0:00

This episode is brought to you

0:02

by Progressive Insurance. Do you ever find

0:04

yourself playing the budgeting game? Well,

0:06

with the name your price tool

0:08

from Progressive, you can find

0:10

options that fit your budget

0:12

and potentially lower your bills.

0:14

Try it at Progressive.com. Progressive

0:16

Casualty Insurance Company and

0:19

Affiliates Price and Coverage Match

0:21

Limited by state law, not

0:23

available in all states. I'm

0:25

going to say a

0:27

word and then you're

0:30

going to say a

0:32

word and then we're

0:35

going to go back

0:37

and forth with

0:39

the objective

0:42

of we're going to

0:44

form a full

0:47

sentence together. Yes.

0:49

Okay. First word.

0:52

Sweet. Tooth. Family.

0:55

Fun. Activities.

0:57

Alcohol? I mean like,

0:59

okay. So let me, let

1:01

me, let me, let me,

1:03

let me, let me, let me

1:05

phrase it in a

1:07

different way. So we're,

1:10

I, this is more

1:12

like an improv exercise.

1:14

It's not word association.

1:16

It's more like, we're

1:18

trying to form a

1:20

sentence is the goal. Right.

1:23

So like, you know,

1:25

like how a sentence

1:27

usually goes is like, you

1:29

know, like an object

1:31

and then like is or

1:34

are and then Usually

1:37

one of us will like

1:39

say a curse word in

1:41

there That's usually how

1:44

it ends Okay, let's

1:46

try one more time.

1:48

I'll let you start

1:50

this time Oh shit at

1:54

funerals,

1:57

especially.

2:00

When? There? Yours? What? The

2:02

funeral is really funny.

2:04

What is your own funeral?

2:07

It's really funny. So there

2:09

we go. Now we're all

2:11

eased in. Now we can

2:13

sink the audio with that.

2:15

And then we're all good.

2:17

So what are we talking

2:19

about just now before

2:22

we started? We're talking

2:24

about mics and shit.

2:26

Mikes numbers. adrenaline

2:29

dopamine family fun

2:31

alcoholic activities yeah

2:34

oh wonderful it's only

2:36

three o'clock here in

2:38

the state so I can't really

2:41

do that yet so I'm

2:43

but I'm feeling like I'm

2:45

feeling the contact high almost

2:48

from you I'm feeling the

2:50

contact high almost from you

2:52

I could feel your energy

2:54

through the ether So how

2:56

do you usually do these?

2:58

Because I know this is

3:00

more of like a, you're

3:02

interviewing me at the same

3:04

time, and I'm also interviewing

3:06

you, so like if you

3:08

have any questions that you

3:10

usually ask, I'm all, I'm

3:12

all, I'm down for whatever

3:14

you got. Well there's always

3:16

the one question we asked every

3:18

guest, and that is, if you could

3:21

say a pint of kithulu, so

3:23

it's like, it's obviously like

3:25

a pint mug. Like a glass

3:27

mug with some green glowing shit

3:29

in there. And then when you

3:32

drink it, and it kind of

3:34

tastes like umami kind of

3:36

like there's no real like

3:38

you can't say it's sweet

3:40

or tangy or spicy. It's

3:42

just a fucking like it's

3:45

an experience. I would say

3:47

it's probably like if you

3:49

mixed pickle juice with bleach. And

3:51

then when you finish drinking it,

3:53

you like instead of a milk

3:55

mustache or whatever, like fucking tentacles

3:58

come out of your lips. Yeah,

4:03

I mean rather than this is your

4:05

show man. How do you normally do

4:07

this? I mean we're just chilling here,

4:09

so I don't really have a format or

4:11

anything aside from the improv skit at

4:13

the beginning where we form the sentence. That's

4:15

usually the only thing I have planned. So

4:20

it's more like we're just kind of chilling here, get to

4:22

know each other a little bit better. So

4:25

why don't you tell me about yourself and

4:27

your various projects and your, because I've

4:29

listened to a pint of Cthulhu a little

4:31

bit, and I'm really enjoying the chemistry

4:33

you have with your mates, and it's a

4:35

real fun time to listen to, especially

4:37

if you're into TTRPGs and all that. So

4:39

why don't you speak on that a

4:41

little bit? OK, well,

4:43

I am Matt. And as you

4:45

have said, yes, I am the producer

4:47

for a pint of Cthulhu. It

4:51

started about nearly

4:53

three years ago now. Just

4:57

one of those things that was

4:59

like a bunch of friends online when, you

5:01

know, fuck it, do you

5:03

want to play some games, record it? You

5:05

won't play a little game. Would

5:09

you like to play a game?

5:11

Just imagining you with your fucking

5:13

with your with your tentacle mustache,

5:15

you come in on a little

5:17

tricycle. All right, guys, we're. Buckle

5:19

in, boys, we're recording. I've attached

5:21

a fucking lock device on your

5:23

skull. And if you don't record

5:25

with me, it'll fucking split your

5:28

skull open. You'll split your skull

5:30

in twain. It's

5:32

not that dark, but, know, I

5:36

mean, just a bunch of people

5:38

that like him, bit of a shits and giggles,

5:40

playing a cup of TTRPGs, talking

5:42

to creators, other

5:45

podcasters, such as yourself. That's what it's all

5:47

about. The real the real wizard scrolls

5:49

the friends we make along the way. Hmm.

5:53

Current projects at the

5:56

moment is trying to

5:58

self write. our

6:01

season four from the ground up

6:03

using a system that's not

6:05

even out yet And then

6:07

potentially going to

6:10

publish it potentially yeah, that's

6:12

usually a Good

6:14

part of that. So what is

6:16

this the mystery system that you

6:19

have in mind? But it was

6:21

a Kickstarter that came out a

6:23

little while back By odd God

6:25

get up odd gob games and

6:27

still fleet studios called blister critters

6:29

mmm Imagine

6:32

if you will a slightly

6:34

cartoonish world humans have disappeared

6:36

animals are sentient They get

6:38

magical weird powers Through

6:41

the power of the Sun mutating them

6:43

and getting nasty blisters It

6:46

can be as cartoonish as you want or

6:48

as fucked up as you want and knowing us

6:50

It's going to be incredibly fucked up considering the

6:52

first season we ever did with shotgun the baby. Oh

6:55

my goodness Like like shotgun

6:57

like Boom or like yeah,

6:59

or like you get a

7:01

beer can and bite it

7:03

and just Slurp the whole

7:06

thing in two seconds Because

7:08

either way that sounds very

7:10

disturbing It was cool. I could

7:12

do the game and the

7:14

scenario was sorrow and clay

7:17

In that you go into a swamp

7:19

your handed a baby by a weird

7:21

swamp monster And one of our players

7:23

instead of taking the child decided to

7:25

put a 12 -gauge to its head and

7:27

blow it into No, I hope that

7:29

episode had a content warrant on it

7:35

I'm gonna imagine like a five -year -old

7:37

fucking fine in your show like

7:39

oh wow Hey

7:41

if kids are listening to this, this is

7:43

a rare fucking fault. Yeah I like

7:46

the parents should be responsible for making sure

7:48

their child is absorbing the correct content Exactly,

7:51

this isn't cocoa melon. What the fuck

7:53

is this? Fucks

7:56

up So

8:01

let me ask you're so you're in

8:03

the the TTRP G spheres a little

8:05

bit more than I am Have you

8:07

ever heard of the game Space Kings?

8:09

No, I think you'll like it

8:11

a lot So like imagine like

8:14

a D&D if you will like

8:16

it's it's a real complicated game

8:18

like you got fucking all like all

8:20

these dice this whole fucking book of

8:23

rules and law and shit And

8:25

like for a newcomer like

8:27

me, I've played D&D a

8:29

few times and I couldn't

8:31

really get into it just

8:34

because like complicated like learning

8:36

curve, especially starting out. Space

8:38

Kings, instead of using dice

8:41

and all this, it uses a

8:43

deck of cards, 52 and then

8:45

the two jokers and then you're,

8:47

it's based on card flips. So

8:49

like if I'm a real strong

8:52

character. and my brawn is a

8:54

real like I have a brawn

8:56

of four is the maximum you

8:58

can have and I need to

9:00

lift a heavy object I might

9:02

use brawn and athletics as my

9:04

flips so if my brawn is

9:06

four and my athletics is like

9:08

two I'll flip six cards

9:10

and depending on the outcome

9:12

so faces and aces so

9:14

like King Queen Jack and

9:16

Ace count as a success

9:18

and number cards count as A

9:21

failure. But if you get a

9:23

joker, that's when funny stuff

9:25

happens. So like, if I,

9:27

if I, okay, I'm gonna flip

9:29

six cards with my big strong

9:32

character and I need to lift

9:34

this object. Okay, I got two

9:36

successes and a joker. So what

9:39

that means is I'm gonna kind

9:41

of be able to lift it

9:43

a little bit. But then like,

9:46

oh shit, it's too heavy. I

9:48

fucking slipped the disc. So

9:50

I would yeah like I actually was a

9:52

kickstarter like that was a kickstarter for

9:55

a super tri studios in the Kevin

9:57

Cole's the name of the fellow and

9:59

I remember like he had

10:01

a podcast called Pretend

10:03

Friends where they basically introduced this to everybody.

10:05

You can kind of get the gist of

10:07

how to play just by listening to like

10:09

two episodes of the show and then you're

10:11

basically good to go. I've just found

10:13

their website. Yeah,

10:16

it's a very, very like easy to

10:18

learn, hard to master kind

10:20

of thing. And it's very improv

10:22

heavy. Like basically whatever funny

10:24

idea sticks is what we'll go

10:26

with. The character I'm

10:28

currently running, I have like a

10:30

group of friends of mine are

10:32

playing a campaign where my character

10:34

is Tin Man from The Wizard

10:36

of Oz, except

10:39

I'm like, Hello, my

10:41

name is Tin Man and I fucking

10:43

love oil. And it's just me

10:45

doing that voice the whole time. Basically

10:47

going for a fucked up Stephen

10:49

Hawking. Yeah, pretty much

10:51

like Stephen Hawking like before the

10:53

whole Epstein thing. It's

10:56

just a fucking robot

10:58

walking around just drinking any

11:00

oil he can find. That's

11:02

my entire being. And like

11:04

I feel like with

11:07

me personally with tabletop RPGs, I'm not

11:09

that good at them. It's what

11:11

I found. I'm like I'm very like

11:13

I get easily distracted and

11:15

like if like as the host

11:17

of a TTRPG like would probably

11:19

want you to like ask

11:21

questions and like try to figure

11:23

out the lore of whatever

11:25

situation, whatever puzzle, like I'm the

11:27

kind of player I'll just

11:29

fucking go with whatever and not

11:32

ask any questions and just

11:34

blindly just go along with whatever.

11:36

So like for a character

11:38

who with a single minded obsession

11:40

for oil, I

11:42

feel like it's the perfect fit. Hey, it sounds like

11:44

it works. Yeah, no,

11:46

it's a real funny time. Especially

11:50

when he's fucking he's

11:52

like my he's like I would like

11:54

to turn into a car. And

11:56

then I have to flip brawn piloting

11:58

to turn into a car for the

12:00

other characters to drive around him. I'll

12:02

be pulling off that voice. That

12:04

is absolutely incredible. I

12:06

get I actually get this question

12:09

a lot. So basically The best way

12:11

I can describe it is as you inhale

12:13

you have to like close your vocal box

12:15

in a certain way that the vibration You

12:17

talk like this you talk like this like

12:20

that. Yeah, kind of you're kind of close

12:22

actually you're really close It's rather difficult to

12:24

do. Yes, yes, but like you got to

12:26

just kind of vibrate the fucking vocal chords

12:29

in a certain way and then that causes

12:31

the sound I couldn't do that for too

12:33

long you ever you ever hear a tenacious

12:35

D like Jack Black inward singing it's almost

12:38

like that I have not, but I do

12:40

know of Tennessee. Yeah, it's

12:42

a real funny band. You

12:44

remember back when I first

12:47

heard, uh... Okay, so this might

12:49

be dating myself. I'm a

12:51

rather young fellow, I'm

12:53

25. So growing up

12:55

with like early YouTube,

12:57

the majority of my

12:59

experience with YouTube at

13:01

the time was like

13:03

SpongeBob edited. It was just

13:05

these like they would just be a

13:08

person with like Windows Movie Maker or

13:10

whatever whatever software was out at the

13:12

time they take an episode of Spongebob

13:15

and then they'll just like Play

13:17

like instead like Like it'll be

13:19

Spongebob like talking to Patrick or whatever

13:21

and then all of a sudden it

13:23

just cuts to Jack Plack going fuck

13:25

you! I remember instead of whatever words

13:28

he was saying. Oh my goodness those

13:30

like was Like, my brain was

13:32

severely rotted as a child because

13:34

of those videos, but like, that

13:37

was my first exposure to Tenacious

13:39

D was just like, they used

13:41

a lot of clips from that

13:43

first album of theirs in the, in

13:46

the videos. And then later on

13:48

in life, when I actually listened

13:50

to the album for the first

13:52

time, I'm like, oh my goodness,

13:54

that's where these voices come from.

13:56

I didn't even realize it

13:58

was Jack Black. You're

14:02

a

14:04

little

14:06

bit

14:08

older

14:10

than I

14:12

am so

14:15

like have

14:18

you had

14:21

any Have you ever watched any

14:23

of these videos that I'm talking

14:25

about? Okay, so you know what

14:27

I'm talking about? Oh, I do.

14:29

Okay, wonderful. So we're on the same page

14:31

there. Just trying to remember some of

14:34

the more weird, fucked up things from

14:36

the past. I mean, I think the most

14:38

fucked up thing originally on... Do

14:40

you remember that weird car advert

14:42

that turned into a jump scare? What,

14:44

big Bill Hells? No, it was just

14:46

like a weird... It was just like

14:48

a car traveling down this scenic route...

14:51

Oh like when he

14:53

fucking like when the

14:55

car like roll like

14:57

barrel rolls into like

14:59

18 kids dude what

15:01

the fuck are you

15:03

watch? No! I'll send

15:06

you here at some

15:08

point it's I'll send

15:10

you that video that

15:13

I'm talking about. I

15:15

don't think that one's

15:18

that old. Since 2000, speeding

15:20

has killed a classroom of

15:22

our children. Yeah, like the

15:25

fuck, yeah. Don't speed or

15:27

else you might kill fucking

15:29

massacre a bunch of children

15:31

by accident. Yeah, I do

15:34

remember that. Big Bill Hells

15:36

is fucking huge, like, it's

15:38

like, fuck you Baltimore! If you

15:41

want to buy a car this

15:43

weekend, you can kiss my ass!

15:45

Bring your trade! Bring your time! Bring your

15:47

wine! Wheel, fuck! That's right, we'll fuck your

15:50

wife! Because it's Big Bill Hell! You're but

15:52

six ways from Sunday! Take a height! Took

15:54

Big Bill Hell! Home of challenge pissing! That's

15:56

right, challenge pissing! How does it work? If

15:58

you can piss six feet of the air...

16:00

Straight up and not get where

16:02

you get no down payment. Challenge

16:04

pissing. What the fuck? That just

16:07

is your show, isn't it? It's

16:09

a funny story. I actually, like,

16:11

I was inspired by this commercial.

16:13

Back in 2021, I made a

16:16

promo for my show that was

16:18

basically this word for word, except

16:20

swapping out. I'm like, fuck you,

16:22

podcast listener. If you're enjoying this

16:25

piece of shit, then why don't

16:27

you listen to the wizard's scroll?

16:29

And I'm like, if you can

16:32

make it past the five-minute mark

16:34

without trying to cancel me, you

16:36

can kiss my ass. Something like

16:38

that. Fuck you podcast enthusiasts! If

16:41

you're dumb enough to listen to

16:43

this shitty shit, you're a big

16:45

enough schmuck to come listen to

16:48

the wizard scroll. Foul language, graphic

16:50

nudity, skeleton genocide. If you think

16:52

you're gonna have a family-friendly time

16:54

listening to the wizard scroll, you

16:57

can kiss my ass. It's our

16:59

belief that you're such a stupid

17:01

motherfucker that you'll fall for this

17:03

bullshit, guaranteed. And if you find

17:06

a better show out there, go

17:08

shove it up... your ugly ass

17:10

do you remember solid fingers then

17:13

salad fingers yeah they're still active

17:15

too like there's new episodes that

17:17

come out like it was a

17:19

new one that came out like

17:22

this year that that shit's fucking

17:24

freaky yeah especially the newer ones

17:26

it's fucking fucking fuck yeah freaky's

17:28

the word well done though yeah

17:31

this is the weird it's like

17:33

hey there I'm sorry fingers I

17:38

like rusty spoons. I

17:40

like to touch them.

17:42

The feeling of rust

17:45

against my salad fingers

17:47

is almost augas meek.

17:49

It's just like really

17:52

off-putting, like the way

17:54

the guy speaks. Relaxing

17:57

car- Let's watch this.

17:59

Okay, well, it's probably

18:01

not actually scary anymore,

18:04

but you know. Okay,

18:06

so it's a car

18:08

driving down the road.

18:11

This nice green hill,

18:13

and it's a car

18:15

drive, it's overhead shot,

18:18

and then what do we

18:20

got? What? And then a

18:22

fucking zombie comes out and

18:24

screams in your face. And

18:26

it's like a German commercial

18:28

for like a coffee beverage of

18:30

some kind. Oh, I don't

18:32

think it was originally that. It's

18:35

just gonna be a lot

18:37

of clips. A lot of clips

18:39

in this one, I'm feeling. Hmm.

18:41

You want clips, do you know? Try

18:44

and think of the weird shit.

18:46

Have you watched Joe Harver?

18:48

Yes, I've seen a couple

18:50

of his. Like I've watched

18:52

some of his shit and

18:54

it's a... Real good stuff

18:57

like especially as like rotoscoped

18:59

cartoons and shit. That's so

19:01

fucking weird. Yeah, have you

19:03

ever seen the one about

19:05

curious George on his deathbed?

19:07

It's like I found all the

19:09

answers George Since

19:24

when? Like how long? Questions,

19:27

questions, questions.

19:29

This whole time you could

19:32

talk. Why didn't you

19:34

say something? I guess I

19:36

was waiting until I

19:38

had something to say. What

19:41

do you want to say?

19:43

Do you know what pizza

19:45

gate is? No. My preferred

19:47

one of those is

19:49

definitely the adventure

19:52

one. Oh yeah. You'll

19:56

see a rat! You

19:58

shall be exterminated! I

20:00

used to go past each

20:02

other. My first town, adventure,

20:04

awaits! Hazar! I used to

20:06

work with a guy and

20:08

anytime, uh... Big old fucking

20:11

estate, any time I used

20:13

to go past each other

20:15

or something, you just hear

20:17

one of us screaming, you

20:19

just hear one of us

20:21

screaming, you just hear one

20:24

of us screaming, We're just

20:26

going past each other. So

20:28

many weird fucking looks after

20:30

doing that. Worth it. Adventure

20:32

awaits. Hazar! I've seen my

20:35

town rat. Oh, he's evil

20:37

now. No, Joe Haver's great.

20:39

I heard he recently transition

20:41

from weekly skates to like,

20:43

monthly movies. Yeah, so like

20:45

basically like when everybody decided

20:48

to retire from YouTube, this

20:50

was like, he's like, I'm

20:52

making a switch. And I

20:54

feel like that's better for

20:56

him because he's making like

20:58

40 minute long videos every

21:01

month or something. Oh, I

21:03

know one. Have you heard

21:05

of Brandon Rogers? No. Yes,

21:07

I found one you don't

21:09

know. Okay, uh... Go to

21:12

ask, how did you come

21:14

up with the idea for

21:16

your show? Okay, yeah, that's

21:18

a good question. This is

21:20

an interview after all. Can't

21:22

just all be fucking clips

21:25

that we talk about. Yeah,

21:27

so yeah, so the Wizard's

21:29

Troll started as like a

21:31

little nugget of a kernel

21:33

of an idea when I

21:36

was back in high school.

21:38

I would listen to this

21:40

show called fantasy fiction, which

21:42

was basically two guys who

21:44

like just wrote fantasy stories

21:46

that are... A little similar

21:49

to what I do now,

21:51

maybe a little bit, a

21:53

little less polished, a little

21:55

like even more crass than

21:57

what I go for now.

22:00

And basically the premise is they're

22:02

going to write a story every other

22:04

week just to like entertain each other

22:06

and like keep up with each other

22:08

because one of them had recently

22:11

moved across the country. And so like

22:13

I was I was listen to this show

22:15

a lot and I was like oh this

22:17

is that was the podcast that got me

22:19

into fantasy as a genre. Whereas I had

22:21

no interest before I had tried reading

22:23

Lord of the Rings beforehand and I

22:25

just couldn't get into it. It's too

22:27

dry for me. When I was in

22:29

when I was in eighth grade I

22:32

tried reading Lord of the Rings and

22:34

I fucking hated it I like stopped

22:36

halfway through it was like this is

22:38

not for me and then after a

22:40

while listening to fantasy fiction I

22:42

was like okay this fantasy thing I

22:45

can get behind and all this

22:47

and long story short like like they

22:49

broke up and years later I

22:51

joined a creative writing class in

22:53

college. Still inspired by fantasy fiction.

22:55

I set out to write the

22:58

most fucking horrid fantasy story I

23:00

could for a grade I ended

23:02

up getting a hundred in that

23:04

class because I was the I

23:06

was like the one student who

23:08

actually tried to write something and

23:11

I Can't say that but like I was

23:13

one of the ones who tried

23:15

harder than the rest because like

23:17

the the the the final the

23:20

final assignment was a ten-page story.

23:22

I wrote 30 pages Oh, fucking.

23:24

And basically that story was my

23:26

original concept for The

23:29

Wizard Scroll, where like

23:31

after that class ended, I

23:33

got 100, I had this 30-page

23:35

story in hand. I'm like, what

23:37

if I just keep writing?

23:39

And just like build up to

23:42

it and just try to try

23:44

to get something out of this.

23:46

So I set out. All of basically

23:48

all of 2019 into the

23:50

early months of 2020. I just

23:52

wrote every single day for if

23:55

it was 40 minutes or 30

23:57

minutes at minimum or maybe

23:59

I get extra inspired. I want

24:01

to do three-hour writing session. Whatever

24:03

I'm able to do that day,

24:06

the main idea was to just

24:08

get my ass in the chair

24:10

and write something daily. And for

24:12

a year, I basically toiled in

24:14

silence. Nobody really knew what I

24:16

was up to. I'm like... I

24:18

was a senior in college at

24:20

this point, so I just kind

24:22

of checked out mentally, like instead

24:25

of actually listening to teachers and

24:27

lectures, I have my headphones in

24:29

listening to music writing fucking episodes.

24:31

I remember there was this one

24:33

episode in particular, I was like

24:35

in the middle of class, and

24:37

I am just trying like my

24:39

absolute hardest to not fucking... burst

24:42

out laughing in the middle of

24:44

class. Like I'm sure I got

24:46

a few weird looks that day.

24:48

Or it's just me like holding

24:50

back tears like. And so yeah

24:52

so essentially that's how the Wizard

24:54

Scroll came to be was I

24:56

just really like the idea of

24:59

writing like basically parody fantasy stories

25:01

and just like that's where I

25:03

got my start. And like after

25:05

the first season came out, I

25:07

was like, all right, you know

25:09

what? I'm gonna keep doing this.

25:11

And that's where the ideas just

25:13

kind of stem from every day

25:16

I'm sitting here. I'm bound to

25:18

find something in my in the

25:20

ether that's gonna that's gonna that's

25:22

gonna fucking be funny. Hopefully, someone

25:24

finds this funny other than myself.

25:26

And if not, fuck it. I

25:28

think this is hilarious. That's the

25:30

whole part of it. That's what

25:33

we need. That's the entire point

25:35

is to enjoy what you're doing

25:37

because if I didn't like what

25:39

I was doing I wouldn't be

25:41

doing it. Yeah. That's why like

25:43

when I said about redoing season

25:45

one, which the first time around

25:47

took me a year to write

25:50

it all and then four months

25:52

of recording editing and shit week

25:54

by week, it was it was

25:56

an experience. It was a learning

25:58

experience and it was. a solitary

26:00

one. Because I didn't really have

26:03

friends in the audio spheres yet.

26:05

I was just kind of doing

26:07

this for myself by myself.

26:09

And this time around, I was

26:11

like, fuck, I can't do that. Like,

26:13

that was, I don't know how I

26:15

managed to do that. It took me,

26:18

fucking, 16 months, but I did it.

26:20

I don't have 16 months this time.

26:22

So I'm gonna speed this up

26:24

a little bit. I'm gonna have

26:26

some friends join me along the

26:28

way. And so I had friends who

26:30

helped me write who like offered to

26:32

do voices for me as well And

26:34

that just made the whole thing so

26:36

much more fun and so much easier

26:38

to grind through Because then you have

26:41

like people to talk to and like

26:43

bounce ideas off of exactly so

26:45

like some of the best gags

26:47

this whole season were from other

26:49

people's ideas Like the fucking the

26:51

wizard scroll animated that I recently

26:53

released or it's like I'll give

26:56

you 20 US American dollars, please

26:58

I didn't come up with that. I

27:00

was my friend and he's like, what

27:02

if he says this? I was like,

27:04

that's so fucking stupid. I love

27:07

it. But it works. That's the

27:09

whole point. It works. Okay, so

27:11

you have a Brandon Rogers clip

27:13

here. Let me, you sent this a

27:15

little while ago. Let me check it

27:17

out. I say we've been British

27:20

for about seven years now

27:22

and a half. No, you're

27:24

just your standard everyday British

27:26

people. Yes. Darling. I... Has

27:28

been quite a gas. Yes,

27:31

hello, we're British. This strange

27:33

contraption appears to only come

27:35

in useful on two occasions.

27:37

Tea time and bath time

27:39

isn't punch line and the

27:42

other is American. I'm trying

27:44

to watch America's got talent

27:46

tour, dear. You guys are

27:48

not British. Okay, I

27:51

like that. Is this

27:53

like how your

27:55

everyday life is in

27:58

England? No. Like

28:00

we've been British for about

28:02

seven years and a half.

28:05

But you just decide to

28:07

transition one day. Oh, mate.

28:09

Honestly, if you try and

28:12

find his actual show for

28:14

this, it's actually surprisingly really

28:16

well thought out. Just that

28:19

30-second clip, I feel like

28:21

I got the main idea.

28:25

I found that got me

28:27

into this. Yeah. But you

28:29

know, he's the actual voice

28:31

of Blitso in Hell of

28:33

a Boss. I can't believe

28:35

it because I've never heard

28:37

of that before. Have you

28:39

not? No. I'm a... I'm

28:41

a fucking... I'm a baby.

28:43

I'm a spring chicken. You

28:45

gotta like... You gotta talk

28:47

to me in ways that

28:49

like... Like, like, I'm a

28:51

fucking child at this point

28:53

compared to you, like, you

28:55

gotta, like, like, Hal, have

28:57

you heard of fucking, uh,

28:59

I don't know. I was

29:01

trying to think of a

29:03

fucking reference that, but, like,

29:05

it would have been a

29:07

reference that I wouldn't have

29:09

known because I wasn't old

29:11

enough. Have you heard of,

29:13

fucking, uh, Joey? Do friends

29:15

spin off? God, that's crap.

29:17

I don't know. I remember

29:19

when I first found out

29:21

that existed. I was just

29:24

like, why? And then when

29:26

I found out it only

29:28

lasted for like one season

29:30

or some shows, like that

29:32

makes sense. That sounds terrible

29:34

and it and by the

29:36

looks of it, it was.

29:38

Oh, it was. That's 13

29:40

minutes. I don't expect you

29:42

to watch that now. Okay,

29:44

so this looks like has

29:46

been hotel. Is this the

29:48

same guy? Yeah. Okay, so

29:50

this is like the precursor

29:52

or like what's the deal

29:54

here? I'm not sure this

29:56

is the YouTube version. I

29:58

think has been started. off

30:00

on YouTube originally, but then

30:02

it obviously got bought up by

30:04

Amazon. I think, I think is in

30:07

that as well, but I can't tell

30:09

you what character because I have yet

30:11

to watch that. I think they're set

30:13

in the same universe in

30:15

quotations, but I mean, the

30:17

style looks almost identical.

30:20

So I'll give them that. They're

30:22

really like, like, it's a very

30:24

like, I haven't watched has been

30:26

hotel either. But like there's people who

30:28

fucking love it and there's people who

30:31

like think it's just meth and I

30:33

really I don't know enough about it

30:35

to really form an opinion is the

30:37

thing Oh, such a clutch off-season

30:39

pickup, Dave. I was worried

30:41

we'd bring back the same

30:43

team. I met those blackout

30:46

motorized shades. Blinds.com made it

30:48

crazy. Affordable to replace our

30:50

old blinds. Hard to install?

30:52

No, it was easy. I

30:54

installed. I installed. I installed.

30:56

I installed. I installed these

30:58

and then got some for

31:00

my mom. She talked to

31:02

a design consultant for

31:04

free and scheduled a

31:06

professional measure. Okay,

31:17

hot, yay or nay?

31:20

Hot? Yeah, sure, yeah,

31:22

yay. That's something I'm

31:25

into. I've actually been

31:27

cutting back on smoking

31:29

a little bit, but

31:32

yeah, it's still something

31:34

I enjoy every once

31:36

in a while now. It

31:39

used to be a

31:41

daily habit for me, which

31:43

was not healthy. It's

31:46

not like my brain wasn't really

31:48

like able to handle it and

31:50

now I'm weaning myself off

31:52

now so I'm like I'm down to

31:54

like once every three days I'll get

31:56

high and then I feel like that's

31:58

a much more manageable. And it's a

32:01

lot more like fun for me

32:03

because like when I get high

32:05

like it really hits You know,

32:07

so you fuckers have it lucky

32:09

over there. It's legal We have

32:11

I have a medical card. So

32:13

basically like it's technically legal But

32:15

like you have to come up

32:17

with a with a medical excuse

32:19

and have it be sufficient for

32:21

a doctor to say yeah, he

32:23

needs to smoke weed as well.

32:25

So tell me about Fucking pint

32:27

of cetuilu a little bit more

32:29

like what's your like what what

32:31

what what what was your deciding

32:34

factor for starting this whole project

32:36

with all your boys and your

32:38

your your lads and your

32:40

ladies so I was listening

32:42

to Arkham Files another podcast

32:44

they are an amazing cool

32:46

for theory podcast Alex the

32:48

what's a producer as it

32:50

were writes all of their

32:52

seasons, like the main seasons

32:54

he writes all of it

32:56

himself. Takes a few inspirations

32:59

here and there from certain

33:01

games, but most of it

33:03

is completely custom content. And

33:05

I'd been attempting Twitch a

33:07

couple years back. Yeah, but

33:09

I was that sad fucker

33:11

that attempted that. I can

33:13

admit it. And I met

33:15

everyone on there. I was

33:17

like, right. Actually apart

33:19

from carbon I know carbon from college.

33:21

Okay. And one day I was at

33:24

work and I was listening to it

33:26

and I was like, you know what?

33:28

I could do, yeah exactly, I could

33:30

fucking do this. Maybe not, obviously not

33:32

as good, not sounding as good, but

33:34

fuck it, I could try it. I

33:36

mean that's the most important thing. It's

33:38

like, you just like, I could do

33:40

this and then like, if you do

33:42

it do it enough, it starts to

33:44

sound way better, like once you actually

33:46

know what you actually know what you're

33:48

doing. Like you have to execute first

33:50

and then the skills will come later

33:52

because nobody's first fucking foray into anything

33:54

is ever any good. You don't fucking

33:56

pop out the womb painting like fucking

33:58

painting Picasso paintings. Like you gotta learn

34:00

how to do it first. But the

34:03

important thing is like you went

34:05

in there and you fucking did it.

34:07

And that's very commendable. It's a

34:10

lot more than I can say

34:12

about most other people who try

34:14

things. I mean, I rounded up a

34:16

crew from the people that I kind

34:18

of clumped with on Twitch. Cap,

34:21

Jay, Tuken, Josh, basically the

34:23

real people that we started

34:25

kind of. collaborating playing games

34:27

with we were on Discord

34:29

already and I just sent them

34:31

all the message one day I said fuck

34:34

it I'm gonna put this together

34:36

I've got the material I've

34:38

got the stuff we've all got

34:40

mics we've all got recording software

34:43

that's a plus shall we try

34:45

it definitely a plus having the

34:47

actual equipment I said I make

34:50

carbon a message I've known since

34:52

college like 2009 I said him

34:54

dude I know you've never really

34:56

played any games. You're funny

34:58

as fuck. I want you on. And

35:01

just kind of, season one

35:03

sucked. Audio-wise, it was crap.

35:05

It was absolutely abysmal. It's

35:07

been sent off to, well,

35:10

one of the friends that

35:12

I've met now doing this, Styles,

35:14

to attempt to make it sound

35:17

better. He's doing wonders with

35:19

it. He's actually working some...

35:21

Serious hardcore magic with a

35:24

fucking dirty MP3 so you know

35:26

so like you just have the

35:28

one MP3 you don't have like

35:30

the actual like Each individual track

35:33

anymore you just that's lost a

35:35

time now Yeah, basic yeah, that's

35:37

Usually how it goes soon as

35:39

it's done. It's converted into one

35:42

and that's it because I don't

35:44

have the space on the

35:46

computer to keep every individual

35:48

track. That's true I'm in a

35:50

very different spot, actually,

35:53

where... When I started out,

35:55

I still have fucking, like,

35:58

basically everything. From 2020

36:00

all the way up until now Somehow

36:02

it just so happened that the computer

36:05

I was using at the time just

36:07

had a fucking shit ton of storage

36:09

in it And I was just able

36:11

to keep downloading shit And then later

36:13

on I upgraded I have a surface

36:16

pro eight now that I fucking love

36:18

this thing especially for podcasting because it's

36:20

a third screen that I can like

36:22

look at and just have the script

36:24

on and shit while I'm standing up

36:27

But yes, I have I have like

36:29

a terabyte of storage on one drive

36:31

now So that's where I keep all

36:33

my shit now and I also have

36:35

a backup I have a backup External

36:38

drive just sitting here on my shelf

36:40

as well. So in case the EMP

36:42

blast fucking wipes all this out I'm

36:44

still like I it's not a clean

36:46

slate for me I still got a

36:48

little bit fingers cross nothing like that

36:51

happens. Yeah, so That's been instrumental in

36:53

helping me redo the first season was

36:55

having all of the like I can

36:57

just like put the same sound effects

36:59

in and the same music if there's

37:02

no change needed. And if I do

37:04

need to change it, I can just

37:06

fucking put new shit in. That is

37:08

incredibly lucky and very full thinking. I

37:10

had no idea that I would still

37:13

be like, I guess like when I

37:15

first started I figured I might still

37:17

be going, but there's really no way

37:19

you can tell. There's really no way

37:21

you can think that far ahead and

37:24

be like, I'll be. Working I'll be

37:26

doing this exact podcast in this exact

37:28

way for fucking time and memorial But

37:30

like I mean a lot of the

37:32

time these things just die out for

37:35

a lot of people Yeah, that's the

37:37

thing like it doesn't catch on people

37:39

like they see their numbers don't grow

37:41

and they're like Man, what's this for?

37:43

Why am I doing this if no

37:46

one's enjoying it? And then that's the

37:48

part where the person themselves making it

37:50

isn't enjoying it anymore. Like whether or

37:52

not they enjoyed it to start with

37:54

is irrelevant because now they're just focused

37:57

on fucking numbers watching the numbers go

37:59

up and the... feedback of others which

38:01

none of that should matter if you

38:03

really enjoy what you're doing and you

38:05

have the the financial funds to actually

38:07

produce what you're doing none of the

38:09

other stuff matters and especially like I

38:12

guess the biggest factor is time if

38:14

you have the time to do it

38:16

that's a point how long does it

38:18

take you then to edit from recording

38:20

to finish product how long does

38:23

it take you to make one

38:25

episode That's, it depends on how

38:27

you classify it. So let's say

38:29

hypothetically, the whole script is

38:31

done. I have everybody's lines

38:33

already recorded and all that's

38:35

left for me to do

38:37

is to record my stuff,

38:40

edit everything, put it all together,

38:42

and then ship it out. That would

38:44

take me, I'd like to say maybe three

38:46

days. Wow. That's pretty grand quick. All

38:48

right, what about including writing though?

38:50

Including writing, that goes up by

38:52

a whole lot. So if I'm

38:54

starting from a fresh slate, it would

38:57

probably take me about three weeks to

38:59

write an episode. And then, of course,

39:01

there's the issue of like having

39:03

other people record their lines, like

39:05

some people are really good with

39:07

getting me their lines on time,

39:10

some people... have lives, have kids,

39:12

have whatever's going on, whatever issue.

39:14

And obviously I'm not gonna like

39:16

be mad at them for having

39:18

a family emergency. So like, okay,

39:20

whatever, how long, however long it

39:22

takes, it's gonna be worth the

39:24

weight. I already know that. So

39:26

there's no issue there. It's just

39:29

like, it's a bottleneck that like I

39:31

have no control over. So I just

39:33

like to take care of as absolutely

39:35

as much as I can do myself

39:38

without like. without the bottleneck and

39:40

just like work around that as

39:42

much as I can and that's usually

39:44

how I like to operate

39:46

now. But like my production cycle

39:49

is mostly stems from how

39:51

I started which was I would do

39:53

one of these a week. I had all

39:56

16 of the episodes written but

39:58

what I would do is I would record

40:00

it, edit, produce, and then publish over

40:02

a one week span. And so what

40:05

I would usually do is Mondays, the

40:07

episode would go out, Tuesday, Wednesday, I

40:09

would take a break. Maybe Wednesday, afternoon,

40:11

or Thursday morning, I would start. I

40:14

would record everything that first day. Then

40:16

I would, like the next day, I

40:18

would add the music. Then the following

40:21

day, I would add the sound effects

40:23

and like tweak it a little bit.

40:25

And that's three days right there. And

40:27

so maybe a fourth day if it's

40:30

like an especially... especially taxing episode with

40:32

a lot going on, might take an

40:34

extra day. So three, four days is

40:36

usually my average for when everything is,

40:39

when everything is going right and there's

40:41

nothing left for anyone else to do

40:43

for me, that's usually the amount of

40:45

time it takes. Which for a show

40:48

of my caliber, like that seems like

40:50

it's not, like it seems like a

40:52

lot or not a lot, right? Like.

40:55

How long, like if you were to

40:57

undergo the same kind of thing that

40:59

I'm doing, how long do you think

41:01

it would take you? Completely writing a

41:04

script? Like, let's say hypothetically, the script

41:06

is already written, every other character's voice

41:08

is already there, and it's just up

41:10

to you to do all the rest

41:13

of the work yourself. Like, how long

41:15

do you think that would take you?

41:17

How long of an audio are we

41:20

talking about? Let's say, like, it's a

41:22

half hour episode. That's usually how long

41:24

mine are. Which is

41:26

a bit shorter for than than you're

41:29

acting in your in your episodes I'm

41:31

half a week I think maybe yeah,

41:33

that's about the same amount of time

41:35

that I take I managed to get

41:38

out to we record in batches of

41:40

two Mm and it takes about a

41:42

week to get those Done okay Yeah,

41:44

but that's a long fucking episode though

41:47

like those those guys go like up

41:49

to an hour hour and a half

41:51

Oh yeah, they're both an hour. Standard,

41:53

we used to be two hours. Oh

41:56

my. We noticed that the audience retention

41:58

was... Who's listening to two hours of

42:00

this guy with a fucking iPhone 4

42:02

fucking holed up to his face? Yeah,

42:05

no. That makes sense. So we cut

42:07

him down to an hour to make

42:09

A, editing easier and B, just to

42:11

see if we can pick up attention

42:14

it has. It's improved massively. That's really

42:16

good that you figured that out. Well,

42:18

it's not, it wasn't that hard to

42:20

work out. It was just, you watched

42:23

that a line go across of listening,

42:25

listening, listening, listening, and given up. Yep.

42:27

It's like, okay, to be fair, I

42:29

can't blame people for it as I

42:32

say, season one was terrible. Yeah, season

42:34

two was a bit better. I had

42:36

the same exact issue where my season

42:38

one, I was proud of it at

42:41

the time, but then listening back to

42:43

it, like, even like when I was

42:45

only halfway done with season two, listening

42:47

back to season one. especially the earlier

42:50

ones where I didn't really know how

42:52

to like adjust my microphone sensitivity or

42:54

anything. I was literally whispering into the

42:56

mic just to make it so it

42:59

wouldn't clip the audio kind of deal.

43:01

So it was just like the audio

43:03

quality was not that great to say

43:05

the least I had a blue snowball

43:08

ice this $50 little fucking nugget. Oh,

43:10

dude, that's awesome. Don't knock the nugget.

43:12

For what? I was able to do

43:14

a lot with that thing. Don't get

43:17

me wrong. But when you upgrade to

43:19

a fucking sure M7, that thing looks

43:21

like a fucking piece of shit. Not

43:23

gonna lie. Am I allowed to swear

43:26

on your show or are you going

43:28

to censor it? Or are we swearing?

43:30

Oh, that's true. Okay. But anyway, yes,

43:32

spoiler in that in one of our

43:35

latest episodes we all showed tortureable of

43:37

our players That's good. Yeah, I love

43:39

that. That's awesome. So swear away. We

43:41

don't care I have an episode where

43:44

the sexual acts in the episode are

43:46

so Disgusting that even I the narrator

43:48

pass out and I have to get

43:50

a backup narrator to describe what happens

43:53

That was one of the best fucking

43:55

gags of the whole season where fucking,

43:57

my friend Kier comes in, he's like,

43:59

it was at this point in the

44:02

story, where unsavory sights and smells of

44:04

the setting, cause the narrator to pass

44:06

out. So we hired a mime to

44:08

interpret the rest of it. Oh, I

44:11

remember that, yeah. Zefucked. And he was

44:13

both the narrator and the mind for

44:15

that. Like, my friend was the one

44:17

who came up with that whole thing.

44:20

And then when he said that, I

44:22

was like, this is so fucking stupid,

44:24

I love it. And I know exactly

44:26

who's gonna do it too. Like, it

44:29

was at that moment where I was

44:31

like, okay, well, clearly having help to

44:33

help write these is the play. Because

44:35

this is so much better than anything

44:38

I could have come up with on

44:40

my own. Well, you do need that

44:42

second mind to bounce off. I like

44:44

the team of three. It's like a

44:47

small elite team. Obviously it's me sitting

44:49

there typing all this shit down, doing

44:51

like the lion's share of the work.

44:53

But that's just how I roll. Like

44:56

this is my show. I'm gonna, obviously

44:58

I'm not gonna like, can you write

45:00

a scene for me and have it

45:02

on my desk by tomorrow 7am collated?

45:05

Like that's not how I roll. This

45:07

is my show. I'm in the I'm

45:09

in the trenches with them like I'm

45:11

just trying to make the process Easier

45:14

for me rather than burdening others, you

45:16

know, like I'm like this is just

45:18

my friends are here with me giving

45:20

me funny ideas to write down So

45:23

that's where we differ so much because

45:25

ours is all just pure improv Yeah,

45:27

I've done a little improv in my

45:29

day as well. I've had a few

45:32

one of my episodes is like I

45:34

just decided hey, you know what? You

45:36

know what? In lieu of writing a

45:38

script, I'm just going to have two

45:41

of my friends come on and we're

45:43

going to improv this dungeon that we're

45:45

in. And then I like pull out

45:47

a fucking, I go on, I go

45:50

on fucking Google and I'm like, let

45:52

me, let me roll a die.net. And

45:54

I'm like, okay, well, Kristall rolled a

45:56

four. So she attacks the fucking monster

45:59

and it's like we're all of a

46:01

sudden we're playing We're playing an RPG

46:03

all of a sudden, but it's just

46:05

like a D6 It's the most fucking

46:08

rudimentary ash shit like even easier than

46:10

the then the the space king's system.

46:12

You know what? I'm gonna have to

46:14

run you a game at some point.

46:17

Oh, I would love to like what

46:19

the so like what what game do

46:21

you play? What's your game of choice

46:23

for this for your for your for

46:26

your podcast? I mean we do a

46:28

lot Medium multiple so so it's hard

46:30

to pinpoint one like like give name

46:32

a few of them like which ones

46:35

have you liked which ones have you

46:37

seen like giving you a lot like

46:39

which ones have you had the most

46:41

fun with which ones have like are

46:44

fun for listeners to listen to like

46:46

what do you got because you're you

46:48

know a lot more about this than

46:50

I do I just want to pick

46:53

your brain a little bit. Hmm. Mm.

46:55

M. D. Was. Probably the first one

46:57

that we branched out more into a

46:59

bit more improv. I got a little

47:02

bit more... I was very much by

47:04

the book. Read it all, try to

47:06

work it out by that. So it

47:08

felt a bit more on-rail. D&D Tuken,

47:11

he took over for that season and

47:13

he did an incredible job letting us

47:15

just completely fuck with it. So that

47:17

was quite a bit of fun. I

47:20

mean, we're supposed to have taken this

47:22

wizard guy alive. Instead, we break in

47:24

through the secret passageway, tackle him to

47:26

the floor and stick a dick through

47:29

his ear. Who's Dick? Like, was it

47:31

one of your player characters, Dick? It

47:33

was an obsidian penis. Detached. Stuck it

47:35

straight through his ear. Like a fucking

47:38

Gorkin came and turned a guy to

47:40

stone. You ripped the dick off of

47:42

the statue and just shove it into

47:44

the guy's ear. I love it. I

47:47

love the energy in there. Fall out.

47:50

Caps running that He's got

47:52

a few modules he's working

47:54

from but is very much

47:56

kind of improvvy as well

47:58

I think, well, some of

48:00

the weird shit we've done

48:03

in that, there's been so

48:05

much... I mean, we had

48:07

an old lady orgasm herself

48:09

to death over cheese. I'll

48:11

have what she's having. That's

48:13

a spoiler for an episode

48:15

or two. I'll have what

48:17

she's having. If someone made

48:19

that joke, I wouldn't be

48:21

surprised. Actually? I don't think

48:23

we did. Oh my goodness,

48:25

but you should add me

48:27

in there. Oh, hell yeah.

48:29

I'll be sin man, I'll

48:31

be like, I'll have what

48:33

she's having. And then you'll

48:35

hear like a, hold on,

48:38

hold on, hold on, I'll,

48:40

I'm prepared. Hold on. I

48:42

fucking love oil. Oh, the

48:44

classic discord one. We do

48:46

use that. If, actually, I'll

48:48

tell you, after this, come

48:50

into our chat and I'll

48:52

play you some of the

48:54

soundboard shit we have in

48:56

there. Oh my God. I

48:58

fucking love, like, like, I

49:00

can play you some of

49:02

the ones that I have,

49:04

And we'll rank them, I

49:06

guess. That'll be our next

49:08

segment here. So I guess

49:10

I'll add these in post

49:13

because I'll have to edit

49:15

these into the actual episode,

49:17

but here we go one

49:19

at a time. That's a

49:21

classic. You love that one.

49:23

And then here's a cock.

49:25

That's from a skid I

49:27

did with my friend called

49:29

Your Cox trending on Twitter.

49:31

where he's like dude your

49:33

cock's trending on Twitter and

49:35

then he goes outside to

49:37

his chicken coop and his

49:39

rooster is like all over

49:41

Twitter and then the rooster

49:43

just looks at the camera

49:45

he just says cock and

49:47

that's all he says and

49:50

next we have this one

49:52

I fucking love oil. There

49:54

it is. That's a classic

49:56

one. So one of the

49:58

running gags of this of

50:00

the show now I guess

50:02

is uh it's just like

50:04

if a character gets stabbed

50:06

that is bleeding out and

50:08

dying on the floor they'll

50:10

just repeatedly say I'm dying

50:12

ah I'm dying ah just

50:14

way longer than they should

50:16

actually stay alive for yeah

50:18

One day when I was

50:20

recording, I was just making

50:22

myself laugh. I'm like, hey,

50:25

I'm dying here. And then

50:27

the last one we have

50:29

is this one, of course.

50:31

Knights! Which is, that's the

50:33

fucking, uh, basic, it's the

50:35

audio sting that plays after

50:37

every episode of Wizard Scroll

50:39

Knights, which is my, my

50:41

side show with all the,

50:43

with this interview among many

50:45

other things in it. There

50:47

you go. I've sent you

50:49

a few of our ones.

50:51

You can have a listen

50:53

to those. Oh my goodness.

50:55

Two can confession that way.

50:57

Let's hear. And that's how

51:00

I found out I liked

51:02

furry porn. I love that.

51:04

That's fucking. Just like play

51:06

that randomly in the middle

51:08

of a fucking call. We

51:10

do. Take a shit that

51:12

wave. I love these titles.

51:14

Wennigan, would you like to

51:16

take a shit? Would you

51:18

like to take a shit?

51:20

I can imagine, like, the

51:22

context of that. It's like,

51:24

roll, roll a D20 for

51:26

shit. Well, he completely misspoke,

51:28

because it's not what he

51:30

was trying to say. Just,

51:32

everyone was just like, wait,

51:34

did you actually just ask

51:37

him to take the shit?

51:39

I roll the one, oh

51:41

no, I'm constipated, I failed.

51:44

Gallants upon gallons of semen. Oh,

51:46

semen dot wave is I think

51:48

my favorite of the bunch. Gallants

51:51

upon gallons. Gallants upon gallons. Oh,

51:53

man. I was like that. In

51:55

the actual discourse, there's a few.

51:58

more there's... Oh I'll have to

52:00

check that out in a little

52:02

bit. Oh that's brilliant. Is the

52:05

old put a finger in, put

52:07

it in deep? See the best

52:10

thing about this is because I

52:12

run a secondary computer at times

52:14

to basically encase our audio fucks

52:17

which it has done a few

52:19

times. So half the time I

52:21

start that early and they don't

52:24

realize I'm recording half the shit

52:26

they say. I mean I could

52:28

just pop in at times and

52:31

I'll just have my audio going

52:33

just in case because it's just

52:36

funny to catch them unaware. Some

52:38

of it I can't play. Yeah

52:40

for obvious reasons but that stays

52:43

in the vault in case like

52:45

one of them does you dirty

52:47

and you have to cancel them

52:50

that's when you whip that out.

52:52

There's one I can't play for

52:54

people. China dot

52:57

wave. I won't play that one

52:59

on the show, but it's pretty

53:01

good too. Funny enough, I didn't

53:03

actually cut it. He blessed it

53:05

in. Yeah, I completely forgot to

53:07

cut it. That's beautiful. I love

53:09

that. So far, no problems. Okay,

53:12

that's good. Okay, so is there...

53:14

Anything else you wanted to discuss?

53:16

Because we've gone for almost an

53:18

hour here. I feel like this

53:20

is usually as bad as long

53:22

as I Like the average length

53:24

of an episode for me. So

53:27

Do you have any any special

53:29

like any like final remarks or

53:31

any any any topics that we

53:33

didn't touch on that you wanted

53:35

to bring up? Oh, there's probably

53:37

plenty of we can talk about

53:39

but We just say it for

53:41

another time if you want I

53:44

think the one thing if I'm

53:46

gonna If I have to give

53:48

one partial bit of wisdom or

53:50

something, do it for the fun

53:52

of it. Yes. Don't expect to

53:54

become rich off of doing it.

53:56

Right, yeah, I'm not a fucking

53:59

woe. I was fortunate enough

54:01

to get added to Fable and

54:03

Folly. I haven't really seen much

54:05

of the ad revenue in terms

54:07

of like, but I know it's

54:09

there because the ads do play

54:11

and the downloads have been increasing.

54:13

So I hope at some point

54:15

they decide to, you know, like,

54:17

like, like, like, give me a

54:19

fucking quarter or something, because that

54:21

would be cool. I mean. I

54:23

don't have to pay for hosting,

54:26

so that's a plus. I don't

54:28

have to pay dues or anything

54:30

to be on the network, so

54:32

that's another plus. My old network

54:34

that I was on called Fandon

54:36

Lim, I had to pay $10

54:38

a month to be part of

54:40

the network, and then it would

54:42

be like automated PayPal payments, and

54:44

then like when the month was

54:46

up, I would get like, like,

54:48

34 cents and ad revenue back,

54:50

and then like I would give

54:52

the guy $10. nine dollar fucking

54:54

86 cent per month operation so

54:56

I'm making more than that so

54:58

I can say with confidence that

55:00

this was definitely an upgrade and

55:02

plus that network is defunct now

55:05

and they're officially shut closing doors

55:07

in July which this episode will

55:09

probably be out after that because

55:11

I'm just fucking so far ahead

55:13

in terms of episodes so this

55:15

This won't be out for a

55:17

while. I'm sure your cut will

55:19

probably be out earlier. We can

55:21

work on releasing it the same

55:23

time. Schedule it. You will wait

55:25

till fucking August to release it.

55:27

I've done longer. Yeah. I have

55:29

like a patron exclusive episode that

55:31

I did where I recorded it

55:33

back in like 2022. And then

55:35

it didn't come out on my

55:37

Patreon until 2024. So I guess

55:39

that's the longest I've really like

55:41

held something in the vault for.

55:44

Wow. but it was just like

55:46

I wasn't able to finish it

55:48

and so it was part one

55:50

and then part two just never

55:52

happened but there's so many funny

55:54

bits in this it would be

55:56

a crime for it to not

55:58

be listen to by somebody. Because

56:00

I remember editing it like months

56:02

later after the fact and just

56:04

fucking crying. It was like it's

56:06

just like one character just gets

56:08

roasted for two minutes straight for

56:10

no reason. I'm just like oh

56:12

you fucking like the I guess

56:14

the plot was like he goes

56:16

to the future this one guy

56:18

goes to the future and then

56:20

like everybody's just like oh you

56:23

passed as bitch fuck you fucking

56:25

piece of past shit. I... Look

56:27

at what you're wearing, these antique

56:29

clothing! What is that, what is

56:31

that, a suit? What are you,

56:33

a fucking... a businessman from 2022?

56:35

What the fuck is this? It's

56:37

vintage. That's a great answer. Everyone

56:39

knows that you gotta wear your

56:41

underwear on the outside of the

56:43

pants. That is the fashion of

56:45

the day. It is the future

56:47

after all. That doesn't... Is your

56:49

underwear even chrome? Why yes it

56:51

is. I was talking to Daniel.

56:53

I... I... I... I... That doesn't

56:55

sound very comfortable, guys. Ah... I

56:57

mean... Are you sure everyone's doing

56:59

it? Oh, everyone's doing it. Oh

57:02

my god. You fucking loser? Fuck

57:04

you. Did we just turn this

57:06

into roasting Daniel for his outfit?

57:08

Damn Daniel, what are those? What

57:10

the fuck are those? Wait, doing

57:12

a robot voice. Damn, Daniel. What

57:14

the fuck are those? How do

57:16

you guys tell my name? I

57:18

don't think this is tomorrow guys.

57:20

Dude, literally does he lands? And

57:22

like the first thing is just

57:24

a robot being like, damn Daniel,

57:26

what are those? Yeah, so stuff

57:28

like that. Like I just love

57:30

the off the cuff nature of

57:32

the fucking improv stuff. It's definitely

57:34

like ads, it breathes new life

57:36

into it. Because like you can

57:38

go by a script, but like.

57:41

When you're in the moment, you

57:43

can come up with... something that's

57:45

funnier than on the page, I'll

57:47

encourage that of all my actors.

57:49

Like if you have something that's

57:51

funnier than what I wrote down,

57:53

by all means, let it loose,

57:55

let it loose, whether I use

57:57

it or not, that's a different

57:59

debate. But like if it'll make

58:01

me laugh, that's still a fun

58:03

time for me in the editing

58:05

process, in the chair. Basically go

58:07

quicker as well. Nine times out

58:09

of 10, it is a better

58:11

line, it is a better line

58:13

in general. It is a better

58:15

line, like. whole thing going on

58:17

over there like you have like

58:20

this whole community you have like

58:22

I just love what we met

58:24

on Twitter like it just so

58:26

happened I had posted the fucking

58:28

like one of the clips on

58:30

Twitter and you're like oh this

58:32

looks interesting I'll check this out

58:34

and then like later on you're

58:36

like oh this is fucking awesome

58:38

I love this and now we're

58:40

just talking now we're buds I

58:42

love that like that's what this

58:44

is all about a lot of

58:46

the time it's that easy just

58:48

to start talking to talking to

58:50

people to people just like oh

58:52

that could do interesting It is

58:54

fucking interesting. They need to know

58:56

it's interesting. That's how pretty much

58:59

everyone in our Discord, that's any

59:01

of the other podcasters. That's just

59:03

how we went. It's just like,

59:05

I like your shit. You like

59:07

our shit? Let's start talking. Yeah,

59:09

you know what? That's where some

59:11

of my best friends now are

59:13

from. Like... Yeah, Skyler from Omega

59:15

Star 7, we were talking about

59:17

him a little bit earlier. I

59:19

just like cannot stop like singing

59:21

his praises on this show that

59:23

he doesn't listen to. But like

59:25

it's true, like I learned so

59:27

much from him in terms of

59:29

like how to do an audio

59:31

drama, the proper equipment, the proper

59:33

software, because I know you're still

59:35

on audacity as well, is that

59:38

true? For the allegations true? Yeah,

59:40

fucking like I know we spoke

59:42

a little bit a couple days

59:44

ago I think about about reaper

59:46

and the advantages like I cannot

59:48

recommend it enough like the sooner

59:50

you make the switch the better

59:52

like it It's just so like,

59:54

it is like, I understand, like

59:56

that, I was feeling that exact

59:58

same way, that, uh, like that,

1:00:00

I had that exact thought, but

1:00:02

it is just like, like, it's,

1:00:04

like, I don't know how to

1:00:06

describe it, it's just like, it

1:00:08

works, it doesn't crash as much,

1:00:10

it's crashed on me a handful

1:00:12

of times, but that was, that

1:00:14

was shit, but it was my

1:00:17

own fault, I've never had a

1:00:19

dusty crash, it has crashed, it

1:00:21

has crashed. Audacity is fucking trash,

1:00:23

It's fine for what it is.

1:00:25

I still use it from time

1:00:27

to time. I still have it

1:00:29

down here on my taskbar next

1:00:31

to Reaper. Because like just in

1:00:33

case I need to record computer

1:00:35

audio, I'll just open up Audacity

1:00:37

and do it there. Like I'm

1:00:39

sure Reaper has that functionality too

1:00:41

and I just never figured it

1:00:43

out here. So Audacity is safe

1:00:45

for now. Have you ever done

1:00:47

that on audacity? Have you ever

1:00:49

recorded your computer audio with that?

1:00:51

Oh yeah. So, when I used

1:00:53

to do sound effects for season

1:00:56

two, I did not realize that

1:00:58

the program we used you could

1:01:00

just drag and drop it. So

1:01:02

I used to sit there for

1:01:04

up to half an hour sometimes

1:01:06

recording various sounds. Which I could

1:01:08

have then just dragged and fuck

1:01:10

it. As soon as I got

1:01:12

told, oh you can do that.

1:01:14

I was like, wait, wait what?

1:01:16

Yeah, just drag and drop it,

1:01:18

look. Like the software that you're

1:01:20

paying for like doesn't have this

1:01:22

functionality that'd be kind of sad

1:01:24

I'm so glad you figured that

1:01:26

out You figured out a different

1:01:28

roundabout way instead and that's commendable

1:01:30

like back when I first started

1:01:32

with audacity I Literally didn't know

1:01:35

that you could drag tracks back

1:01:37

and forth Like what I would

1:01:39

do is I would copy blank

1:01:41

space and paste it in order

1:01:43

to move tracks around Wow It

1:01:45

was bad like for the first

1:01:47

five weeks of Wizard Scroll season

1:01:49

one like I legitimately didn't know

1:01:51

that you could like Drag and

1:01:53

move things It was the issue

1:01:55

like I was like there's gotta

1:01:57

be an easier way. Lo and

1:01:59

behold, there is. All you gotta

1:02:01

do is click this one button

1:02:03

and then you're able to drag

1:02:05

and drop shit. But yeah, Reaper

1:02:07

is like, like the training wheels

1:02:09

are off. This is the software

1:02:11

that professionals use. I've heard that

1:02:14

recent updates to audacity have given

1:02:16

it plug-ins as well. Is that

1:02:18

true? Yeah, actually we use, I'm

1:02:20

sure used to use, I don't

1:02:22

need anymore because I realize they're

1:02:24

jank, but you can get... W.A.

1:02:26

Productions, all of their plugins work

1:02:28

with it. I think there's a

1:02:30

couple others work with it. I've

1:02:32

not checked them all. But again,

1:02:34

it's, they work as they should

1:02:36

do. So you do get that

1:02:38

clash of interfaces with audacity's basic

1:02:40

bitch and some professional made plug

1:02:42

in. It did looks janky as

1:02:44

far, but it works. Because I

1:02:46

know like back when I was

1:02:48

like first made the switch, like

1:02:50

back in. March, April of 2022.

1:02:53

Audacity wasn't there yet. Like version

1:02:55

3.0 had just come out. I

1:02:57

was losing hours of work basically

1:02:59

every time I tried to edit

1:03:01

an episode. Like it would just

1:03:03

crash for no fucking reason. And

1:03:05

I was on my last fucking,

1:03:07

it was on the last straw

1:03:09

basically. And then I was like,

1:03:11

hey, wait, these, I just got

1:03:13

an email from whatever service. It

1:03:15

was like, Waves is the name

1:03:17

of the company, I guess they.

1:03:19

They're like, like, these, these plugins

1:03:21

are on sale. I was like,

1:03:23

oh shit, there's, there's a sale

1:03:25

on plugins. I can save so

1:03:27

much if I buy these plugins

1:03:29

and, and then, like, it didn't

1:03:32

occur to me until after I

1:03:34

had bought all these fucking plugins,

1:03:36

that audacity doesn't do that? It

1:03:38

was like, fuck, now I gotta,

1:03:40

I gotta find a different software

1:03:42

now. I tried toy with Ableton

1:03:44

a little bit, have you ever

1:03:46

heard of that one? Have you

1:03:48

ever heard of that one? Like

1:03:50

I have a keyboard that I

1:03:52

used to use a lot that

1:03:54

was... Like, like, Ableton is like,

1:03:56

the software that, like, it has

1:03:58

a bunch of mini instruments in

1:04:00

it, and, like, you can use

1:04:02

it to make loops and tracks,

1:04:04

and, like, music. Not what, not

1:04:06

really what I know how to

1:04:08

do. It's out of my ken,

1:04:11

really. And then after toying around

1:04:13

with Ableton for all of five

1:04:15

minutes and not knowing how to

1:04:17

do it, I was like, hey,

1:04:19

you know what, Skyler uses Reeper,

1:04:21

he's, he's a, he's a music

1:04:23

man, he has plug-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a- Yeah, if

1:04:25

it works, it works. Yeah, so

1:04:27

that's the... It was just, yeah,

1:04:29

but like, it's just like, you

1:04:31

know, like when you're in audacity

1:04:33

and you gotta apply the same

1:04:35

effect to each individual track, right?

1:04:37

Each individual clip. What you do

1:04:39

in Reaper is there's like this

1:04:41

little button called FX on the

1:04:43

side next to the track You

1:04:45

just click that you you load

1:04:47

your you load your fucking sound

1:04:50

effects into that and then it

1:04:52

just applies all of the fucking

1:04:54

changes Automatically across the entire like

1:04:56

length of your project. Yeah, you

1:04:58

can do that Really? Yeah, audacity's

1:05:00

fucking has ups now. I didn't

1:05:02

realize that they like actually like

1:05:04

are decent now But back when

1:05:06

I had audacity, this shit was

1:05:08

like fucking a caveman banging two

1:05:10

rocks together. And then Skyler shows

1:05:12

up with the fucking with fire

1:05:14

for the first time and my

1:05:16

eyeballs explode with awe and wonder

1:05:18

at this software that can do

1:05:20

so much cool stuff. Yeah, I

1:05:22

mean, you can highlight multiple tracks

1:05:24

and apply it that way or

1:05:26

if you go into the... Audio

1:05:29

that you want the effects to

1:05:31

be applied on if you want

1:05:33

to have the entire thing on

1:05:35

all of them Then you just

1:05:37

add the effects in there's a

1:05:39

little button that actually just says

1:05:41

effects and you can let me

1:05:43

ask you this So when you're

1:05:45

in there Can you like okay?

1:05:47

Let's say you add your compressor

1:05:49

and then you do your normalizer

1:05:51

and then you and then like

1:05:53

later you're like, oh fuck, I

1:05:55

should have done the normalizing first

1:05:57

or whatever, would you be able

1:05:59

to change the order of the

1:06:01

effects as they're applied retroactively in

1:06:03

audacity? Um, hmm. I'm not sure

1:06:05

if you can once you've done

1:06:08

it like through the main, the

1:06:10

main channel, if you're doing it

1:06:12

to all of it, because once

1:06:14

it's applied, it's applied, you can...

1:06:16

Oh, that's the main thing with

1:06:18

Reeper. You can like, let's say,

1:06:20

like, oh, I need to apply

1:06:22

a Reverb effect, but I want

1:06:24

it to be before everything else,

1:06:26

so it's like, it doesn't sound

1:06:28

all fucky. Let me just add

1:06:30

this Reverb, put it in the

1:06:32

beginning of this list of effects

1:06:34

here, and it'll apply that first,

1:06:36

and then everything else. Like, hours

1:06:38

later. It could save so much,

1:06:40

save so much time like version

1:06:42

control and shit, it's just so

1:06:44

much easier of a system. I'm

1:06:47

sure audacity maybe one day will

1:06:49

get there, they might catch up

1:06:51

with the technology that already exists

1:06:53

in Reaper for years. But that's

1:06:55

just something to consider. It might

1:06:57

do it, I'm just very basic

1:06:59

at how I edit. Yeah. I

1:07:01

mean we all have our own

1:07:03

methods. We all have our own,

1:07:05

I remember, like there was a

1:07:07

couple times where I was in

1:07:09

the, I was, I was, to

1:07:11

keep talking about this guy you

1:07:13

don't know, but I was in

1:07:15

the, like, helping, like, basically, Skyler

1:07:17

wanted to show me basically his,

1:07:19

like, his entire project file. So

1:07:21

he zoomed out. This man has

1:07:23

fucking 76 individual audio tracks with

1:07:26

all this shit, and I'm like,

1:07:28

like, like why, how, this is

1:07:30

fucking ridiculous, but that works for

1:07:32

him. And you know what you

1:07:34

have a system that works for

1:07:36

you I have a system that

1:07:38

works for me and then like

1:07:40

if we were to Freaky Friday

1:07:42

and I had to make your

1:07:44

show and you had to make

1:07:46

mine I'm sure that you would

1:07:48

apply your tricks of the trade

1:07:50

into doing what I do and

1:07:52

I would and likewise I would

1:07:54

download Reaper on your computer. and

1:07:56

just like completely change up your

1:07:58

entire thing as well. There's an

1:08:00

idea. It's just like we're all

1:08:02

brought up differently. I'm down if

1:08:05

you are for trying that. What,

1:08:07

the Freaky Friday? Yeah. I just

1:08:09

live your life for a day.

1:08:11

Not that, not that intense. Yeah,

1:08:13

just like, yeah, Chris, here's all,

1:08:15

here's my fucking hours of audio.

1:08:17

Can you make an episode for

1:08:19

me? Oh, I mean... Yeah, I

1:08:21

could give you a vocal track.

1:08:23

Obviously, I wouldn't say we use

1:08:25

this for our actual episodes. But,

1:08:27

like, it'd be interesting to find

1:08:29

out, yeah. Well, I'm down if

1:08:31

you are at some point. Yeah,

1:08:33

I'm down, like, yeah, we can

1:08:35

just exchange, like, like, like, like,

1:08:37

like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:08:39

like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:08:41

like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:08:44

like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:08:46

like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:08:48

like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:08:50

like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:08:52

like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:08:54

like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:08:56

like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:08:58

like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:09:00

like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:09:02

like, like, like, like And then

1:09:04

we just like take a screenshot

1:09:06

at the end and we'll just

1:09:08

see what's different, what's not, and

1:09:10

then how it sounds obviously. Yeah,

1:09:12

fuck it, I'm down for that.

1:09:14

So is it like we're gonna

1:09:16

use the same audio or do

1:09:18

you want to like I give

1:09:20

you some audio and then you

1:09:23

give me some from your sphere?

1:09:25

Or should we collaborate on a

1:09:27

on a skit? I mean, I'm

1:09:29

down for that as well. Let's

1:09:31

just do that right now, fuck

1:09:33

it, we do it live. Okay,

1:09:35

so let's say we're at the

1:09:37

fucking, we're at the, we're at

1:09:39

Best Buy. You're the, you're the

1:09:41

fucking, you're the customer service guy.

1:09:43

And then I'm coming in with

1:09:45

the faulty product that you had

1:09:47

sold me. That's our skit, you

1:09:49

ready? Yeah, go for it. All

1:09:51

right, okay. Excuse me, sir. Let

1:09:53

me read your name tag there,

1:09:55

James, if that is your real

1:09:57

name. Let me tell you, I

1:09:59

just purchased this fucking thousand dollar

1:10:02

iPad Pro Plus, all right? And

1:10:04

I was trying to like operate

1:10:06

it, but the thing is, it

1:10:08

doesn't turn on. So what's the

1:10:10

deal here? Why are you selling

1:10:12

broken products to a guy like

1:10:14

me? This is ridiculous. Well have

1:10:16

you tried to turn on a

1:10:18

button? Obviously I tried to turn

1:10:20

on a button, okay? Like this,

1:10:22

what do you think? You think

1:10:24

I'm a fucking fool? Like I'm

1:10:26

not gonna press the power button

1:10:28

to turn it... Wait a minute,

1:10:30

what? It turned on! Oh my...

1:10:32

I just drove all the way

1:10:34

out here, fuck man. Shit, okay,

1:10:36

well thanks for the service I

1:10:38

guess. I'm glad that we could

1:10:41

resolve this in a peaceful manner,

1:10:43

good day. That's a fuck. Get

1:10:45

over. And then we'll both, we'll

1:10:47

both edit that in our own

1:10:49

way. Show like, yeah, so that's

1:10:51

how we'll do it. It's like,

1:10:53

when your version of the episode

1:10:55

comes out, your version will be

1:10:57

done. When my version comes out,

1:10:59

my version will be on there.

1:11:01

And then we'll see. We'll compare

1:11:03

and contrast. That's what I can

1:11:05

go. I mean, there's going to

1:11:07

be a jenky little fucking five

1:11:09

minutes, isn't it? Less than two

1:11:11

minutes. It's like 30 seconds. Oh,

1:11:13

come on. Have you got a

1:11:15

longer in you than that, don't

1:11:17

you? Something like that. Come on.

1:11:20

Okay. Deep, dark, mysterious woodlands. You're

1:11:22

riding alone. You've been separated from

1:11:24

the rest of your group. What

1:11:26

are the thoughts running through your

1:11:28

head? Oh gosh. Oh gosh. These

1:11:30

dark mysterious woods sure are spooky.

1:11:32

I wonder, I hope my friends

1:11:34

are all right. What was that?

1:11:36

You suddenly see a skeleton coming

1:11:38

out with a mist wearing nothing

1:11:40

more than a chain bikini. Oh

1:11:42

my god. It's equal part spooky

1:11:44

and sexy. I don't know how

1:11:46

to feel. Hey darling, what a

1:11:48

good time at the bone in.

1:11:51

Like how does it work?

1:11:53

Like there's no organ, there's

1:11:55

no like, there's no like,

1:11:57

like, penis or vagina. anything

1:11:59

like what do i what

1:12:01

what do i do with

1:12:03

this like how do i

1:12:05

how do i perform sexual

1:12:07

acts with you mr. what

1:12:09

is your name kind skeleton

1:12:12

sir or madam or they

1:12:14

them whatever two copper pieces

1:12:16

and you can find out

1:12:18

all you want to know

1:12:20

two copper pieces what a

1:12:22

bargain You know,

1:12:24

this fucking skeleton, fucking,

1:12:27

we're walking side by

1:12:29

side in the woods.

1:12:31

Then we find this

1:12:34

fucking, like, there's this

1:12:36

little hole in the

1:12:39

ground. All right, so

1:12:41

you're telling me that

1:12:43

your sex dungeon is

1:12:46

down in this hole,

1:12:48

huh? This bugs bunny-esque,

1:12:50

fucking rabbit hole? Yeah.

1:12:53

That leads to your

1:12:55

home, is that true?

1:12:57

Yeah, that's right. Don't

1:13:00

pay much rent on

1:13:02

it these days. Big

1:13:05

damp. Cup of the

1:13:07

rats. Oh the rats

1:13:09

I see that could

1:13:12

be that could be

1:13:14

nourishment for for a

1:13:16

fellow with with a

1:13:19

stomach such as myself

1:13:21

why don't we oh

1:13:23

my goodness that's a

1:13:26

fucking full-on like medieval

1:13:28

style torture device that

1:13:31

you're gonna chain me

1:13:33

up in this and

1:13:35

down on that oh

1:13:38

dear what have I

1:13:40

gotten myself into? How

1:13:42

do you know my

1:13:45

deepest darkest secret cake?

1:13:47

I've always wanted to

1:13:49

be two inches taller.

1:13:52

We just end it

1:13:54

there, that's the whole

1:13:57

episode's done now. Yeah,

1:13:59

okay. So he's...

1:14:01

he's not not dead.

1:14:03

have could have

1:14:05

been on this

1:14:07

months ago. Stop

1:14:09

this. ago. no more.

1:14:11

think we've just

1:14:14

begun. Maya, Enjoy! more.

1:14:16

I think we've back

1:14:18

at them. I'm

1:14:20

not Evan Wexler,

1:14:22

remember? back at the... I'm not

1:14:24

Evan Wexler, remember? Just what are

1:14:26

you unkillable? I'm real

1:14:28

enough for you. you.

1:14:30

And now I'm... No, no, no,

1:14:32

no. I I don't

1:14:34

think so. We've got

1:14:37

We've got what

1:14:39

to do. 100 Handed Lost

1:14:41

Souls. Available now

1:14:43

wherever you get your

1:14:45

podcasts. Or at 100 -Handed.

1:14:47

That's or at 100 .com.