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style. age of rage and

2:02

the rise of assassination culture.

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Two, AOC and John Federman

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also might be killing ourselves

3:18

off. Elon Musk has sounded the warning

3:20

and I have some stunning stats to

3:23

share with you on not just

3:25

a decline of American civilization but

3:27

the decline of humanity. in

3:29

many ways, as we see, not

3:32

fear of over a population,

3:34

but the fear of

3:36

declining birth rates. We're

3:39

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3:41

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first we've got to

3:48

take a minute to announce

3:50

for you the winner of

3:52

the Will Kane Show

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March Madness bracket. successfully

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winning the friendship. of

4:00

the Will Kane

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show fantasy football

4:04

league hoisting the

4:07

trophy above his

4:09

head in a shocking

4:11

turn of events

4:13

back-to-back championships. The

4:16

winner of the

4:18

Will Kane show

4:21

March Madness. Come

4:23

on. Where are you

4:25

clapping? We're supposed to

4:28

clap. I don't know, three seconds there.

4:30

I think it's rigged. It was rigged

4:32

from the start. I don't know. To

4:34

make Will win, yeah, totally. I mean,

4:36

like, the guy didn't even pick up

4:38

the ball, right there. It was a

4:40

crazy idea. Oh. That's the worst ending

4:43

for Houston since one of those space

4:45

movies. I thought you were suggesting that somehow

4:47

behind the scenes, there were

4:49

some machinations in the algorithm

4:51

at the ESP and March

4:53

Madness bracket to make sure

4:55

that I could win or

4:57

whoever put our league together.

4:59

could manipulate the point standings

5:01

to make sure that I

5:03

continue continue let's emphasize continue

5:05

continue to win all of

5:07

our competitions but what you're

5:09

actually suggesting is the

5:12

University of Houston was in on

5:14

it to help me win the

5:16

Wilkencholee. I mean Texas culture

5:18

man you guys stay together. There's

5:21

a lot of money in sports

5:23

over there. A lot of money.

5:25

pool of money for the Will

5:27

Kane show fantasy football

5:29

and March Madness bracket,

5:31

which amounted to a total

5:33

of $0.1. It was nothing but

5:36

a pride bracket, but that was

5:38

enough for Calvin Sampson to

5:40

say to Manuel Sharpe, do not

5:42

get a shot off in the

5:44

last two minutes of the

5:46

game. And Sharpe said, for who?

5:49

And Sampson said, Will Kane. And

5:51

the Sharpe goes. My dog. Oh

5:53

man. How does it feel? Seriously?

5:55

Like just, if you picked one

5:57

word, if I just said what?

6:00

One word, how does it feel

6:02

to go through the world? I'm

6:04

thinking everything is rigged, ten foil.

6:06

It's not fun, yeah. It's very

6:08

depressing. Sounds like it, geez, my

6:10

God. You should probably just like-

6:13

I don't know. You know, this

6:15

population thing, we should just quit.

6:17

It's all bad. It's just rigged,

6:19

all of it. Birth rates. March

6:21

madness. Has it feel to win

6:23

so much, Will. just all the

6:26

time ratings brackets fantasy yeah just

6:28

feels great yeah I brought the

6:30

ratings you're riding the high friends

6:32

with the leaders of the free

6:34

world yeah it feels good to

6:36

beat you guys I'll tell you

6:39

that I don't know about winning

6:41

it's maybe maybe that's the lesson

6:43

of of you know there's a

6:45

couple different stories when it comes

6:47

to winning you know I always

6:49

fall back on what Troyakman and

6:52

Bill Parcels have said about winning

6:54

versus failing that failing hurts way

6:56

more than winning feels good and

6:58

that you therefore are driven forward

7:00

by the avoidance of failure not

7:02

not debilitatingly not not so much

7:05

that you don't throw your hat

7:07

in the arena but that you

7:09

compete to avoid the awful feeling

7:11

of failing and then there's sort

7:13

of the Gordon Gecko Wall Street

7:15

mentality of winning like it only

7:18

feels good if I can identify

7:20

the loser into so that I

7:22

can see you guys like winning's

7:24

a zero-sum game I need to

7:26

see who lost and to see

7:28

like Patrick's face right now that

7:31

feels pretty good you know like

7:33

more than last night like when

7:35

Florida won last night I was

7:37

like huh okay but to see

7:39

Adam Clots on Instagram having to

7:41

to post his humble pie video

7:44

which by the way I think

7:46

he was crying could have been

7:48

it's cold in New York and

7:50

those were sort of cold weather

7:52

tears And to see

7:55

tin foils, just like droopy

7:57

dog look this morning, you

7:59

know, it's just... That's the

8:01

spice of life. Glass is

8:03

steaming up for me with

8:05

with tears there those tears.

8:07

I see wait can I

8:09

just say something you wish

8:11

you wish I don't care.

8:13

There's no there's no point

8:15

in sports anymore. It's all

8:17

Nothing matters. It really doesn't

8:19

Rrrr Yes, James. So you've

8:21

just won the back-to-back fantasy

8:23

championships amongst friends and now

8:25

we're I'm going to compare

8:27

ourselves to Bill Parcels, Troy

8:29

Aikman, and Gordon Gecko. I

8:31

think present company, I am

8:33

Gordon Gecko, meets, Troy Aikman

8:35

meets Bill Parcels. I don't

8:37

know who you guys are.

8:39

I feel less than. Sure.

8:41

Tom Brady before the rain.

8:43

Two days in ten foil

8:45

were way down. Yeah, you

8:47

have to scroll. We don't

8:49

need to talk. I was

8:51

this close. We don't need

8:53

to talk about that. I

8:55

was this close. Take your

8:57

win and don't, you know,

8:59

make me feel bad. I'll

9:01

be back. All right, so

9:03

there it is hoist the

9:06

trophy. Put another one on

9:08

the shelf. Championships keep coming

9:10

in here at the Will

9:12

Kane show. All right, let's

9:14

get to it with story

9:16

number one. across the country

9:18

continue to rage about Elon

9:20

Musk and Donald Trump. I

9:22

read to you now a

9:24

verbat from an interview of

9:26

a protester with a reporter

9:28

this past weekend. Reporter, do

9:30

you wish that guy never

9:32

missed? Speaking of one of

9:34

the would-be assassins of President

9:36

Donald Trump. Protester, yes, three

9:38

inches. Whoever thought I would

9:40

have thought I would have been

9:42

so excited about getting an additional

9:44

three inches. But I really was

9:47

hoping... I would have really submitted

9:49

the idea. I really regret he

9:51

wasn't on target reporter. Do you

9:53

think the attempt will happen? Protestor.

9:56

I sure hope so. Here, watch

9:58

and listen for yourself. And tell

10:00

us what you mean by this.

10:02

Well, I mean that it won't

10:05

fix all the problems, but it

10:07

sure is a great start. That

10:09

liberation day should not be, should

10:11

not be connected to what he

10:14

has done. That is not liberation.

10:16

And I just hope for this

10:18

country that we can rise above

10:20

this and the good way to

10:23

start might be to have somebody

10:25

leave. So, you know, we can

10:27

all hope. Do you

10:29

wish that that guy never missed?

10:32

Yes, three inches. Who would have

10:34

ever thought that I would

10:36

be so excited about, you

10:38

know, getting an additional three

10:40

inches? There you go, as a woman.

10:43

I'd say 60 years old,

10:45

gray-haired. Wearing a shirt says, I

10:47

hope he dies. Holding a sign

10:49

wishing death on Donald Trump.

10:52

It's not just an anecdote. It's

10:54

not just a story. According to

10:56

the Network Contagion Research Institute, a

10:59

growing number of people are willing

11:01

to justify and even applaud killing

11:04

in the name of politics in a

11:06

warped sense of social justice. The study

11:08

found 55% of self-identified left-of-center

11:10

participants justified Trump's assassination to

11:12

some degree, while 48% did

11:15

the same for Elon Musk.

11:17

If you dive in a little deeper,

11:19

it gets pretty fascinating. Justifying

11:23

the murder of Elon Musk,

11:25

31.6% of all respondents

11:28

would justify the murder

11:30

of Musk. As just stated,

11:33

almost 49% of those left

11:35

of center would do so. On

11:37

Donald Trump, 38.5 of all

11:40

respondents would justify

11:42

the murder of Donald

11:44

Trump. 55% from left

11:46

of center justify the

11:49

murder of Trump. This

11:51

is a really dangerous

11:54

trend in America.

11:56

It makes me wonder.

12:00

How much of an outlier is it?

12:02

This moment and this country. We

12:04

did go back and ask and

12:06

look into what was culture like

12:08

in the 1950s and 1960s. Of

12:11

course, you had an assassination culture

12:13

back then with both the assassination

12:15

of John F. Kennedy, M. L.

12:17

K. and RFK. But those were

12:19

seen as national tragedies across the

12:22

political spectrum. It wasn't embraced. It

12:24

wasn't justified. You didn't see a

12:26

significant, significant percentage of the American

12:28

people wishing death. on these individuals.

12:30

I can't speak to the way

12:33

that the French polity feels about

12:35

Emmanuel Macron. I can't speak to

12:37

the way that Russians feel about

12:39

Vladimir Putin. But I can say

12:41

that historically when we go back

12:43

in time it's more reminiscent of

12:46

a day and age in France

12:48

in the late 1700s. The French

12:50

Revolution was absolutely engulfed in this

12:52

type of rage. Elites led to

12:54

the gallows. the guillotine, blood ran

12:57

in the streets. We talked yesterday

12:59

about that rise and fall of

13:01

empires that on the decline during

13:03

the dissent you have civil unrest,

13:05

you have hatred and you potentially

13:08

have violence. That's certainly what it

13:10

feels like today in America. But

13:12

I think there's something else that

13:14

I take away from this and

13:16

that is not just the 55%

13:18

of those on the left that

13:21

want to see the death of

13:23

Donald Trump, but the 38% of

13:25

all respondents. COVID was a fascinating

13:27

moment for us, when for me

13:29

it peeled back the curtains on

13:32

what really drives us. We talk

13:34

a good game about embrace of

13:36

freedom. We talk a good game

13:38

about the protection of our republic.

13:40

But all it took was a

13:43

little bit of fear. And we

13:45

abandoned everything at the altar of

13:47

self-preservation. Everything we was revealed about

13:49

our neighbor, about our friends, about

13:51

some of our family. Put on

13:54

your mask. Stay home. Stay home.

13:56

Get six feet away. a little

13:58

bit of fear and we revealed

14:00

that one of the biggest motivations

14:02

in humanity is not greed or

14:04

ambition or freedom, but fear. And

14:07

I have to wonder like all

14:09

these trappings of our civilization, you

14:11

know, who we are as a

14:13

people, our constitution, our democracy, if

14:15

they're not just papering over these

14:18

base human level motivations. And that's

14:20

what civilization is, is to pull

14:22

us away from who we are

14:24

at our base. But I also

14:26

think what we reveal is just

14:29

how absolutely fragile it all is.

14:31

If a good 38% of all

14:33

of us are ready to see

14:35

the death of our political rival,

14:37

and I think it is particularly

14:39

acute on the left, in the

14:42

echo chambers of where they live,

14:44

that creates a sense of moral

14:46

certainty and moral superiority that anyone

14:48

else that believes differently is worthy

14:50

of nothing but assassination. I think

14:53

there's also a fascinating study out

14:55

that shows... The death

14:57

of humanity may be

14:59

a self-inflicted wound. This

15:01

is from Professor Peter

15:03

Saint-age, a frequent guest

15:05

of the Will Kane

15:07

show, a friend of

15:09

the show. Listen to

15:11

these stats. In Japan,

15:13

on average, four grandparents

15:15

yield a single grandchild.

15:17

Four grandparents, one grandchild.

15:19

In Korea, 100 Koreans

15:21

will become just eight.

15:23

great-grandchildren. That is the

15:25

decline, the death of

15:27

a civilization. China is

15:29

on track to lose

15:31

600 million people in

15:33

a single lifetime. That

15:35

is five times the

15:37

population, total population, of

15:39

Japan. And by the

15:41

way, Europe, down the

15:43

same path is for

15:45

fertility rates of native-born

15:47

Europeans, are about 1.3.

15:49

That means you lose

15:51

a third of your

15:53

people every generation. Wonder

15:55

what United States is?

15:57

1.5 children per couple.

16:00

These are stunning statistics

16:03

that suggest our real issue

16:05

isn't overpopulation.

16:07

Our real issue is declining

16:09

to replace ourselves. Now,

16:11

this came up in our morning

16:14

call too, and I said, isn't

16:16

there an issue, you

16:18

know, about overpopulation? Well,

16:20

people isn't as good for

16:22

access to resources. People

16:24

have been... Screaming

16:27

the skies and reading their hands

16:29

about the problems of overpopulation for

16:32

well over 250 years. I tell this

16:34

story all the time because it's one of

16:36

my favorites. You've probably heard at

16:38

some point the idea of someone

16:40

being described as a malthusian.

16:42

Oh, that's a malthusian idea. You

16:45

are a malthusian. What does that mean?

16:47

Well, it goes back to a scientist from

16:49

the early 1800s Thomas Malthus,

16:51

who predicted the decline of

16:54

civilization on earth because of

16:56

overpopulation. He predicted that overpopulation

16:58

would mean limitation of resources,

17:01

a struggle over resources, and

17:03

ultimately mass starvation and

17:05

declining populations. Now, if you just

17:07

kind of did the math like

17:09

Malthus did, with here's our available

17:12

food sources, here's the rate of

17:14

population growth, here's the number of

17:16

people on the earth right now, he

17:18

wasn't wrong in his calculations. But what

17:20

Malthus was incapable of doing was seeing

17:23

what would change in the next 200

17:25

years. In short, he was incapable of

17:27

seeing innovation. Specifically, that innovation

17:29

came along like this. First,

17:31

they discovered fertilizer in the

17:33

form of bat guano, bat poop, islands

17:36

of bat poop, that they figured out, helped

17:38

crops grow bigger, stronger, more easily.

17:40

All of a sudden, food sources exploded,

17:43

population exploded. Then came,

17:45

which Malthus couldn't see,

17:47

the Industrial Revolution. the tractor,

17:49

which replaced the horse, the plow

17:52

horse, the beast of burden. Because

17:54

those animals were eating up something

17:56

like half the world's food sources.

17:59

Now that's... same land, those

18:01

same crops could be devoted

18:03

to human population. And population

18:05

exploded once again. And then

18:07

in the 1900s, Malthus couldn't

18:10

see and didn't predict genetic

18:12

modification of food. How all

18:14

of a sudden from 100-year

18:16

span we went from wheat

18:18

stocks two feet tall to

18:20

wheat stocks six feet tall.

18:23

And a mass explosion of

18:25

available food sources again and

18:27

yet more explosion in population

18:29

in population. Because what you've

18:31

learned is. The thing that

18:34

pushes humanity forward isn't wheat.

18:36

It isn't food stocks. It's

18:38

ideas. Because ideas drive innovation.

18:40

And in order to continue

18:42

to have a wealth of

18:44

ideas, you need an expansion

18:47

of people. You need new

18:49

people who have new ideas.

18:51

And that exchange is what

18:53

allows us to continue to

18:55

flourish. If we're not having

18:58

sex, if we're not fertile,

19:00

if we're not having babies,

19:02

yeah, of course we're going

19:04

to have societies on an

19:06

individual scale, fall. You'll have

19:08

populations exploding in Africa and

19:11

across the equator, Central America,

19:13

those populations will flood into

19:15

your civilization. They'll change the

19:17

nature of your civilization. But

19:19

over time, you also see

19:22

just people, fewer of us.

19:24

There's less flourishing. We may all want

19:26

to kill each other, but we might

19:29

just be killing ourselves right now in

19:31

real time Let's talk about this plus

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They just created a dire wolf You

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just made a dire wolf Maybe this

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19:43

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21:44

you can make a mammoth, can you

21:46

make a dinosaur? If you can

21:48

make a dinosaur, what would you be

21:51

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22:01

is a comedian. He's a - a fellow at

22:03

the Heritage Foundation. He's the CEO of the Veebs app as well, and

22:05

you can find him on exit. Ten runs his mouth. And

22:08

this is his first time here on the

22:10

Will Kane show. What's up, Tim? Thanks for

22:12

having me. Well, I got to ask

22:14

you because I actually watched the show,

22:16

unlike your other guests. I'm very respectful.

22:19

How many Pearl Snap shirts do you

22:21

have in your collection? Because you've got

22:23

a hell of a collection of Pearl

22:25

Snaps. Okay. and you're like okay I'm

22:27

gonna comment on the first segment and

22:30

then say I watched the show will

22:32

and kind of play that game and

22:34

then you did that and I was

22:36

like oh shoot he may actually watch

22:38

some of the show because that's a

22:41

callback multiple episodes in the making and

22:43

the answer to him is I have a lot I

22:45

have a lot yeah well I have my

22:47

own collection till I got fat oh

22:49

really I'm waiting. They're waiting for me to

22:51

start where... Now listen, you bring me on,

22:54

Will, and I love your show. It's like

22:56

the end of the world is coming. Now

22:58

here's comedian Tim Young. Elon

23:00

Musk is worried about it too, Tim.

23:02

I mean, this is a thing like, if we're not

23:04

having babies, it's Elon Musk and

23:07

it's Rachel Campos Duffy. This is

23:09

both of their favorite subjects.

23:11

Which, by the way, both of them have

23:13

a lot of babies? She's got a lot of

23:15

babies? Yeah, right. Right. So it

23:18

could just be a superiority complex

23:20

by them both. But you do. You

23:22

gotta have babies. You gotta have

23:24

a civilization. I feel guilty.

23:26

I only have two. Two's not enough to

23:28

him. Get on it, Will. What are

23:30

you doing? Like, what are you doing right

23:33

now? You're doing a podcast.

23:35

You could be making a baby right

23:37

now. I'm too old. I guess not.

23:39

Musk is still, Musk is still having

23:41

babies. You know. What is that?

23:44

What is it? When should a man stop

23:46

having babies? Like, when is that? I mean,

23:48

like, you know, there's rich guys. They're

23:50

having babies in 60s and 70s,

23:52

right? Like, some of these billionaires,

23:54

they're still have babies. If you

23:56

can afford it, why not make some

23:58

more, you know, rich spoil... children when

24:01

you're 80 and you're a billionaire.

24:03

I am at, I'm at 44

24:05

and I don't have any yet

24:07

because I haven't met a woman

24:09

that I didn't think I would

24:11

divorce until recently. So that's kind

24:13

of, that's where I am. Look,

24:15

I'm all about having that nuclear

24:17

family and having a real like

24:19

partnership moving forward before I have

24:21

children. And I know that I made a lot

24:23

of big mistakes. You made a lot

24:25

of big mistakes in what? Dating. Especially

24:28

in politics, I spent, I've been in

24:30

politics now for 23 years, and you

24:32

know this, the New York, DC, LA,

24:35

there aren't a lot of quality human

24:37

beings with a quality set of morals

24:39

and values to choose from, and it's

24:42

getting worse and worse. The herd's getting

24:44

thinner there of quality people, and so

24:46

finding that right person who would be

24:49

like equally as responsible to have a

24:51

family and care and raise a real

24:53

respectable member of society is getting hard

24:56

to find. Wait, I want

24:58

to talk about this for

25:00

a minute. We have other

25:02

topics we have scheduled

25:04

to talk about so I've been

25:07

out of the game here Tim

25:09

for a while I've been married

25:11

I Can do this, but I've

25:13

been married more than 20

25:15

years And so I checked out

25:17

of the game pre dating apps

25:20

pre dating websites

25:22

pre Instagram pre all

25:24

of this, okay? Now, you're single.

25:27

No, I've been told. Oh,

25:29

you're not single. You're just

25:31

not, you don't have kids. I'm

25:33

sorry. Yeah. What are you married?

25:35

About to be. You're about to

25:37

be. Congratulations, man.

25:39

Thanks. But you were dating in

25:42

that environment. And I've been

25:44

told by friends who

25:46

have honestly gotten divorced

25:48

that when you enter that world

25:51

as a guy, you're actually a

25:53

pretty hot commodity. Like. Men who

25:55

are have some level of

25:57

success who have some capability

26:00

capability of making a living,

26:02

all that. You find yourself in that

26:04

environment and I'm

26:06

not saying that there's a ton of fish in

26:08

the sea or whatever, but

26:10

it's actually made it pretty good for meeting

26:12

other people. Yeah, it's

26:14

pretty easy. It's like shooting fish in a barrel,

26:16

especially on that, what's the app? Bumbleware, where women,

26:18

and look, I'm not saying I'm like a good

26:20

looking guy, but like I'm just saying like, you

26:22

know, you're right about this. You have a

26:24

little bit of personality, have a little bit of

26:26

success and especially when you're in a liberal city,

26:28

like a DC, these women are

26:31

so used to kind of like, and I hate

26:33

to bring up this term because it gets into

26:35

that alpha and beta thing, but it's a lot

26:37

of beta males, a lot of guys who claim

26:39

to be feminist, who like ultimately when women grow

26:41

up, they realize that they want stability in their

26:43

lives and not some guy who's just gonna talk

26:45

about their rights and maybe cook them dinner once

26:48

in a while or something or clean the house

26:50

or be beneath them. So it is a lot

26:52

easier, but when you get into those liberal areas

26:54

too, the other issue is, you

26:56

know, you'll be on a couple of good dates

26:58

with somebody and then they'll start crying about how

27:00

Bernie didn't win the presidential election in 2016 and

27:02

then that's kind of over too. Yeah,

27:07

I saw this Fox Newshead, this article up to

27:09

him where they, I guess they went to one

27:11

of these protests and they asked all of these

27:13

liberal protesters what their ideal vision of a society

27:16

is, like, which is interesting to me, like, okay,

27:18

let's just stop yelling at each other for a minute. If

27:20

you had your way, what would it look

27:22

like? What do you want? And it is

27:24

a lot of, it's a lot

27:26

of, like, abstract cliches about, but one of

27:29

the things you consistently hear is an expansion

27:31

of rights. Like, I want everybody to have

27:33

rights, I want everybody, and I read that

27:35

and watch that and I'm like, what rights

27:37

are you talking about? And I think what

27:39

they're talking about, whether knowingly

27:41

or not, and this is where

27:43

the right starts yelling communist at everything, but it's

27:46

true in that they're looking for positive

27:48

rights. You know the difference I'm sure

27:50

you do between negative and positive rights,

27:53

and the term rights has

27:55

been so, like, stretched that

27:57

they don't, I think

27:59

they are. unknowingly in many ways, but

28:02

arguing for positive rights, meaning I have

28:04

a right to health care, I have

28:06

a right to a certain minimum level

28:08

standard of living and wage, I have

28:10

a right to all of these things that

28:12

I should have in life without thinking about

28:15

where those rights come from. How do

28:17

you get those? Like, how do you get a

28:19

minimum standard of living? Are you asking

28:21

me how to get a minimum standard

28:23

of living? Will I, uh... I have a collection

28:26

of whiskey and hang out, but no,

28:28

look, you know, I think a lot

28:30

of these people got participation trophies when

28:32

they were kids, and so they want

28:34

more and more handouts because of it.

28:36

You know, we came up in a

28:38

generation where when we sucked at something,

28:40

people said we sucked at it. You know,

28:42

if you mouthed off at the right person,

28:44

you got punched in the face, we

28:47

learned the old school way of handling

28:49

with handling life. And so when you're

28:51

given a participation trophies moving forward, free

28:53

handouts from the federal government that takes

28:55

away from people who have done better

28:57

than you in life. You think that

28:59

you can go to college and get

29:01

a women's studies degree and not become

29:03

a barista, make a minimum wage. You

29:05

know, that's, again, this is all, it

29:07

all stems back to getting participation trophies

29:10

and candy instead of getting told that you

29:12

suck. You were the fact kid who couldn't play

29:14

any sports, which is me, so I learned how

29:16

to read books, you know. Tim

29:18

I found myself in a place where

29:20

I'm starting to agree with Batia Ungar Sargon

29:22

and I played a clip from her

29:24

from Pierce Morgan show yesterday on a

29:26

couple days ago on TV and She's a

29:28

former Democrat and I find myself in

29:30

this place in a former Democrat and

29:33

I find myself in this place Like I

29:35

don't know about this tariff situation. I don't

29:37

know how it's going to work out. I don't

29:39

know if it'll work or not but I

29:41

find myself in a place where I'm starting

29:44

to agree with a diagnosis where I'm starting

29:46

to a that income inequality is a

29:48

problem. Like it's a societal

29:51

and civilization problem. Just

29:53

meaning when that happens you start

29:55

having real problems in

29:57

society, potentially violence. But...

30:00

The difference in the prescription between

30:02

we'll call it magga and the

30:04

left on Acknowledgement of a problem that

30:06

you agree on is what you just talked

30:08

about the difference between rights

30:10

and participation trophies versus an

30:13

opportunity It seems like magga's approach to this

30:15

is hey, this is a problem We got

30:17

to figure out a way to support the

30:19

middle class so we don't have this huge

30:21

divide. So what are we going to do?

30:23

We're going to bring back jobs. We're going

30:25

to bring back jobs. We're going to bring

30:27

back jobs. We're going to take from you and

30:29

give to you. And that is basically a

30:31

governmental policy of a participation trophy.

30:34

It's a hand up instead of a handout.

30:36

You know, I came up in Baltimore City. I

30:38

grew up in the hood in Baltimore City. I

30:40

went to law school there and I helped out

30:42

a lot of kids. I worked in a youth

30:44

program. I volunteered with kids who had just gotten

30:46

out of juvenile hall. And so, you know, they

30:48

get out of lockup. And it is very very

30:50

easy for them with no family structure with no

30:52

money coming back in to go back to doing

30:54

whatever crime they were doing, which a lot of

30:56

them was selling drugs because it's easy money. And

30:58

this program was set to give them job

31:00

skills. We got them their GED. We got them back

31:03

into schools. We got them back into schools. We got

31:05

them back working as best as we could into the

31:07

real world. And that is the difference. Instead of just

31:09

getting you a hand up, it's giving

31:11

you that job training, giving you that opportunity

31:14

to become a real functional, quality member of

31:16

quality member of society member of society. Democrats

31:19

just don't see those policies as,

31:21

you know what, I think it's

31:23

like they don't want to do the

31:25

hard work. It's much easier to just

31:28

give you a, you know, a free

31:30

handout and hope that you vote that

31:32

way. I mean, it's what they would

31:35

did with illegal aliens crossing the border

31:37

here. You know, instead of working

31:39

to become a legal citizen, which

31:41

we're all open to, you know,

31:43

you just bring everybody in, you,

31:46

you know, or Facebook. You know,

31:48

revelations, here's Alexander Acazio

31:50

Cortez, the populous voice

31:52

of the people from

31:54

the left, flying first

31:56

class. And here is John

31:58

Federman, flying. first class.

32:00

Again, another populist voice

32:03

of the left. You took this picture,

32:05

Tim. You found him in first

32:07

class and took that picture? Well,

32:09

you know, to give him credit. Nice

32:11

Ranger's hat. Are you a Ranger? Yeah,

32:13

no. I'm a New Ranger's. I'm just

32:15

rep in the business today. But look,

32:17

I, I, uh... I can sympathize with Federman because we were

32:20

on a two in one plane, you know, two

32:22

seats on one one seat on the other side,

32:24

and he cannot fit on a plane. The man

32:26

is a very, very large man, so he was

32:28

in 1A because he literally could not walk into

32:31

the plane, he had to hunt over, you know,

32:33

he's kind of like Shrek when he comes on

32:35

a plane. But AOC, she could at least play

32:37

the role, right? I mean, we all know that

32:39

she's making good money, good money, you, between Congress,

32:42

you, you know, you, you know, you know, She

32:44

could at least play the game and sit with

32:46

people, but I think her fear is and her

32:48

people's fear is that she would have to

32:51

sit and answer real questions and interact with

32:53

people and potentially sit next to somebody like

32:55

me, even though I'm a first class guy

32:57

and I don't try to hide that. I'm

32:59

not trying to be a... But you know,

33:02

like, I think that that is a protect

33:04

mode for her to be up there, but

33:06

it's totally, totally hypocritical for her to be

33:08

living the high life while she's saying she's

33:11

a woman to the people. Can

33:13

I tell you about first class? So first

33:15

of all, I never really flew first

33:17

class before I started working in corporate

33:19

America, right? And then you get a

33:22

corporate job and you can say, okay,

33:24

you can negotiate your contract and

33:26

say, okay, then I'm flying if it's

33:28

over three hours, then it's a first

33:30

class ticket. That's how it works. Okay.

33:32

So then I got a little used to it.

33:34

And it's hard to go back. But I

33:36

still hadn't bought like much of my own

33:38

ever, because we're thrifty. My wife is. So

33:40

my birthday was last weekend and

33:43

she takes me on a getaway and I

33:45

have to go down. Now I'm flying coach

33:47

on my birthday, which was a big

33:49

birthday. I turned 50 and she's like,

33:51

I thought we weren't first class people,

33:53

we didn't do that only on

33:56

special occasions. And I was like,

33:58

is my 50th birthday not? special

34:00

occasion like if this isn't it when

34:02

is the special occasion I have to

34:04

go down for my special occasion business

34:07

business class or first class for

34:09

my 50th birthday I have to go

34:11

to coach that sounds like something you

34:13

should bring up with your family law

34:15

attorney but look now my my whole

34:18

thing is I've gained the system on

34:20

points and and I learned this I

34:22

don't I don't live a lavish lifestyle

34:24

But I've gained the system on points

34:26

and I've got all the credit cards

34:29

and all the things you put all

34:31

the points on one credit card didn't

34:33

get first class forever. That's my, that's

34:35

my try. It's hard to get upgraded

34:38

these days. It seems hard. Well, when

34:40

you're coming out of New York, Boston,

34:42

it's hard to get upgraded these

34:44

days. It seems hard. Well, when

34:46

you're coming out of New York,

34:48

like, you know, and when I

34:50

come out of connections from DFW,

34:52

if I go to like, brand

34:54

rapids or you know like Charleston

34:57

you're getting it you're getting

34:59

the upgrade. Oh there, there.

35:01

Um, probably I've never met

35:03

him in person. How big is

35:05

Federman? Like what is he? Are we

35:07

talking six six? What is he? He's

35:09

got to be. So I'm 5 10

35:11

and he's got to be a half foot

35:13

taller than me. So he we're talking

35:16

six, five, six, six. Yeah, he's

35:18

a he's a monster and a

35:20

big guy, not just tall. You know, you

35:22

know, very nice. No, you know, and

35:24

the thing is, too, I got beat

35:26

up for taking that picture with him,

35:28

because apparently I'm not a real conservative

35:31

for being nice to somebody who's on

35:33

the left. But he's a really nice

35:35

guy. I don't agree with anything he

35:37

votes for. He says some stuff right

35:39

once in a while, but you have

35:41

conversation with him. Once in a while,

35:43

but you have conversation with him. He's

35:45

a conversation with him. He's a

35:47

conversation with him. He's a conversation

35:49

with him. He's interesting. He's interesting.

35:51

I disagree with him on a

35:53

lot. I think we have some

35:55

levels of agreement too, which would

35:57

be interesting. But that's the bottom line. He's

36:00

in. And I also think he's authentic.

36:02

I don't think he's a faker. I

36:04

think he believes what he believes. And,

36:06

you know, he's, I think because of

36:08

the horrible thing that happened to him

36:11

with his traumatic brain injury, I think

36:13

he's become more honest and he's very

36:15

direct. And like, he came on the

36:17

plane and like... was the kindest person

36:19

to everyone there. I've met a bunch

36:21

of politicos, a bunch of Republicans are

36:23

kind of nasty in person. I won't

36:26

ask you if you ever come on

36:28

my show, I'll ask you who the

36:30

nastiest people are in politics, but I

36:32

won't hold you up to that on

36:34

your show. But as far as politicians

36:36

go, one of the nicest guys I've

36:39

ever met. Don't agree with half of

36:41

the crazy things he does or says

36:43

or votes for. But again, very kind

36:45

guy and I can't. You saw this

36:47

story. It's out of Dallas. So I

36:49

came in the name of the company.

36:52

The guys can tell me it's colossal

36:54

something. But they're messing around with genetics.

36:56

And so they took the genetics of

36:58

a couple different things. They started with

37:00

a gray wolf. That was their backbone.

37:02

And they started changing the DNA strands

37:04

in the gray wolf, adding this. But

37:07

they've recreated. I don't think it's exact,

37:09

but it's pretty close to the extinct

37:11

dire wolf, which... I didn't even know

37:13

the dire wolf. Honestly, if I'm being

37:15

real, I didn't know it was a

37:17

real thing. I thought it was from

37:20

Game of Thrones. But I guess it

37:22

was a real thing. These giant, this

37:24

is a white one. I think they

37:26

have one or two. White dire wolves,

37:28

they're bringing back from extinction, Tim. Yeah,

37:30

I think that's a mistake one. White

37:33

dire wolf, they're bringing back from extinction.

37:35

I just let him go rock and

37:37

they can't get DNA from me. That's

37:39

scary. I mean, who knows what we

37:41

can start to clone from there, but

37:43

if we're going to go down this

37:45

road, I was talking with your producer

37:48

before I came on for the segment,

37:50

I'm like, let's go Jurassic Park, man.

37:52

I want to see some dinosaurs. Let's

37:54

just call the company in Gen. Let's

37:56

get Aisla New Bl. or whatever, and

37:58

we can go start making some stegosaurus

38:01

and some bronosaurus, and we know how

38:03

it goes, goes wrong, and then we

38:05

start getting picked up by pterodactyls in

38:07

the streets, but let's do it. Well,

38:09

Elon Musk said, make a mammoth, make

38:11

a baby wooly mammoth, and what, I

38:14

mean, clearly they will, and if, I

38:16

don't think this stuff is a matter

38:18

of can, it's a matter of when.

38:20

They are going to make dinosaurs. Jurassic

38:22

Park is going to be real. We're

38:24

going to have dinosaurs back in some

38:26

capacity. Yeah, no, I'm excited for it.

38:29

I can't wait to see it, but

38:31

I don't know it'll happen in our

38:33

lifetime, and if it does, like I

38:35

said, it will happen in our lifetime,

38:37

and if it does, like I said,

38:39

it will actually be, not to be

38:42

like a conspiracy guy here, but they're

38:44

probably doing it on an island somewhere

38:46

right now already. They're probably playing around.

38:48

But you know they've been working on

38:50

everything else. And then, obviously, the issue

38:52

in the question is people. And I

38:55

think we're already doing this to some

38:57

degree. So and I don't, this isn't

38:59

a, oh, this is bad or this

39:01

is good thing. This is just going

39:03

on. So IVF, right, is a bunch

39:05

of embryos. And you can select, I

39:07

believe, which embryo you want to move

39:10

forward with. So there's some selection right

39:12

there. I don't know how much they

39:14

can tell you. about the various embryos

39:16

like I know they can do male

39:18

and female so you can you can

39:20

select the gender I don't know how

39:23

much else they can know but I

39:25

mean I don't think it's a far

39:27

stretch at all till you can start

39:29

what was that movie was it gatica

39:31

was that gatica with Ethan Hawk where

39:33

like you can start selecting for eye

39:36

color intelligence these types of things and

39:38

then from there I just don't think

39:40

we're on a far stretch where you're

39:42

creating it without the you know the

39:44

human parents really much involved in the

39:46

process for people the future of people.

39:48

Yeah, this is scary and it gets

39:51

into a lot of religious arguments. that

39:53

again, like do we have the right

39:55

to do this? You know, we're on

39:57

that slippery slope. I'm sure that these

39:59

experiments have already happened. We just again

40:01

don't know about it because you know

40:04

that our scientists somewhere, if not in

40:06

America, then in China, where they have

40:08

like basically no human rights. They just

40:10

start playing around and seeing what they

40:12

can create. I'm sure it's been done.

40:14

And it's whether or not we have

40:17

the right to do it. That's going

40:19

to be an interesting legal battle or

40:21

legislative battle probably 50 years from now.

40:23

Oh, I think sooner. I saw a

40:25

headline this morning, Tim. I didn't read

40:27

the article yet. I wanted to, where

40:29

it said something like the Supreme Court

40:32

still doesn't know if embryos are property

40:34

or people. So, like, you know, all

40:36

of this, and right now, by the

40:38

way, it is property. I think that's

40:40

the way it's treated. Anyone who's ever

40:42

had IVF knows that you have leftover

40:45

embryos. Like, what happens to those embryos

40:47

is a serious moral decision, but it's

40:49

also a decision yet that the... the

40:51

courts are going to have to have

40:53

some input on, I would imagine at

40:55

some point here. Because once those things

40:58

are getting more evolved. We've got a

41:00

member of the Supreme Court who doesn't

41:02

know what a woman is. So I

41:04

mean, this is a really, really scary

41:06

situation. It's so easy to forget that

41:08

it was Cantonji Brown Jackson. It was

41:10

the one who said, well, you know,

41:13

I'm not a biologist, so I don't

41:15

know what a woman is. So like,

41:17

I mean, with a serious decision like

41:19

that looming. That's the last person you

41:21

won on the Supreme Court. I

41:25

just keep coming back to this on

41:27

every level Tim on everything the rate

41:29

of innovation the rate of technological advancement

41:31

the the rate of information spreading AI

41:33

and then even little stuff I've been

41:35

talking about what's happening with college sports

41:37

and the NCAA and all these things

41:39

like everything is changing so fast I

41:41

think you know every generation has said

41:43

the next is taking it to hell

41:45

in a handbasket so you have to

41:48

dismiss that to some degree and we're

41:50

not sure it's going to be worse.

41:52

But I don't know that there's ever

41:54

been a moment in human history, including

41:56

the Industrial Revolution, where you could have

41:58

pointed to and go, the rapid rate.

42:00

of change is unparalleled. And I think we're

42:02

living in that right now. 50 years

42:04

from now, so, you know, I'll probably

42:07

be gone, but that's another thing.

42:09

Lifespans are all of a

42:11

sudden expanding, like rapidly as we

42:13

speak. It's probably gonna be

42:16

unrecognizable to the life we live

42:18

today. Oh, a thousand percent. I mean,

42:20

when you look at the Industrial Revolution, they

42:22

were like, oh, we made a new, you

42:24

know, machine that can, you know. So things

42:27

a little bit faster. Now it's we can

42:29

create life that is a that is a

42:31

scary jump It's an exponential jump and it's

42:33

not going anywhere and then where do we

42:35

go from there like I mean even even

42:37

you know I'm a Star Trek nerd even

42:39

watching Star Trek It's like they couldn't even

42:41

predict the future from back in the day

42:43

I mean they had they had cell phones

42:46

pinned down and you know laser guns, but

42:48

other than that I mean the rate

42:50

of genetic manipulation and what we could

42:52

do it's incredibly scary And like I

42:54

said, like it's scarier that we have

42:56

an activist judge on the Supreme Court

42:58

right now who refuses to define what

43:00

a woman is when we have actual

43:02

human life coming down that's going to

43:04

be decided on. Yeah, because you're not going

43:07

to be able to roll the clock backwards.

43:09

Like for anybody listen, it's like, oh my

43:11

God, we got to arrest this. You just

43:13

can't. It's impossible to arrest this

43:15

level of human advancement. So the

43:18

only thing that you can fall back

43:20

on is like eternal values and eternal.

43:22

There are some things that are

43:24

constant, like wisdom, faith, values

43:26

that we know of guided humanity through

43:28

thousands of years. Those have to

43:30

be the things that guide you

43:32

through this rapid change. And if

43:34

you're led by people who

43:36

can't even identify biology, you're

43:38

not a ship without a sail, you're a

43:41

ship with a sail, but no rudder.

43:43

That's what it is. You're going to

43:45

blow anywhere the wind takes you. Yeah.

43:47

It's incredibly scary where we are. So

43:49

let's start with the wolves. Hey, they

43:51

were cute. It's like, look, we got

43:54

some cute puppies. Also, genetic mutations are

43:56

coming down the line and they're going

43:58

to start trying to. create human life

44:01

from embryos and well embryos our

44:03

life but create human life from

44:05

nothing in a lab it's good

44:07

I mean this is you're right

44:09

50 years from now it's gonna

44:12

look like a totally different planet

44:14

than what we are what we're

44:16

in now. By the way have

44:18

you ever been around much Tim

44:20

wild animals like non-domesticated animals? Got

44:22

chased by Caribou once in in

44:25

Rocky Mountain National Park. Okay so

44:27

that counts. When I worked on

44:29

a ranch in Montana you know

44:31

we had horses mules cattle. Okay,

44:33

these are domesticated animals. These are

44:35

animals that respond to humans in

44:38

some way, right? One time we

44:40

were hired to load and transport

44:42

a shipment of buffalo, they're babies.

44:44

They weren't big. They were all

44:46

young. You immediately understood the difference

44:48

between a domesticated animal and a

44:51

wild animal. Like, they are doing

44:53

things off instinct and herd mentality

44:55

and craziness that is completely uncontrollable.

44:57

My point is You don't want

44:59

a pet dire wolf. You don't

45:02

want a pet coyote. You don't

45:04

want to try to bring these

45:06

wild animals in and pretend like

45:08

they're cool edgy domestic animals. So

45:10

good luck to whoever wants to

45:12

raise those dire wolf. Also sounds

45:15

like you described the difference between

45:17

dating a woman with values from

45:19

the South and a woman in

45:21

DC. Maybe. All right, I hate

45:23

to end here, but this is

45:25

on the list of things that

45:28

I do want to talk about

45:30

today because it's not an up-upby

45:32

thing. So the manifesto and the

45:34

diaries the writings of Audrey Hale

45:36

who is the shooter from Nashville

45:38

Who went into the Christian school

45:41

killed a bunch of those children

45:43

have continued to be released some

45:45

of her writings and It's pretty

45:47

it's pretty eye-opening some of the

45:49

stuff she wrote about like wanting

45:51

to kill all the white kids

45:54

and you know, she's clearly racially

45:56

motivated in this stuff. Whatever was

45:58

why who knows I mean she

46:00

was white person but pretty... the

46:02

motivations are pretty ugly and pretty

46:05

revealing to him. Yeah, the scariest

46:07

thing because I read through some

46:09

of the things that she said

46:11

It's no different and I'm not

46:13

saying this hyperbolicly This is very

46:15

truthfully. It's no different than what

46:18

I've heard on the view a

46:20

lot of the stuff that is

46:22

that has that she said Were

46:24

the talking points from the extreme

46:26

left like television hosts and you

46:28

wonder who's still? being affirmed by

46:31

the crazy things that they say

46:33

on the view where they're accusing

46:35

people of you know, racism or

46:37

saying that all, you know, white

46:39

people are bad and these like

46:41

crazy tropes. This is, this is

46:44

who's listening to it. This is

46:46

who's being reinforced by it. And

46:48

it's, it's just a very, it's

46:50

a scary place where we are

46:52

that, that someone can think this

46:54

way, and I think there's of

46:57

course mental illness involved as well.

46:59

But when you have some of

47:01

these talking points being paraded on

47:03

television, by the same things. Very

47:05

scary situation. You know, I started

47:08

out with this this new poll

47:10

by this institute that looked at

47:12

the rise of assassination culture and

47:14

political violence where 55% of the

47:16

left is is kind of good

47:18

with or justifying the death of

47:21

Donald Trump. By the way, not

47:23

natural cause death of Donald Trump.

47:25

And it does make me wonder

47:27

because 39% of all respondents Tim

47:29

were also okay with it. So

47:31

it made me wonder. Has this

47:34

always been who we are and

47:36

we just papered over it with

47:38

like the niceties of civilization? I

47:40

see you shaking your head already.

47:42

You think this is on the

47:44

rise and I'm assuming because of

47:47

what you just said, the rise

47:49

of some of this rhetoric and

47:51

othering and moral superiority. Oh yeah,

47:53

I mean, it's not just rhetoric

47:55

and othering and moral superiority. Oh

47:58

yeah, I mean, it's not just

48:00

that, but let's go back to

48:02

participation. And that's what we have

48:04

a generation of now. So we

48:06

have people who only know how

48:08

to lash out and get violent

48:11

and... and break people's property like

48:13

Tesla's, and they're being reinforced by

48:15

national television hosts. This is rising

48:17

because of the left losing, and

48:19

I hope it ends soon, and

48:21

I hope something is done about

48:24

it. But again, you know, back

48:26

to mostly peaceful protests. You look

48:28

at this, like the volume has

48:30

been turned up, or the boiling

48:32

frog, the volume has been turned

48:34

up for a very, very long

48:37

time here, when they're justifying burning

48:39

Minneapolis or, you know. What was

48:41

it? The autonomous zone is a

48:43

chas in Seattle. It was just,

48:45

you know, summer of love. This

48:47

has all been been given the

48:50

green light because we're still, we're

48:52

pandering to these people who got

48:54

participation trophies back in the day

48:56

or losing now. I think you're

48:58

right, unfortunately. Tim Young is a

49:01

comedian. He's a fellow at the

49:03

Heritage Foundation. Check him out on

49:05

X at Tim. Runs his mouth.

49:07

He's repin as he mentioned, not

49:09

the Texas Rangers, but Veebes. Why

49:11

are you Rangersant Tim? You grew

49:14

up in Baltimore. Listen, I've gone

49:16

through a lot in my life

49:18

with the Orioles and then the

49:20

Mets. And then the Rangers, when

49:22

I finally became a resident here,

49:24

Texas, started doing okay. And so

49:27

I was like, you finally gave

49:29

me something to believe in. And

49:31

also they're down the street and

49:33

they get cheap tickets when they're

49:35

losing. They're one of the few

49:37

teams, not few. Rangers and Stars

49:40

give us something to cheer about

49:42

in the Dallas area. All right.

49:44

Make sure you check out Tim

49:46

Young. I think he's right, by

49:48

the way, about the bowling frog

49:50

as well, not just, not just

49:53

through a short window, but what

49:55

we talked about the last couple

49:57

of days, like, this is the,

49:59

this is what happens, this is

50:01

the recipe, this is the path.

50:04

When an empire, it begins its

50:06

decline, internal division, and then potentially

50:08

violence, even more often than not,

50:10

violence, is par for the course.

50:12

We've got to figure out away,

50:14

see if we can reverse history.

50:17

Show out rebound a year of

50:19

triumph and tragedy yeshiva university basketball

50:21

It's about the season at the

50:23

only Jewish University in the United

50:25

States after the October 7th attacks

50:27

in Israel. We have the director

50:30

Pat Diamond and the coach Elliot

50:32

Steinmetz on our show Next. And

50:34

their basketball program, which had several

50:36

players from Israel, had a tough

50:38

season in front of them. It

50:40

has been chronicled in a new

50:43

Fox Nation special, Rebound, a year

50:45

of triumph and tragedy at yeshiva

50:47

University basketball. This is the Will

50:49

Kane Show, streaming live at Fox

50:51

news.com. Join me now, is Pat

50:54

Diamond and Coach Elliot Steinmetz. Coach

50:56

Steinmetz is the head coach at

50:58

yeshiva University, and Pat Dimin is

51:00

the director of Rebound. Thanks for

51:02

being with me, with me, Fellis.

51:04

Pat you are also one of

51:07

the guys behind full swing on

51:09

Netflix very popular series that focuses

51:11

in on Many of the professional

51:13

golfers F1 style I can't remember

51:15

the name of the F1 documentary,

51:17

but a lot of these have

51:20

gotten really popular full swings great

51:22

some of the guys on the

51:24

show were saying it's their favorite

51:26

show What got your attention about?

51:28

Yeshiva University this story and the

51:30

desire to put together rebound Yeah

51:33

coach coach and I were introduced

51:35

a couple years before the attacks

51:37

so we had a relationship with

51:39

his son who's a professional pitcher

51:41

So you know we had a

51:43

relationship and then obviously the attacks

51:46

happened and We reached out to

51:48

the school and we reached out

51:50

to coach and you know we

51:52

said this could this is a

51:54

really compelling amazing story albeit obviously

51:57

devastating circumstances but this is something

51:59

we we need to follow and

52:01

document and coach and the and

52:03

yeshiva trusted us and trusted myself

52:05

to to run this film and

52:07

so Yeah, off we were And coach time

52:09

is tell me about your team tell

52:12

me about You know the player make

52:14

up and how what happened on

52:16

October 7th affected your team Yeah,

52:18

so we are a meet-up of

52:21

obviously Jewish student athletes six of

52:23

our players last year were Israeli

52:25

Three of them had served in

52:28

the IDF prior to coming over

52:30

to university. I myself was in

52:33

Jerusalem on October 7th, a little

52:35

bit delayed getting back due to

52:37

flight cancellations. It was a challenge

52:40

obviously coming back three days late

52:42

and just having a group of

52:45

obviously mixed the Jewish and Jewish

52:47

Israeli student athletes who were trying

52:49

to figure out if they wanted to play

52:51

basketball, some of them trying to figure out

52:54

if they were going to go back and

52:56

serve in the IDF again, and just trying

52:58

to find a way to get a message

53:00

out that was bigger than the results

53:02

of games, and Pat kind of brought that

53:05

to us. More of the Will Kane show? Right

53:07

after this. Talked to me about that debate

53:09

and the decision, like, did you have

53:11

players that went back to Israel? Was

53:13

the team divided on whether or not

53:16

to continue to continue the season?

53:18

So they weren't, you know, initially

53:21

it was just more of a,

53:23

you know, standing around looking at

53:25

each other and like, how do

53:27

we, how do we practice? How

53:29

do we even prepare? We had

53:32

players who called their units back

53:34

in the IDF and asked that

53:36

they were needed, you know, they

53:38

were told to, you know, kind

53:40

of hang tight for now, but

53:43

we're going to find a way

53:45

for this to be bigger than

53:47

basketball. You know, we started coming up with

53:49

ideas right then. None of them were a

53:52

documentary, but there were ideas thrown around by

53:54

the team, you know, in terms of bringing

53:56

in, you know, kids from Israel potentially at

53:58

some point who were... who were displaced

54:00

by the war, running clinics for

54:02

them, doing things just off the

54:04

court that we could do to

54:06

affect people. And that kind of

54:08

became the driving goal of the

54:10

season. And Pat, when you approached

54:12

a lot of the players, like

54:14

how was it received? Hey, we're

54:16

going to document you guys through

54:18

this entire season. This entire season.

54:21

Listen, in all the projects we

54:23

do, you mentioned full swing and

54:25

working with any. athlete, professional, college,

54:27

whatever it may be, you know,

54:29

you, I think, you know, I

54:31

pride myself on coming in as

54:33

a human being first and gaining

54:35

trust and building those relationships out.

54:37

And then, you know, you kind

54:39

of approach it as a human

54:41

where we're dealing with, you know,

54:43

war and life and death and

54:45

a very sensitive topic. So this

54:47

is obviously a little bit different

54:49

than some of the other projects.

54:51

I think with the relationships and

54:53

our crew and myself, you know,

54:55

we built those relationships and they

54:57

saw how passionate and serious we

54:59

were about telling this story. Obviously

55:01

we were with them after the

55:03

attacks and then we were with

55:05

them in Israel in January after

55:07

that and that was a really...

55:09

You know, I think that was a

55:12

moment where everyone team coach, you know,

55:14

our staff was like, hey, we are

55:16

all we're all in on this and

55:18

we're all committed. We were there during

55:21

war and it was a really sensitive

55:23

time with players going back and seeing

55:25

family for the first time since the

55:27

attacks going and helping communities and helping

55:30

the country where they could. So I

55:32

think they saw the sincerity and how

55:34

I approached storytelling and they knew, you

55:36

know, this is the real deal. And

55:39

Coach Simon, this had to have been

55:41

all season long, like juggling these emotions,

55:43

juggling what it takes in a normal

55:45

basketball season to get your players ready.

55:47

Like now you've got this, I'm not

55:50

talking about the documentary, I'm talking about

55:52

the emotional impact of everything happening in

55:54

the world around your team. There's no

55:56

doubt, it was, you know. I set

55:59

it after the season. This will go

56:01

down as the most unique, certainly the

56:03

most unique team in yeshiva University's history,

56:05

and for all the wrong reasons. I

56:08

hope we never have a team like

56:10

that again. That's playing under the umbrella

56:12

of war and so much going on.

56:14

We had to change rules. We don't

56:16

usually allow guys to have their phones

56:19

in practice. We had guys checking their

56:21

phones during practice. Every time a siren

56:23

went off and it was a rocket

56:25

attack. guys want to make sure their

56:28

families are okay and that just has

56:30

to take you know take priority so

56:32

I think the the perspective changed more

56:34

than anything else the perspective on life

56:37

the perspective on what sports is about

56:39

and I think that was that was

56:41

the biggest driving change I think and

56:43

and you know everybody all of our

56:46

players kind of jumped on board with

56:48

that and we did the best we

56:50

could with it what is the best

56:52

you could you hate to ask about

56:54

basketball I mean because it's sort of

56:57

like the least important thing going on

56:59

in this entire in this entire human

57:01

drama, but it's also the centerpiece of

57:03

this of this story, this documentary. It's

57:06

also the centerpiece of your job, everyone's

57:08

job there. You still got to get

57:10

out there and you got to play

57:12

basketball. So, um, how are you guys

57:15

able to pull that off successfully? So

57:17

it was a you know from a

57:19

basketball perspective a pretty successful season Considering

57:21

I guess we were up and down

57:23

throughout the year. We had we had

57:26

we had our we took our losses

57:28

for sure We ended up making a

57:30

run lost in the conference championship came

57:32

to a really a really good team

57:35

And then we brought it back this

57:37

year and thankfully had a had a

57:39

different ending to the end of the

57:41

season this year What was it? So

57:44

this year we were able to win

57:46

our conference championship and go to the

57:48

NCAA tournament, which was a great experience

57:50

for this class. Yeah. Pat, tell me,

57:53

you know, if we, if we tune

57:55

into Fox Nation, you know, I'm sure

57:57

you focus in on a lot of

57:59

these individuals, a lot of these stories,

58:01

share with some of those that we

58:04

could expect, like some of the, you

58:06

know, more impactful stories you came across.

58:08

Yeah, so. You know, obviously, you're dealing

58:10

with a team and we focus on

58:13

coach and a few of the, you

58:15

know, marquee players, Zevi, ID, who graduated

58:17

last year, Zevi, I think, is a

58:19

senior this year, right? Coach, you know,

58:22

a few of the players that are

58:24

from Israel, Tom, but really what the

58:26

viewer is going to see is how

58:28

sport can really... unite and educate and

58:30

kind of and bring light to a

58:33

dark time where it gets you know

58:35

for these for these you know young

58:37

adults it got their mind off of

58:39

a really tough time even for an

58:42

hour or two a day that that

58:44

is sometimes enough to get you through

58:46

you know through those tough times so

58:48

you know the viewers really gonna see

58:51

a season with a team and the

58:53

ebbs and flows of you know missing

58:55

home, how do we focus on basketball,

58:57

we're committing to kind of be this

59:00

beacon of light in a dark time

59:02

for our people, for our country, you

59:04

know, for everyone, and so the viewer's

59:06

really going to see. this ebb and

59:08

flow of a whole of a whole

59:11

season really from you know the beginning

59:13

of the season after the attacks we

59:15

go with them back to Israel in

59:17

January for about a week and then

59:20

we come back for the second half

59:22

of the season where there's the ups

59:24

and downs and then obviously they they

59:26

pull it out and they make it

59:29

to the conference championships you know sadly

59:31

to lose but yeah you really get

59:33

an idea of you know Who this

59:35

group is you may not know a

59:37

lot about the about about their faith

59:40

and who they are so kind of

59:42

breaking down some of these preconceived notions

59:44

and just seeing You know a team

59:46

and a culture going through a hard

59:49

time but using basketball as you know

59:51

kind of a beacon of light in

59:53

that time And I have to think

59:55

coach It ends up being a healthy

59:58

outlet for your players. I mean As

1:00:00

Pat talked about, you got that hour or

1:00:02

two a day where physically you're

1:00:04

required to be present somewhere

1:00:07

else. You know, a physical, and I don't

1:00:09

mean just presence, I mean, you

1:00:11

know, sweating, working hard. It's, you know,

1:00:13

it is something that transports you away

1:00:15

from other world concerns, or

1:00:18

at least comes as close as possible

1:00:20

as possible in certain situations.

1:00:22

And I would have to think also,

1:00:24

it comes a thing that creates a

1:00:26

unique bond. Of all the teams you've had,

1:00:28

you know, I imagine it has to be

1:00:30

something that created a unique bond within that

1:00:33

team. There's no doubt. This is the closest

1:00:35

group I've probably ever had from a chemistry

1:00:37

standpoint. We've had some pretty damn good teams

1:00:39

over the last number of years. But these

1:00:41

guys are as close as it gets and

1:00:43

I think a large part of that was

1:00:45

the trip last year and everything they've gone

1:00:48

through and kind of handling adversity. And, you

1:00:50

know, in terms of that distraction, we talked

1:00:52

about it throughout the year. October 7th and

1:00:54

the things that have gone on since are

1:00:56

not things that you move on from, but

1:00:58

you still move forward. You know, you can't

1:01:00

just, you're not going to sit in your

1:01:02

dorm room or apartment and kind of bury

1:01:04

your head and wait, you know, for the

1:01:07

world to change. The world is not going

1:01:09

to change. So you find ways to move

1:01:11

forward and you find ways to have an

1:01:13

impact and for these guys, basketball was that

1:01:15

way. All right,

1:01:17

the series is rebound a year of

1:01:19

triumph and tragedy at yeshiva University basketball

1:01:22

It's up on Fox Nation. It's a

1:01:24

two-part special Pat Diamonds the director coach

1:01:26

Elliot Steinmetz is the head coach at

1:01:28

yeshiva University And we think you should

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check it out coach Pat Pat thank

1:01:32

you guys so much for being with

1:01:35

us today Thank you guys for having us

1:01:37

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