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Tost Popcorn is

1:00

a production

1:02

of I Heart

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Radio. Hi, I'm

1:06

Siena Jackel. And

1:08

I'm Leana Holsten.

1:11

And welcome to

1:14

Tost Popcorn, the

1:16

podcast where two

1:19

idiots watched every

1:21

film on the AFI...

1:23

And I'm Leanna Holsten. And

1:26

welcome to Tost Popcorn, the

1:28

podcast where two idiots watched

1:30

every film on the AFIs

1:32

100 Greatest American Movies of

1:34

All Time, the very slightly

1:37

less racist 10th anniversary edition,

1:39

and are now watching films

1:41

that we choose that are

1:43

now directed by women. This

1:45

podcast is a safe fishing

1:48

barge for people who don't

1:50

know anything about movies. Today,

1:52

we're watching... Coda

1:54

We're gonna sell

1:57

our own fish

1:59

A film with lots of

2:01

Oscar buzz around it. A

2:03

couple of years ago. It

2:05

was the thing. Warning! There

2:07

will be spoilers about this.

2:09

Sweet film. Aw? All right.

2:11

Okay. Okay. Oh, Sienna, let's

2:13

just blast through these predictions,

2:15

because I gotta get to

2:17

Hey Girl. Okay, okay, okay,

2:19

okay. Just here. Had you

2:22

seen this before? No, I

2:24

hadn't. Okay, me neither. Okay,

2:26

perfect. Yours first? We are

2:28

so problematic. We don't see

2:30

any of the groundbreaking films.

2:32

I know. When they actually

2:34

come out. We try. We

2:36

can do mine first. Then

2:38

we'll try and we'll see

2:40

those you're all too and

2:42

then we're screwed. Oh yeah,

2:44

fuck us. Okay, great. Ready?

2:46

We are the problem, yes.

2:48

Hi, Siena, it's Leonna. I'm

2:50

about to watch Coda. I've

2:52

heard great things. You know.

2:54

I predict, you know, apparently

2:56

it's beautiful, so okay, it'll

2:59

be that. Love you, bye,

3:01

woo! Okay, Leon, on my

3:03

prediction. Yes? Hi, Leon, this

3:05

is Siena. I'm about to

3:07

watch Coda. My mom really

3:09

likes this movie, and I've

3:11

been waiting to watch it

3:13

for forever, but I've never

3:15

seen it. I know it's

3:17

about the child of a

3:19

deaf parent, of a child

3:21

of deaf adult. Is that

3:23

actually what Coda means, something

3:25

like that? I predict it

3:27

will make me cry or

3:29

at least cheer up. I

3:31

guess I never say that.

3:34

Oh. Yep, okay, I love

3:36

you, goodbye. Oh. I think

3:38

that's what that means. I

3:40

knew it was a music

3:42

symbol and I was like,

3:44

why is this the title

3:46

of the film? I'm an

3:48

idiot. Oh, we are idiots.

3:50

Okay, between the two of

3:52

us. Oh, okay, I'm almost

3:54

understood. Not to be rude,

3:56

but that makes so much

3:58

sense. Somebody found out about

4:00

both those terms and they're

4:02

like I gotta make this

4:04

movie. And also, they're gonna

4:06

be fishermen. Maybe because of,

4:08

well, I've already seen your

4:11

first note, but anyway. My

4:13

perfect first note, thank you. Uh,

4:15

Leona, hey girl. Hey girl. Yeah,

4:17

I guess I'll start. Um. You

4:20

got chastised at the post office?

4:22

Oh my gosh. I got chastised

4:24

at the post office

4:26

this week. I had to

4:29

ship things internationally twice this

4:31

week. One, my brother's Christmas

4:34

present to him because it

4:36

finally arrived from Latvia. Love

4:38

that! For those keeping tabs

4:40

on the journey from Latvia to

4:43

now California, although they

4:45

shipped it through Los Angeles.

4:47

So it's currently in Los

4:49

Angeles. The Latvia gift? Yeah,

4:51

it might not get to him because it's

4:53

in Los Angeles. And I went and I

4:55

brought my little envelope and the items and

4:58

I went to the counter and I said,

5:00

hi, I need to ship this to California,

5:02

please, because I don't understand how the mail

5:04

works. So I didn't know what I was

5:06

supposed to put into what where. And they

5:09

were like, oh my God, you need to

5:11

get away from the counter and write

5:13

the address on this envelope and put

5:15

everything in there and come back once

5:17

all of that is done. I also

5:19

feel like maybe I could

5:21

just write it down here

5:23

and we don't need to

5:25

really send me away just

5:27

so that you can sell

5:29

some stamps to the next

5:31

person. It's not going to take

5:33

me that long. Okay. And then

5:36

today I had to ship some items

5:38

for work and they had

5:41

batteries in them and I almost

5:43

nearly got arrested. I mean

5:45

the reaction was such. I

5:48

tried to use the self-chiosk,

5:50

the self-checkout area, and was

5:52

quickly chastised because apparently that's

5:55

only for items being shipped within

5:57

the UK. And how could you know? And

5:59

where was... the sign for that, please.

6:01

And then I tried to put

6:03

all of them in one envelope

6:05

and they said, oh my God,

6:07

you can't do that because they

6:09

might all rub together and explode

6:12

in the post. Rub together. Well,

6:14

now why are we? Not rub

6:16

together and explode. They would rub

6:18

together. Sorry about that phrase. I'm

6:20

hearing it back now. Well, they

6:22

might. They're horny batteries. That's what

6:24

they said to me. And I

6:26

said, okay. And then. I'd written

6:28

the return address on the envelope

6:31

and they were like, you can't

6:33

write two addresses on one envelope

6:35

because the scanner scans the first

6:37

address it sees. And I at

6:39

that point literally said out loud,

6:41

well, this is going terribly. That's

6:43

what they want. And he said,

6:45

yeah, it's not going great. And

6:47

I said, well, what am I...

6:49

How can they have the mail?

6:52

How could they ever have British

6:54

comedy if things there went well?

6:56

I feel like the whole... People

6:58

need to be like, oh, bother.

7:00

Who'd bother? And I was very

7:02

oh bother. I was oh bother.

7:04

But everything got mailed and... I

7:06

think it's all gonna... Well, the

7:08

king's face is on a lot

7:10

of pieces of mail now that

7:13

I've sent this week. Because I

7:15

had to send today's stuff in

7:17

multiple envelopes. Give it up. Give

7:19

it up to the batteries rubbing

7:21

together and exploding. We're over him.

7:23

And that's been a big thing

7:25

in my week. Dang. Siena. Hey

7:27

girl, you are not in Los

7:29

Angeles County currently? I left Los

7:32

Angeles because of the fires, the

7:34

many fires. And I'm here in

7:36

Orange County at my partner's parents'

7:38

place. Thank you so much for

7:40

housing us all of a sudden.

7:42

My house is safe. It is

7:44

not burned up. There's lots of

7:46

highway around. So as long as

7:48

nothing goes insanely wrong, it should

7:50

be fine. But the problem with

7:53

today's day and age and climate

7:55

change is that things are happening

7:57

differently than they ever have before.

7:59

So you just can't count on

8:01

anything. But yeah, flames, my house

8:03

going up in flames, not the biggest

8:05

thing that we're worried about. All good. Okay.

8:07

Okay. I think what's been really bad

8:10

is air quality. That's why everybody

8:12

had to leave. Because there's literally

8:14

so much smoke, there was so

8:16

much ash in the air. And it's not

8:18

just forest fires, which is true, but it's

8:20

not just forest fire smoke. it's property fires.

8:22

So there's so much toxic stuff in the

8:24

air. Oh wow. Yeah, I'm on the east

8:27

side by the eaten fire. So here's what

8:29

happened the other night. Also if you're wondering,

8:31

oh, the stuff is happening in Los

8:33

Angeles, I wonder if it's affecting the

8:35

people I know, it almost certainly is,

8:38

because it's happening on either side of

8:40

Los Angeles, almost everybody I know has

8:42

evacuated for the last few days, because

8:44

the air quality is like horrible horrible,

8:47

unless you can stay inside, and you

8:49

have a really good air purifier purifier.

8:51

If you have somewhere else to go, it's

8:53

just safer to be gone. So, Tuesday

8:55

night, actually Tuesday in the

8:57

morning, my partner Kelsey texted

9:00

me a picture of this fire because he

9:02

works really far on the west side,

9:04

so he could see the palisades from

9:06

where he was. And he sent me

9:08

this picture, and I actually hardened it

9:10

because I thought he was sending me

9:12

a picture of the view. But in

9:14

fact, there was smoke that I didn't

9:16

notice in picture. And he said, you

9:18

love the fire, and I was wrong.

9:20

Oh, and that was the first glimpse we

9:23

saw of the fires. He's like, at

9:25

this, he was actually another museum for

9:27

some work thing, and he was, they

9:29

could see, had a perfect view of

9:31

just smoke coming up from the palisades,

9:33

and he's like, it looks like there's

9:35

a really bad fire there. So it keeps

9:37

going on throughout the day, and we get

9:40

news updates that the palisades are burning.

9:42

We're like, that's really, really, really windy.

9:44

The Santa Ana winds are hitting,

9:46

or some kind of winds. Tuesday

9:48

night it's so so so so windy it was so windy

9:50

I was afraid something was going to fall in my car

9:53

so I went outside to go move my car so much

9:55

stuff got in my eyes and the wind was so blowing

9:57

so hard that I saw that I wasn't under a tree

9:59

and I just gave up. So I turned around. Kelsey

10:02

is really near to that fire on the

10:04

West or he looks near to me. Like the

10:06

only thing between him and the fires is

10:08

a bunch of trees and he lives on one

10:10

in like a secluded area where there's just

10:12

one street. So I text him and I'm like,

10:14

please, please, please come over, please come over

10:16

before a tree falls and you can't get out

10:18

and something horrible happens. Please go now. Cause

10:20

it's so windy. And he took his damn sweet

10:22

time packing up his stuff to get over

10:24

and I was so stressed and he finally, he

10:26

drives over and but all the power is

10:28

going out. My power never went out but the

10:31

power went out all across the city. He

10:33

finally drives over by the time he gets to

10:35

me a fire on my side of town has sprung

10:38

up. Oh my God. So now that eating fire

10:40

is going on, we thought we were going to have

10:42

sort of like a power out night or if

10:44

the power was on, we just all just like hunker

10:46

down and watch a movie together. So we put

10:48

on the movie Babe. What

10:51

the fuck? One of my roommates is like, I

10:53

don't know. I just really want to watch Babe

10:55

right now. So we put on Babe and then

10:57

we put the news on next to Babe because

10:59

we've been watching it all night to just make

11:01

sure that the fire isn't coming to my side

11:03

of town. Yeah. And it looked like it was

11:05

okay. By the time we're going to bed, it

11:07

was going east instead of towards us. We go

11:09

fantastic. We go to bed the morning we all

11:11

wake up at like 745 coughing

11:14

itching so much ashes in the air

11:16

that has gotten into our house despite

11:18

the shut windows. Oh my God. And

11:20

we're all like, we got to get

11:22

out of here. So the first thing

11:24

in the morning, all my friends from

11:26

the area come over, there were like

11:28

15 people in the house and we

11:30

all just figured out where we were

11:32

leaving to because we had to evacuate

11:34

going outside. You could not spend more

11:37

than a minute out there because there's

11:39

so much ash and soot and my

11:41

car was covered in ash. And we're

11:43

like miles from everything, but you can

11:45

tell it's toxic. It's like plastic. It's

11:47

paint. It's not just yeah, but it

11:49

was just super, super, super windy and

11:51

embers were flying across the city and

11:53

everything caught on fire. Wow. And the

11:55

fire is just getting fed. And the

11:57

other thing that I'm learning so much

11:59

about is, you know, people are Oh, they're

12:01

not containing it. They're not containing it.

12:04

Fire is fire. It's just going

12:06

to burn. There's nothing you can

12:08

do. What are you going to do?

12:10

Wet the sides? And then hope it

12:13

stops. Like, you have to wait until

12:15

it kind of just simmers down. I'm

12:17

so dumb. I did think that's what

12:19

you did. There's too much fire.

12:22

There's too much fire. There's

12:24

not enough people. There's too much

12:26

fire. We are but men

12:28

on this earth. We have the

12:31

climate change is so problematic

12:34

and it's so important

12:36

for us to work

12:39

to stop it because

12:41

we can't This is

12:43

what happens nature that

12:46

much. Yeah, when is that

12:48

colossal? Wow. Yeah, so

12:51

I guess I won't make

12:53

my improv show

12:55

tonight. Oh Speaking of

12:57

coastal towns. Yeah, Siena. Let's get

12:59

into our film. Let's get into

13:01

it. Gosh, this feels like such

13:04

a hairpin turn into a podcast.

13:06

Yep. Oops. Leona, your first note,

13:08

which I have to read because

13:10

I actually read. Oh no, we

13:12

need a synopsis, please, of the

13:15

film. Oh my gosh. Oh, crap.

13:17

I did write one. No worries.

13:19

Honestly, no worries, if not. You've

13:21

been dealing with a lot. That's where

13:24

I draw the line. That is

13:26

where I go. But I'm not

13:28

doing this enough. Okay. Coda.

13:31

Ruby is the only

13:33

hearing member of a

13:35

deaf fishing family. The

13:37

two things happening in this

13:40

movie are that the

13:42

fishermen of the area

13:44

in Maine are trying

13:46

to get better pay.

13:48

Massachusetts. Oh crap. Wait.

13:50

Hmm, I ask you a number of

13:53

questions about me in this. And

13:55

it's 30 minutes away. I saw

13:57

fishermen and I just assumed I

13:59

like I'll bring up Maine through

14:01

this a number of times

14:04

and ask you about your

14:06

experience. The two things happening

14:08

in this movie is that

14:10

the fishermen of Massachusetts are

14:12

trying to get better pay

14:14

and they eventually start their

14:17

own company because they just

14:19

keep getting priced gouged and

14:21

it's really frustrating to watch.

14:23

And also, Ruby loves Singh!

14:25

She's been a translator for

14:27

her close-knit family her whole

14:29

life and she is now

14:32

trying to find her own

14:34

way as a senior in

14:36

high school about to graduate.

14:38

By the end of the

14:40

film. She's embraced her love

14:42

of singing and she gets

14:45

into Berkeley School of Music

14:47

after singing a beautiful but

14:49

inappropriately long audition song. Audition

14:51

song. Don't get me started

14:53

on that audition. I was

14:55

like, there's no way this

14:57

is right. Um, throughout it,

15:00

I kept saying, in what

15:02

world? In what world? World.

15:04

This movie was sweet. Yes.

15:06

But I'm kind of like

15:08

rude about it a number

15:10

of times. Oh my God,

15:13

thank God. Girl. Oh, thank

15:15

God. Oh, oh, thank God.

15:17

Oh, oh. Oh, thank God.

15:19

Oh, oh. Oh, thank God.

15:21

Oh, oh. Oh, thank God.

15:23

Oh, God. All the

15:26

deaf parts? Eight. Loved it.

15:28

Loved? Loved. I just felt

15:30

like there were a lot

15:32

of favors being traded in

15:34

this film. Like the people,

15:36

some of the people cast,

15:38

I was like, now how

15:40

did you end up here?

15:42

Just a few of them.

15:44

Interesting. And then all the

15:46

Oscar Noms, I'm like, all

15:48

the Oscar Noms? The parents,

15:50

incredible. The main girl? The

15:52

dad, great. She was in

15:54

it. This main actress. Clearly,

15:57

did not British. First of

15:59

all British. There were a

16:01

number of times where I

16:03

was like, sorry, is she

16:06

from a deaf family or

16:08

background? She's not. She just

16:10

learned it for the movie,

16:13

which comes through. Oh,

16:15

interesting. I was surprised.

16:18

I was surprised they

16:20

did that. My thing? I

16:22

found the plot so annoying.

16:24

And what I learned about myself is

16:26

I do not care for a film

16:28

whose plot arches toward The Big Audition.

16:30

No, a singing movie? A singing movie?

16:32

A singing movie? In a singing movie

16:35

somebody has to try to sing and

16:37

then they have to sing and we

16:39

have to watch them sing. No, that's

16:41

like, it's definitely a risky film. That's

16:43

why I was so surprised that it

16:45

just felt like a very, very,

16:47

very Hollywood movie. Like I truly

16:49

feel like somebody said, Koda. But

16:51

what about Koda? Oh. What about cod?

16:54

And that was just me typing

16:56

in the title of the film

16:58

to search it and I put

17:00

in the D and I said,

17:02

cod. And then it turned out

17:04

to be so very about fish.

17:06

Yeah. It really- It feels like

17:08

they said, let's make an Oscar

17:11

film. Okay. I know the code of the

17:13

things we need in modern day. I

17:15

have some amazing deaf actors who

17:17

I've wanted to work with and

17:19

I've wanted to tell their story.

17:21

I'm gonna make some, there are

17:23

some parts about the screenplay that

17:25

I enjoy, like the speeches and

17:27

stuff, I enjoyed them. Yeah. So

17:29

it's like, let's get them there.

17:31

Then what else can we do? What

17:33

else can we do? Their daughter loves

17:36

to sing. Yeah. And not only will she

17:38

love to sing. Let's make it a

17:40

classic. And then, listen, I

17:42

got a cousin with a

17:45

fisherman boat in Massachusetts. You

17:47

can shoot there for real

17:49

cheap. Not to completely

17:52

hate, there are many things

17:54

I enjoyed. But I was

17:56

like, this is Coda? I know, I

17:58

know, same. Okay, great. Are

18:00

you eating fish that

18:02

seems like it might

18:04

have been stomped on

18:07

by an angsty teen?

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I think really, truly, we have the

20:36

main gripe about this movie, which is

20:38

that it was a singing film and

20:40

that is insane. I

20:43

just, I don't care for a high

20:45

school a rock and sings Happy Birthday.

20:50

When that was the audition song, I

20:52

was I was like, that is

20:54

a famously hard song to sing. That

20:56

song doesn't fit in anyone's range because

20:58

it was written in the 18th

21:00

century for people whose bodies were smaller.

21:06

That's so funny.

21:08

Oh, Sienna,

21:11

your first

21:13

note is a

21:15

fisherman with a voice of

21:17

gold, Just like Jesus. Was

21:20

he a fisherman? Yeah. I

21:23

thought he was a construction worker. He was

21:25

carpenter. What was he an architect? Sorry, was

21:27

a carpenter. He wasn't a fisherman. Jesus

21:30

was a designer. He wasn't a fisherman.

21:32

I'm wrong. What's his thing with fish?

21:34

He just had a lot of them.

21:36

He gave people fish. Fishermen were super

21:38

in in the Bible. So

21:41

he's represented by the fish. It was

21:43

like the it job, like product banter.

21:45

Yeah, exactly. You know, people do startups

21:47

now. Back then they were fishermen. So

21:49

like a lot of his friends were

21:51

fishermen. So I, you know, I got

21:53

that wrong. Okay. Oh,

21:56

this is really interesting. Sienna, you wrote every high

21:58

schooler in this is 30. We love

22:00

that. And I thought they all were

22:02

teens. Really? Oh, they looked so old

22:04

to me. Mainly, okay, I'm sorry. This

22:07

is just me being a hater. One of

22:09

my main things about this movie where

22:11

I couldn't believe her friend, her

22:14

friend. The slut? The

22:17

slut, who by the

22:19

way - The underage slut? They were like, okay,

22:21

we need to cast a slut. And somebody was

22:23

like, oh, my friend has really been working

22:25

on her acting. Like, I think she could do

22:27

this role. She

22:30

didn't feel like a bona fide slut. She felt

22:32

like me playing a slut. It felt like me coming

22:34

on and being like, little

22:37

fingers. We can't call him little fingers

22:39

anymore because he has a big penis. Penis!

22:46

It just, I'm sorry. I thought her friend

22:48

was not the best actress and for that reason,

22:51

in a Everyone would have teen acting felt on

22:53

Candy Valley. I do not think I could do

22:55

better. It's like, that's why I felt like this

22:57

shouldn't be an And that's okay. And you are

22:59

not the only other actor out there. And that's

23:02

why we are able to critique this because there

23:04

are many people to choose from. Like, yeah,

23:06

exactly, exactly. Never thought about that before. They

23:08

caught so many shoes. That happens in like

23:10

fishing games, like as a joke. Yeah, like

23:12

you pick up a boot, a little, an

23:14

old leather boot and you say, ha ha,

23:16

there's probably a ton. But this was a

23:19

Nike sneaker. Yeah. Oh

23:21

my gosh, Leon, you said the only thing more annoying

23:23

than a drama kid? A choir kid. Did

23:26

you do choir? No.

23:28

I was watching this

23:31

I was interesting. I

23:33

had a personality. Oh, oh, oh, oh, I

23:35

thought you were gonna say, I was

23:37

interesting, I didn't do choir, but I did

23:39

do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I

23:42

thought you were gonna explain my words. I

23:44

just had stuff to say that made

23:46

others laugh and experience joy. I love when

23:48

he hands, when Mr. V hands that

23:50

one girl like a Maraca thing or whatever

23:52

that was, that ch -ch -ch -ch -ch -ch -ch -ch

23:54

-ch. And she does it so poorly, he

23:56

has to take it away. That, completely

23:59

realized. school. I'm really

24:01

sorry. I'm just over

24:03

the archetype of

24:06

teacher with kind of a

24:08

God complex who's mean to

24:10

you and yells at

24:12

everybody and treats children in

24:14

a way that's insane. So

24:16

I watched this with

24:18

my my current partner

24:20

ex -ocapella person.

24:24

Wow. Kelsey's an ex -ocapella person

24:26

and he was horrified watching this. He

24:28

was really? We can't go back.

24:30

I can't go back. No, no. Was

24:32

he horrified because it felt so

24:34

real? I think he just found it

24:37

so cringe people taking singing so

24:39

seriously. That is true and we were

24:41

talking about how very cringe this

24:43

is the person at school like it's

24:45

funny in the movie but this

24:47

this teacher at school would be so

24:49

fired. Oh my god.

24:51

The like sort of like

24:53

court -martialed. Sassy, cruel, treats

24:55

kids like adults in a way

24:57

that is kind of hard on

25:00

them, you know? You're wasting

25:02

my time. They would be so

25:04

fired. Oh my god. I did

25:06

love him though. Kind of felt like he

25:08

was in a different movie but I loved

25:10

him. He absolutely was. He was in a

25:12

different movie in a different tax bracket as

25:14

well. What was that house? Oh my gosh.

25:17

His coastal mansion? There was

25:19

a moment that he lives

25:21

in on a choir teacher's

25:23

salary with the child's. At a

25:25

public school in Massachusetts? What?

25:30

Class of 89, Berkeley. Berkeley

25:33

College Music. I'm sorry when they brought up

25:35

Berkeley I called up before it even the

25:37

words even appeared on the screen. Did you

25:39

really? Yeah, amazing. it was like I think

25:41

that if you thought about college and I'm

25:43

like they're gonna say Berkeley School of Music.

25:45

Oh my god because okay Slay, this movie

25:47

is like glee. It's like well what is

25:49

the girl who likes to sing on a

25:51

boat want to do? She needs to go

25:53

to music school. Did

25:56

they mention glee? Yeah he

25:58

was like I'll find which of

26:00

you are tenors, which of you

26:02

are altoes, and which of you

26:04

just watched too much glee. This

26:07

movie was like, ugh. We are

26:09

tired. You said, my hand in

26:11

bad mood or do I hate

26:13

this movie? I feel like this

26:15

is going to switch, the second

26:17

half was a completely different film.

26:19

Much like, no, sforato. I think

26:21

I, it's different, but it was

26:23

switched on this one. I think

26:25

I enjoyed her family when they

26:27

stopped, like the mom to me

26:29

felt like an an archetype also

26:31

for a lot of the movie.

26:33

And then she started feeling more

26:35

like a three-dimensional character in the

26:38

last third of the film. I

26:40

thought the dad was really good.

26:42

There just was much more emotional

26:44

connection at the end. I struggled

26:46

so much with this idea that

26:48

they rely solely on this one

26:50

person to interpret for them. Yeah.

26:52

And don't care at all about

26:54

what she wants to do with

26:56

her own life. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

26:58

It was interesting. It was so

27:00

interesting. The second half I really

27:02

liked a lot. I really felt

27:04

the frustration and the pain of

27:06

like, oh, you need to be

27:09

there for your family who needs

27:11

you, and they become reliant on

27:13

her and... Yeah. But, it's true,

27:15

it's interesting they wouldn't think about

27:17

that, but it did feel like

27:19

she had sort of self-centered and

27:21

scared parents, you know. They just

27:23

didn't know how to love her

27:25

in that way, you know. But

27:27

they kind of learned together as

27:29

a family. This is kind of

27:31

random right now, but... It was

27:33

sort of a significant moment for

27:35

me because definitely there were, though

27:38

the singing part was, it was

27:40

necessarily stupid. We are too, we

27:42

are too sort of drama kid-esque.

27:44

This is just, it's stupid and

27:46

we know that. But a lot

27:48

of the stuff about disability was

27:50

interesting and made me think a

27:52

lot of workers' rights. really frustrating,

27:54

really interesting. There were some moments

27:56

of tension, like when she had

27:58

to, she was. to go to

28:00

the to sing and the news

28:02

was here it's just so

28:05

heartbreaking and so frustrating and

28:07

stressed me out so much

28:09

when she was looking at

28:11

her phone oh my gosh I was in

28:13

fighter flight during that scene

28:15

I was stressed I think the

28:18

parents were so good I would have

28:20

watched them I wish it had been

28:22

a whole movie of them to be

28:25

honest but the part when

28:27

she was singing And

28:29

they were trying their best to pay

28:31

attention. It was an interesting thing

28:33

for me where I was like,

28:35

oh yeah, even beyond not obviously

28:37

being able to hear their daughter

28:39

singing, there's no reason why they would

28:41

have sort of any sense of like

28:44

a hearing, one hearing moment being, I

28:46

mean, obviously they know that, but

28:48

like for them, their actual experience

28:50

of her singing isn't like a

28:52

particularly poignant. moment the way it

28:54

is for everybody else because it's

28:56

just like another hearing like it's

28:58

such a hearing moment to hear

29:01

somebody sick. I was I was

29:03

being so problematic during that scene because

29:05

my superiority complex came in with

29:07

a vengeance where I was like

29:10

yet another reason why drama

29:12

kids are more interesting than

29:14

choir kids. Because if you're

29:16

deaf and you go to

29:18

a drama club performance,

29:20

at least we're

29:22

fucking doing something with

29:24

our bodies. We're wearing

29:27

fun costumes. There's a

29:29

lot visually that's interesting

29:32

to look at. These

29:34

skinny fucks just stood

29:37

in a line for

29:39

an hour and a

29:41

half. Yeah. I don't

29:43

know why I

29:46

have such a

29:48

beef with choir,

29:50

but I do.

29:53

Make the ugliest

29:57

noise you can!

29:59

Ah! I thought that they both did a

30:01

great job. I was frustrated with the

30:03

mom character. Yeah. I thought for a

30:06

lot of the film, it

30:08

was an annoying trope of the mom is

30:10

the bad guy, the dad is the understanding

30:12

one. Yeah, that does always happen. Yeah,

30:15

like when got away from by the end. Yeah. But

30:18

yeah, for the first, I found her very unsympathetic

30:20

for the first like two thirds of the

30:22

movie. Yeah, she kinda is. When she, like when

30:24

her daughter tells her she's doing choir and

30:26

her mom's like, why are you doing that? Yeah.

30:28

It was like, oh, I enjoy it and

30:30

I'm making friends. Yeah, it was so odd. Yeah,

30:32

that's a good point. I don't think. Yeah.

30:38

And I guess, I guess where it

30:40

felt strange. Absolutely people

30:42

can change over the course of a film.

30:44

Great. This one, it felt like

30:46

the whole time they were telling us like, oh,

30:49

but her daughter like loves her parents. Like that's not

30:51

the issue. The conflict here isn't that she has bad

30:53

parents. That's not what we're doing. And I was like,

30:55

but you're writing this mom as if she's like doing

30:57

a bad job. That's an interesting point. Yeah, that's an

30:59

interesting point. It's like, well, the family is close and

31:01

perfect. Yeah. Once they had

31:03

that scene where her mom and she and her

31:05

mom talk about like the day she was born and

31:07

it's just the two of them in her room.

31:09

I was like, great. Oh, they're close. And then from

31:11

there, from then out, I loved the mom. I

31:13

get what you mean though. looked so much like a

31:15

weathered fisherman to me. I

31:18

googled him. I was like, fisherman? Question

31:20

mark? And they're like, no, he's been an

31:22

actor for decades. Oh, I love him.

31:24

the 80s. And I was like, oh my

31:27

God, what? Look at your mom. She's

31:29

hot. Oh, I didn't like that. That cracked

31:31

me out. They were quite crass about

31:33

sex. And I was not comfortable. Parents

31:36

don't have sex. I don't know why we're putting forth

31:38

this narrative that they do. Oh,

31:42

Sienna, you wrote, I've never done

31:44

anything without my family before. Me

31:46

doing my taxes wrong. Sorry. I

31:48

would say just you. Yeah,

31:51

it is me generally. How did

31:53

you feel? Like, did you

31:55

connect with the through line of

31:57

like a very tight knit family? Totally,

31:59

yeah. Yeah. The Titan family, and especially

32:01

in high school, when she said to

32:03

her, like beyond just her being a

32:06

translator, I keep saying that, beyond just

32:08

her being an interpreter and, you know,

32:10

being the one hearing person in

32:12

her family, when he was like, you know,

32:14

you gotta be able to be places on

32:17

time, you gotta be able to, you know,

32:19

you're letting me down when Mr. V was

32:21

saying all that. And she eventually was

32:23

just like, I've never done anything

32:25

without my family. I felt completely

32:27

that way in high school. Wow, yeah,

32:29

I think that put that actually was

32:32

a really good way of putting what's

32:34

so weird about growing up and

32:36

what's so scary about it You know

32:38

is it's like mmm. I'm from a

32:40

close family and we do everything together.

32:42

I loved when they all went to

32:44

the audition together You didn't like

32:47

that? I liked that they drove there

32:49

together. I thought that was sweet Then

32:51

when they saw it, I have a lot

32:53

of qualms with the audition scene. I love

32:55

that they didn't care. I love how

32:57

much the family just didn't. And I

32:59

think some of that was like, we're

33:01

different than all the other family. So I

33:03

liked. The audition scene, you mean, I

33:05

did not understand what that one like.

33:08

Good. The piece of fiction where

33:10

they let the child who showed

33:12

up 30 minutes after her audition

33:14

slot still audition, bringing her own

33:16

teacher to do the score for

33:18

her. That was ridiculous. Start the

33:20

song over and have her family in

33:23

the auditorium for the audition.

33:25

No. Love? No. You hate Yo

33:27

Debez, but his character was completely

33:30

from another movie. I'm sorry. What

33:32

was going on? I'll play the music.

33:34

I'll play for her. I guess what

33:36

I didn't like about it. was the

33:38

fissure people, like the fishing side

33:41

of the movie felt so grounded

33:43

in reality and so like

33:45

dealing with harsh everyday things that

33:47

people in this town were going

33:49

through. And then the singing audition

33:52

plotline felt like complete fantasy

33:54

fiction. I completely agree. And

33:56

I was like, I don't

33:59

know how. I reconcile these two

34:01

into one movie. That's the thing,

34:03

that's a really good way of

34:05

putting when I was like this

34:07

is, was the Oscar movie of

34:09

the, of, of 2021? Because it

34:11

was, it was, it was two

34:13

different movies, is what it felt

34:15

like. It was very interesting, it

34:17

was strange, but it wasn't really

34:20

in like a super campy or

34:22

purposeful way. It didn't feel like

34:24

that, you know? It wasn't like

34:26

the lighting change, and she's suddenly

34:28

in this fantasy world. Yeah. It

34:30

was strange. It was strange. It

34:32

was strange. Yeah, I loved that

34:34

her family didn't. G, uh, G

34:36

and F. Sorry everybody, if you'll

34:38

excuse me, I need to go

34:40

sing my audition song and it's

34:42

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34:44

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at the choir concert. Yeah.

36:50

Yeah. All the choir is done performing

36:52

and they leave the stage and

36:55

then he's doing the intro for

36:57

the duet and he says that. And

36:59

I'm like, imagine being one

37:01

of the other. Obviously annoying,

37:04

but still a human. Choir

37:06

kids. Still definitely there. And

37:08

you're like, what the hell? They

37:10

already got the solo. We already

37:12

knew that they were. The right,

37:14

you had to go and

37:17

also say that? Uh-huh. So

37:19

when I sing, you don't

37:22

feel like making music?

37:25

Okay. Yeah, I never want

37:27

to make music

37:29

again. Leon, you said...

37:31

You said the next heterocouple,

37:34

I have to watch Snog.

37:36

I'm gonna KMS. Oh, yeah,

37:39

that's the other thing is

37:41

like... So the mean teacher

37:44

loves her, pairs her with

37:46

the guy she has a

37:49

crush on. They fall in

37:51

love, they kiss, they sing

37:53

a song together. I would,

37:55

obviously I have a

37:58

lot of personal... bitterness

38:00

tied to this kind of a plot

38:03

line, but it was so annoying.

38:05

I would call this movie the

38:07

opposite of Nosferatu. And

38:09

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38:20

just thinking about like this

38:23

one is such a predictable sort

38:25

of Hollywood movie and then. At

38:28

least, at least, at least... It

38:30

is a black... Oh man, at

38:32

least no one in this movie

38:34

died while inside another dead

38:37

person. That's something. And that

38:39

is why we're watching movies

38:41

by women, because I have

38:43

all that complaints about the

38:46

choir kid thing, but nobody

38:48

died boning each other, and

38:50

I love that. Okay, we've

38:52

done a lot of criticizing

38:54

of the pieces of the

38:56

piece. that we did not

38:58

enjoy, that disturbed our piece.

39:00

But Sienna, let's, let's award

39:02

the movies, some badges and

39:04

trages, badges for barges,

39:07

badges for barges, and

39:09

trages for taking a

39:11

large profit of the workers'

39:13

earnings. Yes, gosh, that was

39:15

so frustrated. Taking a large

39:17

portion. Oh, I have a badge for

39:19

nature. I appreciated their appreciation

39:21

for nature and how

39:23

she found the lake. Well,

39:26

you must have loved it because

39:28

it was Maine. It was Massachusetts.

39:30

A New England lake can be

39:32

a rejuvenating spot. That was so

39:34

beautiful. Oh, I got it swimming.

39:37

I had a badge for the parents.

39:39

Again, I loved these actors so much.

39:41

I already knew Marley Matlin, but I

39:43

had not seen this guy before. I

39:45

thought they were fantastic. And also, I

39:47

loved that they were just spicy parents.

39:50

Even though, you know, they had flaws.

39:52

They loved each other. They were crass.

39:54

But... You know, they were actually,

39:56

they were characters. And

39:58

they were strong. characters. I

40:01

thought they were awesome. I'm going

40:03

to require so much psycho analysis

40:05

about why I don't like it

40:07

when parents bang. My other badge

40:10

is a badge for when they

40:12

fade out the sound during the

40:14

duet at the choir concert so

40:16

you see how the concert feels

40:19

from the family's perspective. That was

40:21

great. I was actually hoping they

40:23

were going to do something like

40:25

that at some point because There's,

40:27

do you know the show, Strictly

40:30

Come Dancing? It's the UK's equivalent

40:32

of Dancing with the Stars. And

40:34

there was one season a few

40:36

years ago where one of the

40:38

contestants was deaf and for the

40:41

most part, for almost every dance,

40:43

they played music for it and

40:45

she could hear it. I think

40:47

she either had a cochlear implant

40:50

or she could feel like the

40:52

rhythm of the bass of the

40:54

music. But for one of the

40:56

numbers, they... faded out the music

40:58

so that for like a full

41:01

minute of the dance. Whoa, they're

41:03

dancing in silence. And it was

41:05

really so beautiful. Wow. It was

41:07

a good silence. I have goosebumps

41:10

now. No, it was complete silence.

41:12

Wow. That is so cool. It

41:14

was really lovely. So I liked

41:16

that moment a lot. Yeah, me

41:18

too. It's always powerful to... In

41:21

some ways when movies can show

41:24

you somebody else's experience in some

41:26

ways like I think that's a

41:29

powerful use of the medium that

41:31

we yeah, so much trouble with

41:33

Yeah, badge for ASL. I just

41:36

love ASL. It is such a

41:38

compelling language. It's just animated and

41:40

visual and so much depth and

41:43

I really I really enjoyed a

41:45

lot of the speeches they had

41:47

That's the end of my badges.

41:50

Oh, sorry. You too? Okay. I

41:52

feel so problematic. Not likely still.

41:55

But then I think it would

41:57

be problematic to like it just.

41:59

for the sake of liking it

42:02

because it represents an

42:04

underrepresented community. I think

42:06

you're right that there were two

42:08

movies happening. Yeah. And one of them

42:10

is the worst thing you could ever watch.

42:12

Yeah, that's true. Badge for... And

42:15

I'm sorry, I know my mom

42:17

really likes it, but I think

42:19

it's because you haven't experienced the

42:21

trauma of really annoying singer kids,

42:23

mom. Badge for... These parents can't

42:25

stop banging. I love that. Me

42:27

personally, I think that's awesome. Badge for

42:30

love this dad. I also love

42:32

Marley Matlin. I think the

42:34

first thing that's just like her

42:36

and her daughter, even though she

42:38

was being like a bad mom,

42:40

I was just so struck by

42:42

how compelling that scene was compared

42:44

to everything else I'd seen. Oh,

42:46

can I give one more badge? A

42:48

badge for the scene after the concert

42:50

where her dad asks her to sing

42:52

the song for him on the truck.

42:55

Yeah. And he like feels it

42:57

through her vocal. That was really

42:59

sweet. Oh yeah, just... Okay, I'd say

43:01

if I was gonna give a critique

43:03

of this movie in just

43:05

a few words, it would

43:07

be that this was like

43:09

six Oscar-worthy scenes after 70 minutes

43:12

of Glee. And so those final

43:15

Oscar-worthy scenes were really good

43:17

and compelling. It was just

43:19

like, oh, okay, here's all

43:21

the Oscar stuff. Because before

43:24

that, it was just like a

43:26

girl singing with a boy. Yeah. I

43:28

think those scenes were really good and

43:30

like when it was just her alone

43:32

talking to her parents, those scenes are

43:34

super compelling. I just loved the speeches

43:36

that her parents gave. And I thought

43:38

it was sweet when she started signing during

43:40

her singing. That was sweet. I'm just

43:42

really critical of the fact that they

43:44

didn't get somebody who's been doing it

43:47

since birth, but because I'm like, I think

43:49

that would have made it even more powerful,

43:51

but that again is me being a nipicker

43:53

or an idealistic. an idealistic viewer but I

43:55

thought that was really pretty and okay yeah

43:57

I started crying okay all right they got

44:00

Got me, okay, all right, they got right.

44:02

Badge for, I love it, they started

44:04

a successful business. Yes.

44:07

A movie where they succeed in,

44:09

they left the price gouging, people

44:11

in power. Yeah, and they started

44:14

the business, go off. And finally,

44:16

I did actually love when Mr.

44:18

V messes up the piano. So

44:21

she has to start again, because

44:23

she's doing so bad. And then

44:25

he's like, oops. My bad. Anyway,

44:27

love that. Trages? I literally

44:30

went when he did

44:32

that, I literally said out

44:34

loud, genius! My first

44:37

trages for dead fish. Yeah,

44:39

there were a lot of them,

44:41

and they were smashing them

44:44

around with their feet and

44:46

stuff. I was like, is

44:48

there a teen stomping on

44:50

my fish? When I eat a

44:52

fish, has it been stomped on

44:54

by a teen? A Massachusetts

44:57

teen who doesn't want to

44:59

be doing this? It's possible.

45:01

Traged for my very first

45:04

trage that I wrote down probably

45:06

very early on is, the singing

45:08

part is cringe for sure. Traged

45:10

for class ending in the middle

45:13

of a lecture. That never ever

45:15

happens in real life. And

45:17

in every film, the teacher

45:19

is like, and then in

45:21

1939, Germany decided to, and

45:24

the bell rings, and they're

45:26

like, well, I guess that's

45:28

it for today. I'm like,

45:30

no, you finished the lecture,

45:32

you spend like 10 minutes

45:34

talking about the homework, the

45:36

assignment, students ask questions.

45:38

It's kind of awkward, yeah.

45:40

What, what, I hate that in

45:43

films. Trage

45:45

for, again, I wrote this in

45:47

probably the first 20 minutes, I

45:49

wrote, not quite as complex as

45:51

I expected. Interesting. Interesting.

45:54

Interesting. Interesting that you

45:57

want deaf people to have

45:59

complex lives. No, it's because

46:01

it's an Oscar-worthy movie. It's the

46:03

movie that got so much Oscar

46:05

buzz, I could not believe it

46:07

was about a singing teen. But

46:10

again, as the movie went on,

46:12

I think that that critique would

46:14

then be turned into, there are

46:16

two stories going on. Because they

46:18

didn't bring up the workers' rights

46:20

part very deeply until the second

46:23

half, which was very, that was

46:25

a very compelling, very compelling film.

46:27

became exhausted at the memory of

46:29

having to stand up out of

46:31

my chair during the singing sessions.

46:34

The single rehearsals. Horrible. Horrible. Horrible.

46:36

Let me sit down. Traged. I'm

46:38

not a born singer. I want

46:40

to sit. I was born to

46:42

sit, not to sing. Traged for

46:45

that scene where everybody knows more

46:47

than you about something and you

46:49

realize it when you get to

46:51

the room. Terrifying. That was all

46:53

of college for me. Oh, for

46:56

the audition? I was like, I

46:58

didn't know about this. Mmm. College

47:00

when I got to an arts

47:02

program and everybody was talking about

47:04

artists and I was like, okay,

47:06

no, I'm taking this class because

47:09

I've never heard of one. I

47:11

don't know any, I know like

47:13

Vincent Van Go. And that should

47:15

be allowed. It's so annoying when

47:17

people already know things. It's terrible.

47:20

Trage for outside clothes on the

47:22

bed. On the sheets. In their

47:24

outside clothes. And they were really

47:26

fishing. Yeah. Oh, fishy bed. Traged

47:28

for, again, that doesn't bother me

47:31

that much, but I get it.

47:33

Traged for, there are some scenes

47:35

with her speech where it really

47:37

did not feel like she grew

47:39

up doing ASL. And I was

47:41

like, oh, that's such a missed

47:44

opportunity in my opinion. But. Traged

47:46

for, I really don't get high

47:48

school bullying as depicted in movies.

47:50

Okay. I don't know if I

47:52

don't remember high school high school.

47:55

What? Oh, smells like fish, fish

47:57

girl. Just don't

47:59

your parents are

48:01

deaf. I I

48:03

don't think that is happening. She seemed to be

48:05

the only rock in the world getting bullied also.

48:08

Yeah, odd Odd

48:11

yeah, I thought they're odd depiction of

48:13

high school It's like oh, yeah mean girls

48:15

are gonna be like, oh, you're a

48:18

fishy fish girl like we hate you. I

48:20

guess Yeah Really don't

48:22

get it. My final tragic is my

48:24

first tragic was okay. This is this movie

48:26

is a little cringe Mmm, and every time I

48:28

wrote that thing down it was one. They're

48:30

having a singing scene. So I think yep. Yep.

48:33

I think we get it Yep a

48:36

tragic for This is my

48:38

this will be my last

48:40

tragic a Trag for why

48:42

doesn't anyone ever explain what's

48:44

going on or try to

48:46

reschedule When they can't make something. Yeah

48:48

the scene Where

48:51

the news showed up and she

48:53

couldn't go to music practice because

48:55

she then had to interpret for

48:57

her parents for the news I

48:59

was like this would have been on their

49:01

calendar She could easily

49:03

just text her music

49:06

Tutor and say hey, I'm

49:08

really sorry. This is what's going on Could

49:10

we maybe move these sessions to a

49:12

later time given that I'm always late to

49:14

them Could we maybe move these to

49:16

a half hour later because I'm consistently arriving

49:18

at 520 so if

49:21

we started at 530 we could avoid

49:23

this problem On

49:25

instead, she's like I have a lot going

49:27

on like just say the news showed up

49:29

and it was a really huge thing Yeah,

49:31

just explain what I'm going on Family

49:34

thing I don't like that. It's like how

49:36

you feel about when people don't answer questions

49:38

in movies They just walk away. That's

49:41

how I feel when people when there's some sort of

49:43

like misunderstanding Yes, unavoidable misunderstanding

49:45

hate that Well,

49:47

yeah, shall we move on to our

49:50

next segment, which is of course how to

49:52

pretend you've seen this film This is

49:54

for yes, you are standing by the water.

49:56

Just trying to look at the nice

49:58

nice view at the lake of a Massachusetts

50:00

lake and miles. Miles, skinny miles on

50:02

a boat full of shoes. The tallest,

50:04

palest, skinniest boy in school. He says,

50:07

I was just coming to dump all

50:09

these shoes in the water, because I'm

50:11

done with them. You say, don't do

50:13

that. So many bad things happening in

50:15

the class, so many bad things to

50:17

our environment. He says, hey, you know

50:19

what? sitting on that rock singing happy

50:22

birthday to yourself really reminded me of

50:24

a film. Of a film I saw.

50:26

I liked all the crassness. I'm going

50:28

to shout at you crassly about it.

50:30

The movie Koda. While I dump one

50:32

shoe at a time. Bet you've never

50:34

even heard of it. It was Oscar

50:37

buzz, but most girls haven't seen it.

50:39

And in order to, in to. Fish

50:41

miles out of the conversation and

50:44

rescue the lake from shoo -dom. Here are

50:46

a few things you can say to pretend

50:48

you've seen the film Koda. Miles,

50:52

I've seen the film Koda

50:54

or as I like to call

50:56

it, Codd. Codd.

51:00

A Codd.

51:02

Codd. I'm

51:08

sorry, this is what I hate Hollywood. Yes,

51:11

Miles, I have seen Koda. Two

51:13

fun facts are the on set interpreters

51:15

were all Kodas that are children

51:18

of deaf adults, which makes sense. I

51:20

think that's really common for interpreters.

51:22

And then also the other fact is

51:24

that Amelia Jones spent nine months

51:26

learning American sign language, having singing lessons,

51:28

and learning how to operate a

51:30

fishing trawler, okay? Wow, so they just

51:33

got like a pretty British girl?

51:35

Why not get someone who knew any

51:37

of the parts? The four things

51:39

that are part of this, fishing, sign

51:41

language, singing, and being American. She

51:43

didn't have any of them. Why is

51:46

it that we do things this

51:48

way? Interesting. She did a good job

51:50

acting wise, but that is interesting.

51:52

I get why she was good. I

51:54

didn't think she was bad. Is

51:56

this how we really go about it?

51:59

Yeah. Miles, I've seen

52:01

Coda, and I'm going to

52:03

tell you now what the

52:05

teacher told her, Ruby, in

52:07

the film during a

52:09

moment of being frustrated.

52:12

I have a whole life that

52:14

has nothing to do with you.

52:16

And I need to get back

52:18

to it, Miles, so please paddle

52:21

away. Wow, this sucks. Yes,

52:23

it sucks, but then it's

52:25

good. And also makes it clear

52:27

maybe why this was such an impactful

52:29

film at the time and I'm being

52:32

nitpicky. But yes, Miles, I

52:34

have seen Cota. When it became

52:36

clear to the financiers that Sean

52:38

Hader intended to cast real deaf

52:40

actors for all the deaf characters,

52:42

the financiers threatened to withdraw

52:44

their funding. What? I guess because

52:46

they thought it wasn't going to

52:48

have enough pull like they wanted

52:50

more. Oh my god, that's so

52:52

wild. So sorry Sean for being

52:54

so rude because I know that

52:57

you did you you cared. Oh

52:59

yeah, but then Marley Matlin then

53:01

said that she would pull out

53:03

if that turned out to be

53:05

the case and they reversed their

53:07

decision. So way to go Marley.

53:10

She has so much power work.

53:12

But like what the hell? That

53:14

is insane. That would be

53:16

horrible. Imagine if it was

53:18

like I don't know Ben Affleck

53:20

playing the dad. Oh God. And

53:23

it would have been Ben

53:25

Affleck as well. That would

53:27

have been so, so sad.

53:29

I mean, it's Boston. Way

53:32

less impactful and offensive that,

53:34

A, they didn't cast anybody,

53:36

and B, they thought that

53:38

any actor could be just

53:41

as good as somebody who

53:43

actually speaks ASL.

53:45

True. Miles, stop it. I've

53:47

seen Coda. And you're being

53:49

as dumb right now as...

53:51

When the dad says, in response

53:54

to the mom saying, our

53:57

baby is moving away, the

53:59

dad says, She was never

54:01

a baby. Which, when you

54:03

think about it for one

54:05

second at all, is

54:07

biologically false. She never

54:09

was a baby. Due to

54:11

the fact that at one

54:13

point she was in fact

54:15

literally a baby. Now

54:17

put the shoe down and get

54:20

out of the lake. Love that.

54:22

I think I was never a

54:24

baby. That would have

54:27

been inappropriate. It is

54:29

really funny imagining you as a

54:31

baby. That is hilarious. Like,

54:33

what was I doing, pissing

54:35

myself? I don't think so. I

54:38

think I was just kind of

54:40

keeping it all together and

54:42

being reserved. Yes, Miles, I

54:44

have seen the film, Kota. Troy

54:46

Kotser, the dad in this, was

54:48

the first deaf male actor to

54:51

win an Oscar for this movie.

54:53

I think he won best supporting

54:55

actor, which he totally deserved. And

54:57

then Marley Matlin, who was the

54:59

mom in this movie, was the

55:01

first deaf female actress to win

55:04

an Oscar for Children of a

55:06

Lesser God, which is, I think,

55:08

what? Oh, yeah, from the 90s. Slay.

55:10

Slay. Siena, should we jump off

55:12

the cliff into our next segment? Let's

55:14

do it. This is, of course, yes.

55:17

Should you watch this or? Or, boat.

55:19

In which we tell you if we think

55:21

you should watch the movie or if you

55:23

should watch the movie or if you should

55:25

do something else with your time with

55:27

your time. I think yes,

55:29

you can watch CODA. I think

55:32

it's important to see stories about

55:34

people with disabilities. A, because like

55:37

giving them an additional view

55:39

is important industry-wise, not that

55:41

they get enough royalties because

55:43

it's on a streaming platform.

55:46

But B, because it's just

55:48

interesting, like it broadens

55:50

the horizons. It was also

55:52

an interesting way to watch a

55:55

movie. Like I watched it differently than

55:57

I would have watched. a movie without

55:59

as subtitles because I literally

56:01

had to watch. Yeah, that's so true.

56:04

Which I often, I often, I'm not,

56:06

I'm often looking away or distracted.

56:09

And so, it's certainly a worthwhile

56:11

watch, but you, if you are a

56:13

former performer from high school, you will

56:15

absolutely have a lot of moments

56:17

that you need to take for

56:20

yourself. What would you say, Sienna? I

56:22

feel exactly the same. I think

56:24

it's actually totally worth a watch,

56:26

even though we were critical. I've

56:29

also been lucky to see probably it... Like

56:31

if you've never seen any content

56:33

with any deaf actors or seen a lot

56:35

of deaf content on TV or anything, I

56:37

mean I think it's totally worth watching

56:39

that, getting into it. Yeah, there's a

56:41

lot that I really liked about the movie, I

56:44

think it's totally worth a watch, and

56:46

as long as you're bracing yourself, the

56:48

only reason we were so weirded out

56:50

was because we were completely blindsided by

56:52

the fact that it was a glee

56:55

movie. So just know that there'll be

56:57

some cringy, whatever stuff. And if you

56:59

weren't a drama kid, I don't think

57:01

it'll bother you as much. I don't think

57:03

so at all. I think so at all.

57:06

I think it'll be fine. Yeah. But besides

57:08

that, it's very sweet and I really

57:10

love the actors in it and it

57:12

makes me want to watch Marley Matlin

57:14

and more stuff. It makes me want

57:16

to watch Troy Cotser and more. So

57:18

yeah, Leon, what would you rate this

57:20

movie? This movie. It's an interesting one.

57:23

I would give CODA four stomped

57:25

fish out of five. For just the

57:27

plot line itself, I would give it like

57:29

a two and a half. Yeah, I think

57:32

that's a good way of putting it completely.

57:34

The plot was so weird. Like for what

57:36

it did as a movie and for Hollywood,

57:39

I think it did move needle

57:41

forward in an important like societal

57:43

way. That's so true. And I

57:45

think a lot of the performances

57:47

were very good and the ending was

57:49

actually... Really good. Yeah, it was just like

57:51

the first part that was so annoying and

57:53

weird and that audition scene was a complete work

57:56

of fiction It would never happen in real life

57:58

and she would never get into the at

58:00

Berkeley School of Music. Totally,

58:02

not with that behavior.

58:04

Totally. Siena, how about you? Yeah,

58:07

I would give CODA, I'm gonna give

58:09

this film 3.5 full ponytails out

58:11

of five, which by the way,

58:13

she had. Oh yeah, wow. Her

58:15

hair was amazing, but yeah, I

58:17

completely agree the ways that it was

58:19

awesome, it was really awesome. All

58:22

the main actors were great, even

58:24

though I had some gripes about

58:26

wishing that, you know, she was actually...

58:28

a coda. She was very

58:30

good for this role and the

58:32

the brother and the the

58:35

parents were just so awesome. There

58:37

was so much that I enjoyed

58:39

about it was very sweet and

58:41

as long as you know it's

58:44

cringe. You know, I may be

58:46

cringe is not the worst thing.

58:48

Exactly. Being cringe is not the

58:50

worst thing ever and super

58:52

sweet. Yeah. And now I've

58:55

seen coda. That was our

58:57

review of it. Thank you,

58:59

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1:00:06

Leonning said, why does she have a

1:00:09

kithulu stuffed animal? Did she see this?

1:00:11

No I did not. I guess because

1:00:13

she's a fisherman's daughter. In the corner

1:00:16

of her room is like a kithulu-ass

1:00:18

squid. And then at the end of

1:00:20

the movie when she's moving to college,

1:00:23

30 minutes away, he brings out kithulu.

1:00:25

Enhance her to her. It

1:00:27

was distracting. It's distracting to put

1:00:29

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