0:00

And if you had Democrats

0:02

defending gang members on your bingo

0:04

card, well, I guess your week

0:06

is off to a great start.

0:08

Just like my father said at

0:11

the State of the Union, whatever

0:13

he does, literally anything he does,

0:15

Democrats will be against it. Literally

0:17

anything. If he cured cancer, he's

0:19

a terrible person. If he creates

0:21

world peace, definitely not getting the

0:24

Nobel Peace Prize. It doesn't matter

0:26

what he does, they will go

0:28

against it. And by the way.

0:30

My father says that Biden's auto

0:32

pen, you know, the auto pen,

0:34

uh, used to fill out the

0:37

pardons and probably everything else that

0:39

Joe Biden did, maybe throw out

0:41

his entire administration, but certainly in

0:43

the last few weeks, are void.

0:46

What do you think that means

0:48

for the likes of shifty shift?

0:50

As many have called him, bullshiff.

0:52

Uh, Cheney. Fauchy. Maybe the Biden's

0:55

themselves. and all the rest. We'll

0:57

get into all of that coming

0:59

up shortly. And then later, I'll

1:01

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1:03

get into a deep dive into

1:05

all things foreign policy from Ukraine

1:07

to Venezuela to the Middle East.

1:10

We'll be covering a lot. So

1:12

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3:09

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3:11

Over the weekend, the Trump

3:13

administration flew hundreds of Trentel

3:15

Aragua gang members to Al

3:17

Salvador as part of my

3:19

father's order to rid our

3:22

country of violent Venezuelan gangs

3:24

and other criminal thugs. These

3:26

are murderers, rapists, narco-terrorists connected

3:28

to the Maduro regime. But

3:30

while the planes were in

3:32

midair over international waters, luckily,

3:34

a far-left activist judge issued

3:36

a temporary restraining order to

3:38

try to stop the flight,

3:40

and beyond the absurd decision,

3:42

this judge somehow believed it

3:44

was possible for the planes

3:46

to simply make a U-turn

3:48

midair, which just as a

3:50

matter of physicality. uh, you

3:52

know, fuel efficiency economy, you

3:55

can't just change flight plans

3:57

like that. It doesn't work

3:59

that way. As a pilot,

4:01

I know. It's completely ridiculous.

4:03

So the planes landed as

4:05

scheduled and the criminals are

4:07

no longer in the country,

4:09

despite the left's dirty tricks

4:11

from left-wing lawfare. I mean,

4:13

think about it. A judge

4:15

is trying to stop us

4:17

from ridding the country. of

4:19

illegal criminal drug traffickers, murderers.

4:21

It's literally what the Democrats,

4:23

they are, they are more

4:25

about defending the worst criminals

4:27

in the world than they

4:30

are Americans. They want them

4:32

in this country. They want

4:34

them destroying our children, our

4:36

cities. They want the drug

4:38

traffic, I assume, to continue.

4:40

Here's my father explaining the

4:42

situation. I can tell you

4:44

this, these were bad people.

4:46

That was a bad group

4:48

of, as I say, dumb

4:50

race. That was a bad

4:52

group. When you look at

4:54

them and you look at

4:56

the crimes that they've committed,

4:58

you take them up. You

5:00

don't get any tougher. You

5:03

don't get worse than that.

5:05

You understand that. Now guys,

5:07

the authority? For my father

5:09

to do this is found

5:11

in the Alien Enemies Act,

5:13

which he invoked over the

5:15

weekend. The order read in

5:17

part, and I quote, Trentel

5:19

Aragua is a designated foreign

5:21

terrorist organization with thousands of

5:23

members. Trentel Aragua operates in

5:25

conjunction with the cartel de

5:27

Los Solis. The Nicholas Maduro

5:29

regime sponsored narco-terrorism enterprise based

5:31

in Venezuela, and commits brutal

5:33

crimes including murders, kidnappings, extortions,

5:35

and human and drug trafficking,

5:38

and also weapons trafficking. It

5:40

goes on to say, Trinola

5:42

Aragua is undertaking hostile action

5:44

and conducting a regular warfare

5:46

against the... territory of the

5:48

United States, both directly and

5:50

at the direction of the

5:52

Maduro regime in Venezuela. That's

5:54

pretty obvious, guys. These are

5:56

not their finest people. These

5:58

are not people that are

6:00

going to be the next

6:02

deal on Musk. They're not

6:04

going to be astronauts or

6:06

surgeons. They're going to be

6:08

responsible for a lot of

6:10

bad things that happen in

6:13

America. And yet, the Democrats

6:15

will go all out to

6:17

defend those people. They're not

6:19

worried about the victims. We

6:21

could list them all, my

6:23

father did, at the State

6:25

of the Union. We could

6:27

get into all of that

6:29

in great detail. They're not

6:31

worried about defending them, their

6:33

rights, their lives. They're looking

6:35

to take care of criminals.

6:37

Remember when my father called

6:39

them animals in the first

6:41

administration in Nancy Pelosi about

6:43

MS-13 at the time? They're

6:46

not animals, Nancy. It's amazing.

6:48

Yet another 80-20 issue, probably

6:50

a 99-1 issue. for Democrats

6:52

and they're going all in

6:54

folks. As Tom Holman revealed

6:56

this weekend, this gang was

6:58

sent here by Maduro and

7:00

welcomed by Biden. What American

7:02

in their right minds wants

7:04

these terrorists here? I mean,

7:06

who in the right mind,

7:08

whether you're a judge or

7:10

not? wants known publics, TVA,

7:12

a recognized terrorist organization, sent

7:14

here by the Maduro regime,

7:16

to create havoc, to settle

7:18

the United States, to use

7:21

the use of fentanyl to

7:23

kill thousands of Americans, violence

7:25

to American citizens. Raping and

7:27

murdering young young women in

7:29

this country. There are enemies

7:31

of this country and President

7:33

Trump treated him as enemies,

7:35

and we did exactly what

7:37

we should have done. Again,

7:39

President Trump is going to

7:41

make this country safe again.

7:43

He's going to do it

7:45

one illegal alien at a

7:47

time, and this weekend, we

7:49

did 261. So to stop

7:51

this invasion and these attacks

7:54

against America, my father invoked

7:56

the Aliens enemies Act to

7:58

get these... out of our

8:00

country and he's within his

8:02

constitutional power to do so.

8:04

And again, I'll ask who

8:06

in their right minds would

8:08

be against any of this.

8:10

Here's more from my dead

8:12

on why this is so

8:14

necessary. Credit system that the

8:16

alien enemy's act was only

8:18

been invoked three other times.

8:20

They were all during times

8:22

more. Do you feel that

8:24

you're using it appropriately right

8:26

now? Well, this is a

8:29

time of war, because Biden

8:31

allowed millions of people, many

8:33

of them criminals, many of

8:35

them at the highest level.

8:37

They emptied jails out other

8:39

nations, emptied their jails into

8:41

the United States. That's an

8:43

invasion. And these are criminals.

8:45

Many, many criminals. Murderers. drug

8:47

dealers at the highest level,

8:49

drug lords, people from mental

8:51

institutions. That's an invasion. They

8:53

invaded our country. So this

8:55

isn't, in that sense, this

8:57

is war. As I said,

8:59

the planes did land as

9:01

scheduled in El Salvador. And

9:04

here is the scene under

9:06

the leadership of friend and

9:08

great president, Bukelli. Check it

9:10

out. Music

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11:48

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11:52

Yeah! Guys,

12:11

that's not all. Earlier today, the

12:13

White House put out this video

12:16

of the criminals being shipped out

12:18

of America. And again, I want

12:20

to thank President Bukhale for taking

12:23

these animals and putting them where

12:25

they belong, and certainly not in

12:27

America. As

12:45

Congressman Collins wrote on X, isn't

12:48

it ridiculous that a Democrat president

12:50

can import violent gang members?

12:52

But some judge claims a Republican

12:55

president can't deport them. In what

12:57

universe would that make sense? And

12:59

he's 100% right. It's very

13:01

clear that Biden knew. We knew

13:04

the statistics. Remember, 13,000 murderers let

13:06

into the country. 16,000 rapists. 600,000

13:09

criminals overall. They knew and they

13:11

let them in anyway. But

13:13

Democrats like Jasmine Crockett seemed to

13:15

have an issue with violent criminal

13:18

gang members and terrorists being removed

13:20

from the country. But you

13:22

don't have to take my word

13:25

for it, guys. Here she is

13:27

in her own words. To deport

13:29

undocumented Venezuelans at the administration say...

13:32

are dangerous individuals with ties

13:34

to the gang, trend, Aragua. That

13:36

gang is obviously associated with a

13:39

lot of crime, human trafficking, drug

13:41

dealing, theft, shooting, including in

13:43

your state of Texas, right outside

13:45

of your congressional district. Do you

13:48

agree with this? And if not,

13:50

what's your issue with the US

13:53

using any tool of its

13:55

disposal to remove undocumented violent... people

13:57

from this country. We already have

13:59

tools that are available to remove

14:02

undocumented violent people from our

14:04

country. And so the idea that

14:06

you want to go into a

14:09

zombie law, this is kind of

14:11

like what we saw in Arizona

14:14

when they decided to revive

14:16

a zombie law around abortion. It

14:18

is the fact that we can't

14:20

trust this administration to actually use

14:23

a scalpel, but instead they

14:25

love to use a butcher knife

14:27

on things. And so giving them

14:30

this wide latitude to just kind

14:32

of go. and just claim that

14:34

anybody is anything is wrong.

14:36

And so we do have courts,

14:39

we do have processes, we do

14:41

have laws, and we should just

14:44

go ahead and use those.

14:46

There's a reason that nobody else

14:48

has decided to go back into

14:50

Adams' times in order to try

14:53

to find ways to make sure

14:55

that we can keep our

14:57

country safe. Remember, guys, Trinidad gang

15:00

members killed Blake and Riley. They

15:02

kill Jossin Nungare, here in America.

15:04

These murders are attacks against

15:06

our homeland. How sick do you

15:09

have to be? To be opposed

15:11

to getting them out of our

15:14

country. What greater, clear, and present

15:16

danger to our country would

15:18

be than having rampant murderers illegally

15:20

doing drugs, selling them, fentanyl, killing

15:23

100,000 Americans a year, murdering and

15:25

raping innocent young girls? These

15:27

are not the people we want

15:30

in our country. And guys, the

15:32

stakes could not be higher. As

15:34

my father also wrote this weekend,

15:37

Trendelaraga has engaged and continues

15:39

to engage in mass illegal migration

15:41

to the United States to further

15:44

its objective of harming United States

15:46

citizens, undermining public safety and

15:48

supporting the Maduro regime's goal of

15:50

destabilizing democratic nations in the Americas,

15:53

including the United States. And he's

15:55

100% right. And now, DHS, DOJ,

15:58

the FBI, and other key

16:00

government agencies are being tasked with

16:02

doing everything in their power to

16:04

bring these terrorists and their enablers

16:07

to justice. It's a historic

16:09

shift from the weak leadership of

16:11

the past, and our country will

16:14

now be safer because of it.

16:16

Biden. and the Democrats let our

16:18

country get it to the

16:20

point where we needed such bold

16:23

action to actually fix their mess.

16:25

It's totally required. And it's looking

16:28

like Biden's auto pen scandal

16:30

may be backfiring on him big

16:32

time. Because earlier today, my father

16:34

wrote on true social, the pardons

16:37

that Sleepy Joe Biden gave to

16:39

the Unselect Committee of Political

16:41

Thugs and many others are hereby

16:44

declared void. vacant and of no

16:46

further force or effect because of

16:48

the fact that they were

16:50

done by auto pen. So if

16:53

Joe Biden didn't sign the pardons

16:55

and didn't know about the signings

16:58

or know what was happening, then

17:00

wouldn't it follow that the

17:02

pardons aren't actually constitutionally valid? And

17:04

remember, as we were told, and

17:07

we told you last week, the

17:09

oversight project did a full

17:11

investigation into the auto pen signatures

17:14

and concluded that all used the

17:16

same auto pen signature except for

17:18

the announcement that the former president

17:21

was dropping out of the

17:23

race last year. You can see

17:25

him for yourself. Again, I'll ask.

17:28

Imagine for one second. The media

17:30

would be calling it the

17:32

biggest scandal in world history. Who

17:35

was actually in charge? We all

17:37

have seen Joe Biden, let's just

17:39

say he wasn't exactly always there.

17:42

We all know, hey, but

17:44

if some random intern is just

17:46

doing this, if he's not really

17:49

aware, or if he was made

17:51

aware, but isn't really capable

17:53

of actually... understanding what's in these

17:55

things, who was running the country?

17:58

How many of these things were

18:00

actually his will? But nevertheless, the

18:03

Trump administration is continuing to

18:05

rack up one win after another.

18:07

For example, the nationwide average for

18:09

gas has declined for four weeks

18:12

straight, with the majority of states

18:14

seeing average prices now below $3

18:17

a gallon. This is what happens

18:19

when you have an administration that

18:21

puts Americans first. And over at

18:24

the VA, Secretary Doug Collins

18:26

announced today that the VA is

18:28

phasing out treatment for gender dysphoria,

18:31

explaining that the money saved, which

18:33

is going to be extensive,

18:35

and shouldn't be going there to

18:37

begin with, from this change we'll

18:40

go towards helping paralyzed veterans and

18:42

amputees. You know, the people that

18:45

actually really need our help,

18:47

really need that care, that we're

18:49

probably not getting serviced well because

18:51

we were worried about gender affirming

18:54

care and hormone replacement treatments

18:56

and some of the appendages that

18:58

maybe not really required for life,

19:01

maybe fun, but for trans members.

19:03

Remember those, remember those. Well now.

19:05

they're going to go to

19:07

those who need it. Remember, guys,

19:10

we broke the story on this

19:12

show about the gender affirming prosthetics

19:15

program. It's hard to believe

19:17

we're having this conversation and it's

19:19

real, right? It's like, it's like

19:21

South Park took over the world

19:24

under the Biden administration and just

19:26

had their way with it.

19:28

We broke the story gender affirming

19:31

prosthetics, okay? I guess that's a

19:33

strap on. I don't know. It's

19:35

not really my thing. So

19:37

I don't know. But I'm assuming

19:40

that's what it is. But they

19:42

had that program under Biden and

19:45

how they were putting woke trans

19:47

madness over actually getting our

19:49

veterans the care that they need.

19:51

So massive credit to the leadership.

19:54

of Secretary Doug Collins over at

19:56

the VA on getting this

19:58

done. Common sense wins again. None

20:01

of this happens though, guys, without

20:03

strong leadership that actually cares about

20:05

its citizens. Look what's happening across

20:08

Western Europe, where leaders are

20:10

letting their countries crumble under open

20:12

boarders' madness, mass censorship. In fact,

20:15

Connor McGregor, the notorious MMA, was

20:17

at the White House today.

20:19

to explain the dire situation going

20:21

on over in Ireland. Check it

20:24

out. What is going on in

20:26

Ireland is a travesty. Our government

20:29

is the government of zero

20:31

action with zero accountability. Our money

20:33

is being spent on overseas issues

20:35

that is nothing to do with

20:38

the Irish people. The illegal

20:40

immigration racket is running ravage on

20:42

the country. There are rural towns

20:45

in Ireland that have been overrun

20:47

in one swoop. got to become

20:49

a minority in one swoop.

20:51

So issues need to be addressed.

20:54

And the 40 million Irish Americans,

20:56

as I said, need to hear

20:59

this. Because if not, there will

21:01

be no place to come home

21:04

and visit. So with that said,

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guys joining me now businessman author former

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Navy SEAL officer Blackwater founder and now

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the co-founder of Unplugged the one and

23:29

only Eric Prince Eric good to have

23:32

you back nice to be here. Thank

23:34

you. It was last time I think

23:36

you were on we were you were

23:39

literally in like the Abu Dhabi airport

23:41

like getting yelled at to get on

23:43

a flight. We had a late start

23:45

so it's good to have you actually

23:48

in studio right now, but you know

23:50

maybe to begin because you have sort

23:52

of such an intimate knowledge of so

23:54

much of what's going on around the

23:57

world just you know having done that

23:59

in Iraq and everywhere else with Blackwater

24:01

I mean you probably have a better

24:03

insight than just about anyone as to

24:06

what's going on in the world right

24:08

now as we deal with Russia, Ukraine,

24:10

you know, all of that insanity. Love

24:12

to get your thoughts on that in

24:15

particular because I think my mindset has

24:17

been it's hard to get a deal

24:19

done in Ukraine because the American public

24:21

have been told that Ukraine is winning

24:24

and you know if they shoot a

24:26

Russian jeep it's a major victory and

24:28

if Russia takes you know the dumbass

24:31

it's like that was a strategic withdrawal.

24:33

How do you combat that marketing effort,

24:35

you know, and get the American people

24:37

to understand that what they're being told

24:40

is not the case? So any deal

24:42

that we come up with is probably

24:44

a lot better than they'll be told.

24:46

It is a pointless waste of Ukrainian

24:49

blood and American treasure that they are

24:51

not going to retake any of those

24:53

lands. This much wanted offensive that they

24:55

tried to do last summer was a

24:58

complete wipeout. They don't have even enough

25:00

manpower. to hardly man their defenses now.

25:02

So at best, it's a retrograde action,

25:04

and the sooner the fighting can be

25:07

brought to an end, the better. The

25:09

better for Ukraine, the better for its

25:11

future survival, the better for Western Europe,

25:13

and actually the better for Russia. And

25:16

most of all, better for the United

25:18

States, because for a hundred plus years,

25:20

it's always been the policy of the

25:23

United States to try to keep German

25:25

industry from combining with Russian resources. Now

25:27

all we've done. is what the Biden

25:29

administration did is push Russian resources into

25:32

a subservient role of the Chinese Communist

25:34

Party. Not our friends. China and Russia

25:36

are no longer on a level playing

25:38

field, right? I mean, China's definitely, or

25:41

you know, taking that leadership role. that

25:43

used to be a fairly solid buffer.

25:45

You know, the two powers sort of

25:47

canceled each other out a little bit.

25:50

I talked to a head of state

25:52

that had been at every BRICS meeting,

25:54

and every time from the beginning it

25:56

was always an equal footing between Putin

25:59

and Xi. At the last one in

26:01

October, clearly there was a defined difference,

26:03

and that is definitely not. in American

26:05

interest. So don't listen to the lie

26:08

of just a little bit more time

26:10

and, you know, Putin is on his

26:12

back foot. Putin, if it continues, will

26:15

do a general mobilization and flood the

26:17

zone with another 350,000 fighters. And the

26:19

Russian people have a very high tolerance

26:21

for taking casualties. There's a lot of

26:24

history to that. 27 million people that

26:26

they lost in World War II. I

26:28

think it's important even for perspective of

26:30

America. You know, we believe our movies

26:33

that Americans won, we defeated the Nazis.

26:35

Not to take away any of the

26:37

service of U.S. fighting men, we lost

26:39

250,000 people in the European theater of

26:42

operations. The Russians lost 27 million people

26:44

fighting the Nazis. While we were still

26:46

messing around in North Africa, you know,

26:48

in Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, the Russians raced

26:51

1.2 million from the German order of

26:53

battle. So just, and they lost a

26:55

million two just at the Battle of

26:57

Stalingrad, so just orders of magnitude difference

27:00

in the level of suffering that they

27:02

will take, and it is absolutely no

27:04

point in continuing that level of slaughter

27:06

in Ukraine. Yeah, I mean, at this

27:09

point that even that mentality has to

27:11

be ingrained, right? You don't just forget

27:13

that. I mean, it's strangely enough, it's

27:16

not that far off. I mean, this

27:18

is 70 years ago. Correct. And it's

27:20

not even about high-tech weapons. They have

27:22

a supply chain of their own industrial

27:25

base. that's been supplemented by China and

27:27

even now by North Korea for the

27:29

propellants for the the more munitions and

27:31

of course they bought a lot from

27:34

the Iranians it's actually made the Iranian

27:36

weapons technology better because it's gotten field

27:38

tested innovative and all those people getting

27:40

smarter and better at fighting is not

27:43

in America's interest if you shot at

27:45

the Russians three months after that war

27:47

started it would take them an hour

27:49

hour and a half to shoot back

27:52

well at you with artillery now is

27:54

two or three minutes. So if you

27:56

shoot, you better be in your vehicle

27:58

more. motor running, doors open to unass

28:01

that area or incoming is on the

28:03

way. Interesting. Now, you know, when you

28:05

talk about that right now, I mean,

28:08

it feels like Putin probably in my

28:10

mind didn't go as hard as

28:12

he probably could have, and I think

28:14

there's a component of that, you know,

28:16

certainly the eastern part of Ukraine that

28:18

definitely did not vote for Zolinsky and

28:21

probably would not ever again, that whole

28:23

quadrant of the country or half of

28:25

the country is really ethnicic Russian. Do

28:27

you think he actually held back a

28:29

little bit because of those similarities? I

28:31

mean, it doesn't feel like he went

28:34

as scorched earth as he could have

28:36

as quickly as he could have. Certainly

28:38

did not bomb the power and water

28:40

and the civilian infrastructure nearly as hard

28:42

as he could have. Yes, there's a

28:44

lot of it that's been damaged, but no,

28:46

it was not at the level of the

28:49

allies going after Dresden when we erased 100,000

28:51

Germans in a night with fire bombing,

28:53

literally targeting civilians in World

28:55

War II. So how do you

28:57

get this to come to a head

28:59

right now? Because it does feel like

29:02

the world is looking at this

29:04

conflict very different than some of

29:06

the other conflicts that are going

29:08

on right now. You know, to

29:11

me, if I'm looking at it

29:13

fairly objectively, it's like, ah, we

29:16

can just keep fighting forever

29:18

because it's just, honestly,

29:20

European white men dying

29:22

on either side of the battlefield.

29:24

Is that a thing? the Kerfuffle

29:27

in the Oval Office a few days ago, all the

29:29

statements of support from the European allies

29:31

is so, it's such air. I mean,

29:33

Luxembourg, we support Ukraine with their 800-man

29:35

army and two unarmed helicopters, right? So,

29:38

well, beyond that, they also said, they

29:40

really support the ongoing efforts in Ukraine,

29:42

but if you ask those same people,

29:44

were they willing to sacrifice almost anything,

29:46

meaning pay for some of it themselves,

29:48

they're like, oh, that's different. It's like,

29:50

you know, I want to solve, world

29:52

hunger, but I'm not gonna sacrifice a

29:55

meal. myself so it does feel like

29:57

a lot of virtue signaling.

29:59

Yes that. NATO is largely 30%

30:01

virtue signaling by the NATO so-called allies.

30:03

70% of the ass of NATO is

30:05

American, paid for by American taxpayers, provided

30:08

by American fighting men and women. So

30:10

it is some kind of different action

30:12

as necessary as a catalyst to bring

30:14

this to an end. I don't think

30:16

the Russians have the appetite to invade.

30:19

They were very clear. not Ukraine, not

30:21

Ukraine, not Ukraine, and the neocons kept

30:23

pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing, this idea that

30:25

Ukraine is going to be part of

30:27

NATO? Hard no. Yeah, we gave them

30:30

every excuse they needed. That's not being

30:32

a Putin apologist, that's just being realistic.

30:34

They had a... Correct. 60, 70-year stalemate,

30:36

a buffer zone that was known as

30:39

the Ukraine, and we moved the borders

30:41

of NATO, right up onto their border,

30:43

and that was always the red line.

30:45

And so if you think about Russia

30:47

as a society as a Soviet Union...

30:50

facing as many unfriendly nations with troops

30:52

on its borders as they did in

30:54

May of 1941 when the Nazis invaded.

30:56

That is again pressed into their genetics.

30:58

And so they're not going to let

31:01

that happen again and not be in

31:03

that situation. I mean literally in Russia

31:05

the railway the railway gauge is different

31:07

so that from the rest of Europe.

31:10

So if you take railcars across Western

31:12

Europe you have to jack it up

31:14

and literally change the wheels. to carry

31:16

on into Russia so that an invading

31:18

force can't use railway, their own railway,

31:21

inside of Russia. So they've been thinking

31:23

about this for quite some time? Yeah,

31:25

that when you lose 25 million people

31:27

or 27 million people, it tends to

31:29

stick with you. And if it wasn't

31:32

for Putin, if Putin, you know, retired

31:34

tomorrow, that ethos still remains in Russia,

31:36

right? The next guy is going to

31:38

be... Be careful that you don't get

31:40

an even worse Russian nationalist. Because there

31:43

is a segment of that society that

31:45

he has to actually placate. So to

31:47

try to bring this to a close.

31:49

I think one of the things that

31:52

the Russians offered was a basically a

31:54

10-year hiatus of these, call it the

31:56

Danetsk, Lohansk, Maripol, and I can't think

31:58

of the fourth one. Obviously they have

32:00

Crimea and they've always had Crimea as

32:03

Russian. To have a 10-year pause and

32:05

then have a vote, a plebiscite at

32:07

the end of that, whether those countries,

32:09

those regions want to stay with Russia

32:11

or go back to Ukraine. I think

32:14

that's a sound reasonable approach. It's let

32:16

it be a competition of governance, let

32:18

Kiev clean up the massive corruption and

32:20

in the cleptocracy that is there and

32:23

compete for people's will to be governed.

32:25

I mean, it's sort of ironic that

32:27

the people screaming about preserving democracy, if

32:29

that's the case, I'm not even aware

32:31

of it. Like, you know, no one's

32:34

talking about, like, hey, Russia wants to

32:36

actually allow elections, and I imagine, elections

32:38

in Ukraine or Russia were probably never

32:40

on the up and up, but there

32:42

could be a structure to make it

32:45

so. So Russia actually wants to say,

32:47

hey, let's compete for this in a

32:49

fair way politically, and in 10 years

32:51

you have election. Meanwhile, Salinski's and Punsi,

32:54

we can't possibly have elections right now.

32:56

We can't do it. And I understand

32:58

that the Russians would provide a ceasefire

33:00

to enable an actual election to happen

33:02

in Ukraine, because I also think that

33:05

Putin does not view Zelenski as a

33:07

valid. leader anymore because he's outstate his

33:09

mandate by what 10 months now and

33:11

so for Putin to have a counterparty

33:13

to negotiate with somebody that has to

33:16

bind right just like the CEO of

33:18

a company has to be able to

33:20

bind a company for whatever contract is

33:22

going to sign the same for the

33:24

the head of state so yeah and

33:27

if there's an election held very unlikely

33:29

that that Zelenski is reelected it'll be

33:31

I've read you know again up to

33:33

about 16% popularity Yeah, and again, most

33:36

of that, any of the popular... is

33:38

coming clearly from the western part of

33:40

the country. So the irony of it

33:42

is that his greatest chance at actual

33:44

political survival would be ceding the eastern

33:47

part of the country. That is, you

33:49

know, ethnic Russian and definitely not in

33:51

favor of him. And never was, even

33:53

before the war. I mean, they voted

33:55

for different people. It'll be Ziluzhine, who

33:58

is the minister of defense or the

34:00

chief of the chief of the army

34:02

or Bodonov, the head of military intelligence

34:04

or the boxerr. Yes, so I guess

34:07

Mayor of Kiev, right? Yeah, exactly. I

34:09

would say a more of a pro-piece,

34:11

less corruption candidate. It'd be nice. I

34:13

think that's the part. How much of

34:15

this money, you know, we're in for,

34:18

you know, my father said during the

34:20

State of the Union, you know, $350

34:22

billion, and that probably doesn't include the

34:24

$260 billion that the Pentagon can't account

34:26

for. So I imagine there's a good

34:29

part of that in that. So let's

34:31

just call it half a trillion dollars.

34:33

How much of that's been stolen? You

34:35

understand how these battle fields work? You've

34:37

done more of it than anyone. The

34:40

amount of graft in these purchases is

34:42

significant. And it's, I mean, I have

34:44

a lot of friends that offered products

34:46

at a affordable, very bid price, and

34:49

we're all rejected because there's always some

34:51

expectation of a vague coming through a

34:53

very convoluted acquisition structure. Do you think

34:55

a lot of these arms that we've

34:57

sent over there also have been sold

35:00

to other? I've read that they've been

35:02

sold to Hamas and other things and

35:04

so they're taking arms selling them to

35:06

terrorists and... There's always leakage of that

35:08

kind of stuff in the battlefield. You

35:11

know, I'm sure sets of... because we

35:13

can buy sets of almost anything the

35:15

Russians field and corruption goes both ways.

35:17

I'm sure the very best of whatever

35:20

has been provided to Ukraine has made

35:22

its way to our opponents. Literally being

35:24

evaluated and replicated in Russian and Chinese.

35:26

Armaments factories 100 %

35:28

the frightening thing

35:31

is that our stuff

35:33

doesn't work very

35:35

well there now. Why

35:37

is that? the

35:39

Russians are very good

35:42

at electronic warfare

35:44

and when whether you're

35:46

sending a Anti -tank

35:48

missile a ballistic

35:51

missile a guided artillery

35:53

shell Within a

35:55

couple of months they

35:57

figure out how

35:59

to jam the command

36:02

link or the

36:04

navigation signal so that

36:06

instead of hitting

36:08

precisely It's hitting off

36:10

Taking away the

36:13

whole point of it

36:15

being and so

36:17

you have a hundred

36:19

thousand dollar copperhead

36:21

guided one five five

36:24

shell And now

36:26

it's hitting a hundred

36:28

or 200 meters

36:30

off It's it's so

36:33

it's that's bad and

36:36

I We

36:38

dilute ourselves in thinking that we're

36:40

making the Russians weaker right the the

36:42

neocon wing Oh, no, we're degrading

36:44

the Russian army the sanctions raise the

36:46

price of oil the price of

36:48

oil goes through the roofs I mean,

36:51

they're not neutral on this war,

36:53

but they've also built up their manufacturing

36:55

base. They've Become much closer with

36:57

Saudi. They've become much closer with China

36:59

and they were actually powered them

37:01

they shortened the flash to bang synapse

37:03

of idea development

37:05

testing Revisit

37:07

of loitering munitions all the rest

37:09

and the really frightening thing right

37:12

today like the first Strategic offset

37:14

of the US military after World

37:16

War two was nuclear weapons, right?

37:18

We had them then the Soviets

37:20

got them and then it became

37:22

a big tonnage competition and then

37:24

it became precision strike You know

37:26

the early version of Gulf War

37:28

one, you know With with a

37:30

precision bomb now, literally Everyone has

37:32

that ability to deliver precision with

37:34

a small drone with a with

37:36

a beer can size charge on

37:38

it You can clack somebody off

37:40

15 kilometers away. So that democratization

37:42

of precision strike is accelerating the

37:44

battlefield and The lethality in a

37:46

way that is frightening that makes

37:48

hundreds of billions of dollars of

37:50

our own stuff Kind of obsolete

37:52

and kind of just expensive targets.

37:54

Yeah, I mean did are we

37:56

advancing in that same technology? I

37:58

mean you see it. I see

38:00

the videos on now unrollable. You

38:02

know the drone comes in. They

38:04

see a guy he takes shelter

38:06

or goes through the window, drops the bomb, everyone does, you know,

38:08

it's a $300 drone that we'd be using hundreds of thousands of

38:11

dollars of missiles to otherwise take out. I mean, it doesn't seem,

38:13

it seems very asymmetric that a, not all that sophisticated party, then

38:15

once you get into the jamming technology that changes, but

38:17

a not very sophisticated party now can

38:19

fight way above their way class that

38:21

would have been able to take on

38:23

any conventional forces. from a few years

38:25

ago. Yes. And a disproportionate matter.

38:27

It's, I've said it before, it's

38:29

like Jingus Khan putting stirrups on

38:31

horses, right? So now instead of

38:34

just riding a horse, you can fight

38:36

from it. That speed that can come

38:38

from that level of delivery or

38:40

precision. You're even seeing it against

38:42

the Navy with the Iranians

38:45

providing drones, ballistic missiles, cruise

38:47

missiles to the Huttis, and they've

38:49

been shooting. 20 to 50 thousand dollar drones

38:51

at our ships who then shoot it down

38:53

with a, not one, but two, one million

38:55

dollar missiles because they have to double tap

38:58

it to make sure it gets knocked. The

39:00

Navy says that they've lost or they've

39:02

expended a billion dollars worth of

39:04

missiles shooting down all this incoming.

39:06

The real number is more like five billion

39:08

because they're counting the billion dollars

39:10

at the 1990s cost that they bought it.

39:13

Kind of your original inventory carrying carrying

39:15

that. Now you got to replace it

39:17

at five times that price. So it's.

39:19

The Pentagon needs massive revision and

39:21

a hyper enhancing of competition. Really

39:23

the big five defense contractors behave

39:26

like a cartel. We should probably break

39:28

them up. Almost like an antitrust rule.

39:30

Yeah, it was always where I see

39:32

some of these bids or whatever. We're

39:34

going to get a new fighter, Judge.

39:36

So Lockheed and Boeing team up to

39:38

together to do it because there's no

39:40

one else that can actually do it.

39:42

And therefore, monopoly pricing. There's no competition.

39:44

There's no cost controls. There's nothing. And

39:46

we just sort of accept it. And

39:48

you compare that to what Musk has

39:50

done with SpaceX, because he said, look,

39:52

we're going to lower the cost of

39:54

lift by a thousand fold. And he's

39:56

done it. Yeah. So competition and

39:59

innovation. There's lots of

40:01

great new defense tech startups. And

40:03

I wish them well, but I

40:05

fear they're going to run smack

40:07

into a very cumbersome, unreformed Pentagon.

40:09

I wish Pete Heggsath all the

40:11

best in wrenching defense reform, but

40:13

Congress has to do that as

40:16

well to buy from the small

40:18

start, the small fast innovative people

40:20

instead of the easy button to

40:22

the buying from the bloated cartel.

40:24

Yeah, I mean it does seem

40:26

like there's a bunch of independent

40:28

guys that are starting up and

40:30

doing it and eventually you get

40:32

there But you you do have

40:34

to break through that sort of

40:36

monopoly of leadership because it feels

40:39

like every general ends up on

40:41

the board of Raytheon or Boeing

40:43

or and that's their offering and

40:45

that's their offering or and that's

40:47

their offering So they know that's

40:49

their offering so they know that's

40:51

their offering the only way to

40:53

keep that job or to keep

40:55

selling missiles and keep buying from

40:57

those guys because that's going to

41:00

be the more lucrative the Air

41:02

Force One renegotiation one. It's two

41:04

747s, but they're like, it's six

41:06

billion dollars. He's like, gotta have

41:08

it three in front of it.

41:10

He's like, okay. They're like, wait,

41:12

what do you mean? You just,

41:14

you just took off two billion

41:16

dollars? It's like, well, you know,

41:18

we got room to play. And

41:21

it's like, well, why did you

41:23

do it now? Well, if we

41:25

do this, maybe you want to

41:27

ask us about all the other

41:29

things that we're doing. But it.

41:31

And I understand they have nice

41:33

communication systems on them, etc. But

41:35

like, they don't have 3 billion

41:37

of communications. What do they sell

41:39

us 747 to Lufthantsa for? Yeah,

41:42

like, 300 million? Yeah, exactly. You

41:44

know, like, you know, so yeah,

41:46

fine. Soup it up, you know,

41:48

put straight pipes on it, you

41:50

know, little turbocharge it, some extra

41:52

communications, but like, 4 billion worth,

41:54

like, and when you're spending your

41:56

own money, it's a very different

41:58

buy cycle. And so that's the

42:00

divorce of people that have to

42:02

live with the consequences versus the

42:05

spending of it is horrific and

42:07

that's why government overspends on everything.

42:09

Well, I mean, you obviously did

42:11

this with Blackwater, you guys were

42:13

able to do things better, cheaper,

42:15

faster. and without sort of the

42:17

cost, and perhaps there are obviously

42:19

lives at stake, but it feels

42:21

like there's an optic and political

42:23

expense to an American army soldier

42:26

as opposed to a contractor, right?

42:28

I mean, it's just marketing, it's

42:30

the same life, but you were

42:32

able to do that better and

42:34

cheaper than the government itself. So

42:36

my family's background was manufacturing, and

42:38

mostly in the automotive industry, was

42:40

probably one of the most competitive

42:42

industries in the world in terms

42:44

of volume of stuff made. and

42:47

how many competitors you have constantly

42:49

undercutting you. And so I got

42:51

out of the Navy and I

42:53

took over the diecast machine business,

42:55

my dad started, and took it

42:57

through a lean transformation kind of

42:59

based on the Toyota production system.

43:01

And I got to thinking, what

43:03

does the military do? It recruits,

43:05

vets, equips, trains, deploys, and supports

43:07

people to do a thing somewhere.

43:10

And so laying out Blackwater as

43:12

a vertically integrated entity to do

43:14

that process really let us focus

43:16

on cutting costs at every one

43:18

of those stages. and that's why

43:20

we could do those things cheaper

43:22

better faster because we knew what

43:24

it costs to do the training

43:26

to do the vaccination before deployment

43:28

or or supplying them whatever that

43:31

was we knew our costs government

43:33

doesn't know their cost and so

43:35

we could literally do things for

43:37

between one-six to one-quarter of what

43:39

government would do it's wild I

43:41

guess I got asked because I'm

43:43

sort of fascinated about when you

43:45

were talking about sort of the

43:47

advance and warfare you know what

43:49

the Russians have learned to do

43:52

in the in the last three

43:54

years We were in war, you

43:56

know, felt like almost permanent war,

43:58

at least a solid chunk of

44:00

my life, you know, in Afghanistan,

44:02

Iraq, 20 plus years. Did we

44:04

learn as much during that period

44:06

of time as these guys have

44:08

learned in three years, and if

44:10

not, why? We learned a lot

44:13

of wrong habits, because you had

44:15

a lot of people that were

44:17

managing conflict instead of out to

44:19

just fix it and to solve

44:21

it. You know, instead of driving

44:23

towards a moment of absolute surrender,

44:25

If you think about how the

44:27

Taliban were hunted the first six

44:29

months after 9-11 when you had

44:31

a few hundred soft and agency

44:33

officers with air power and their

44:36

targeting cycle, there's guys on the

44:38

hill, we're going now, minutes, not

44:40

hours. And then six months into

44:42

it, when Baghram became a big

44:44

normal base, when the beards had

44:46

to go away and starch khakis,

44:48

when the convention military came, then

44:50

it became a very conventional planning

44:52

cycle of days, weeks, to go

44:54

target the enemy. And so it

44:57

was just a 19-year repeat of

44:59

that nonsense that we learned all

45:01

the wrong habits and promoted all

45:03

the wrong people. Because all the

45:05

commanders, right? I think of like,

45:07

you know, General Millie and I

45:09

see him there with his badges

45:11

upon, I mean, you know, you

45:13

know, North Korean level badges. Yeah.

45:15

Eisenhower had like one, you know,

45:18

in one World War II. Uh,

45:20

you know, this guy's got, it

45:22

is, it's like, it was like

45:24

North Korea propaganda, and I'm like,

45:26

I don't know that you've won

45:28

anything. Why are you here? Why

45:30

don't you have those accolades? And

45:32

that's my, and that's, you've perpetuated

45:34

death. But we went through 19

45:36

rotations of commanders in that duration,

45:38

and all of them were promoted,

45:41

all of them fully retired, no

45:43

one called to account to say,

45:45

you were given almost unlimited funds.

45:47

significant casualties and what do you

45:49

have to show for it and

45:51

that's unacceptable. So returning a culture

45:53

of accountability, I am all in

45:55

favor of Pete Exeth, bringing accountability

45:57

and cleaning house, and if we

45:59

don't do it, then we are

46:02

truly not ready to fight the

46:04

next war. Listen, I couldn't agree

46:06

with you more and I hope

46:08

they get it done, but it's

46:10

going to be no small feat

46:12

because that is... that is entrenched

46:14

as bureaucracy and any other administration,

46:16

you know, any other agency in

46:18

DC and maybe worse. It's not,

46:20

it's not a few dozen officers

46:23

here and there, it's hundreds and

46:25

hundreds of flag officers, colonels, staff

46:27

officers, and tens of thousands of

46:29

DOD civilians. all need to go.

46:31

Well, it gives me hope that

46:33

the January recruitment numbers into the

46:35

Army were the highest in modern

46:37

history after coming out of the

46:39

Biden administration, where even the last

46:41

few months of that were the

46:44

lowest in history. So it gives

46:46

me hope that young patriots believe

46:48

that we can fix this, but

46:50

we're going to actually have to

46:52

fix it. We can't just. People

46:54

respond to leadership. Yeah, hard to

46:56

believe. Clear, rudder orders. So speaking

46:58

of leadership. I'd love to kind

47:00

of get your... 30,000 foot view

47:02

of where we are as a

47:04

country now. What's changed in the

47:07

few weeks since my father took

47:09

over? During the state of the

47:11

union, he talked a lot about

47:13

sort of a common sense revolution.

47:15

Maybe I've called him sort of

47:17

the 80-20 president, which is he's

47:19

like really good at latching on

47:21

to like an 80% issue. Maybe

47:23

some of those issues now based

47:25

on what I saw again at

47:28

the state of the union with

47:30

like 90-10, 95-5 issues. The Trump

47:32

arrangement syndrome, like, we gotta take

47:34

the five, and we gotta defend

47:36

the indefensible at all costs, and

47:38

they're losing. Because we think it's

47:40

great that men beat up little

47:42

girls in girl sports. Yeah, no,

47:44

watching that. How are they dying

47:46

that hill? They're outraged that that

47:49

happens. During the state of the

47:51

union, they can't stand up and

47:53

clap. for a kid who survived

47:55

cancer. Another kid who found out

47:57

that he got into West Point

47:59

and was there because his father

48:01

was killed in the line of

48:03

duty as an officer of law.

48:05

You know, they can't even clap

48:07

for that. You know, it's wild.

48:09

I mean, you know, when I

48:12

started saying they hate America, I

48:14

actually believed it, but like you

48:16

didn't necessarily have the hard evidence.

48:18

Just watching them sit and not

48:20

even clap for some of the

48:22

most basic and decent things that

48:24

America has to offer was both

48:26

scary and eye-opening. The most successful

48:28

political party of the 20th century

48:30

in America is the Socialist Workers'

48:33

Party. I think their party platform

48:35

of 1924 has been fully adopted

48:37

into law. and is largely the

48:39

policy of the Democrat party today.

48:41

Big government, remember we're not, a

48:43

socialist is just a slightly milder

48:45

communist. And so that idea of

48:47

fundamentally transforming America that Obama wanted

48:49

to do, they want to go

48:51

much, much, much farther. I think,

48:54

to me, one of the measurable

48:56

differences, and I've said that three

48:58

years ago, long before this campaign,

49:00

a successful Trump presidency. would be

49:02

a reduction of real estate The

49:04

five highest per capita wealth counties

49:06

in America, Surin Washington, do you

49:08

see that is an exceedingly unhealthy

49:10

sign and bringing that back to

49:12

normal is absolutely essential. The cessation

49:14

of funding USAID or the pause

49:17

and I think you'll find it

49:19

is such a massive grift. Yeah,

49:21

because talk about the depth of

49:23

that because again, people, you know,

49:25

I've gone through the list on

49:27

the shows, you know, 10,000 or

49:29

10 million dollars for. Mail circumcision

49:31

in Mozambique, you know, $5 million

49:33

for trans Elmo in Guatemala. And

49:35

so let me tell you what.

49:38

Trans education in places that they

49:40

wouldn't need, you know, I hear

49:42

about trans education in like sub-Saharan

49:44

African countries, and I've literally been

49:46

there, you know, I was a

49:48

hunter, I've spent time there, and

49:50

like, hey, I'll go to the,

49:52

you know, some of the guys

49:54

and the trackers, and we're having

49:56

a great time and talking, and

49:59

I'll even talk about the concept

50:01

of it, and talking about the

50:03

concept of it. What are you

50:05

talking about? This can't be real,

50:07

and yet we're funding programs to

50:09

aid these things that I imagine

50:11

no one's even heard of there,

50:13

let alone... or actively combating. And

50:15

why? Because so there's a ridiculous

50:17

programs and there's even programs like

50:20

drilling wells for water. It's a

50:22

logical morally defensible thing. The problem

50:24

is the NGOs, the overhead that

50:26

these folks load. So if it's

50:28

a $10 million contract to do

50:30

something. 70 to 80% of that

50:32

gets burned up and overhead. So

50:34

I think you'll find there's an

50:36

enormous amount of that money gets

50:38

recycled back into DC politics and

50:40

that's all Democrat back into DC

50:43

politicians 100% I mean it has

50:45

to be right I mean it

50:47

sort of reminds me like it

50:49

is a massive drying up of

50:51

a reservoir of Democrat funding that

50:53

has been washed through the unhealthy

50:55

halls of the USAID. It sort

50:57

of reminds me like back in

50:59

the day when I was, you

51:01

know, formerly a New Yorker and

51:04

you'd go to some of these,

51:06

you know, like rubber chicken charity

51:08

dinners and they're throwing a wonderful

51:10

party for themselves. And at the

51:12

end of the night, they did

51:14

a great work. They raised $3

51:16

million for whatever cause. The problem

51:18

is the party cost $3.2 million

51:20

for themselves. Yeah. And it was

51:22

like, no, I never talked about

51:25

that. There was never an accountability

51:27

of the expense side of things.

51:29

a tiny fraction of the numbers

51:31

that were raised. And when you

51:33

look at the actual charity auditing

51:35

firms, right, they don't really view

51:37

an overhead load of much 10

51:39

or 15% as being acceptable. These

51:41

USAID contractors were high 50, 60,

51:43

70. Clinton Foundation, right? We'll spend

51:45

$5 billion on this and we'll

51:48

build exactly zero homes in Haiti.

51:50

And fund the Clinton lifestyle and

51:52

travel budget. Yeah. So it is.

51:54

I'm so glad they did that

51:56

to USAID first, and there's so

51:58

many more across so many organizations

52:00

to just dry it up. The

52:02

education bureaucracy, which our education standards

52:04

have continued to plummet since Carter

52:06

made a Department of Education. And

52:09

again, that funds so many awful

52:11

left-wing causes, which actually undermine education

52:13

in the labor space. Here's my

52:15

wish for housing. What we should

52:17

do is go to everyone that's

52:19

occupying every unit of public housing

52:21

and issue them a title to

52:23

say. Just give it to them.

52:25

This is yours. Okay? And it's

52:27

yours. It's tax-free for the next

52:30

five years, but it's yours. Form

52:32

your own homeowners association. It would

52:34

be the ultimate empowering thing to

52:36

give those people ownership. Not a

52:38

mortgage, but a title that they

52:40

can sell if they want to

52:42

move or if they want to

52:44

borrow it to start a business

52:46

But America should get out of

52:48

the housing business and give the

52:51

housing to the people that are

52:53

in it now and be done

52:55

What do you think I mean?

52:57

I actually like the idea I

52:59

know if that happened to me

53:01

I'd probably try to you know

53:03

in Take care of my place

53:05

invest it wisely I imagine the

53:07

vast majority of people would what

53:09

do with the people who I'm

53:11

selling it right now. I'm going

53:14

to Vegas putting it all on

53:16

black and they can do that

53:18

And they can live with choice.

53:20

They can live with consequences. But

53:22

we have to have a soft

53:24

side. You know, are we at

53:26

the stage yet? Where it's like,

53:28

okay, you made a bad decision.

53:30

You're on your own now that

53:32

you don't end up picking up

53:35

that that slack later. You know,

53:37

I get it. You're not wrong.

53:39

But it feels like we've created

53:41

incentive structures for people where the

53:43

worst actors always get the bailout.

53:45

And that goes true for banking.

53:47

You know, that's not, you know,

53:49

a demographic demographic thing. That sort

53:51

of, fair. fair, but okay, you

53:53

can start to give people opt-out

53:56

ability to own their homes and

53:58

live with the consequences. I think

54:00

that if we want a free

54:02

and prosperous society, we need to

54:04

encourage growth because I don't think

54:06

anybody sets out that wants their

54:08

kid to become a ward of

54:10

the state. I mean, nobody really

54:12

wants to, people want to breathe

54:14

free. It's an inherent human desire

54:16

and for us to continue that

54:19

is wrong. and it is wrong

54:21

for government to subsidize that. Yeah.

54:23

You know, so skipping tracks a

54:25

little bit. I know you're really

54:27

passionate about what's going on in

54:29

Venezuela right now. I had the

54:31

leader of the opposition on here

54:33

a few weeks. She's an incredible,

54:35

you know, obviously, you know, canceling

54:37

the Chevron contracts over there, the

54:40

administration's holding them accountable. 30-day transition.

54:42

Fantastic. Correct. What do you think

54:44

happens down there? You know, that

54:46

literally, by the way, we got

54:48

the news of the Chevron license

54:50

cancellation, like while I was interviewing.

54:52

you know, Machado, like it was

54:54

sort of amazing. So like, hey,

54:56

by the way, this just happened.

54:58

What do you think happens there?

55:01

Because it does seem like if

55:03

someone can win an election by,

55:05

you know, 90 points and still

55:07

not be able to, is that

55:09

beyond the point of, you know,

55:11

90 points and still not be

55:13

able to, like, is that beyond

55:15

the point of, you know, reform,

55:17

you know, the military side of

55:19

things, what happens there? Maria Karina

55:22

Machado is a brave woman. and

55:24

deserving of our help and our

55:26

support. And they did to her

55:28

what they tried to do to

55:30

your dad. They tried to, they

55:32

canceled her candidacy. If she went

55:34

to stay, if she was campaigning,

55:36

went to stay at a hotel,

55:38

the next day the tax police

55:40

would come and close that hotel.

55:42

If she went to a restaurant,

55:45

they would close that restaurant. They

55:47

locked her off from any aspect

55:49

of society. And yet, even with

55:51

her campaigning and at Mundo Gonzales,

55:53

the guy who was allowed to

55:55

run, who was really the surrogate

55:57

for her. wins the election in

55:59

end of July by 70 to

56:01

30. They really wins by 40

56:03

points. And the Maduro regime, which

56:06

is effectively a narco state. There's

56:08

34 major narcotic and meth production

56:10

facilities in the country. They are

56:12

petrometh, basically, that's exactly. Yeah, yeah.

56:14

Really bad people and exporting leftist

56:16

communist money to all the other

56:18

political parties all across the continent.

56:20

it. There's sanctions. I'm glad they're

56:22

tightening down on the nonsense of

56:24

US oil companies there, but it's

56:27

ultimately going to have to be

56:29

there have to be pushed out.

56:31

And it doesn't require US military.

56:33

It can be covert action from

56:35

the intelligence community or covert action

56:37

from Venezuelan patriots helped by outsiders.

56:39

That's because ultimately the Maduro regime

56:41

has to know that there are

56:43

consequences to staying. And that's absolutely

56:45

the US, it should be US

56:47

policy because they're an absolute malign,

56:50

extremely negative influence. And just as

56:52

recently as like a week ago,

56:54

they're sending gunboats out to threaten

56:56

Exxon ships, loading oil from Guyana.

56:58

So again, creating a controversy, creating

57:00

a conflict, Maduro claims basically 70%

57:02

of his neighbor. It's the Esequibo

57:04

area. And why do they want

57:06

it? Because the largest new oil

57:08

and gas discovery in the Western

57:11

Hemisphere is there. Guyana is the

57:13

fastest growing economy in the world

57:15

because of that. And now they're

57:17

out there even threatening their neighbors

57:19

trying to take their land. So

57:21

again, is a bully, is a

57:23

fairly well funded bully, but their

57:25

military doesn't really believe them or

57:27

doesn't really support them. a few

57:29

punches to the face and they

57:32

will go. So I mean that

57:34

sounds a little bit like what

57:36

we were talking about frankly earlier

57:38

with like the DRC and then

57:40

Rwanda, the Congo and Rwanda and

57:42

these sort of bad actors encroaching

57:44

on their neighbors that may be

57:46

resource rich. You know, that seems

57:48

to be a recurring theme that

57:50

we're seeing around the world. It's

57:52

a recurring theme and I think

57:55

private sector help helping countries, look,

57:57

we raise some money. I trolled

57:59

in the duro after they stole

58:01

the election and I well I

58:03

I said, if Biden Harris actually

58:05

want to support democracy in Venezuela,

58:07

they should raise the boundaries to

58:09

100 million each, sit back and

58:11

watch the magic happen. Well, that

58:13

led to a lot of people

58:16

contacting me saying, please start to

58:18

go fund me. We did that.

58:20

It's called Yekazi Venezuela, which means

58:22

almost there, Venezuela, raised the money

58:24

for it. And I can assure

58:26

you, my friends in Venezuela, things

58:28

are in process to push the

58:30

Maduro regime out. Look, Maduro is

58:32

wanted and the U.S. raised the

58:34

bounty to 25 million dollars. Okay,

58:37

that was one last thing that

58:39

was one of the few good

58:41

things that Biden administration did on

58:43

the way out. And I want

58:45

the Maduro team to realize all

58:47

the other people that have had

58:49

25 million dollar bounties on them.

58:51

What is their status today? Not

58:53

so good? Not so good. Yeah.

58:55

They're either six feet under or

58:58

they're in the bottom of the

59:00

Indian Ocean like Osama bin Laden.

59:02

So it's not going to end

59:04

well. Leave the Venezuelan people breathe

59:06

free. So, you know, is Secretary

59:08

Arubio, I think he's actually done

59:10

a great job, he's doing, and

59:12

by the way, it's someone who

59:14

I'm friendly with, but, you know,

59:16

on a foreign policy standpoint, 10

59:18

years ago, we probably wouldn't have

59:21

agreed on much. I think he's

59:23

actually sort of, you know, really

59:25

actually embraced the Trump doctrine, sort

59:27

of understanding what it is, and

59:29

actually, fixing these problems. But... You

59:31

know, they said they're going to

59:33

go after, you know, sort of

59:35

these anti-American regimes around the world,

59:37

but they'll actually, you know, be

59:39

consequences to that. You know, who

59:42

are those worst actors, you know,

59:44

in this? How do you effectuate

59:46

that to provide it from, you

59:48

know, happening again? Look, the simple

59:50

foreign policy should be that our

59:52

friends love us, our rivals respect

59:54

us, and our enemies fear us.

59:56

And so when you have Venezuela

59:58

or Cuba or Iran continuing to

1:00:00

do... malpractice and hurting us. There's

1:00:03

lots of ways to dial up

1:00:05

that pressure economically, of course, and

1:00:07

even internally and lots of people

1:00:09

that want to breathe free in

1:00:11

those countries. You know, it was

1:00:13

a huge missed opportunity within the

1:00:15

last four years when the women

1:00:17

life freedom protests were on in

1:00:19

Iran. Okay, you have millions of

1:00:21

women. opportunity to regime change. This

1:00:23

seems like the window. And it

1:00:26

doesn't require external troops or anything

1:00:28

like that. You had literally millions

1:00:30

of people in the streets, women

1:00:32

that just didn't want to have

1:00:34

to cover their heads and wanted

1:00:36

to be able to dance, drink

1:00:38

a beer, be in public, and

1:00:40

not have to be subject to

1:00:42

religious police. And so not supporting

1:00:44

those people in their desire to

1:00:47

be free is a huge mistake.

1:00:49

And I kept telling the Israelis.

1:00:51

for the cost of one or

1:00:53

two F-35s, you could actually get

1:00:55

rid of the mullahs. And it

1:00:57

would be an amazing, you know,

1:00:59

Iran has very smart people, very

1:01:01

educated, very hardworking, a significant amount

1:01:03

of resources, a traditional return of

1:01:05

Iran of Persia to its rightful

1:01:08

role. It was one of the

1:01:10

most like bohemian countries in the

1:01:12

world prior to smart and industrious

1:01:14

and all the rest. If you

1:01:16

do that, it would drag the

1:01:18

rest of the Middle East far

1:01:20

forward. because it would make them

1:01:22

work hard, innovate, and get off

1:01:24

of a Muslim Brotherhood line of

1:01:26

political Islam. So what do you

1:01:29

think happens there right now as

1:01:31

they seem to be getting ever

1:01:33

closer to actually achieving some sort

1:01:35

of nuclear capability? You know, I

1:01:37

mean, can Israel really just sit

1:01:39

there and just wait for it

1:01:41

to happen? It does not seem

1:01:43

like that's plausible to me as

1:01:45

a just thinking individual. I think

1:01:47

it's an exceptionally dangerous position for

1:01:49

the entire Middle East for Iran

1:01:52

to be nuclear, but again, I

1:01:54

don't think that gets solved best

1:01:56

by the U.S. intervening military. When

1:01:58

you look at thousands of years

1:02:00

of history, attacking Iran from the

1:02:02

outside never ends that well, but

1:02:04

almost like a firecracker in the

1:02:06

inside of your hand. I mean,

1:02:08

literally the geography of Iran protects

1:02:10

the middle. Okay, like the there's

1:02:13

there goes a mountains around the

1:02:15

whole southern side and so again,

1:02:17

a little covert action, a little

1:02:19

cleverness inside. And but the first

1:02:21

thing we have to do is

1:02:23

make some kind of detente. We

1:02:25

can be frenemies with Russia. We

1:02:27

don't have to be enemies. And

1:02:29

so pulling Russia away from China

1:02:31

towards the West, we have much

1:02:34

more in common culturally with Russia

1:02:36

than we do with China or

1:02:38

India or Japan or Korea. Russia

1:02:40

has always been a Western looking

1:02:42

nation. Return it to that rule.

1:02:44

So first there, that will isolate

1:02:46

Iran and make them exceedingly uncomfortable

1:02:48

and vulnerable. that's next and the

1:02:50

other dirtbag states like Venezuela will

1:02:52

fall on their own. Interesting. So,

1:02:54

you know, as we talk about

1:02:57

sort of broken and or corrupted

1:02:59

governments, I think we've experienced plenty

1:03:01

of that even here in the

1:03:03

United States. Anyone who's been watching

1:03:05

for the last nine years gets

1:03:07

it, you know, they've done it

1:03:09

to you, they've certainly done it

1:03:11

to me. You, you know, in

1:03:13

one of your, you know, many

1:03:15

ventures, you started a company called

1:03:18

Unplugged, private phone. you know, off

1:03:20

the grid. Can you tell us

1:03:22

a little bit about that? Because

1:03:24

again, I think, you know, more

1:03:26

and more people, you know, if

1:03:28

you would have said this, even,

1:03:30

even as they were doing it

1:03:32

to us, right? When they were

1:03:34

doing it to me with Russia,

1:03:36

Russia, Russia, and I mean, you

1:03:39

and I became friends during that

1:03:41

time, I'm like, I don't even

1:03:43

know what they're talking, but, you

1:03:45

know, privacy. in your smartphone and

1:03:47

your daily communications. I mean, it's

1:03:49

a really big deal. I think

1:03:51

people are now. far more aware

1:03:53

of that again. Maybe we needed

1:03:55

to sort of hit rock bottom

1:03:57

to understand and appreciate that. Tell

1:04:00

us a little bit about unplugged.

1:04:02

Yes, I've felt the heat of

1:04:04

the surveillance state coming at me

1:04:06

and it's unnerving and we decided

1:04:08

to do this phone after the

1:04:10

2020 election when people were getting

1:04:12

thrown off platforms and censorship and

1:04:14

all the big tech collusion with

1:04:16

big government. And I said we're

1:04:18

never gonna make big tech better

1:04:20

by complaining about it only if

1:04:23

we can compete. And so. We

1:04:25

pivoted a tech team I had

1:04:27

and said, we're going to build

1:04:29

a competitive phone, standalone, outside of

1:04:31

the Google and Apple universe. And

1:04:33

the more I dug into this,

1:04:35

I learned about something called surveillance

1:04:37

capitalism. Because if you think about

1:04:39

what happened after 9-11, USG rightly

1:04:41

starts buying advertising information, looking for

1:04:44

more people that fit the profile

1:04:46

of the 19 hijackers. And so

1:04:48

that creates an entire industry of

1:04:50

data collection from advertisers. Then in

1:04:52

2009 when smartphones come out, the

1:04:54

apps that are built to sit

1:04:56

on that smartphone start collecting all

1:04:58

that data and automatically exports it.

1:05:00

It's brutal. I'll sit there, I'll

1:05:02

have a conversation about something. My

1:05:05

phone's not even on, I'm not

1:05:07

even on the app. And like

1:05:09

the next 12 ads I see,

1:05:11

the next time I open my

1:05:13

phone 45 minutes later is like

1:05:15

just inundated. Where you go, what

1:05:17

you buy, who you call, what

1:05:19

you browse, constant exporting. The phone

1:05:21

makers collect about $180 dollars over

1:05:23

ad revenue per user per user.

1:05:25

So that's why they're able to

1:05:28

give away the free phone. Exporting

1:05:30

your data. Exactly. So our phone

1:05:32

doesn't have an advertising ID. The

1:05:34

phones that you're used to have

1:05:36

a 32-digit alphanumeric code which follows

1:05:38

you around. It makes it possible

1:05:40

for the apps to extract and

1:05:42

interact and export all that information.

1:05:44

Ours doesn't do that. It prevents

1:05:46

that at the root level. We

1:05:49

have our own secure messenger or

1:05:51

on VPN. Our own store. So

1:05:53

really our device lets you be

1:05:55

in the world. but not collected

1:05:57

and exported to all of it.

1:05:59

And so as... especially in an

1:06:01

era of AI, like the average

1:06:03

kid in America has, by the

1:06:05

time they reach the age of

1:06:07

13, has 72 million data points

1:06:10

collected. Okay? So in AI, someone

1:06:12

could go. Many lifetimes a few

1:06:14

years ago without getting anywhere near

1:06:16

that. And but now when that,

1:06:18

when an LLC large language module

1:06:20

gets a hold of all that

1:06:22

data, now they can effectively digitally

1:06:24

groom you to put whatever it

1:06:26

is they want you to think

1:06:28

about. in front of you. And

1:06:30

so it's pretty frightening. So again,

1:06:33

our device lets you navigate, bank,

1:06:35

communicate, airlines, sports, video streaming, all

1:06:37

the rest. But it's a little

1:06:39

different because you're not being digitally

1:06:41

groomed for whatever it is you're

1:06:43

supposed to see. How does all

1:06:45

of this, you know, when you

1:06:47

talk about security and privacy, what

1:06:49

are your thoughts on sort of

1:06:51

crypto? You know, how people should

1:06:54

be looking at that. Where are

1:06:56

your thoughts there? Because again, it

1:06:58

seems like, you know, for me,

1:07:00

as I've sort of gotten into

1:07:02

that world and, you know, getting

1:07:04

it, seems like a great hedge

1:07:06

against some of the insanity going

1:07:08

on right now. It does seem

1:07:10

to have that now. You know,

1:07:12

it takes some... Anybody that uses

1:07:15

crypto should have an unplugged phone.

1:07:17

Why? Because we don't have an

1:07:19

advertising idea. It's hard for a

1:07:21

hacker for a hacker to find

1:07:23

for a hacker to find your

1:07:25

wallet is significantly safer on our

1:07:27

device. I'm in favor of crypto,

1:07:29

I'm in favor of alternate currencies,

1:07:31

because big government and the hegemony

1:07:33

that comes with that kind of

1:07:36

monopoly is exceedingly dangerous. Unfortunately, President

1:07:38

Trump will not be president for

1:07:40

more than the next three and

1:07:42

a half years. And we have

1:07:44

to be careful of what comes

1:07:46

next and constant vigilance in protecting

1:07:48

liberty and restraining the size of

1:07:50

government also comes with currency discipline.

1:07:52

So I'm in favor of crypto.

1:07:54

There will be a shakeout. If

1:07:56

you think about when America got

1:07:59

independence, there was... probably a dozen

1:08:01

or 20 some different competitive currencies

1:08:03

in America, state level currencies,

1:08:05

etc. And so this kind of what

1:08:08

you're seeing in crypto and there will

1:08:10

be a shaking out a consolidation. Cream

1:08:12

will rise to the top and everything else will

1:08:14

go by the way. It is the capitalist

1:08:16

way. Seems to work out pretty well usually

1:08:18

here. We'll see what happens. But Eric,

1:08:20

thank you so much. Really appreciate you

1:08:22

being here. You're welcome. And if people

1:08:25

want to find the phone. They can

1:08:27

get it at unplug.com. Okay, and we'll

1:08:29

deliver in two days. Very nice. I'll

1:08:31

get you one. Appreciate it, man. Thanks

1:08:33

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