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Well, welcome back everybody

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to Time and Attention

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the Podcast dedicated to

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helping you become a

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better, more intentional human

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being. I am Chris

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Bailey, one of two

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co-hosts of the podcast,

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whether she wants to

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admit it or not.

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This is episode number

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149, everyday Carrie. Every day

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Carrie. Are you a co-host

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of the podcast? Yeah. I

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think we've acknowledged that at this

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point. This is too early. You can

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do a podcast. It is awfully early.

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It's too early. Why don't you want

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to do 7am? Because I have other

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stuff to do today. You didn't want

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to do it on the weekend.

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I have to get to work. No, it

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feels, I like doing this on the

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week. I like doing this on the

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week. But I feel people listen during

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the week. And it has to be

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bookended after my work.

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Those those are not related. They

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are. All right, why do you want

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to talk about everyday carry? People

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are interested in this though.

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Remember I sent out that

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reader survey Well back we

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talked about on the podcast,

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too People asking what's your

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everyday carry? People love kind

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of the productivity bread and

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butter things a lot of

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the times like everyday carry

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what's your everyday schedule? Morning

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routines. Yeah, a lot of

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people were like, what, they specifically

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asked, like, what did my day-to-day

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schedule look like? I'm like, I

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can't believe people care. And my

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day-to-day schedule? What's that? That

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is the bigger question. Yeah.

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Oh, the tea timer just

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went off. One second. All right, so

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with the power of editing, we now

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have our tea steeped. Ooh. Yeah, just

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like that boom. Well, what's the best

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way to go through our everyday carrier?

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Why don't we start? With the meta?

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Yeah, with the meta. The Medicare, the

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bag itself. So mine, I love this

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bag. I love the design of everything

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that this company makes. And

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they're Canadian. Are they? Even

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better. Oh, yeah. By Canadian,

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everybody. Yes, by Canadian. It's

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a mat-net bag, which is,

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they make vegan leather products.

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Vagan leather. That are amazing.

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So this is a... It's like I

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don't, they don't, I don't know if

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I know the name of the specific,

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but it's a specific version because they

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have lots of backpacks and lots

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of briefcases. Do they all look this

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good? They all look great. So this one

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is a, it's a, it's a, basically

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a sage green, fake leather backpack with

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like two pockets. One is big enough

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for a laptop and one is big

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enough for like my whole lunch. Arden

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is in her green era everybody.

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They had a coffee shop told me that

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once because I was carrying so much stuff

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that was green. And he was like, you

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are in your green era and now it

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is really stuck. It stuck with you. It

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really stuck because everything I own is green

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right now. But I do love this

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backpack and I think I love Matt

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and Matt, I love supporting them because

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yes, they are Canadian, which is great,

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but they also really make good stuff.

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Like they make everything as vegan leather

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and leather and it holds up forever.

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I've had one of my shoulder bags

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from them. I've had for probably 10

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years now. So they just have great

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stuff. It is good quality. Their zippers

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are amazing. I'm obsessed with

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this bag and I just

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love it. Yeah. Yeah. It's almost as

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good as my bag. No, mine's

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better. Also Canadian yours.

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Wow. Oh yeah. That's kind

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of inadvertently. This is the

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best bag. I have strong opinions

3:41

about that. You don't even need to

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look for another bag everybody. It is

3:45

a good bag. So I've had different

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bags over the years. Backpacks. You mean

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specifically? No bags too, like messenger

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bags too. I'd include in that.

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I've had like cheap messenger bags

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to fancy bags from, you know,

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that waterfield bag I got. That

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costs like $500 or $600

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something ridiculous. Back in the

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days when there wasn't a

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cost of living crisis. In

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all this experimentation, there's one

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bag that I keep coming back

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to. One brand of bag, I

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should say. I've had multiple bags

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by the same brand, and you're

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gonna hear the brand, you're gonna

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think, what? You think people will

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think what? No. Okay. It's Lulu

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Lemon. Yeah. It turns out they

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make bags that don't have like

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a yoga strap holder attached to

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the bottom of them. I've had

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different backpacks for them. I've loved

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them both. They don't currently make

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the one that I have, but

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when I bought this bag, they also

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didn't make the one that I had

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before that. So they seem to be

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cycling through them a lot. Out of

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what they do make, there is one

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that I'll link to in the show

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notes that seems the closest. It's super

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light. You will attest to this, Arden,

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that anything you put in here,

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it feels lighter when you put the

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bag on. Yes, that is true, but

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I will say that's also just a

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feature of a good backpack. So I

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mean, I think this is also one

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thing I mentioned, like I never carry

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a shoulder bag, like I have a

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matina shoulder bag, but I never carry

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it because I think if you

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actually walk places. Yeah, the messenger

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or the shoulder bag just isn't.

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It's just to... heavy and so I

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think a good backpack will make things

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feel light. And the Lulu Lemon bag

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definitely does that. They must have

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some person at Lulu Lem with

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like a protractor saying like this

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is the exact angle that we

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innovate. I will say all good

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backpacks make it feel that way. But

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this one is particularly good. I will

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note. And the bag itself is super

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super super light. It's waterproof. You can

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attach to a suitcase. It's sturdy and

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nothing comes close. I have a lot

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of faith in it. Well, maybe not.

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Matt and Matt if you want something

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more stuff. Would you call this big

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stylish? No, that's the one downside. So

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the bag, I carry the mat, which

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I googled it, and they've started making

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this specific bag again. I bought this

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one in clearance because they were getting

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rid of it, but they re-released it

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in different colors. It's called the Nava

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backpack, and it's a 170 Canadian, which

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I had no idea. It was like

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$100, it's probably $120 bucks, American. America

6:22

bucks. But it's fantastic. And it is

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very stylishastic. And it is very stylish.

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But it's the ugly one. I don't

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think it's ugly, but it's just like

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very, it looks like a backpack. So,

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and yours is a little bit closer

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to that. Looks like you're about to

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go for a hike when you put

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that one on. There's all these things

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dangling off of it. I feel like

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there are two kinds of backpacks that

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are like the stylish ones that are

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like the stylish ones that are like

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the stylish ones that are like this

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one, like this one, the matinat bag

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is a little heavier than my osprey

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bag can carry like 30 liters of

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stuff or something, like 30 liters of

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stuff or something, or something, or something.

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So, like, like, like, like, like, like,

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like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

7:10

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

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like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

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like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

7:17

like, like, like, like, So it's a

7:19

lot bigger, but I also don't like

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that all the time because I will

7:24

feel it. So if I give myself

7:26

less space, I end up feeling less

7:29

space. So your bag not as stylish,

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but I think for a bag like

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that, it is nicer looking than some

7:35

of the others. But better overall. Okay,

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let's go to what's on the outside

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of the bag. Nothing for you. My

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hair clip. My like claw, those like

7:45

lobster clock clips. I always always put

7:47

one on the outside and I know

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this is probably defeats the whole like

7:51

it looks so nice. But I just

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I always have hair clips on the

7:56

outside of my bag because I use

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them all the time. A main stay

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in your Christmas stocking which Santa gets

8:03

you every year. It's a Simon. They're

8:05

from Simon's actually. Also Canadian. Oh nice.

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I don't think this company's Canadian, the

8:10

water bottle on the outside. Tachia, is

8:12

that how you say that? Tachia, Tachia,

8:14

Tachia, yeah. The best water bottle. You're

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not wrong, it's pretty good. Yeah, it's

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pretty good. Yeah, not much to say.

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It's a water bottle. It keeps things

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cold and warm. The other side though.

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The other side though. Do you have

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something over there? Oh yeah. On certain

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days. Okay. We were talking about this

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with our friends last night. You will

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talk about this any chance you get.

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Yes I will. Okay. So this is

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the Davik solo umbrella. Now this is

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American. It's from New York, which is,

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you know. We like, we like. We

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like this thing. Now before you go

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to the show notes and you click

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the link to see this umbrella, hear

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me out. Before you see the price

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of this umbrella. Hear me out. I

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love buy it for life products. Things

9:00

you buy one time ever. And most

9:03

umbrellas out there suck. Most umbrellas are

9:05

terrible. You know, you see people out

9:07

there with these umbrellas that are like

9:10

half collapsed. And you think, well, that's

9:12

not structurally sound? Most umbrellas suck. They're

9:14

disposable. They can't stand up to the

9:16

wind, Arden. Their build quality is questionable.

9:19

They're basically, they might as well be

9:21

a subscription service. They're not windproof. I

9:23

have fought wind with this thing. I

9:26

have literally gone to battle with the

9:28

wind with this thing. You have not

9:30

literally done to it. Anderson Cooper, we

9:32

were talking about this yesterday. Anderson Cooper

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should... the spokesperson for Davic because you

9:37

know how he stands out there in

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those hurricane force winds? Yeah, he probably

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has a Davic umbrella. It has a

9:44

lifetime warranty. Yeah, let that let that

9:46

sink in. It's windproof and it fits

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in the water bottle holder of your

9:51

backpack. So you have the water bottle

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on one side, you have the the

9:55

the umbrella on the other side. So

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there you go. That's the best umbrella.

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And it's a folding one. It fits

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in your side, the water bottle holder.

10:05

on a backpack is the takeaway. And

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it's one where you press one button

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and the whole thing expands, which is

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exactly what you want. It's very nice.

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I just, I still cannot believe how

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much money you spent for an umbrella.

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Because it's an umbrella. Should I read

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the price? Now if you're curious people,

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you can go Google. No, I should

10:25

read the price. The Canadian one is

10:28

coming up. Okay. So I need to

10:30

find, oh here, America price. $115. React.

10:32

Let's get your instant reaction to that.

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So my instant reaction was, I think

10:37

I thought this was more money than

10:39

that. Oh yeah, because it's the bill

10:41

quality. No, because we've talked about how

10:44

much it was. So I guess I

10:46

just imagined it was more. And maybe

10:48

that's partly because of the exchange rate

10:50

right now. Well, when I got this,

10:53

I bought the mini umbrella that they

10:55

make. They make a mini little hat.

10:57

Look, I got a right here. It

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fits in the problem. These are worth

11:02

saving up for you. You'll buy them

11:04

once ever and you'll love them forever.

11:07

I guess. I actually really dislike that

11:09

they're black and because this one's red.

11:11

The little tiny one is but the

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main one that you use is black

11:16

and I think black umbrellas just feel

11:18

very funereal like you're at a funeral.

11:20

You can be a fancy lady. I

11:23

have a rainbow. Yeah, umbrella which I

11:25

love so but it's too big for

11:27

my back back because it's starting to

11:30

deteriorate It likely didn't come with a

11:32

lifetime warranty. No, but I've had it

11:34

for since before Queens so No, I've

11:36

had it for 10 years when they

11:39

had it for 10 years. Well about

11:41

time to get a new one then.

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No, I love it. It's great. All

11:46

right. That's that's the outside. All right

11:48

All right, now that we have the

11:50

best umbrella out of the way, let's

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get to the inside of our, what

11:55

we have something to say. So my,

11:57

I want to say, I have set

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up my like bag system because I

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often switch from bags. That's I think

12:04

an important thing, because I switch from

12:06

my backpack, this nice one. to my

12:09

more rugged backpack when I have like

12:11

longer days, travel days, to my bike

12:13

bags, to not a backpack. So I

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often don't carry one. So I actually

12:18

have like bags within bags. So I

12:20

have a laptop bag that also has

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stuff in it that I carry and

12:25

it has like some of the same

12:27

stuff that my backpack has all the

12:29

time because I'm just worried about not

12:31

having stuff sometimes. And then I also

12:34

have a little purse. inside my backpack.

12:36

Wow. The one and I get this

12:38

little person from Etsy from this like

12:41

adorable little shop and it's little and

12:43

it's hand crocheted and it's so cute

12:45

and I've ordered it like four times

12:48

because I know that yeah they're just

12:50

great. But I have that bag inside

12:52

the show notes. I will. Yeah. So

12:54

I have like three levels of bags

12:57

within themselves and the reason I do

12:59

this is so I never have to

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think like where is my wallet or

13:04

do I have Lipchap with me because

13:06

I always have them. They're always in

13:08

the bags I'm gonna start with the

13:10

littlest bag and then move up because

13:13

the littlest bag is the one that

13:15

I like take out all the time

13:17

because it's it's got my wallet in

13:20

it and it's got my like a

13:22

one lip chap usually like a bird's

13:24

bees lip like Blistex or a brand

13:27

and I don't know if every other

13:29

household uses it as like Kleenex kind

13:31

of thing. But PlusX is a brand

13:33

of lip conditioner and I use Bertzbe's

13:36

usually. So that's usually when I go

13:38

to. They also have like tinted ones

13:40

which are kind of nice. So that's

13:43

usually inside my little purse and along

13:45

with like my sunglasses. So that's always

13:47

in my little bag which is in

13:50

my bigger backpack just because then it's

13:52

I know exactly where it is. And

13:54

I can pull it out easily. So

13:56

that's the littlest bag. And then the

13:59

second bag inside the bag is my

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laptop bag, which I love. You got

14:03

me this for Christmas. It's a bellroy

14:06

laptop case. And so... We'll link to

14:08

it in the show notes. Yeah, it's

14:10

great. So it has like my my

14:12

laptop, which is just a Macbook air?

14:15

Is that what this is? Not just

14:17

a Macbook air. That's a nice laptop.

14:19

I think it's like the classic, if

14:22

you have a Mac, this is like

14:24

the classic laptop. Yeah, it's great. If

14:26

you need to buy, if you need

14:29

to buy a laptop, that's just the

14:31

one to get. And it's like the

14:33

goldenish color one, which I actually really

14:35

love. Starlight. Yeah, which I love. So

14:38

I have the Starlight Mac book air

14:40

from three or four years ago. I

14:42

don't know how they versioned that, so

14:45

whatever. But it's great. I love this

14:47

thing. M2. Oh, M2. Sorry. My bad.

14:49

M2. So I love this little laptop.

14:51

It is great. And the other thing

14:54

inside of this laptop bag are all

14:56

of the charges, but also this little

14:58

cute little spray thing that you got

15:01

me. Oh, yeah, yeah. Those things are

15:03

great. So it's basically a screen wipe.

15:05

Well, the problem with last screen wipes

15:08

is you need like the spray thing

15:10

and then you need a microfiber cloth

15:12

for cleaning your stuff. So you got

15:14

to spray it. that it's like a

15:17

little mini spray bottle that's rectangular. It

15:19

fits inside of a plastic sleeve, a

15:21

plastic hard sleeve. But wrapped around that

15:24

spray bottle is a microfiber cloth. And

15:26

so it's essentially the spray bottle is

15:28

built out of a microfiber cloth that's

15:30

protected by this hard plastic case. So

15:33

you can spray it, you can wipe.

15:35

down a screen whenever you want. It's

15:37

tiny, it fits in anywhere. It's TSA

15:40

compliance, so you can put in your

15:42

liquid bag if you need to, and

15:44

we'll link to it in show notes

15:47

too. Yeah, it's great. So I love

15:49

this little thing and I carry it

15:51

all the time because it's, my computer's

15:53

just always kind of dirty. And I

15:56

don't know how that happens all the

15:58

time. Yeah, you know it's not touch

16:00

screen, right? I do. And then I

16:03

also have my pens, which are always,

16:05

and we've talked about these before, but

16:07

the, that's the best pen. Pilot, precise

16:10

V5. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, these

16:12

are the best pen that's available. to

16:14

purchase. I don't know if, I don't

16:16

remember what episode, but we essentially both

16:19

were arguing with each other that we

16:21

had found the best pen. It's like,

16:23

no I found the best, but we

16:26

had the best pen. It's just like

16:28

the pilot V5. You have the click

16:30

version and I have the lid version.

16:32

Because I've just had too many experiences

16:35

with pens leaking. So they look different,

16:37

but they are the same. Don't worry

16:39

everybody, we found it for you. We

16:42

found it. And mine's raspberry. The raspberry

16:44

colored one. Oh, I like the red

16:46

one for marking up papers. I get

16:49

that. All right. So that's by inside

16:51

bag situation. But I haven't even gotten

16:53

to the outside. Just the bags inside

16:55

the bag. Oh, just the bags inside

16:58

the bag. Oh, yes. Sorry, sorry. And

17:00

so the other things that I have

17:02

inside that bag that I also have

17:05

in my main matine that bag are

17:07

pens, like the same pens and the

17:09

same listics and the same chargers. Nice.

17:11

Yeah, it's a little duplicated, but I

17:14

just really hate not knowing I'll have

17:16

something with me. Yeah, apparently. Okay, on

17:18

the post it, no side. I have

17:21

come around, this is the wife was

17:23

right segment of the podcast, which there

17:25

could be one every week, let's be

17:28

honest, but the rectangular post it's. I

17:30

love this system of managing what I

17:32

have to do throughout. I feel everybody

17:34

needs like a little analog sidekick when

17:37

they work. Whether that's like a notebook

17:39

that they write in throughout the day,

17:41

like kind of an external working memory

17:44

of what you're working on. You can

17:46

keep your distractions list there. You can

17:48

keep what you're doing next in there.

17:50

You can jot down notes. You can

17:53

capture ideas. Just so you can get

17:55

it out of your head. Some external...

17:57

analog mental scratch pad. I use a

18:00

digital one. I use simple note for

18:02

that as well. It's my external working

18:04

member. We all need something like this.

18:07

I've been resistant to like using post-it

18:09

notes for it, but these rectangular-sized ones

18:11

are amazing for this. You can like

18:13

make a little line of them, you

18:16

can draw on them, you can make

18:18

little notes on them, you can theme

18:20

the different post-its. You've been doing this

18:23

for a long, long time. I am

18:25

finally coming around, I was chatting with

18:27

Dana, my colleague the other day. And

18:30

I mentioned this, how you were right

18:32

about this, and then she held up

18:34

a rectangular book of post and notes

18:36

because she does this too. So I

18:39

feel like I'm the last to this

18:41

party, but I'm in the club. Welcome.

18:43

Party in the club. Very delayed, but

18:46

yeah, that's okay Well, you've got okay,

18:48

so yeah the other main things Oh,

18:50

you've talked about that notebook before I'm

18:52

obsessed with this notebook. This is the

18:55

Septcoula I'm sorry for my French. I

18:57

don't speak very very good French. You

18:59

don't speaker. I don't speak French. Well,

19:02

not very much French You did the

19:04

duolingo a little bit. Yeah, you said

19:06

you want to do French training I

19:09

do. So at one point I was

19:11

Not bilingual, but I was like, I

19:13

could understand enough French, but now I

19:15

just never use it. So, like we

19:18

live in Ottawa, which is one of

19:20

the most bilingual cities in the world,

19:22

because we're right on the border with

19:25

Quebec, and there are so many people

19:27

who work and live across the border,

19:29

and so it's just very, very bilingual,

19:31

because the federal government's also here. So

19:34

I worked with federal government and used

19:36

to be able to speak enough to

19:38

get by. Not great. Mark Kearney level

19:41

of French. He speaks way more French

19:43

than I've ever spoken. But yeah, more

19:45

French than I do now. Now I

19:48

am very not bilingual. But that's okay.

19:50

So this notebook is just great. It's

19:52

grid paper. You can also get those

19:54

lined ones, but I'm obsessed with this

19:57

little notebook. And it used to be

19:59

green, but right now I have a

20:01

turquoise one, which is nice. And then

20:04

I have my Cobo. So I love

20:06

this thing. This is the Cobo Black

20:08

and White. Cobo Canadian thing? No, it's

20:10

Japanese now because it's owed by Rakuten.

20:13

So Cobo is, it's like an e-reader.

20:15

Well, it is an e-reader. It's the

20:17

black and white version. And I have

20:20

it in their usual default case. But

20:22

the thing about this case is it

20:24

makes me love. using this e-reader. So

20:27

I also have a Kindle. And I

20:29

will say, since I got this, I

20:31

haven't used it basically once. Even though

20:33

all of my books are actually on

20:36

there. I haven't used the Kindle ones.

20:38

So the Cobo is great because it

20:40

connects to your library. So if you

20:43

have a library that uses Overrow Drive,

20:45

which is an app that many public

20:47

libraries use, you can download all of

20:50

those books on here. And it just

20:52

makes. the Cobo so much better,

20:54

because I actually used to read

20:56

library books on my phone. And

20:58

I get a lot of library

21:00

books. And this is just so

21:02

much more pleasant. And it sinks

21:04

so well. It's books are basically

21:06

the same price as Kindle, anyway.

21:08

So if you buy books outside

21:10

of the library, you can still

21:12

buy books on their e-book reader

21:15

site. So I think this is

21:17

the Cobo experience. what makes this

21:19

better to me than a Kindle.

21:21

But it also has the advantage

21:23

of the actual physical form factor

21:25

is kind of nice. It's like

21:27

smaller, so it actually fits in

21:29

my little cloth bag too. It

21:31

could fit in a pocket. It

21:33

could fit in a man's pocket.

21:35

Or some magical pocket in other

21:37

people's clothes, but I've never had

21:39

a pocket this big. So it

21:41

fits in my little cloth tiny

21:44

little purse, which is also great

21:46

because it's so small. And so

21:48

I love this, but the case

21:50

has also got this like nice

21:52

bendability to it. So you can

21:54

actually kind of fiddle with it

21:56

while you read. It fits better

21:58

with your hand. Like I cannot

22:00

emphasize how much I like this.

22:02

more than the Kindle. The only

22:04

thing that the Kindle has going

22:06

for it right now is that

22:08

all of my books are historically

22:10

on there. All of my old

22:12

books, my like 250 e-books that

22:15

I have on there, are all

22:17

stuck on there. So that is

22:19

the only downside of the Cobo

22:21

right now as my whole library

22:23

isn't on it. But for new

22:25

stuff, it's great. So I love

22:27

this thing. So that's always in

22:29

my bag, whatever backpack I'm using.

22:31

My laptop bag is obviously in

22:33

there. And then I don't actually

22:35

have a lot of other stuff.

22:37

I like to carry pretty lean

22:39

setup. So I also do have

22:41

posted notes on there and all

22:44

the time. And then that's it

22:46

folks. That's all she wrote. That's

22:48

all she wrote. Because we're doing

22:50

pockets after. Because I use pockets

22:52

weird in backpacks. Oh. Yeah. Oh,

22:54

I was talking about like closed

22:56

pockets. Oh, I don't have those.

22:58

Okay, so in the pocket, so

23:00

you know how there's like a

23:02

glasses case in backpacks? Like the

23:04

glasses pocket? No, I don't. So

23:06

it's like a little narrow pocket

23:08

that is like always attached to

23:10

the side of backpacks. I think

23:12

it's intended for glasses, but I

23:15

don't have glasses. And so I

23:17

within all of that side pocket,

23:19

I always put just all of

23:21

my pens. and a tide to

23:23

go and a nail file because

23:25

you need a tide to go

23:27

so often. Like you, I feel

23:29

like once you realize if you

23:31

carry one, you realize, oh I

23:33

use this all the time. And

23:35

so I always, always, always, always

23:37

have one in my backpack. And

23:39

then I also carry a nail

23:41

file with me because I think,

23:44

well, that just, it sucks to

23:46

break a nail and I use

23:48

them all the time. If I

23:50

don't have a nail file, I

23:52

will just bite my nails. I

23:54

will just bite my nails. I

23:56

hate carrying stuff around as we've

23:58

talked about before. So I often

24:00

want space for my lunch too.

24:02

So I just, that's, that's all

24:04

I carry. Cool. Yeah. it. What

24:06

about you? Oh, well you just

24:08

reminded me to grab my notebook.

24:10

I do mostly digital notes when

24:12

I'm out. See this? Yeah. Why

24:15

do you, Chris has something printed

24:17

and then pasted into a written

24:19

notebook? Well it's my field notes,

24:21

well because I was doing, okay,

24:23

I hope nobody's at this event

24:25

is listening to this podcast. Maybe

24:27

they are. Remember that award I

24:29

got? It's an early, they call

24:31

it an early career success award

24:33

for my business school. I call

24:35

it my peak early award. Yeah,

24:37

early career achievement. Yeah, early career

24:39

achievement. Yeah, early career achievement. Yeah,

24:41

early career achievement. Yeah. But they

24:44

asked me to do a little

24:46

speech. And I wanted it to

24:48

look, I'm gonna sound like a

24:50

phony. Yeah, this is kind of

24:52

funny. I wanted to like. put

24:54

a little thought into this speech,

24:56

but I wanted to like, I

24:58

didn't want to bring up a

25:00

piece of paper. So I printed

25:02

it off and I cut it

25:04

out and put it in my

25:06

field notes notebook. So it would

25:08

look like I'm reading some, like

25:10

a little note that I made

25:12

that day. You're such a goof.

25:15

That's funny. I mean, every time

25:17

somebody brings up a phone to

25:19

do a speech, I think, like

25:21

I get that that's where people

25:23

are writing stuff now, but I

25:25

do feel like it looks less.

25:27

I don't know. polished to read

25:29

off of a phone because it's

25:31

also like I'm like are you

25:33

getting notifications? But what's the vibe

25:35

when you read from a field

25:37

note notebook? Yeah it looks very

25:39

whimsical. Yeah it's like it's like

25:41

oh professor with messy hair reads

25:44

notebook. Vibe. So I have my

25:46

field notes notebook that I just,

25:48

I love this little thing. I

25:50

always forget it's in my bag

25:52

until I need to capture something

25:54

on the go and then I

25:56

know it's in the bag. It's

25:58

just muscle memory at this point.

26:00

The pens that are in this

26:02

compartment, I have an emergency pen

26:04

because there are sometimes that I

26:06

empty this little compartment of my

26:08

bag. And there's my emergency pen,

26:10

my baron fig that's tiny. It's

26:12

nice. Burgundy. So, you know, there's

26:15

always the times that you can't

26:17

find a pen. That's when you

26:19

need your emergency pen. Like a

26:21

little pen in your wallet or

26:23

in your purse or in your

26:25

backpack that you'll be so happy

26:27

it's there when you need it

26:29

the most. But I want to

26:31

start with my over ear headphones.

26:33

Now, I have a hot take

26:35

for you, Arden. Airpods Max suck.

26:37

Now you're wrong. They make my

26:39

ears sweaty and gross. I have

26:41

that weird condensation issue that a

26:44

lot of people complain about. They're

26:46

heavy, they're uncomfortable, they make my

26:48

ears hurt. The transparency mode is

26:50

amazing on them. I'll say that.

26:52

I do use them for calls.

26:54

I think a year or so,

26:56

whenever these came out actually, I

26:58

switched to the Sonos Ace headphones.

27:00

Everybody I know who has these

27:02

loves them. including people who used

27:04

to have AirPods Max. So if

27:06

you have a Sonos, one of

27:08

the nice Sonos soundbars, you can

27:10

press one button on these things

27:13

and the audio will switch from

27:15

the soundbar to the headphones in

27:17

full spatial audio, where you get

27:19

the at most in them, and

27:21

that has worked every single time.

27:23

It is never not worth it.

27:25

So I could press one button

27:27

and hear the TV audio if

27:29

I'm watching something late at night.

27:31

I like these better than the

27:33

Airpods Max. Don't pay full price

27:35

for these because they're always on

27:37

sale somewhere. They're better than the

27:39

Airpods Max. I love my Airpods

27:41

Max. I have too many devices

27:44

to be constrained to two, which

27:46

like all the Bluetooth devices are

27:48

stuck to. So like that was

27:50

actually so annoying for me that

27:52

I... Can't imagine not using the

27:54

airports because they allow you multiple.

27:56

products, they can connect to multiple.

27:58

And Bluetooth limitations. Headphones, you can

28:00

only connect to two at once.

28:02

And I know that's like a

28:04

very annoyed, like that's like such

28:06

a niche problem. Most people have

28:08

like a computer and a phone.

28:10

But I have multiple computers and

28:13

I have an iPod and a

28:15

phone and like it was too

28:17

annoying. So I actually for that

28:19

reason alone, I won't use them.

28:21

I don't have this sweaty year

28:23

problem that you do. So. Yeah.

28:25

It's gross. I actually don't have

28:27

a lot in my lot in

28:29

my bag. I have the headphones,

28:31

I have a cable organizer bag,

28:33

has all the different... Do you

28:35

carry that with you every day?

28:37

Maybe 50% if I'm going to

28:39

the coffee shop, I don't. If

28:41

I'm traveling, I do 100%. If

28:44

I'm going anywhere beyond a coffee

28:46

shop. Wow. Yeah, yeah, I do.

28:48

Because if you need a cable,

28:50

it's in there. Has every cable

28:52

you need. This is how I

28:54

end up with three versions of

28:56

cables. Like if I carry my

28:58

laptop bag. and my backpack and

29:00

I'm usually, if I'm traveling, I

29:02

carry my charger bag, I end

29:04

up with like three versions of

29:06

every cable because I... It's like

29:08

no wasarka up in there. I

29:10

always have also, and this is

29:13

my final thing, I travel very

29:15

very light. Cable bag about half

29:17

the time, the umbrella is also

29:19

one of the variable things, maybe

29:21

about a third of the time.

29:23

If it's going to rain or

29:25

it has rained recently, it'll still

29:27

be in there because it doesn't

29:29

weigh that much, especially in this

29:31

Lulu Lemon and backpack. But I

29:33

always have analog reading material as

29:35

well. So I always have a

29:37

study in a book. So a

29:39

study that I'm in the middle

29:41

of reading where like a bit

29:44

of downtime waiting at the doctor's

29:46

office or just somewhere, pull out

29:48

the study. My red pen. on

29:50

paper. And or if I'm not

29:52

feeling that I have a book

29:54

with me, the one I'm holding

29:56

in my hand here, our green

29:58

heart, the soul and science of

30:00

forests. And yeah, oh, you want

30:02

me to read the study? So

30:04

you don't read it as an

30:06

e-reader? Not really. No, no. The

30:08

study I have here, if anybody's,

30:10

probably people aren't interested, but universals

30:13

in the context and structure, values

30:15

theoretical advances and imperial tests in

30:17

20 countries. Wow. And you make

30:19

fun of my studies. And but

30:21

like the study, like the study,

30:23

the book, the headphones. I don't

30:25

really care. Oh, and the laptop.

30:27

I should say. The cable organizer

30:29

bag. My laptop is, so when

30:31

Apple first switched to these new

30:33

processors, when they first started making

30:35

their own silicon, 2021, I bought

30:37

a laptop. The 14-inch MacBook Pro.

30:39

I've had this sense at that

30:41

point. I'm going to drive this

30:44

thing into the ground. I love

30:46

this thing. I'm going to use

30:48

it until it's like hanging on

30:50

by one thread until it... It

30:52

croaks. It's incredible. Apple, like there's

30:54

stuff just last forever, which is

30:56

nice. Yeah, it's great. And you

30:58

can get a battery replacement and

31:00

be great. Yeah. Yeah. Two things

31:02

I'm realizing I didn't mention in

31:04

my carry is I usually do

31:06

have hair on headphones. I usually

31:08

carry because they were in my

31:10

pocket. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

31:13

Is my Airpods pro. Yeah, no,

31:15

they're in my pocket too. Yeah.

31:17

I don't actually carry my Airpods

31:19

backs backs with me. and I

31:21

have ones that work. And then

31:23

so I just carry the little

31:25

ones for my travel. And I

31:27

also usually have an algae and

31:29

bottle, but it's in the dishwasher.

31:31

So I forgot. But the little

31:33

one, the mini one, the little

31:35

one, the little 400 milliliter one,

31:37

because it's the only water bottle

31:39

that's small enough and also airtight.

31:41

Like that thing is never gonna

31:44

leak. So because I put it

31:46

inside my bag, it's gotta be

31:48

super, super, super waterproof waterproof. So

31:50

it stays in my little backpack.

31:52

Love it. Those are our bags.

31:54

Oh yeah, pockets. Do you actually

31:56

carry stuff in your pockets? Yeah.

31:58

What? My phone in my... front

32:00

left which is often in my

32:02

laptop bag honestly but that's in

32:05

in my pocket I don't have

32:07

a case cases are dumb I don't

32:09

know why everybody has a case on

32:11

their phone because they all wiggle now

32:13

like if they're wobble now if

32:15

you put your phone on its back

32:18

it wobbles I have it in my

32:20

hand I use it in my

32:22

hand like a normal person and people

32:24

I don't drop my phone I've never

32:26

dropped my phone ever good for

32:28

you That's not true. I have

32:31

seen you drop your phone. That's

32:33

a lie. That's a boldface lie.

32:35

No, I've dropped it. I

32:38

probably dropped my phone once

32:40

a year. Cool. Good for you, Chris.

32:42

She says. But yeah, just

32:44

don't drop your phone. You

32:46

won't need a case. And

32:48

the Airpods Pro. Nice. There

32:50

you go. That's our everyday

32:52

carry. Nice. Love it. Love it.

32:54

Yeah. Fun little episode. We'll link to

32:56

everything in the show notes. We hope

32:59

you didn't, we didn't cost you much

33:01

money today. And we will

33:03

return to our usual productivity

33:05

oriented. How is this not productivity? I

33:07

guess it is, yeah. Yeah, it's like the stuff

33:09

that, like the setup that allows

33:12

for productivity. Yeah, this is this

33:14

is your productivity baseline. Yeah, my

33:16

baseline is just like being over prepared

33:18

all the time by having three versions

33:20

and everything in my bag. Yeah, like

33:23

honestly, I don't need much more than

33:25

this laptop. to be productive on the

33:27

go. Like this is my main

33:29

driver. I plugged this into my

33:31

setup at home. We talked about

33:33

one cable connects to everything here.

33:35

And this, so like it's this

33:37

to do the main work. And

33:39

you know, a little notepad for

33:41

idea capture. And for the little

33:44

gaps in between, so I don't

33:46

distract myself and stuff. There's the

33:48

study, there's the book. kind of

33:50

different ways of going in deep

33:52

with those things. You have your

33:54

Kindle, you have your analog things.

33:56

Not the Kindle, it's a cobo.

33:58

But it's kind of like sent. around

34:00

a laptop, this everyday

34:02

carry workflow. And my notebook.

34:05

This notebook? Like, if I

34:07

lost this notebook, my life would

34:09

be much harder. Oh. Yeah, so

34:11

it's a mainstay in my day today.

34:13

Love it. Us our everyday carry.

34:16

Every day. Yeah. We hope you,

34:18

we're curious, what essential things

34:20

you carry around. Yeah,

34:23

email me, Chris at

34:25

Chris Bailey.com. Would love

34:28

to hear from you.

34:30

Yeah, we hope you

34:33

have a wonderful week.

34:35

Hope you've enjoyed poking

34:38

around in our in

34:41

our backpacks. See you.

34:43

A couple Tuesdays. Bye.