2:00

heard a lot of testimony about Jodi's police

2:02

interview on November 16th. McGinnis

2:05

painted a grim picture of Jodi. And

2:08

without a recording of the interview, the jury

2:10

was left to make a determination on Jodi's

2:12

guilt based solely on McGinnis' version of the

2:14

story. We heard

2:16

about Jodi changing their story regarding certain

2:18

elements, like whether or not they

2:20

had any personal issues with Mario. And

2:23

we also heard that according to McGinnis, Jodi

2:25

said in the interview that they got off

2:28

work two hours before the time reflected on

2:30

the timesheet. McGinnis

2:32

says that Jodi told him that they got off

2:34

work at 10pm and arrived home at 11.02pm exactly.

2:39

And of course we know that the timesheet that

2:41

the jury never saw shows Jodi clocking out of

2:43

work at Dylos at 12.05am. Most

2:47

of you listening have been around long enough to

2:49

know that the last thing any defense attorney ever

2:52

wants to do is to put

2:54

their client on the stand. But

2:56

after McGinnis' testimony, Jodi really had

2:58

no other choice. The

3:01

only way for them to get their version of

3:03

the story on the record and out to the

3:05

jury was to testify in

3:07

their own defense. And

3:09

that's exactly what Jodi did and that's what

3:11

we're going to cover in today's episode. The

3:20

first 14 pages of Jodi's testimony relate to

3:22

their movements on November 13th, the day

3:24

of the robbery. All

3:27

the testimony about the robbery is super odd and kind

3:29

of weird to even be reading. So

3:31

you have Officer Sturgill, who I think

3:33

we've proven is lying on the stand

3:35

about identifying Jodi at the scene. I

3:38

really think that we proved that beyond any measurable

3:40

doubt a few episodes ago. But

3:43

we also have Jodi lying on the stand about

3:45

not being there. Jodi

3:47

was there during the robbery, but

3:49

Sturgill didn't know that and fabricated

3:51

a story to put them there

3:53

and Jodi, who again was there,

3:55

testified that they weren't there. I

3:59

think the robbery discussion Well,

32:00

when I first came here, see, I had

32:02

to work from 10 o'clock that morning all

32:05

the way until what, 12 o'clock that night?

32:08

And I had to be at Bob Evans at 10 o'clock the

32:10

next day. So I'm

32:12

like, I know I don't really got time to sleep.

32:14

I'm already wore out. I'm tired, you know what I'm

32:16

saying? So when, as soon as

32:18

I came in, I didn't even take a shower

32:20

or nothing that night. I just took

32:22

off my clothes. The only thing I had on was a

32:25

pair of socks and I just laid across the bed. She

32:28

yipping and yapping. You can't argue with her. She

32:30

she's always right. You know what I'm saying? There ain't no way

32:32

to argue with her. So she's on

32:34

the phone. So I already know

32:36

what that means. She's going out tonight. You know what

32:38

I'm saying? She talked to Nadia. End

32:41

quote. According to Jodi, that was

32:43

the end of their night. Shirell went

32:45

out with Nadia and Jodi went to sleep. Then

32:48

around 2.30 a.m. or so, Shirell came

32:50

in and told Jodi about the murder and

32:53

that people on the scene were saying that Jodi did

32:55

it. Jodi goes back to

32:57

sleep. Then in the morning, they drove by the crime scene

32:59

to see what was going on. Jodi

33:02

says they just saw cops and yellow tape up at the

33:04

scene. After driving by,

33:06

Jodi says they drove up to Carvale Miles

33:08

house. They say they were

33:10

planning to ask the Mileses what happened, but there was

33:12

a bunch of people outside and according

33:14

to Jodi, they decided not to get mixed up

33:16

in everything. They gave Carvale a little

33:19

wave and went on to work. Now

33:21

according to Carvale, Jodi had driven by and pointed

33:23

a finger at him and made some kind of

33:25

a threat. But Jodi says

33:28

that's not what happened. Although

33:30

like I said, they do confirm that they drove by

33:32

and made some kind of gesture to Carvale. But

33:35

according to Jodi, it wasn't a threat, they were just

33:37

waving, saying what's up. The

33:45

last part of the testimony that I want to

33:47

cover is the discussion around Jodi supposedly hiding the

33:49

car. Remember in McGinnis' testimony,

33:51

he said that Jodi refused to tell him

33:53

where the car was. We've

33:55

already gone over this part of the transcript in

33:58

a previous episode where Jodi explained that after