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civilization. This is

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Turley Talks. I wanted

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to, I actually wanted

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to think big picture with you

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a little bit here and

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strategically speaking. So seriously,

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like big picture from your

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vantage point, what does

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it take to actually win

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a state? It

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seems simple enough, right? But

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to win a state, what

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do you have to do? So say I were

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running for office, what would I need to do

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to make sure I win? Well, let me

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talk about the biggest fallacy that we find with

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people that come to me that are new to

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politics right now. I want to run for Congress.

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And I tell them all the time, whether

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it's dog catcher, school board, county commissioner,

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state rep, Congress, Senate, everybody

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has this facade that when a voter walks into

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the voting booth, they look at

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your name, they look at your opponent's name,

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and they understand your full platform,

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they think about their values, and then

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they vote for the candidate that most closely

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aligns with their values. And

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it's just not true. A

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lot of these races, because of the

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establishment, because of how much money from

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the lobbyists and the special interests go

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into these races, because they have a

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vested interest in keeping the government funds

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coming to their company or coming to

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their industry, they pour

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tons of dollars in.

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So because of the rise of alternative

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media and different things, it is a little

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bit easier for people to jump in because the

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message is not all through one

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channel. But I tell people,

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if you want to run for Congress, it's going

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to cost you a minimum of $3 million. Wow.

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And so when I say that, the people are like, well,

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you know, and I'm like, listen, there might

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have been races in 2010, maybe 2014. But

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once you got past that, you know, even those years, it

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was like, you needed a million to win. And

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so and when I say this, I'm

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talking about if patriots decided to run. Right. Right.

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The reason you need that money is because if

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they find out that you're a candidate who's

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not going to go along and get along. If

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you're going to stand up to some of the

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corruption, if you're going to vote against the swamp,

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they have all these groups lined up ready

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to identify those people, destroy

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them. And the whole strategy

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is pretty fascinating. I've seen it done,

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sadly, to five of my good friends.

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We would get elected to state level,

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and there's an opening, and they could

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run. In the

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last 30 days, the establishment

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will spend $3 million in

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television and mail. Wow. And

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so you figure a hundred thousand dollars

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a day. Wow. Making Dr. Steve out

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to be a monster. Yeah. And I,

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I, I work with these great, humble

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Christian patriots are running for office who

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are like, but I don't have any

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skeletons in my closet. I'm like, you

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don't need them because they'll fucking they'll

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create. Yeah, they'll create. They'll create.

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The lines are already written. Right. So.

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I joke, but I spend a lot of time

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not trying to talk people out of running for office,

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but when you're talking about how do you win? If

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you go into some of these races, you have to

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be able to compete with money, which is always

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the biggest challenge. But let's say you get over that.

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Then it becomes something of, do

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you understand a consultant class enough

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to navigate? Because people ask me,

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they say, Cliff, do you really think

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the doors are the answer? And if so,

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why do you spend money on anything

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else? And I say, look, We

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have to compete where the Democrats are, which

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is at the door, which I have the

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literature to show, and it's the most impactful

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way to get people to vote. But

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you can't avoid traditional media. You can't avoid

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mail. It's both and. It's not either

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or. And we don't have to have power.

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We don't have to match them. But

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I just tell individuals, you have to play

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in all these spaces. But

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90 % of the time, they don't get past the money. Right.

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And that is why I push people to run

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for local office. Right. Because if you're doing

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local office, you can get involved in a

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way that is just like, you know,

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you can compete because you can raise 25

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brand and run for office. Right. And so

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it makes it that the blue collar worker,

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the normal person can have enough of their

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friends come together and the support them. But

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flipping a state, I mean,

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you're talking about, you know, hundreds

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of millions of dollars. Dang. I mean,

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you had Trump obviously in 24,

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which has taught PA. I

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mean, you figured a campaign in PA,

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you know, spending $100 million. Yeah.

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Yeah. You figure the campaign, you know,

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PACs are spending probably close to $250

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million. I'm just talking about PA. Right.

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One state. then you add up all

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the congressional candidate budgets. Oh, my. The

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McCormick Senate budget. Oh, my, yeah, and

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the Bob Casey and that. Right. And

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so this is obviously both sides. Yeah.

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But I just tell individuals, you

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know, many hands makes for

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light work. Yeah. Yeah. But

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you couldn't even pull off some of these states

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if you didn't have people doing it. Yeah. Activists,

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though, get burned out because they get into a

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lot of these big races and try to flip

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a state. And the

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power of winning is fantastic. But

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the demoralizing

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side effects of losing, I'm

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always like, look, stick with things that you can have an

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impact. Because if you

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had a million dollar budget and you try to

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dump it into a Senate race, you

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might move the needle a half a

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percent. Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm. Put a million

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dollars into 30 state rep races. Yeah,

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I might control the state legislature. Right,

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right, right. And that's the mindset I'm

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always pushing people is, you know, go

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local, not because local. It's that much

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more important. Yeah. Less important, but because

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you can have an impact. You were,

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when we were talking last, you were

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talking about running, what was, what were

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the, uh, what's, yeah, judge of elections.

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Yeah. That, that, that fits right into

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that, that schema, doesn't it? And the

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nice thing is when you can get

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the establishment is not used to conservative

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actual grassroots groups that are funded

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and that communicate well. So the nice

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thing is when you work bottom up,

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it allows you to then

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go to the people that now

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trust you and help to get them

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elected. And you can devise or

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conspire plans. to hold

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certain Republicans accountable. I mean,

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imagine if there's a budget vote in

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Congress and you're a Republican Congress, and let's

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say Doge comes out and says, hey,

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listen, the swamp and us are

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going head to head. But your Republican

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Congress hasn't come out yet to say

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that he's voting with Doge and he's going

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to be with Trump. Well,

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if you get 40 local elected

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officials that are Republican

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in your congressional district to

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start putting out public statements. writing

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letters, blowing them up on Facebook.

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Hey, why haven't you come out yet?

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Right. Right. It is a counterbalance

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to what happens in DC. A

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forcing mechanism, right? Yeah. Same thing, but

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from the opposite. Exactly. Yeah. Which

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is always going to be, which

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is always going to be anti -cut,

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anti. I think that's just, for

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me, one of the, the key differences

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between Democrats and Republicans. I'm curious

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in your thought. Republicans

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seem to be inherently

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dysfunctional. I'm talking about congressional

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Republicans because, you know, half

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like Rand Paul, for example, half really

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want to cut, you know, Tom

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Massey and so forth. But the other half

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don't. Whereas with Democrats. They

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all want to just grow government.

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They're 100 % united. Am

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I hitting it right? Or

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is that the key difference between

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the two parties? Just in

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terms of their competence and their

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functionality. Yeah, and that's

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what's tough about anything going through DC

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is people have this facade of what

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is happening. When I

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worked for Ron Paul on the Hill

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before he retired, and it was 2011 and

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2012, and I always tell people, the greatest

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lesson I ever learned is

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Republicans get on the floor and they give

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their big speeches to the C -SPAN cameras. We've

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got to cut spending. got to cut it.

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We've got to reform it. We're debts out

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of control. The deficit. The

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federal Democrats get on the floor, give

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their whole speech, pour in our heartstrings. You're

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trying to kill old people and you're trying

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to steal money from the court. And

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they give all their speeches. And

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the Republican leader and the Democrat leader,

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they go back into the smokefield

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room and they say, listen. They

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say, we'll give you money

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for military and for the

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things that Republicans care about. You

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will take the money for the domestic

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welfare. And

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they say, OK, they come out. And every year, we

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just spend more money. We just spend more money.

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But they go to speeches. Right. And

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they got on Hannity. And that's

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sort of right. Exactly. It drives me

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crazy. I can't even look at

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X. you know

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ex tweets anymore with you know

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so -and -so says we need to

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act just like I'm done guys

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stop saying you know and just

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and just do it although they

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did seem to do some some

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good stuff today with passing some

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of Trump's budget what's crazy

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about the digital age and I

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think it's really gonna start to bite

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him in the rear end he's

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like Schumer a lot of the Democrats that

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have been around for a while. I

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mean, some of these video montages, positions

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he took on immigration, positions

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he took on waste fraud

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in the beach. Oh my,

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yeah. And it's like, they're

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tariffs, tariffs, the 1990 speeches

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on tariffs in China. I

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mean, it's like, that's literally, if

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I told you, if I read that

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transcript said, who's saying that? You would

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have thought it was Trump. No, it's

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Nancy Pelosi. It's Chuck Schumer, yeah. And

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because we have such decentralized

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ways to get information out now.

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People are getting it from different angles.

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I think it's going to be great

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for holding politicians accountable. just

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the chit chat and all this just yak

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and yak out of DC. Well,

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now they're being exposed. It's not just, hey, we go to

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DC once a month and give our floor

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speech. That's what they hear. And

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that's all that ABC plays or C

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-SPAN plays, and then it's gone. Thanks

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