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Today's guest is an actor,

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a writer, a director. He's

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won an Oscar Award. You

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know his movies, like Good

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Will Hunting, Gone Girl, Batman.

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The list goes on. He

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has a new film, The

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Accountant Two. It's in theaters

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this Friday, with John Bernthal.

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You may have seen the

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first one. I had a

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great time getting to know

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him. Today's guest is Mr.

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Ben Affleck. Yeah,

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I lost my name. I wonder if you

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lose vanity as you get a little bit

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older, like not you, but like do PE,

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what is that? I don't know, I see

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some people like, I don't know, it's hard

0:53

to tell because that, you know, you see

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some people like doing. Crazy looking things and

0:57

you think like that looks crazy. Why are

0:59

you trying to look 18 years old? You

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know what I mean? Oh like a guy

1:03

He's on celebrity big brother right now. Who's

1:05

that guy? He kind of looks like Jack

1:07

Sparrow I don't know you're talking about but

1:09

I can imagine you know I mean you

1:11

kind of can like a loo I think

1:13

you can go one of two ways like

1:15

if you see yourself all the time and

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especially if like the way you make a

1:20

living is by kind of impart the way

1:22

you look or whatever, it feels like, you

1:24

know, people can get like obsessed with it,

1:26

you know what I mean? Yeah, that's kind

1:28

of who I was thinking of Mickey Rourke,

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I think. Yeah. No judgment against him, but

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he tries, you know, it's like you can...

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It's definitely an active, yeah, some people it's

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like an active thing, and then you're in

1:38

a real kind of like conundrum with yourself

1:40

because you have to get old so then

1:42

you would constantly be feeling like afraid to

1:44

get older I guess or you'd be in

1:46

like a... Yeah, I think it's a tricky

1:48

thing, right? Like you know, nobody wants to

1:50

get older, right? Because what it means is

1:52

like you're gonna die and nobody wants to

1:54

really faith. And also you just find out

1:56

like, like, you know, you know, you're 50,

1:58

50, man. and you'll when you get there

2:00

you'll see like just regular shit that used

2:02

to be normal hurts like moving around you're

2:04

like damn what happened to me today you're

2:06

like why's my back hurt oh because I

2:08

got up and then I sat back down

2:11

yeah I petted a small dog like small

2:13

injuries all the time you know and so

2:15

you start to get a little bit that

2:17

that can kind of affect you and I

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think if you I think part of it's

2:21

you got to just get comfortable with the

2:23

fact that you know and I guess I'm

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lucky because I'm I don't feel like oh

2:27

shit I better look young and you know

2:29

kind of am who I am and and

2:31

I'm all right with that and also kind

2:33

of what I like what I'm interested

2:36

in more and more is stuff

2:38

that doesn't necessarily involve like how

2:40

I look like that pressure I

2:42

think like for women for anybody

2:44

who's sees himself all the

2:47

time it's like I think that can

2:49

turn into like a vicious cycle of

2:51

trying to look at shit and fix

2:53

it or look younger or something. Whereas

2:55

like, you don't have to look any

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kind of way to direct movies, you

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know what I mean, or have a business,

3:02

you know, so I guess I'm lucky

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to let me. It's hard to know

3:06

if you, it would seem like you're

3:08

like a guy who likes being in

3:10

Hollywood. It's hard to know if you,

3:13

it would seem like you seem like

3:15

a guy who likes being in Hollywood

3:17

or doesn't like being good with the

3:19

bad. I don't really like to. like do

3:21

big social events or go out much. I'm

3:23

kind of shy. I don't really want to

3:25

be on care. Certainly when I'm like in

3:28

my regular life and I'm walking around in

3:30

my, you know, whatever, underwear and t-shirts and

3:32

stuff. I don't want people looking at me.

3:34

I like my family, my kids, and my

3:36

life. I wish that were more private. I

3:38

don't know how many people really want. to

3:40

be sort of scrutinized in that way, but

3:43

I really like making movies and I like

3:45

telling those stories. And so, look, the truth

3:47

is I always knew that was kind of

3:49

a part of it and so, you know,

3:51

I deal with it. I don't, there's things

3:53

I don't love about this business, a lot

3:55

of them. You know, it can make you

3:57

kind of crazy, you know, it can record.

3:59

And there's stuff that's just no fun for

4:02

me, like... you know, events and shows and

4:04

stuff like that. I don't, some people really

4:06

know how to have a good time. I

4:08

wish I did, I wish I was out

4:11

there like, great, we're gonna hit it and

4:13

I'm gonna, you know what I mean, like,

4:15

as if I had that attitude, I'd probably

4:17

be happier about it. Yeah, you know what

4:19

I mean? Yeah, dude, I'm always trapped inside

4:22

of myself. Like, so we were like, you

4:24

don't like being in a crowd, I'm like,

4:26

I have to, I'd probably be happier about

4:28

it, I'd probably be happier about it. Yeah,

4:31

you know, you know, I'd, I'd, I'd probably

4:33

be happier about, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd,

4:35

I'd probably be happier, I'd be happier, I'd,

4:37

I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd,

4:39

I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd probably be right

4:42

now. So I can tell, dude, I can

4:44

totally, I can totally relate to that. And

4:46

every time there is a, and then we'll

4:48

get off this, I wanna talk, I know

4:51

you, I wanna talk to you about directing

4:53

and acting, but. Because yeah, I was just,

4:55

I was like, this bit, it's so, because

4:57

they always get pictures of you where you

4:59

seem like you're like, you're like, the dwarf

5:02

that like is kind of like the backup

5:04

dwarf, you know, like, you're on the side,

5:06

you're smoking, like. What is that guy? I

5:08

didn't, I don't know that character, but it's

5:11

like, like, is he pissed? I think he's

5:13

a little pissed, yeah, he's an understudy dwarf,

5:15

okay. And not like you're a regular-like, like

5:17

you're a regular-headed, a regular-headed guy, a regular-headed

5:19

guy, heided guy, but it, but it, but

5:22

it, but it, but it, but it, but

5:24

it, but it, but it's like, but it's

5:26

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

5:28

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

5:30

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, But

5:33

I shouldn't have said the war if I

5:35

shouldn't say anything, but it was like, I

5:37

don't know, and it's like they only put

5:39

this chronology out of you that makes you

5:42

seem like you're kind of bummed. Well, here's

5:44

the thing. If the only time, like when

5:46

somebody's taking a picture of me, I'm bummed.

5:48

Because usually I'm with my kids, I'm trying

5:50

to go somewhere. And then there's four guys,

5:53

we're like, oh, and I'm like, can you

5:55

give me, can you give me some time?

5:57

And then they go away, not taking the

5:59

picture, you go inside and you're having a

6:02

good time, but it's this selective experience of

6:04

like, take a picture of somebody every time

6:06

they're feeling irritated, they're gonna look irritated. Especially

6:08

if you're the one irritating them. Yeah, it's

6:10

like, I'll come piss you off and then

6:13

take your bigger and then put it, and

6:15

then be like, look up this stuff like

6:17

the, you know. it's kind of the idea

6:19

is like fall somebody around and antagonize them

6:22

and then hopefully they'll have like a nervous

6:24

breakdown and go crazy on you and then

6:26

your video be worth more money you know

6:28

yes it's such a it's that whole thing

6:30

gets really black mirrorish man you know it

6:33

really gets kind of like like I can

6:35

remember a long time ago you know years

6:37

years ago like I really had a lot

6:39

of empathy for Britney Spears because I remember

6:42

that it seemed like It's not somebody that

6:44

I knew or hung out with, but I

6:46

just like everybody else, you see all this

6:48

shit that comes through. But having had my

6:50

own experiences myself, I knew like these are

6:53

people are following her around. in a time

6:55

where she may or may not have been

6:57

having difficulty I don't know because I don't

6:59

know her but I do know that the

7:01

the cycle having people harangue and yell at

7:04

you and hansel you and follow you it

7:06

kind of seemed like that itself was kind

7:08

of whipping up the whole thing into a

7:10

tizzy so it's it and I like they're

7:13

not helping well yeah for and they're kind

7:15

of poking a stick and it's like it's

7:17

where it felt kind of like that's the

7:19

first time I thought this is kind of

7:21

a a weird kind of unintentional, I think,

7:24

culturally but kind of collective cruelty where what's

7:26

taken out of the image that you see.

7:28

are the people around, you know, waving the

7:30

stick at the tiger or poking on it

7:33

or whatever, and all you see is the

7:35

growling animal or whatever it is, but like

7:37

a part of that is because somebody's coming

7:39

around and, you know, hitting on it or

7:41

whatever to make it get active, and that's

7:44

where you think, okay, well, this isn't really

7:46

news, it's not even real, it's not what

7:48

would be happening if this... effect wasn't taking

7:50

place. And that's where I thought, okay, you

7:53

know, the sort of wise thing to do

7:55

is to just sort of like maintain one's

7:57

perspective and try to remove yourself a little

7:59

bit. It doesn't, which is what I would

8:01

like to do. I think there's this sense

8:04

that like if you see someone's picture all

8:06

attained, they must want you to be seeing

8:08

it, right, which is not. the case at

8:10

all for me. I'm self-conscious. I don't really

8:13

want you to be seeing that. I don't

8:15

see any reason for it. As an actor

8:17

it's no good for you because I don't

8:19

really want people if they watch a movie

8:21

to be like that's not him because I

8:24

saw him yesterday at lunch and I know

8:26

he's who he really is. It gets in

8:28

the way of you being able to create

8:30

like the illusion. It's really hard work to

8:33

create the illusion that this person like the

8:35

character in the accountant too, for example, is

8:37

a real person in a real circumstance in

8:39

order to get the audience to care about

8:41

it, to laugh, to find it exciting and

8:44

empathize the character, they have to suspend disbelief.

8:46

That's harder if you're constantly being shown something

8:48

else. So I think it gets in the

8:50

way, it makes it hard to be an

8:52

actor, and it's also just, it's also not

8:55

good for you. People start to resent you,

8:57

if they see you too much, no matter.

8:59

whether or not you're trying to be, no,

9:01

no, I don't want to do this. And

9:04

nonetheless, like, I remember 20 years ago going

9:06

through an experience where it was like, it

9:08

feels to the world like I'm trying to

9:10

shove myself in their face. And nobody likes

9:12

that, right? Nobody wants to be the, like,

9:15

the camera hog, the guy who's trying to

9:17

get a bunch of thin, afflict shoes or

9:19

whatever. And I'm like, maybe just leave me

9:21

alone. And I would be, I would be

9:24

much happier. I don't pretend to understand the

9:26

nuances and the social media and how to

9:28

manage that as celebrities. Well, I don't do

9:30

it. Some people do it really well. But,

9:32

and I think there is a difference now

9:35

because like, it's like if you have a

9:37

hundred million followers, that's actually valuable and meaningful

9:39

in a different way. I still, I'm kind

9:41

of old school, I guess, in a way

9:44

of seeing... I'm a medium school, I think.

9:46

I'm middle school. Yes, exactly. I'm a seventh

9:48

grader. Oh, dude. Yeah, I don't even think

9:50

of that. I don't know if I graduated

9:52

that. When some of them, they let you

9:55

skip, I guess, if you're, you know, depending

9:57

on what county you're in. Sometimes they hold

9:59

you back, dude. Bro, the scariest thing was

10:01

when like the dumb bully kid got held

10:04

back and you're like, you had to stick

10:06

around and you're a great. and you're like,

10:08

oh man. I remember we got word. The

10:10

kid's six ten and like six grade. Dude,

10:12

we got word that Damien had gotten held

10:15

back and people were like, oh, hell no

10:17

dude. We cannot do Damien again. Hold me

10:19

back too. We cannot do Damien again. Like

10:21

Damien has to go out to pasture wherever

10:24

they put these kids that leave sixth grade.

10:26

And they're like, Damien's coming back. Finish their

10:28

education on sixth grade. Shut him down, dude.

10:30

Taze him or something. You know, put a

10:32

tire spike when he's leaving out of his

10:35

driveway in the morning, but Damien cannot come

10:37

back. But yeah it is interesting and it

10:39

is kind of a sickness. I think a

10:41

lot of people see that stuff as a

10:43

sickness these days, but I do think it's

10:46

fascinating about the suspension of disbelief and that

10:48

that was something that used to be amazing

10:50

about celebrities is like you never got to

10:52

see them right? And so you only got

10:55

to see them and actors and you only

10:57

got to see them on screen and in

10:59

this way and so you really envisioned it.

11:01

going to say that is that when I

11:03

was a kid I kind of thought Harrison

11:06

Ford was that guy. You know what I

11:08

mean? Like, that's Harrison Ford. I think he's

11:10

probably the biggest, you know, movie star of

11:12

my childhood and whether it was like, you

11:15

know, Indian Jones or Star Wars, like he

11:17

was the guy and I kind of thought

11:19

he was that guy. And so it's a

11:21

little weird to see that guy just like,

11:23

you know, in his sneakers and his kind

11:26

of raincoat walking around Brentwood. It's sort of

11:28

like, of course it's disappointing or it's disillusioning

11:30

or something because you have this thing in

11:32

your mind that people went to a, you

11:35

know, Steven Spielberg and George Lucas went to

11:37

a whole, you know, use all their talent

11:39

went to a bunch of work to make

11:41

this dude look like Indiana Jones and Han

11:43

Solo. And I think what I've seen now

11:46

is like I actually don't even want to

11:48

see like the actors that I really like.

11:50

I don't want to go on your social

11:52

because I don't want to know what you

11:55

had for lunch because it just makes it

11:57

harder for me to get into like what

11:59

you know what you're doing. I love that

12:01

and that's I think that is a real

12:03

directorial way to think I think I mean

12:06

I can see that in your brain I

12:08

mean I'm just a judge I'm just a

12:10

guy judging you they just met in a

12:12

room somewhere but um but I never thought

12:14

about that that's how it is that yeah

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28:40

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28:42

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ago. Oh, yeah, so this is the second

29:13

one this is the sequel. Oh, yeah, I

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didn't sorry man. I didn't put it together

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is rare, and I definitely wouldn't say this,

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but weren't true, it's better in the first

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hard, it's more broadly accessible, actions better, and

29:27

I really like the first movie. And you

29:30

directed this one too? No. I acted, got

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really good director, who directed the first

29:36

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one of those things people like it's like it's

1:04:02

one of those things that's sort of like I

1:04:04

Don't know people like to see it. It kind

1:04:06

of reminds me a little bit of like planet

1:04:09

Hollywood a little bit. I'm always like I don't

1:04:11

get this bats rubber batsuit here. It's just yeah,

1:04:13

but it's like I don't know It's hard to

1:04:15

tell like look I get that's a kind of

1:04:17

a cool movie souvenir. Sometimes I feel like if

1:04:19

you put a grapefruit on like TV every week.

1:04:21

You know what I mean? And then you

1:04:24

just put it to the mall. People will

1:04:26

go by and be like, oh, there's that

1:04:28

great fruit from TV. You know what I

1:04:30

mean? So it's sometimes I tell whether something's

1:04:32

interesting because it's interesting or because, but I

1:04:34

can see how that is kind of interesting.

1:04:36

The most interesting about it when people see

1:04:38

it is like, damn, how do you wear

1:04:40

this? And it's true, it is like of

1:04:42

all those type of roles and stuff like

1:04:44

the superhero thing that the outfits make it

1:04:46

a lot harder to do your job because

1:04:48

you're kind of constrained and they're real hot.

1:04:50

It's like, you know when like wrestlers,

1:04:53

like when I was a kid,

1:04:55

you used to run around like

1:04:57

trash bags to lose weight because

1:04:59

you just dump all the water.

1:05:01

You know what I mean? Like

1:05:03

that's sort of what those outfits

1:05:05

do. like a California raisin. Yeah,

1:05:07

exactly 15 pounds in 10 minutes.

1:05:09

You know what I mean? He's

1:05:11

just spitting on his family members

1:05:13

and he's just cursing because they

1:05:15

say cursing helps you burn calories

1:05:17

or whatever. Yeah, that's kind of

1:05:19

the nursing. But you would, but you

1:05:21

never like put it back on for anything fun

1:05:23

or a surprise family members. But I did it for

1:05:26

my kid's birthday. Yeah, my son's birthday. And he was

1:05:28

like, he was a little young, but I was, it

1:05:30

was fun. I got the pictures now. Now he's like,

1:05:32

I guess that was cool. You did that at the

1:05:34

time. I know what the fuck you were doing.

1:05:36

And I'm like, but it was cool though. Do I

1:05:39

get credit for it. I had fun and that was

1:05:41

the whole reason I did it like Lumby Batman, my

1:05:43

son, like how cool is it your dad's Batman? My

1:05:45

son was like, you know, three and shit and so

1:05:48

he was like scared of the movie. But, but,

1:05:50

but, you know, since then it's like, it's like,

1:05:52

it's become kind of in retrospect, I think,

1:05:54

kind of cool. It's hard to tell what

1:05:56

your kids think is cool, because most time

1:05:58

they're kind of like, yeah. you kind of

1:06:00

because it's almost like you're like yeah I

1:06:03

don't know I just watched my brother have

1:06:05

nephews like I want to get a wife

1:06:07

and children I don't have a wife yet

1:06:09

but yeah you look like your parents are

1:06:11

never gonna be like because the part of

1:06:13

the thing is like you don't you can't

1:06:16

like you need to separate from your parents

1:06:18

right you need to like move away get

1:06:20

out of the house that whole thing like

1:06:22

move on become your own your own man

1:06:24

and all that stuff and if you're too

1:06:27

wrapped up and like you're wrapped up You

1:06:29

know, it gets in the way of that.

1:06:31

You know what I mean? You gotta start

1:06:33

to slowly separate in the ways that kids

1:06:35

do. So there's part of it where they're

1:06:38

like, you know, and it comes off like,

1:06:40

well, I'm like, hey, you guys wanna play

1:06:42

some game? Well, close the door. Get out

1:06:44

of my room. Close me, I'm like, so

1:06:46

just leave. You know what I mean. And

1:06:49

then there's that moment. And then there's that

1:06:51

moment. And it's, you know, just, just, just

1:06:53

leave. And the first leave. And the first

1:06:55

leave. And the first leave. And it. And

1:06:57

the first leave. And the first leave. And

1:07:00

the first leave. And the first leave. And

1:07:02

the first. And the first leave. And the

1:07:04

first leave. And the first. And the first.

1:07:06

And the first leave. And the first. And

1:07:08

the first leave. And the first. And the

1:07:11

first. And the first. And the first. And

1:07:13

the first. And the first. It's the first

1:07:15

Do you think, um, I auditioned for a

1:07:17

Project Green Light movie that you guys had

1:07:19

years ago. Really? Yeah, it was one where

1:07:21

there was like a guy in a wheelchair

1:07:24

and there were like, dangerous people were coming

1:07:26

in like you were trapped in a bar

1:07:28

or something. Feast, maybe the horror movie. Yeah,

1:07:30

yeah, yeah, yeah. I just remembered that. That's

1:07:32

crazy. Yeah, oh, I was not any good.

1:07:35

I'm not a good idea. I would not,

1:07:37

I think it's a bad idea to do

1:07:39

that. I did a bad idea to do.

1:07:41

I did to do you to do you

1:07:43

to do you to do you to do

1:07:46

you to do you, Project Green Light Project

1:07:48

Green Light Project Green Light Project Green Light.

1:07:50

It's not, I mean, it's not currently, we

1:07:52

did it with the company we have them,

1:07:54

but we are not doing it now. And

1:07:57

we took it, we had it on for

1:07:59

a while back then and then brought it

1:08:01

back. And it's interesting, I really liked it

1:08:03

and I thought it was interesting. that like

1:08:05

because it's because that's what I do and

1:08:08

I know okay that's tricky like it's hard

1:08:10

you get all this drama that comes up

1:08:12

on a movie but when we had like

1:08:14

a million dollars to make the movie and

1:08:16

everything like a million dollars like that's like

1:08:18

nothing and now it's almost setting people up

1:08:21

it would kind of just be like then

1:08:23

you just be doing a show about people

1:08:25

getting in arguments and smashing things and having

1:08:27

a breakdown because you can't really even do

1:08:29

it for a million dollars like tons of

1:08:32

change and wages all that stuff like you're

1:08:34

you know so but I really liked that

1:08:36

idea of that show and what we were

1:08:38

able because to me it was about like

1:08:40

also creating opportunities for people that are outside

1:08:43

Hollywood you know who could come in and

1:08:45

be like look I know what I'm doing

1:08:47

I want to do something and then you

1:08:49

got to like okay well let's see what

1:08:51

you can do what um do you think

1:08:54

Tom Brady's good as an announcer I think

1:08:56

he's Smart obviously about football. I think that

1:08:58

like it's a it's a People kind of

1:09:00

you and you're the like the greatest quarterback

1:09:02

ever lived they think well, okay now he's

1:09:05

gonna come in and change Broadcasting for good

1:09:07

and and like just being a normal human

1:09:09

being seems kind of like I mean who

1:09:11

do you want to listen to analyze something

1:09:13

like if I want to like somebody to

1:09:15

tell me about like a concert like I

1:09:18

want to hear from you know some great

1:09:20

musician you know if I'm if you're you

1:09:22

figure well nobody's gonna have better or wiser

1:09:24

analysis than Tom maybe not about like telling

1:09:26

jokes or whatever that's something jokes or whatever

1:09:29

that's something different or whatever that's something different

1:09:31

yeah but yeah I think so but yeah

1:09:33

I think so and he's a surgeon he

1:09:35

seems like a surgeon when he's talking about

1:09:37

it's definitely you start to see who he

1:09:40

really is. Like how much analysis went into

1:09:42

that. I still think one of his like

1:09:44

real, like one of the things that really

1:09:46

separate him because you know everybody knows about

1:09:48

how like you know he you know he

1:09:51

was like drafted late and all this stuff

1:09:53

like and this you know his like combined

1:09:55

numbers weren't like you know all that stuff

1:09:57

people weren't just like this guy's gonna be

1:09:59

amazing. I feel like one of the things

1:10:02

that he has that people didn't really talk

1:10:04

about is like and this is like He

1:10:06

just doesn't get nervous. Like, I think that

1:10:08

there is a huge advantage. Imagine like you're

1:10:10

in the Super Bowl. Oh, yeah. And it's

1:10:13

like, you know, fourth and eight and you

1:10:15

got, you know, you don't get nervous and

1:10:17

you win. You're good? Everyone else is a

1:10:19

heart rate of banging their adrenaline. I think

1:10:21

it's what makes actors good too. Good actors

1:10:23

at certain moments. Getting relaxed, the ability to

1:10:26

relax in tense situations where other people get

1:10:28

tense, because tension and stress, it locks you

1:10:30

up, you panic, it's like you panic, it's

1:10:32

like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's

1:10:34

like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's

1:10:37

like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's

1:10:39

like, it's, it's like, it's like, it's like,

1:10:41

it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,

1:10:43

it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,

1:10:45

it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,

1:10:48

it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,

1:10:50

it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,

1:10:52

it's like, it's like, it's like, it's in

1:10:54

here. Why are we doing that? I'm sorry,

1:10:56

that was not a plan. Oh yeah, dude,

1:10:59

I want to tell you about the you

1:11:01

ever see that Duncan Donuts commercial because I

1:11:03

know you did a commercial with them. Yeah.

1:11:05

You ever see the one where they shut

1:11:07

down that one and, uh, uh, is it

1:11:10

Boy Show Boyke? Well, what is it? I

1:11:12

play. Shamoken. Duncan's closed by five. My favorite,

1:11:14

dude. A coffee shop in Shimoken is closed

1:11:16

following in arson over the weekend. We say

1:11:18

a teenager is responsible for all that damage.

1:11:20

He's watched 16th, Nicki Cries, joined this live

1:11:23

from the Central Pennsylvania Newsroom with more. Tonight,

1:11:25

Nicki? Julie, a lot of people in Shimoken

1:11:27

are upset that Dunkin Donuts is closed because

1:11:29

they didn't have anywhere else to go for

1:11:31

coffee and donuts. Today we also learned new

1:11:34

information about the teenage girl police charged with

1:11:36

setting the place on fire. Setting the fire

1:11:38

is currently at a juvenile detention center. Many

1:11:40

people who live in Shimoken are upset that

1:11:42

Duncan Donuts is closed. Now I have to

1:11:45

relay myself to go to maybe a turkey

1:11:47

hill or something where I don't like their

1:11:49

donuts. I rather the donuts at Duncan Donuts.

1:11:51

And I'm kind of dealing with it, but...

1:11:53

I really miss Dunkin' Donuts. I go there

1:11:56

every day. I get a chicken baker crescant

1:11:58

where I get some coffee, power rate, if

1:12:00

we're dehydrated, I sit there all the time.

1:12:02

If I have any legal work that I

1:12:04

need to do, I go there, I meet

1:12:07

with my attorneys there. I'm going to miss

1:12:09

that place. What's going on? And a lot

1:12:11

of my friends go in there, get the

1:12:13

cold coffee. Well ice coffee I guess it's

1:12:15

called Yeah, they'll miss their local hangout and

1:12:18

hope yeah Anyway, that's just that when that

1:12:20

one closed down man, it was just like

1:12:22

a real people kind of went bananas on

1:12:24

the internet. Because it turns out guys, that's

1:12:26

the legal clinic that shut down to best

1:12:28

mark. I sit there with my attorneys. You

1:12:31

know, my probation officer meets me in there.

1:12:33

I usually deal out of that place. Like,

1:12:35

all right. Yeah, you're just, you don't know

1:12:37

when a Duncan bonus closes down, you don't

1:12:39

realize how many lives intersecting that one place.

1:12:42

Yeah. What's something else that you want to

1:12:44

direct to? And he's great. And I think,

1:12:46

and that's really what you kind of, like,

1:12:48

no matter what you do, a big part

1:12:50

of it is, you know, 90% of it

1:12:53

is, is they say, is like picking the

1:12:55

right actors. Because there's really nothing you can

1:12:57

do. You're kind of like, okay, now go

1:12:59

ahead and you can, you know, get about

1:13:01

10% calibration, but the right people for the

1:13:04

right role is so much a part of

1:13:06

what goes into directing. There's a lot of

1:13:08

actors that I would love to work with.

1:13:10

I haven't worked on. I'm lucky to have

1:13:12

worked with some great ones so far. And

1:13:15

I have a movie that I've just finished

1:13:17

shooting called Animals That's Make Your Own Movie.

1:13:19

Yeah, and I direct it. And I may

1:13:21

even direct another movie next year, which is

1:13:23

actually pretty quick, but it's not all set

1:13:25

up yet. But it's something that I really

1:13:28

love doing. And I will do it, like,

1:13:30

especially like. I got one kid that's you

1:13:32

know in college now and the other two

1:13:34

like by the time of my son who's

1:13:36

who's 13 goes college then I plan on

1:13:39

kind of just directing all the time but

1:13:41

like I said it takes so much focus

1:13:43

and energy that one of the regrets I

1:13:45

have even about movies that I really like

1:13:47

and I'm proud of is like what periods

1:13:50

of time that I miss with my kids

1:13:52

because that that that just doesn't come back.

1:13:54

You almost have to play in head like

1:13:56

okay maybe they're gonna be on a semester.

1:13:58

or this is going to be going on.

1:14:01

Or like this, I'm like, I do them

1:14:03

in LA, you know what I mean? So

1:14:05

not travel, something can be home for dinner

1:14:07

and come, you know, and just make that

1:14:09

a priority. But it's a part of why

1:14:12

I slow down a bunch from directing because

1:14:14

it just. in order to do it in

1:14:16

a way that I understood that it required

1:14:18

like it just requires almost total commitment and

1:14:20

concentration. Yeah man because we got to keep

1:14:23

telling good stories because it's important that's how

1:14:25

people learn things and that's how you remember

1:14:27

things and they become part of like you

1:14:29

know history they really kind of tell history

1:14:31

a lot of times. Yeah it's definitely interesting

1:14:33

about Oh, you said something about, oh, yeah,

1:14:36

the shooting in Hollywood has become so tough,

1:14:38

huh? But it's supposed to, it's supposed to

1:14:40

be getting easier. Well, you know, it's tricky

1:14:42

because what happened, one of the things that's

1:14:44

happened is that, like, first of all, movies

1:14:47

just used to be made here, like, you

1:14:49

know, country music was made national. Like, that's

1:14:51

how it was. and then you had other

1:14:53

states and countries that started kind of offering

1:14:55

incentives because they felt like you know if

1:14:58

we bring this business here and like it

1:15:00

stimulates all our other businesses because there's this

1:15:02

huge kind of trickle-down effect of from the

1:15:04

restaurants the dry cleaners to you know drivers

1:15:06

to blah blah blah blah all this money

1:15:09

into the economy and you know LA or

1:15:11

California didn't really I think I'm not sure

1:15:13

what happened. They didn't respond or try to

1:15:15

compete. They have a small incentive now, and

1:15:17

they've actually broadened it some, and I think

1:15:20

they're aware of it, but it's tricky, whereas

1:15:22

other states, and they're kind of controversial, some

1:15:24

states have felt like they worked out for

1:15:26

them, and they're kind of controversial, some states

1:15:28

have felt like they worked out for them,

1:15:30

and they're happy, they worked out for them,

1:15:33

and they're happy. it in some weird way

1:15:35

it's hard to figure out yeah I'm not

1:15:37

I don't really know enough about the politics

1:15:39

of it to know it seems to me

1:15:41

like I think it's like well we've always

1:15:44

had it here we don't have to give

1:15:46

the incentives like that's what's pulling people right

1:15:48

people it but it's like it's like but

1:15:50

now everybody's moved and moved move it away

1:15:52

and move around and if you can't make

1:15:55

a movie without the the crew is what's

1:15:57

gonna make or break your movie now you

1:15:59

have 3,000 people flying to like to bed

1:16:01

or whatever to shoot for you know like

1:16:03

the UK they give out they do these

1:16:06

big areas so you're like yeah Louisiana did

1:16:08

it for a lot of Potter movies and

1:16:10

all the like DC movies all these this

1:16:12

stuff goes and shoots like out of the

1:16:14

country you know look it's I obviously selfishly

1:16:17

like this is where my kids are so

1:16:19

this is where I want to be but

1:16:21

also the best technicians I believe in the

1:16:23

world by and large are here and they're

1:16:25

really artists too and they're ready to work

1:16:27

too a lot of live in work and

1:16:30

looking at these fires and all this stuff

1:16:32

it's like but look it's hard all over

1:16:34

and I get it I don't begrudge anybody

1:16:36

anything I would like to preserve like look

1:16:38

it's a big business for this country right

1:16:41

like show business this is something that we

1:16:43

make that it really buys all over the

1:16:45

world oh for sure a lot of shit

1:16:47

from other countries right like this something that

1:16:49

people want to buy from us well I'm

1:16:52

amazed that I was talking about this with

1:16:54

somebody and it may have been I can't

1:16:56

remember my brain's awful on the weekend but

1:16:58

but we're talking about how California hasn't really

1:17:00

done a great job of a great job

1:17:03

of like like kind of museuming some of

1:17:05

the All a lot of great parts about

1:17:07

that were in movies and like, you know,

1:17:09

Sydney Portier. This is where he lived for

1:17:11

20 years or you know This is the

1:17:14

bad newsbearers park where they play like Brady

1:17:16

Bunch House right there's some of it But

1:17:18

and it's like bits and pieces on the

1:17:20

internet, but it doesn't seem as preserved like

1:17:22

when you get here you almost think I

1:17:25

know it would seem like more of a

1:17:27

museum in itself because at the time I

1:17:29

think people just didn't think about it's didn't

1:17:31

think about or somebody's thinking about it or

1:17:33

somebody's house. It's kind of like, I think

1:17:35

California, I'm not, I still feel like, you

1:17:38

know, I'm a resident now like that, I'm

1:17:40

from somewhere else, you know, from Boston. And

1:17:42

so, yeah, for sure, Massachusetts is like, it's

1:17:44

felt, I think in a way like, hey,

1:17:46

people come here, you know what I mean?

1:17:49

So we don't need to bring people here,

1:17:51

but like times are changing, like you say

1:17:53

is changing, it's, it's, you know, the, the,

1:17:55

the, number you're looking at the thing that

1:17:57

people one thing that people watch more than

1:18:00

anything else just you know you to yeah

1:18:02

know for exactly but account two is in

1:18:04

account who's out theaters on Friday and this

1:18:06

Friday yes yeah go out and see it

1:18:08

and you and you and I take a

1:18:11

date do I take a date do I

1:18:13

take my cause who do I take your

1:18:15

whole family everybody you know Actually, the truth

1:18:17

is it is a movie that anybody can

1:18:19

see like, well, real accountants can see, real

1:18:22

accountants better like, that's the core. If a

1:18:24

cat's don't like it, we're so fucked. I

1:18:26

mean, you know what I'm saying? You're even

1:18:28

going to call the movie the waiter, and

1:18:30

waiters don't go. You think anyone else is

1:18:32

coming? But, uh, yeah, man, it's a movie

1:18:35

that I think, honestly, like, works for, you

1:18:37

know, you know, it's... It's smart and it's

1:18:39

not like, oh well, only young people like

1:18:41

this, or only old people like this. It's

1:18:43

got everything, it's hard to make a movie

1:18:46

that I think strikes this chord and kind

1:18:48

of works for a broad audience and it

1:18:50

is better seeing it in the theater. So,

1:18:52

and it's one that I'm, we want to

1:18:54

leverage my kind of personal word and credibility.

1:18:57

I'm like, go see it, you won't regret

1:18:59

it, it, it's really good. You heard that,

1:19:01

Ben Affleck, thanks man, thanks, thanks for coming

1:19:03

in, thanks for coming in, and just sharing

1:19:05

it, and just sharing it, and just sharing

1:19:08

it, and just sharing it, and just, and

1:19:10

thinking, and thinking, and thinking, and thinking, and

1:19:12

thinking, and thinking, and thinking, and thinking, and

1:19:14

thinking, and thinking, and thinking, and thinking, and,

1:19:16

and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and,

1:19:19

and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and,

1:19:21

and, and, Thank you. And I think a

1:19:23

lot of people will. I hope so. Listen,

1:19:25

a lot of people listen to the show.

1:19:27

So I appreciate it very, very much. We'll

1:19:30

see. Tell your son I said hello. I

1:19:32

will, dude. That's right there. That's the whole

1:19:34

reason for coming right there. That makes me

1:19:36

cool right there. Now, I'm just floating on

1:19:38

the breeze and I feel like I'm falling.

1:19:40

and feel it in the ball.