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Hey everybody and

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welcome back to

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the podcast. This

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is episode number

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143 the end of

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your survey. That number

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is getting really

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high. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

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getting really high. Mm -hmm.

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Yeah. We're doing this Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm. Hard to sound, I'm used to

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you sounding like this sounding

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been sick We have weeks now. long

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time. three for not pushing out

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this pod on Tuesday. pot on

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We've been sick. been got a

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concussion a concussion yesterday. Yeah. You're

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a Yeah, I had a

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really big bike accident had a really

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over my handlebars I flipped over my

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my old noggin. bumped my old noggin.

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on top of having top of

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weeks COVID two weeks. When it

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rains. Yeah, I saw as

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I was like I was

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like... relaxing

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the accident. I I was on

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Instagram there there was an ad

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saying, you you ever that that you

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got sick or had a

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light accident could could take a

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break? was like some burnout ad. I'm I'm like,

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that's, I no, I actually had

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both of those things happen and

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they both sucked. So this ad is is

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not targeted. correctly. This is is gonna

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sound weird, but I've kind of

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almost enjoyed this episode of of COVID. Why?

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COVID, it's like a story. it's like a

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story. I think I've said this

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to you, because I've been meditating

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lots through this COVID and it's it's

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tough to meditate and focus on

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your breathing when when, you you're all

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congested and stuff. and stuff. But

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I found this COVID, it's been

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terrible by lot lot of measures,

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But but it's kind of

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like a story in another

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way, way, like the symptoms, like there's a period

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of a period of fatigue

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that lasts a week. And then

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there's congestion that lasts another

1:58

week. there's this lasts... So

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you don't know know what's the

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the corner. It's a a

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surprise. I don't know. I had it don't

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know, I had it six months ago,

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and the trajectory has been the

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exact same as last time, so time.

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have not enjoyed it. This time This

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not a was not a but we are But

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think? I think, on the other side.

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I don't know. the last two

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months has been like such a

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debacle for me me between the severely sprained

2:25

ankle, ankle, the a and now

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a concussion body my whole body

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hurts. I woke up this morning,

2:32

realized, oh, you you know, when you

2:34

flip yourself over your bike,

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it's not just your head that

2:38

hurts. It's like your whole It's

2:40

like your whole body And I'm like to

2:42

in bruises. covered in bruises. So. I'm I'm very

2:44

happy for it to be the end of the year. At least it

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happened. at a good time. At know it

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happened at I think of when I

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get really sick of when I get really sick

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He's a Buddhist monk, Ajahn Brahm.

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a And he has so many

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talks on and they're all an

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hour long, so talks not going to

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find the exact one to link

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long, if you search for Ajahn

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Brahm the exact he said one thing, if

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was counseling somebody who was really

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sick, who was in the hospital.

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Everything was kind of not going

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right by a lot of measures

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for them. for he described

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saying to this person, person,

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if you, day is going

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terrible, it's helpful

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to see your day, not

3:26

as a tragedy, but as

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a comedy. I've And so to

3:30

started to of of take

3:32

that frame for this COVID

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episode, for you know all this stuff that's

3:37

going on with you with you

3:39

that for know, thankfully we're out

3:41

on the other side of,

3:43

but that reframe is so,

3:45

I think, helpful. There's There's

3:47

always another angle around

3:49

the corner to see the

3:51

corner to see situation from

3:53

a different perspective. I

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mean I've I I don't actually

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feel like like this all this debacle stuff is

4:00

been that negative. It's actually been like, I

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have really just found it mostly funny

4:04

that it's all that a But

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yeah, so we're on the other side. And now we're a

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daily late. Sorry folks. You know it's

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not funny though. What?

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Surveys. Wow, what

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a transition. Very serious. you do

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surveys for a living I do. Basically, right?

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When I gave you comments on your survey, were like

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wow, this that's a lot of comments. I'm like,

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this is literally what I do for a living. Yeah,

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you give feedback on surveys. That

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is not exactly what I do for a

4:30

living, But but yes, surveys are a

4:32

big part of evaluations, which is what I

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do Aren't you a pollster of some kind?

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definitely not a poor pollster, but I do

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know an awful lot about surveys. Yes. Yeah

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So you just put out a survey on

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productivity curiosity. And we thought this would be

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fun to kind of talk about because it's

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also a nice way to wrap up the

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year where we can talk think about a want

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to do a little reflection about

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what we're curious about with productivity, and

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also nudge people who are listening

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to go take this curiosity survey, because

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it's mostly just like a fun

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self -reflect best exercise. In a

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way, yeah, I guess It like two

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minutes So are you, why did you put

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survey? Let's start with that one. Well, Have

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you ever done like a zoom talk for

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people? And you know, you're presenting

5:14

and it's like you're staring into the

5:16

abyss. I literally

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teach over Zoom. Yeah, sometimes it's

5:21

like. And you think, like, is

5:23

anybody on the other side here? If

5:25

if I were to walk away from

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this Zoom call, what would realistically happen

5:29

here? Do you ever have this feeling? Oh,

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yeah, it's the best, not the best,

5:34

it's a little sad. But this used

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to happen when I taught bigger classes

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at Queens. not where I'm teaching now.

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But at my older, where I used

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to teach, and we'd have classes of

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like people over Zoom during COVID. And

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you'd say, all right, everybody, have a

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great day. End of class. And then

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you see everybody leave, and there's always

5:52

like. eight black boxes, but don't leave

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because they have obviously left, which

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is it always made me laugh a

5:58

little bit because those people have

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clearly left the the chat but just

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went off video and didn't let

6:05

you know. let you know. Yeah, yeah. So that's

6:07

sometimes, not not all the time I

6:09

get, you you know, I, because I create content

6:11

I create content outside of

6:13

this podcast, obviously the the website,

6:16

for the newsletter, for all these

6:18

different places. places. The content goes out

6:20

to a lot of people. a

6:22

lot of a lot of times people

6:24

say, oh, and people say, Oh,

6:26

thank you for the art. You

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know, there's nice feedback that

6:31

comes back. back. And it's nice to get

6:33

nice to get that feedback, I

6:35

but I always am I going

6:37

in the right going in

6:39

the right direction is what I

6:41

what I am covering

6:43

the best most helpful possible

6:46

thing that I could

6:48

be focusing on. on? I'm happy

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with everything I'm making

6:52

and I'm making, but online stuff, stuff,

6:54

like, not to get. all business and stuff.

6:56

But my whole whole philosophy with

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creating stuff online is that

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it's for the benefit of

7:03

readers, of listeners, of viewers,

7:05

of people that are soaking

7:07

in this content and hopefully and

7:09

action upon it. I like

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to make money through the

7:13

books that I write that

7:15

the speaking that I do. that

7:18

I do. Try not to make

7:20

any money from online stuff.

7:22

know, know there's Amazon links links because

7:24

referral revenue helps pay for

7:26

the newsletter and like that, that

7:28

but but and there no ads

7:30

on the ads on There's no

7:32

ads on the website. no ads

7:34

nothing like that because my

7:36

goal is to really just

7:38

create helpful things. things that's true

7:40

for the paid stuff too.

7:42

the paid stuff too, but I don't

7:44

think somebody should have

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to pay money to, to to,

7:48

know, get help with

7:50

productivity stuff or stuff or or

7:52

these kinds of ideas. of ideas.

7:54

So, whole intention, you know,

7:56

if the podcast is about

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intentionality with survey. is to really

8:00

make sure what I'm planning for

8:02

the new year is aligned to

8:04

what people are interested in and what

8:06

what they want to get out

8:09

of my work. Cause this is

8:11

really like this two way relationship

8:13

in a way where sometimes it

8:15

does feel like I'm writing into

8:17

that Zoom call call it's like, okay, you

8:19

know, you know, thanks for the

8:21

feedback guys, but is this the best

8:23

possible thing in the first place?

8:25

the first so I want to really,

8:27

really really for that in the

8:29

new year. Find the right direction,

8:31

find the right approach. approach. And you

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take this survey, I will

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personally read your responses. It won't

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take you very long. Most of

8:40

them are like of them are like those

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and stuff, but there are

8:44

a few text ones that I'm

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reading every single response to. response

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just it's just valuable,

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valuable. valuable feedback that

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I'm grateful if you

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consider it. consider

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it. Yeah, link is in the show show is

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in the show notes. or in you show notes.

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Or figure out show notes for some

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reason. I think people some of have that

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down by now, but you can also

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go to of .com slash down by now. But

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you could nice tidy

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little Chris Bailey.com slash survey.

9:15

Ooh, nice tidy little URL.

9:18

Yeah. Those are the survey.

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Those are the three Google? You

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could Google it. Yeah. Google? You

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could Google it too. Yeah. Maybe,

9:26

maybe. Oh, and I'm and I'm giving away

9:28

three, three books to three random three books

9:30

to three if people who take it,

9:32

if you you were going to you

9:35

were going to answer, the first question

9:37

in your survey is about why people

9:39

want to become more productive. And this is, I

9:41

think like, is useful for me to think

9:43

about to do I care about this

9:45

stuff. about this How would you answer

9:47

this question? I'm curious, I'm

9:49

motivates you? you? Chris Bailey to

9:51

become more productive. Like why do

9:53

you, why do you care about

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this? this? Two, I think, I

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think, fundamental Well, there's a a bunch

9:59

of different reasons, but but this is

10:01

is actually an interesting question

10:04

because I think what drives

10:06

a a lot of people to want, I don't

10:08

want to, you know, anchor people's answers in

10:10

one way or another as well. as well, but

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I think what what drives a lot of people

10:14

to become more productive is

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accomplishment. you know, accomplishing

10:18

more, acquiring more, you know

10:20

know, status, money, recognition,

10:23

whatever traditional traditional you

10:25

want to you want at.

10:27

In that to survey that

10:29

we've talked about on

10:31

previous episodes, previous episodes the

10:33

theory of values, the

10:35

kind of kind of most

10:37

validated The the instrument for measuring

10:39

what we value. Accomplishment

10:41

is kind of a is value

10:43

of mind. It's not really

10:45

high up on the list,

10:47

but what up on the self but

10:49

what is, so going my own

10:51

way to really accomplish the

10:53

things that I wanna do

10:55

things that well as, do, as well

10:57

values of the values is hedonism. Yeah, it has

10:59

an an unfortunate

11:01

name, but essentially

11:03

it just means means pleasure.

11:06

Cences pleasure. And you know, that's great

11:08

food. great food, that's

11:10

a great bath, all

11:12

the stuff that is... all

11:14

the stuff that is... And

11:16

so mine is really so those really

11:18

centered around those two. and

11:20

creating the and creating the

11:23

conditions to just enjoy life

11:25

and have more time and

11:27

energy and attention to... to

11:29

enjoy life as well as well as

11:31

to be able to go and

11:33

own way is sustainable in a

11:35

way that is sustainable and

11:37

contributes to Hence the people Yeah.

11:39

Yeah. What about you? You

11:41

survey both have that accomplishment and

11:43

I both have that accomplishment I mean we

11:46

both those of core I mean we

11:48

both did those values surveys was something I

11:50

something I really valued so in and

11:52

of itself like I just value value.

11:54

accomplishment. that's like a big motivator

11:56

to be more productive, so you can So you

11:58

can like complete things. Right so that's a big

12:00

a big motivator for me. And I

12:02

know that like I, I I really thrive

12:04

when I have like pressure to done There's done.

12:07

there's no right or no right or wrong value. I

12:09

mean like when a mean like is the value

12:11

is like really something central to that is

12:13

core or central to you. you that so I resonates

12:15

with you. So I think that's hear interesting thing

12:17

when you hear people talk about values. a If

12:19

it isn't a core value for you, it might

12:21

not totally see the with how you see the

12:23

world. You said it was core for me. for me Oh, sorry.

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Sorry. Not core for you. for you,

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my bad. concussion. concussion, let's just

12:30

on that. Chalk it up. Concussion, COVID,

12:32

etc. But that was, that is a core is a

12:34

core value for me is it's So, but one

12:36

of the other one of the other big ones

12:38

and this is something I'm after reading reading

12:40

your book, I've I have been thinking about

12:43

this in my work a lot. book

12:45

that's not that's not out yet. Yes. it a little

12:47

preview a what this book has made me

12:49

think about in my own life about in my

12:51

own. How I like I really really value the of

12:53

the one of the core values is is And

12:56

just if you are curious,

12:58

we talked about the core values

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in core values in sources of motivation.

13:02

motivation in that episode, and in in

13:04

general, if you do like any

13:06

kind of kind of one of the

13:08

other values is is which is

13:10

just a word I just hate. hate

13:12

but it really just it's it's like, you have

13:15

a kind of preference for novelty,

13:17

essentially. And knowing that about

13:19

myself, I can use that in

13:21

a more productive way, it can because it

13:23

can just be like, you can

13:25

end up being overwhelmed, and I think

13:27

that's I'm constantly I'm constantly mindful of is not

13:29

just like filling my days to the brim

13:32

because I will kind of lean towards that. that.

13:34

But one thing I'm one thing I'm finding

13:36

is in my work in that in my work in

13:38

that I have a lot of different

13:40

projects going on at any given time,

13:42

I'm but something I'm is finding is more

13:44

more productive and more efficient about how

13:46

I work on projects allows me to of

13:49

like finish projects more quickly so I I can

13:51

move to to the next one, which

13:53

I'm finding of at kind of inflection point

13:55

with some of my research projects right

13:57

now where like some of the some of the stuff that was

13:59

kind of like and with my dissertation is kind of wrapping

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up and I'm kind of pivoting to like

14:03

bigger projects and more exciting projects where I'm

14:05

kind of like launching into bigger stuff now

14:07

and that's really exciting for me. So a

14:09

big motivator for my work right now is

14:11

that I'm able to like if I'm the

14:13

more productive I am the like more I

14:15

can lean into these like bigger projects and

14:17

so I'm finding that actually really motivating because

14:19

it's kind of filling that core value of

14:21

mine. But also, simulation becomes the reward. Yeah,

14:23

like that's the, if I'm like more productive

14:25

in my work, I get to do more

14:27

really exciting work. Like that's the amazing thing

14:30

about the work I do. I get to

14:32

just constantly be exploring and curious about like

14:34

new questions, right? Like that's the nature of

14:36

research is asking really interesting and new questions.

14:38

And so I'm very lucky in that I

14:40

can. like really focus my work and anchor

14:42

it around this idea of like if I

14:44

finish this project I get to work on

14:46

new projects like that's amazing so and it's

14:48

like such such a cool essential value for

14:50

myself. That's amazing to you because you love

14:52

your work. Yeah. Oh and I'm so fortunate

14:54

right like I there is not a day

14:56

that goes by where I'm not like so

14:58

super grateful for the work that I get

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to do. Yeah same like every single day

15:02

I'm grateful I'm grateful that I've found myself

15:04

in the in the in the career that

15:06

I am. Same. And there is those values

15:08

of benevolence and universalism that we both have

15:10

too. Which, you know, is about contributing to

15:12

other people. It's probably what led you to

15:14

become a development economist. It's, I don't know,

15:16

I feel it's kind of why I do

15:18

what I do online too. So I just

15:20

feel like a grateful mofo every day. Can

15:22

I say that? on family. It stands for

15:24

mother father. No, it doesn't. But the like

15:26

benevolence piece is also and I was going

15:28

to get to this is like that's a

15:30

huge huge motivator for me. I think that

15:32

was the biggest motivator for like value of

15:34

mine when I did the values test is

15:36

this universalism. Value and like. I

15:38

can see that directly

15:40

in my work when

15:42

I feel like my

15:44

work has some kind

15:46

of bigger purpose or

15:48

it affects, like has

15:50

the potential to have

15:52

a much bigger impact

15:54

in the world, which

15:56

I mean, it is

15:58

actually true. work in

16:00

like education and health.

16:02

So it's not very

16:04

hard for me to

16:06

draw those lines in

16:08

my research, but also

16:10

in my teaching. Like

16:12

I'm really, I find

16:14

that really valuable. And

16:16

so it's very motivating

16:18

to be really productive

16:20

in those areas. Yes, so

16:23

that is what the first

16:25

question is getting to. We

16:27

won't spoil the rest of

16:29

the survey, as if it's

16:31

interesting. I think people find

16:33

it interesting. think it's interesting.

16:35

A nice reflection to close

16:37

the year. And so what

16:39

else? So wanted to cover kind

16:41

of two things today. chrisbailey

16:44

com/survey or Check

16:46

out the show notes, that's the

16:49

first one. Wanted to chat about the

16:51

survey. But we also wanna share

16:53

how we're ringing in the new year

16:55

this year. Yeah. Or

16:58

the the current one Yeah.

17:01

So I'm in a weird place because - I

17:03

had a bit of an accident. So

17:05

there's been like a, that kind of

17:07

precipitated me thinking, oh, I guess I'm

17:09

gonna call it the of the

17:11

year a little bit early. So I'm

17:14

wrapping up the year by more

17:16

intentionally disconnecting from screens too, because,

17:18

you know, a little bit of, uh,

17:20

that's a A bit of

17:22

a recommendation when you have a little bit of

17:24

a concussion. What do they say

17:26

about podcasting? You know, it didn't come up in

17:28

the description of what to do when you have

17:30

a concussion. It's not on the standard form. It

17:32

is not. But basically, I'm just

17:34

taking this as an opportunity to

17:37

unwind a little bit earlier before

17:39

the holidays. And I'm also focusing

17:41

on like stuff for the next

17:43

week or so we're going to

17:45

go visit your family I might

17:47

I'm going to start running this

17:49

weekend. Hey. For the first

17:51

time. First time since the ankle sprain.

17:53

so that'll be very exciting. was

17:55

like months ago Two and a half

17:57

months, yeah. It It was summer. Yeah. No,

18:00

it was. Thanksgiving, but it

18:02

was Canadian Thanksgiving October. Yeah.

18:04

So I'm going start running this weekend,

18:06

which I'm very excited about. I

18:09

am going to do a little crocheting. and I

18:11

read some books. I'm reading a Jane Austen novel

18:13

right now, which is just lovely. Mansfield Park,

18:15

I think it's the only one I haven't read.

18:17

So it's uh, yeah. Well, I

18:19

know it's the only one I haven't read,

18:21

so I'm just focusing on some analog. habits

18:25

right now. Love it before

18:27

Before head to Thunder Bay. Yes.

18:30

Well, my reason, I think this

18:32

is kind of connected with that

18:34

first question, which was why I'm

18:36

so happy you brought that up.

18:38

Like Like, what is your reason

18:40

for becoming more productive? Because this

18:42

is the time of the year. to

18:45

step back from productivity, from

18:47

caring about all this stuff, the

18:49

things that you have to

18:51

do related to, maybe some

18:53

people have to work over the

18:56

holidays, in which case, hopefully

18:58

you enjoy your work. Um,

19:00

But to me, it's really,

19:02

you know, to have more time

19:04

and energy and attention to

19:06

enjoy life. And so I

19:08

am like you, I felt like

19:10

like with that there something.

19:13

Um, Everybody gets a

19:15

car. Oh, yes. yeah, Yeah.

19:17

Yeah. wait, wait to

19:19

the end of the podcast.

19:21

Um, So it's really,

19:23

I'm going indulge in food,

19:25

friends, um, family, or

19:27

yeah, mentioned we're off to

19:29

Thunder Bay, Ontario, which

19:31

is essentially in the Canadian

19:33

Arctic. Um, we, I

19:35

don't know how we're gonna

19:37

get there. I think

19:39

there's a dog sled involved

19:41

somewhere, Um, but just

19:43

relaxing, enjoying life. Um, and

19:45

in -bi -bing, is that

19:48

the word? In -bi -bing? Yeah, Yeah.

19:50

so investing in that hedonism. Yeah.

19:53

Yeah, I'm going invest in a

19:55

little accomplishment because I want finish a

19:57

whole baby blanket. over yeah!

19:59

holidays. Yeah. Oh, do you have news?

20:01

have news? for me. I'm for

20:03

me. kidding. That's so mean. so mean.

20:05

likes to do to do this.

20:07

our is something I always

20:09

do to family because I always do

20:12

always think, because when are they going

20:14

to tell us that to having

20:16

a kid? they're And so I always

20:18

say, And so I when people talk

20:20

about news, I always say to

20:22

the group, Oh, by by the way,

20:25

we have some news of our

20:27

own. And Arden just does a

20:29

big face every time because knows, I I

20:31

think people have realized that I'm crying

20:33

wolf every time and don't believe

20:36

me anymore. Yeah, this is becoming a

20:38

crying wolf situation becoming a ever going to

20:40

believe you if we ever do have

20:42

a baby, but going to is kind of

20:44

funny we ever do have a is a consistent

20:46

thing. funny how this is a knows that you're

20:48

thing just you do. And around there are

20:50

a few people I haven't gotten

20:52

joking around. There very excited I haven't

20:54

hoping, they will. Well, people

20:57

one of these times, it will be true. hoping.

20:59

So are making a baby blanket for a

21:01

good friend of mine. of

21:03

mine. child. new not our

21:05

child. our child. A friend's child. No can't

21:07

do this, so the whole

21:10

podcast. do this. So the whole know

21:12

if they care, don't know if

21:14

they care. But family definitely

21:16

does. they they do. taking

21:18

it easy for the it easy for the

21:20

next couple of weeks. Yeah. Yeah, it

21:22

easy. easy. And we hope you have

21:24

a a nice opportunity to take it

21:27

easy this holiday. If you you

21:29

listen to this podcast, you

21:31

probably work hard. hard, you know,

21:33

you You know, you probably invest

21:35

in your productivity, and

21:37

it's such a great time of the

21:39

year to reflect what is that

21:41

investment for? What are the

21:43

dividends that you want productivity to

21:45

pay for you? You pay

21:47

for even know, you it

21:49

is even which is completely

21:51

fine. think, which is know,

21:54

fine, I even though it know, a

21:56

core value of both of

21:58

us, value of both of us, it is, you know, You

22:00

know, something that is

22:02

valued to a high degree across a

22:04

lot of people And so if

22:06

that's true for you double down on

22:08

that account. What's something you want

22:11

to to accomplish in your personal life?

22:13

What are other values that you

22:15

can invest in at the same time?

22:17

Do you value benevolence and do

22:19

you want to spend? Spend that time

22:21

helping other people do you value

22:23

tradition and do you want to double

22:26

down on the on the wonderful

22:28

traditions and the tidings I've

22:30

never used that word unironically

22:32

before of the season, Yeah, I

22:34

think you have to say

22:36

of the season after I

22:39

have no idea. Yeah, I don't

22:41

even know what a tidying is. I

22:43

wish you good tidings. don't know.

22:46

wish you good tidings. Thank

22:48

you, Arden. That's very kind of

22:50

you. Whatever your purpose is,

22:52

we're becoming more productive investing in

22:54

this productivity advice. We

22:57

hope that you can experience

22:59

those dividends this holiday season. have

23:01

a weird look on your

23:03

face. I looked up tidings. It

23:05

is news or information as in

23:07

being the bearer of glad tidings.

23:10

Oh, so when you

23:12

mindlessly scroll social media,

23:14

are you receiving tidings?

23:16

because it's news. How

23:19

does that sounds like it.

23:21

Yeah. I mean like synonyms

23:23

are news, information, intelligence, I

23:25

mean, I don't know how

23:27

much actual news. And in

23:29

Canada, you're probably getting actually

23:31

no news on Instagram, but,

23:33

uh, yeah, unfortunately it's, it's

23:36

blocked here. But, um, yeah,

23:38

bearing information or news. Yeah.

23:40

Yeah, you go. All right, so

23:42

the paper brings me tidings every

23:44

morning. Yes, not necessarily always glad

23:46

tidings, but I wish you very

23:48

glad tidings. Yeah, glad tidings, that's

23:50

what they say. Have a wonderful,

23:52

wonderful holiday. We'll take a bit of

23:54

time off over the holidays. We're

23:56

not going to do an episode on.

24:00

December 31st, I I think

24:02

that's the next date date.

24:04

And nobody, the listener numbers numbers during

24:06

the holidays plummet who cares

24:08

who cares about productivity uh, over

24:10

the over the if you if

24:12

you I I think we have

24:14

a a couple back episodes about New Year's Oh,

24:16

yes. Oh yes. Oh yes. There you

24:18

go. get those loaded up. So those

24:20

loaded up. So if you're super motivated

24:23

about New Year's New you can revisit

24:25

that plan by listening to our New

24:27

Year's resolution. plan by can be lazy to

24:29

you can be lazy hope you

24:31

have a chance to enjoy all

24:33

that your productivity Hope you the year

24:35

has brought enjoy all hope you have

24:37

a wonderful wonderful and the

24:39

year has brought. We hope you

24:42

have a wonderful, wonderful holiday. See

24:44

you in the New Year. Bye.