The Left is Taking one L After Another, Live with Michael Knowles | Triggered Ep. 217

The Left is Taking one L After Another, Live with Michael Knowles | Triggered Ep. 217

Released Tuesday, 18th February 2025
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The Left is Taking one L After Another, Live with Michael Knowles | Triggered Ep. 217

The Left is Taking one L After Another, Live with Michael Knowles | Triggered Ep. 217

Tuesday, 18th February 2025
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0:00

Hey guys, welcome to another

0:02

huge episode of Triggered.

0:04

Happy President's Day, especially

0:06

with your guys' favorite

0:09

president in charge again. We

0:11

had yet another weekend of nonstop

0:13

breaking news and my father isn't

0:15

slowing down one bit, including on

0:18

the racetrack. Also, J.D. Vance went

0:20

to Germany and delivered a reality

0:23

check that had the globalists, the

0:25

people who hate us, the people

0:27

who've given up all of their

0:30

freedoms and rights other than those

0:32

in charge, perhaps, he had them

0:35

in tears, quite literally. And

0:37

later, DailyWire host, Michael Knowles

0:39

will be here, and he

0:41

recently went into the left-wings

0:44

lion den, and absolutely... obliterated the

0:46

entire Democrat party platform. We'll play

0:48

you the tape. We'll talk to

0:50

him. So make sure you are

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you, Philip? Doing very well. Thank you

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for having me. All right, so Gold

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has been in the news quite

1:58

a bit lately, Philip, with its

2:00

recent all-time high. What's driving the

2:02

gold price right now? Look, it

2:04

is. We saw 40 record new

2:07

new highs throughout 2024 and several

2:09

record highs already this year. Short

2:11

answer in terms of what's causing

2:14

it, demand, right? And demand

2:16

is at all-time highs. Total

2:18

gold demand set a quarterly

2:20

record of almost 5,000 tons

2:23

of gold. by the end of

2:25

2024. Central banks bought more than

2:27

a thousand tons for the third

2:29

consecutive year. We've just seen the

2:32

three biggest years in, you know,

2:34

human history of gold buying by

2:36

central banks. Overall, I think the

2:38

most powerful dynamic driving gold's price

2:40

is currency, right? And I think

2:42

we have to remember that over

2:45

the last number of years, the

2:47

Fed has printed more dollars than

2:49

the rest of American history all

2:51

combined together. On top of that.

2:53

as we've discussed before, Biden's

2:55

2022 weaponization of the dollar

2:58

against Russia directly resulted in

3:00

a fivefold growth of central

3:02

bank gold buying. So we're

3:04

seeing demand from central banks,

3:07

we're seeing investment demand and

3:09

technology demand all growing for

3:11

precious metals throughout 2024. So

3:13

there's been a lot of talk recently

3:16

about disruptions in the physical gold market.

3:18

What exactly is going on there? I'm

3:20

hearing Elon wants to video to see

3:22

if there's actual proof of, you know,

3:24

the US reserves at Fort Knox, if

3:26

it's actually there, I guess that's, you

3:29

know, 4,500 tons. What do you think's

3:31

going on there? By the way, Elon's absolutely

3:33

right. Ron Paul's been calling

3:35

for a public audit of

3:37

Fort Knox for 30 years

3:39

and they won't do it,

3:41

citing national security, right? But

3:43

in my mind, why would

3:45

somebody resist an audit, right?

3:47

It's simply for clarity. So

3:49

it's concerning and I think

3:51

Elon's heading down the right

3:53

path. We need more transparency.

3:55

The London market's very similar.

3:57

It's getting crazy demand for...

3:59

for gold is at an all-time

4:02

high in New York, so they

4:04

are shipping and almost emptying out

4:06

the Bank of England vault to

4:08

meet demand here in the United

4:10

States in anticipation of tariffs and

4:12

a continuing surge in demand, and

4:15

it's looking like... they may have technically

4:17

defaulted. London are not getting the

4:19

metals out in time. So it's

4:21

an interesting time in the precious

4:23

metals market. Demand is creating some

4:25

uncertainty, given that only 4% of

4:27

all the gold being traded is

4:29

physical. Now people are requesting physical

4:31

delivery. So it's an interesting time,

4:34

but it's being driven by demand.

4:36

I know there's a lot of confidence

4:38

right now that the Trump administration is

4:40

going to turn the American economy around.

4:42

Obviously that takes some time. People say,

4:45

why haven't egg prices gone down yet?

4:47

I'm like, guys, like, we took over

4:49

a disaster. That doesn't just turn around

4:51

overnight. We can start, you know, opening

4:54

doors, shedding light on things, but it

4:56

doesn't happen right away. What's the case

4:58

for diversifying with gold? I mean it's

5:00

as strong as ever and

5:02

you're absolutely correct. We are

5:04

finally now heading down the

5:06

right path, but the administration

5:08

are telling us to expect

5:10

a bumpy road and they're

5:13

right, right? How do you

5:15

deal with a 36 trillion

5:17

dollar debt problem without some

5:19

shorter term hardships? Now it

5:21

is encouraging, doge is very

5:23

encouraging, looking at government efficiency.

5:25

President Trump is... pushing to

5:27

rebuild a manufacturing base,

5:29

but they're going to need

5:32

time, right? In the meantime... We've

5:34

got spending issues, we have de-dollarization,

5:36

we have inflation, which as you

5:38

know was caused by the last

5:40

administration, and it's difficult to iron

5:42

out. So we've still got a

5:44

bumpy road in front of us.

5:46

Precious metals are about the most

5:48

conducive asset for climates like this,

5:51

right? You know, we hit many

5:53

records last year. We continue to

5:55

hit new records at all-time highs

5:57

this year. I expect it to

5:59

continue. as President Trump and the

6:01

team trying to iron out the

6:03

problems, but the argument for precious

6:06

metals today still very, very strong.

6:08

Well, Philip, thank you very much.

6:10

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6:26

let's get into some of the

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top headlines of the Team USA

6:30

showed what America will stand for

6:32

under my father and we will

6:35

not be pushed around anymore folks

6:37

and we won't tolerate having our

6:39

national anthem booed by other countries.

6:41

And if you do here's exactly

6:44

what will happen to you. Speed

7:13

cycle

7:15

into

7:17

the

7:19

zone

7:21

flipping

7:23

it

7:25

through

7:52

And meanwhile, while that was

7:54

nice, you'd think the Canadians

7:56

would probably be better at

7:58

hockey. It's very cold up

8:00

there. But I guess that's

8:02

what happens when you antagonize

8:04

America. But in the

8:07

meantime, my father isn't slowing

8:09

down one little bit. Yesterday,

8:12

he visited the Daytona 500

8:14

and even took a lap

8:16

around the track, Daytona Motor

8:19

Speedway, in The Beast. I'm

8:33

a really big fan of you people

8:35

that you do this. I know. Your

8:39

talented people and your great people and

8:41

great Americans, have a good day, have a

8:43

lot of fun, and I'll see you

8:45

later. I

8:49

imagine if you're at Daytona, if

8:51

you're a racing fan, probably pretty

8:53

magga, I'm not sure the sound

8:55

on that mic was all that

8:57

awesome. I think we could, that

8:59

sounded a little jumbled, but it

9:02

was an awesome day. I remember

9:04

when I got to do that,

9:06

man, a couple years ago when

9:08

my father was president the first

9:10

time around, and just buzzing Daytona

9:12

Motor Speedway in Air Force One,

9:14

and then seeing the entire crowd

9:16

just go nuts, it was absolutely.

9:18

Awesome. And while the Trump

9:21

White House continues to rack

9:23

up win after win by

9:25

deporting illegals, rooting out waste,

9:28

and stopping fraud, the media

9:30

is getting dizzy while they

9:33

spin in circles. Here's CPS

9:35

anchor Margaret Brennan, yet again,

9:37

showing just how dumb the

9:40

mainstream media really is, interviewing

9:42

Secretary of State Marco Rubio,

9:44

suggesting that free speech. is

9:47

what caused the rise of

9:49

Hitler and the Holocaust. You

9:51

cannot make this insanity and

9:54

this level of stupidity up,

9:56

folks. Standing in a country

9:58

where free speech was weaponized to

10:00

conduct a genocide, and

10:02

he met with the head

10:04

of a political party

10:06

that has far -right views

10:08

and some historic ties to

10:10

extreme groups. The context

10:12

of that was changing the

10:14

tone of it. And

10:16

you know that, that the

10:19

censorship was specifically about

10:21

the right. No, I have

10:23

to disagree with you. Free

10:26

speech was not used to conduct a genocide.

10:28

The genocide was conducted by an authoritarian Nazi

10:30

regime that happened to also be genocidal because

10:32

they hated Jews and they hated minorities and

10:34

they hated those that they had a list

10:37

of people they hated but primarily the Jews.

10:39

There was no free speech in Nazi Germany.

10:41

There was none. There was also no opposition

10:43

in Nazi Germany. They were a sole and

10:45

only party that governed that country. So that's

10:47

not an accurate reflection of history. It

10:50

never seems to be an

10:52

accurate reflection of history. They just

10:54

say things hoping that no

10:56

one will actually call them out.

10:58

But again, in this Trump

11:01

administration, those days are over. We

11:03

will speak truth to liars

11:05

in the media because that is

11:07

speaking truth to power. Unfortunately,

11:09

they still have a lot of

11:11

power. But as you can

11:13

see, their bias knows no bounds.

11:16

Now those remarks came in

11:18

response to Vice President Vance, JD's

11:20

speech in Germany last week

11:22

where he excoriated the Europeans for

11:24

putting censorship, open borders, endless

11:26

war, and woke madness over the

11:28

simple safety and security of

11:31

their very own citizens. Check this

11:33

out. Oppressing opinions isn't election

11:35

interference. Even when people express views

11:37

outside your own country and

11:39

even when those people are very

11:41

influential. And trust me, I

11:43

say this with all humor. If

11:46

American democracy can survive 10

11:48

years of Greta Thunberg scolding, you

11:50

guys can survive a few

11:52

months of Elon Musk. But

11:55

what German democracy, what

11:58

no democracy,

12:01

America... American, German, or European

12:03

will survive is telling millions

12:05

of voters that their thoughts

12:08

and concerns, their aspirations, their

12:10

pleas for relief, are invalid

12:12

or unworthy of even being

12:15

considered. Well, Vance's speech

12:17

even had one European

12:19

diplomat in tears. Literally,

12:21

in tears. You can't make

12:23

this stuff up. No wonder

12:25

Europe's almost over. I mean,

12:27

it's hard to believe. Did

12:30

this better than President

12:32

Sselenski? Let me conclude

12:34

and this becomes difficult.

13:01

And yesterday Germany and the media

13:04

approved Vance Wright as German officials went

13:06

on the record to 60 minutes saying

13:08

that posting an insult online is a

13:11

crime. You literally cannot make it up.

13:13

Posting an insult is on crime. The

13:15

people who've destroyed European civilization think that's

13:18

a crime. But you know what? We'll

13:20

let in a bunch of rapists and

13:22

if they rape are women and children.

13:25

I mean, who cares? It's just a

13:27

cultural anomaly that you just can't quite

13:29

understand. To insult

13:31

somebody in public. Yes, it

13:33

is. And it's a crime to insult

13:36

them online as well? Yes. The

13:38

fine could be even higher if

13:40

you insult someone in the internet.

13:42

Why? Because in internet, it stays

13:44

there. If we are talking here

13:46

face to face, you insult me, I'll

13:48

sell you. OK, finish. But if

13:50

you're in the internet, if I

13:52

insult you or a politician, that

13:55

sticks around forever. Yeah. There's no

13:57

chance they can survive with these

13:59

asks. and as always like with

14:01

any leftist politician anything they say

14:03

they were wrong my father was

14:05

booing that was the guy that

14:07

laughed when my father called out

14:09

Russia and their energy prices

14:11

in Europe that they wouldn't be

14:14

dependent on them yada yada

14:16

yada and as always like with

14:18

any good conspiracy or with

14:20

any leftist politician anything they

14:22

say they were wrong my

14:25

father was right. And we've

14:27

seen what's happened over the

14:29

last few years. So these

14:31

are the incompetence that are

14:33

running Europe. And they keep

14:35

electing themselves, keep destroying their

14:38

civilization. It's ridiculous. But remember

14:40

now, if you make fun of

14:42

someone online, it's a crime in

14:44

Europe. So they are not a

14:47

bastion of democracy. They are an

14:49

invaded. nation run by absolute lunatics.

14:51

So whether it's Germany or so

14:54

many of the other countries there,

14:56

hopefully they do something about it

14:58

before it's too late, if it's

15:00

not already too late. Speaking

15:03

of invasions, on the border,

15:05

we are already seeing historic

15:07

success as the era of

15:09

catch and release is over

15:11

folks. One shelter in San

15:13

Diego even says they've not

15:16

had one migrant walk through

15:18

its doors since my father

15:20

took office. And the

15:22

facilities that are filling up

15:24

are the ones filled up with

15:26

those who are being removed,

15:28

repatriated, and deported. Here's

15:30

Borders are Tom Holman

15:33

laying it out right

15:35

now. It has closed an office

15:37

that was opened up to receive illegals.

15:39

What's that tell us? It tells us

15:42

the border is more secure than it's

15:44

ever been. We're going to have

15:46

additional facilities built to detain

15:48

for removal. Not to hold

15:50

to release, detain for removal.

15:52

That's what the Trump administration

15:54

is doing. That's what the

15:56

promise that President Trump made

15:58

American people. We're concentrating on

16:00

the export program. We're not going

16:03

to be catching releases over. So

16:05

those facilities that were at great

16:07

taxpayer expense to welcome people flying

16:10

to the city of their choice,

16:12

give them a free hotel room,

16:15

a taxpayer expense, three meals a

16:17

day, free medical attention, those days

16:19

are over. We're going to detain,

16:22

we end catching release, and we're

16:24

going to hold people to remove,

16:26

not to release. And on the

16:29

economy, my father is making it

16:31

clear that America isn't going to

16:33

be taken advantage of any longer.

16:36

and that reciprocal tariffs are coming

16:38

if other countries choose to put

16:40

tariffs on us. But of course,

16:43

if you make your products here

16:45

in the United States, if you

16:47

employ great blue-collar hard-working Americans, then

16:50

you don't have to worry about

16:52

the Trump tariffs. So maybe you

16:54

should start manufacturing in America again.

16:57

And foreign companies... seem to be

16:59

getting the message loud and clear.

17:01

Just look at this piece from

17:04

Fox Business, where even a quartz

17:06

and marble company from China just

17:09

announced a $250 million investment into

17:11

America, writing, and I quote, with

17:13

President Trump and power, we're more

17:16

excited than ever to commit to

17:18

the United States, adding that we're

17:20

also announcing a commitment to only

17:23

hire American workers. There will be

17:25

no undercutting of American wages. Hmm.

17:27

Interesting, guys. Are you tired of

17:30

winning yet? Is it nice when

17:32

the adults are actually back in

17:34

charge? Seems to be to me.

17:37

But to those on the left,

17:39

many are still doubling down on

17:41

the woke nonsense that lost them

17:44

the election in the first place.

17:46

For example, our next guest, Michael

17:48

Knowles, had this exchange with a

17:51

trans activist, and it was quite

17:53

the moment. It's allowing

17:55

men to be for the

17:58

purposes of the law as

18:00

women. It's men taking 900

18:02

sports trophies from women in

18:04

recent years. They didn't take

18:06

900. They took 900. There's

18:08

a report just came out

18:10

from the United Nations actually.

18:12

890 trophies and medals across

18:14

600 women who were competing

18:16

competitors across 29 different sports

18:18

and 400 competitions. That came

18:20

out like yesterday. And they deserve

18:22

them. It didn't happen and they deserve

18:24

them. Okay, that is the logic I

18:26

hear from the pro-trans crowd. We're

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20:03

only Michael Knowles. Good to have you

20:05

back, Michael. I

20:08

think Michael's there. Voice

20:12

coming through. I got you now, buddy. There

20:14

we are. We're just gonna have to fire

20:17

some people on this side of the mic,

20:19

you know? It's

20:21

tough, but someone's gonna do it. In the Trump economy,

20:23

they'll probably be to find other jobs. Okay,

20:26

so. Probably not in the federal government,

20:28

though. I understand those jobs, they're gone for

20:30

good, which is all by me. Well,

20:32

you know, I've seen plenty. I've seen the

20:34

incompetence. I've seen the graft. I've seen

20:37

the fraud. I imagine Doge has only just

20:39

begun. And given

20:41

that those people allowed those things

20:43

to happen, given that there wasn't whistleblowers

20:45

for all of this in Sandy,

20:47

I'm not sure that they're hireable in

20:49

the outside of government. I don't

20:51

know that they're qualified to do anything

20:53

other than be a bureaucrat. I

20:55

mean, so, you know, I feel badly

20:57

for them, but I sort of

20:59

feel like they've also done this to

21:01

themselves. Maybe that can be part

21:03

of the trade with the tariffs. As

21:05

we reshore American manufacturing, maybe we

21:07

can just ship all of those bureaucrats

21:09

overseas to Mexico, Canada, China. That

21:11

seems like a good trade to me.

21:13

I certainly do, but you saw

21:15

the clip just now, you talking to

21:18

another radical activist. I've seen all

21:20

the other clips from your show where

21:22

you literally debate with a bunch

21:24

of left -wing activists. It was like

21:26

batting practice at like T -ball. We

21:28

just played a clip. What is that

21:30

like? Because it's infuriating for me

21:32

to watch it because it's like, well,

21:34

that didn't happen. Well, and if

21:36

it did, it's great. And now that

21:38

we know that it happened, it's

21:40

actually wonderful and we must continue to

21:42

promote it. What's

21:45

going on here? I

21:47

mean, they just keep lying

21:49

and lying and lying,

21:51

but I think the good

21:53

news is it exposes

21:56

people and hopefully that shifts

21:58

the momentum. Well, Don,

22:00

I think you know exactly

22:02

what that's like. Something

22:04

tells me you've been surrounded

22:06

by a lot of

22:09

people who want to... rip you

22:11

to shreds in recent years, as have most conservative

22:13

Americans, actually. Because the mainstream culture is extremely liberal,

22:15

and over the last five to 15 years, it

22:17

has pushed really, really radical stuff. The open borders,

22:19

the trans craziness, you name it. So most people

22:21

are familiar with being surrounded by people who want

22:24

to rip you apart. The surrounded podcast just distills

22:26

that into its most concentrated form. So that you're

22:28

sitting there in the center. surrounded by a

22:30

couple dozen people who disagree with

22:32

you on everything. And some people

22:34

seem surprised that when I went

22:36

on this show... chatted with these

22:39

guys for like two hours or

22:41

something, that I was calm. But

22:43

I think that most conservatives can

22:45

behave that way because the facts

22:47

are on our side, we're confident

22:49

in what we believe, reality does

22:51

not actually change despite the fantasies

22:53

of the radical left. So yeah,

22:56

why wouldn't we become? You know,

22:58

and I think actually in this

23:00

particular political moment, that's all

23:02

the clearer. When you've got

23:04

the establishment media, the radical...

23:06

left activists in the government

23:09

shrieking and hollering because of, as we

23:11

were just discussing, Elon and Doge, or

23:13

because JD Vance is scolding Europeans at

23:16

the Munich Security Conference, or because your

23:18

father is deporting criminal aliens with face

23:20

tattoos, when the left is screeching and

23:22

screaming and crying about it, We don't

23:25

really need to have an emotional reaction

23:27

because we are confident that what we

23:29

are doing is right. We know that

23:31

the American people are behind us. A

23:34

landslide election with the popular vote will

23:36

show you that. And now we happen

23:38

to have some political power so we

23:40

can restore some sanity to things. I mean

23:43

I think it's a mark of a debate

23:45

just generally that the side that is screaming

23:47

and pulling its hair out and turning red

23:49

in the face versus the side that is

23:52

calm and collected and just stating facts. Anybody,

23:54

any reasonable person who's watching that debate is

23:56

going to be on the side of the

23:58

sane, normal person. I think maybe you

24:01

see that play out on YouTube, but

24:03

I think we've seen that play out

24:05

nationally in the last six months. Yeah,

24:07

because it's sort of amazing, right? I

24:10

mean, the left doesn't really have an

24:12

equivalent where, you know, someone who's actually

24:14

versed into these things sort of gets

24:16

owned, you know, by one of these

24:19

activist types, right? It's the conservatives, they'll

24:21

let anyone talk, they'll let the thought

24:23

leaders of the left. They'll debate them,

24:25

they'll talk about them. You know, I

24:28

feel like the left equivalent, they find

24:30

like someone who knows nothing about it,

24:32

they try to find, you know, probably

24:34

someone who means well, but just isn't

24:37

all that educated on it even if

24:39

they are disagreeing with it. And like,

24:41

that's when they're like, oh, I got

24:43

you, because they found, you know, the

24:46

lowest IQ individual on the right to

24:48

actually debate. And then it's, you know,

24:50

they don't have an equivalent. Literally toddlers

24:52

could go up against their narrative right

24:55

now and and demolish it I think

24:57

it is pretty telling that especially with

24:59

the Jubilee Surrounded Show, generally speaking, it's

25:01

one conservative versus a couple dozen radical

25:04

leftists. And it's usually not the other

25:06

way around, because if it were the

25:08

other way around, the 25 conservatives would

25:10

be respectful and would probably present pretty

25:13

good arguments and they would be genial

25:15

about it. And that doesn't make great

25:17

TV. So I think actually it's the

25:19

difference between the left and the right

25:22

that is kind of built in there.

25:24

In terms of practical politics, one of

25:26

the first rules is that when your

25:28

opponent is making a mistake, you should

25:31

not interrupt. And that's generally what happens

25:33

on here. When the radical leftists are

25:35

spewing total nonsense, you can kind of

25:37

guide them into their inconsistencies. But really,

25:40

you can just let them speak. They're

25:42

going to hang their own arguments with

25:44

their own rhetorical rope. And at the

25:47

national level, I think that's exactly what's

25:49

happened for the last 50 years. left

25:51

has become so extreme, but especially you

25:53

think that the last five years, record

25:56

numbers of... legal aliens crossing the border

25:58

under Biden. Biden basically welcoming them for

26:00

that. Obviously the trans craziness the social

26:02

policy even the foreign policy has just

26:05

spun so out of control. The left

26:07

has just made so many mistakes that

26:09

they've so exposed themselves that the the

26:11

American people broadly turned on them in

26:14

November and it's going to take a

26:16

lot for the left to unwind that.

26:18

Frankly now it seems to me they

26:20

still haven't really learned any lessons. The

26:23

one kind of moderate... Democrat in the

26:25

Senate isn't a force anymore, Joe Mansion.

26:27

So I don't know, they haven't really

26:29

learned their lesson at all. And I

26:32

say, great, let them speak, put them

26:34

on TV, have them say everything they

26:36

believe, have them lose their minds when

26:38

your father and Elon are exposing graft

26:41

and fraud at USAID. Have them defend

26:43

that. For goodness sakes, have the left

26:45

defending plastic straws. Love it. That's a

26:47

90-10 political issue. You guys want to

26:50

defend the indefensibleensible indefensible, be my guest.

26:52

Yeah, and we saw so much of

26:54

that. Margaret Brennan had a couple great

26:56

ones, you know, one, I guess it

26:59

was with JD, when it was like,

27:01

well, they only took over, you know,

27:03

radical Venezuelan gangs, only took over a

27:05

couple of buildings in Colorado, JD, and

27:08

then it was with Marco this weekend.

27:10

I mean, listen, you know, free speech

27:12

led to the rise of Nazi German.

27:14

I'm like, I mean, where are they

27:17

getting these history books? It's wild, and

27:19

they keep doing it. So it's not

27:21

just the... you know, the dumbest of

27:23

their movement, these are the people that

27:26

they think of as like their thought

27:28

leaders and they don't get it. I

27:30

mean, I love that to your point,

27:32

like let them keep making the mistake,

27:35

let them keep talking about it, but

27:37

it's actually shocking that they could be

27:39

that ignorant given where the world is

27:41

right now and what's going on over

27:44

the last four years. Well, this is

27:46

what makes me think they're going to

27:48

keep making these mistakes through the midterms,

27:50

through the next presidential election. Even, you

27:53

mentioned Margaret Brennan on CBS, and she

27:55

in particular keeps making these mistakes, trying

27:57

to defend USAID spending that didn't work

28:00

out very well. But Michael, who wouldn't

28:02

want to send... million dollars for you

28:04

know trans elmo cartoons in Guatemala I

28:06

mean it's great use of taxpayer funds

28:09

when we have crappy roads crappy health

28:11

care crappy education you know our country's

28:13

falling apart people getting murdered in the

28:15

streets I mean isn't that still great

28:18

use of funds Michael come on well

28:20

the framers spoke so highly of transgender

28:22

Argentinian Illinois I think it's literally in

28:24

the Constitution of course where it's there

28:27

I could tell you Michael They keep

28:29

doing it and with you

28:31

alluded to it just now,

28:34

but Margaret Brennan suggesting Her

28:36

words not mine that the Holocaust

28:38

was caused by an abundance of free speech.

28:40

And you think, you know, look, I'm not

28:43

the greatest scholar of the Second World War,

28:45

but it seems to me in 1933 in

28:47

particular, you had at least three or four

28:50

major provisions out of Nazi Germany that severely

28:52

limited free speech and civil liberties. Miss Brennan,

28:54

can you have any example to the contrary?

28:56

And of course, they can't offer one. You

28:59

know, Ronald Reagan famously said, the problem with

29:01

our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant.

29:03

It's just that they know so much that

29:05

isn't so much that isn't so much that

29:08

isn't so. keep going back to

29:10

that. I mean I think this

29:12

is the most tedious aspect for

29:14

people left, right, and center in

29:16

America that for the American left,

29:18

including the mainstream. Every moment is

29:20

1930s Germany. Every Republican is Hitler.

29:22

Every policy is about to bring

29:24

about the Holocaust. And people know

29:26

it's not true. They're completely sick

29:28

of it. Believe it or not,

29:30

other things happened in history beyond

29:32

the Second World War. And of

29:34

course, the irony is the people

29:36

who constantly compare every event to the

29:38

Second World War. don't even know that

29:41

much about the Second World War, you

29:43

know, they're just exposing a lack of

29:45

knowledge and political sophistication that is stunning,

29:47

but which is really delightful if you're

29:50

on the right side of things. Yeah,

29:52

like you don't have to be, you know,

29:54

a World War II scholar to know that

29:56

like, of course, like, Hitler started banning guns,

29:59

he was burning. They limited free speech.

30:01

I mean, that was like the beginning

30:03

of the rise of Nazi Germany. So

30:05

it's literally the opposite of what she

30:08

said. And anyone who's taken like, you

30:10

know, sixth or seventh grade, like world

30:12

history would know that. And yet they

30:15

conveniently either forget or don't know or

30:17

don't care, all equally bad. Exactly. And

30:19

you know, there is a reason that

30:22

the left has sought to censor people.

30:24

You saw this when JD was lecturing

30:26

Europe. Europe has been even more egregious

30:28

about this, banning, right-wing political parties, prohibiting

30:31

people from praying 50 meters away from

30:33

abortion clinics. I mean, really, really crazy

30:35

stuff. But you saw it here too,

30:38

and the abuses under Biden. The DOJ

30:40

going after Catholic parishes, arresting pro-lifers in

30:42

front of their seven kids. calling parents,

30:45

terrorists and domestic extremists. So we've seen

30:47

it pretty substantially in America too. Why

30:49

is it? This is where debates like

30:52

the show that I just went on

30:54

that's going viral. This is where I

30:56

think you see why they're censoring it.

30:59

Because if a debate is able to

31:01

happen in public for everyone to see

31:03

a fair fight where both sides can

31:06

be heard, be that on a YouTube

31:08

interview show or be that in a

31:10

presidential election, if it's a fair fight,

31:12

then the right side is going to

31:15

win right now because the left has

31:17

lost the common sense and so thankfully

31:19

we were able to get a little

31:22

foothold into social media which so tried

31:24

to destroy your father in 2016 and

31:26

2020. Once you get just a little

31:29

bit of that exposure you are not

31:31

only going to win over the choir

31:33

in your core base you are going

31:36

to win over as we saw the

31:38

majority of Americans. Yeah, I mean, it's

31:40

why the left, they were, they were

31:43

such Elon fanboys until he helped level

31:45

that playing field. You know, when they

31:47

had the entire weight and force of

31:50

social media, I mean, and they still

31:52

do, you know, across the broad spectrum

31:54

of, you know, apps or whatever you

31:56

want to look at it at, when

31:59

you have the entire weight and force.

32:01

of mainstream media and then you have

32:03

a government backing it up and or

32:06

subverting truth whatever it may be through

32:08

USAID funding all sorts of other levels

32:10

of journalism like I was always shocked

32:13

that, frankly, that elections are as close

32:15

as they are. I feel like if

32:17

I was running the other side with

32:20

the resources that they had, with the

32:22

operatives that they had, that are all

32:24

home team, all functioning as the marketing

32:27

department of the radical left, I'd be

32:29

like, elections would be like 99.9 to

32:31

like 0.01. It wouldn't even be close,

32:34

and yet they were still close because

32:36

the ideas were always absurd. They never

32:38

made any sense. Once you had a

32:41

little exposure to that, they freaked because

32:43

they realized that they're... losing badly and

32:45

it's the first time they've lost the

32:47

cultural wars, even with the handicaps that

32:50

they were giving themselves for all these

32:52

years, perhaps in certainly my lifetime. Well,

32:54

and think about this, Elon Musk put

32:57

his money where our mouths are, $44

32:59

billion, to purchase. the smallest major social

33:01

media platform. We get lost in Twitter

33:04

and Facebook and Instagram. We all think

33:06

it's kind of the same. No, Twitter

33:08

is by far, or at least was

33:11

before Elon really made it much better,

33:13

but it was the smallest one by

33:15

far compared to Facebook and Google. Just

33:18

getting that tiny foothold into the social

33:20

media was enough to shift. the entire

33:22

dynamic of the election. Just cleaning up

33:25

one agency of the federal government, USAID,

33:27

the left loves to say no it's

33:29

less than 1% of the federal budget,

33:31

which first of all is a lot

33:34

of money when you're considering the United

33:36

States federal budget. But in any case,

33:38

sure, okay it's just one agency of

33:41

the federal government, just one agency. with

33:43

all of that graft, all of that

33:45

abuse, all of those payoffs to fund

33:48

not only foreign liberalism, but domestic liberalism.

33:50

Just to use one example, when you've

33:52

got the taxpayer dollars, you pay your

33:55

money to the IRS, the IRS funds,

33:57

the federal government gives money to USAID,

33:59

USAID gives money to the tides. center,

34:02

the Tide Center funds BLM, BLM goes

34:04

down, burns down your neighborhood, starts extorting

34:06

corporate America to further advance leftism, and

34:09

it's this hideous feedback loop. That's like

34:11

one tiny little example. The moment you

34:13

start shedding a little bit of light

34:15

on this, I think the people, even

34:18

those of us who were aware that

34:20

there was serious corruption, are just astounded

34:22

by the sheer enormity of it. Yeah,

34:25

I guess all these left-wing narratives really

34:27

collapse on themselves. Once you reduce the

34:29

conversation down to basic truths, there's a

34:32

lot of sort of cognitive dissidents on

34:34

the left. We're seeing it all play

34:36

out in very obvious ways. What are

34:39

some of the other most egregious examples

34:41

that you've seen play out where you're

34:43

actually, you can't even believe that you're

34:46

having the conversation? Well, I can believe

34:48

that the left has gotten this extreme

34:50

because their ideas have consequences and so

34:53

Left unimpeded they're going to go all

34:55

the way from you know Gloria Steinham

34:57

in the 70s saying a woman needs

34:59

a man like a fish needs a

35:02

bicycle all the way to a woman

35:04

really can become a man. And the

35:06

reason that particular ideology has really overtaken

35:09

public discourse is because it's just so

35:11

obviously ridiculous. And on certain issues, you

35:13

can negotiate and meet in the middle,

35:16

meet in the middle, you can negotiate

35:18

and meet in the middle, meet in

35:20

the middle, and have a 35% tax

35:23

rate. Not ideal, but you can, or

35:25

on gun rights. We want to keep

35:27

our guns. The left wants to take

35:30

our guns. They take some of our

35:32

guns. You can meet in the middle,

35:34

sometimes, unfortunately. Unfortunately. On an issue like

35:37

human nature, there's no meeting in the

35:39

middle. Either a boy can become a

35:41

girl or he can't. It's not like

35:44

you can suddenly become the opposite sex

35:46

at age 19 and a half or

35:48

something. It's either true or it isn't.

35:50

So that's one reason that I think

35:53

that issue has really taken off. It's

35:55

the same reason that the immigration issue

35:57

is taken off. Because as you say,

36:00

Don, you don't need a PhD in

36:02

philosophy or history. to understand that nations

36:04

need borders. You know, a border is

36:07

literally the thing that delineates a nation

36:09

from all of the other nations. So

36:11

when you have the left with their

36:14

genius experts coming out and saying, well,

36:16

actually, you know, we don't really have

36:18

a border, and actually the law technically

36:21

doesn't mean that you can distinguish, you

36:23

know, you just think, hey, shut up,

36:25

man, I'm pretty sure we can enforce

36:28

basic immigration law. And if one's political

36:30

ideology runs contrary. to all of our

36:32

common sense, the left thinks that means

36:34

there's a problem with our common sense.

36:37

In reality, it means there's a problem

36:39

with that political ideology. And if the

36:41

voters have the opportunity to vote that

36:44

out, which was a little unclear because

36:46

the left wanted to take your father

36:48

off the ballot in this past election,

36:51

but because they failed... To save democracy,

36:53

though, Michael, we're going to not let

36:55

you vote for people to save democracy.

36:58

And then when the person we do

37:00

elect stops performing, we're just going to

37:02

replace them without an election... Also, to

37:05

save democracy. Exactly. I mean you saw

37:07

this just at the Munich Security Conference

37:09

that JD caused this big ripple at

37:12

is he said you know democracies don't

37:14

have firewalls and I think a lot

37:16

of Americans are not familiar with this

37:18

term. Germany and therefore Europe has this

37:21

so-called firewall to prevent right-wing parties and

37:23

even ordinary conservatism from rising in Germany

37:25

which is the leader of Europe. And

37:28

JD pointed out he said all you

37:30

guys here you you prattle on and

37:32

on about democracy but you're afraid of

37:35

your You're afraid of your constituents. You

37:37

won't let them speak online. You arrest

37:39

them. You have midnight raids because they

37:42

say something you don't like online. And

37:44

then you have a political order that

37:46

actually formally kicks out the right wing

37:49

parties through a so-called firewall. And in

37:51

many ways, I think JD's speech there

37:53

was reminiscent of Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan

37:56

goes to the Brandenburg gate. He says,

37:58

Gorbachev, tear down this wall. Allow your

38:00

people who are smart who you know have

38:02

good interests and the the heart of your

38:05

civilization, you know close to them Allow them

38:07

to have their way a little bit, you

38:09

know, I mean if you really believe in democracy

38:11

Live up to what you're speaking, you

38:13

know, but they don't they're they want

38:15

to have power with the people that

38:17

are in power They want to make

38:19

sure that no one else has a

38:21

voice. They want to keep doing their

38:23

thing because there's no consequence to them

38:25

and frankly they probably couldn't make it

38:27

in a world where it was fair

38:30

That's right. They couldn't. They

38:32

certainly could not. And so that's

38:34

why what you're seeing is a

38:37

real upending of this political order.

38:39

It's not an original inside. I

38:41

first saw it from Walter Kern,

38:44

but he pointed out that this

38:46

shift from Biden to

38:48

the second Trump administration

38:50

feels like an actual

38:53

peaceful transfer of power. Bush to

38:55

Clinton to Bush to Obama it

38:57

It's kind of just feels more

38:59

like people changing shifts at the

39:01

regular job You know this however

39:04

seems like a legitimate transfer of

39:06

power and the left is not

39:08

particularly peaceful about it But but

39:10

it's a new vision for the

39:12

country and every entrenched power is

39:15

upset about it other than the people

39:17

and the people happily in this case

39:19

have had their say Well, you know, we

39:22

touched on it a little bit, but

39:24

obviously we're learning that the entire woke

39:26

agenda has really been propped up by

39:28

our own tax dollars. It was a

39:30

lot of smoke and mirrors from the

39:32

start. The left can't really exist. without

39:34

essentially the government subsidies that were getting.

39:36

I mean, I noticed that none of

39:38

the things in USAID or any of

39:40

the other things went to prop up

39:42

anything that was even remotely right leaning

39:45

or conservative. It was just always the

39:47

worst of the left. And then you

39:49

start looking back in hindsight now that

39:51

you know where this money is coming

39:53

from and you understand exactly why they

39:55

took the positions that they did. It

39:58

was pay for play. The media artificially...

40:00

propping up those who paid them and

40:02

allowed them to continue their propaganda. This

40:04

I think is why it was so

40:07

brilliant to go after USAID first. A

40:09

lot of people would have said, you

40:11

know, of all the priorities for the

40:13

administration, who cares about this? foreign aid

40:16

agency. But of course, it wasn't really

40:18

just about foreign aid. I mean, even

40:20

the good programs at USAID, and there

40:22

were a couple of them, but even

40:25

those had been poisoned by liberalism. Just

40:27

the fact that Joe Biden tied all

40:29

foreign aid to the promotion of LGBT

40:32

ideology and abortion, just that alone poisoned

40:34

it. But of course, so much was

40:36

leading to. domestic unrest and astroturf leftism.

40:38

And so it was so brilliant, as

40:41

the administration is really going into High

40:43

Gear, to say, okay guys, if people

40:45

really oppose the basic common sense policies

40:47

that we're instituting, that's fine. They can

40:50

protest it. This is a democracy. But

40:52

we are not going to force taxpayers

40:54

to fund those protests because of the

40:57

radical leftists in the government. And what's

40:59

amazing is, ever since those funds have

41:01

been cut off. Don, have you seen

41:03

mass protests in the streets, BLM 2.0?

41:06

I don't know, maybe I've just missed

41:08

it. I haven't seen it anywhere. Well,

41:10

I imagine they were funding all of

41:12

that too, by the way. And I'm

41:15

sure we'll find out more in the

41:17

coming months, but we talked about J.D.

41:19

Vance a little bit, and he literally

41:21

brought a European diplomat to tears. For

41:24

simply saying we shouldn't have censorship or

41:26

give away endless money to Ukraine by

41:28

the way that was the same guy

41:31

that when my father said hey Russia's

41:33

gonna own your lunch if you don't

41:35

have yada yada he you know he

41:37

laughed at him you know five or

41:40

six years ago turns out like all

41:42

conspiracy there is my father was right

41:44

and the leftist morons were proven wrong

41:46

but I mean, what is wrong with

41:49

these people? I mean, imagine being brought

41:51

to tears by just a disagreement of

41:53

something that, I don't know, seems fairly

41:56

obvious. Is it just... that they see

41:58

their power slipping away and they understand

42:00

that they're inextricably linked to that hegemony

42:02

and it's at risk? I totally understand

42:05

why not just the one guy but

42:07

why so many of the Munich Security

42:09

Conference would have been brought to tears

42:11

because they as you say are seeing

42:14

their power slip away and they are

42:16

seeing a fundamental shifting of the political

42:18

order. And I think this is why

42:21

it was so important. It seems to

42:23

me like the second Trump administration has

42:25

been around for three years. Now so

42:27

much has gotten done. I'm actually exhausted

42:30

by it, which is good. I guess

42:32

that's what your father said when he

42:34

talked about being tired of winning. I'm

42:36

not tired yet, please. Don't stop the

42:39

winning. But I see all of these

42:41

things happening. And I think many people

42:43

did not expect. tariff threats against Colombia,

42:45

for instance, for not taking our criminal

42:48

migrants that were deporting. I think they

42:50

did not suspect really serious tariffs being

42:52

levied on China. I think they did

42:55

not suspect renaming bodies of water, you

42:57

know, such as the Gulf of America.

42:59

I don't think they expected this rapidity,

43:01

and part of the reason why it

43:04

was so important to do that is

43:06

so that your father's administration can show

43:08

there is a new sheriff in town,

43:10

we are not afraid to wield power,

43:13

we are the global hedgeamans. You might

43:15

like that, you might not like that,

43:17

but we are that, and we are

43:20

not going to squander this opportunity. In

43:22

part, it makes me think there was

43:24

a certain providence to Joe Biden, assuming

43:26

the presidency for four years, allegedly. I

43:29

don't know, I haven't seen a lot

43:31

of evidence that he was all that

43:33

actively the president. But in a way,

43:35

there was a kind of providence, because

43:38

the speed and intensity with which the

43:40

second Trump administration has been able to

43:42

hit the ground running, the clarity of...

43:44

political vision is not just an ordinary

43:47

second term. This feels to me like

43:49

a major shift and it's not just

43:51

me. Look at all the tears that

43:54

were being shed in Munich last week.

43:56

A lot of other people are sensing

43:58

that too. Yeah, and I think Maybe

44:00

that's what we needed. I will say,

44:03

hey, you know, the last four years

44:05

under Biden, it's sort of like addiction,

44:07

right? Maybe you have to hit rock

44:09

bottom to understand what you have, to

44:12

understand just how fragile it all is

44:14

and how one dolt, like Joe Biden

44:16

and, you know, a couple radical leftists

44:19

in his cabinet. can literally destroy it.

44:21

We also had those four years to

44:23

figure out who was actually really good.

44:25

So you're not just rolling over the

44:28

16 to 20 team, you know, that

44:30

we just didn't know any better when

44:32

we got in. Now they're getting things

44:34

done to the tune that, you know,

44:37

guys like James Carville are like, don't

44:39

worry, just wait, they can't keep this

44:41

up forever and we can get ahead

44:44

of the narrative again. It's like, by

44:46

the time they get outraged and all

44:48

the talking points, about anymore. This is

44:50

the really important point too about transparency

44:53

and giving the voters in a democracy,

44:55

real ample notice of what you're going

44:57

to do, is that when the supposedly

44:59

controversial picks for the administration came up,

45:02

Tulsa Gabbard, Bobby Kennedy, Cash Patel, even

45:04

Elon Musk over at Doge, no one

45:06

could seriously argue that this was a

45:08

big surprise. Your father was campaigning with

45:11

these people. I was at the Madison

45:13

Square Guard. But they tried to, right?

45:15

Just like I didn't elects George Soros

45:18

or Alex Soros or any one of

45:20

the other, you know, like, but the

45:22

difference is my father campaigned with them.

45:24

I campaigned with them all numerous times.

45:27

I mean, the American public knew who

45:29

would be in charge of various things

45:31

because we made it very clear. Unlike

45:33

sort of the shadow government of the

45:36

Democrats, the big funders there, no one

45:38

voted for any of those people and

45:40

they certainly don't campaign with them. They

45:43

just take their money and run on

45:45

their radical agenda doing whatever they wish.

45:47

Exactly. The Democrats, they hide the ball

45:49

on the real powers there. But when

45:52

your father goes out, really not beholden

45:54

to anybody, one of the advantages of

45:56

running after a very successful business career,

45:58

is he can say, look. Look, look

46:01

Republican squish senators, you don't want to

46:03

confirm Bobby Kennedy, you don't want to

46:05

confirm Telsey Gabbard. Well, the American people

46:07

voted for them. Or he can say, hey

46:09

look establishment media, you're trying to raise a

46:12

ruckus about Elon Musk going in and cleaning

46:14

up the government. I campaigned with him at

46:16

dozens of rallies. The American people voted for

46:18

him. So you can lie and pretend that

46:20

this is some big surprise. But you're going

46:22

to do so at your own peril. You

46:24

and the media, the peril of your ratings

46:27

collapsing, which they have for the liberal media.

46:29

And you squish Republicans in the Senate. Good

46:31

luck running for re-election. Because the American people

46:33

clearly voted for this. OK? And if you

46:35

want to stymie that now, and you want

46:37

to go side with the swamp and the

46:39

Democrats and the careerists in the bureaucracy and

46:41

the bureaucracy in the bureaucracy in the bureaucracy

46:43

in the bureaucracy, we're. be my guest you're

46:45

not going to be around Washington very

46:47

long yeah you're not going to be on the

46:49

right side of history you know we had

46:52

to deal with a couple of those early

46:54

on in sort of the you know administrative

46:56

process just getting those through and I think

46:58

we sent that finally conservatives finally you know

47:00

sort of got together and be like okay

47:02

he won there's a mandate popular vote all

47:04

the swing states yada yada yada he was

47:06

very clear who we wanted there was some

47:09

you know squishy Republican senators senators that weren't

47:11

going going going that way I think that

47:13

very You know guys like you me bunch

47:15

of the other people we just sort of

47:17

went after him and everyone else followed suit

47:19

I I think that that rained in a

47:22

lot of insanity that allowed us to get

47:24

Tulsi that allowed us to get Pete Higgs

47:26

at that allowed us to get Bobby Kennedy

47:28

Again all people that were you know quite

47:30

vocal and you know always part of that

47:33

team the next one obviously we got to

47:35

get across the line is cash Patel. I'm

47:37

seeing the feed just blow up about that

47:39

because I think you need someone who actually

47:42

understands those things because I think if there's

47:44

a department that the American people were frustrated

47:46

with before it was all exposed before all

47:48

this information was out there you know

47:50

no one even half the people probably

47:53

watching had no idea what USAID even

47:55

did until about three weeks ago but

47:57

what happened at the FBI the weaponization

47:59

of the DOJ and the FBI against

48:01

ordinary Americans. We talked about concerned mothers

48:04

at PTA meetings, but you know, the

48:06

guy drove through a Christmas parade, you

48:08

know, well that guy was on our

48:10

watch list, but we couldn't do anything

48:13

because he checked a couple boxes. I

48:15

mean, that's next, and I mean, I

48:17

imagine we're going to find a lot

48:19

there. I totally agree. And what you're

48:22

seeing here with what Cash Patel is

48:24

going to do, I'm quite confident, what

48:26

Tulsa Gabbard and Bobby Kennedy and the

48:29

whole admin are doing, is in many

48:31

ways not charting some totally novel course.

48:33

In many ways it's just restoring what's

48:35

normal. I so loved when your father

48:38

the other day made the Libs heads

48:40

explode because he tweeted out a quote

48:42

attributed to Napoleon, which is that the

48:44

good of society is no man. violates

48:47

the law when he is saving a

48:49

country. And this line from Napoleon echoes...

48:51

much older political wisdom coming from Cicero

48:54

in on the law who says that

48:56

the good or the health of the

48:58

people is the supreme law or should

49:00

be the supreme law. It's actually used

49:03

as an epigraph in John Locke's second

49:05

treatise of government. In other words, the

49:07

Libs lose their minds, big headlines, Trump

49:09

is going to make himself Napoleon, it's

49:12

the end of the Constitution, and what

49:14

do they find? They find out that

49:16

actually your father is articulating the words

49:19

of classical political thinkers, enlightenment political thinkers.

49:21

the very men who based our constitution,

49:23

or rather who served as the basis

49:25

of our constitution, when our framers actually

49:28

put it together. You know, it even

49:30

reminds me of when JD Vance was

49:32

lecturing Margaret Brennan about the order of

49:34

charity, the Ordo Amories, and the Libs

49:37

all lost their minds, they had no

49:39

idea where it came from, that this

49:41

was a basic concept, not only in

49:44

Christianity, but in our political tradition. And

49:46

it's so refreshing because you recognize how

49:48

much of this... modern liberal order is

49:50

totally foreign to how things used to

49:53

be in this country. We used to

49:55

have a pretty normal country back. when

49:57

we were flourishing. And so every time

49:59

the liberals' heads explode, because your father

50:02

tweets something, or more importantly, does something,

50:04

I think a lot of people are

50:06

just waking up to the fact that,

50:09

oh wait, that thing that Trump is

50:11

talking about, that thing that Trump is

50:13

doing, that's actually what used to be

50:15

normal in America. Maybe we should get

50:18

back to that. Yeah, it seems like

50:20

their extremism hasn't gotten us much other

50:22

than failure, poverty, poverty, and war. Maybe

50:24

we should go back to that old

50:27

way in terms of political think. I

50:29

mean, it seems to make a lot

50:31

of sense, but, you know, the media,

50:34

again, they're losing their minds over everything.

50:36

You saw, you know, this week, the

50:38

AP is melting down over being taken

50:40

out of the White House pool. They're

50:43

writing letters complaining about it. You know,

50:45

they're going nuts. They're trying to get

50:47

the other media. You know, what do

50:49

you make of the press briefing so

50:52

far? Because, because, again, it's all available.

50:54

company that's been activated, that's done, a

50:56

lie, they've lied, they've weaponized themselves against

50:59

one side. Why do they deserve to

51:01

sit in that? Versus, I don't know,

51:03

maybe a podcaster who is a much

51:05

bigger following could objectively be proven to

51:08

be far more accurate over the last

51:10

few years. There's no First Amendment right

51:12

to be able to just get in

51:14

the Oval Office. You can report on

51:17

everything the way everyone else does. That's

51:19

right. You have to ask yourself. What

51:21

is the point of these briefings? Be

51:24

they from the briefing room or be

51:26

they from the Oval Office? The point

51:28

is to inform the American people of

51:30

what the government is doing and to

51:33

hear the questions from the American people

51:35

for the government. If the media are

51:37

not fulfilling that intermediary role, then there's

51:39

no purpose in them being there. The

51:42

last time that I was on this

51:44

show with you, Don, we made a

51:46

little bit of news because I suggested

51:49

kicking some of these establishment outlets out

51:51

and you said, well, not to get

51:53

too out ahead of our. is here

51:55

but stay tuned because that's exactly what's

51:58

going to happen and I have to

52:00

say I had suggested kicking out the

52:02

New York Times or the Washington Post

52:04

and what the White House has done

52:07

is even better than that. because the

52:09

New York Times and the Post have

52:11

their own problems. But the Associated Press

52:14

is the biggest purveyor of fake news

52:16

in the establishment media today. Just through

52:18

the AP style guide alone, just in

52:20

recent years, the AP style guide has

52:23

insisted on Woke transgender pronouns, has actually

52:25

called to eliminate the use of the

52:27

word Woke as a pejorative, the Associated

52:29

Press style guide has called to capitalize

52:32

the letter B when talking about black

52:34

people, but lower case the letter W

52:36

when talking about white people. Yeah, just

52:39

so just so everyone's clear. Maybe give

52:41

them a little bit of understand, right.

52:43

The AP ag- a bunch of news

52:45

from all over, then they write it

52:48

as though it's their own. But they

52:50

put out a guide as to how

52:52

to, you know, how to do journalism.

52:54

And the guide is like a manifesto

52:57

of the most insane views of the

52:59

radical left. You know, anything that's conservative

53:01

has to be minimized, not even talked

53:04

about it, that's not in good taste,

53:06

anything that's woke. articulated, elevated, put out

53:08

there very differently. I mean, these are

53:10

the supposed to be arbiters and aggregators

53:13

of news that have done exactly the

53:15

opposite. They've pushed an agenda in each

53:17

and every story published across their board

53:19

because if you don't follow the style

53:22

guide, you don't get to actually report

53:24

there and they won't cover it. Exactly.

53:26

You know, in many ways it's much

53:29

more insidious than what the New York

53:31

Times does. At this point, most people

53:33

know the New York Times is a

53:35

left-wing paper, so you know that going

53:38

in, you know what to expect. But

53:40

as you point out here, Don, the

53:42

AP is establishing the rules for writing

53:44

journalism. And as I point out in

53:47

my book, speechless, the way that the

53:49

left has most thoroughly... controlled our political

53:51

order is by controlling language through political

53:54

correctness or wokeness through the schools through

53:56

the establishment media through style guides like

53:58

that of the associated press and there's

54:00

has been so insane demand the journalists

54:03

refer to men as women when the

54:05

right finally exposed critical race theory and

54:07

its insidious effects on society and education.

54:09

The AP style guide said stop using

54:12

this acronym, CRT, stop please if you're

54:14

going to speak about it only do

54:16

so in a laudatory way. I mean

54:19

just totally ridiculous. So they have no

54:21

right to be there in the briefing.

54:23

I think the other one was you

54:25

can't refer to illegal aliens as illegal

54:28

because... Illegal is strictly reserved for people

54:30

who broke laws, but you know, obviously coming

54:32

into the country illegally is not breaking a

54:34

law in their mindset. So again, they're trying

54:37

to soften the reality of what's happened on

54:39

one way and then trying to make it

54:41

much harsher anytime a conservative does anything even

54:44

remotely. It's blown so far out of proportion

54:46

that that's how they've manipulated so much. So

54:48

I love that they threw them out. They

54:50

probably should never come back. I'd love it.

54:53

I totally agree. It was an

54:55

important statement and it's good in

54:57

itself. You know, it means that

54:59

the second administration for

55:01

your father is coming in and saying,

55:03

look, we have a mandate here and

55:05

we're going to take that seriously even

55:08

on the littlest things. I loved when

55:10

your father said, the penny costs two

55:12

pennies to produce. That's crazy. We're going

55:15

to get rid of the penny. We're

55:17

going to save money. even when

55:19

it comes to counting pennies. It

55:21

reminds me of a line from

55:23

the first season of the crown,

55:25

which is the head butler in

55:27

the royal household says that it's

55:29

in the little things that the

55:31

rot begins. If you really want

55:33

to refresh an institution, you need

55:35

to pay attention to the really

55:37

tiny little things, that little federal

55:39

agency that no one's paying attention

55:42

to, the little pennies, and especially

55:44

the words that we are using.

55:46

You've got to send that message.

55:48

the bow to the establishment media.

55:50

If they still had a big audience,

55:52

it'd be one thing. If they were

55:54

still doing good journalism, it would be

55:56

one thing. But neither of those things

55:58

are true right now. And so it's

56:00

very important to kick these people while

56:02

they're down. Not in a cruel way,

56:04

not in an unjust way, but we

56:07

have to kick them while they're down.

56:09

They're down for a reason. They have

56:11

failed in their jobs. They have failed

56:13

the American people. The American people have

56:15

looked for an alternative and it's incumbent

56:17

upon us to give it to them.

56:19

Yeah, because I mean, it's interesting because

56:21

obviously Biden was an absentee president as

56:23

at best, right, nowhere to be found,

56:25

and the media just sort of... went

56:27

along with it. They were fine. He's

56:29

not in company. He's not this. Despite

56:31

numerous incidents, you know, falling upstairs, falling

56:33

downstairs, can't remember anyone's name, walking off

56:36

a stage, shaking hands with invisible people.

56:38

I mean, now my father's everywhere and

56:40

the media can't keep up. I think

56:42

part of this is like, they just

56:44

don't like people working too much. I

56:46

mean, that's why they're against coming back

56:48

into the workforce. They don't want to

56:50

have to work long hours because he

56:52

does for the American people. Certainly it

56:54

is. I loved when Elon said, look,

56:56

we're not going to fire everyone in

56:58

the government, but you guys need to

57:00

come back to the office, okay? The

57:02

majority of you aren't even showing up

57:05

to the office anymore. This would not

57:07

pass muster in any kind of middle-class

57:09

job, so sorry, you've actually got to

57:11

show up to work. They can't really

57:13

keep up with it. I think you've...

57:15

honed in on an important point as

57:17

we're talking about all the vices of

57:19

the establishment media. One of them is

57:21

they are lazy. They really are profoundly

57:23

lazy and they've been able to coast

57:25

because they've had institutional power and now

57:27

that power is being taken away from

57:29

them and it's really revealing them. Also

57:31

their old tricks don't work. The fact

57:34

that the left wants to call your

57:36

father a Nazi or even in those

57:38

viral exchanges you were showing earlier when

57:40

I was on the surrounded podcast, you

57:42

know, some girl comes up to me

57:44

and says, I'm going to call you

57:46

a fascist. And I thought, OK, all

57:48

right. I used to say this about

57:50

racism, so they moved racism to Nazism.

57:52

It's like sort of the easy button

57:54

of the left, right? It's like, if

57:56

I can't win an argument, I'm just

57:58

going to call that. Even if you're

58:00

talking about basic things, you know, and

58:03

the problem is, you know, I'm not

58:05

saying there's not racism left in the

58:07

world. It's just not like the cause

58:09

of and solution for all of life's

58:11

problems. I mean, it's a minor thing,

58:13

but it is something that happens and...

58:15

when you use it as the excuse

58:17

to win any argument that you can't

58:19

otherwise win, the only people you actually

58:21

do a real disservice to are those

58:23

that are actually afflicted by it, because

58:25

now someone hears racist or Nazi, and

58:27

they just kind of roll their eyes

58:29

and move on, it doesn't have any

58:32

effect, because everything has been racist. Everyone's

58:34

a Nazi. It doesn't meet anything, and

58:36

you actually hurt those, you know, and

58:38

I don't think it's a lot of

58:40

people, throughout the world, who are actually

58:42

affected by these things. And by the

58:44

way, good luck calling your father or

58:46

magga broadly racist. You know, he got...

58:48

and historic proportion of the black vote

58:50

of the Hispanic vote for a Republican.

58:52

So good luck, it's totally ridiculous. It's

58:54

another reason that I love your father's

58:56

Napoleon tweet the other day is they

58:58

say, you know, you're an authoritarian or

59:00

whatever, and he kind of jokes about

59:03

it. I read that tweet, I thought

59:05

this joke, oh yes, I'm Napoleon now,

59:07

you know, what kind of headlines are

59:09

you going to write? Nobody believes this

59:11

stuff anymore. Well Michael, where can we

59:13

watch the Michael nose show as well

59:15

as some of the other stuff that

59:17

you were doing? Because I think people

59:19

may want to see these full interviews,

59:21

I mean just for the entertainment and

59:23

value of it all, you know, what

59:25

else can preview? And I know we

59:27

still have to get that Mayflower cigar

59:29

together sometime. Well, you can find my

59:32

show on Michael Noll's YouTube channel on

59:34

the Daily Wire, of course, all around

59:36

the interwebs. You can find the show

59:38

that I just sat down with that

59:40

is going viral over at Jubilee. It's

59:42

the surrounded podcast. But most important of

59:44

all, you can find the cigars at

59:46

Mayflower cigars.com. And Don, you're a busy

59:48

guy. You're juggling about, by my count,

59:50

like half a dozen jobs right now.

59:52

But whenever you get a breather, let

59:54

me know I will make sure the

59:56

humidor is stocked. I look forward to

59:58

it my friend Michael. Knowles, thank you

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to support programming like this. That's another

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way we fight back together. So check

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them out. Appreciate all of you guys and

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we will see you on Thursday.

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