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The liberal globalist order is on
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its brink and awakening a new
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conservative age. I'm Dr. Steve Turley.
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Join me every day as
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we discover answers to today's
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toughest challenges and explore the
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revitalization of conservative civilization. This
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is Turley Talks. Explain
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that a little too. I was
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trying to figure this out at one point because
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I was trying to
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meet with insurance executives and say,
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look, I can show you that
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these particular medical interventions, certain of
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the vaccines were actually causing higher
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costs in the long run. The
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insurance companies were incentivizing people to
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take them. I
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went to them with data and an
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insurance executive said to me, listen, because
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I thought naively an
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insurance companies would make more money if
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people were right, their clients were out
1:03
here. They'd have to pay less
1:05
costs. I thought this is the one industry that
1:07
could save us from pharma because
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pharma, of course, obviously wants us all
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sick. The regulatory agencies want us all
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sick because they get
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more powerful. You'd
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think the insurance industry would be
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counterbalanced that because they
1:23
have to pay more money when people get
1:25
sick. This insurance executive said to me, he
1:29
said, listen, we get richer the
1:31
sicker people are. I said, how
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is that possible? He said, well,
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if you're Lloyd's of London and
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you insure against shipwrecks, is
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it better for you if there's one shipwreck a year
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or is it better for you if there's 500 shipwrecks
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a year? I said, why?
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He said, no, it's 500 because
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they're making money on the premiums and
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on the friction and the more catastrophes
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there are, the
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more paid. in premiums into that system,
2:01
and that's where they make their money. So
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it's actually better for the insurance industry that
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all of our kids are sick, and that's
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one of the contributors. Hey
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gang, it's me, Dr. Steve. Reality
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facing millions of Americans today is
2:15
alarming and unacceptable. So
2:18
on the one hand, insurance
2:20
premiums have increased unabated, making
2:23
it nearly impossible for hardworking
2:25
families to secure affordable health
2:28
coverage. But on the other,
2:30
and Robert Kennedy's been arguing this,
2:32
these huge insurance companies unashamedly
2:35
make more money from
2:38
actually keeping people sick.
2:41
It really is the classic tale
2:43
of corporations prioritizing profit over
2:46
people. These companies have orchestrated a
2:48
system that drives up costs for
2:50
everyone, effectively robbing us of our
2:52
dignity and leaving us to fend
2:54
for ourselves. And then to add
2:57
insult to injury, were it
2:59
not bad enough, these insurance
3:01
companies use those profits to
3:03
lobby politicians disgracefully pushing through
3:05
laws that serve their own
3:07
interests while neglecting the wellbeing
3:09
of the citizens they're supposed
3:11
to be serving. But
3:13
there is a very real, innovative,
3:16
and powerful solution to this. Joining
3:18
me today is my good friend,
3:20
and certainly a very good friend
3:22
to this channel, Chris Widener. Chris
3:24
is the official spokesman for Share
3:27
Right Health Sharing. Share Right is
3:29
owned and operated by Patriots who
3:31
are dedicated to caring about you,
3:33
your savings, and your health.
3:35
Chris, welcome back. Great to see you again,
3:37
my friend. Dr. Steve, I wish I saw
3:39
you in person more often, but this will
3:41
have to do for now. One of my
3:43
favorite people. Oh, right back at you, Chris.
3:45
And I'm really excited about what you're
3:47
doing here with Share Right. We'll talk about that in
3:50
a moment. But I was hoping if you could just
3:52
give us a little bit of, you
3:55
know, give us a sense of what's
3:57
really happening with these insurance companies today. You're on
3:59
the front. line to this. Why?
4:01
Let's start with the cost. Why
4:03
are so many Americans struggling to
4:06
pay their premiums? Because
4:08
they're expensive. I mean, if you
4:10
think about it this way, the difference
4:13
between insurance and health sharing is for
4:15
profit nonprofit health sharing is always based
4:17
in a 501 c three. So
4:19
there you go. I did a research
4:21
project when I was first getting involved with
4:23
share right where I looked at the top
4:25
insurance companies and I looked for the top
4:27
five biggest insurance companies, then I went and
4:30
I cross referenced how much money just their
4:32
CEOs make the average CEO
4:34
of those top five is $20 million
4:36
a year, the lowest was like 18
4:38
and a half, the highest was like
4:40
23.5. So think about that. Before
4:42
anybody gets any sort of coverage
4:45
or anything like that, the five
4:47
human beings take $100 million
4:50
for themselves. Dang.
4:53
And you got to pay for that somehow. So
4:55
they pass it along to their to their folks.
4:57
The other thing is, is they're giving money away
4:59
to Planned Parenthood, they're giving money away to Black
5:01
Lives Matter, they're giving money away to all sorts
5:03
of things that us conservatives, number one, we don't
5:06
want to pay for. And number
5:08
two, it's against our values. So
5:11
the other thing is, you know, I was on
5:13
a health sharing before I got involved with share,
5:15
right? I went in to get an MRI. And
5:17
I walk in and they say, Go talk to the lady,
5:19
we got to figure out how you're gonna pay for it.
5:21
And I said, Well, I'm using health sharing. And she goes,
5:23
Well, that's fantastic. Because if you had insurance, it would be
5:26
$5,000. But since
5:28
you're paying yourself health sharing,
5:30
it's only $2,500. And I thought, Oh, if somebody
5:34
else is paying it, you charge double
5:36
course that I'm telling you, folks, there's
5:38
so many reasons to get involved in
5:40
health sharing. The money
5:42
just, first and foremost, how much
5:45
money you can save, I'm sure we'll talk
5:47
about that in a few minutes. But number
5:49
two, you're not giving your money to woke
5:51
corporations. And you know, you've been
5:53
at the forefront along with Dinesh D'Souza
5:55
and some other great leaders in the
5:58
conservative movement talking about parallel economies. Health
6:00
sharing is the ultimate parallel economy because
6:03
of how much money you can pull
6:05
out of the system and put right
6:07
back into your own pocket. And
6:10
it's so good. I actually wrote a book
6:12
about health sharing a few years back. I
6:15
was part of a health sharing organization for
6:17
20 years. And
6:20
love it. Absolutely love it. And
6:22
absolutely, it is. It's
6:24
the wave of the future because of
6:26
the way it lowers costs across the
6:28
board, particularly for premiums, and therefore makes
6:32
health care more accessible to more and
6:34
more people. It's
6:37
best of both worlds. I wanted to
6:39
ask you something about what Robert Kennedy
6:42
has been saying. Well, I mean, obviously one of
6:44
the most exciting things to happen with the
6:46
Trump campaign is the Trump-Kennedy realignment
6:48
and the rise of maha, you
6:50
know, make America healthy again. But
6:53
Bobby has been arguing
6:57
about, he has noted that insurance
6:59
companies are actually
7:01
sort of in effect incentivized to keep
7:04
us sick. Would
7:06
you agree with that? And if you stand
7:08
on that? It's supply and demand.
7:11
If you spend $5,000 and now you're healthy,
7:14
they don't get any follow-ups. But
7:17
if you spend $5,000 and you're still not
7:19
healthy, then they get another $250,000, then they
7:21
get another $1,000, then they get another $5,000, then they get another $5,000. It
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perpetuates. They want you coming back
7:28
because every time you come back, it's more
7:30
money. It's really basically
7:32
pretty simple. It is.
7:35
And I'm just curious, how did we get here? You
7:37
know, I mean, how
7:40
was it, how was, how
7:42
did all of this, how was this allowed to
7:44
happen, I guess is my question. How did
7:47
we end up with such a
7:49
rotten system? It's corruption.
7:51
I mean, you know, whether you're talking about
7:53
war, why do we go to war? We
7:56
go to war because all the big, all
7:58
the big companies. Yeah,
8:00
they they buy themselves senators, you know, I
8:02
remember when my son was younger and he
8:04
would say how did they get away with
8:06
that? He said son, it's simple buy yourself
8:08
a senator. Yeah, I mean, it's really unfortunate,
8:10
but that's what happens So these guys they
8:12
slap ten thousand dollars down on every senator's
8:14
desk and then they say oh and by
8:16
the way We would love this to happen
8:18
and the senators go. Okay, and then they
8:20
do it You know
8:23
and and uh, it's corruption in
8:26
almost every industry war Yeah,
8:29
everything finance. Yeah everything
8:31
all the regulatory industries They've
8:33
completely overlapped now with the
8:35
industries. They're supposed the regulatory
8:37
oversights are Overlapping with the
8:39
industries. They're supposed to be
8:42
Regulating the revolving door
8:44
there and I love the ten thousand dollar James
8:46
O'Kee for you know, uh, formerly
8:49
of project Veritas, I think that was one of
8:51
the One of the sting
8:53
operations is one of the guys in the know. I
8:55
think it was a black rock I can't remember basically
8:57
said you could buy a senator for 10 grand. I
8:59
mean Remember
9:03
when trump was running against hillary and they said you
9:05
gave hillary 10 000. Oh, he said, of course I
9:07
did And he said
9:09
I wanted her to answer the phone when I
9:12
called I bought a Dollars
9:14
to get her to answer the phone And
9:17
then the brilliant follow-up is but they can't
9:19
buy me. I loved it. Oh,
9:21
yeah. No, it's just oh He completely took him
9:23
off guard. Yeah. All right, so we could clearly
9:25
see what the problem is But
9:28
we don't want to wallow. We don't whine
9:30
here. This is a no-wind channel. We're all
9:32
about well Whi, anyone
9:34
we like the wi any but
9:37
we're all about taking action So what hope
9:39
is there? Uh because as things
9:41
stand it does look like premiums are going
9:43
to continue to just keep going up and
9:45
up Don't they? Yeah. Yeah. Well,
9:47
you know, the answer is health sharing and it
9:49
is a part of the affordable care act It's
9:51
completely legal Um, it has
9:53
been vetted. It's it's allowed in the
9:56
the insurance companies don't necessarily want it
9:58
to happen Which is one of the reasons reasons
10:00
why they capped it. You can actually get health sharing for
10:02
your company as long as you have 49 employees
10:04
or less. They didn't want you to be able to do
10:06
it with 5,000 employees because then
10:09
you would take away a lot of insurance and
10:11
get companies to move over. But
10:13
it's so easy. By the way, there's that lobbying
10:15
we were talking about. Oh, exactly. Exactly. Well, we
10:17
know we have to kind of let them do
10:19
it, but let's put a cap on it so
10:22
they don't take all our business. You know, the
10:24
average family of four pays $2,000
10:26
a month for health insurance. The average
10:28
family of four with ShareRight
10:31
is $650 a month. That
10:34
is one more time, Chris. Say that what
10:36
that is. The average family of four, $2,000
10:38
a month with insurance with ShareRight. The average
10:40
family of four is $650. But
10:42
I've seen one guy, 40 years old, him and his
10:44
wife with two kids under the age of 18, they're
10:47
paying in Connecticut $2,800 a month. He did a cost analysis
10:52
with ShareRight, $805 a month. He's saving $1,995 a month
10:54
over what he was paying. Now
11:00
here's the interesting thing. It's $1,995 a month. Let's call it $2,000. That's $24,000 a
11:05
year that is not going to a
11:07
Woke Corporation. It's staying in his pocket,
11:10
but it's really not staying in his
11:12
pocket. He's spending it at the tire
11:14
center, at the restaurant, at his children's
11:17
dance lessons. So we're taking money away
11:19
from Woke Corporations and we're supporting our
11:21
local communities and growing the economy. It
11:24
is the ultimate parallel economy it
11:26
is. Answer. It
11:28
is. It is. And it's very innovative.
11:31
Again, that's the idea. You bring costs
11:33
down and then you're making healthcare more
11:35
accessible as a result. So explain to,
11:38
now a lot of people may not
11:40
know how health sharing works. It's not
11:42
insurance. It's different. And that's the key.
11:45
People have to, I had to get around that. I
11:47
said, oh wait, I don't have insurance. Well,
11:49
you have an alternative. Again, you
11:51
have a parallel to insurance here.
11:53
So can you explain what health
11:55
sharing is? Yeah. Imagine somebody
11:57
use this analogy. Imagine you went to a church.
12:00
you know, 30 years ago and you were sick
12:02
and you didn't have health insurance and you had
12:04
a $10,000 bill and the
12:06
pastor might stand up and say, Brother Joe and Sister Susie,
12:08
they've got a $10,000 bill. We'd like
12:10
to help them wipe that out. We're going to take an offering.
12:12
Everybody throws some money in the pot, they pay their bill off.
12:15
It's sort of, it's organized, it's organized
12:17
around that idea of sharing, right? At
12:19
a national level. Yeah, we agree to
12:21
share with one another. And so traditionally,
12:24
health sharing has been like, as I
12:26
mentioned, prior to share, right? I was
12:28
with one, I had the MRI, I
12:31
had to pay the bill, the $2,500, then I had to get the itemized
12:35
thing, I had to upload it and it took me
12:37
70 days to get my money
12:40
back. What share right has done is
12:42
they've tried to make it functionally like
12:44
insurance in that you get a card. Now,
12:46
when you go in, you hand them the
12:48
card, they have an ID number that is
12:50
registered with the government so that it allows
12:53
them to pay out. It's called a payee
12:55
number, I think. So you swipe your card,
12:57
the bill goes to share right. They
12:59
do all the negotiations, they get it down to
13:01
the lowest price and then they divvy it up,
13:03
you know, if you still have to pay some
13:05
or if they pay the whole thing or whatever.
13:07
And the beauty of it is share rights average
13:10
turnaround 13 days. The
13:12
average turnaround in health sharing has
13:14
historically been about 60 days.
13:16
So they try to make it feel a
13:18
lot more because one of the things is,
13:20
well, I'm going from health insurance and like
13:23
you said, you got to get your brain
13:25
around it. They wanted it to feel like
13:27
the process of health insurance, but it's really
13:29
health sharing. Yes. Yeah. Oh,
13:31
that's brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Yeah.
13:34
I did it, like I said, for about 20
13:37
years, never had an issue. It was wonderful.
13:39
We loved it. The
13:42
only reason why I'm not on now
13:44
is just because I'm in a different
13:46
company now that just doesn't have it.
13:48
So I'm a huge proponent of this
13:50
because again, I just think it is
13:52
its independence, its parallel economy. It's, you
13:54
know, I'm in, you know, Chris, I'm
13:56
in the Pennsylvania area. It's something the
13:59
Amish have doing for like
14:01
decades. Yeah. And
14:03
they're like the definition of a parallel economy.
14:05
Well, they don't even just do it with
14:07
healthcare. You need a barn? The whole
14:10
town comes with a barn. That's
14:12
just where it starts from. But that's
14:14
a great model for us nationally speaking.
14:17
Absolutely. Well, now
14:19
we got Elon going up
14:21
and rescuing NASA astronauts. So
14:24
we got our parallel economy
14:26
with satellites, parallel internet, everything,
14:29
parallel cash with Bitcoin, you name
14:31
it. So I think this fits right. Like
14:33
you said, it's right at the heart of
14:35
it, right at the center because the old,
14:37
you know, the old, the old saying, if
14:39
you got your health, you got everything. So
14:41
this is huge. So share, right? It's
14:45
relatively new. I mean, what's the what
14:47
sort of the, the health
14:49
sharing has been around for a long time.
14:51
Share right is part of a bigger company
14:53
that we partnered with in order to create
14:56
one just for conservatives. So we came up
14:58
with the name share, right? So it's a
15:00
subsidiary of a company that's already been in
15:02
business. They've paid out millions of dollars. They've
15:05
got tens of thousands of subscribers already.
15:07
So it's not like you're just firing
15:09
up a new, a new deal here.
15:11
They've been around for a while. They're
15:14
completely registered with the government. They're, they're
15:16
doing business in 47 states. Yeah, they're,
15:18
they're, they're totally up and running. They've
15:20
got your, you're supposed to have three months
15:22
worth of reserves. According to the affordable care
15:24
act, share, right has 11 months
15:27
of reserves, which
15:29
means they could never take in another nickel and
15:31
they could still pay everything off for 11 months.
15:34
So they're very deep pocketed. They operate
15:36
like conservatives, right? They save
15:38
their money and they protect their
15:40
money. They manage well, right? Yeah.
15:42
And that's another thing. Insurance companies,
15:45
like you always mentioned, they do
15:47
support liberal causes, abortions
15:49
and so forth. Share right? No, right?
15:51
Not no, no. Which is another reason
15:53
it's cheaper, right? If I don't have
15:55
to pay for all these things that
15:57
I don't believe in, you're never going
16:00
to pay for it. going to pay
16:02
for a transgender, you know, surgery. Right.
16:04
Right. You start deducting 40,000, 10,000, 5,000 out
16:06
of the system that
16:10
we don't have to pay for prices come
16:12
down. And since it's a nonprofit, it's not
16:14
like they're looking for an edge to find
16:16
more ways to make money. They're
16:19
trying to pass the savings along to everybody.
16:21
Yes. Yes. I love it. Gang.
16:23
This is so cool. I am so excited
16:25
about this. So thankful to Chris and
16:28
to share right again. If you don't
16:30
know, you can go onto Amazon. You can
16:32
see I wrote a book about healthcare cost
16:34
sharing, uh, organizations, uh, few years
16:37
back in terms of how it's the
16:39
wave of the future. It's
16:41
all about building up the parallel economy where
16:43
Patriots serve Patriots. That is exactly what share
16:45
right is all about. So if you want
16:47
to learn more about this, this is amazing
16:50
stuff. Click on the link description below or
16:52
scan the QR code on the screen and
16:55
find out immediately how much you can actually save
16:57
just by using share right today, again, like I
16:59
said, it's the wave of the future. You're going
17:01
to love it. And you know what, Steve, it
17:03
only takes 30 seconds. I guarantee you if your
17:05
fingers are fast enough, 15 seconds,
17:07
go there to that website. You put
17:10
in the age of the oldest. If you're
17:12
a couple, you put in the age of the oldest
17:14
person. So if you're 40 and your wife's 41, you
17:16
put her birthday in. If you're older,
17:18
you put your birthday in. And then how many
17:21
people that you want to have part of your
17:23
program and press the button, it will tell you
17:25
exactly what you're going to pay less
17:27
than 30 seconds. And so a lot of
17:30
people are struggling financially right now and they're
17:32
saying, how do I save more money? How
17:34
do I make more money? Folks, I'm telling
17:36
you, if you're a single guy or gal,
17:38
if you're just a couple, if you've got
17:40
kids, take 30 seconds because you'll
17:42
be amazed at how much money you'll put in your pocket.
17:45
It's unbelievable. And again, I could not
17:47
recommend organizations more than
17:49
health sharing and then share right is right
17:51
on the top of that. So again, click
17:53
on the link description below, scan the QR
17:56
code on the screen. I'm a major proponent
17:58
of this huge. believe in
18:00
this I think you're going to be very
18:02
excited never heard about health sharing before this
18:04
is going to blow your brain to love
18:06
it. Chris you're
18:09
the best man great seeing you again,
18:11
I'm the second best on this show
18:13
today. I'm second fiddle to doctor. I
18:17
would love to be second fiddle to doctor Steve any
18:19
day of the week. All
18:21
right back at you as good see the Chris.
18:26
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