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Crime Today and the Hidden Killers

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podcast. A

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Murdaugh may be getting a new

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murder trial. One of the

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jurors admitting Becky Hill did

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in fact influence her

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the channel later in the day. But

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right now here's that compelling 10 minutes

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of testimony which got fairly

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contentious between the attorneys for

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Alec Murdaugh and the judge as

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one of the jurors in fact admits that yes,

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the influence of Becky Hill did play a

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role on her decision of guilt

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against Alec Murdaugh. Take a listen. Here,

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I will ask you some questions and

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there are no right or wrong answers. The

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truth is

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what I seek and that

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is the truth of what you experience

3:10

in relation to these questions at the

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state versus Murdock trial. You

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rendered a verdict on Marx II, 2023.

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That verdict was read in open court

3:26

by the fourth person of the jury.

3:30

And then the court said this,

3:32

Madam Foreign Lady and members of

3:35

the jury, if that is your

3:37

verdict of each and every jury,

3:40

let it be known by raising your hand

3:43

the transcript then indicates that the

3:45

jury was confined. The

3:48

jury was individually polled and

3:51

each was asked was that your verdict.

3:54

Each juror answered yes. Each

3:57

juror was then asked is that

3:59

your verdict? still your verdict and

4:02

each juror answered

4:04

yes. Was that

4:06

an accurate statement about your verdict

4:08

at that time? Yes

4:16

ma'am. Right.

4:19

Was your verdict based entirely

4:21

on the testimony, evidence,

4:24

and law presented to you in

4:26

this case? Yes

4:30

ma'am. Did

4:33

you hear Ms. Becky Hill

4:35

make any comment about this

4:37

case before your verdict? Yes

4:39

ma'am. If yes,

4:42

what did Ms. Hill say? To

4:50

watch his actions. To

4:52

watch his actions? What

4:54

else? To

4:57

watch him closely. To watch him

4:59

closely? Anything

5:02

else you remember? There

5:16

is, but I can't remember. Okay, that's

5:18

fine. And was

5:22

your verdict on March the

5:24

2nd, 2023, in any

5:27

way, influenced

5:31

in any way with any communications by

5:33

the Department of Court Becky Hill in

5:35

this case? Yes

5:39

ma'am. Yes. Alright. Was

5:41

your verdict influenced

5:44

in any way by the communications

5:47

of the Department of Court in

5:49

this case? Yes ma'am. And

5:51

how was it influenced? To

5:59

me, it's not that I'm not. She

6:05

made it seem like Peeve was already guilty. All

6:07

right. And I understand that. That's

6:10

the tenor of the remarks she made. Did

6:13

that affect your finding of

6:15

guilty in this case? Yes,

6:21

ma'am. All

6:23

right. Be

6:29

at ease. Those

6:35

are my questions that are submitted to the

6:37

juror. Are there any reactions,

6:40

further questions, and so forth? If there are,

6:42

and you would like to voice them, I

6:44

can ask the juror to retire to the

6:46

jury room. Just

6:50

tell me whether I need to do that. All

6:55

right. We

7:12

need to put some things on the record. Aye. Aye.

7:15

Thank you, juror. Can we hear the room, please? Yes,

7:25

ma'am. Your Honor, in the affidavit that

7:27

was given by this particular juror, paragraph

7:30

ten says,

7:34

I have questions about Mr. Murdoch's guilt, but I vote guilty because

7:38

I felt pressured by the other

7:40

jurors. All

7:43

right. Mr. Lawrence. Yes, ma'am.

7:47

Your Honor, in the affidavit

7:50

that was given by this particular juror,

7:52

paragraph ten said, I have questions about

7:54

Mr. Murdoch's guilt, but I vote guilty

7:57

because I felt pressured by the other

7:59

jurors. We would request

8:01

an inquiry as to that, which is

8:03

how in this mission was filed, she

8:06

expressed the basis for her verdict, which

8:08

obviously the answer is a little different

8:10

now. So we would request a

8:13

brief inquiry from the court as to that specific issue.

8:16

Thank you, Your Honor. Is this

8:18

your officer's name? Your Honor, as to. Two

8:25

things. First thing is, he is correct. She

8:27

gave it after David. We

8:29

would ask Your Honor to let

8:31

her read her affidavit to

8:33

refresh her memory. She said

8:36

other things, they're very detailed in here. We'd ask

8:38

you to, and let me hand up to the

8:40

court, a copy of her

8:42

affidavit and ask you to.

8:44

Never yet or. Before

8:54

she's asked, any. What I have

8:56

here from Mr. Waters for the

8:58

record, Mr. Waters. What

9:01

I've been handed for the record is something. Now

9:06

referred to as Z. It

9:10

was taken August

9:12

the 14th, 2023. It

9:15

was sworn before

9:18

Holly Miller, paralegal for

9:20

Mr. Kootenaiem, and

9:23

he would like for me to

9:25

give that to the

9:28

juror and ask her to read it and then ask

9:30

her about it. I'm inclined to do that, but I'm

9:32

going to hear from you first. Your

9:35

Honor, again, if they want to refresh the

9:37

recollection, that's fine with the state. So

9:40

we have no objection to that. It

9:42

will be done. Your Honor, also

9:45

we would ask that you not ask

9:47

the question that Mr. Waters asks you

9:51

to ask because it violates 606B. It

9:55

provides upon an inquiry of the

9:57

validity of a verdict or indictment, a juror may not

10:00

testify to the effect of anything upon that

10:02

or any other jurors mind or emotions what

10:04

was the question he asked? That

10:07

the last if you do that affidavit Paragraph

10:09

10 your own paragraph 10 in the

10:11

very affidavit she said she was influenced

10:13

by other jurors Yeah, I'm gonna ask

10:15

her about that. I'm gonna give

10:17

her the affidavit and then I'm gonna question her about

10:19

it And we would for the record Indicate

10:22

that we object to that under 6060 Your

10:25

honor from our perspective that she's put it in

10:27

your order to ask me to have her look

10:30

at this affidavit But you telling me I can't

10:32

question about I deny I deny that objection If

10:35

it's something that's inadmissible, you should not ask her about

10:37

it No, you want me to admit it and have

10:39

her examine on it I want you

10:41

to have her read it to her friend Your main

10:43

reason is not to Mr. Hawquist

10:46

is re-equivalent about things that I'm not going to

10:48

take time to quibble about My ruling

10:50

is pursuant to your request I

10:53

am going to allow the juror

10:55

to examine her affidavit and

10:57

then i'm going to question her about That's

11:00

my ruling your objection is overruled

11:04

For the record, I just want to know your

11:06

honor just for the record you noted 606 I hear you noted In

11:12

no way waving anything or opening

11:14

any door by asking you for

11:16

that her That's a higher court

11:18

than me to decide Understand

11:21

that that's why I want to make sure when they

11:23

read this transcript. There's no confusion I'm not asking you

11:25

to put that into evidence I'm

11:27

asking you to ask the world I

11:29

can question the juror about something and

11:31

not put it into evidence You can't

11:33

have your cake and eat it too.

11:35

Mr Harpettling you could have been very

11:37

satisfied with the answers that were already

11:39

given but you have chosen to to

11:43

ask about Denied

11:47

Your honor all the time

11:49

we ask witnesses to examine a fire

11:51

station. Mr. Hawquist, I may now please

11:53

take your seat All

11:57

right, bring me your seat I

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asked you previously, was your verdict on

12:21

the marks of second 2023 influenced in

12:23

any way that

12:25

communications through Becky

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Hill, the corporate court? You

12:31

answered that question yes. In

12:34

light of what you said in

12:36

the affidavit, which

12:38

is I had questions about Mr. Murak's guilt

12:41

but voted guilty because I felt pressured

12:43

by the other jurors, is

12:46

that answer that I just read a

12:48

more accurate statement of how you felt?

12:50

Yes. So

12:57

you do stand by the affidavit? Yes ma'am. Very

12:59

good. Thank you. All right. You

13:02

may go to the jury room and

13:05

let me just explain to you what

13:07

the procedure will be. I'm calling the

13:09

rest of the jurors of course one

13:11

by one. When I'm finished with that

13:13

I will bring you out as a group one more time

13:15

and then you are free to leave. You don't have to

13:17

stay. Okay? Very

13:19

good. You may go to the jury room. Before

13:23

you this juris excuse but after she steps out

13:25

I'd like to address the court. You

13:28

may be excused. That's the latest in

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