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Some stories are so profound, so

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unimaginable, that they stay with us

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forever. The Unthinkable

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is the latest podcast from

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Casefile Presents, hosted by two

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of Australia's leading voices in

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true crime, Vicki Petradis and

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Emily Webb. The

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series delves into tales of

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ordinary people who have faced

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extraordinary, often devastating events and

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emerged forever changed. From

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survivors of traumatic events to

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victims of relentless stalking and

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even those who've confronted some

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of Australia's most notorious criminals,

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The Unthinkable explores the depths

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of human resilience. In

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each episode, guests share their journey,

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pain and wisdom, giving a voice

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to experiences many of us would

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struggle to comprehend. The

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first two episodes feature the incredible

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story of Louisa Hope, a woman

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who survived Sydney's Lint Cafe siege

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in 2014 and are out

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now wherever you get your podcasts.

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Episodes will drop weekly after that, so

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be sure to follow The Unthinkable so

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you don't miss an episode. Now

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stay tuned to hear the trailer. I

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can hear the explosions, I didn't know what was happening. I'm

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Vicki Petradis. And I'm

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Emily Webb. We are true

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crime authors and podcasters with

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a long history of

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interviewing people who've experienced

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unthinkable events. The next

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guy had this Molotov cocktail in his hand and

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I just saw him lighting it. Are

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you listening? Pay attention. We're at Lint

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Cafe. A gentleman has taken us hostage.

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He's got a gun and he's got a bomb. He

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turned towards me and he had this

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demonic look on his face and

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just came at me. These stories will

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have you on the edge of your seats. My

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shield man wasn't there anymore. It was me

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by myself. I had no protection. We

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are going to die now. Who could get out

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of that situation? I could hear the explosions, I

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didn't know what was happening. It's just

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a matter of self-preservation, get myself out of

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there. We get to ask questions that most

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would never ask. And because of

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that, we get told things

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most would never hear about. And

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I couldn't get my gun out, I'm sort of

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fighting with him. He's stabbing me. Maybe he just

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hit his head on the ground when he went

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down, maybe he's okay. I saw that

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she wasn't in a very good way. Yeah, this

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will be difficult for me to talk about. What

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draws us to these stories is

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the strength of the people coming out the

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other side of what they've been through. But

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it was eight years before I processed

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what happened in the siege. There is

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a way, it's not

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going to be easy. You might have pitfalls,

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but you've got to keep going. I'm not

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going to let it beat me or define

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me. So even though these

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are stories of the unthinkable, they

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are also stories of hope. You've

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got to be the best for you first before you can

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be the best for someone else.