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The liberal globalist order is
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at its brink and
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awakening a new conservative age.
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I'm Dr. Steve Turley.
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Join me every day as
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we discover answers to
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today's toughest challenges and explore
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the revitalization of conservative
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civilization. This is Turley Talks.
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Anthony Deal. Anthony Deal. You're awesome,
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dude. I've been looking up
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and reading on you. You're
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amazing. You were Maha before there was
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a Maha movement. You've been on the
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front lines of getting America in
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shape again. And you clear up
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a lot of misconceptions and the
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like. Can you give us
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just a quick aerial bio? I
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can do that. That will be
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quick. I'll do my best. Okay. So
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I grew up right here, Lancaster
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County, Pennsylvania, with good Amish cooking. Yeah.
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So I was the chubby kid.
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Ooh. So you grew up in an
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Amish family? No, not an Amish
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family, but Amish cooking. Amish cooking, yeah.
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Let's go. And so I
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went away to college, and instead of
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gaining the freshman 15, it was like
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the freshman 50. Oh, wow. Yeah, I
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bloomed up pretty big. And I can't
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tell you why. I just remember being in
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the dorm room with a bunch of my
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friends who were cutting weight for wrestling. I
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stepped on the scale. The last thing I
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had known, I was like, I'm about 220.
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I stepped on the scale. I was like,
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260. Dang. But this was a... is a
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bad two 60. Yeah. Right. Like I'd played
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sports, soccer and basketball, but I was pretty,
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you're pretty tall. Yeah. Six feet. Yeah. But
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so I should have been, but two 60
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is a lot. Two 60 is a lot.
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And so something snapped in my head and
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I said, this has to change. Yeah. I
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went to college at a private Christian school
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in Northern Wisconsin. So it
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was perpetually below zero. So
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I went to the gym the next morning and
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I said, I am going to run as
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many laps around this basketball court as I possibly
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can. And I made it six whole
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laps. And so I said,
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okay. That's when he cracked open the beer and
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ate some bacon. Well, it was a fundamentalist Baptist
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college. We did no beer. There you
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go. No, no, no. So I said,
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all right, cool. I'm going to add
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a lap every single day. That's
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good. And I knew nothing at the
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time of fitness or nutrition, but I
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knew just from the ether, like. Meat
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and veggies. That's good. Let's just do
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that. Now, at the time I
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was also traveling for the school on the
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weekends as part of kind of a
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ministry and drama team. So we worked with
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a lot of youth groups and it
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was like a recruiting function of the school.
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Yeah. So we're traveling around in churches
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and Christian schools and whatnot. So what do
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they do with college students when they
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come in? They feed them
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pasta and pizza and
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ice cream. So I said
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to myself, okay, I
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will. eat only
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meat and vegetables during
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the week. And then on the weekend, I will
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eat one plate of whatever is served to
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me. I'll eat ice cream, eat whatever. And then
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that's it. I'm just not going to get
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seconds. I'm going to go right back at it.
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So I did that and I ended up
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losing about 90 pounds in roughly six months. Wow.
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Now I went from chubby inactive kid to
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running literally every day of my life with no
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breaks. Right. Which actually is not wise. I
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wouldn't encourage you to do that. And I hurt
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my hip to the point where it was
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just painful to walk, kind of a grinding. And
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so I went to the doctor, got an
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MRI. He's like, hey, you're going to be fine,
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but you can't run for a while. I'm like, oh,
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man, I'm going to gain all this weight back.
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Right. So Buddy brought me into the weight room. going
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to start lifting with me. And how
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old are you around now? I'm about 19. Yeah, okay. I
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started lifting. I had never lifted before. And
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in my first year from 19 to 20.
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um i put on a bunch of weight
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good weight and i was repping over 300
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pounds on bench and i just realized like
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well that that inner chubby kid i was
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just always built to be strong so i
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kind of fell in love with the strength
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sport side of things and as i you
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know just fast forward a little bit
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to keep this story as short as possible
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um fell in love with lifting uh
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picked up the hobby of strong man started
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doing really well with that but what
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piqued my interest in metabolic health and health
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in general was My son,
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who is now 10, has autism. When
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he was diagnosed at two, my wife
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and I went down the rabbit hole
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of everything we could do to improve
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his health, improve his speech therapy, occupational
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therapy. One of the things that we
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did was pulled out all gluten and
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dairy, anything that was inflammatory. Now,
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initially, we just did this for Haddon,
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but that became very stressful in my
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life. So I just said, babe, listen,
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we're going to do this as a
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family. We're
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just going to eat things that have roots
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and a mother. That's the best piece of
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advice. Just eat real food. So does it
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have roots? Does it have a mother? And
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that was the only variable that
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changed at the time. And my strength
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and performance just went through the
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roof. Wow. And so that's many years
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ago now, but it's led to
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a mantra that I preach to my
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athletes and to all my coaches
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who work for me is, hey. If
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you are healthy at the cellular
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level, you're going to look and perform
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better. Right, right. Because back then
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in 2010 -ish era, 2012, all of
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that, if you were a strength athlete,
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it was eat everything in sight,
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get as strong as possible. We hadn't
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really connected the whole, hey, no,
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you should be metabolically healthy and that
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willingness. Was it Ronnie Coleman like
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on a diet of McDonald's? Didn't he
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just eat? Well, that's what
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I always saw on the TV. I'll
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tell you what, bodybuilding and strength are
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so different. They are, aren't they? They
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are. What is the difference? What's the
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key difference? Well, with bodybuilding, you're going
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to get strong. I mean, there's running
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strong. He squatted 800 pounds for a
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double. But that's not really
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that impressive in the powerlifting world. Right,
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right. So with bodybuilding, you are
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using food and weights like a hammer
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and a chisel to craft a
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physique. Wow. And so you don't, your
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aim isn't strength as an end.
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Your aim is muscle size. Right. Strength
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will be a byproduct. With strength
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sports, strength is the aim. Right. You
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will get some size as a
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byproduct, but you're not using the weights
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artistically to chisel that position. Proportioning
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and like a sculpture. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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With strength sports, do you want
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a squat, bench, deadlift, overhead press? Yeah.
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as much screw the calves i'm
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wearing jeans you didn't even see no
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no you look pretty pretty chisel
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i have to tell the story i
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have to tell the story because
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my wife she's i mean she knows
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a little bit of the fitness
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world but she's not like in it
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like and one of the most
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humbling moments of my life when i
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was competing in strongman i I
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finally cleaned and pressed a 200 -pound
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dumbbell with one hand over my head.
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Dude, that's crazy. And I get
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the video and I text it to
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my wife. And literally her reply
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is, but why do your calves look
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so small? But that's what wives
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are supposed to do. They're God's sandpaper.
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They just sanctify us. Did
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you get into the
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heyday, the golden day of
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the bodybuilding? Arnold
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and Lou Ferrigno and
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Colombo. So these guys,
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the 70s. pumping,
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pumping iron air out. I mean, I
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watched all that stuff. Yeah, they
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were, they were, I mean, they put
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it on the map, it seems.
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Of course. And then, and then it's
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right around the same time. I
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think the Soviet weightlifting world, was it
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Vasily Alexiev? That's right. Was he
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the first guy to lift over 500?
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Yeah, it's, yeah, you're going back
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in. Yeah, yeah, but that's, I just
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want to, yeah, when I was
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a kid, I was, I was. enamored
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they were like real life like
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titans yeah they were they were well
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and then strongman kind of came
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out of that there's a lot of
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history and legend with strongman like
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stone lifting goes back for millennia yeah
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especially in scandinavia regions yeah you
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know one of the thing the the
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iconic um who's a fell
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stone is a 409 pound stone
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that you can still go over and
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lift to this day and you
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walk you carry it around a sheep
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pen oh my and one of
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the strongman competitions right there yeah that's
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right and the idea is if
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you can make a full revolution around
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that thing you are labeled full
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sterker full strength uh but that was
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a big deal because if you
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could do that that earned you the
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best wages and the best positions
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on the ships yeah so there was
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an advantage to being strong historically
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when you look at um strength and
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competition for typically it's it's typically
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it's limited to men and really what
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it is it's a way to
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gamify preparation for war i mean yeah
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all the rowing the javelin yeah
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wrestling all of that it's gamifying war
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right and so strong man has
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its roots in building
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hardy men for life on the
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seas. And then the games came
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out of it. When Strongman started in
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the United States, there wasn't really a
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methodology for how to train for it.
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What you would do is essentially just
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find, it was a bunch of guys
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finding the strongest, biggest guy they knew.
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Coming together at a parking lot being like,
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hey, we have this axle from this old
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vehicle. Let's see if we can pick it
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up and put it over our heads. Hey,
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I have this old engine block. Let's see
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who can pick it up and run with
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it the farthest. So let's see who could
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pull the bus. That's right. That's right. And
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so the original Strongman, I think the first
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World's Strongest Man aired in like 1979. Yeah.
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And you have people. You
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know, former NFL players. Yeah,
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yeah, yeah. Anybody who's a
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strength trainer. Yeah, I knew this guy.
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He's a six foot nine. He's a
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mechanic down here at the shop. I
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saw him press a transmission once. Get
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him out here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So
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it kind of evolved from there. But
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then the weightlifters sort of took over,
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didn't you? I mean, the real strength
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trainers. Yeah, I mean, absolutely. So when
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you say took over, I just mean
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like the methodology and how to get
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strong. even
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in my era. So when I started
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strongman, it was a couple of
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years before Instagram was a thing. When
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I started as a middleweight strongman,
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if you could clean and press a
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240 pound log my
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size. You're doing really well.
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Yeah. Yeah. Now, if you're a
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middleweight and you can't overhead press
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pounds, why are you here? Why
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Yeah. Yeah. Right. Back then,
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if you could deadlift pounds, that
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is a strong dude. Now that is
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amateur chump weight. Wow. Yeah. And
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why? Well, because with social media, now
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we have the dissemination of all
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this training methodology. You have 19 -year -olds
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deadlifting 1 pounds. Yeah. It's of.
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Yeah. Yeah. Even 15 years ago. But
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now we have such wide dissemination
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of knowledge and training that people can
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progress much further, much faster. So
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So the just continues to climb. Thanks
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