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I am unashamed. What

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about you?

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Welcome back to Unashamed. I do

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want to take a moment to welcome all of

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our Spotify listeners. I

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know we're being featured on Spotify on this episode.

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Dad, do you know what the word Spotify means?

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I have no idea. Spotify. Just thinking about Spotify. Spotify.

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Spotify. I'm like, what? You got to remember. You got nothing. I'm confused.

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I'm computer ignorant. So that

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would, that would. It

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is an interesting word. It would shut me down right there. Al

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hopes it

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means Joe Rogan deal. Yeah,

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that's right. I'm thinking Joe Rogan deal. We know Joe Rogan

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is featured on here as well. I thought Phil

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was going to say, you know, in the most important

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thing in duck hunting,

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I guess besides being camouflage is

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to be on the exact spot.

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So I thought he might say you need

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to identify

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the spot. So it's a combination

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of identify and spot together.

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You got Spotify. We could add that to

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the hunting lexicon. We could say,

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you know, there's ducks down there. They're up there on the

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upper pipeline up there. That's where we

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Spotify them. Yeah, that's what I'm

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saying, which I think goes in with the concept

1:17

of what Spotify is. You use terminology

1:20

like that in

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and amongst a bunch of rednecks, you

1:23

won't get the first place. Well, I'm trying

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to explain. We're expanding.

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We're bringing in the love to the redneck world. So it's

1:31

a spot where people can listen

1:33

to certain podcasts.

1:35

And

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by the way, for those of you new, if it's the

1:41

first time you listen, this is kind of what it's like.

1:43

We're kind of a we were a Bible

1:46

study group, but it's Robertson style.

1:48

And that's what we do. And so we're about

1:51

to get into the book of Luke. We're about halfway

1:53

through the book of Luke. It's kind of a

1:55

Bible study. It's kind of a Bible study, but you come

1:57

right in the middle, just like we've been talking about the blind

1:59

movie.

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movie, which is our new movie coming

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out. But we're excited to

2:04

have the Spotify folks in. And

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by the way, you can

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submit questions via Spotify

2:12

that will make it to us and maybe

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hear your questions at some point on air.

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So

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welcome Spotify listeners. Wouldn't

2:19

you rather be on a team whereby

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God has committed

2:26

to us the message

2:29

of reconciliation Jesus,

2:31

his death for us, his burial, reservoir.

2:34

We are therefore Christ's ambassadors

2:37

as though God were making his appeal through

2:40

us. We implore you on

2:43

Christ's behalf, be

2:47

reconciled to God, God

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who made him who

2:52

had no sin Jesus to

2:54

be sin for us so that

2:56

in him

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we might become the righteousness

3:00

of God. What a plan

3:02

that carried through and went

3:05

worldwide. Pretty amazing boys.

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I

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mean worldwide. Yeah. You

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saved man.

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And we get to still ongoing.

3:15

Yeah.

3:15

And we get to talk about the Bible, which

3:18

is life changing. As we've already mentioned the

3:20

story of Jesus along with Jesus

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words, which is what we're studying now. So it's

3:25

changed us and helped change other people as well.

3:28

So Zach, I feel like we need a

3:30

drum roll. There

3:32

we go. That's not work. Drum

3:35

roll. Today is the day we've been

3:37

talking about this movie for

3:39

so long. And today is the day

3:41

it finally hits America. And

3:45

we're super

3:45

excited about it. Today

3:47

we today we find out if our baby is

3:50

ugly or beautiful. Y'all.

3:52

We've done the

3:55

hard labor. Morbid. Oh, that is. labor-pane.

4:00

I mean, we've been... Labor-pane. Well, thanks

4:03

been too immersed in the project, Jase.

4:05

Yeah. I'm nervous. You

4:09

know, you put this much energy into something.

4:11

I've never... Well,

4:13

it just knows that it's the

4:16

effort that counts. So no matter what happens,

4:19

the movie is great. You

4:21

guys did a great job putting it out there. And so whether

4:24

folks, it gets in front of people or not, and hopefully

4:27

they're seeing it and share it with other people, I guess is

4:29

up to them. But we

4:31

really do... We shut it around. We

4:33

really do encourage you to go watch it.

4:36

If you hadn't already got your tickets, you better get them. Zach

4:38

mentioned on a previous podcast

4:41

that we were going up against the

4:43

mighty Taylor Swift here shortly.

4:47

Yeah. Yeah. That's in two weeks. So we

4:49

got a... Oh yeah. How did we... We should have

4:51

asked Jase. Jase could have got a

4:53

stand with Taylor, you know? We're acquaintances.

4:55

I probably could have pushed that through, but too late.

4:58

I should have called you because you could have probably called her

5:00

and just said, do you mind pushing your release out

5:02

for about two weeks? You probably could have pulled

5:04

that through. Yeah. Or just

5:06

did some kind of joint venture,

5:08

you know. Yeah,

5:10

we'll talk about your thing if you talk about

5:13

it. We'll

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promote views on everything. Yeah, that's right. I

5:17

mean, come on, Taylor. Give us some love.

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Well, we've been sending out to

5:23

all his friends, screeners

5:26

of the film. I got one this morning. He

5:28

sends me what they say back. And so

5:30

he sent it over to Dave Ramsey, who was

5:32

just raved about it. And then

5:34

said, man, this is... I said, I'm not crying.

5:37

You are. That's what he told Billy. I'm not crying.

5:39

You are. But he said, man, I think

5:41

many people are going to come to know Jesus by

5:44

watching this.

5:45

And everyone that we've showed it to has

5:47

kind of said the same thing. So today's the day,

5:51

the 28th. I've been talking about

5:53

the 28th for so long. The 28th of September

5:55

is here before us. And

5:58

yeah, it was kind of cool. You know,

5:59

I was thinking about

6:01

when we went back and we did reshoots

6:03

on this film after we

6:06

had did the final cut. And there was, there's

6:08

one scene in the film, you'll see it tonight

6:10

if you go watch it, or this weekend.

6:14

It's a, it's a salvation scene really where

6:17

Phil, his character Phil shares the gospel

6:19

with someone. And, and

6:22

when I, when we, when Andrew

6:24

wrote it, I was like, man, I just, it kind of feels

6:26

a little

6:27

too on the nose. And so I said, let's

6:29

kind of figure out a better way we can do it where it's

6:32

not that, I don't know, it's

6:34

not on the nose. And we're sitting there in the

6:36

room and the actor who is not even a believer

6:38

and has had a lot of issues with, I

6:41

think he's, he's shared publicly. He's had

6:43

issues with substance abuse in his own life

6:45

and, and some issues with his own

6:47

earthly father and things like that. He said, man, no,

6:50

do not cut any of this scene. He said,

6:52

he said, he said, I'm a method actor.

6:55

And he said, which means I try to connect emotionally

6:57

with

6:59

whatever the scene is that I'm doing. And

7:01

he said, man, when I was reading that last night

7:04

in my hotel room, that whole thing about dying

7:06

to yourself and being born again,

7:08

he was like, basically telling us the gospel

7:10

that was in this particular scene. He said, man,

7:13

that resonated with me. I found myself

7:16

in a puddle of tears on the floor

7:18

of my hotel room, just weeping. I connected

7:21

with that, that idea of the old

7:23

man being buried in a new man

7:25

coming forth in that

7:27

do not change that. And we all just kind

7:29

of looked around because we're all believers and we're like,

7:32

okay, we're going to go with it. And

7:35

man, it really did come out on film, you

7:37

know, that, that idea

7:40

right there that you, that you

7:42

can become a new person in Christ,

7:44

that you can be someone

7:47

different, that the old man can be

7:49

gone and all of the sin and

7:51

all of the shame and all of the guilt

7:54

can be buried and a new man can come

7:56

out disconnected with Jesus by

7:58

the resurrection.

7:59

And so tonight

8:01

will be the night where you guys get

8:04

to see that. You know, it's interesting that,

8:06

cause, uh, I didn't know all that.

8:08

It's the first I've heard that. And, but

8:11

when I watched that scene, the, what

8:13

got me was then watching the rest of the film,

8:16

um, is that the,

8:19

the actor playing dad, there

8:21

was a confidence about him. I

8:24

mean, really is a good actor. There's a confidence about

8:26

that scene that you

8:28

could tell, and I didn't know it at the time,

8:30

cause it was early in the movie, but when

8:32

you didn't go back and watch him where he doesn't

8:35

have confidence, where he's trying to figure it out,

8:37

he's trying to do what's best for us and

8:39

the family, but he's unsure of himself,

8:41

which kept leading him into bad decisions.

8:44

Now it hit me when looking

8:46

back, I thought, man, the man

8:49

dad became was really

8:51

the way that guy portrayed that at the beginning, that was so

8:53

confident to share the good news in the gospel.

8:55

So you do get confidence from that,

8:57

what you described, and that's a, that's a

9:00

beautiful story cause really the whole idea of the movie

9:02

is to target people who don't know Jesus. So,

9:05

uh, for someone to hear and remember the

9:07

power is not in the Robertson's

9:09

or dad. There are powers in the gospel message.

9:11

That's where the power comes from, which is why he was

9:13

so impacted by it. Yeah. And he's completely

9:16

unchurched, which that's the thing. I mean, it's like,

9:18

this is not someone who has

9:20

been raised in any of these guys from England, um,

9:22

and, uh, he hasn't been raised in kind

9:25

of evangelical culture, anything like

9:27

that. And it was, I don't know. Like, would you

9:30

see someone and they,

9:32

and they hear the power of the gospel

9:34

and then kind of articulate it back to you. And

9:36

they're like, no, there's something there about this

9:38

dying to self born

9:41

again. Like, yeah, yeah. Cause these are religious terms

9:43

we use a lot,

9:44

but that's somebody who's not religious that hears that

9:46

as like, that's beautiful. There's something

9:49

there, you know? Um, well, they

9:51

do have churches in England, but then

9:55

there's what they do, but it's, yeah, it's

9:57

my, well, he's from England. Yeah.

10:00

I mean, I just mean, he's not, yeah, good point.

10:02

I mean, I'm just saying he's not raised in

10:04

kind of the Southern, you know, Bible

10:07

belt culture is what I'm, is what I was getting.

10:09

And by the way, most of the churches I went to in England

10:12

were museums now. Planning,

10:14

but there is a movement of God, but there is a great

10:16

movement there. Well, I'm planning a trip to England

10:19

and I didn't want to get over there and say, Hey, tell

10:21

that we got some churches over here. I

10:25

know there are believers at England, but

10:28

I think that we did come from there. That

10:30

guy, they miss it without

10:33

realizing that they just missed it.

10:35

Good news,

10:37

gospel,

10:39

Holy spirit,

10:41

therefore in the waiting

10:44

and the ones who renounce their

10:47

sins

10:48

and turn to Jesus,

10:50

then it really becomes critical

10:53

because the fruit

10:55

that they will now bear

10:58

when the change is over by

11:00

the power of the spirit,

11:02

love,

11:04

good thing, love, joy.

11:07

Be good for people to have peace,

11:10

patience, kindness,

11:12

goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.

11:18

That's what

11:19

is

11:20

on the burner. That's what is

11:22

denied or embraced

11:24

with that guy on the floor. He

11:27

had the right idea. If the movie

11:31

has the powers there,

11:34

if the movie,

11:37

many, many, many

11:39

are converted,

11:42

well worth the effort, no matter what

11:44

anyone says

11:46

the numbers.

11:48

Yeah. And that it's a story of the gospel

11:50

that does that. I mean, that's what

11:53

we're moved by story. It's not rocket

11:55

science. It's easier than that.

11:57

Well, it's a combination. I've noticed.

12:00

You know, we all kind of went to the same place without

12:03

having a meeting about going to the same place.

12:06

But because

12:06

a lot of people, well, he hadn't heard the message,

12:09

but I keep hearing this word power, which

12:12

is what I was thinking. That's

12:14

what's unique about

12:17

the story of Jesus,

12:19

is that it is a story. It's

12:21

words that you tell someone, but

12:24

then there's God's power, which is, you

12:26

know, in Luke, we're talking about all these parables

12:28

and what the kingdom is like, and it's like you

12:30

plant a seed. And we're going to talk

12:33

about the mustard seed. We just got finished

12:35

about the fig tree and it growing.

12:38

You're like, why isn't he talking about things planted?

12:40

And when you look at Paul's

12:43

take on it, you know, to the Corinthians,

12:45

just for a couple of verses,

12:47

in

12:50

chapter one, verse 17, you remember

12:52

when they were having all this controversy about who

12:54

was actually doing the baptized, they

12:56

were putting their faith in whoever baptized

12:59

them instead of the reason

13:01

for baptism. And he has that verse

13:03

in

13:04

chapter one and verse 17 that says,

13:06

but Christ sent me to preach

13:09

the gospel, not with

13:11

words of human wisdom,

13:13

lest the cross of Christ be

13:16

emptied of its power.

13:19

And then chapter two,

13:21

verse four, he says the same thing. My

13:23

message and my preaching were not with wise

13:26

and persuasive words, but with a demonstration

13:30

of the spirit's power so

13:32

that your faith might not rest on men's

13:35

wisdom, but on God's power. And

13:38

then what I think applies to our study in

13:40

Luke is chapter four, in verse 20,

13:43

he said the kingdom of God is not

13:45

a matter of word or

13:48

taught my translation is taught, but the Greek

13:50

word is words, but of

13:52

power.

13:55

And that's what's hard to describe

13:57

about it. You know, it's not just like we have

13:59

an idea.

13:59

Or I mean, you know, forgiveness is

14:02

great, but it's it's bigger than that that

14:04

being born I'm watching what he had done

14:06

to film

14:08

and yet

14:09

and he was

14:11

crawling on the floor

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Yeah, it's words that

15:53

point to a person who

15:57

has supernatural power

15:59

That transcends

16:02

years later into people's

16:04

lives. I mean, it's a connection

16:07

with heaven and heavenly

16:09

powers and unseen things

16:12

that if you did see would probably just

16:15

make you fall over into the fetal position.

16:17

And it's comparative though to yourself.

16:21

And so Zach described it, all of us

16:23

have struggles. And so depending

16:25

on how long we've been alive, those

16:28

troubles tend to accrue over

16:31

time. And so when you compare that

16:33

to the power of what you're reading and

16:35

listening to, you're like, there's no

16:37

comparison. I need that. Like time

16:39

is a critical issue because if

16:42

you look at all the conversion stories,

16:44

I've just real through them

16:47

years, 35,

16:49

40 years

16:51

of preaching the gospel. And

16:54

every time you really get to dissecting

16:58

it,

16:59

you

17:00

see

17:01

that they're in their late 20s, mid

17:05

to late 20s,

17:07

early 30s. Well,

17:08

they've got a track record.

17:10

They didn't have track record at 18, 17. Yeah,

17:13

you live in your parents. I

17:15

come so many come because I just noticed,

17:18

I said, they

17:19

were all running around 30 years old.

17:22

That's when they make the move. But they got a track record

17:24

now.

17:26

And the track record based on

17:28

in the face of the gospel of Jesus, the

17:31

gospel crushes it. You

17:34

can start over. Well, my theory

17:37

on that. You have to die and be

17:39

buried. We're fixing to get rid of you. And

17:42

they're like, and you

17:44

say, how old were you? And you were, how

17:46

old were you? I was 31. I

17:49

was 27. I was 28. I

17:51

was 29. I was 32. It's all. You

17:54

had to remember that's right after you made a mess of things.

17:56

Yeah. Well, not only that. You

17:58

have a track record and it's stinky.

17:59

But at Dad's point, it's more, and

18:02

it's even bigger than culture, because

18:04

even in Jesus' day, I guess when you were considered

18:06

now an adult, a person to listen

18:09

to, 30 years old, that's

18:11

when he started his ministry. So you're right,

18:13

cross-culturally even, that's about

18:16

the age that you finally

18:18

are like, okay, I got to decide what I'm going

18:20

to do here. Yeah. Sunday

18:24

morning there was a guy there and seated

18:26

over here, and we just

18:29

were talking, and we were talking, I would say

18:31

it was about 40,

18:33

50 people, but

18:36

I asked him what year it was in Iran,

18:39

and he said,

18:40

what year it is? He said,

18:42

well, it's 2023.

18:46

I said,

18:47

well,

18:48

that's what it is here in

18:49

America, where you are now.

18:52

So you came from Iran. Yeah.

18:55

I said, well, now you're here. I

18:57

said,

18:58

both countries

19:00

are dating time by

19:03

the same individual.

19:05

Iran along with America.

19:07

He said, I've

19:08

never thought about that. I

19:11

said, you count time by Jesus, just like we

19:13

do. Now you ought to make a move

19:15

on him. Well,

19:16

he obeyed the gospel here. 30 minutes

19:19

later, I was standing in the water

19:21

with him, starting over.

19:25

He's probably, I'm just

19:28

guessing here, but probably he was,

19:30

what's the bigger religious movement out

19:32

there? I mean. He's probably originally

19:35

Muslim. Muslim. I would guess probably being from

19:37

Iran. Well, the Muslim did change

19:39

the calendar, so they... They tried to get around

19:41

it. They kind of used it too. I love that what

19:43

Jay said. Jay put that

19:46

when he was talking about Paul's words, I

19:48

didn't come to you with wise and persuasive words,

19:51

lest across the empty divots power. I

19:53

came to you with a demonstration of the Spirit's power. Yeah,

19:56

I think that... Because I want to clear something up too. Like

20:00

we get a lot of, not a lot. We've gotten some pushback

20:03

on people when we say, or if you hear

20:05

somebody on the podcast say that they converted somebody,

20:07

you know, Oh, you didn't convert anybody. That was God. No, no

20:09

one's claiming to convert

20:12

anybody in terms of like, we, it is the Holy

20:14

Spirit, everybody on this podcast believes that it

20:16

is the power of the Holy Spirit. That

20:19

can fix people of their sin

20:21

that, that the conversion is done

20:23

by the spirit. What we do, what we're,

20:26

if anyone says they hear, we just mean that there's

20:28

somebody who's got to tell them. You know, Romans 10 Paul

20:30

says somebody's got

20:32

to preach the gospel to them. And so we talk

20:35

about, and they hear less people share. Well,

20:37

but, but I skipped over the

20:39

verse that addressed that in the first four chapters

20:42

of to the Corinthians

20:44

when he said, I planted the seed.

20:47

Paul speaking of himself a ballast water,

20:50

but God made that makes it grow. And

20:53

that's why, yeah. But somebody's got to plant the seed

20:55

that like, well, yeah, that's past. There's

20:58

one thing when you, you come to Christ,

21:02

you hear this power laden

21:05

message. You know, faith comes through

21:07

the message, but there's a power in

21:09

that via the Holy Spirit that is

21:11

unleashed. And then it, it

21:13

is seen by the world in the response

21:16

and the transformation and the repentance

21:19

process, but then you house

21:21

that same power. So when you go out,

21:24

cause a lot of people, their biggest excuse is,

21:26

is like, well, I don't want to hear what you have to say,

21:29

cause you're a center, just like me. But

21:31

this is not about me. I have something inside

21:34

of me that is, that is not

21:36

just humanly,

21:38

you

21:39

know,

21:40

just based on my human origin. I,

21:43

you know, I'm now housing the

21:45

spirit of God, the mind

21:47

of Christ. And so that

21:49

is unleashed. I think the problem is, is it takes

21:52

time. So that, that, that argument

21:55

about,

21:56

well, you're flawed. So how dare, how can

21:58

you tell me about this?

21:59

But God has given given that to us

22:02

and we plant we water but God is still the

22:04

one making it making it grow

22:06

He makes it grow. That's a great

22:08

point You know thinking about like when you think about what

22:10

that in the film and in our

22:12

own lives of that baptism moment

22:15

What what that

22:16

like means I was thinking about

22:19

How much condemnation and

22:21

fear and anxiety? people

22:23

in our culture under

22:25

Just with fear that ma'am. What about

22:27

something that I did 15 years

22:30

ago that could

22:31

pop up and resurface You know today

22:33

and then I can be publicly humiliated.

22:36

I could be fired from my job I could be what

22:38

are all the consequences that can come

22:40

from the mistakes that we've made in the past

22:42

because now there's a There's a digital footprint

22:45

of almost everything we do. But but

22:47

what if somebody said there's a way That

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if you did this if you if you would follow

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this one person that all of your Digital

22:55

footprint would be just erased and they could

22:57

never be held against you That's

22:59

that's kind of what it is when you when you

23:01

come to Jesus It's that it's that that whole

23:04

footprint that whole all that evidence

23:06

that was against you all the mistakes That

23:09

and we've all made them. That's the thing. I think everybody

23:11

in the back of their mind. No one is good

23:13

enough Nobody really measures up

23:16

if you could see in the window of our own home

23:18

when we lose our temper when we Whatever

23:21

is happening there if you could see that side of us

23:23

Then nobody's left standing and and

23:25

what the gospel offers in Christ is

23:28

it does offer a way to be new it

23:30

offers a Pathway to

23:32

wholeness and a place

23:34

where there is no more shame and

23:37

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So we're in a loop 13, uh, is

25:45

where we're currently studying. We've been studying the book

25:48

of Luke. And, uh, we just got through

25:50

a text, a passage in Luke 12,

25:52

where Jesus gives a lot of warnings, uh,

25:55

to his disciples, but also there's a

25:57

large crowd that's gathered, there's

25:59

some. religious leaders that are there

26:02

as well. And, Jason, I think

26:04

the last time that we were in the

26:06

study, we did the first eight verses

26:09

of Luke, which is kind of an odd ...

26:11

Jesus was kind of using a couple of current

26:13

events. I believe 13. Yeah, Luke 13. Look,

26:18

it was a passage I wasn't

26:21

really familiar with other

26:23

than I had quoted Luke 13, three hundreds

26:27

of times where it says, unless you repent,

26:30

you will perish. I would use that verse

26:33

as like

26:35

a response. We got to repent,

26:37

Luke 13.

26:39

But as I read it, well,

26:41

I had missed that. Sounds

26:43

like you got a walker.

26:46

Yeah,

26:48

someone's upstairs. I didn't even know we had an

26:50

upstairs to this place. I didn't mean

26:52

to. Dang it. Y'all got some background

26:55

on this? We got a walker. We got ... Well,

26:58

when I hear anything, when we're talking about

27:00

the Bible and I start hearing something above

27:02

from a Bible, I hear, like, soldiers

27:05

marching. Yeah. I thought, what is

27:07

happening? Well, you said repent

27:10

or perish. And then I heard literally footsteps

27:13

above me. And so I was like, what?

27:15

Which is why I said earlier, it's kind of a Bible study

27:18

mixed in with like a washing sting

27:20

or foot. I mean, we don't break

27:22

for a while. There's a heavy legged redneck

27:24

walking above us. I hope. I'll

27:27

fix it too. It's just it, guys.

27:31

This is the podcast right here. If you first

27:33

time here, you're on Spotify. You

27:35

say, what do y'all do? We don't take

27:37

a break. We don't cut. We just ...

27:40

Jay's walked out of the room. Jay's

27:42

just parking the orders. What are y'all doing?

27:45

I mean, we're trying to open up the roof. And

27:48

they're literally just walking around.

27:52

So y'all figured it out? All right.

27:54

Problem solved.

27:55

All right.

27:56

Did you figure it out, Jay? Oh, yeah. Jay

27:59

just looked at me like, hey, I'm working.

27:59

in here.

28:00

I'm

28:04

still in a podcast. I

28:06

guess nobody can walk around on there on the

28:08

duck call room podcast. Just walk around

28:10

above your head. Yeah, he was gathering.

28:13

It's duck season and everybody

28:16

got a roll. I wasn't there this morning

28:18

and evidently they had a couple of bunches of teal

28:20

that came in and

28:23

they didn't shoot well. Phil's being

28:25

quiet over there. Most flew

28:27

away. Everybody's grumpy. Three

28:30

or four there

28:30

stayed there. I said, three

28:33

or four, I said we should have had eight or ten out of

28:35

that.

28:36

Yeah, it happened. It happened.

28:39

So in Luke 13, what

28:41

I had missed was

28:44

there was a question

28:46

involved here where the

28:49

Pharisees and I'll just read it just as a review.

28:52

It says, now there were some present

28:54

and this is 13.1. There were some

28:57

present at that time who told Jesus

28:59

about the Galileans whose blood

29:02

Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices.

29:05

It's not uncommon to what happens today.

29:08

Why does something bad happen?

29:10

If you're claiming to be from

29:13

God, why don't you fix these problems?

29:17

There's Pilate sacrificing

29:20

worshipers.

29:21

Where do you square with that?

29:23

Well then Jesus... We don't get the background, but they were

29:25

doing something godly and good

29:28

and then they suffered because of

29:30

Pontius Pilate. So Jesus

29:32

knew their heart and he said, do you think that these

29:34

Galileans were worse

29:36

sinners than all the other Galileans

29:38

because they suffered this way?

29:42

So he turned it around. He's like, so what are you saying?

29:44

They're worse. And he said, I tell

29:46

you no, but unless you repent, you'll

29:49

perish. And then he brings up another

29:51

tragedy. What about the 18 who

29:54

died when the tower of Salam fell

29:57

on them? Do you think they were more

29:59

guilty than all the others living in

30:01

Jerusalem. I tell you, no, but unless you repent,

30:04

you too will perish. And

30:07

you can go back and listen to the complete podcast,

30:10

but the point is we're all

30:12

perishable, we're all guilty

30:15

as adults. And it's not something

30:17

that we like to really think

30:19

about. And what he said is so radical.

30:23

Cause he's saying things happen. You know, we talked

30:25

about John nine with a man born blind.

30:28

They came up with the same thing. Cause

30:30

us as humans, no matter whether we

30:32

admit it or not, deep down,

30:34

we think, you know, if we're pretty good and

30:36

we do good things, then

30:39

we're going to have good things happen

30:41

to us. And we

30:44

basically

30:46

talked about

30:47

when things are going well,

30:49

that's a dang. That should be a danger

30:52

sign for your life. Well, especially

30:54

his, his, his main thrust

30:56

and point as we discussed earlier was

30:59

that you're nobody's good on

31:01

their own. You can't do it by yourself.

31:03

And so it winds up being a great picture

31:05

of grace because when he tells the parable

31:08

in six through nine, he basically

31:10

is saying, we deserve whatever

31:13

we get. We can't do it on our

31:16

own, but God and his long suffering

31:18

and patient says, but I'm going to give

31:20

you opportunities because of what

31:22

I've done. And so ultimately that's

31:24

where we land. It's not on us. It's on

31:27

its own Jesus. And so, but he's talking to a group

31:29

of people that haven't yet decided whether they're going

31:31

to follow him or not. Well, and in the midst

31:33

of warnings, you know, their main problem is

31:35

self, right? He's talking about self righteous

31:37

people. So in chapter 13, chapter 14,

31:40

chapter 15, you're fixed to see this

31:43

come up. You don't this self-rebeying is going

31:45

to be addressed. The

31:48

pig pen is going to come up in Luke 15,

31:51

you

31:51

know, but we're all familiar with that, what we

31:53

don't spend too much time talking

31:55

about. And I think it's even coming

31:58

out of chapter 12, when, you know, person. who's

32:00

got a lot of money, they're building bigger

32:02

barns. And so

32:04

what are they thinking? They're thinking, oh, I'm

32:06

somebody.

32:07

I'm almost, I'm not the

32:10

God, but I'm God-like. I

32:12

mean, and why would I have all these blessings?

32:14

Well, those kind of people is who

32:17

Jesus later describes as it's

32:19

very difficult for them to

32:21

ever come into the kingdom. Yeah, I think

32:23

a key thing here is too, you hear this

32:26

word self-righteous, and it's usually attributed

32:28

to what kind of people are religious people.

32:31

And it's easy as someone

32:33

who is religious and a Christian, it's

32:36

easier for me to kind of throw my own people under the bus,

32:38

but the truth is, is that you see

32:40

through this, I mean, this is really

32:43

the human condition, right? I

32:45

mean, even people who are non-religious or

32:49

non-Christian, that

32:51

self-righteous, it's what we do by

32:53

default. We wanna, Paul says

32:55

our thoughts, the moral law is written on

32:57

our heart, Romans two, and our thoughts

33:00

accuse us and defend

33:02

us. And that's, I think what this is,

33:05

we wanna convince ourselves that we're great people.

33:08

We wanna convince ourselves that, that

33:10

people get what they deserve and we want people to

33:12

get, but when you look at your own heart, if

33:15

you're honest, if you look at your own heart,

33:18

then what are you measuring your

33:21

own heart against? And most people

33:24

measure their own heart against their own heart.

33:26

And we establish ourselves as

33:29

what is good. And then that way, whatever

33:31

we compare to ourselves, we're

33:34

our own standard. I think what

33:36

Jesus and what the gospel does, which is so, this

33:38

is why it's so offensive,

33:40

is that the standard is no longer

33:42

yourself,

33:43

by which you measure how good you are, the standard

33:46

is Christ. The standard is an

33:49

infinitely good God. That's why when

33:51

Paul makes his argument in the book of Romans,

33:53

he gets to Romans three and he quotes,

33:56

I think it's out of Psalms. I mean, there is no

33:58

one good.

33:59

No one.

33:59

who seeks God.

34:01

We are not, we're

34:03

just, we're not good in and

34:05

of ourselves. And if you spend

34:07

your life trying to convince yourself

34:09

that you are, then what's going to happen

34:11

inevitably is

34:13

it's going to create a

34:14

massive amount of anxiety in your heart

34:17

and in your life because you're going to be so

34:19

afraid that man, what

34:21

if they see the real me? Because you're

34:23

going to have to hide that because everybody knows

34:25

in the heart and heart of hearts, the real us

34:28

is we fall short. We fall short of God's glory.

34:31

The goodness of the gospel is that God

34:33

sees you in your rebellion, in

34:35

your wickedness, in your brokenness. And he

34:37

says, I see you there. And Romans

34:39

five says, why you, why you're there, why

34:41

you're a sinner, why you're an enemy, that's

34:44

where I died for you right there. I see you. So

34:46

don't say you're not that bad. You're actually much worse than you think

34:48

you are. And that's where I see you. That's

34:50

where I know you. And that's where I died for you.

34:52

And if you can accept that, which is called

34:55

repentance, like we accept that

34:57

love and then we repent

34:58

and we turn away from, from ourselves

35:01

and our own selfish desires. When we move towards

35:03

God,

35:04

we can experience this thing called intimacy. We

35:06

can experience this thing called life. That's what the

35:08

gospel brings. Yeah, that's good. Let's

35:10

take another break.

35:14

So that, I know this is going to be hard for you to believe,

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but there's an organization out

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is that last year, 95% of their

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is AARP. And

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it doesn't represent the values of American

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37:04

Oh, you're onto it there. You know, look, one of the most

37:06

controversial things I ever said in a class,

37:08

which I had half the audience come up and

37:10

say, well, you're wrong on that one. And

37:14

so I went and studied and came

37:17

back and said, nope. Did

37:19

you say I could be wrong? I could

37:21

be wrong. You study or not? That

37:24

was earlier in my faith, where I

37:26

was so convinced I didn't even have the idea

37:28

that I could possibly be wrong. But after I

37:30

fielded all the rocks, dodged

37:35

all the rocks that was being thrown in my way, I

37:37

said, let me go look this up, make sure this

37:39

statement was accurate. But what

37:41

I read was Galatians 5.19, which

37:44

is a famous list of sins. And

37:47

I was like, I said, these are not

37:49

the problem. These are the symptoms of

37:51

the problem. This is where they didn't like that.

37:55

And so I figured that

37:57

they understood where I was coming from.

37:59

because of the

38:02

James addresses this. Remember when he said

38:04

in chapter one,

38:06

when tempted, no one should say God

38:08

is tempted me, for God cannot be

38:11

tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone.

38:13

Each one is tempted when by his own

38:15

evil desire, he is dragged away

38:17

and enticed. And

38:21

he goes on to say in 3.16, for where you

38:23

have envious selfish ambition, there

38:25

you find disorder in every evil practice.

38:28

The self, you saying,

38:31

putting whatever's number one in your

38:34

life or your own thoughts

38:37

as God instead of God, that's

38:39

the problem. Because you can do that

38:41

in different ways. Because the same people

38:44

who are keeping the law, who are not

38:46

doing a lot of those sins listed in Galatians 5.19,

38:50

they're just as far away from God

38:52

as the guy down in the pig pen. Because

38:55

he's like, well, by my own righteous acts.

38:58

They're just symptoms. Because pride

39:01

is probably the worst sin. But

39:03

we don't think, we're like pride, well,

39:06

what is that? Well, if you think you're somebody

39:09

and you therefore don't need God, even

39:12

though that doesn't seem real

39:15

radical in the sin category, it's

39:18

actually a worse place to be. Because

39:20

you're never gonna be open minded to

39:22

anything

39:23

God has or offers. Because you think

39:25

you got it all figured out. Yeah.

39:29

And I think that's why, Jase, that

39:31

Luke includes this next story

39:34

right after this context we've been talking about.

39:36

Because this is a classic example

39:39

of exactly what we're talking about. Before

39:41

you read it, I just wanna say too, in

39:44

Luke's version of the Sermon

39:46

on the Mount, going

39:47

back to Luke 6 and verse 20, just

39:50

remember, you know,

39:53

it was not fantastic

39:56

news to read this. But

39:58

it goes back to what he said.

39:59

and blessed are you who are poor for

40:02

yours is the kingdom of God. Blessed are you

40:04

who hunger now for you will be satisfied.

40:07

Blessed are you who weep now for you will laugh.

40:09

Blessed are you when men hate you. And

40:12

then he goes to the woes. Woe to you when

40:14

you're rich, you know, 25. Woe

40:16

to you who are well fed. Well, you

40:18

know, these are not sermons we hear

40:21

in modern churches because

40:23

we want to be comfortable. We want to

40:26

think, Oh, we, we made it. Right.

40:28

That's our big, our big say. I've

40:30

had many people to me, you know, come

40:32

up to me and they're like, boy, you made it. I'm

40:35

like, why? Cause I'm famous and I

40:38

got, got some money. I mean

40:40

that that's a joke to me based

40:42

on what I read in scripture. That is not

40:44

the definition of making

40:47

it. And you even see it in our, our

40:49

investment world, you know, all these

40:51

ads that the

40:54

last one I saw, it was like, empower

40:56

yourself. I thought empower yourself. What

40:58

was this thing? It was like,

41:00

you know, invest and you can have money

41:03

and then you, then you're empowered, you're empowered.

41:05

You can, you're controlled. They use

41:07

those words, control your own life.

41:10

Resting, control your future. And I'm like,

41:13

and what retire that

41:17

what, what am I going to do? Yeah. No retirement

41:19

is right before death. Yeah.

41:22

But

41:22

you're like, yeah, you're empowering yourself. And

41:24

it's a guessing game. Cause you don't know. I

41:27

mean, you know what I'm saying? I mean, like a lot

41:29

of people build their whole time up. I'm

41:31

fixing to relax. I'm fixing to enjoy life.

41:34

And then just like we read in the story that

41:37

very night, your life is taken. You can't,

41:39

you can't put it in things on this

41:41

earth. Well, that's my point. He's saying

41:44

repent instead of retire

41:46

or it, you know, explain it in the way life's

41:49

tragedies,

41:50

he's like, no, you need to, you need a new direction.

41:53

You need to change. Well, how have you been thinking? We

41:56

need to change that. That's right.

41:58

So then he gets in your.

41:59

right. There was going to be a series of,

42:02

uh, of stories that, and I love

42:04

it. Cause where we're going just to give you, especially

42:06

our new Spotify friends, to give you

42:09

a glimpse of where we're going, it'll

42:11

be a story about a person. Then it's a parable

42:13

or two to illustrate the point. This is another

42:15

story about a person that's kind of what he's going to do. These

42:18

next few checks. Even in that loop six, he

42:20

did the same thing. He told the blessings and the woes

42:22

and then one chapter over and he's like, no

42:24

good tree bears bad

42:27

fruit. You know, nor does a bad

42:29

tree bear good

42:29

fruit. It's the same thing he's doing with

42:32

the illustration of the fig tree. Your

42:35

tree is the problem. There's no fruit.

42:38

So we need to, we need to do

42:40

something about that. Well, I have, so I have a, I

42:42

have a seed for you.

42:44

New tree.

42:45

Doesn't involve you. I'm going to do this.

42:48

That's right. It's on me. Yeah. This idea that

42:50

you were talking about that, that

42:52

people say you made it and the, this whole idea

42:55

of power empowerment, I was thinking of Sprite

42:57

used to have a campaign, obey your thirst. And it's

42:59

like this as if that if I

43:01

can have this Sprite, I'm

43:04

going to drink this, my thirst. I'm going to obey my

43:06

thirst. And once I consume this

43:08

beverage,

43:09

then I'm going to find

43:11

whatever it is, the fulfillment, the joy I'm looking for.

43:14

And it's only good until the next Sprite.

43:17

Oh yeah. They're using godly principles

43:20

to sell their merchandise. Oh no questions.

43:22

I'm all the time being fascinated

43:24

by the contradictions there. But somebody

43:27

might hear you and they may say, yeah, it's easy for you to say

43:29

cause you've got whatever you have in their

43:31

mind that they think is what, if they had

43:33

that fame and that money that they would be

43:35

happy, but there's this, uh, have

43:38

y'all seen the movie, uh, Wall Street money never

43:40

sleeps. Uh, it's got Shia LaBeouf

43:42

in it. And, um, and one of the,

43:44

he's like, uh, he's an underling that's kind of trying

43:46

to make his way. And I can't remember

43:49

the, the whole, uh, setup of the movie,

43:51

but there's this moment where he's talking to

43:53

the head of this major investment

43:55

bank and he's kind of the young guy that's up

43:58

and coming. And this other guy is

43:59

running the show and

44:01

his character, he

44:03

looks at the main guy and he says, he

44:05

said, what's your number? And this,

44:08

the head of this investment bank, like, what do you mean? He says,

44:10

what's your number? Like everybody's got one. He said,

44:12

what do you mean?

44:13

Like you, there's a number that you have in

44:15

your mind that when you hit that number,

44:17

that

44:18

amount of money,

44:19

then you're like, you're going to walk away and you'll

44:21

be, you'll be satisfied. You'll be, it'll

44:24

be

44:24

what you've always wanted. What's your number?

44:27

And, and I, it's one of the best scenes

44:29

in any movie to illustrate the point that you just

44:32

made, Jayce, because you know what the guy's response was? He

44:35

said, he said

44:36

more.

44:37

He doesn't want to know.

44:40

He said more. And I, you know,

44:42

that, and that's, man, this is true is that the

44:44

problem with more is that once

44:47

you have it, you still don't have

44:49

it. And, and that's the thing. You

44:51

think this thing is out there that the matter

44:53

of fact, I consumed this, then

44:56

I'll be happy.

44:57

Then my heart will be satisfied. And

45:00

that is the, when you mentioned that verse

45:02

about where each one is dragged away and enticed by his

45:04

own evil desires. I mean, that's, that's

45:07

what's coming out of the heart. That's what it's

45:09

a desire for consumption of more

45:12

thinking that we're going to be able to consume

45:14

the things that were made by our own hands. And

45:17

somehow that's going to fulfill us. But Paul's

45:19

pretty explicit when he went in to the

45:21

area opagus and he said, God doesn't live

45:23

in the temples that are built by

45:25

your hands. He's not served by human hands

45:28

and you're not going to be fulfilled

45:30

by consuming the thing is that you make, I

45:32

mean, think about that. You're making these things

45:34

you're like, how can that possibly fulfill

45:36

you? Yeah. My number's $200 based

45:39

on the

45:42

movie. Valdez is coming.

45:44

I talked about it. 472 podcasts ago,

45:47

roughly. So Spotify, folks,

45:49

you gotta go back and do a hundred because

45:52

if you got $200, you

45:56

pretty well got it made for the day. I

46:00

don't know why you're saying that. Inflationally.

46:02

Don't watch the movie and then you'll understand what

46:04

I'm saying. There was an injustice

46:07

that happened and an ex-Marshall

46:09

was like, you know, this

46:12

family of the guy, they killed a guy

46:15

and there was the wrong guy. And

46:17

so they- That's why Valdez was coming, right? That's

46:19

right. And they just said, well, forget

46:21

her because she was a

46:23

Native American. So they were racist. I

46:26

mean, there's a lot of spiritual undertone.

46:28

What's the movie called again? Valdez. Well,

46:30

you got to say it right now. Valdez

46:34

is coming. Valdez is- And

46:37

so he convinced the town-

46:40

Is that Burbank? I'm going to give you the spoiler

46:42

alert because this movie is about 75

46:44

years old. So if

46:46

you haven't seen it by now, it doesn't

46:48

matter that I'm going to tell you. But

46:51

he convinced the town to give this

46:55

Native American woman and her kids $100 if

46:58

the guy who

47:00

ran the town, who had all the money, if he

47:02

would give 100. It was one of those situations.

47:05

You give 100, I'll give 100. Let's take care of this

47:07

injustice that happened. Take care of the widow and

47:09

the orphans. True religion here. Well,

47:12

the guy that had all the money, who has

47:15

tens of thousands of dollars and back then

47:17

and the old west, I mean, he's just loaded.

47:19

He's nice.

47:20

I'm not giving that woman $100. And

47:24

so Valdez kept coming.

47:27

Saying, oh yeah. So then they

47:30

said, we're going to kill

47:32

you if you don't keep asking

47:34

for that $100. And so Valdez

47:38

kept coming. And

47:40

what they didn't know was

47:42

Valdez had a set

47:44

of special skills that

47:47

he had learned while being a Texas Ranger.

47:51

And that's why it's called Valdez. I won't

47:53

tell you how it ends, but it was all

47:55

over $200 for the well-being. I

48:00

had $200 worth of veg in front of me. I

48:04

had $200 with an asterisk, which

48:06

wasn't much, even back then.

48:10

But there was an injustice done, and it was just

48:12

the right thing to do, and it would

48:14

help them get on their feet. And

48:17

so that's why I said, whatever,

48:19

you need enough money to get on your feet. You

48:23

make a good point. Let's take our nice break.

48:30

You

48:30

make a good point that it's never

48:32

enough, even so you could go with a little

48:35

number, a big number, use more. Well, that's

48:37

why I went with $200. It wasn't being sarcastic.

48:40

You don't really need all this. There

48:43

was a real life situation I just saw

48:45

recently to what Zach was describing from a

48:47

movie, but I was actually watching it. California

48:50

was having this debate, I think it was in Oakland,

48:53

over reparation. And these people are getting

48:55

up and they're giving their ideas. These are just people

48:57

that live in Oakland. And everybody's throwing out

48:59

numbers. What would it take that

49:02

we're going to be okay now with everything that's ever happened

49:04

to any African American in the history of America?

49:08

And one guy said, whatever

49:10

the number is, it's not enough. And

49:13

I just thought, that's it. I mean, if that's

49:15

where you were trying to gain your,

49:18

that everything's good. You see this in your everyday

49:20

life. Missy come in there

49:22

and she's like, look, things are breaking. Missy's

49:25

fixing them up. Okay. But she wanted

49:27

to move a door. She said, if I ever told this story

49:30

that I would be in a lot of trouble, but here

49:32

we go.

49:32

But she's, she wanted to

49:34

move the door at my house in, in,

49:37

in Louisiana because it's turned

49:40

into a little cage for

49:42

my animals. Because if they get outside

49:45

that room, they poop all over

49:47

the house. So we have a fence up

49:49

there. Well, people, I have about

49:51

three doors that you can enter my

49:53

house, but everybody comes in there.

49:56

The dogs go crazy. This is the first one

49:58

you see. It's right there on the corner. So

50:00

she come in there and all, she was giving me the

50:02

list of all the things that ne that was

50:04

wrong with the house that we were fixed to fit and

50:06

everything. It was like, yup. Yup. Most

50:08

of these things were a danger to ourselves

50:11

or others. I was like, yup. Need to fix that.

50:13

Fix that. And we got a little baby running around

50:15

there. Fix that. She's all move that

50:18

door. I said, no, not,

50:21

not moving the door. You

50:23

know, she thought, well, it's an inconvenience, you know,

50:26

but I was thinking, let's go take a lot of money to

50:29

tear out a whole wall. So then

50:31

we got into this debate. I thought

50:33

take the same money and

50:36

let's find some orphan kids.

50:38

That's it. We're not moving that door. I

50:40

just thought that crossed the line from

50:42

the $200 in my opinion to move it. No,

50:45

I just couldn't do it. You should have said Valdez

50:48

is coming. And to my

50:50

wife's credit, she thought about didn't

50:53

like it at first, but she said, no, I

50:55

think you're right on that. You know, and to what

50:57

I'm saying, I was trying to apply what you said. Well,

50:59

that's easy for you to say, but

51:01

the only reason I'm coming from that is I

51:04

learned true joy through,

51:06

we've been talking about this movie. You know,

51:08

when,

51:08

when Phil gave his life to Christ

51:11

and mom as well, and our, our family

51:13

started over,

51:15

well, we didn't have any money for years.

51:17

And so fortunately

51:20

for me and you, we found

51:22

true joy and true happiness. And money

51:25

wasn't involved at all. So

51:28

yeah, exactly. So, so later on in

51:30

life, you know, cause I, I

51:32

made not only did I not pursue wealth,

51:35

you know, that was a frustration moment for

51:38

my wife and I, cause every time I had a chance

51:40

to be promoted or do something that would

51:42

make money, I'd always say, well, that's not gonna make you happy

51:45

because I was going back to my child. I was like,

51:48

I'm not pursuing that. And so finally

51:50

I told my wife one time, I was

51:52

like, we're, get, get it through your head.

51:55

We're never going to be rich ever.

51:57

That's not going to happen. which

52:00

turned out to be completely false. However,

52:04

my point was I'm not pursuing

52:06

that. Therefore, I think when this

52:09

show happened and the

52:11

blessings did pour out,

52:13

I think we navigated it better

52:15

than most reality. Go Google

52:18

reality stars and see what happened

52:20

when they became famous and got a lot of money.

52:22

It was like a bomb going on. There's

52:25

a reason the most depressed people on

52:27

the earth. Someone wrote an article about our

52:30

lottery winners. Yeah. Because they thought,

52:32

boy, if I just win the lottery, then they won

52:34

it. And it was just all downhill.

52:37

Everything destroyed. So

52:39

that's what I was basing that off of. I think

52:41

it was the pursuit of people. Zach,

52:44

at that point, I heard people say, well, yeah,

52:46

you've got something. But it's like, no, wait a minute.

52:48

We've been saying the same thing with nothing

52:50

over something. It's the pursuit

52:53

of people over property

52:55

possessions or procedure. Read

52:58

our story. So we can

53:00

get into the weeds. So on

53:02

a Sabbath, verse 10, on a Sabbath,

53:04

Jesus was teaching in one of the synagogues.

53:07

A woman was there who had been crippled

53:09

by spirit for 18 years. She

53:12

was bent over and could not straighten up at all.

53:14

When Jesus saw her, he called her forward

53:16

and said to her, woman, you are set free

53:19

from your infirmity.

53:20

What a moment.

53:22

Then he put his hands on her and immediately

53:24

she straightened up and praised God.

53:27

That could be just a T-shirt right

53:30

there. Indignant because

53:32

Jesus had healed on the Sabbath. The

53:34

synagogue ruler said to the people, there

53:37

are six days for work, so come and be

53:39

healed on those days, not on the Sabbath. The

53:42

Lord answered him, you hypocrites, doesn't

53:45

each of you on the Sabbath untie as ox

53:47

or donkey from the stall and lead it to give it

53:49

water? Then should not this

53:51

woman, a daughter of Abraham whom Satan

53:53

has kept bound for 18 long years,

53:56

be set free on the Sabbath day from

53:58

what? Bounder? When he said

54:00

this, all his opponents were humiliated,

54:04

but the people were delighted with all the

54:06

wonderful things he was doing. So why don't we

54:08

do this in the bonus time,

54:11

why don't we address the thing

54:13

that people don't really address when they read

54:16

this, is this is one of those few moments

54:18

where you're at a worship service and somebody

54:20

does something, and then the people

54:23

in charge come in there and they have a public

54:26

argument, which is horrible,

54:29

because all the people sitting here, they had to be uncomfortable.

54:33

I'm like, they're like, well, I mean, he just healed a

54:35

woman. I'm clapping,

54:37

and then the guy up there, quit clapping for that.

54:39

There's a time and place for that.

54:42

This is not it. And

54:45

it just made me think of how many times, and

54:47

there's only been a few. I experienced

54:50

it, yeah, me too. Where something like

54:52

that has happened at an assembly modern

54:55

day, and I can think of at least two,

54:57

but I thought we could. That'd be good, we'll talk about

54:59

that. We have an overtime segment for our

55:01

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