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One hello . Thank you for tuning in to . No race

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like home . I'm your host . Justin here

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is saying , as always hey , what's going on ? Guys

0:22

? As you see , we kind of got a new setup going on

0:24

here if you're tuning in on YouTube , but

0:27

we are actually trying to make

0:30

our way more on YouTube because we realized we do have

0:32

Some fans that want to tune

0:34

in Watching via video

0:37

.

0:37

So yeah , dude , it's been great . I mean , I

0:39

think the moving on from the fantasy

0:42

Podcast to coming over to here

0:44

it's been . It's been eye-opening

0:46

for me and I've been using the stuff that you've actually told

0:48

me and me and Kaylee's relationship , so it's been

0:50

actually pretty cool .

0:51

That's awesome to hear . I uh , I

0:53

could tell that we are becoming more , I guess

0:55

, valuable in our what we're talking

0:58

about now , because people are actually like interacting on

1:00

Stuff yeah just

1:02

football , like there's guys and sharing

1:04

stuff for wives , comedy , saying like amen

1:07

, this is actually really

1:09

good , good job , good work . This

1:11

is actually impacting people . So I mean , that's

1:13

kind of what my vision was . Behind

1:15

it was actually , you know .

1:16

I think it's so funny because Kaylee

1:18

, she's like this is actually something I can listen

1:21

to . My mom she was

1:23

like I actually listened to y'all's podcast , I mean

1:25

the football ones . They were hard to go through

1:27

, but yeah , right now . It's

1:29

actually been pretty cool .

1:30

So yeah , if you don't watch football , I mean you're not gonna

1:32

Really pay attention to what's

1:34

going on , especially when it was just fantasy football

1:36

. Yeah , not everybody's in the fantasy

1:38

like we are , which I'm honestly trying

1:41

to tune that back , or

1:43

tone that back next year , because that they got a little

1:45

outhand .

1:46

Yeah , you're a little more than I am . Yeah

1:48

, what's your , what's your story of the

1:50

week ?

1:50

So we last on Monday story

1:52

of the week is my wife got sick Saturday

1:54

, okay , jet got sick Monday

1:57

, oakley got sick Tuesday

1:59

and then I was sick Wednesday through yesterday , so

2:02

that's why there hasn't been much content out . Yeah

2:04

, other than that , my other story is

2:06

is my e-commerce business is finally

2:09

up and running Okay , officially launched

2:11

. It's actually gonna

2:13

be built around our podcast

2:15

. I have actually a lot ideas about that and I'm gonna

2:18

share that around social media . But

2:21

basically it's gonna be an online store for dads

2:23

and moms and have different categories

2:25

for whatnot and Fitness

2:27

moms , sports moms , dads

2:29

like golf , and just have a bunch of different things that they

2:31

can go on and shop for okay

2:33

, kids toys . Yeah , so I like all objects

2:35

, favorite toys and what that .

2:37

That's cool , yeah , no , so I say

2:39

I'm on the same deal . I think you kind of got sick the same

2:42

same day . I started on Wednesday and

2:44

I've

2:46

pretty much been out since . I think

2:48

today's like my first day outside of the house

2:50

, really , other than a few things I

2:52

had to do at work .

2:53

Yeah , it was definitely Cambria's fault .

2:55

Yeah , no , no , I'm a camper started it

2:57

. The whole plague Want

2:59

to call it well , I think it , everyone's been

3:01

getting sick . I mean , if you look at , you

3:04

know , I Know six

3:06

people that are sick right now . Yeah , michael .

3:08

Parsons has a flu , right , I don't know what

3:10

. Yeah , he's got something .

3:12

Yeah , my mom's sick now . I think

3:14

I got my mom sick . Yeah , there's

3:16

been a lot of people sick recently . Yeah

3:18

season at work .

3:19

It's been going around just pretty much

3:21

every other department . Somebody's getting sick , yeah

3:24

, but no . So

3:26

I had a few things I wanted to bring up today . I don't

3:28

mean , one of them is actually probably gonna

3:31

cause some controversy , but it's good . I

3:33

mean , I've always thought , if you are

3:35

, if everybody agrees with what you say

3:37

, you're probably not right . Okay

3:39

, I've always been kind of true believer in

3:41

that If you're doing the same , if

3:44

you're doing the same thing as everyone else , you're probably not

3:46

gonna be an impact to change the world

3:48

. But that'll be the last segment that we dive into

3:50

, okay . First

3:52

one I got today , honestly , though , is I want to talk about

3:54

men in the workplace , not really just men , my

3:57

husband's and what's kind of like the do's

3:59

and don'ts , because there is a lot of controversy

4:01

when it comes to how you're supposed to behave at

4:04

work and how people have those office

4:06

wives and I . I

4:08

really just want to dive into that and see what you think

4:10

and what you think is the right

4:12

or the right way to carry that and

4:15

bring it home .

4:16

Okay .

4:18

I mean to me honestly , the whole working wife

4:20

thing I think is Definitely

4:22

something that is a joke , obviously

4:24

, but I don't think it's something to be a mess

4:27

around with . You probably should have some more respect

4:29

for your wife than have a working wife or Even

4:32

like a little flirty relationship at the office

4:34

. Yeah , I , I

4:36

think my number one thing would be is for

4:39

me is I

4:41

don't think it's Right to

4:43

ever go to like lunch one on one with another female

4:45

, or even lunch with other

4:47

females , and if there's no men around , what

4:50

do you think about that ?

4:52

No , so I know

4:54

there's some type of jobs with , like marketing

4:57

, wise right . So where you need to

4:59

go out and take different people

5:01

out to try to get business from them yeah

5:04

, to where it's part of it , but I think

5:06

you got to make sure to keep the boundary with it .

5:08

Yeah , and I get that if it's like a sales meeting or

5:10

anything like that , where it's kind of like your professional

5:12

duty to have those meetings . I'm

5:15

mainly talking about just like the casual lunch

5:17

with Employees

5:19

, like team members at your Company

5:22

.

5:22

Yeah , no , I don't think we've ever really done

5:24

that . I think at any time . Most

5:26

of the time when we go out for like lunch or something

5:28

with people from work , it's always multiple people

5:31

. The

5:33

only time that I could see something before picking up Something

5:35

from the same place and coming back to the office . Yeah

5:38

, to me , I find that .

5:40

That's a little different .

5:41

I find that fine . But

5:44

yeah , no , I agree with you a hundred percent on

5:46

making sure that when

5:49

you are married and you're not we

5:51

already said this last podcast I don't think you should try

5:53

to get in a relationship with anyone . Yeah

5:55

, that you work with you are married . Yeah

5:57

, especially if you are married . But

6:00

I agree with you a hundred percent you

6:02

should not yeah be doing that with you .

6:03

No , and I get , I mean , and even

6:06

if you have all the right intentions , like For

6:09

me , like if I went to lunch with someone from

6:11

the office , obviously I wouldn't have the wrong intentions

6:13

, but even from the outside looking in , that's

6:15

just not . I just feel like it's not a way

6:17

of showing your Wife respect , to glorify

6:19

her , when people in office know you're married

6:22

and they see you going out to eat with another woman

6:24

. Even if there's just a friendship .

6:26

It's almost like planting the seed . If you keep

6:28

on doing it , yeah , eventually over

6:30

time Seeds , if

6:32

they keep on getting water poured on them , they're gonna

6:34

end up growing , yeah , and so that's

6:36

what I think about when get going one-on-one

6:39

a lot of times with Ladies

6:42

, one-on-one lunch dates . It's

6:44

just planting a seed .

6:45

Yeah , I agree with that . That's why I even listen to

6:47

a lot of podcasts where these men talk

6:50

about how , like , guys can't have friends

6:52

are girls , and I 100% agree with that or

6:54

a married man Can't

6:56

really have friends are females , unless , obviously

6:59

, the friend in part of the friend group . Yeah

7:01

, I don't think it's possible for a grown

7:03

man To have a friend that's

7:05

a female .

7:06

I think that was one of the biggest problems when

7:08

I first got in the relationship , because there

7:11

there's this saying that goes around no

7:13

man especially like when you're younger

7:15

and you're single no man is ever

7:17

friends with a female Ever

7:20

no , it's , you're not .

7:21

And and someone says they are , than their line .

7:23

So , in my defense , okay , I

7:25

had a lot of friends that I grew

7:28

up with from elementary school All

7:30

the way up to high school , and so we were

7:32

friends . Yeah , it's never something

7:34

that I saw any

7:36

other type of way . I never tried to pursue

7:38

them , never tried to do anything like that , and that

7:41

was a big humbling that I had to come

7:44

to realize when I got with Kaylee

7:46

, because I was friends with a lot of girls and I

7:48

would never really go hang out with them a whole bunch , one-on-one

7:50

, yeah , but we

7:53

would go hang out , and it

7:56

took me realizing that it was hurting Kaylee's

7:58

Feelings at

8:00

a sense , because I'm playing

8:03

both sides . If she were to do that with another

8:05

guy , oh , you wouldn't have it , it's yeah

8:07

, cuz I know how guys think . So

8:11

it's , it's all that . When you get into a relationship

8:13

, you need to make sure to Keep it in a friend

8:15

group . If you want to go out , if you do have a friend , that's

8:17

a girl , and

8:19

if you're a girl and this friend get along really

8:21

great and your girl , that's a friend

8:24

, it's a guy , y'all can do double dates and stuff

8:26

like that .

8:26

Keep it in a group . Yeah , absolutely . And I'm not saying

8:28

you can't have friends , that girls just I don't

8:31

see the fact that I

8:33

go like hang out with my friends and they're all

8:35

girls , that that can't be a thing . You

8:37

just if what people say , they're just a friend . There's

8:40

typically something .

8:41

Alcohol gets involved .

8:43

some happens , yeah , but yeah

8:45

, I'm glad we both kind of agree on that and

8:47

I know it honestly is a controversy thing

8:49

because there are Men out there who

8:51

will go to watch and stuff with and I

8:53

when I'm , when they're married , and hang out girls

8:55

and they're they think it's no

8:57

big deal but you know , I

9:00

bet they don't tell their wives exactly

9:02

yeah . I guarantee it . So no

9:04

, yeah , that's why I really don't . I don't

9:06

go to like any , like happy hours or anything . That's my

9:09

wife's there , so okay but

9:11

it's a . It's honestly hard , because there are

9:13

days where Everybody's

9:15

going out and I , I don't .

9:17

So Well , that's just part of the position

9:19

that you're into . You know you want to make

9:21

sure to kind of go above , stay

9:23

away from those kind of environments . With the position

9:26

that you're in at milestone , no , I agree with that

9:28

for sure .

9:30

Yeah , anything else to add on to that ? No , I think I'm

9:32

good on that . One next talking point I had

9:34

today was it was

9:36

going to be about how

9:39

. How

9:41

get dads have

9:43

to constantly fight with

9:46

With a decision

9:48

being made at the home , whether they're right or wrong , whether

9:51

it's financially , emotionally

9:54

, how , like how to just

9:56

deal with every day being the guy

9:58

who has to make the decisions , the critical decisions

10:00

in life ? And I wanted to

10:02

see maybe if you had some instances

10:05

, maybe with fellow colleagues

10:07

or friends or your

10:09

dad or anyone your family , where

10:12

you've had to see where sometimes

10:14

the decisions they make Weren't the

10:16

easiest ones to make , but they're our best ones for their family

10:18

. Um , they

10:21

may be like a career change or anything like that

10:23

, where you know there's a bunch of risk .

10:25

Well , I know there was one where . So my dad

10:27

worked in a little field when , for

10:30

12 years and there

10:32

was a time where you

10:35

know my we were going through some

10:37

family issues at the time with

10:40

my siblings and my

10:42

parents were wanting to look at getting a new start and

10:45

we were actually planning on moving

10:47

to Pennsylvania . Oh

10:49

, geez , yeah , we were supposed to be

10:52

. I was in fourth grade , fourth or

10:54

fifth grade . We were actually supposed to pick up

10:56

and move to Pennsylvania . That's where my dad's job was

10:58

gonna take him . I did not know that , yeah , and

11:00

it's something that I did not want at all

11:02

, and

11:05

my mom and dad were talking back and forth

11:07

and my mom works in health care , so she knew

11:09

that , hey , I know I could find a job out .

11:11

Yeah , it's a trade . Yeah , I'll talk

11:13

on that later and my , my dad

11:15

.

11:15

He had a good opportunity for him , and

11:17

so that was one of the decisions that we had

11:19

to ultimately make as a family , to

11:22

where , if we did move , we

11:24

wouldn't have any help . It would just be my parents

11:26

and us , and that's it . Yeah , all of our families

11:28

. Over here , we don't have no family . We got family everywhere

11:30

, but not Pennsylvania . I promise you that . All right , yeah

11:33

. Yeah

11:37

and I think that was

11:39

one of the bigger decisions . The

11:41

way my parents kind of work , I

11:43

they really talk it out and

11:45

they have to both agree on the decision . There

11:48

isn't really one right . There's different

11:50

things that come up .

11:51

Yeah .

11:53

So if it's about a truck , my

11:55

dad makes a final decision . If it's about , you

11:58

know , the house , my parents need to come together

12:00

and both agree on I agree with that .

12:02

It kind of is like a teamwork Strategy

12:05

. There was saying with me and Cambria like decisions

12:08

for like school decisions

12:11

and stuff like that . I kind of let her handle . How

12:14

do y'all ?

12:14

so this is coming from my perspective yeah , because

12:17

I haven't had to make those Huge

12:19

, huge decisions yet . So I think one of the biggest decisions

12:21

from mine was just switching companies that I was

12:23

with , yeah , and ultimately

12:26

that was my decision

12:28

. It wasn't gonna move me and Kaylee anywhere . It

12:30

was gonna keep us at the same spot . It was just about

12:32

making sure that we would both be able to financially

12:35

Take care of ourselves

12:37

in the meantime , before I everything got picked up

12:39

on the new job . How do you and Cambria

12:41

kind of go through that together

12:43

when y'all do have big decisions ?

12:45

Oh man , most . So this

12:47

is something we actually do that I know

12:49

people all Really

12:53

ask questions about it Just based off social

12:55

media and what we've discussed is

12:57

we actually have like our own personal on

13:01

Business meetings , like

13:03

obviously any effective company had

13:05

they have meetings , so I wouldn't . You have meetings

13:07

with your family . So me and Cambria

13:09

will actually sit down like once or twice a month

13:11

and just discuss what's coming up , the decisions

13:14

we're making , what our finances

13:16

look like , what should we should do together

13:18

what's on

13:20

a calendar for birthdays , dinners , like anything

13:23

and everything . We literally two to three times a month

13:25

Sit down , have our own Robinson family

13:27

meeting . Yeah like and

13:29

it may I mean if we

13:31

say Robinson .

13:32

I know , maybe the two babies aren't

13:34

.

13:35

Yeah , just me and y'all bring okay , no , no , just

13:37

me and Cam and but

13:39

it makes sense . I mean , if businesses are gonna have , when they

13:41

have 500 people or more plus and

13:43

they need to have a meeting , that you probably should have a meeting

13:46

when it comes to your most , probably the most important thing your

13:48

life , it's your family when the kids

13:50

do get older and you're

13:52

making not huge decisions

13:54

for the kids , but Decisions

13:57

for the kids .

13:57

Ultimately , you know what team there

14:00

, what sport they're gonna play , if they're gonna be

14:02

, you're y'all gonna do meetings , like with the kids , or

14:04

I'll make sure

14:06

we most like will have the same kind

14:08

of meetings and we've kind of started

14:10

incorporating Kinsey of them a little bit .

14:13

Friends , for example , the e-commerce

14:16

business I am starting . I actually want to give

14:18

that to Kinsey , whatever for her 12th

14:20

birthday , so I'm hoping I get it up and running

14:22

and Making some kind

14:24

of income so where she can kind of

14:26

take over that business and do it and learn on herself

14:28

and she'll have something to the . I

14:31

basically want to pay her salary based off her

14:33

sales commission and she can

14:35

make as much money as she possibly wants at 12 years old

14:37

.

14:37

Well , so definitely like that . She likes fashion

14:40

. So , literally , guys , right before we got

14:42

this podcast started , she came in here and she was

14:44

like Zane should , what

14:46

shoes should I wear ? And she lifted two pairs of shoes

14:49

and she was like she's this one or this one .

14:50

Yeah , about fashion right

14:53

now yeah she has a group chat called the fashion

14:55

queen , but

14:57

they have like 28 group chats . I have

14:59

one and I'm over it , so I don't know how they

15:01

Mine's on mute all

15:03

day .

15:04

Well , uh , If this is too

15:06

personal it's fine , but what big decisions

15:08

like have you and Kimber have had to make

15:10

this past year ? And we were talking a little bit

15:12

back earlier . I know y'all have

15:14

some big things kind of coming . Yeah

15:16

for y'all as a couple .

15:18

Well , our largest decision

15:20

was probably a year and a half ago , maybe two . Whatever

15:23

she got pregnant

15:25

, though , who's the point here ? We decided that

15:28

she would stay at home . She would know I'd

15:30

be working . She's in real

15:32

estate , but that's kind of like just a hybrid job

15:34

, where , if it falls into her lap , she sells

15:36

it , but she's not going out every day hustling , showing

15:39

homes or anything like that , which is kind of what

15:41

you have to do in that industry to be successful

15:43

. Yeah so that was the largest . The

15:46

biggest decision we've made was her staying

15:48

home and then second Probably

15:51

, was having Oakley if we wanted to keep

15:53

going or not . I'm going , but we

15:55

decided that three kids plenty , and

15:58

so we decided that we we're

16:00

gonna stop our family at three and

16:02

then see what the Lord brings us now

16:05

. What's next in our chapter yeah

16:07

, that was part of our decision is whether we were done having

16:09

kids or not .

16:10

Okay .

16:10

Yeah , that and her staying home . I

16:13

was staying home . One was not easy because obviously

16:15

if you know the

16:17

financial load like it's just it's different

16:19

. You have to change your whole lifestyle .

16:21

It was a whole salary , so yeah , no

16:24

, it's no joke , it was not easy . That was

16:26

. That was one that when me and Kaylee and

16:28

when I was with my last

16:30

job , she ended up , we

16:33

that was probably one of the decisions

16:35

that mean her talk there she was going through schooling

16:37

to become a teacher and she

16:39

was struggling so bad . I mean she , what

16:42

teachers have to go through honestly is

16:44

Kind of insane

16:46

. Yeah , now they're starting to put

16:49

grants , but when you're a student teacher you

16:51

do not get paid . When you have to show up Monday

16:53

through Friday from 7 am

16:55

To 3 45 pm , you

16:57

don't get paid anything . That just blows my mind

16:59

. And it's just an internship

17:02

that you spend there all day , monday through

17:04

Friday , and you're just good

17:06

luck . Yeah , and

17:08

she was struggling so hard she would go to work

17:10

for first couple weeks of school

17:12

and that was one of the decisions . I said

17:14

Kaylee , our relationship was kind of straining

17:16

a little bit . We weren't spending time with each other . She

17:20

was always in a bad , a bad

17:22

mood , but understandably she was working

17:24

. I mean , when she was doing her student teaching she

17:26

was working . That's a full-time job . Yeah , she was

17:28

working easily probably almost

17:30

80 hours a week . And that academy , yeah

17:33

, and that's what that's all saying at the school

17:35

and working a second job and working on weekends

17:38

. And One of the biggest things that

17:40

she she grew to resent

17:42

me to a certain extent

17:44

and this is what we had this communication

17:46

conversation about was because

17:49

during the weekends I had off , so

17:51

I would go out , I went to Cowboys games

17:53

, I would go hang

17:56

out with Hunter and

17:58

just go to a bar or something . And it's

18:00

not that I didn't want to do those things with her , she was

18:03

just always busy . And so it got to the point where I was like

18:05

, okay , look , this is what

18:07

it is , I can take care of the bills . Is

18:10

this something that you would want to do ? And you could honestly

18:12

just see the load taken off of her at

18:14

that moment . She

18:17

was wearing herself out . I mean , when she

18:19

stopped doing that working and going

18:21

to school , she actually got sick

18:24

because her body wasn't

18:26

used to relaxing at

18:28

that point and she was just worn

18:30

out all the time . So that was that was probably

18:32

my biggest one of my mean Kaylee's

18:34

biggest decisions early was

18:37

her stopping that working for that point Because

18:39

it was just stressing her out too much .

18:41

No , I agree with that . That's kind of the reason why we and Cambria

18:43

decided for her to stay home . I read two kids

18:45

at the time . I'm

18:48

on the road , a lot racing , and then when I'm not on the

18:50

road , I'm working , so like there

18:52

was no reason to cause more stress on her life , I didn't

18:54

need to be there . Yeah , and obviously it

18:56

made me have to carry the load

18:59

a little bit more , but that's part of my job as a husband

19:01

, so I'm not too wasn't

19:03

too concerned about it . Adding a third

19:05

kid definitely

19:08

makes that load way a little bit more . Yeah

19:11

, you must sign the hurry up and get potty trained

19:14

.

19:15

Oh , my goodness Okay .

19:16

But yeah , it's a that's . Making

19:18

decisions is not easy and I

19:20

know a lot of times that can cause some

19:22

strife or chaos

19:24

in your relationships and

19:27

the best way I think you can

19:29

work through that is have those meetings and

19:31

discuss what those

19:33

opportunities are before they get there

19:35

, like if you can see two months out like , hey

19:37

, this is going to be something we need to discuss . I

19:40

think it's going to help put down those walls

19:42

and keep the conflict out of your marriage

19:44

.

19:44

And one of the things when making decisions

19:46

to this was something that happened

19:49

with me me and Kaylee

19:51

. We were . I

19:54

had a vision right On what we're we're starting

19:56

to do it now , yeah , but I

19:58

had a vision and I knew what I

20:00

wanted to do . I never truly

20:02

explained what the vision was , yeah , and

20:04

so Kaylee was just sitting there

20:07

. She was like dude , what the heck

20:09

? Like , what are we doing ? Yeah

20:11

, and I was just sitting

20:13

back and I was like , just trust me , like this

20:15

, I have a plan to spawn . We're going to be good Explaining

20:18

a plan ultimately to , because a

20:20

lot of women I'm not saying all women , a lot

20:23

of women do not think months

20:26

or years into the future . They

20:29

think that right now , what's going , what's

20:31

happening right now , and there's nothing wrong with

20:33

that . That's that , honestly , is great , because

20:35

it helps them stay in the moment with the kids , with

20:38

you know the love life , with

20:40

everything like that . They stay in the moment .

20:41

It also keeps us in check , because yeah absolutely

20:44

, we definitely are visionaries , or

20:46

I mean me for sure .

20:47

I mean yeah , no , and one of the one

20:50

of the things . I was talking to

20:53

this lady and she was like we

20:55

got into this conversation . I don't even know how we got into this

20:57

conversation . She looked at me . She said have you explained

21:00

it to her ? Have you broken it down for exactly

21:02

what you're going to do ? Yeah , and

21:04

I'll sit there looking at her and I was like , no

21:07

, I have it . And so , making the decisions

21:09

, making the hard decisions

21:11

that you're having to make , if they

21:13

don't see it eye to eye , try

21:16

explaining it to them in full detail

21:18

, what exactly you're wanting to do and wanting to accomplish

21:20

. And a lot of times , if , if

21:23

it's a good plan or if it's something that your

21:25

significant others willing to do , they're

21:27

going to back you up on 100% . And that's where me and

21:29

her are now . Yeah , the

21:31

season of life that me and her are in , it's not the easiest

21:34

, but we're doing it right now because we know we

21:37

have a deadline and this is after this

21:39

deadline . We're moving forward , we're taking a step forward

21:41

.

21:41

Yeah , and I agree with that , and me

21:44

and Cambry have this running joke where

21:46

I basically told her she's a red flag , like

21:49

anything I bring up or discuss

21:51

. She's like her automatic first answers no

21:53

, or how that's not going to work

21:55

, or have you done this yet ? Have you thought about this

21:57

? And so it's definitely , honestly

21:59

, it works together as a team because I'm just

22:01

like let's do this , get it done . Who

22:03

cares what happens ? Like the

22:05

whole cliff can be falling down , but

22:07

yeah , we're just treading it . But

22:10

luckily she is like my red flag , where she's like

22:12

hey , no , it's , let's take a seat

22:14

back . Here's the details . So

22:17

it's a good push , though , because if it was just her , we would

22:19

never get anything done . If it was just me , all

22:21

kinds of fires would happen . So it's

22:23

a good mix .

22:24

That's so funny .

22:25

Yeah , it's a constant thing , it's . We're just

22:27

communicating and planning on

22:29

what decisions we need to make as a family .

22:32

Yeah , that's , that's all you can do , and you

22:34

know it comes back to just communicate . Communication , yeah

22:36

, I think as we keep on

22:38

doing this podcast , those are the . It's

22:41

such a simple word , right ? Communication

22:43

, yeah , but we're all bad

22:45

at it . Everyone's

22:47

communication can always get better .

22:48

No , I agree , and just even

22:52

in our small world , my small circle , is

22:54

to see my friends and family and like just

22:56

people you know and if you just sit

22:58

there watching discussing , having these conversations

23:00

with their wives or spouses or anyone

23:02

, and you can just tell that unfortunately

23:06

, I mean I was blessed enough to have a dad in

23:08

my life where I was taught

23:10

how to communicate with my wife or what she looked

23:12

like , and it's

23:15

it's scary not scary but sad

23:17

to see how many men we have now . They

23:19

have never seen that or have no like they don't have a

23:21

zero role models , like if you take

23:23

a man out of the house , that son's gonna grow up completely

23:26

lost and it's slowly

23:28

getting there to where these guys

23:30

who are becoming fathers have no idea how to even be

23:33

one . And it's a . That's

23:35

why , honestly , I was like my big vision

23:37

behind this whole podcast and husbands

23:40

was the guys who never had any

23:43

role models , I would say .

23:44

there's a difference , though , between being a

23:46

father and being a husband . Yeah

23:48

, and One

23:52

one of them do not go . They

23:54

both go together , but there's a difference between

23:56

you be a really good father and terrible husband . Yeah

23:58

, yeah absolutely .

24:00

But I think in order to be a good

24:02

father , you have to be good husband because

24:05

, for example , if Kenzie

24:08

, my daughter , if I'm her only example

24:10

as a man and she sees me yelling

24:12

at at Cambria

24:15

and screaming at her and degrading

24:18

her all the time , she's gonna

24:20

think that her future husband can talk to her the same way

24:22

. So I think

24:24

being a good father or being a good husband correlates

24:27

to you being a good father , because it

24:29

it's in the day . It's all a chain reaction

24:31

like can't , can see , he's gonna marry someone

24:34

like her father and that's just how

24:36

it is , and so you can't . You

24:38

can be a good father or a bad husband . I

24:40

don't think it's gonna go get you very far .

24:43

Yeah , what else

24:45

do we have on the ?

24:46

the last thing I had . We're just kind of soon to

24:48

be a shorter episode today , so that's

24:50

why but the last thing I had was

24:52

Friday was national blue

24:55

collar day , and those

24:58

who have never listened to the show know that me and Zayn

25:00

are both From the blue collar

25:02

industries I'm an H back and Zayn's

25:04

in roofing and really

25:06

I just want to discuss a topic that I saw

25:08

all over social media social

25:10

media Friday and hot topics

25:13

. Hot topics because , funny

25:16

enough is , I did both so

25:19

I could say whatever hell I want , if we're just being

25:21

completely honest . But so

25:24

I am sick and tired

25:26

of Parents

25:29

Making their

25:31

kids seem like they have to go to college to be

25:33

successful . I'm done with it . I've

25:35

gotten to the point where I just see it all over social media

25:37

and I really just want to say , like

25:40

I have guys that make more

25:42

money than any of these kids I want

25:44

the college have ever made . And I'm

25:47

not saying going to college is wrong , I'm not saying

25:49

having a career is wrong , but I don't think

25:51

it's right to just have your

25:53

kids on this tunnel vision where if you don't go to college

25:55

, you won't be successful , when I see

25:57

many people in the trades right now Just honestly

26:00

Dominating that life like

26:03

there's . So the trades

26:05

are Gonna be , I think

26:07

ten years from now , trades are gonna be the

26:09

next . Literally your doctor

26:12

. Yeah , like you're gonna be making more

26:14

money than anybody . I mean the dying breed

26:16

of plumbers . The average age of a plumber right now is almost

26:19

50 years old . So imagine if jet

26:21

grows up and becomes a plumber . The demand

26:23

is you can be able to charge $250 an hour

26:25

if he wants like , and

26:28

yeah , I just . I Want

26:30

the college for four years , so I Get

26:33

it . So , I graduated college .

26:34

This is where I think this is where I think

26:36

college could be good . I didn't go to college

26:38

. I went to college for one semester . I'm

26:41

just trying to play it from both sides right now . My parents

26:43

are gonna be watching this and they're gonna see

26:45

this fight . Shit God . They're gonna be yelling

26:47

at me . Well , you better go to college , hey you're making more

26:49

money in my friends .

26:50

I want the college . We're not gonna talk about

26:52

that .

26:53

But , um , the

26:56

good thing about college when you go is

26:58

not so much maybe the

27:00

learning , it's more the networking . If you

27:03

go out there in college and you experience it and you see it , look

27:05

how you are . For instance , how many

27:07

people do you know now , yeah

27:10

, from college , that your

27:13

friends with , and that it's all about

27:15

connections . To me , this back in down , that 18

27:17

, to me this whole world is

27:19

Comes down to , it's not

27:21

what you know , it's who you know . No , no doubt , and

27:24

college really helps bring that . So you're not

27:27

Stopped in this , your small community

27:29

that you grew up in your whole life , or you have

27:31

a whole bunch of friends all over the world

27:33

, because when college is most colleges , people

27:35

come over from all over the world . If you go to a big college

27:38

, yeah , yeah um . So

27:40

when you get an experience that it teaches you more about

27:42

how to talk to people , how to communicate with

27:44

strangers , um , how to

27:46

be more vocal and be More

27:49

secure about yourself . As far as the learning

27:51

stuff , I mean what

27:55

I'm I'm not gonna say one of one

27:57

of my People

27:59

that I know they went to uh

28:01

college and they got an art degree . I

28:04

don't even use the art degree .

28:05

What is the point of an art degree ? I don't know if they , they

28:07

are .

28:08

They got a good amount of uh

28:10

. They went to a really Pristine college , a really

28:12

good college , got an art degree . They teach preschool

28:14

. They don't , they don't work in anything to do with art

28:16

.

28:18

Um , what do you , can you do with art degree working

28:20

at museums ? That's

28:22

uh , I I don't know , that's

28:25

funny . No , I uh . So

28:27

I will say , college taught

28:29

me a ton , but yeah , as far as like the studies

28:31

, nothing and this was my viewing

28:33

.

28:33

Going into it Okay with the whole college , I

28:37

got offered , uh , scholarships to go

28:39

play um football

28:41

in college , the

28:43

school that I was going to I I got

28:45

a good amount of scholarships , but the school was super

28:47

expensive . By the time I graduated I was gonna be

28:50

40 000 dollars in the

28:52

hole Coming out if I

28:54

were to stay there the full four years . I've been

28:56

40 000 dollars in the hole and

28:58

it wasn't no big

29:00

D1 . I I wasn't that good , but you know

29:02

, let's get a little school to just continue playing

29:04

and I didn't want to put

29:06

myself through .

29:07

Well , I'd rather you go get a loan for 40 grand and start

29:10

your own business .

29:10

I really go get a loan before you go and get a car Um

29:15

.

29:16

No , I get I . I mean I went to college and we played

29:18

baseball , so I didn't go there

29:20

to learn much , but it did teach me a lot

29:22

about , like , my time management

29:25

, being efficient , dealing with ups and downs

29:27

. Um , I

29:30

I'm not for people being in

29:32

the workplace . I want people to be able to become

29:34

, I want everybody to work for themselves one day , but

29:37

I do think it teaches you how to take responsibility

29:40

and listen to your . I mean , in

29:43

the end of the day , you don't know about the idiot

29:45

and fail the classes , so you're gonna put in the hard

29:47

work and so I think anytime you have

29:49

to do something you don't want to do , it's gonna make

29:51

you a better person . So

29:53

I think college taught me that a lot , because I hated

29:55

it , but I did it because I needed to

29:57

, and so that helps you with anything .

29:59

So this is . This is something that's kind of on

30:02

my mind when it comes to going to colleges

30:04

, and this is how

30:06

I feel personally . I'll explain

30:09

how I feel for in a second , but I

30:11

wanted you to explain yours . Is there a

30:13

difference between , um

30:15

, your daughter going to college

30:17

versus your son going to college ?

30:19

Oh man , you're gonna get me all . Ah

30:22

, hot

30:24

, take baby . Um

30:27

, I think there is a difference , because if

30:29

it's me and I'm looking and it's

30:31

jet , if he tells me he doesn't want to go

30:34

to college , I'm

30:36

about all right , son , here's an attic , here

30:38

some tools , and

30:40

if you're not going to college you're gonna want to trade . For

30:43

Kinsey . Obviously girls are growing

30:45

in the trade . That's not really the life I'd want

30:47

for Kinsey . That , being a female in the trade

30:49

for her , really

30:52

I would tell her good to college so she

30:54

can learn what she is interested in

30:56

and , obviously

30:58

, meet her future husband . But I

31:01

don't really know what

31:04

. So that and I just do more

31:06

research in that I don't really know what trades there

31:08

are for females . I mean cells , cells

31:11

can see you go into cells . But she wants to be architect

31:13

, she wants to be an interior design

31:15

. So I'm gonna be obviously stand behind that and

31:17

do it and support her . But she's she

31:19

won't just tell me I'm not going to college and then go

31:21

be a waitress . Nothing against waitresses

31:23

, but she better have a

31:25

, she better have a

31:27

whole roadmap . Okay , this is what I want to do .

31:30

Do you really expect her as a father , though ? I mean

31:32

thought . Look at how you were , at

31:35

18 years old , graduating . Did you have

31:37

a whole map figured out for you

31:39

?

31:39

I kind of knew exactly what I was either

31:41

gonna play baseball or end up in the trades . You

31:44

know I was lost . Yeah , see I when

31:46

I first .

31:47

Little different when I first graduated I was

31:49

completely lost . I didn't know what I wanted to do

31:51

. When I

31:53

first got done I said , man , I

31:55

want to be an electrical engineer and

31:57

electrocuted , found out very quick I don't like

31:59

electricity . So

32:03

Everything's kind of changed

32:05

and that's why , with with

32:07

guys , I think you should

32:09

work as many jobs , yeah , as

32:11

you can , between 18 and 22

32:13

work as many jobs .

32:15

Well , it's funny that you say that and I agree with

32:17

that , but if I

32:19

, for example , in interviews , the

32:22

first time I act , the first thing I asked a man

32:24

is how old are you when you got your first

32:26

job ? And if they told me 18

32:29

or 19 , I usually wouldn't hire yeah

32:31

. So I was like you have no work ethic .

32:35

Well , what makes you say that though ?

32:37

I don't care if you're working for your grandfather

32:39

or your Dad or your uncle

32:42

. I think , every man if

32:44

he needs to start working by 14 years old like

32:46

summer job doing something , and that's why

32:48

I'm asking them about okay , is

32:50

it ? When's it ? When do you have your first job ? And

32:53

then I break it down like , hey , this even means like working

32:55

for your grandfather , building fences , like anything

32:58

that Showed me that you got to work

33:00

at it . It's really hard to teach that .

33:02

I think there's different types , though , because if this is someone

33:04

that was in sports female or male , that

33:06

was in sports baseball there's summer ball You're

33:08

playing . I still worked , yeah , but like

33:11

my buddy , I had a buddy that played summer ball

33:13

. He was busy , he had practices

33:15

four times a week and he had tournaments

33:17

pretty much every weekend . His dad

33:19

said you know what you're doing , that you don't need a job . Yeah

33:21

, he ended up going to play college ball . Yeah

33:24

, and did that . With that , would you not

33:26

consider ?

33:26

that I would consider that as

33:28

a job . I mean , it shows you , it

33:31

shows me that you have work ethic , you're driven

33:33

like you had something you're pursuing . Yeah , if

33:35

you're just a 15 year old kid , you're playing video

33:37

games all day and I see you what you do

33:40

in high school and you say I didn't play sports . And

33:42

then you're like well , I also didn't have a job . I'm

33:44

like you didn't do anything . So yeah

33:46

, there's I think there's a lot of things that connect .

33:48

I think you're getting too hot right there . So I think

33:50

with it's a different type of person . So

33:53

with trades it may not be

33:55

very well , it may not look very

33:57

good playing games and doing stuff like that . But

33:59

if they played games I

34:01

have cousins that play games all the time yeah , if

34:04

they go into a different , different

34:06

part of the

34:08

company , it's where they can mess

34:10

with the .

34:12

Chronicle part of it , yeah , about my

34:14

interviews , like being a trade , if

34:17

you did do anything hands-on or

34:20

being it something that caused you

34:22

to put your Body

34:24

I guess not not at risk , but obviously like something

34:27

that was hard working and you're telling me you

34:29

want to go be an addict for 14

34:31

hours a day . I'm like you can't do that . Yeah

34:33

, it's just , I'm just not going to set you up for

34:35

failure like that . And so I get to

34:38

your point and I it

34:40

depends what trades you go into , but

34:42

I tell people all the time if you think

34:44

that you've never had a job before , or you weren't in the military

34:47

, or you didn't play a sport or something

34:49

to where it was demanding on your body , you

34:51

definitely don't want to be an age back tent .

34:54

Yeah , I think . So , going back to the question

34:56

that I asked you , um , male

34:59

I I kind of have the same

35:01

type of Thoughts that

35:03

you have . Yeah , a son Can

35:06

use his body for a tool . Daughters

35:08

I'm not necessarily wanting them to , women

35:13

are very precious , yeah , um , they're

35:15

very valuable . They're

35:17

, they're God's

35:20

creation of to me , of

35:22

what a human is supposed to be loving , caring

35:24

, nurturing , um , and

35:26

that's something that , if she wants to

35:28

Not go to college , she

35:30

better have a plan too . Yeah , she wants to start her

35:33

own company ? Okay , that's fine . Um

35:35

, but sitting around not

35:38

really knowing what to do , going

35:41

to do a certain thing to me , I think , in order for

35:43

a female , and I don't think it's fair . I'm not saying

35:45

I don't think it's fair . There's just not the job opportunities

35:47

for what most women

35:50

would want to do , um

35:52

for a female than there is for a male

35:54

.

35:54

No , I agree . I mean I tell you now , kids , you would

35:56

never want to be a plumber . So yeah , exactly

35:59

.

36:00

But so my , my daughters , I would , I

36:02

would want them to pursue college because

36:04

it would help them in the long run . Yeah and it

36:07

would help them with the communicating

36:09

skills that learning from different

36:11

people ?

36:12

Um and stuff . I would say , go deeper thought

36:14

on . That is face off your question . I

36:17

think I would treat them both the same way and say

36:19

one either gonna learn a skill

36:22

that could be a trade , that could be sales

36:24

, that could be Freaking

36:26

a wedding planner , I don't care what it is You're either

36:28

gonna learn a skill that can make you and Continue

36:31

into a career , or you're gonna go into college

36:33

. So you have four years to figure it out . So

36:35

I think that's the best way to put that . Yeah

36:38

, because that four years does help people get their life together

36:40

. Some people aren't ready to Grow

36:43

up yet . I wasn't . I mean , there's

36:45

no way at 18 I would

36:47

be able to Figure out what I was gonna

36:49

do . That's four years definitely helped me . All

36:52

I knew how to do was play baseball . I

36:54

had to work on the side , but I never really like took in

36:56

the time to learn to skill . I was just

36:58

a grunt .

36:59

Yeah , you were just you were just saying dig the hole

37:01

. Hey , bring me this pvc pop .

37:03

Yeah , I didn't actually learn the skill at all , but

37:05

that's a good question . I like that . Yeah

37:08

, absolutely but that's all I got today

37:10

. And uh , you got anything else you want

37:12

to say before we end it ?

37:14

No , I don't have anything else to add or anything like that

37:16

. I think this was a good , Uh good conversation that

37:18

we had . Uh , you know , we'll see the insights

37:20

of what both of us really have to say

37:22

. I've learned a lot from you , and maybe

37:25

I know I'm new not really , I'm

37:27

not a dad yet and still just beginning

37:29

my life for marriage Um

37:31

no you see the new perspective right

37:33

?

37:33

No , I'm a firm believer that you

37:35

can learn anything from anybody , as long

37:37

as you take the time to hear them out . So

37:40

yeah but like always , we appreciate

37:42

you tuning in and uh , until

37:44

next time . Yeah , no , see you guys later

37:46

.