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I tend to think

2:17

thematically. I tend

2:19

to draw connections. Arcs

2:22

circles around stories I tend to

2:24

think about what ties everything together

2:27

not just what might exist and

2:29

flow under the current but What

2:31

is the umbrella that makes sense

2:34

of the chaos of the news

2:36

and then there is the Lord

2:38

that seems to speak to you

2:41

at times in Coincidence this morning

2:43

I woke up and rushed through

2:45

some of my preparation for the

2:48

two shows I spend with you

2:50

here every day on the Wilcane

2:52

show. Because I needed to get

2:55

over to my children's school. There

2:58

is an event, a

3:00

tradition, called Pass It

3:03

On at my kids school. It's

3:05

where all the seniors pass on

3:07

a light to the eighth graders.

3:10

So the soon to be freshman in college, pass

3:12

it on at the soon to be ninth graders

3:14

in high school. I have an eighth grader. So

3:16

I needed to go to the Pass It On

3:18

ceremony this morning. Unfortunately, I

3:20

was only able to stay for about half

3:22

of the ceremony, had to rush home, rush

3:25

back to the studio, rush to be

3:27

with you. But in the time I

3:29

was there, I listened to a senior

3:32

and an eighth grader give a speech.

3:34

And maybe because the Lord works in mysterious

3:36

ways, the speeches today were

3:39

about the value of tradition. It's really

3:41

good. It's really heartening

3:43

to hear that coming from a

3:45

13 year old. They

3:48

talked about how tradition can be

3:50

mocked. They talked about, though, also

3:52

how it's the tie that binds

3:54

our culture, our ideas, us

3:56

as people, together. I

3:58

want to read from you now a

4:00

synopsis of the new book by Fox

4:02

host Julie Banderas. The book is entitled

4:05

A Monumental Mistake. It's a

4:07

story of respect, responsibility, and learning from

4:09

those who came before us. When

4:11

Fiona the lioness, Moby the bear,

4:14

author of the lion, And Cassius

4:16

the Tiger stumble upon a forgotten

4:19

statue deep in the Wigamore Woods.

4:21

They each respond differently. Some

4:23

mock the past, others seek to honor it.

4:25

But when a dangerous force is unleashed, the

4:28

young animals learn that respecting history is more

4:30

than just good manners. It

4:33

is essential for the protection of the

4:35

future. I

4:37

don't know that we should believe in

4:40

coincidences, but tradition has been hammered home

4:42

to me through the speech of an

4:44

eighth grader. and the guest I have

4:46

here today on The Wilcane Show. And

4:48

I think it fits in very nicely

4:50

to the thematic umbrella that hits us

4:52

today in the news. Let's get to

4:54

it with story number one. I

5:00

want to read from you some

5:02

headlines today in the news. First,

5:05

I bring you this from

5:07

Massachusetts Live to headline, two

5:10

Harvard students set to undergo

5:12

management. anger management for

5:14

assaulting a student, says the

5:17

district attorney. Meanwhile,

5:20

a new study out of Harvard indicates

5:22

that not just Jewish students but Muslim

5:24

students as well on that campus feel

5:27

quote unquote unsafe. 67

5:29

% of Jewish students, according to

5:31

the Harvard University Task Force of

5:33

2024, feel discomfort

5:35

in expressing their opinions. Meanwhile,

5:38

80 % of Muslim students

5:40

feel discomfort. in expressing their

5:42

opinions. This comes

5:44

as Harvard has put together a

5:46

presidential task force to analyze the

5:49

campus environment and what's been going

5:51

on now for several years we

5:53

have seen on that campus. Elise

5:57

Defonic talking about Harvard, Congresswoman

5:59

from New York, says

6:01

the following when it comes to

6:04

the campus climate at Harvard. Harvard's

6:06

own task force reveals long time

6:08

deep rooted dangerous and rampant anti

6:11

-Semitism embedded in coursework, campus life,

6:13

and faculty hiring. This is further

6:15

confirmation of a significant moral crisis

6:18

facing higher education that I have

6:20

sounded the alarm on in Congress.

6:23

There must be accountability and real

6:25

reform to save American higher education,

6:27

not just reports. And

6:30

then finally, Fox News headline

6:32

today, President Donald Trump has

6:34

revoked 4 ,000 foreign student

6:36

visas in the first 100

6:38

days of his administration. Nearly

6:40

all of those revocations are

6:42

students with serious criminal records.

6:46

Something is going on in

6:48

the Quad. And I

6:50

think when their news is about... college

6:52

campuses and the attitudes and opinions and

6:54

the behaviors of college students, we can

6:56

fall into hysteria or we can fall

6:58

into derision. We often think about these

7:01

dumb students. They're just kids. What do

7:03

they get these ridiculous ideas? But

7:05

I think history would encourage us

7:07

not to take all of this

7:09

quite so lightly because what begins

7:11

usually on the quad ends up

7:13

as a powder keg. Throughout

7:17

history, revolutions

7:20

have rarely started with farmers and pitchforks.

7:23

They have rarely started in the halls

7:25

of Congress. From

7:28

Cal Berkeley to

7:30

Paris, from

7:32

Tehran to Tiananmen Square, what

7:35

you've seen happen among young people, and

7:37

especially college students, has

7:40

sparked movements that have threatened, or

7:43

in reality, changed

7:45

nations. And

7:48

whether it's Harvard or Columbia or UCLA, whether

7:50

it's Jewish students or Muslim students, whether

7:53

it's just a protest, a campus

7:55

sit -in, or something deeper, we

7:59

should pay attention to what's happening

8:01

on college campuses. Let's

8:04

look through history for a moment. In

8:06

1970, of course, you heard

8:08

of the protest on the

8:10

campus of Kent State that

8:12

erupted into gunfire after mass

8:14

unrest. As mentioned,

8:17

the Tiananmen Square protest that

8:19

threatened the Chinese Communist Party

8:21

was led by students. The

8:24

Iranian Revolution of 1979, yes,

8:27

was inspired by religious clerics,

8:29

but was given energy by

8:31

students that exploded into a

8:34

full -bone revolution. Today

8:36

we sit with a new Iran

8:38

from the one we knew in

8:41

the 1970s. College

8:44

campuses are places of great

8:46

free thought and free speech.

8:48

They generate ideas that should

8:50

establish the norm, or re

8:52

-establish and shake up the

8:54

norm. College campuses are a

8:57

place where you go to learn, to grow, to

8:59

think outside the box. But all

9:02

that can manifest. into

9:05

something much more explosive, into revolution.

9:07

And that is not necessarily a

9:09

warning. It can also be an

9:11

inspiration. Depends, of course,

9:14

on the purpose of your revolution,

9:17

what you are trying to overturn, what you

9:19

are trying to change. And

9:21

all we can hope right now is

9:23

that it's not Western civilization and the

9:26

founding of the United States of America.

9:29

Think again about the success

9:31

of young people with radical

9:33

ideas. Here's some names. Vladimir

9:37

Lenin, Leon Trotsky. This

9:40

Bolshevik Revolution in the 1910s

9:43

were youth, Marxist youth, in

9:45

Moscow, in St. Petersburg, anti

9:47

-Zarist. They led the

9:50

Bolshevik Revolution that turned over

9:52

the royalist Russia and gave

9:54

birth to the Soviet Union.

9:57

In the French Revolution, thinkers,

10:01

Robespiers, Voltairs

10:03

were part of the coursework part

10:05

of what you learned which part

10:07

of what you studied but partly

10:09

the energy as well behind Ideas

10:11

of liberty and equality and fraternity.

10:14

There's your French motto that led

10:16

to the French Revolution But don't

10:18

just heat it as warning a

10:20

failed French Revolution a Marxist revolution

10:22

that led to the Soviet Union.

10:24

It happened right here at home

10:26

as well. I mean

10:28

Alexander Hamilton was 20

10:33

James Madison was 25. Thomas

10:37

Jefferson was 33 during

10:39

the American Revolution. This

10:42

wasn't something done through your

10:44

elected leaders at the time,

10:46

your people that debate on

10:48

the halls of Parliament or

10:51

Congress. This

10:53

was led by people who were

10:55

of college age or in college.

10:57

We already had Harvard. We already

10:59

had William and Mary at the

11:02

time of the American Revolution. So

11:04

free speech free ideas radicalism doesn't

11:06

just give birth to something that

11:08

we should heed warning but gives

11:10

something that birth to something that's

11:13

inspiring Like the American Revolution So

11:15

that leads us to this What

11:17

are these young people today who

11:19

should not be dismissed or taken

11:22

lightly? pushing toward this tension on

11:24

college campuses What are they trying

11:26

to overturn? What's the

11:28

revolution? The warning,

11:31

unfortunately, is, in their own stated

11:33

words, to

11:35

overturn Western civilization. Mahmood

11:38

Khalil, the man

11:40

whose deportation hearing is still set

11:42

to be scheduled and who has

11:44

been taken into custody by ICE

11:46

officials whose green card permanent residency

11:48

status is threatened to be revoked,

11:51

who led the campus protests and

11:53

violent action at Columbia, says

11:55

in his own words that his goal

11:58

is to overturn Western civilization. We

12:04

should not take lightly what we see happening

12:06

with America's youth. It's happened

12:08

before, over and over

12:11

and over, Paris, Tehran,

12:14

Tiananmen Square, and right

12:16

here at home in America.

12:18

But we need to talk

12:20

about the ideas that are

12:23

being taught, that are being

12:25

tolerated, that are being

12:31

Fanned the flame of

12:34

these ideas Because if

12:36

it is anti -winterwestern

12:38

civilization if it is

12:40

anti -american don't laugh

12:42

It's a brewing powder

12:44

keg that we hope

12:46

does not metastasize into

12:48

a revolution Understand the

12:50

value of America's part

12:52

of understanding our tradition

12:54

understanding our place in

12:56

history is understanding tradition.

12:59

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in just a moment, Julie. But first,

15:00

good morning. How are you? Good morning.

15:02

It's so good to see you. I'm

15:05

glad to have you on the show. It's a first, and I hope

15:07

it's not a last. No. I

15:10

want to share with you this clip from

15:12

CNN that I saw yesterday. And I don't

15:14

know, Julie. I don't know what I'm supposed

15:16

to take away from this, OK? National Security

15:19

Advisor. For a moment under

15:21

the first administration of Donald Trump, John

15:23

Bolton, who is a mouthpiece, I think,

15:25

fair to say, accurate, not derisively, a

15:27

complete neocon, perhaps even more accurately, a

15:30

warhawk, he had this to say about

15:32

Defense Secretary Pete Hegson. Do

15:34

you believe Hegson should still be on the job?

15:37

No, I think he should resign

15:39

for his own safety's sake, if

15:41

nothing else. This is a critical

15:43

time for the American military. What

15:47

is he talking about for his own

15:49

safety's sake if nothing else? He

15:52

obviously isn't talking about a safety on

15:54

the front lines because that's not his

15:56

job He's not overseas. That's a threat.

15:58

That is a that's just a bold

16:00

out Like there's there's no other way

16:02

to look at it this I mean,

16:04

it's the same kind of thing that

16:06

you hear from a lot of you

16:08

know Democratic Congress women who have called

16:10

out Elon Musk for everybody to revolt

16:12

against him. They've put a bullseye on

16:14

his back, quite frankly. And now he's

16:16

doing it to Pete Hexeth, which is

16:18

absolutely lunatic. I mean, that's crazy. How

16:20

would you possibly say something like that,

16:23

like for the safety of his own,

16:25

for his own safety? So what are

16:27

you trying to say? Are you trying

16:29

to call on, you know, the bad

16:31

guys and tell them to go after

16:33

Pete Hexeth because he's now under attack?

16:35

That's very responsible. And if something happens

16:37

to Pete Hexeth, he is wholly responsible

16:39

after a comment like that. Yeah.

16:42

I mean, I like you putting into

16:44

the context of everything else being said

16:46

in the current environment and climate, um,

16:48

because it can't be divorced from that.

16:51

What would you put Hexeth? Like,

16:53

if you think about the left's

16:55

public enemies, I'm thinking at this

16:57

point that Hexeth comes in third.

17:00

Of course, Donald Trump is number

17:02

one, meaning who are you going

17:04

to hyperventilate about? Who are you

17:06

going to be the most Uncharitable

17:09

and dishonest about who gonna write headlines and

17:12

attack articles about and obviously number one is

17:14

always going to be Donald Trump number two

17:16

I think has become Elon Musk, but I

17:18

think third is Pete Hegsett I think Pete's

17:20

gonna take the number two spot because as

17:22

everyone knows I mean first of all Elon

17:25

Musk had said that he wasn't gonna be

17:27

there for the entire tenure of the president's

17:30

you know, tenure, he's going to leave at

17:32

some point. He's done his job. He's going

17:34

to continue to stay in touch with the

17:36

Doge team that he put together, which has

17:38

been brilliant. It's saved this country hundreds of

17:40

billions of dollars. But I think now they

17:42

need to find a new punching bag, right?

17:44

And so that's going to be Pete Hegstaff.

17:46

What have they done wrong exactly? I mean,

17:49

in all true respect, when it comes to

17:51

boosting morale among our military.

17:54

You know, he has actually gone overseas. He's

17:56

shaken the hands of these men and women,

17:58

these brave men and women who serve our

18:00

country. He's shown them the respect that they

18:02

deserve. A lot of our military, a lot

18:04

of people have not been enlisting into the

18:07

military because they feel like the morale is

18:09

at an all -time low. And after the

18:11

former administrations... you know,

18:13

discouraging behavior toward the military,

18:15

he's bringing back respect overseas.

18:18

And those men and women deserve it.

18:20

They appreciate it. And good for Pete

18:22

Hegseff to finally shine some light on

18:25

the heroes that are fighting for our

18:27

freedom in this country. And how dare

18:29

any proud American put Pete Hegseff down

18:32

for that? Did he make a few

18:34

mistakes by going on signal and messaging

18:36

people about... some conversations that perhaps should

18:38

not have been on signal. No, did

18:41

he give away war plans? No, did

18:43

he give, you know, proxmets? Did he

18:45

actually give, you know, pinpoints as to

18:48

where these war plans were taking place?

18:50

No. I think it's been totally

18:52

blown out of proportion, but if it wasn't

18:55

a Republican administration, you wouldn't be hearing the

18:57

mainstream media going nuts about this. Yeah,

19:00

I do think it was a mistake to

19:02

use signal you'll find no bigger defender Oh,

19:05

I'm great. I agree. I agree. I mean

19:07

he shouldn't have been texting his wife either

19:09

and and friends and I'm not part of

19:11

this we mission And

19:13

we heard from Donald Trump as recently as

19:15

yesterday in his interview with ABC saying that

19:18

he talked with Hegseth about that and they

19:20

feel good about where they are going forward

19:22

I think the point is not to paint

19:24

the the guidance of the Pentagon under Hegseth

19:26

as a hundred days of perfection But the

19:28

weight of the positive versus the negative I

19:30

think hasn't been properly weighed and you did

19:32

there as well I mean the morale of

19:35

the troops is undebatable. I hear it from

19:37

everyone still to this day. The recruiting is

19:39

up The purpose and focus

19:41

on the purpose of lethality and readiness

19:43

is is there Donald Trump often makes

19:45

the jokes ask the Houthis how Hegseth

19:48

is doing a sec death But it

19:50

doesn't mean that it has come without

19:52

its mistakes and I do wonder this

19:55

Julie because I heard it and I

19:57

think there's two one of two ways

19:59

we can go Okay, is Bolton saying

20:01

that Hegseth is being so lax on

20:04

communication chandles that it compromises his own

20:06

security. Is that what he's saying? I'm

20:09

trying to be charitable. I'm trying to

20:11

think through what he could possibly crossing

20:13

his mind Yeah, then in the alternative

20:15

is what you began to offer us,

20:18

which I think is appropriate Don't divorce

20:20

this from the kind of talk we've

20:22

heard when it comes to Musk or

20:24

Trump where you literally put bull's eyes

20:26

on people's backs and inspire violence against

20:28

them So what is he saying and

20:30

then finally coming from a guy like

20:32

Bolden who's been buried in the think

20:34

tanks and then inside the government Look

20:38

man, am I supposed to pretend like there's

20:40

not black ops? Am I supposed to pretend

20:42

like there's not you know things that are

20:44

done that we never learn about and Bolton

20:46

wouldn't be like what I'm not I'm not

20:49

gonna ignore all of that as well when

20:51

I weigh out what a weird thing to

20:53

say What are you getting at John Bolton

20:55

when you say that his life is at

20:57

risk? Yeah,

20:59

I think it's a threat. I

21:01

mean, and I don't think that

21:03

he's concerned about somebody tapping into

21:05

his social media Okay, I just

21:08

I don't think that's it or

21:10

on his text messages. I don't

21:12

believe that that's his intention I

21:14

think that what he's doing is

21:16

he's driving home a narrative that

21:18

anyone on this Trump administration Should

21:20

be targeted somehow either by force

21:23

online, the hate online is

21:25

out of control, but these are people,

21:27

these are human beings with families and

21:29

their families end up getting targeted as

21:32

well. And that is unfortunate that somebody

21:34

like John Bolton who comes from the

21:36

White House, he knows, I mean, he

21:38

has worked around these circles before and

21:40

he understands how security, national security goes.

21:43

I also have to just say this,

21:45

it's been a hundred days. Pete Seth

21:47

was never a politician. The reason he

21:49

was brought into the White House and

21:52

given this role was because he wasn't

21:54

a politician because he was a man

21:56

of the people. He was a man

21:58

of our war heroes and he has

22:00

the respect of the military. They wanted

22:03

somebody like that who could actually identify

22:05

with these military men and women. Not

22:07

a politician because politicians obviously only look

22:09

out for themselves. Donald Trump

22:11

was not a politician either. And why do

22:14

you think he's been such a huge success?

22:16

because he's not a politician. I think people

22:18

are sick and tired of politicians. They want

22:20

the man of the people in the White

22:22

House that are actually looking out for someone

22:24

other than themselves for the actual people that

22:27

they represent. And if

22:29

you want disruptors, don't get upset when there

22:31

is some disruption. That's to address some of

22:33

the stuff that's happened inside the Pentagon about

22:35

who's in, who's out. But the point of

22:38

disruption or disruptors is disruption. All

22:40

right, Julie, I don't know when you

22:42

joined the program and how long you

22:44

were there listening to me this morning,

22:47

but I Just in a monologue on

22:49

sort of the historical The historical lesson

22:51

of revolutionary young people and what's happening

22:53

on college campuses today in America. Yes,

22:55

this morning I went This morning I

22:57

went to a ceremony at my kids

23:00

school. It's called pass it on it's

23:02

a religious ceremony, but also it's a

23:04

marker of Seniors passing on their light

23:06

to incoming freshmen. I have a incoming

23:08

freshman and the eighth grader who will

23:10

be a freshman got up and gave

23:12

a speech And his speech was about

23:15

this tradition of pass it on. And

23:17

he talked about the value of tradition.

23:19

Now, I don't know if I believe

23:21

in coincidences, but I sat there and

23:23

I thought I'm about to have this

23:25

conversation today with the author of the

23:28

book, A Monumental Mistake. I read the

23:30

synopsis of your book at the top

23:32

of our show. It's a children's book

23:34

and I love it. But as much

23:36

as anything, Julie, I

23:38

just love, you know what I

23:40

love? The, the

23:43

Venn diagram overlap. of

23:45

doing something new, writing

23:47

a children's book that

23:49

reinforces an old value

23:51

of tradition. You know, we're

23:54

chock full of books about tolerance and

23:56

progress and caring and feel good. And

23:59

here we've got a really cool story

24:01

about the danger as well of ignoring

24:03

tradition and history. It

24:06

absolutely is. And I think in order

24:08

to teach your children not to ignore

24:10

tradition, not to ignore history is to

24:12

teach them to respect it. You know,

24:15

we have our freedoms in this country

24:17

thanks to others, people that came before

24:19

us. And that's where I think it

24:21

needs to start. You need to not

24:24

only respect your peers, your elders, and

24:26

those who even you disagree with. It's

24:28

fine. agree to disagree. But

24:30

respect those who came before you and

24:32

understand that that's why we are where

24:34

we are today. And I think, you

24:36

know, that's why I wrote a monumental

24:39

mistake because it really does teach children.

24:41

I think the best way parents can

24:43

teach their children, first of all, are

24:45

through stories. It is a proven fact.

24:47

There have been studies on this that

24:49

when children hear stories, they

24:51

identify with those stories and they actually

24:53

apply them to real life. So this

24:55

story is about. teaching to respect those

24:58

who came before us and to respect

25:00

one another, whether you disagree with them

25:02

or not. And it's so important, especially

25:04

now in this day and age, I

25:06

feel like this country is so divided.

25:08

It's more divided than I have ever

25:11

seen. I've never seen more hate in

25:13

this country and more political divide. Parents

25:16

who hate each other and other parents

25:18

in their community, based on politics, that's

25:20

the lessons that we're teaching our children.

25:22

And our children are listening and they're

25:24

watching. Who do you think? raised

25:27

all those people at these college protests that

25:29

are preaching hate. That's all they're doing. These

25:31

anti -Semitic protests are preaching hate. Where did

25:34

they learn that from? They learned that from

25:36

a young age, and I can promise you

25:38

my kids will never grow up and be

25:40

at protests like that, because I have taught

25:43

them to respect those that you disagree with,

25:45

to respect those in your community, to respect

25:47

elders, to respect your teachers. We don't see

25:50

that enough in this country anymore, and it's

25:52

really sad what's going to become of our

25:54

next generation if parents don't step up right

25:56

now. That's my greatest fear, and so that's

25:59

why I wrote this book, because I just

26:01

want to get it through to parents. it

26:04

through your children, because you're saving our next

26:06

generation. And I think old fashioned,

26:09

yes, ma 'am, no, ma 'am, that needs to come back.

26:11

It shouldn't be old fashioned to be respectful. That should be

26:13

something of the future. So

26:16

the story of a monumental mental

26:18

mistake is about these animal characters

26:20

who happen upon this, this statue

26:22

in the woods. And

26:24

they all have a different reaction to

26:26

it, right? Tell me about that some

26:28

market, some honor it kind of without

26:30

giving away the whole story, give me

26:33

some sense of what happens in a

26:35

monumental mistake. Well, you remember in this

26:37

country how these historical monuments were torn

26:39

down under democratic leadership, right? Because they

26:41

represented a stain in American history. So

26:43

in other words, a racing history. Well,

26:46

in this book, much like we've seen

26:48

in society, there is a monument, and

26:50

it stands for something. And it stands

26:52

for a significant moment in history, a

26:54

significant moment in the past. And a

26:56

couple of kids' characters in the book.

26:59

decide to deface the monument and they

27:01

disrespect the monument and their friends tell

27:03

them no this monument stands for something.

27:05

The monument is of a general named

27:07

General Wigamore and he fought for his

27:09

not for his country but for the

27:12

forest that they live in okay and

27:14

they deface it and a monster appears

27:16

and they are taught a very hard

27:18

lesson and I won't give it away

27:20

that teaches them that not only did

27:22

they disrespect their friends who urged them

27:25

please do not deface this monument they

27:27

were throwing rocks at it and they

27:29

didn't care and they were being disrespectful

27:31

toward their friends for ignoring them but

27:33

they were also disrespectful to the monument

27:35

and in the end they learned to

27:38

respect the history behind this monument to

27:40

respect their friends and they also learn

27:42

forgiveness because they do ask for forgiveness

27:44

and in the end they are forgiven

27:46

so not everyone's perfect Sometimes we will

27:48

be disrespectful, but I hope at least

27:51

if a child is disrespectful after reading

27:53

a book like this, they will know

27:55

that if they ask for forgiveness, they

27:57

will be forgiven. And I think that's

27:59

also something very important for parents to

28:01

teach their kids. So

28:04

I've been thinking about tradition, it

28:06

feels like, for a long time,

28:08

Julie. So I think since I

28:10

was a kid, I've had a

28:12

pretty strong Illogical

28:15

meaning it's not something that I thought

28:17

through but rather just felt reverence for

28:19

tradition. Yeah, there's something that you feel

28:22

in The way it was done before

28:24

you and the way it was done

28:26

before your parents and the way it

28:28

was done before that that's handed down

28:31

as I Got older and I think

28:33

this is this is part and parcel

28:35

of being a young person This is

28:37

why as I laid out at the

28:40

beginning the show today revolutions actually do

28:42

begin with young people positive and negative

28:44

revolutions the American revolutionaries were very young

28:46

dudes So were the Soviet revolutionaries, so

28:49

it's what what are you revolting against?

28:52

But you kind of start to then

28:54

dismiss the idea of tradition because hey,

28:56

you're fully hubris you're young you're reinventing

28:58

things and you're here to do it

29:00

better than they've done it in the

29:02

past and you can also see the

29:04

problems with tradition like Slavery is a

29:07

human practice that exists within the realm

29:09

of tradition. It has always existed It

29:11

is something that we've done from the

29:13

beginning of time and the fact that

29:15

we always did it does not give

29:17

it does not give it moral authority.

29:19

Right, but I feel like That's an

29:21

exception to the rule like instead of

29:23

seeing that and going well that that

29:25

gives we should question tradition even more.

29:27

I think it's we should analyze tradition

29:29

even more because There's something about passing

29:32

things on For thousands of years, multi

29:35

-generationally, that by its very

29:37

nature, suggests it has value.

29:39

Otherwise, it would not have

29:41

survived. If your brain goes back

29:43

to slavery, remember, there are exceptions

29:45

to every rule. But the fact that

29:47

human beings formed families, raised

29:50

kids, over millennia, suggests

29:52

it's the best societal fundamental building

29:54

block. And on and on and

29:56

on, we can look at things

29:58

that have survived humanity. That

30:01

survival is tradition, and it

30:03

gives value, the existence of

30:06

the more, the practice, the

30:08

culture that makes it a

30:11

valuable tradition. You're

30:13

absolutely right. And if you think about it

30:15

in a lot of our nation's schools, what

30:17

they're trying to do is they're looking at

30:19

stains in history, such as slavery. Okay, that

30:21

is a perfect example. And they

30:23

want to erase it. They want to

30:25

take books away that actually teach about

30:27

slavery, about Abraham Lincoln, about

30:30

civil rights movements. They want to

30:32

erase history. In order

30:34

for our youth to learn, they

30:37

need to learn about history. They need

30:39

to respect how we got here today

30:41

and the mistakes that we made and

30:43

the corrections we made to get here

30:45

today. Yes, they made

30:47

mistakes back then. And here we

30:50

are today. We've gotten so much

30:52

further. But if you will raise

30:54

history, then how are we to

30:56

learn from, like you mentioned, traditions

30:58

and history and respecting the history

31:00

that came before us and what

31:02

led us to where we are

31:04

today? And we, these children and

31:06

we as parents, are teaching the

31:08

future. And someday they're going to

31:11

be a part of history when

31:13

they grow up. And so how

31:15

do we correct? the problems and

31:17

the mistakes of the past, we

31:19

teach and we share these valuable

31:21

traditions and lessons of our past

31:23

in order to prevent it from

31:25

ever happening again. If you wipe

31:27

out history, it's gonna possibly happen

31:30

again. Right? So I don't understand

31:32

why there are so many schools

31:34

now in this country that are

31:36

so against this and they're so

31:38

woke and they're so afraid of

31:40

actually teaching children part of American

31:42

history and they want to erase

31:44

part of the past. And I

31:46

think that is why our children

31:48

don't necessarily respect history because the

31:51

school systems are taking it away.

31:54

Yeah, I think it's a combination of two

31:56

things. I just think it's hubris. Every generation

31:58

thinks it can reinvent the world in their

32:01

own image and it will always be better.

32:03

And the other is the more overt

32:05

revolution against Western civilization. And

32:08

we have an example of this

32:10

hubris, at the very least. I

32:12

wanted to point you, Julie, to

32:14

this today. The Education Department finds

32:16

University of Pennsylvania violated Title IX

32:18

over transgender swimmer. This is, of

32:20

course, about Leah Thomas, the

32:23

man swimming as a woman at

32:25

the University of Pennsylvania. won

32:29

the division one NCAA 500

32:31

yard freestyle Mediocre as a

32:33

man everyone knows the story

32:35

at this point of Leah

32:37

Thomas has made popular by

32:39

Rowley Gaines, but now the

32:41

Education Department's Office of Civil

32:43

Rights Division is saying that

32:45

Penn violated Title IX which

32:48

is I think a step

32:50

towards not just accountability, but

32:52

sanity and fairness I

32:54

mean, it's fairness. This is not,

32:56

and what really bothers me is

32:58

that the mainstream media is so

33:01

stuck in focusing on conservatives, Republicans

33:03

hating on the trans movement and

33:05

being discriminatory. That's

33:07

not what this is about. I

33:10

mean, just on Monday, I

33:12

was talking on Fox and

33:14

Friends about this trans student

33:17

here in Long Island in

33:19

Shirley, New York, 14 year

33:21

old girl, six feet tall,

33:23

competing on the women's or

33:25

the girl's track team. She

33:28

does not take hormones. She

33:30

only identifies socially as a

33:32

girl. but she's a biological

33:34

boy, and therefore she's allowed

33:36

to run on a track

33:39

team. Is that fair? Absolutely

33:41

not. I have a 15 -year

33:44

-old daughter. She's nowhere near six

33:46

feet tall. And, you know,

33:48

parents are saying, you know, this is not

33:50

about hate. It's about fairness. And

33:52

why is it that because we have to

33:54

be so woke these days that we have

33:57

to then be unfair? I can't even understand

33:59

why the two should be in the same

34:01

sentence. There is absolutely no sense of that

34:03

whatsoever. And that's where we are today. And

34:06

for parents who are at home

34:09

trying to explain to their children

34:11

what trans means, maybe try to

34:13

teach acceptance, but also teach fairness,

34:16

not the hatred that those that

34:18

don't believe that it's okay for

34:20

a female, for a

34:22

biological male to compete on a

34:24

female team, you're therefore considered a

34:26

discriminating trans, anti, gay, you

34:29

know, homophobe, that's not the message, but that's

34:31

the message that a lot of liberal parents

34:33

are teaching their kids. And then they grow

34:35

up to be those college students who are

34:38

protesting at these heinous protests. Well,

34:40

I want these office of civil rights divisions

34:43

at the DOJ and the education department to

34:45

look into more It's my belief that over

34:47

the last five or seven years we have

34:49

been blatantly Unconstitutional openly anti -western civilization by

34:52

embracing identity whether not it's race or gender

34:54

We have been anti -american and I think

34:56

there's been serious violations that need to be

34:58

investigated Whether or not that's driven out of

35:00

what we've talked about today anti -traditionalism progressivism

35:03

reinvention of the world in your own image

35:05

whatever it is it's Un -American and I

35:07

want more of this. I want some accountability

35:09

and correction Because that's the bedrock of our

35:12

tradition. I was really excited to read about

35:14

your book I think it's really cool what

35:16

you've done with brave books a minor mistake

35:18

I love stories what you talked about the

35:20

power of story totally agree and I think

35:23

even the age group you're targeting I've thought

35:25

should I write a YA book like I

35:27

got to write a book every Fox person

35:29

writes a book. I got to write a

35:32

book You need to get on the book

35:34

train. Well, I don't know what are you

35:36

waiting for? But I

35:38

like that you're using story, targeting young

35:40

people and focusing on things like tradition.

35:43

It's all about tradition, install it and just instilling

35:45

morals and values. I mean, that's really what Brave

35:47

Books is about. Oh, by the way, you can

35:49

catch the books, BraveBooks.com. And right now we have

35:51

a special that you'll get two of my free

35:54

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35:56

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35:58

club on BraveBooks.com. Awesome. A

36:01

monumental mistake by Julie

36:03

Banderas. Julie, it's great to have you

36:05

on the show again. Let's not make it the last time. Oh,

36:07

absolutely not. I'll see you soon. There

36:10

she goes. Julie Banderas. Thank you so much. Coming

36:12

up, comedian and lawyer Vince August, I think, is

36:14

going to debate us. We'll see. It was a

36:16

little bit of a debate last time. On all

36:19

this illegal immigration, maybe Kilmar or Brego Garcia, the

36:22

hyperventilating about due process. He's a lawyer.

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Spotify. Spotify. Today. What

37:39

is due process a debate with

37:41

Vince August coming up on the

37:43

Wilcane show streaming live at Fox

37:46

news comm on the Fox News

37:48

YouTube channel subscribe at Apple or

37:50

on Spotify Over to the militia

37:52

Rob Scoggins says on YouTube something's

37:54

wrong with Ivy League Colleges when

37:56

and how did this happen? We

38:00

could at least go back

38:02

I would suggest to the

38:05

1930s and 40s when radical

38:07

ideas and revolutionary thought led

38:09

every academic in the direction

38:11

of progressivism and the left.

38:13

Progressivism itself, an idea dating

38:15

back to the 1910s and

38:17

1920s, an ideology that rejects

38:19

the value of the past

38:21

and tradition. Land Party Animal

38:23

says, that's right, go to

38:25

college, get into debt, learn to

38:27

be a total S for brains.

38:30

There's a real question about the value

38:32

of college. Yes, Land. Ron

38:34

says it's Spiritual warfare Mike Oswald says

38:37

college is a place of higher learning

38:39

not protest in fair mongering if you

38:41

wish to protest do it off campus

38:43

and finally smells addicted says in response

38:46

to me saying the quad is a

38:48

powder keg Are you sure that's not

38:50

a beer keg? Touche

38:53

Ron Touche smells

38:55

addicted very nice

38:57

All right joining

38:59

us now is

39:01

comedian and attorney

39:06

Judge, judge as well. Former judge. Former

39:10

judge, so careful, Wilcane, careful,

39:12

formal judge, formal judge. Vince

39:14

August here on the Wilcane

39:16

show. What's up, Vince? How

39:19

are you, Will? It's nice to see you somewhere where

39:21

you're not going to get preempted like you do every

39:23

day at four o 'clock. What

39:26

have you been on the air for a total of 15

39:28

minutes since you started that show? Fair

39:32

warning. Uh, Donald Trump is speaking right now.

39:34

It won't be preempted here, uh, streaming on

39:37

the Fox News YouTube channel on the Fox

39:39

News Facebook page. Feel free to throw that

39:41

up just for tradition's sake to a day's

39:43

Dan. Uh, but fair warning, he will be

39:46

speaking at four o 'clock Eastern time today

39:48

as well. It's been a,

39:50

uh, soft launch, Vince. It's been a

39:52

soft launch. Uh,

39:55

there on the Wilcane show. I want

39:57

to talk to you, man, about some

39:59

of this, uh, due process. Okay. Donald

40:02

Trump yesterday sat down marking the hundredth

40:04

day of his administration with Terry Moran

40:06

at ABC News. They had quite a

40:08

back and forth. Okay. Here's

40:10

a little bit of what they talked about

40:12

when it comes to illegal immigration and due

40:14

process. The law requires that every

40:17

single person who is going to be

40:19

deported gets a hearing first. Do

40:21

you acknowledge that? I'll have to ask the lawyers

40:23

about that. All I can say is this, if

40:25

you're going to have 21 million people and we

40:27

have to get a lot of them out because

40:29

they're criminals, we're going to

40:31

have to act fast. Do you think

40:34

we can give 21 million trials? Let's

40:37

say each trial takes two weeks. Is

40:39

that what you want us to do? The

40:42

law is the law, sir. The law is

40:44

the law. The law doesn't say anything about

40:46

trials. No, not trials. Hearings. hearings. These people

40:48

came in, they're not citizens. They came in

40:50

illegally. They came into a country illegally. We

40:52

have to get them out. There's a legal

40:55

process for them. I can't assure, and we

40:57

follow the legal process. I can't have a

40:59

trial, a major trial for every person that

41:01

came in illegally. And

41:04

the interesting thing, Vince, is we're joined by

41:06

Donald Trump at his cabinet meeting. flanked

41:09

by Secretary of State Marco Rubio and

41:11

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth as we

41:13

speak live, and just for tradition's sake,

41:15

we're going to bring him there onto your screens. Maybe we'll

41:17

dip in and listen in a minute. But

41:19

the interesting thing is there is due

41:22

process. There has been due process. Outside

41:24

of those designated under the Alien Enemies

41:26

Act, designated as a foreign terrorist organization,

41:29

and by the way, when it comes

41:31

to Kilmar Brego Garcia, already had a

41:33

great amount of due process, it's

41:36

like we're pretending like they're not. Getting any

41:38

measure of due process? Well,

41:41

there's a lot there that you just said

41:43

to unpack. And, you know,

41:45

listening to test my 14th Amendment knowledge.

41:47

I mean, the one thing that we

41:49

do know is the 14th Amendment applies

41:51

to and the specific word used is

41:53

person. It's not citizen.

41:56

That's the first thing to remember, because a lot of people

41:58

like, why do these people even get

42:00

due process? Well, that's why they get due process.

42:03

The second thing is it's it's

42:06

True. It's due process. It's not

42:08

a trial. So I

42:10

think that a lot of people

42:12

don't understand what the difference is

42:14

between those. And that's

42:17

another thing. Then there's the

42:19

new wrinkle that you just

42:21

added. And you're right. There's

42:23

this new qualification or characterization

42:25

of MS -13 as a

42:27

terrorist organization. And then

42:29

you get into whether or not those

42:31

terrorist organization members have a right to

42:33

even the due process. So there's a

42:35

lot of layers there. The

42:37

only thing with the guy in

42:40

Maryland that was deported that I

42:42

think works against the administration is

42:44

whoever it was that said, we

42:46

made a mistake in deporting that

42:48

person. Well, if that's the case,

42:51

then undo the mistake. Now,

42:53

again, how far do you go to

42:55

undo that mistake? And is

42:57

it one of those things where

42:59

we can't because now we've lost

43:02

control of the mistake, which happens?

43:04

you know, other countries have their legal

43:06

rights to the people that are now

43:09

in their country. So it is a

43:11

lot of nuance here that people have

43:13

to like kind of step back and

43:15

look at and say it's a lot

43:17

of levels, a lot of layers. OK,

43:20

I want to get into some of that on our screen right now.

43:23

Kelly Laughler is speaking at the Donald Trump

43:25

Cabinet meeting in the background is Elon Musk.

43:28

Fellows, I don't know if Vince has

43:30

returned on his screen and he can see it or

43:32

fellows back in New York. Is Elon Musk double -hatting?

43:35

Does he have a Make America? I don't

43:37

know what the red hat it says. Is it on

43:39

top of a black hat? I think

43:41

Gulf of America is the hat he's wearing. I think

43:43

he's wearing it over that Make America Great Again black

43:46

hat he likes to wear a lot. So

43:48

he's got a hat on top of a hat.

43:51

Interesting. How

43:53

bad would you like to

43:56

be a billionaire for one

43:58

day and just not have

44:00

any... care it all like

44:03

that. Just one day. Two

44:06

days. Can you bring up the audio as Elon Musk

44:08

talks a little bit about his double hat? Here

44:11

we go. Vincils, listen. So,

44:13

you know, the

44:16

American people voted

44:18

for secure borders,

44:22

safe cities, and sensible spending. And

44:25

that's what they've got. A tremendous amount

44:27

has been accomplished in the first 100

44:29

days. As everyone has said, it's more

44:31

than it has been accomplished in any

44:33

administration before ever, period. So

44:36

this portends very well for what happened

44:39

for the rest of the administration. I

44:43

think this could be the greatest administration in the

44:45

country. All

44:47

right. He's now talking about, along with

44:49

Donald Trump, the first 100 days of

44:51

administration. He made some jokes about his

44:53

double hat. Yeah, I

44:55

mean the world's richest man

44:57

does not seem to take

45:00

himself too seriously, which is

45:02

kind of kind of endearing

45:04

events Or whatever that is

45:06

that he did could be

45:08

one of the best ever

45:10

by the way I Have

45:12

to go back and look

45:14

at his before and afters

45:16

on the hair trans I

45:18

find it fascinating what You

45:20

would think money would be

45:23

insurance But Matthew McConaughey has

45:25

had perhaps the greatest hair

45:27

transplant. I would put it

45:29

above, above Elon Musk. Right,

45:32

close. But for some reason, money

45:34

did not take care of LeBron

45:36

James. His has not seemed to

45:38

have taken to the same level.

45:40

So it's not simply being rich.

45:42

the Lakers did have a basketball

45:44

player who apparently found the cure

45:46

to AIDS. So I don't think

45:48

the Lakers can double dip there

45:50

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45:52

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45:55

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45:57

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with the dram. Done with

47:34

the dram. Welcome back to The Wilcane

47:36

Show. Okay, let's go back now for

47:38

a minute to talking about due process.

47:41

I want to play for you, Tim

47:43

Pool. He has a YouTube show, very

47:45

successful one. He was talking about this

47:47

concept of due process. Let's listen to

47:49

Tim Pool. Due process does

47:51

not mean a criminal trial. Well, that's what

47:53

I mean. Dude, they didn't deserve a criminal

47:56

trial, so they didn't get one. Therefore, due

47:58

process was... Yes. Followed even though

48:00

there was no process. Well, the process was just

48:02

get out. See, this is the gaslighting. And I

48:04

got to stop you. This is

48:06

the gaslighting. They say they were deported with,

48:08

you know, like under Obama, none of these

48:11

guys got deported. That's incorrect. What

48:13

process are you do? OK, as an

48:15

illegal immigrant, you get reviewed

48:18

by law enforcement. They check your IDs.

48:20

They can check the IDs and detain

48:22

any American citizen at any point. If

48:25

there's reasonable suspicion, which is incredibly easy

48:27

to get. An officer can stop you

48:29

and ask you questions. They

48:31

can ask for your ID. You don't have to give

48:33

it to them. You can say I'm being detained and

48:35

you can go. But if they have reasonable suspicion that

48:38

you're an illegal immigrant, they can escalate a little bit.

48:41

All right, so he begins the process there of what

48:44

you talked about. Let's start with

48:46

the 14th Amendment. Okay, every person is

48:48

due due due due process. Due process

48:50

is not a one size fits all

48:52

cracker jack box price. It's different for

48:55

everyone. An American citizen gets more due

48:57

process. An illegal immigrant gets

48:59

less due process. And as you talked about,

49:01

and what does that mean? Full -blown criminal

49:03

trial? I do believe that's sort of what's

49:06

being, like, gaslighted or led to believe much

49:08

of the American population. Terry Moran

49:10

says to Donald Trump, no, no, no, a

49:12

hearing, okay? Then you have the third component,

49:14

which you talked about, the Introduction of the

49:17

Alien Enemies Act for anyone who's a Trende

49:19

Aragua or MS -13 member. Less and less

49:21

and less due process owed to that person

49:23

every step of the way. And from what

49:25

we've seen, Everyone, including

49:28

Kilmar Brego Garcia, got some level of the

49:30

process along the way, somewhere. They had a

49:32

hearing. They were deemed an illegal immigrant. I

49:34

agree with you about the mistake. I don't

49:36

know what to make of the quote -unquote

49:38

mistake. But just letting everyone

49:40

at home know the facts of what

49:43

is due process, how does it apply

49:45

differently to different people, and everyone got

49:47

some measure of due process changes the

49:50

narrative being sold to you about what's

49:52

happening under the administration. It

49:55

does and listen, I'm not the

49:57

right guy to start quoting the

49:59

Davis decision from 2001 because it's

50:01

not like I just read it.

50:04

I'm familiar with it. I think

50:06

where it gets messy is the

50:08

incarceration period and the holding period

50:11

because from what I understand and

50:13

I'm sure your viewers can test

50:15

me on this and you can

50:18

too. I think there's a 90

50:20

day maximum. that you

50:22

can detain somebody and that's where

50:24

this whole thing gets messy from

50:26

administration to administration because you have

50:28

one administration that calls process handing

50:31

someone paperwork and sending them on

50:33

their way and doing nothing then

50:35

you have another administration that says

50:37

well we're going to hold you

50:39

in Gitmo or we're going to

50:41

deport you or we're going to

50:43

do or we're going to hold

50:45

you indefinitely and and again the

50:47

problem here will is when you

50:50

start doing this by executive orders.

50:52

And you don't have people that

50:54

just come down and write laws.

50:56

And right now you have Trump

50:59

where he does, you have the

51:01

House, you have the Senate with

51:03

slight majorities. I don't understand

51:05

why someone is not just putting

51:07

something on the floor like we

51:09

saw with the last administration. Look,

51:12

is it going to be bipartisan? No, it's

51:14

going to be perfect. No, but at least

51:17

codify the process part of it. That shouldn't

51:19

be that. Well, but I think there's an

51:21

answer. Here's the answer. Vince, by the way,

51:23

I'm not familiar with the Davis opinion. I

51:26

can't push back nor nor endorse what you

51:28

had to say. I do know that in

51:30

1996, I believe President Bill Clinton signed a

51:32

bill that that laid out this what we've

51:35

what we've talked about this diminishing level of

51:37

due process, depending upon your status in this

51:39

country. And so that some

51:41

of that is codified and was under

51:43

a Democrat president. My suspicion is this,

51:46

a. You have administration that is

51:48

focused on action, not waiting. We've

51:50

waited long enough. We're going to

51:52

get stuff done. B, the

51:55

courts will have their say. The

51:57

Supreme Court of the United States

51:59

will weigh in. A lot of

52:01

these things will be litigated. The

52:03

Supreme Court will have their say

52:05

on due process. C,

52:08

a lot of this is inside the executive branch.

52:10

So there is levels of interpretation for enforcement when

52:13

it comes to the executive, even in the face

52:15

of a Supreme Court opinion. D,

52:18

I think we will see some of this when

52:21

it comes to the quote -unquote big beautiful bill.

52:23

And the reason that they're not piecemealing it out,

52:25

Vince, is because you know as well as I

52:27

do the nature of politics. Like once you do

52:29

an immigration bill, then the

52:31

problem is Republicans are all, you're

52:33

right, they have House, they have

52:36

Senate. Where do they go

52:38

fall apart? It isn't on immigration. They

52:40

fall apart on budget. Budget

52:43

is where they fall apart. They all have different

52:45

views on deficit and so forth. How do you

52:47

keep them together? By making them,

52:49

making it be packaged with something where

52:51

they are all together, immigration. So

52:54

if you do immigration quick and get it out of

52:56

the way, the problem is, are you ever going to

52:58

get a budget? And we haven't had a budget and

53:00

I don't know how many years. We're

53:02

continuing resolution and so forth. We

53:05

got to get this fiscal thing

53:07

on track. But sticking

53:09

with the immigration and here's where I

53:11

tend and listen, I'm a lawyer where

53:14

I tend to be. and

53:16

letting the Supreme Court basically make laws

53:19

where Congress doesn't do anything. And we've

53:21

seen it. We've seen it with abortion

53:23

rights. We've seen it with a lot

53:25

of, you know, gay marriage. We've seen

53:27

it with all of these things is

53:29

that, well, you say, okay, well, they're

53:31

going to rule on this thing and

53:33

we're going to have a new law.

53:35

I don't want a country where the

53:38

judicial branch is acting where Congress is

53:40

not because, yeah, when the court is

53:42

kind of. you know conservative in your

53:44

favor you're like god this is cool

53:46

then it goes the other way and

53:48

all a sudden so what happens is

53:50

it's never up to voters it becomes

53:52

up to judges depending on the cycle

53:55

of the court that you're in and

53:57

that's not the way the country is

53:59

built that's not the way it was

54:01

ever supposed to be built and as

54:03

someone who does like the way the

54:05

country was founded that does like the

54:07

different branches you know i the danger

54:09

here is that congress runs on these

54:12

issues They raise money on these issues

54:14

and they never act on the issues.

54:17

So, you know, yeah. And it's the

54:19

president is always forcing the hand. So

54:21

what you do is one administration, open

54:24

borders, go wild. 20 million people here.

54:26

They're never going to hear all these

54:28

cases. You handcuffed the other

54:31

administration into the only thing Trump

54:33

can do, which is look, you

54:35

want me to, you know, see,

54:37

seal the border. Here's what I

54:39

have to do to seal it.

54:41

Now, the one thing we have

54:43

seen. No one's trying to even

54:45

a cross will. So the effect

54:47

of his policy has stopped that.

54:49

Okay. So now we got to

54:51

get to that other part that

54:53

you're talking about, which is this

54:56

process part. And what is it?

54:58

It's no way you're going to

55:00

have 10 million hearings. Forget about

55:02

trials. 10 million hearings

55:04

in four years. It's

55:06

not going to happen. God

55:08

just shows how bad. what happened over

55:10

the last four years was, it really

55:13

does. Like you just let

55:15

all these people in and you can't do

55:17

anything about it unless you have a president

55:19

that acts. And I think that puts us

55:21

back on the the issue because I hear

55:23

you, I don't want laws made by judges

55:25

in the face of laws made by Congress.

55:27

I also don't want an executive that can't

55:29

act because of judges. And we're seeing a

55:31

lot of that right now. I don't believe

55:33

that district judges should have the power for

55:35

nationwide injunctions. I want the Supreme Court to

55:37

hear that right away. You control your district,

55:39

your region. You don't control the nation. I

55:42

don't think the founders had any idea that

55:44

300 and some odd district judges would have

55:46

equal power to the president. No one thought

55:49

that. And so I want the

55:51

executive to be able to do what he's

55:53

been elected by the people to do. And

55:56

listen, no one saw and I

55:58

don't think even when you had

56:00

immigration problems. I mean, what were

56:03

immigration problems? As an Italian born

56:05

of immigrants, you know, we saw

56:07

the immigration problem in Italian neighborhoods

56:10

in Brooklyn and the Bronx and

56:12

you literally had people getting onto

56:14

ships and jumping off the ship,

56:17

jumping off of ships. But that

56:19

was something that was more controllable.

56:21

You can count it when you

56:24

literally have caravans of hundreds of

56:26

thousands of people and the government

56:28

does nothing. and you overwhelm the

56:31

government, you overwhelm the courts.

56:34

Well, the only thing you can

56:36

do is what this president did.

56:39

Now, whether or not it's

56:41

legally right, whether it's, you

56:43

know, you want to get into moral ethics

56:45

to me, it's just about whether it's legally

56:47

right, whether it's legally right or not, you

56:50

know, and you're going to battle

56:52

that in the courts. Well, then

56:54

what you're going to do is

56:56

you're going to still hold up

56:58

10 million people. So fighting this

57:00

thing in the courts is not

57:03

going to speed up that process

57:05

And the main thing is though

57:07

what we can agree on is

57:09

I hope we can like We're

57:11

actually talking about the issue at

57:13

hand. So this hyperventilation about Donald

57:15

Trump is an authoritarian dictator who's

57:17

scooping up American citizens and absconding

57:19

them off to foreign gulags. It's

57:21

just like it's just It's nonsense

57:24

It's complete nonsense. And Obama

57:26

had kids in cages. So

57:28

look, we could do this

57:30

with every president along the

57:32

way, whether it's, you know,

57:34

bombing Syria, putting kids

57:36

in cages, the deporter in chief

57:38

as Obama was called, we could

57:40

go back to Clinton and what

57:42

he said with regards to immigration,

57:44

where if you took that speech,

57:46

copy and pasted it and showed

57:48

it to 350 million Americans and

57:50

said, who was the president that

57:52

said this? You know, everybody on

57:54

the left would say Trump and

57:56

you'd be like, no, wrong, Clinton.

57:59

So let's forget about that and

58:01

somehow some way codify this thing.

58:03

Now, again, if you want to

58:05

leave that to the Supreme Court,

58:07

we'll guess what's going to happen.

58:09

It could get overturned. God knows

58:11

when. But if these people

58:13

actually sit down and write laws, which

58:15

none of them want to do because

58:17

they want to campaign on it, then

58:19

what are you left with here other

58:22

than what the president's done, which is,

58:24

look, these terrorist organizations, we gotta

58:26

outlaw them, we gotta ban them, you lose

58:28

rights. And you know what

58:30

happens in that process? Well, you're

58:33

gonna have mistakes. It's

58:35

just part of the nature of the beast.

58:37

You're gonna have, look, you have them both

58:39

ways. So like the people that came over

58:41

the border that didn't get any due process.

58:44

See, nobody wants to talk about that. Nobody

58:46

wants to talk about the guideways. No one

58:48

knows anything about. But they

58:50

want to hang their hand on this

58:52

one guy from Maryland, because you could

58:54

put a face to it and say,

58:57

look, here's our current poster person that

58:59

we're going to run with. Even

59:03

presuming for a moment that it's true that

59:05

it was a mistake, one mistake versus 20

59:07

million mistakes. By the way, on one last

59:09

illness, here's Ilan Omar. If

59:12

they thought the first 100 days

59:14

of chaos would break us, they

59:16

were wrong. Because across this

59:19

country, millions of us are standing

59:21

up for our human rights and

59:23

our democracy. Judges are

59:26

fighting back to block these

59:28

unconstitutional executive orders. Here

59:30

in Congress, we are

59:33

fighting back every single day.

59:35

We are fighting to protect

59:37

immigrant families from mass detention

59:39

and deportation. We are

59:41

fighting to prevent horrific cuts

59:43

to Medicaid, SNAP, and

59:46

Social Security. It

59:48

won't be easy, but we

59:50

must continue to organize to

59:52

speak out and to build

59:54

a future that reflects our

59:56

highest ideals You know Vince

59:58

there's one more thing that

1:00:00

we should point out that

1:00:02

you did I think so

1:00:04

far in the first hundred

1:00:06

days one roughly 160 ,000

1:00:08

people have been deported 5

1:00:10

.3 million people were deported

1:00:12

under President Obama I Mean

1:00:14

well, this is the thing

1:00:16

and you know I love

1:00:18

this hundred day thing because

1:00:20

it's such a take on

1:00:22

the way we are today

1:00:24

with this, you know, the

1:00:26

immediate reaction, immediate

1:00:28

response of social media and

1:00:30

like buttons and things that

1:00:32

we've reduced the presidency. So

1:00:35

what have you done in your

1:00:37

first hundred days? Yeah, but

1:00:39

the answer is a lot. But the

1:00:41

answer is a lot. Even still judge

1:00:44

a marriage. in the first hundred days,

1:00:46

and then come see me in year

1:00:48

two, ask me how that first hundred

1:00:50

days was, according to the second year

1:00:52

of that marriage. How you doing now?

1:00:54

How's that bliss from that first hundred

1:00:56

days? Look, man, you

1:00:59

can't, this immediate gratification,

1:01:01

this immediate response thing,

1:01:04

I hate it. And everyone just, you

1:01:06

know, it's so funny because, look, and

1:01:08

both sides do it, you know, the

1:01:11

tragedy of Biden, the tragedy of

1:01:14

Trump. And it's like, rather than

1:01:16

look at what we want to

1:01:18

say hasn't been done, hasn't been

1:01:21

fixed. Let's look at what has

1:01:23

been done and the effect of

1:01:26

it. But nobody wants

1:01:28

to do that because, again, the

1:01:30

way this thing is attacked is

1:01:32

we're going to pick this person

1:01:34

from Maryland. Ah, there was

1:01:37

a mistake. Let's hang our hat on this

1:01:39

guy. And see, you don't know how to

1:01:41

deport people. And here's what's going to happen

1:01:43

to everybody. And then it

1:01:45

becomes amplified when Trump does that thing

1:01:47

will that neither one of us can

1:01:49

defend. I'm sorry, where he says, you

1:01:51

know what, maybe we'll deport citizens to

1:01:53

who cares. And it's like, dude, don't

1:01:55

make it stop. Don't do

1:01:58

that. No one can defend

1:02:00

that. And you make the

1:02:02

mistake amplified. So. You

1:02:04

know, again, somebody's got to

1:02:06

sit down. When I say sit down, I don't

1:02:09

mean on the steps of the capital. You

1:02:11

know, don't sit on the steps. That's what I

1:02:14

mean. I almost feel

1:02:16

like he does it as catnip

1:02:18

for them to go chase the

1:02:20

shiny. Chase that. I'm going to

1:02:23

deport American citizens. Chase Trump, 2028.

1:02:25

Chase these things that are meaningless

1:02:27

while we get real stuff done

1:02:29

here in America. There's

1:02:32

a little bit of context nuance and truth when

1:02:35

it comes to due process and illegal immigration with

1:02:37

a former judge and a comedian Vince August Vince

1:02:39

always love having you on the show. Thank you

1:02:41

so much. Hey brother. Thank you. All right. Take

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care check him out on X Vince August Robert

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