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you get your podcasts. One

3:05

of the issues that animates so

3:07

many of us living in states like

3:09

California, but people across the United States

3:11

of Florida, Louisiana, people in

3:13

states that have been ravaged

3:15

by some of the most

3:17

extreme storms in our lifetime,

3:19

hurricanes, floods, fires here on

3:21

the West Coast, I

3:23

think all recognize the imperative of focusing.

3:26

on the issue of climate change.

3:28

Of course, so much of our focus

3:30

is moved in other directions, but

3:32

Mother Nature, she bats last and she

3:34

bats a thousand. And that's why

3:36

this week, as we celebrate Earth Day

3:38

in the United States of America,

3:40

I thought it was important to talk

3:42

about the state. of climate

3:44

policy in the United States

3:46

of America. California just

3:48

reached two -thirds of all of

3:50

our electricity now, renewable electricity. We're

3:53

in the how business. And

3:55

my next guest is also

3:57

focused on how America can lead

3:59

the globe on low -carbon green

4:01

growth. This is

4:04

Gavin Newsom. And

4:06

this is Senator Sheldon

4:08

Whitehouse. Well,

4:10

Senator, thanks for taking the time to be on

4:12

the podcast. And I thought it was a great

4:14

time to have a chance to sit down and

4:16

talk to you about one of the most pressing

4:19

issues of our time. That's the issue of climate

4:21

and what the climate is in Washington, DC. The

4:23

Trump administration has come in.

4:26

even more ferociously, from my

4:28

perspective, trying to analyze

4:30

some of the progress that we've

4:32

made here in the state of

4:34

California, but all across the United

4:36

States. A lot of the progress

4:39

that was advanced, you advanced and

4:41

your colleagues during the Biden administration

4:43

and the IRA and the infrastructure

4:45

bill, promises that were promoted in

4:47

Project 2025 that... taking shape at

4:49

the EPA coming out with a

4:52

set of recommendations and rulemaking that

4:54

they're looking to advance that is

4:56

jaw dropping. So I really appreciate

4:58

the timeliness of your visit and

5:00

the opportunity to dialogue about some

5:02

of these things. Tell me what

5:05

I don't know in this space

5:07

and tell me what folks listening

5:09

should know about the state of

5:11

climate policy in America. I

5:13

think what most people don't

5:16

know is how close

5:18

we are to a

5:20

climate -driven economic collapse

5:22

that comes when climate

5:24

risk becomes uninsurable. So

5:26

you can't get a

5:28

property insurance policy on

5:30

your home. There are

5:32

plenty of Californians who

5:34

are experiencing that. And

5:36

then when you can't get property insurance

5:38

on your home, you can't get a

5:40

mortgage on it. You can't sell it

5:42

to somebody who needs a mortgage. So

5:44

unless you're selling it to a billionaire who

5:46

can pay cash, you're screwed. So

5:49

no mortgage means your property

5:51

values crash. And

5:53

when your property values crash, if that

5:55

happens to enough people, which it

5:57

will because this is driven by climate

6:00

risk that touches millions and millions

6:02

of people, you then get

6:04

an economic wipeout like the

6:06

2008 mortgage meltdown caused across the

6:08

country, harming people who had

6:10

no problems with their mortgage. It

6:12

was just the economic wipeout.

6:14

So someone listening may think that

6:17

may be slightly hyperbolic. Then

6:19

again, folks living on the coast,

6:21

folks living in the south,

6:23

in places like Louisiana, obviously, in

6:25

Florida, not just in California,

6:28

are feeling that reality. Obviously, the

6:30

wildfires here in the western

6:32

United States, the hurricanes in the

6:34

southern part of the country. What's

6:38

the national prism them to begin

6:40

to address this issue? Obviously, we've got

6:42

to deal with some of the

6:44

underlying issues of climate change. But in

6:46

an adaptation policy, we often are

6:48

talking about sea level rise. We're

6:51

talking about other strategies to mitigate. But

6:53

you're talking about a looming financial

6:55

crisis, which raises the bar of concern.

6:57

Correct. Yeah. And Florida, I think,

6:59

is first and worst. Florida

7:02

has more liability from the

7:04

fund it set up. to

7:06

backstop the insurers who go bust

7:08

there which is like a dozen

7:10

already because they're basically little pop

7:12

-ups that aren't for real and

7:14

the state steps in when they

7:16

don't pay claims and then the

7:18

taxpayer has to pay and they've

7:21

got a separate state backed insurance

7:23

company that is trying to look

7:25

like an insurance company and carrying

7:27

all this liability that probably they

7:29

won't be able to make good

7:31

on. Those two Risks

7:34

to insurance to Florida are

7:36

bigger than their state's actual like

7:39

sovereign debt So there's a

7:41

huge overhang over Florida and it's

7:43

gonna do nothing but get

7:45

worse You've got property insurance rates

7:47

that have tripled in a

7:49

lot of places in Florida and

7:52

that are expected to triple

7:54

again You know, that's really brutal

7:56

and when that happens it

7:58

starts cascading out through the economy

8:00

the International Financial Stability Board put

8:03

out a global warning to

8:05

banks, look out for this,

8:07

this is coming, because for instance, if

8:10

all these properties value go down

8:12

because they're not mortgageable any longer, then

8:14

their value goes down on the

8:16

loan -to -value ratio of a bank. And

8:18

now suddenly a bank doesn't look

8:20

solvent any longer, and it's got its

8:22

own problems. So these problems cascade

8:24

out into the economy, and that's what

8:27

we have to prepare people for. And

8:29

I think, you know, you

8:31

ask the great questioners, what do

8:33

we do about it? Step

8:36

one is to stop what is

8:38

causing this which is a

8:40

climate change but behind that the

8:42

climate denial operation of the

8:44

fossil fuel industry which through disinformation

8:46

and political corruption is just

8:48

ruining our ability to deal with

8:50

a problem whose solutions are

8:53

actually pretty evident if we could

8:55

get around the wiles and

8:57

the mischief of the fossil fuel industry.

8:59

I appreciate the clarity on that. I

9:01

mean, the climate crisis is nothing more

9:03

than a fossil fuel crisis. It's the

9:05

burning of oil and gas. And

9:07

then lying about it to

9:10

the public at industrial scale. And

9:12

having the best scientists, having

9:14

the best researchers in this space

9:16

for decades and decades and

9:18

being able to see into the

9:20

future and then knowingly lying.

9:22

about it. They weren't

9:24

just in denial. They

9:26

actually suppressed this information from the

9:28

public for decades. The scientists

9:30

have known their stuff about climate

9:32

this whole time. I mean,

9:34

the scientists community can really take

9:36

a bow for really excellent

9:38

presentations and really excellent understanding and

9:40

predictions. And that includes the

9:43

ones paid by Exxon. They got it

9:45

right. 30 years ago. And Exxon needs some

9:47

of the greatest geologists. They hire some

9:49

of the best and the brightest minds. Best

9:51

can be broadly described, but for the

9:54

job intended. So they're able to attract

9:56

the talent because they're able to dig

9:58

deep into their wallet to get that

10:00

talent. But as a consequence, digging

10:03

deeper into our wallets right now

10:05

because of socialized costs. can spend

10:07

similar talent in the disinformation, propagandizing,

10:10

setting up phony front

10:12

groups, the whole... armada

10:14

of disinformation effort that

10:16

they run is also

10:18

being done at a

10:20

very, I hate to

10:22

say it, it's being

10:24

done very professionally. And so, Senator, you're one

10:26

of the few folks. I mean, there's

10:28

a handful of you. And I, you know,

10:30

I give, do where it is deserved.

10:32

There is a handful of you as senators.

10:34

that have the guts, because I think it takes

10:37

guts to say what you just said, and

10:39

the courage to be out front, to call balls

10:41

and strikes, and to call out those that

10:43

are responsible. Polluters should

10:45

pay, but they're socializing the cost.

10:47

Incon 101. Incon 101 on all

10:49

of us. So the question

10:51

is, why is it just simply

10:53

because it's electorally ill advised?

10:55

to be so candid? Is it

10:57

because of the corruption that

11:00

is sort of imbued in the

11:02

system? It's the unwillingness to

11:04

take the risk of to be

11:06

more resolved in this space?

11:08

Is it just what we've come

11:10

to expect? And that is

11:12

big money influencing, having outsized influence.

11:14

Boom, big money, having outsized

11:16

influence. If you set up an

11:18

enormous armada of phony front

11:20

groups And you put madison avenue

11:22

tested fake messaging through that

11:24

and you backstop it with literally

11:26

billions of dollars in dark

11:28

money into congress into the back

11:30

pocket. Of mitch mcconnell so

11:32

that he can through super packs

11:34

drop ads on democrats you

11:36

put that whole machine together and

11:38

up against it you have

11:40

democrats being like. Well meaning and

11:42

talking about polar bears. It's

11:44

like totally not a fair fight.

11:46

It's the Panzer tanks versus

11:48

the Polish cavalry. You just don't

11:50

have a chance. So we

11:52

need to be much better about

11:54

it. The good news is

11:56

we don't have to build the

11:58

apparatus of lies. All

12:01

we have to do is build a much more

12:03

adept and sharp apparatus to point out the

12:05

lies. Well said. And when people

12:07

see what has been done to them, when

12:09

they understand, what was his name? Harvey

12:11

used to say, the end of the story? Yeah,

12:13

of course. Yeah. And that's the end of the

12:15

story. That's the end of the story. You got

12:17

lied to. Yeah. You got lied to at industrial

12:19

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12:26

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17:05

we're all dealing with the consequences,

17:07

of course. as a governor of

17:09

California that's dealt with more natural

17:11

disasters than most governors. And I

17:13

think Jerry Brown could have said

17:15

that prior to me. And in

17:17

the last 10 years, we've experienced

17:19

some of the worst wildfires in

17:21

US history, not just California history,

17:23

obviously the wildfires in Southern California

17:25

that occurred in dead of winter.

17:28

Nine months, the driest conditions

17:30

we've experienced down there

17:32

in modern history and in

17:35

January. with 100 mile

17:37

an hour winds attached to a

17:39

fire, we experienced a loss of

17:41

13 plus thousand properties. The issue

17:43

of insurance by definition is top

17:45

of mind. It's the number one

17:47

concern people have right now of

17:49

accessing whatever insurance they had so

17:51

they can recover their lives and

17:53

get back on their feet. But

17:55

the idea of getting back and

17:57

rebuilding the number one concern is

17:59

Can I get a mortgage now?

18:01

Yeah. Because can that mortgage be

18:03

attached to a requirement to have

18:06

insurance? Yeah. And that's the cascade.

18:08

You can't predict the risk. So you

18:10

can't get the insurance. So the buyer

18:13

who you want to sell your property

18:15

to can't get a mortgage. So you

18:17

have to drop the price. And you've

18:19

got this property values crash that then

18:21

cascades out through the economy. And it

18:23

has been warned of so clearly that

18:25

the chairman of the Fed, Jay

18:28

Powell, Federal Reserve, came a month

18:30

ago to the Senate, spoke to the

18:32

banking committee and said, you know,

18:34

10 to 15 years from now, there'll

18:36

be whole regions of the United

18:38

States where you can't get a mortgage

18:40

anymore. And he's, I mean, and

18:43

he's a pretty conservative, I mean, very,

18:45

very conservative guy. He said 10

18:47

And not very green. And not very

18:49

green. So it's just, look, a

18:51

bottom line is climate risk is financial

18:53

risk. And it's language, I think,

18:55

hopefully that can bring people to the

18:58

table on fundamentally addressing the solutions.

19:00

Now, we've talked about prevention. We could

19:02

talk about low -carbon green growth. We

19:04

could talk about decarbonizing our economy

19:06

and changing the way we produce and

19:08

consume energy. But also, how do

19:10

we address the situational reality? 10 or

19:12

15 years, obviously, we're looking at

19:15

IPPC. We're looking at 2045 goals and

19:17

carbon neutrality in that timeline. But

19:19

beyond that, the insurance market and stabilizing

19:21

it. It's not unique to Florida,

19:23

it's not unique to Louisiana, it's up

19:25

in Montana of all places. They

19:27

were discussing this as a top priority,

19:30

obviously in California. Is there a

19:32

federal frame, you talking to your colleagues

19:34

about a federal strategy to address

19:36

some of these insurance concerns? I think

19:38

until we turn the corner on

19:40

fossil fuel emissions. The

19:43

insurance industry is going to continue

19:45

looking out into uncertainty. How bad does

19:47

this get? Every year that we

19:49

add more fossil fuel emissions, we add

19:51

to their uncertainty, we add to

19:53

their peril. And so

19:56

they're going to continue to

19:58

withdraw away from that

20:00

risk. A board member

20:02

of Allianz, which is one of

20:04

the biggest insurance companies in

20:06

the world, as you know, just

20:08

recently wrote an article about

20:10

how climate change means the end

20:12

of the insurance industry business

20:14

model and by the way that

20:16

takes down mortgages that require

20:18

insurance and by the way that

20:20

also takes down a lot

20:22

of financial transactions Where there's an

20:24

insurance component to a complex

20:26

financial transaction. So this cascades out

20:28

very very widely and very Rapidly

20:31

and we simply have to

20:33

like start with first principles.

20:35

This is caused by fossil

20:37

fuel emissions. We're not dealing

20:39

it Dealing with it properly

20:41

because of fossil fuel mischief

20:43

politically through their dark money

20:45

and through their lies We've

20:47

got to break the back

20:49

of the fossil fuel disinformation

20:51

machine get back to legislating

20:53

properly and then There's

20:55

the possibility that the insurance industry says,

20:58

okay, now we see an end through

21:00

this. We can work our way through

21:02

how we redesign products so we can

21:04

still provide coverage in Florida, for instance,

21:06

which is really in terrible, terrible shape.

21:08

Well, it's interesting. I can't help when

21:10

you bring up dark money to see

21:12

to me how transparent and in the

21:15

light of day that corruption is. I

21:17

just think about that. Infamous meeting with

21:19

oil executives that then candidate Donald Trump

21:21

had where he said give me a

21:23

billion dollars and I'll roll back Basically

21:25

the 20th century. Yeah, give you what

21:27

you want and he did and he

21:29

did he's trying and is that a

21:32

gross exaggeration goes back to my opening

21:34

question to you I mean EPA this

21:36

is a wreck. I mean I've seen,

21:38

we went through Trump 1 .0, we

21:40

went through Bush. I mean, I'm, you

21:42

know, remember, I'm from my old offices

21:44

in Ronald Reagan's office. And so even

21:46

going back to the James Watts days,

21:49

and I remember all the vandalism was

21:51

being done on the environment back then,

21:53

natural resources, not just in terms of

21:55

environmental policy and waivers and the Clean

21:57

Air Act and the like, Endangered Species

21:59

Act. But this seems, from

22:01

my perspective, we're just a

22:03

few weeks into this administration. This

22:06

seems 10x the acceleration.

22:08

of that kind of analysis

22:10

and regressive policymaking. Am

22:12

I overstatement? No, you are

22:15

not. Just one

22:17

example that we're looking at

22:19

a lot, both in the Judiciary

22:21

and the Environment Public Works

22:23

Committees, is the Greenhouse Gas Reduction

22:25

Fund that the Trump administration

22:27

is desperate to attack. And

22:29

in order to do so, they're

22:31

not just having EPA try to

22:33

figure out ways to undo the

22:36

fund. They got the U .S.

22:38

Attorney for the District

22:40

of Columbia to try to

22:42

cook up a fake criminal

22:44

case so they could use

22:46

the fake criminal case as

22:48

a justification to get a

22:50

court order freezing the funds

22:52

prior to seizing them. The

22:54

problem was that the career staff said,

22:57

there's no crime here. We can't do this.

22:59

So what did they do? Fired the

23:01

Chief of the Criminal Division, went

23:03

forward with the political U .S. Attorney signing the

23:05

pleading completely on his own, not one person in

23:07

the office. would sign it,

23:09

then the judge threw it out. So

23:12

they're willing to break

23:14

through barriers of bad behavior,

23:17

including maladministration of the

23:19

criminal laws to try to

23:21

get harm done to

23:23

climate initiatives and to try

23:26

to earn the billion

23:28

dollars or whatever it was

23:30

that they spent on On

23:33

Trump, we know it's north of 100 million. That

23:35

was what was disclosed. Disclosed. But when you hide

23:37

it through C4s and through Super PACs and in

23:39

it goes and who knows what went into it

23:41

was crypto fund. I mean, the whole thing is

23:43

just really hard to tell. But he could easily

23:45

have gotten the billion dollars. We just don't know

23:48

yet. Peace

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I'm George M. Johnson, a best

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that's what we are doing on Fighting Words. We're

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not going to let anyone silence us.

27:57

That's the reason why they're banning books like

27:59

yours, George. That's the reason why they're

28:01

trying to stop the teaching of black history,

28:03

queer history, any history that challenges the

28:05

whitewash norm. Or put

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us in a box. Black people

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We are the greatest culture

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makers in world history. Listen

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to Fighting Words on the iHeart

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get your podcast. You

28:32

know, it's interesting. I think

28:34

back and forgive me for going

28:36

back to Ronald Reagan, because

28:38

you have been a recent champion

28:40

of trying to protect California's

28:43

waivers under the Clean Air Act.

28:45

And just for those listening,

28:47

it's an interesting fact. California's

28:49

modern environmental movement. There were

28:51

many, many moments, obviously, offshore oil

28:54

spill in Santa, Santa Barbara,

28:56

but Ronald Reagan really established the

28:58

regulatory regime as governor in

29:00

1967 with the creation of the

29:02

California Air Resource Board. And

29:04

in 1970, a Republican by the

29:06

name of Richard Nixon, gave

29:08

Reagan the authority under that

29:10

Clean Air Act to advance

29:13

that waiver. Same person that

29:15

brought us the Endangered Species

29:17

Act, among many other environmental

29:19

rules, including the EPA itself,

29:22

Republicans. I'm old enough

29:24

to remember not that I

29:26

wasn't around for that necessarily, but

29:28

I do remember another Republican,

29:30

George H. W. Bush. on the

29:32

issue of some issues around

29:34

the ozone layer as well. What

29:36

the hell's happened in this

29:38

country? That we've lost sort of

29:40

a bipartisan appreciation for clean

29:42

air, clean water, having

29:44

a life you can live out loud

29:46

without asthma and being able to live

29:48

longer and healthier lives. I mean, there's

29:50

a lot of rhetoric in this space.

29:53

But what the hell's happened

29:55

this new reality? Well, I

29:57

think the new reality has

29:59

a lot to do with

30:01

corruption and a lot to

30:03

do with Citizens United, which

30:05

unleashed political spending on an

30:08

unprecedented level and nobody had

30:10

a bigger incentive to spend

30:12

money politically than a polluter. And

30:15

nobody had a bigger

30:17

incentive to hide that it

30:19

was them spending money

30:21

politically than a polluter. So

30:24

you could go in and make

30:26

your back room deal with the Republican

30:28

Party and say you knock it

30:30

off on climate You knock it off

30:32

on environmental enforcement. We will give

30:34

you all the money that you need

30:36

and nobody will know it's us

30:38

It'll all come through Californians for peace

30:40

and puppies and prosperity or some

30:42

phony front group that will prop up

30:44

for you and the motives are

30:46

huge the International Monetary Fund Says that

30:48

the subsidy for fossil fuel in

30:50

the United States every single year from

30:52

being allowed to pollute for free

30:54

is $700 billion. The subsidy.

30:56

The American taxpayers are pain

30:58

in the aggregate. In the form

31:00

of pollution harms that in

31:02

proper economics are baked into the

31:04

price of the product. In

31:06

the product. But they're not in

31:08

the price of the product,

31:10

so they would economists call a

31:12

negative externality, which is a

31:14

form of subsidy. Ask Milton Friedman,

31:16

the great conservative economist, right? And

31:19

when you're fighting for a $700 billion

31:21

subsidy, How much would you spend a year

31:24

in politics to protect $700 billion? I

31:26

mean, the number goes through the roof. It's

31:28

astronomical. So the notion

31:30

that they could have given

31:32

$1 billion to Trump, the

31:34

notion that they could spend

31:36

$10 billion a year influencing

31:38

Congress is completely plausible when

31:40

you're playing for stakes of

31:42

that magnitude. It wasn't that

31:44

long ago that these guys

31:46

made $63 billion net profit

31:49

in 90 days with some

31:51

of the most egregious gas

31:53

spiking we've ever experienced. in

31:55

U .S. history with no zero

31:57

accountability. As the price of

31:59

the barrel of oil was

32:01

going down, the price of

32:03

gasoline was going up, and

32:05

there were no new regulatory

32:07

impositions or fees attached to

32:09

that. That's the thing about

32:11

this line that Republicans like

32:13

to utter that, you know,

32:15

what we need is energy

32:18

independence. We will

32:20

never have energy and dependence

32:22

in the United States of America

32:24

with fossil fuel Because the

32:26

price is not set in America.

32:28

Thank you. The price is

32:30

set by a foreign cartel That's

32:32

exactly where that 62 billion

32:34

came from. Yeah, Putin comes over

32:36

the border prices spike in

32:38

OPEC and instead of being loyal

32:40

to their American customers and

32:43

keeping the prices where they were

32:45

doing just fine, they ramped their

32:47

prices up to meet the cartel

32:49

price and gouged and gouged and

32:51

gouged and made the biggest profits

32:53

in the history of the corporation.

32:56

Yeah, and somehow they had

32:58

the American people hardworking folks

33:00

defending these oil companies. despite

33:03

the fact they were directly being

33:05

fleeced by the same folks, the

33:07

same petro dictators overseas that were

33:09

determining domestic policy, not just influencing

33:11

foreign policy. Well, that climate denial

33:13

machine got turned on full blast

33:16

to say that this was Joe

33:18

Biden's fault. Well said. And we

33:20

did not have, and the president

33:22

then, President Biden, did not have

33:24

a strategy to fight back. Now,

33:26

ultimately, they went for the clawback

33:28

legislation. And by fighting

33:30

for the clawback legislation, they actually

33:33

turned that issue where actually

33:35

people started to blame the fossil

33:37

fuel industry, particularly once they'd

33:39

seen those profit reports. So

33:42

we were able to turn that

33:44

issue, but it took some willingness to

33:46

fight. And it took a while

33:48

before the Biden administration got around to

33:50

where they were willing to fight

33:52

back. There were months in which there

33:55

was a one -way street of public

33:57

information all saying Biden inflation, Biden

33:59

gas crisis, Biden did this. Which is

34:01

a great irony because under the

34:03

Biden administration, we were never more energy

34:05

independent in terms of net exports.

34:08

I think it's between 13 .3 or

34:10

4 billion, a million barrels a day

34:12

that we're exporting more than Trump

34:14

administration ever exported. We're also producing

34:16

more clean energy and green energy. And

34:18

I want to compliment you on the

34:20

IRA, the $369 billion, the

34:23

up to a trillion dollars. We'll see

34:25

where it counts up to of tax credits

34:27

and obviously the infrastructure bill. Are

34:29

you seeing the benefit? There's been

34:31

a lot of, you know, I'm talking

34:33

to as a client on the

34:35

podcast, you know, where he thought the

34:37

mistake of those bills, it wasn't

34:39

attached to streamlining and green tape and

34:41

addressing the issue of a regulatory

34:43

thicket in terms of advancing those alternative

34:45

energy strategies. We could have done

34:47

more, but right now you're seeing an

34:49

awful lot of Republicans, senators

34:52

and congressmen. Coming into John

34:54

Thune Coming into speaker Johnson

34:56

and saying hold on hold

34:58

on not so fast This

35:00

is a factory in my

35:02

district. This is a factory

35:04

where I've got employees This

35:06

is an investment where I

35:08

was there when we cut

35:10

the ribbon not so fast.

35:12

So I think we did

35:14

a fairly good job there.

35:16

It just isn't enough because

35:18

You simply can't have a

35:20

competition for energy in

35:22

which one side, the polluting side,

35:25

pollutes for free and gets

35:27

a $700 billion negative externality

35:29

subsidy. And the other side

35:31

has to fight. And plus,

35:34

with that huge subsidy, they're

35:36

attacking the other side constantly in

35:38

the public media, lying about them,

35:40

attacking politicians. It's a very, very

35:42

tough environment. I will tell you,

35:44

Governor, if

35:46

the United States of America had

35:48

the vehicle efficiency standards that California

35:50

has, the carbon price that california

35:52

has if our national energy policy

35:54

was as good as california's we

35:56

would be on our way through

35:58

this problem we would have a

36:00

much wider pathway to climate safety

36:02

as it is it is a

36:04

very narrow path and we've got

36:06

to fight really hard. to make

36:08

sure that we succeed. Well, I

36:10

appreciate that. And again, it goes

36:12

back to my compliments and they

36:14

weren't lightly extended to you for

36:16

being a fierce champion of protecting

36:18

our heart and status because of

36:20

those waivers that have allowed us

36:22

to advance our clean car goals

36:24

to allow us to have an

36:27

influence. to support other

36:29

states' efforts, these 177 states. We

36:31

call them because we're joining forces. We're

36:33

one of them in Rhode Island.

36:35

We're right behind you. God bless. And

36:37

all the other climate alliances we've

36:39

created, not just in the United States,

36:41

but also internationally in the MOU,

36:43

MOU under two coalitions and the like.

36:45

But let me ask you just

36:47

in closing, there's one major conference coming

36:50

up. It's COP, what we refer

36:52

to as COP 30. What is COP,

36:54

what does COP 30 represent? And

36:56

do you think it represents this next

36:58

international climate, what do you think

37:00

this moment represents? Trump -Trumpism, what

37:02

do you think we represent?

37:04

You, your state, Rhode Island,

37:06

California represent to the international

37:08

community at this critical moment

37:10

as well. What we are

37:13

seeing is a long litany

37:15

of fossil fuel lies about

37:17

what our future is going

37:19

to be on a collision

37:21

course with the insurance industries.

37:24

Look at what our future is going

37:26

to be. The fossil fuel industry

37:28

can lie for free. The insurance

37:31

industry makes trillion dollar bets

37:33

on getting it right and has

37:35

fiduciary responsibilities to do its

37:37

best. And the insurance

37:39

industry is predicting real calamity

37:41

with that cascade through real

37:44

estate markets and into world

37:46

economic meltdown. So if in

37:48

Brazil at the cop, we

37:50

are focusing on that insurance

37:52

risk and what it means

37:54

for real estate markets, According

37:57

to the Economist magazine, a

37:59

$25 trillion hit to the

38:01

world's largest asset class, real

38:03

estate. If we can

38:05

focus on that, then we can focus

38:07

our minds adequately to find that

38:09

narrow pathway to climate safety. If

38:12

it's more nebulous talk about ambitions and,

38:14

you know, green this and all, you know,

38:16

it's like, no, now we're down to

38:18

a very narrow path. We've got to nail

38:20

this. if we're going to leave our

38:22

children and grandchildren a pathway to climate safety.

38:24

I appreciate it. It's interesting. I mean,

38:27

it's enclosing. I appreciate it. I really appreciate

38:29

I mean, again, anyone listening appreciates the

38:31

insurance pressures there under the issue of affordability

38:33

is the issue of our time. It's

38:35

defined the last few years. I think it

38:37

had big and hot size influence clearly

38:39

in the election, not just here, but around

38:41

the globe, but the issue of insurance.

38:44

and climate and connecting that dot, I think

38:46

is profound. And so I'm very grateful.

38:48

Thank you, Senator, for taking the time this.

38:50

Well, you're living it. Thank you, Governor.

38:52

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triumph over adversity You'll meet June

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who founded an all -female rock

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band in the 1960s. I might

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as well have said we're gonna

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walk on the moon But she

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showed them who's boss they would

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wherever you get your podcasts. Here's

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some advice from Jamie Dimon, the

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from the leadership crowd. I'm

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Dan Roth, LinkedIn's editor

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-in -chief. On my podcast

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This Is Working, leaders

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share strategies for success. Listen on

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the iHeart radio app, Apple podcast, or

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wherever you get your podcasts. The

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best things in life are on the

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other side of difficult conversations. But

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if we're honest, most people run

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from them, staying silent, missing

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chances and holding themselves back. I

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know this is true because I used

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to be like that until I realized

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that negotiation isn't a talent, it's a

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skill that anyone can learn. And

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once I did, everything changed. I

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went from people pleaser to confident communicator

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now I teach Fortune 500 leaders

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and top executives how to do the

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same. Listen to negotiate anything

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