving across

33:25

the sky. What is that?

33:28

A string of lights. Was

33:31

it aliens? That's next. Plus

33:35

they finally admit the truth but why now

33:38

about Donald Trump and calling

33:40

Nazis very fun people on The Wilkain Show.

33:57

Or wherever you download podcasts.

34:00

Yeah, it's

34:02

notable. It's

34:09

interesting. Maybe it's important

34:12

that Snopes, self-anointed

34:15

fact checker, finally admits that Donald Trump did

34:17

not call Nazis very fine people.

34:20

But maybe the more important point is

34:22

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34:43

older that I get, somebody asked me, hey, what's

34:45

some of the favorite interviews you've ever done? And

34:48

I'm like, I don't know. I need to sit down and make

34:50

a list. And then somebody separately asked me, who

34:52

have you ever interviewed that is just like, wow, that's not

34:54

the person I thought they would be. And I was like,

34:56

I don't know. My memory is failing and I need to

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The Will Kane Show on YouTube. So

35:20

last night, decided

35:23

to do a little frog gigging. My oldest son had a

35:25

friend visiting from New York. So we were like, well, let's

35:27

just get as country as we can get. So we loaded

35:29

up in like a 1984 Bronco,

35:31

which looked like a murder starters

35:34

kit. We had several shotguns, a

35:37

frog gig in pole, chemicals, rope.

35:40

It looked like we were out ready to, you

35:43

know, become the next Richard Ramirez. But

35:45

instead we were just looking to take

35:47

down some frogs. We didn't. We

35:49

failed. You know what's shocking about frog gigging?

35:52

By the way, we don't kill them. We got a real

35:55

cool frog gig in pole. It doesn't stab them. It just

35:57

kind of snaps close. Some

35:59

jaws. around their body and then you can pry open the

36:02

jaws and they're fine you can let them go but

36:04

you know you hear all this racket from

36:06

frogs and when you finally spot one often

36:08

I mean they're tiny so you

36:11

got to get that deep croaker you got to

36:13

get that belly that deep thing

36:15

coming from the the depths of Hades when you

36:17

know you got a big fat frog and I'm

36:19

talking we've caught some that are I

36:21

mean they're dripping out of your hands and you it's a

36:24

two-hander for sure but

36:26

instead of getting frogs last night we looked up and

36:30

two days in young establishment James maybe

36:32

most importantly tinfoil Pat my

36:35

son saw this string of lights across the sky what

36:38

is that now I already

36:40

put on social media what it was so you guys

36:42

know you probably know because I said what

36:44

it was because we googled immediately but

36:47

it was creepy it's like what is

36:49

that and it turns out this string

36:51

of bluish green lights yes silently

36:54

moving from one end of the sky to the other it's

36:59

starlink oh no that's

37:01

satellite that's such a let down I

37:03

thought it was something I know but it was a fun it was

37:06

a fun five minutes before it was ruined by Google

37:09

it was a fun five minutes of what

37:11

is that I you don't believe

37:14

in satellites tinfoil I think

37:18

that they're probably some in low orbit like

37:21

starlink but the fact that you can't

37:23

get reception in the desert doesn't make

37:26

any sense uh-huh it

37:28

shouldn't be oh and then if

37:30

I go out in the desert with a

37:32

little handheld Sirius XM thing

37:34

I can't I can't get Dave Ramsey probably

37:37

not also

37:39

not sure that's true tinfoil pretty

37:42

sure 98% of the internet

37:45

connections on earth are via deep

37:48

trench wire

37:51

connections from continent

37:53

to continent so I don't know

37:55

I just think a lot a lot of people being

37:57

told is a little bit fascinating Okay,

38:00

let me thank you for that. I'm gonna squint for a little while and see

38:02

if I can see what you're talking about What

38:06

what do you got to a day so what

38:08

are you trying to get to know what frog

38:10

gigging is? What in the

38:12

world are you talking about and what is

38:14

that and no? Thank you

38:17

catching frogs? You're cool. Oh,

38:19

what are you talking about? I'm not touching frogs you

38:21

nuts Slimy

38:23

you guys are pans. What is wrong

38:26

with you? There's no way It

38:29

is super fun. I don't know I'm I'm

38:32

certainly no professional. I'll tell you how we

38:34

do it Go

38:36

out onto the onto the back 40 got

38:38

we got a place with several ponds Tanks

38:41

right load up into a bronco or something like

38:43

that and have several spotlights, you

38:45

know hard, you know Directional

38:48

spotlighting, you know like a cop when he pulls you over

38:50

and asks you for your ID and

38:52

you listen for the deep croaking Right you got

38:54

it. There'll be a lot of frogs making a

38:57

Ton of racket, but a big one a

38:59

big bullfrog is super deep James

39:03

you think you're that guy in police academy

39:05

that is really good at making noises, but

39:07

you're not man. You're just not I don't

39:09

know what you just did So

39:18

anyway once you hear it Then you spotlight

39:20

the banks of the of the pond and

39:22

if you catch two little shining lights That's

39:24

their eyes and once you spotlight them

39:26

They'll freeze pretty much they won't move and then you

39:28

creep up behind them and we've got a big frog

39:31

gig and pole Right. It's like, you know, it's long.

39:33

It's probably 20 feet long No,

39:36

you come up behind. It's got some jaws on the end of

39:38

it And it's got a little like

39:41

when it was a little pressure like that the

39:43

jaws will close, right? And even

39:45

if it happened to you, I mean they're pronged, but they're

39:47

not sharp So the frog can't slip

39:49

out, but it doesn't cut into the frog. So it's

39:51

humane. So Exactly

39:55

so you come up behind them and

39:57

then you you get them with your gig and pole Then

40:00

you pull them up in the eyes. I mean

40:03

if you look back on my social media. I'll

40:05

go find one I'm a I'll update it on

40:07

my Instagram see will Kane You'll see some monsters

40:09

that we've gotten a couple years ago. It was

40:12

struck out last night, but that's frog gigging So

40:15

weird, what do you do with great fun? Texas is a

40:17

weird place, man Well,

40:20

I don't know that's just Texas, but You

40:23

know with our poll we can throw them back if

40:25

you if you get the kind that Stab them then

40:28

you're gonna you have you're signing up for some

40:30

frog legs And you'd

40:32

eat frog legs. They're like chicken. I would try I

40:34

would Thank

40:41

you tin foil sounds fake all right

40:43

I'll tell you what was fake was

40:45

the idea that Donald Trump called Nazis

40:48

very fine people Seven

40:50

years ago in the wake of Charlottesville That's

40:53

what was claimed by everyone everyone

40:56

everyone in mainstream media and to

40:58

this day By Joe Biden

41:00

Joe Biden said that moment in Charlottesville inspired

41:02

him to run for president The idea that

41:05

Donald Trump got up there and said there's

41:07

very fine people on both sides including the

41:09

Nazis That is what you would hear

41:12

I don't know what you would hear today But

41:14

I can guarantee you that's what you would hear

41:16

for the better part of the last half decade

41:19

on CNN Finally this

41:22

week just the other day late last week Snopes

41:24

a self-styled fact checker admits

41:28

Donald Trump did not call

41:31

Nazis very fine people This

41:34

wasn't a hard fact check by the way It

41:36

should have taken seven years because all one had

41:38

to do was listen listen

41:41

to what he had to say

41:43

beyond a very tightly self-selected and

41:45

edited clip or Beyond

41:47

the characterization and paraphrase

41:50

of some untrustworthy quote-unquote

41:52

fact checker or journalist

41:54

Just listen to Donald

41:56

Trump like I'm gonna allow

41:58

you to do right now what

42:00

he said back then in Charlottesville.

42:04

But you also had people that were

42:08

very fine people on both sides. You

42:11

had people in that group, excuse me, excuse

42:13

me, I saw the same pictures as you

42:15

did. You had people in

42:17

that group that were there to

42:19

protest the taking down of, to them,

42:21

a very, very important statue and the

42:23

renaming of a park from Robert E.

42:25

Lee to another name. George

42:29

Washington was a slave owner. Was

42:31

George Washington a slave owner? So

42:34

will George Washington now lose his status? Are

42:36

we going to take down, excuse me, are

42:38

we going to take down, are we going

42:41

to take down statues to George Washington? How

42:43

about Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of

42:45

Thomas Jefferson? You like him? Okay,

42:48

good. Are we going to take down the statue? Because

42:50

he was a major slave owner. Now we're

42:52

going to take down his statue. So

42:54

you know what? It's fine. You're

42:56

changing history, you're changing culture, and you

42:58

had people, and I'm not talking about

43:01

the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists because

43:03

they should be condemned totally, but

43:05

you had many people in that

43:08

group other than neo-Nazis and white

43:10

nationalists, okay? And the press has

43:12

treated them absolutely unfairly.

43:17

So amazing. He

43:20

explicitly had said, I'm

43:23

not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white

43:26

nationalists. They should be condemned.

43:29

That was in his words, repeated on

43:31

twice occasions. But he

43:33

also acknowledged that there

43:35

was a legitimate debate to be had

43:37

with sincere people that he called very

43:40

fine people about the merits of the

43:42

protest that day in

43:44

Charlottesville. Now are

43:46

we suggesting that everyone who opposes Robert

43:49

E. Lee's statues being taken down

43:51

or Thomas Jefferson's or

43:53

George Washington's are Nazis? Is

43:56

that the implication? Because I think that's pretty extreme.

44:01

position to hold. He's suggesting,

44:03

hey, there was legitimate debate. By the way,

44:05

those people were permitted, the ones that had

44:08

a legitimate debate point. The

44:10

counter protesters were not permitted,

44:12

and the neo-Nazis and the white

44:14

nationalists not permitted, and he condemned those

44:17

people. But somehow that got clipped, reduced,

44:19

and repeated ad nauseam that Donald Trump

44:21

called Nazis very fine people. Now there's

44:23

a chance for many of you listening,

44:26

that's the first time you've heard that

44:28

clip in full. There's

44:30

a chance that in your mind it was still like, well he

44:32

did, didn't he? Because it was just repeated. You

44:34

know, it was just repeated on loop. And

44:38

that's what the press did. And

44:40

that was a lie. That was fake.

44:43

That was a hoax. Like

44:45

so many other hoaxes, like

44:48

the Steele dossier, right? The Russia collusion

44:50

hoax. Like the fact that

44:53

America and Donald Trump knew that

44:55

Russia was paying bounties to kill American

44:57

citizens. Like the Hunter Biden laptop is

45:00

Russian disinformation hoax. And on

45:02

and on and on. There's several people

45:04

out there who have collected and it

45:06

numbers well into the 20s. Above the

45:08

20s, the number of hoaxes that have

45:10

just been accepted because they get repeated

45:14

on loop by the quote-unquote

45:17

respectable members of the media. But

45:19

when you hear something like I just played for

45:22

you, and you measure that against the story that

45:24

was sold to you, how do

45:26

you ever trust them again? Now,

45:29

there are still people that just won't believe

45:31

it. I saw after Snopes pushed this out

45:33

this week, people commenting, who got to Snopes?

45:36

Is there a Trump member on their board?

45:39

You know, on and on. We all heard him say it. We

45:42

can believe our eyes and our ears. Did you hear him

45:44

see it? Say it? Did you ever hear

45:46

the clip I just played for you? Did you

45:49

hear exactly what he just said? There

45:52

are some people who still just would

45:55

rather believe the lie than to hear the truth. But

45:58

I think the most interesting question may be, Why now? For

46:01

Snopes. I

46:03

mean, why? Seven years later. Why

46:05

now admit to the truth? It's been obvious for

46:07

quite some time. It was obvious from day one

46:09

you could listen to that full clip in context.

46:11

It didn't take deep investigative research. So

46:14

why now? Hmm.

46:18

That's interesting, right? Will

46:20

Joe Biden repeat that lie on Thursday

46:22

night in the CNN presidential debate, which will be

46:24

simulcast on Fox? He said

46:26

it's why he ran for president. Will the campaign

46:28

continue to, as they have for years now, say

46:31

that Donald Trump called white nationalists very fine people?

46:35

Will anybody fact check it? Will he bring up Snopes?

46:39

If so, why are they selling out

46:41

Joe Biden right now? One of the main pillars of

46:44

his reason for running for president. Why

46:47

would they take away that talking point?

46:49

Why now? Less

46:52

than good news for Donald Trump makes me wonder.

46:56

Fact checkers who obviously have no interest in checking

46:58

facts might

47:02

be less about good news for Donald Trump. Might

47:04

be really bad news for

47:06

Joe Biden. All right. I

47:09

paid my debt to Tyrus. Muscle

47:11

shirt, mini championship

47:14

belt, backward hat, all

47:17

for your viewing pleasure this past weekend on

47:20

Fox and Friends weekend. I'll

47:22

pay that debt forward to you next on The

47:24

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47:34

my word, paid my debts, paid Tyrus

47:38

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47:40

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community like Eric Reed, who said, I

48:00

disagree with Dave Ramsey. Productivity

48:03

and company growth skyrocketed for most

48:05

companies while most worked from home.

48:08

I don't think that's factually true, Eric.

48:10

I think that most research suggested that

48:12

productivity went down during the pandemic

48:14

and worked from home. I'm happy to hear the

48:16

stats that you have, the research, and I'm

48:18

happy to grab mine, but my understanding

48:21

is Dave is right. Productivity

48:23

went down during work from home. Mark

48:26

Wells says, bro, how on earth is anyone

48:28

voting for Biden? Would his voters

48:30

even let him drive their car? That

48:32

is such a really good

48:34

hypothetical. Would you let

48:36

Joe Biden drive you and

48:38

rush our traffic to work? Would

48:42

you let Joe Biden run America? Brandon

48:46

Conner says on X, I

48:48

actually listened to Dave Ramsey in 2007 to get out of debt, and

48:52

here we are. I'm debt free. That's

48:54

great. Brandon, I'm sure it's not just

48:56

financially healthy, but as Dave pointed out,

48:59

it's actually physically healthy. It's a

49:02

lot of cortisol out of your system. Good

49:04

for your stress levels. James Fa

49:06

on X says, young people are too lazy to

49:09

buy a home. They're waiting for mom and dad

49:11

to leave theirs. I don't know, James. I

49:14

don't know. You know, there's a lot of things to criticize.

49:18

Future generations, younger generations about

49:21

everybody wants to

49:23

acquire wealth. I don't know

49:25

that laziness is driving their lack of

49:27

desire in homeownership. Although I will

49:30

say to your point, there's more and

49:32

more people living at home at later and later ages.

49:35

Denise Mize Beatt says on YouTube,

49:37

the poor economy is trivial in

49:39

comparison to what Biden has done

49:41

to this country on so many

49:43

other fronts, open borders for starters.

49:46

And Dawn on YouTube says, what poor

49:48

economy? There are

49:51

some who think the economy is going great. That's

49:53

kind of what Dave talks about. It's weird.

49:56

It's a weird economy where there's a lot

49:58

of insecurity, obviously high inflation, correspondingly high

50:00

interest rates, threats to commercial real estate.

50:03

If commercial real estate fails, threats to

50:05

banks. If banks fail, threat to the

50:08

economy and recession. Those are

50:10

all real. Pressure on

50:12

the poor and working class

50:14

members of America because

50:19

inflation is a tax on the poor. But

50:21

yet there's a lot of people walking around going, it's going fine for me. Everything's

50:24

going fine for me. Hmm,

50:27

just makes me feel like we're skating out on thin ice in

50:29

the middle of a pond. All

50:31

right, so I made a bet with Tyrus. Maverick,

50:34

Celtics, NBA finals. I never felt real good about

50:36

the bets. I'm not even sure why I did

50:38

it, but the bet was I would

50:41

have to wear some attire of Tyrus'

50:43

choosing. I sure had to say I love Tyrus,

50:45

whatever it may be on Fox and

50:47

Friends. My co-host this weekend, Rachel Campos-Duffy and

50:49

Charlie Hurt filming for Pete Hekstead, didn't know

50:52

what was gonna go down. Producers didn't know. I just

50:54

said, hey, in the nine o'clock hour, I

50:56

need a little bit of time here. I gotta pay a

50:59

bet. And this is how it

51:01

went on Fox and Friends weekend. A

51:04

small bet with Tyrus here. You look like you're

51:06

in the middle of a hulk. That I would

51:08

have to be up. I hope you're watching Tyrus.

51:10

Oh, God, and it's a muscle shirt. This is

51:13

horrible. This is worse than I thought. What is

51:15

this, like, oh my. It's not over,

51:17

Rachel. Oh, oh,

51:19

oh, you have to dress like Tyrus. Oh,

51:22

I'm not saying. I lost every piece

51:24

of dignity and apparatus needed to do

51:26

this show this morning. There

51:29

you go. There you go. Okay, I'll

51:31

do it. Boston Celtics champion Tyrus. This

51:34

is real. Dignity sacrificed. There

51:37

we go. You're listening on

51:40

podcast or radio. Sleeveless. And

51:44

as the boys pointed out here in the list, pretty

51:46

pale. Pretty pale. A little bit of

51:48

farmer's tan or a TV tan on the face. Yeah,

51:52

guys, I mean, I would say,

51:54

you know, dignity sacrificed, you

51:56

know, how do you go from that to interviewing the

51:58

president? But, I mean, I... I hate to hold

52:00

up my championship belt and your scoreboard, but I

52:03

just did interview a former president in Donald Trump.

52:05

So somehow I'm pulling it off. Call

52:08

me Matt Lauer, I guess, not the other parts of Matt

52:10

Lauer, but you know the ability to make a fool of

52:12

yourself and interview a president.

52:15

Well, I think the little belt's pretty dope, actually.

52:17

It's kind of cool. The shirt was all right,

52:19

looks like you work out in it. The hat

52:21

just doesn't do it for you, I'm sorry to

52:23

say. That was

52:25

bad, that was a bad look? Yeah, just not for you. Some

52:27

people can't pull it off, some people can. And

52:29

tires can, you cannot. I'll just put that

52:32

up there. What, you're

52:34

saying ball cap in general or the backwards hat? Backwards

52:36

hat, for sure. You're a forward hat guy. Yeah, you're

52:38

a forward hat guy. I

52:41

am definitely a forward hat guy. I

52:44

can't imagine a scenario where I would show up like

52:47

side of the sideline of the soccer

52:49

field, the boys are playing, I'm over

52:51

there rocking a backwards, a backwards fitted

52:53

hat. I just can't imagine this scenario.

52:55

I hate to like, you

52:57

know, follow Colin Coward's lead, but

53:00

I don't, backwards hats, not a

53:02

great look. Just not a good look. Unless

53:05

you're middle school or young or something, or

53:08

Tyrus, but I don't want him to be mad at

53:10

me. Or like a surfer, I guess

53:12

maybe like you just got out of, you just got done

53:14

surfing, so you just throw the hat on backwards maybe. If

53:16

you have long hair. Yeah. Yeah.

53:21

The flow. I think Pete could pull it off. Also by

53:23

the way, Pete's got gray hair,

53:26

James. I mean, it's

53:28

a vibe. I actually think Pete does wear it. I

53:30

actually think Pete does wear a backwards hat. He would.

53:33

Now that you say that, he

53:35

would, what I would wore that day, I

53:37

think Pete would wear in

53:39

sincerity with earnestness. He

53:41

would wear a basketball jersey, tank top, you

53:43

know, and a backwards hat. I

53:46

think he definitely would. With the tats and everything, yeah. I

53:48

think I have too. I think I

53:50

have. No,

53:53

not big on the visor either. I'm

53:56

not a visor guy. I don't think that's a

53:58

good, I don't see that look. It doesn't work. You

54:00

have to be a college football coach to pull that off. Like

54:04

a 90s golfer. 90s

54:08

college football coach like Steve Spurrier. Vijay Singh used to wear

54:10

that on PGA Tour. Yeah.

54:16

The tank top, I'm just also, I've never been

54:18

a tank top guy. Now, I don't, don't, I

54:20

mean, McAfee's got that market cornered and it looks

54:22

normal on him. Like you don't even think, hey,

54:24

that guy's wearing a tank top. But

54:27

I put on tank top and it's screaming. That dude's

54:30

got on a tank top. But that wasn't a tank

54:32

top. That was a cut off shirt. That was like

54:34

a cut with scissors shirt,

54:36

which is like a basketball look. You

54:38

know what I mean? That like really short

54:40

end basketball look. So

54:42

just, it's a tough one to pull off again, but

54:45

you know, get some tan on those bad boys. I

54:47

was just happy. I will,

54:49

I will. I'll get some tan. Keep,

54:52

I want to keep the chest hair for making

54:54

a national TV, you know, starring performance. That's all

54:56

that. I was a little happy. That's all that.

54:58

When I look back on it, I,

55:00

that was my favorite. My, I was, I was most

55:02

happy that it, there was not

55:04

a starring performance for the chest hair. It

55:07

was mainly remains hidden. So, leave it for

55:09

the podcast. All

55:14

right, so there you go, Tyrus. Tyrus Smash.

55:17

That was what my t-shirt said. That is also his

55:19

social media profile. There you go. Debt paid.

55:21

Man of my word. And

55:24

looks like I now get a little mini championship belt.

55:27

Championship belt for losers. Paying

55:30

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55:32

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