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back to Unachame podcast. So

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Jason I'm in the Atlanta

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Airport last night. And this

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person rudely sits down behind me

0:46

shakes all the chairs and I

0:48

kind of look over my shoulder

0:50

and it's that. I gave him like

0:52

a zerp. You know the zerp is?

0:55

A zerp. You like take your two

0:57

fingers and you like get him in

0:59

the side like the ribcage? It used

1:02

to be in my fat side. But

1:04

now that I'm losing all this weight

1:06

there. Now he actually got to the

1:08

camera on my cell phone and I'm

1:11

doing like a zerp. I'm not familiar

1:13

with yuppy dialogue or phrases that came from

1:15

a world. Well you're in the airport there's

1:17

a lot of strange people already so it

1:20

just kind of fit into. I was flying

1:22

in town. He was coming here and I

1:24

didn't even know you were going to be

1:26

here so I was shot. You were like

1:28

30 minutes late? You were on East Coast

1:31

town? I was on East Coast time. Yeah

1:33

we're sitting there waiting. I was like well

1:35

it doesn't do much good for Zatha to

1:37

be in town if it doesn't show

1:39

up show up. Yeah, I was embarrassing speaking

1:42

of embarrassing. Okay, so I

1:44

took a little trip had

1:46

a date night with my wife

1:48

Few days ago. I'm not sure how

1:51

long ago it was Is one of

1:53

the most embarrassing Things

1:55

that has ever happened on date

1:57

night on day? Yeah, so just thing

1:59

Thank you, playing all this, it's

2:02

gonna be great. And you've had

2:04

a lot of embarrassing things happen

2:06

in your life. Really? You may

2:08

not realize it, but yeah. No,

2:10

I didn't. I mean, look, you

2:12

gotta have thick skin and light.

2:14

So we went to the season

2:16

five premiere of The Chosen. And

2:18

it was in Dallas. Last year

2:20

it was in LA, which was

2:22

very uncomfortable for me. Yeah, that's

2:24

not good. So not that I

2:26

don't like LA, I just don't

2:28

want to be there. But we

2:30

went, we took it for the

2:33

team. So this year it's in

2:35

Dallas, because I think that's their

2:37

kind of hub. It is now,

2:39

yeah. Yeah, where they feel them

2:41

outside of Dallas, I think. Yeah,

2:43

yeah. So here we go. So

2:45

here we decided to do something.

2:47

Look, I'm going to confess in

2:49

this story, my personal problems here.

2:51

And one of them I realized

2:53

is... When you're in a world

2:55

like we're in, you have people

2:57

who set up trips. And I've

2:59

been doing this for years. It's

3:01

a team. I have a team

3:04

of people. But what that leads

3:06

to is then you're no longer

3:08

able to function as a normal

3:10

human being. Without the team. Without

3:12

the team. You just can't do

3:14

it. You became a victim of

3:16

your own success. I guess. I

3:18

mean, I said this is embarrassing.

3:20

It is literally embarrassing. Because Missy

3:22

said, well, I think we'll just

3:24

drive over. It's just Dallas, because

3:26

we go there all the time.

3:28

Because the old days, you would

3:30

just get in your car and

3:32

drive Dallas and do something. You

3:34

wouldn't think a normal human being

3:37

in their 50s would be able

3:39

to pull that up. And most

3:41

normal people can do that, just

3:43

so you know. I mean, luckily,

3:45

my marriage is in a good

3:47

place. went wrong. And it was

3:49

our own fault. Yeah, me. Because

3:51

you weren't, you didn't. have your

3:53

little guide there to we we

3:55

we we took the wrong turns

3:57

we we were supposed to be

3:59

there I think the festivities started

4:01

at like three so we did

4:03

the math four hours over there

4:05

basically but we were coming in

4:08

the longer we got delayed and

4:10

took wrong turns and all that

4:12

I mean you drive on interstate

4:14

you get off Doesn't seem like

4:16

a hard thing, but it just

4:18

well, it doesn't go to Dallas.

4:20

You want to go to the

4:22

hotel first because you didn't want

4:24

to because you have to get

4:26

kind of spiffed up which I

4:28

don't. Is there a red carpet

4:30

involved in this? Well, it's a

4:32

teal carpet, teal carpet. Yeah, I

4:34

think the colors of the chosen

4:36

is like, teal, because it's like

4:38

a teal carpet. So we pulled

4:41

up the show According to the

4:43

note, it started at 7, and

4:45

so we got there early, 657

4:47

is when we pulled in. So

4:49

you missed the red carpet, you

4:51

are the two cars? Well, not

4:53

quite, you know, we got out,

4:55

people didn't recognize me, part, you're

4:57

supposed to part, we got your

4:59

tickets on your phone, it was

5:01

got complicated, since we didn't have

5:03

anybody doing this, then we couldn't

5:05

find the tickets and... Finally, somebody

5:07

recognized me along the route to

5:09

park. And so we just walked

5:12

in like we own the place,

5:14

like outside is where the teal

5:16

carpet was. And the time we

5:18

get there, and they got you

5:20

kind of like cattle, you go

5:22

through whatever your status is, you

5:24

go through a certain corridor, but

5:26

it's outside. Oh, you got fans

5:28

around, people were recognized, which was

5:30

good. Because I kept running into

5:32

problem because we don't have the

5:34

credentials. And we wind up and

5:36

the cast is taking the last

5:38

picture on the tail carpet. And

5:40

Dallas and Amanda, who we're friends

5:43

with and we support them, they're

5:45

up there taking the picture. So

5:47

they're like, well, you know, it's

5:49

pretty well. now. Did y'all want

5:51

to take a picture with a

5:53

cast? And Missy's like, no, we

5:55

kind of just want to take

5:57

a picture with our friends. And

5:59

they're like, who your friends? Like

6:01

Dallas and the man, the Jenkins,

6:03

they're like, well, you know, they

6:05

pretty much run this thing. Yeah,

6:07

we know. We just want one

6:09

picture. So the guy, he goes

6:11

over and I see him whispering

6:13

in Dallas is here because there's

6:16

thousands of people out here. And

6:18

I was like, this is a

6:20

key moment. Because he might just

6:22

say no. If he says no,

6:24

then you're back to the Spanish

6:26

movie. Don't really. Should we even,

6:28

should we be here? You know?

6:30

He looked up and said, okay,

6:32

yeah, they're in. So that was

6:34

the key move for what happens

6:36

next. So we get up there,

6:38

take a picture, good to see.

6:40

I didn't know y'all were gonna

6:42

be here. I mean, they didn't

6:44

even know we were coming. Yeah.

6:47

Because you didn't have a team

6:49

of people doing it on the

6:51

network. And you know with my

6:53

parents and everything going on, we

6:55

were a last minute declaration and

6:57

that proved to be a problem.

6:59

So they gave us these little

7:01

bracelets once we've been legitimized by

7:03

the director of the show. They're

7:05

now like, okay, we'll go ahead

7:07

and give you some credential. You're

7:09

supposed to be here. So I

7:11

thought, okay, this is great. So

7:13

we took the picture, well we're

7:15

talking, because now we're in the

7:17

right corridor with the guy directing

7:20

it and his wife and the

7:22

cast, but we're moving as one,

7:24

we're catching up with our friends.

7:26

So we go into the theater,

7:28

well there's multiple rooms in the

7:30

theater. And so as we get

7:32

to the security line, which is

7:34

like five people, and they're not

7:36

checking the credentials of the cast

7:38

and... and the director because obviously

7:40

everyone knows who they are. Well

7:42

they look at us and they're

7:44

like, I look for a bracelet,

7:46

well I've lost it. Oh boy.

7:48

In a five minute walk, I

7:51

lost it. A team of people

7:53

couldn't have helped you with that,

7:55

that's just stupid. And so they

7:57

said where's your bracelet? Well Missy

7:59

didn't have hers on because it

8:01

didn't match her dress. So now

8:03

we don't have our bracelets, but

8:05

they looked and they're like, well,

8:07

we're- You kind of look like

8:09

an extra of those. So where

8:11

are your credentials? And I said,

8:13

right here, I pointed to Dallas

8:15

Jenkins. I'm with him. Oh, okay.

8:17

But he didn't even know we

8:19

were coming. So we get in

8:22

the room and I start having

8:24

this conversation with Peter. from the

8:26

show. Not to real Peter. Yeah,

8:28

he's not really plays Peter. Well,

8:30

the guy who plays Peter. But

8:32

in your mind, big distinction. In

8:34

your mind, though, I mean, I

8:36

do this thing in my speeches

8:38

where I'm like, close your eyes

8:40

and picture God. And most people

8:42

see nothing or a big light

8:44

or an old man with a

8:46

gavel. Yeah. But here recently, it's

8:48

been the guy from the chosen.

8:50

So in your mind, you know,

8:52

it does something to you, because

8:55

I'm like, I'm talking to Peter.

8:57

I thought he speaks English on

8:59

the show because Missy whispered in

9:01

mayor I don't think he speaks

9:03

English because everything I said he

9:05

was just bewildered and Missy said

9:07

does he speak English and Dallas

9:09

said I don't think he speaks

9:11

jaces as Miss A so there's

9:13

a difference he speaks the Queen's

9:15

English he basically was asking me

9:17

what are you doing here and

9:19

I was like I'm friends with

9:21

Dallas, you know, he's like, what

9:23

do you do? I was like,

9:26

we do a show, we had

9:28

a show, it's called Duck Dynasty,

9:30

but he was like, Duck, I

9:32

was like, you know, Duck calls

9:34

and I was trying to take

9:36

him to the process, but, where's

9:38

he from, do you know? I

9:40

don't know, but we didn't connect.

9:42

Yeah. He was like, yeah, I'll

9:44

check that out. But he's telling

9:46

his wife that night, this weird.

9:48

So in this, none of this

9:50

might say. In this room, everyone's

9:52

name is on a seat. So

9:54

just imagine a movie theater. You

9:56

go in there, your name is

9:59

on the seat. But they don't

10:01

know you're coming. Well, obviously

10:03

not, because we start walking down

10:05

the aisles kind of looking for

10:07

our name. And guess what? The

10:09

name is not there. So at

10:11

some point, they're like, we're

10:13

ready to start. I mean, Dallas

10:16

is fixed to give a speech. We're

10:18

still looking. I was like, where's

10:20

my say? There's enough seat. So

10:23

the right hand man, the seats

10:25

right next to Dallas and Amanda.

10:27

He gets up and realizes that

10:29

we're we need some help and

10:32

he's like well, let me look

10:34

at your tickets Well, we finally

10:36

found the tickets at this point

10:38

and we're already in And he's

10:40

like I'd say this but you're in

10:42

the wrong room Which makes perfect sense.

10:44

This is the cast and crew and

10:47

he's like but the good news is

10:49

I'm gonna let you have our seats

10:51

him and his wife. Wow. What

10:53

a servant that's like Jesus And

10:55

so I look at Missy's act

10:57

like Jesus. I look at Missy

10:59

and she's gone Ezekiel 1 for

11:01

you Bible nerds. Her face was

11:03

glowing a red tent. She looked

11:06

at Maddie. She was so embarrassed.

11:08

I mean she was like no

11:10

we're not sitting in your sit.

11:12

It's like we don't have time

11:14

to go find your theater. It's

11:16

fine. So they got up and

11:18

I saw them later like someone

11:20

brought a chair in for him because

11:23

his wife. Had a seat. Yeah,

11:25

Steve's over here sitting in a

11:27

chair. I'm sitting at the

11:30

right hand of the guy

11:32

putting this on. There's got

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to be a Bible lesson

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there's a, there's a, Francis Schaefer. He,

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you know, I love Francis Schaefer. So

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he was kind of working our love

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before. Yeah, but it was cool. But

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he was probably one of the most

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prolific. ethic theologians of the late 70s,

14:07

early 80s, very well-known and very well

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respected his work. I mean, very influential

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in the church, and he comes over

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here to do an event at a

14:16

church that also had a homeless ministry.

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And so when he showed up, they

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thought he was homeless, and so they

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had a, he actually stayed the night.

14:25

on a cot in the homeless shelter

14:27

and he was the keynote speaker for

14:29

the event the next day. That's basically

14:32

what happened to me. You know what?

14:34

He read a book after that. I

14:36

think he read a book after that

14:38

called No Little People. I thought that

14:41

was pretty good title. But you know

14:43

what was fascinating? Of course we watched

14:45

it, season five, the first two episodes.

14:47

Fantastic. So where

14:50

are we on that? Where are

14:52

you at in the story? Where

14:54

is season week? I mean, how

14:56

many seasons are there total? I

14:58

think it's gonna be seven. There's

15:00

gonna be seven. So this is

15:02

the passion week. This would be

15:04

a big one. This was, you

15:06

know, the, at the supper, the

15:08

last supper is kind of the

15:10

launching point. Yeah. And I was

15:12

like asking these questions. Of course,

15:14

I shouldn't have been, but I

15:16

was like, I mean, how many

15:18

people did it take? There was

15:20

like 13,000 extras, 13,000. And you

15:22

know what I found fascinating? Because

15:25

I mean, I'm like, well, it

15:27

was embarrassing that we're here, maybe

15:29

God worked this out, or we're

15:31

just idiots, or maybe a combination,

15:33

or maybe a combination of both.

15:35

But because I was that guy

15:37

couldn't help but ask these questions,

15:39

you know, I was like. Because

15:41

it was it was moving right

15:43

off the bat that there's this

15:45

huge scene. I'm like, how did

15:47

you even do that? He said,

15:49

we actually had to stop because

15:51

everyone got moved just by the

15:53

overall scene of what we're doing.

15:55

He said, everybody, the exures, the

15:57

chaos. He said, even me. And

15:59

he's like, I couldn't focus on

16:02

doing this. So I thought it

16:04

was spectacular. Which I have a

16:06

feeling, that's going to happen more

16:08

as they go forward. Does it

16:10

go through the crucifixion of Jesus

16:12

or up to the crucifixion, but

16:14

not the actual thing? I don't

16:16

know. I don't know. I don't

16:18

know. I don't know. I don't

16:20

know. But I don't know this.

16:22

That was good. So it comes

16:24

out in Theators. March 28th. Yeah,

16:26

which is a couple of days

16:28

from when this after this comes

16:30

up. Yeah, and eventually, you know,

16:32

it comes out on Amazon Prime,

16:34

but I'm telling you're not going

16:37

to want to wait for that.

16:39

I mean, it was fantastic. So,

16:41

and every time they do one

16:43

of these, which is a blessing,

16:45

it winds up being one of

16:47

the top draws usually that, you

16:49

know, in all movies, which is

16:51

great. I'm just kind of making

16:53

the statement. that we were where

16:55

we didn't belong. All of a

16:57

sudden, from that point on, everybody

16:59

thought we must have something to

17:01

do with this. So they had

17:03

an after party at the hotel.

17:05

We were staying at the hotel

17:07

where the after party happened. But

17:09

you didn't know that. No. I

17:11

mean, I was like, this is

17:14

the craziest thing. So here we

17:16

are now. We're back at the

17:18

hotel and it's like. Same pick

17:20

come right in We got upgraded

17:22

the first class and so then

17:24

people are like we really love

17:26

what y'all did this this this

17:28

season awesome and I'm looking around

17:30

behind me there Because I was

17:32

in the... They're telling you this.

17:34

Oh, they're telling me this. At

17:36

first it's like, look, I had

17:38

nothing to do with it. But

17:40

then initially, yeah, you were like,

17:42

yeah, we worked hard on it.

17:44

At some point, I just said,

17:46

yeah, look, we worked hard, you

17:48

know, it's a team. Now it's

17:51

called me, and I told him,

17:53

I said, you guys, we gotta

17:55

have to have more, yeah. Like

17:57

you're a consultant now. It's one

17:59

of the weirdest things that's the

18:01

weirdest things that's ever happened ever

18:03

happened that's ever happened. It's ever

18:05

happened. It's ever happened. It's ever

18:07

happened. I mean it was embarrassing

18:09

but then it was like okay

18:11

you're and so then I'm talking

18:13

to all the writers. I always

18:15

so wish Missy were on this

18:17

episode right now because she probably

18:19

has a whole blame before. Yeah

18:21

exactly. The debacle that she said

18:23

you should have had your ducks

18:26

in her eyes. She blamed us.

18:28

She took responsibility. She said I

18:30

just we are we this. Bad?

18:32

I mean, we made fun of

18:34

Tim Tibo because she gave him

18:36

some recommendations for his playlist of

18:38

worship music and he said, yeah,

18:40

I'll get my guy on that.

18:42

And she's like, you have a

18:44

guy who puts the songs on

18:46

your playlist, which is my point.

18:48

You get into this bizarre world.

18:50

It's a good problem, but it's

18:52

embarrassing. And yeah, we were embarrassed.

18:54

Do you have a guy? No,

18:56

I don't have a guy in

18:58

the family. Now after hearing all

19:00

this, I'm glad I don't have

19:03

a guy. I'm glad I don't

19:05

have a guy. I'm glad I

19:07

just do my own thing. I

19:09

do the old fashion's crazy. Like

19:11

if I want to go somewhere.

19:13

But you have a guy. What

19:15

are you talking about? Who? Brad.

19:17

Well, sort of. I mean, he's

19:19

a guy. I mean, he's a

19:21

guy. I mean, I walked in

19:23

there. was a bunch of nuns

19:25

and I was like I've never

19:27

been I've only been to a

19:29

handful of after parties I figure

19:31

Jesus and the chosen I'll do

19:33

it and it wasn't the like

19:35

the party you think you know

19:37

it was it was more like

19:40

a change the water to wine

19:42

party you know it was it

19:44

was good there was nuns there

19:46

yeah and so uh yeah you

19:48

sent a picture of that I

19:50

sent a picture because this the

19:52

first person who greeted us greeted

19:54

us And then they got invited.

19:56

I think they're help sponsoring with

19:58

the the hallow thing. Yeah, the

20:00

hallow. Oh yeah. Because he's being

20:02

roomy as big. Exactly. I think

20:04

that's where that came from. So

20:06

we. meet this none and she's

20:08

like oh I'm a I'm a

20:10

film and TV what do you

20:12

call them they they like watch

20:15

something and say critic yeah critic

20:17

yeah I was like really is

20:19

a critic like Cisco what was

20:21

it Cisco Lee Brueberg and so

20:23

missy said well what did what

20:25

do you think about the show

20:27

duck dynasty and she said those

20:29

people you know and she went

20:31

on yeah missy said we are

20:33

those people you know and she

20:35

said we are those people you

20:37

know and she went on yeah

20:39

She's like, you're one of those

20:41

people? And I was like, I'm

20:43

not sure I like your tongue

20:45

in that. And she said, well,

20:47

can I have a picture? I

20:49

was like on one condition. And

20:52

she just snapped her head up.

20:54

I was like, I want to

20:56

take a picture with you because

20:58

I've never been to a party

21:00

with a none. So we need

21:02

to document. And she had never

21:04

been to a party with a

21:06

dug density person. Yeah, but she

21:08

had watched the show and loved

21:10

it. Well, maybe you just got

21:12

a good review for the new

21:14

revival show coming up. You may

21:16

be paving the way. Willy Manny

21:18

just send you out as a

21:20

publicist now that you've had to

21:22

do your own media. I really

21:24

love that woman. She was funny.

21:27

She just, she loved the look,

21:29

just bubbly. Yeah. You know, and

21:31

she had watched her show. I

21:33

wonder what, you know, her first

21:35

impression was, but she agreed to

21:37

love it. So, yeah. There you

21:39

go, you know, you look up

21:41

one day you try to drive

21:43

to Dallas next thing, you know,

21:45

you're partying with a bunch of

21:47

nuns and you're in a place

21:49

where you really shouldn't have been,

21:51

which was embarrassing. You could have

21:53

been in worse places than partying

21:55

with nuns. Yeah, you know, that's

21:57

where you wound up. Yeah, so

21:59

what's funny is after it was

22:01

all over, you know, I sent

22:04

Dallas a nice little, that was

22:06

fantastic, you know, and I got

22:08

a good podcast story, you know,

22:10

you know, and he's like. that

22:12

it was all a mix up.

22:14

No, I shouldn't. I mean, he

22:16

never even thought, I wonder why

22:18

they put the duck guy. I'm

22:20

sure somewhere in a meeting right

22:22

now of the chosen, they're like,

22:24

who let the duck guy in

22:26

the cast and crew enter same.

22:28

But you know Dallas came on

22:30

our podcast the first season like

22:32

when they were just promoting it

22:34

just it had just happened yeah

22:36

the first time he came on

22:38

so he probably knows Jay's that

22:41

we're a long way yeah we're

22:43

probably we're good promoters of his

22:45

show which is amazing and I

22:47

love this Hallo thing that all

22:49

the advertising Wahlberg's on there Chris

22:51

Pratt now I like that people

22:53

are recognized Hollywood stars are talking

22:55

about prayer and God I mean

22:57

that's a This is a major

22:59

positive for me. So I love

23:01

what they're doing. I think it's

23:03

awesome. Well, it made me think

23:05

just them showing kind of the

23:07

recap and I guess the future

23:09

episodes. But my wife's favorite episode

23:11

is season two, episode one. We

23:13

actually watched it last night because,

23:16

you know, I had watched it

23:18

a couple times, she's watched it

23:20

dozens. And of course she cried

23:22

at the end. I mean, just,

23:24

I was like, baby, I thought

23:26

you've seen this like three dozen

23:28

times. She's like, oh, I cry

23:30

every time. But it's fascinating for

23:32

where we're studying in the book

23:34

of John, because, and what I

23:36

like about their show is they

23:38

follow the Bible, but they make

23:40

it about Jesus. I mean, it's

23:42

called the chosen. So you're getting

23:44

Jesus from the perspective of the

23:46

people around him. Yeah, of the

23:48

12. Which I've always thought was

23:50

a fascinating concept. Yeah, and like

23:53

we do in any kind of

23:55

when you read this stuff, is

23:57

that not what we do? We're

23:59

trying to look at Jesus through

24:01

our lens of the 21st century,

24:03

I mean, that's what we do.

24:05

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25:35

did was, it starts off with

25:37

John, it's like at a future

25:39

date, and they come at the

25:42

date of Jesus has died, been

25:44

buried and raised, and he's gone.

25:46

And now John's kind of interviewing

25:48

all the followers, because obviously he's

25:50

fixed to write a letter about

25:52

it, or write a book about

25:54

it. And so it starts there,

25:56

but then when it gets to

25:58

the scene... It starts off with

26:00

John and what they call Big

26:02

James. on there. They're plowing a

26:04

field and they're thinking, oh, we're

26:06

the, we're the special one. You

26:08

know, Jesus has chosen this, this

26:10

special moment. Now this is not

26:12

in the Bible, but the story

26:14

that they told kind of links

26:17

what happens in John 4. And

26:19

turns out, of course, if you

26:21

haven't seen season 2, I'm not

26:23

spongy. You should have watched that

26:25

years ago. But, uh, catch up.

26:27

What they did, they took a

26:29

couple of stories and brought them

26:31

together, which is they were actually

26:33

plowing that field for the guy

26:35

who owned the field, who was

26:37

one of the guys who attacked

26:39

the guy, the story of the

26:41

Good Samaritan in Luke 10. And

26:43

so one of the guys who

26:45

attacked the, who was walking down

26:47

the road, I have to go

26:49

over there and look. And Luke

26:51

10. All right, in luke 1025.

26:54

Yeah, let me just read you

26:56

this story. So I may have

26:58

a point when you get here.

27:00

It's like, oh, that's good. On

27:02

one occasion, an expert in the

27:04

law stood up to test Jesus,

27:06

and he asked, what must I

27:08

do to inherit eternal life, which

27:10

a lot of the book of

27:12

John has been about? He's what

27:14

is written in the Lawyer plot.

27:16

How do you read it? He

27:18

answered, love the Lord, your God,

27:20

with all your heart, with all

27:22

your strength. With all your soul

27:24

with all your mind love and

27:26

love your neighbors yourself you've answered

27:29

correctly Do this and you'll live,

27:31

but he wanted to justify himself.

27:33

So yeah, Jesus. Well, who is

27:35

my neighbor? In reply, so he

27:37

tells this story a man was

27:39

going down from Jerusalem Jericho when

27:41

he fell into the hands of

27:43

robbers. They stripped him of his

27:45

clothes beat him and went away

27:47

leaving him half dead a priest

27:49

happened to be going down the

27:51

same road and when he saw

27:53

the man He passed by on

27:55

the other side. So too, a

27:57

leavite, when he came... to the

27:59

place and saw him pass by

28:01

on the other side, but a

28:03

Samaritan as he traveled came where

28:06

the man was and he saw

28:08

him, he took pity on him.

28:10

He went to him and bandages

28:12

were pouring on the oil and

28:14

wine. Then he put the man

28:16

on his own donkey, took him

28:18

to an end, took care of

28:20

him. The next day he took

28:22

out two silver coins and gave

28:24

them to the innkeeper. Look after

28:26

him, he said, and when I

28:28

return I reimburse you. for any

28:30

extra expense you may have. Which

28:32

of these do you think was

28:34

a neighbor to the man who

28:36

fell into the hands of robbers?

28:38

The expert in the law replied,

28:40

the one who had mercy on

28:43

him, Jesus said, go and do

28:45

likewise. So from the chosen's perspective,

28:47

they took one of the guy,

28:49

either the priests, the Levi, or

28:51

whatever. And that's where this guy

28:53

lived. He had beaten this guy.

28:56

lived to tell about it, but

28:58

somewhere in there had developed some

29:00

kind of leg injury and he

29:02

barely could walk. He didn't have

29:04

any money. And so Jesus went

29:06

there and the whole reason John

29:08

and James were doing the telling

29:10

and all was a garden so

29:12

he could support himself. And so

29:14

it's cool that you think, well,

29:16

why are they doing this? Because

29:18

he was showing his disciples. Because

29:20

the Jews and the Samaritans didn't

29:22

get along. We learned that in

29:24

John Sam. Well, they're all like,

29:26

well, wait a minute, this guy,

29:28

he's a thug. Well, in the

29:31

episode, he basically confesses his sins

29:33

to Jesus. And it's like, I

29:35

was one of the guys that

29:37

beat this up. Now I'm like

29:39

suffering the consequences of that. So

29:41

he winds up healing the guy.

29:43

And meanwhile, you had this, the

29:45

other story of the Samaritan woman,

29:47

who's out there being the spokesman.

29:49

for Jesus. So he was basically

29:51

showing them, look I came here

29:53

to bring all people together. which

29:55

it's really moving and when you

29:57

get to the end of the

29:59

episode where John starts writing he

30:01

goes back to the in the

30:03

beginning you know was the word

30:05

or where it was with God.

30:07

I mean it's a fantastic episode

30:09

but the main theme of it

30:11

was their take on breaking down

30:13

these walls that divide us whether

30:15

culturally or where you're from the

30:17

hatred between us you know Jesus

30:19

came for everybody. It was the

30:21

same setup Zach as the the

30:23

movie the Apostle Paul the guy

30:25

that directed our movie right Andrew

30:27

it used with that where Paul

30:30

is being interviewed by Luke yeah

30:32

you know to be able to

30:34

write acts and the same thing

30:36

where you're looking back and seeing

30:38

the as you come forward which

30:40

it's just a great yeah Andrew

30:42

loves to do that yeah yeah

30:44

it's very powerful way to do

30:46

it we're actually doing another film

30:48

with Andrew What are you ready

30:50

to announce anything? Yeah, well it's

30:52

the press has been released, but

30:54

you know Randy Travis the country

30:56

music singer we're doing his story

30:58

Really yeah, so answer is gonna

31:00

direct it and he's right in

31:02

the script right now Oh, that's

31:04

awesome, but I love the I

31:06

love the technique though of going

31:08

back. Yeah, and then referencing that

31:10

through which we did the blinds

31:12

I think that it's interesting that

31:14

that's what showing how These cultures

31:16

are coming together. I mean, it's

31:18

such a big part of the

31:20

Old Testament that's kind of missed

31:22

that you don't see until you

31:24

get to the New Testament. I

31:27

was thinking of Luke 24 on

31:29

the road to Emmaus, when Jesus

31:31

had been resurrected and he sees

31:33

the disciples, two of the disciples,

31:35

and they're just distraught over, you

31:37

know, what happened? And he's like,

31:39

hey, what are you guys talking

31:41

about? And they're like, are you

31:43

the only guy? who does not

31:45

know what's happened the last three

31:47

days and they say this weird

31:49

thing that's so weird if you

31:51

don't catch it but they said

31:53

that this guy in Jesus essentially

31:55

was that we hoped would be

31:57

the hope of Israel, but he's

31:59

dead. He's been dead for three

32:01

days. But he wasn't dead, but

32:03

they thought he was dead. But

32:05

in their mind, he was going

32:07

to be the hope of Israel.

32:09

But if you read through the

32:11

rest of the discourse, what he's

32:13

telling them is that the Messiah

32:15

is going to be the Messiah

32:17

for all the nations, not just

32:19

Israel. Everybody would be included in

32:21

Samaritan Gentiles. Like everybody was going

32:23

to be included in. And you

32:26

don't really see it in the

32:28

Old Testament when you go back

32:30

and read it through the lens

32:32

of Jesus. But they didn't understand

32:34

that until he opened their eyes

32:36

to the scriptures. So I think

32:38

it's beautiful. There's a philosopher in

32:40

Kierkegaard that said we live life

32:42

forward, we're living it forward, but

32:44

we interpret it by looking back

32:46

in hindsight 2020. And so you

32:48

look at your life, you know,

32:50

fully understand what's going on and

32:52

why you, like when you first

32:54

got married, for example. I don't

32:56

know, when I married Jill, I

32:58

had no clue what I was

33:00

getting into. No, well, I thought

33:02

I did. You thought you did.

33:04

Yeah. Yeah. And then you look

33:06

back at, you know, I've been

33:08

married almost 25 years now, and

33:10

I'm like, okay. I understand it

33:12

a whole lot more now looking

33:14

back on it. And I think

33:16

that that is also how the

33:18

scriptures laid out as well, that

33:20

you, we live it forward, but

33:23

we really can't understand that, for

33:25

we understand by looking back, and

33:27

you see this beautiful story. It

33:29

just is almost like seamless. Yeah.

33:31

And then it expands the bigness

33:33

of what Jesus accomplices. It's not,

33:35

it is about my own personal

33:37

salvation and my own personal liberation

33:39

vote from sin and a hope

33:41

of eternal life even beyond this

33:43

world. But there's also a big

33:45

huge collective salvation that Christ has

33:47

accomplished on the crosses. Well, plus

33:49

you think about the amount of

33:51

time we're talking about here. This

33:53

was, so the Samaritan situation. that's

33:55

being referenced here in these two

33:57

cases. This has been going on.

33:59

in Jesus' time frame for 750

34:01

years. I mean, they might have

34:03

been 300 years old with them.

34:05

Way back in the Revolutionary days,

34:07

well, double that. And that's when

34:09

the Samari issue came in. They

34:11

were hauled off into slavery. When

34:13

they came back, they were repopulated.

34:15

They were all these Gentile influences.

34:17

So they had been disregarded for

34:19

750 years. And so when Jesus

34:22

comes in and starts telling these

34:24

stories, everybody's like, what? I mean,

34:26

like, this has been a long

34:28

period of time. Well, I found

34:30

it fascinating. When I read NT

34:32

Wright's commentary on John, of course,

34:34

he got into the geography of

34:36

it, and that's what led me

34:38

to this Luke 10. Because when

34:40

he started that story, when he

34:42

said, in reply, a man was

34:44

going down from Jerusalem to Jericho.

34:46

Well, I didn't realize they did

34:48

that. to avoid going through Samaria.

34:50

Right. And so he tells the

34:52

story. Well, unless you kind of

34:54

know the geography, you don't get

34:56

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34:58

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that's why when you get to

36:28

John Ford, they didn't take the

36:30

Jerusalem Jericho. They went through some

36:32

area and then his disciples were

36:34

so shocked. What in the world

36:36

are you doing in the middle

36:38

of the day? Talking to a

36:40

Samaritan woman, because it says that

36:42

in John Ford, they don't associate.

36:44

And not only a woman, this

36:46

woman got a shady past here.

36:48

And you're alone. I mean, he

36:50

broke so many... We talked to

36:52

all the taboos that he broke.

36:54

Right. Exactly. Well, when I read

36:56

this, I'll go over and read

36:58

that book too, which I thought

37:00

was fascinating about how Jesus tells

37:02

those stories, which is why I

37:04

was bringing up the chosen. They

37:06

were making the same illustration. It's

37:08

like, even the guys in the

37:10

story of Jesus' story, he wants

37:12

them to. You know, there's a

37:15

love for you. Now, who is

37:17

my neighbor? Well, and that's why,

37:19

you know, the Pharisees and the

37:21

scribes who watched... because there are

37:23

modern day Pharisees who watched the

37:25

chosen. They're like, well, that story

37:27

is not in the Bible. But

37:29

the principle was the same. Not

37:31

only was he for Samaritans, he

37:33

was for the people who tried

37:35

to kill this guy. I mean,

37:37

he offers forgiveness to everybody, which

37:39

is why I don't know. It's

37:41

really moving to watch. But when

37:43

I read the first part of

37:45

Luke 10, you know, that story,

37:47

he tells who is my neighbor,

37:49

that whole story came from there,

37:51

which you see John Ford, a

37:53

similar instance where she became basically

37:55

an evangelist. A missionary. Yeah, for

37:57

Jesus. You couldn't have worse credentials

37:59

to... or criteria to bring before

38:01

the Lord as far as somebody

38:03

you would think, oh here's your

38:05

missionary, you know, this woman you

38:07

met at the Well, and they

38:09

really do a good job on

38:12

the on the chosen of showing

38:14

her her character and all. I

38:16

mean, it's like, you're like, oh

38:18

my goodness, this woman's a piece

38:20

of work. I mean, that comes

38:22

across there. But once she went

38:24

all in for Jesus, There's something

38:26

you start liking about it. All

38:28

her quirks all of a sudden

38:30

seem like, oh, this, she's a

38:32

piece of work, you know, in

38:34

a good way now. But I

38:36

thought about this, Luke 10, and

38:38

this is going to tie in

38:40

to where we are in John

38:42

4. Because even though the king,

38:44

I was surprised at how few

38:46

times the kingdom is mentioned in

38:48

the book of John, I mean,

38:50

it's mentioned in the Gospels a

38:52

lot, I think it was like

38:54

77 times. Especially in Matthew, yeah.

38:56

He had just said, when it

38:58

is mentioned in John, it's very

39:00

profound, because you remember in John

39:02

3 where it said, you can't

39:04

see it or enter it. He

39:06

told Nicodemus, the kingdom, unless you're

39:08

born again. And then he's like,

39:11

you know, born of the spirit.

39:13

He was introducing the kingdom in

39:15

action. This is what the kingdom

39:17

is going to look like and

39:19

part of this is going to

39:21

people that you wouldn't have gone

39:23

to before. So in the same

39:25

chapter of that story. about the

39:27

good Samaritan, which I find fascinating.

39:29

And you read the same commentary.

39:31

I deal with NT, right? You

39:33

made a big deal about now.

39:35

You know, when you think about

39:37

how Samaritan is used, it's a

39:39

positive thing. Right. I think about

39:41

the Samaritan's person. I don't know

39:43

if there's other ministries, because they

39:45

focus on there. Yeah. But back

39:47

in this day, when you mentioned

39:49

the word Samaritan, that was the

39:51

worst thing. Yeah we interpret that

39:53

backwards now like that's horrible but

39:55

if you were a Pharisee and

39:57

the day of Jesus that was

39:59

a place of prestige and which

40:01

by the way same time frame

40:03

almost 600 years that had been

40:05

a positive from Daniel all the

40:08

way down yeah when Jesus says

40:10

you Pharisees you brood of vipers

40:12

the brood of vipers is the

40:14

insult the Pharisees is the identification

40:16

of who he's talking to right

40:18

now we say you Pharisee and

40:20

that we associate it with brood

40:22

with brood of vipers But in

40:24

that, think about those days, man,

40:26

that was, that was just the

40:28

opposite. That was the, those, those

40:30

are the, the gurus, those were

40:32

the religious gurus. You wanted that

40:34

guy on your team, you know.

40:36

Well, it's like, I think the

40:38

sermon on the mount sent the

40:40

Pharisees, because he says, unless your

40:42

righteousness surpassed those of the Pharisees

40:44

and the scribes, the teachers of

40:46

the law. Right. So. And you're

40:48

like, well, it was his point,

40:50

because they kind of looked at

40:52

everything from a legal standpoint. It's

40:54

like, well, we haven't killed anybody,

40:56

you know, but then so Jesus

40:58

in that summer on the mountain,

41:00

it's like, yeah, but did you

41:02

want to? Yeah, because it got

41:04

to the heart, which is really

41:07

what what is after. Well, they

41:09

had written 24 volumes of material

41:11

on the Sabbath, not pages. volumes,

41:13

books. They didn't want to yield

41:15

their heart, which I think is

41:17

the main point of the tax

41:19

in John Ford is, and I

41:21

just did, actually I just did

41:23

this this week, so this is

41:25

like hits home. Because you know,

41:27

when the storm hit North Carolina.

41:29

Now we didn't have water for

41:31

eight weeks. Like it washed out

41:33

20 something miles of pipes that

41:35

brought water into Asheville area. So

41:37

nobody had water. And we had

41:39

a swimming pool full of water,

41:41

but obviously you couldn't drink it

41:43

because it was like disgusting. But

41:45

we would go out there every

41:47

day and then we'd fill up

41:49

five gallon buckets of that water.

41:51

And then we'd use that to

41:53

flush the toilet. We'd use it

41:55

to... We'd have to boil it

41:57

and it was like, I mean,

41:59

it was a process. I mean,

42:01

it was like, we had to

42:04

keep going back to the source

42:06

and go through this whole process

42:08

of making this water where we

42:10

could actually live off of it.

42:12

Well, I decided like as soon

42:14

as when the storm was over

42:16

and everybody was back at it,

42:18

I said, you know what's never

42:20

going to happen to me again.

42:22

Somebody's digging a well. I'm digging

42:24

a well. And so I got

42:26

a permit. I live in the

42:28

middle of town and everybody's like,

42:30

what are you doing? Like, I

42:32

mean, I'm getting phone calls. What's

42:34

that big rig? I got, I

42:36

got a huge rig. I get

42:38

my yard. We're digging a well.

42:40

I dug a well this week.

42:42

And I'm not ever going to

42:44

be without water again. I've been

42:46

a generator too. But they don't

42:48

catch me. But this is like

42:50

the settingeritan woman. She has to

42:52

go to this place to get

42:54

water all the time and you

42:56

just imagine how exhausting that is

42:58

to go fill up and then

43:01

it gets low, go back, fill

43:03

up, it gets low throughout the

43:05

week, it gets low throughout the

43:07

week, it's the continual thing. So

43:09

the question about where do we

43:11

worship is not disassociated with where

43:13

she's at. Because what she's saying

43:15

is like where do we worship

43:17

is, where is the spiritual well

43:19

that I go to get filled

43:21

up? For you guys that's in

43:23

Jerusalem at the temple. We Samaritans,

43:25

our spiritual well is up there

43:27

on the mountain. So Jesus, where

43:29

is the real spiritual well to

43:31

get filled out? And so the

43:33

call here is that he says

43:35

if anyone drinks the water that

43:37

I give him, will never be

43:39

thirsty again. The water I will

43:41

give him will become, so it's

43:43

progressive language, will become in him

43:45

a well, a spring of water

43:47

welling up to eternal life. And

43:49

so I think about that is

43:51

almost like what the big picture

43:53

of what God's doing in John

43:55

4. It is all kinds of

43:57

people, but even more than that,

44:00

he's saving all kinds of people.

44:02

But now worship is going to

44:04

actually take place in the inner

44:06

part of your soul. And that

44:08

will be the source of life.

44:10

It'll never run dry. He's gonna

44:12

let him human beings now. That's

44:14

why I think it's important that

44:16

when it says she let John

44:18

made a point to say in

44:20

verse 28 she left her water

44:22

jar and went back. Yeah, you

44:24

know, because you think all the

44:26

work you do it every time.

44:28

I mean, it's like it's why

44:30

she came there, but not really.

44:32

Exactly. She had found something so

44:34

much greater. Yeah. That that temporary.

44:36

thing that you always gripe about

44:38

was irrelevant. Which is the point

44:40

of the book of Hebrews. If

44:42

you think about the Hebrew writers

44:44

making the case that you got

44:46

to keep going back between the

44:48

Holy of Holies year after year,

44:50

the priests, got at its home

44:52

for the sins of the people,

44:54

year after year, but not with

44:57

Jesus. One sacrifice for all time.

44:59

Yeah, as funny as the house

45:01

we lived at before where we

45:03

are now. when we were building

45:05

that house we were the first

45:07

people Mac oh and on the

45:09

land out there and we were

45:11

the first people that built so

45:13

there was a road that was

45:15

built that would lead to other

45:17

houses so since we were the

45:19

first ones we got to name

45:21

the road so we were thinking

45:23

of all the different names to

45:25

name it one day the bulldozer

45:27

was back there moving around some

45:29

earth and he came across a

45:31

spring and when he rolled over

45:33

the top of it, I mean,

45:35

it looked like a geyser when

45:37

I just happened to be watching

45:39

it when this happened. And I

45:41

mean, water shot up like 40

45:43

feet in the air, you know?

45:45

And I was like, wow, look

45:47

at that. And then it hit

45:49

me. this story and I thought

45:51

I know her name in the

45:53

road, Wellspring Road. But it wasn't

45:56

just the water reminded me, but

45:58

I thought we're here as a

46:00

spiritual plan. Would you rather name

46:02

the oil spring road? Well, if

46:04

I would have been Texas T,

46:06

you know, but the Beverly Hibbles

46:08

came later when we moved in

46:10

the neighborhood. But when I saw

46:12

that I thought we're the wellspring

46:14

of life and so it from

46:16

that point forward, everything about us

46:18

living in that place was we

46:20

have to be Christ here. And

46:22

so I felt like we were

46:24

then his missionaries doing what he

46:26

calls through by his spirit. And

46:28

so it's just that same reminder

46:30

seeing that. And to this day,

46:32

it's still West, we're long gone,

46:34

we haven't been there in 15

46:36

years, but still West Spring Road.

46:38

I want to finish my point

46:40

about the kingdom. So in Luke

46:42

10, when it starts, because we've

46:44

already talked about this where we

46:46

got to, with this guy who

46:48

answered right, by the way, this.

46:50

teacher of the law when he

46:53

said love the lord you got

46:55

with all your heart soul strength

46:57

and mind. Yeah he actually condensed

46:59

it into the right right yeah

47:01

but Jesus kind of like you

47:03

deal with the sermon in the

47:05

mount said well you know well

47:07

who's your neighbor? I mean but

47:09

because then when he heard us

47:11

American like well wait a minute

47:13

Yeah, I mean that was the

47:15

point. And the rich young ruler,

47:17

I thought about him here too.

47:19

Remember he answered right? Exactly. But

47:21

not really. He kept all the

47:23

commandments. He kept all the commandments,

47:25

but he forgot about the give

47:27

everything. So that's why I was

47:29

bringing this up about that episode,

47:31

because when Jesus sent out the

47:33

70, when he said in Luke

47:35

10, it said, after this, the

47:37

Lord appointed, in some translation, say

47:39

72, because they took... two of

47:41

the original table of nations in

47:43

Brooklyn have, but it'll say or

47:45

70. And the reason I'm making

47:47

a point about this is we're

47:49

going back to the table of

47:52

nations at the Tower of Babel.

47:54

There was 70 nations listed. I

47:56

just don't think that's a coincidence

47:58

that here now, because we all

48:00

know how that went, terribly, you

48:02

know, and that's why God chose

48:04

a specific nation. By the way,

48:06

there was also 70 people that

48:08

wind up escaping Israel to go

48:10

to Egypt that started the people

48:12

there. So, now granted, you got

48:14

to be a little bit of

48:16

a Bible nerd to get this,

48:18

but that was part of the...

48:20

rebellions in the beginning that all

48:22

the nations were divided that's and

48:24

that's why the Jews hate the

48:26

Samaritan so much and there's a

48:28

division among people that we still

48:30

see it in modern day America

48:32

you know and I mean it's

48:34

just what humans do we like

48:36

our little counts and in some

48:38

counts we hate other counts of

48:40

people and hears Jesus trying to

48:42

bring everybody together you get back

48:44

to the acts too where they

48:46

all hear the one language from

48:49

from a group of men despite

48:51

them speaking different languages because God

48:53

is one of the themes in

48:55

this whole book is he's making

48:57

everything that went wrong right it

48:59

just took a few hundred years

49:01

to do it and I think

49:03

this is a shadow here but

49:05

I want to there's something I

49:07

had missed here that I think

49:09

is very powerful in Luke 10

49:11

what watch what how this goes

49:13

he sends out the 70 others

49:15

and sent them two by two

49:17

ahead of him to every town

49:19

and place where he was about

49:21

to go. And he told them,

49:23

the harvest is plentiful, but the

49:25

workers are few. And I came

49:27

here because that he's going to

49:29

say the same thing in John

49:31

Ford. We're fixed to read it.

49:33

He does. And so ask the

49:35

Lord of the harvest therefore to

49:37

send out workers into his harvest

49:39

field. Go and I'm sending you

49:41

like lambs among wolves. Do not

49:43

take a purse, a bag, or

49:46

sandals and do not greet anyone

49:48

on the road when you enter

49:50

a house, first say peace to

49:52

this house. If a man of

49:54

peace is there, your peaceful rest

49:56

on him. If not, it will

49:58

return to you. Stay in that

50:00

house. He didn't drink him, whatever

50:02

they give you, but the workers deserves

50:04

his wages. Do not move around

50:06

from house to house. So he's

50:08

like, send him out his missionaries.

50:10

When you enter a town and

50:13

are welcome, eat, what is said

50:15

before, you heal the sick. So

50:17

he's giving him this ability and this

50:19

power who are there and tell them,

50:21

but watch what he told him to

50:24

tell. The kingdom of God is among

50:26

you. So then watch. When you enter

50:28

a town and are not welcome,

50:30

go into its streets and say,

50:32

even the dust of your town

50:34

that sticks to our feet, we

50:36

wipe off against you. Yet be sure

50:38

of this, the kingdom of God is

50:41

at hand. I tell you it will be

50:43

more bearable in that day, you

50:45

know, for Sodom, than for that

50:47

town. So whether they embrace you

50:49

or whether they don't, he said you

50:51

have the same message. The kingdom

50:54

has come to you. And so it made

50:56

me think. The reason, when

50:58

you have that conversation

51:00

with Nicodemus, and then

51:02

he uses the same phraseology

51:05

with the Samaritan woman

51:07

about, you know, the

51:09

harvest is plentiful, and I

51:11

mean, basically you see the kingdom

51:13

in action here. The king,

51:15

when you think, well, what is

51:18

the kingdom? Well, it's where the

51:20

king rains. But I've always

51:22

looked at that as a

51:24

phrase, but it's literally... It's

51:26

action. And what does the

51:28

king want to do? Well,

51:30

he wants to bring all

51:32

the nations back together because

51:34

all the nations have people

51:36

and I made all the people.

51:39

And it just made me look

51:41

at that as more of an

51:43

action that Jesus here he

51:45

is limited in space because

51:47

he became flesh. He's he's

51:50

one man. He introduces this

51:52

idea of the spirit

51:54

coming and That being a

51:56

prerequisite to entering and seeing the

51:58

kingdom. So now... Now here we

52:00

are, fast forward, we go back to

52:02

that act too, Jesus pours out his

52:05

spirit as he's ascending to the right

52:07

hand of God, and now through his

52:09

spirit you have thousands of Jesus's going

52:11

around. And what would that be caught?

52:13

You're seeing the kingdom being among you,

52:15

where the king rains. And it just,

52:18

it made me, it kind of clicked

52:20

for me. It's like when he said

52:22

in the harvest is plentiful, all we

52:24

need to go out there. Well. No,

52:26

we just need to let Jesus reign

52:28

in our heart and do what he

52:31

does. We do Jesus stuff, which is

52:33

bringing people together, which is, you know,

52:35

recognizing people's problems and entering Jesus into

52:37

that realm. So it kind of made

52:39

me think, we always think about one-on-one

52:41

Bible studies and all, it's actually three,

52:43

you're representing the fullness of Christ, which

52:46

all the deity lives in bodily form,

52:48

and you have his spirit. So it's

52:50

basically three on one, every encounter, every

52:52

conversation you have, but it's not really

52:54

you. You're introducing where the king reigns.

52:56

So that was the connection. Which is

52:59

why you think about the, if someone's

53:01

not receptive, you, I'm out to our

53:03

church this all the time, like you

53:05

don't have to manufacture some type of

53:07

evangelistic effort, like you really don't have

53:09

to do that. And what will happen

53:11

if you take that on. is you'll

53:14

spend a lot of time like trying

53:16

to chase people down. I don't really

53:18

see that that's, I mean, it seems

53:20

like this this phrase, the harvest is

53:22

never the problem. Yeah. And I found

53:24

that to be true as our ministry

53:27

has been led by the Holy Spirit.

53:29

I've never found lacking people who want

53:31

to see a different life, people who

53:33

want to taste the kingdom. I've never

53:35

seen like in my entire life as

53:37

to the degree that the ministry I'm

53:40

involved in a spirit led and spirit

53:42

filled. I've seen. The harvest be plentiful.

53:44

The problem is always on the worker

53:46

side. Because I want to contain it.

53:48

I'd rather not be spirit-filled. I'd rather

53:50

just, I don't want to yield my

53:52

life. But when I do yield my

53:55

life, that the harvest comes. And I

53:57

think that's what you were talking about.

53:59

Well, and the seekers will find, which

54:01

is the key. It's like this datumone.

54:03

The one thing they said that's helping

54:05

me the most about anything else is

54:08

they said, don't focus on what you

54:10

can't eat. And that's a simple little

54:12

saying. But you know what, it helps

54:14

me a lot. And it's the same

54:16

thing when it comes to the idea

54:18

of helping people. There are people that

54:20

are looking, there are people that are

54:23

not. All we're doing is doing with

54:25

spirit is letting us to do. Well,

54:27

that's why Jesus said Matthew 633, seek

54:29

first his kingdom. Well, you're never going

54:31

to stop doing that. Right. Never. You're

54:33

always going to seek first the kingdom

54:36

because you have given your life to

54:38

the king. So wherever you go, you

54:40

have his spirit. Which is why his

54:42

disciples came up and he basically does

54:44

the same illustration he did with the

54:46

Samaritan woman because they're like, hey, Rabbi,

54:49

you need to get something to eat.

54:51

And he's like, because I know based

54:53

on what all we've just said, like

54:55

you're missing, you're missing the big picture

54:57

here. And because they, they were like,

54:59

what's he doing with this woman? He's

55:01

like, I have food to eat. that

55:04

you know nothing about. I feel the

55:06

same way when I do events because

55:08

I don't we don't travel well as

55:10

Robertson's and so I don't eat for

55:12

I speak but I'm I'm always amazed

55:14

at how people who put on the

55:17

event are obsessed with getting me some

55:19

food and I'm like no I don't

55:21

know you don't like our food it

55:23

becomes like well we let me take

55:25

you a box and did this for

55:27

you but I'm like What I'm fixing

55:29

to share is we're not worried about

55:32

food right now, and it's the same

55:34

thing So he launches into that speech

55:36

about my food is to do the

55:38

will of him who sent me under

55:40

finish his work Which he's also setting

55:42

the stage when we get to Chapter

55:45

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