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Welcome to Unchartered and Unfiltered
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the journey back to you . I
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am Cynthia Jameson , your host , and this is
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where we break free from the noise and dive
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deep into what truly matters you
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. If you're tired of the shoulds , the
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isn't a podcast about easy answers or sugar-coated advice . This is your invitation to
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reclaim your path , embrace the unknown and become the bold , unapologetic
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version of yourself that's been waiting
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to show up . It's time to get unfiltered
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. Let's get started . Hello
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, hello , and welcome back to Unchartered
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and Unfiltered a journey back
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to you . How are you all doing
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today ? It has been
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an incredible morning so far and
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it's only 1130 in the afternoon
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. So this morning
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I just want to share something that a little bit of
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a funny thing , because I think there's a huge
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leadership lesson in it . But this morning
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I went out with the Devon Deer , which
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is our usual run mornings . We go on Monday
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and we go on Wednesday at 615
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. And today on
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the run I paused to take in the sunrise
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, which was glorious , it was golden and
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it was totally worth every second . And
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here's what I didn't realize I
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was apparently beside
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a hidden nest . Now
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, I didn't know , and all of this was unbeknownst to me
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. So as I started running again , I heard
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one of my peer
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runners yell someone's
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chasing you , and I was like . At first I was like
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who is he ? Who's he talking to ? Eventually
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I turned around to see a Canada goose
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, literally head down , wings
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out , charging full tilt at
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me . It was incredible . I
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had never seen anything like this , so you can imagine
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that I started running faster and I
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started searching for cover . Wouldn't you
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Please tell me that you would ? Anyways
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, a few minutes later , after my heart
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started to you know , calm , take a beat
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, take
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a beat I stopped to take a video of this goose . I was trying to get it in
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the video with me so that I could explain it and share it with other people
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, because it was just such an interesting interaction
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. And later I started to think about it , which is
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why I'm talking to you about it , because there
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are some leadership lessons here
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. Let
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me give you the rest of the story before I give you the leadership
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lessons , because the goose , apparently
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, like I , went on about my run . I finished my run , we
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stopped for coffee and , in the line as we were getting
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getting our coffees , I
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found out that the goose actually
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took flight again . And the
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goose took flight and actually
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flew into a cement
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park bench and
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toppled over backwards . And of
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course my running friends were looking at this
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goose , thinking what should we
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do ? And of course nobody wanted to touch it . You
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know , I wouldn't have done anything different . Anyways
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, this interaction
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the more I was thinking about it , the more I thought how
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this was so interesting and
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what are the lessons that it can teach us
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about leadership . And so the first
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one is we all have blind spots
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. Firstly , I didn't see the nest , the
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goose didn't see the bench . So
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we act fast when we feel
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threatened , but also , without clarity
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, we can cause more chaos than
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we can cause calm . The second
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thing that I thought about is belonging
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Belonging matters . So
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the goose wanted to be part of the Devon
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Deer gang and
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leaders want to
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be a part of something too . So leaders
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who feel excluded or
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who also sense their teams
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are threatened can act out of protection
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rather than perspective , which really ties into
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the episode I want to get into here today . The
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third piece is brilliance can distract
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us . So the morning sun was absolutely
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gorgeous , stunning . I'm so glad that I stopped
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to take a picture of it . The picture it doesn't even
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come anywhere near what I actually
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experienced , and
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it also blinded the goose . So leaders can get dazzled by big ideas , new opportunities or personal
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ambitions , which , again , is going to wrap into today's episode . So
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the key that I have here for you is to
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stay grounded as
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you rise . So , as
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you start your week , I
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invite you to start it with presence , with
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perspective and with enough humility
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to ask what is the lesson
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in this for me ? So
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, regardless of what you're chasing today
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, or whatever you're chasing this week , think
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about how you might respond differently
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, with more awareness than
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I had this morning . So
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I thought you might find that useful . I wanted
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to share that with you . It actually
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is really , really applicable to today's
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episode . Because let me ask
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you something have you ever told
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yourself this year I
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am going to focus on my health , I'm
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going to slow down , I'm going to not get caught
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up in work drama and then
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, out of nowhere , you find yourself spiraling
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because of something or someone
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that you can't stop thinking
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about and I'm just going to like
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, hand on heart , yeah , same same here . So
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in this episode today , I want to take
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you inside a coaching conversation
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with one of my clients that I just finished
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having this conversation with
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. We have been working together for about six months
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, and when I tell you that
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this human has been
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through a season , I really
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mean it . His
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story might just help you shift
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your own . So let's get into it . When
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my client and I first started working together , he
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had just been diagnosed with cancer . There
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were no warning signs , there were no major risk factors
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, just boom , there
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it was , and the way that he described it to
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me was , of course , it
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felt unwarranted . I think it's a very
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normal human thought to think that , and on top
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of that , his wife had recently experienced
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some serious health issues
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as well . His kids were going through college
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admissions . He had lost both of
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his parents within a short window of time . There was
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a lot . So when I say that his
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plate was full , I mean
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we would probably all be able to agree
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that it was overflowing . And
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yet my client made a promise
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to himself this year healing
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comes first , not over , overworking
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, not overstressing , just healing . Healing
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the body , the mind and the spirit . Now
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I want to fast forward to the session that we had , because
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he came into the session looking drained , and
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not because of treatment that's
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all going well , and not because
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of his home life , because that's all going well
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but but because of work and
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more specifically because
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of a co-worker , a peer , someone
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that used to be a friend . Now they
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are both up for the same promotion in
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the same group and over
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the past few months the
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co-worker has started creeping into
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my client's projects . He steps
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into meetings uninvited , he takes initiative
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on things that belong to my client and my client's
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team . So my client started to
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feel watched , questioned
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, undermined . And
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here's the worst part . My
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client said I can't stop thinking
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about him . I can't
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stop thinking about him and I feel
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ashamed of myself is
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what he told me . I shouldn't care
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, but it's like I'm stuck in this loop
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. I'm constantly comparing and
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I'm wondering what he's doing and
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I'm wondering what people think of him
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versus what they might think of me
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. And
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silence is golden in coaching . So
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he paused and
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then he said maybe I'm
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jealous , but and
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there's a thought coming in here right now , because I used
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to watch Dr Phil eons and eons ago
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. I don't even know if that's still a thing , but
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Dr Phil used to say whenever
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we say a sentence , sentence and
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then we insert the word but we're
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about to tell you what we really think . So
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he said maybe I'm jealous , but
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I can't help but
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think he's better than me
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. Now
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, if you've ever had a version
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of that thought , you're
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not alone . So I asked
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my client what are you making
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this mean about you
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? And he said that
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I'm not enough , that I'm lacking
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in some way . Now
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, this is what we uncovered . He
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thought he's better than me . The
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feeling that it created within
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him was an inferior feeling
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. And then the action that he took
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was to overcompensate , to
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over research , to over explain
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, to try and prove his worth
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, to take actions to prove a point
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. The result to
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prove a point . The result Exhaustion , distraction and shame . And then he would refocus , he would
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try to remind himself of what matters , but the pattern
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would keep repeating . Because
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underneath of it all was
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this belief , a
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deeply conditioned story
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that I'm not enough , and I see
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this come up so often . I
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don't actually think there has been a
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human that I have coached
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that hasn't had
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that thought or some
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variation of that
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thought , and I think that's
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really important , because I know we hear
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it a lot , we talk about a lot , we talk about a lot , but I don't
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think we really allow ourselves to
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understand or to reflect or look within
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and ask ourselves what
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is the cost of my thinking that
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, or what is the cost of me
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avoiding the fact
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that I'm thinking that ? But I don't even want
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to admit to myself that I'm
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thinking that , because then we're
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in the surface and
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we're not digging
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in the subconscious , we're
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not bringing out what's in the subconscious basement
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, we're not taking the power that that has on
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us when we're not willing to go there . We're
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not taking that power back and
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we're not deciding to go there . We're not taking that power back and we're not deciding for
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ourselves what
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we are like , what even is
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enough . How would we even know ? And it's going to be different
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for all of us . And so I
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asked him a new question , which
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was what if this
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isn't about you ? And
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I watched something incredible shift
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. He literally sat back in his
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chair , as if like releasing
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this big weight on
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his shoulders , so I could observe
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him , his energy , everything
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changed . And then he said when
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I take myself out of the center
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, when I take myself out of the center , I zoom
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out , I remember
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what the business needs , I
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feel more strategic , I share what I'm doing with him
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and I let him go do it and
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suddenly I'm free . That's when the real coaching happened , because this wasn't about a colleague
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, this was about an old dynamic . It was about an abusive relationship with self
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, and what I mean by that specifically is
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when we keep telling ourselves these stories
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that don't serve us , that create
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fear , that create lack , that create inferiority
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within us . That is us in a relationship
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with us , and it's abusive and
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it's one that we would I mean , if we ever saw someone
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in that relationship , we would say that is toxic , get
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out . And yet we do it to ourselves
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. And so the version of him
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that says you're falling
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behind , you're not doing enough , you're
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going to be left out there
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was a version of him , and that voice
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is loud , but it's not
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true . He
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told me I believe in
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the soul , I believe there's
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a higher purpose in all of this , and
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even though I'm still afraid
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, even though I know that I will still
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expect and anticipate fear , I
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trust that this season is teaching
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me something . He
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anchored into that he started to practice
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what it would be like to zoom out
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, to observe the story , to
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choose a new focus and
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to act from wholeness , not
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from fear . So
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what's the moral of the story ? When
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comparison creeps in , when you
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find yourself caught up in loops of
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not enoughness , ask yourself
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what am I making this mean
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about me ? And then
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follow it with what if it's
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not about me at all ? Because
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your brain might be
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wired for threat , but
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your soul is wired for truth
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. And the truth is you
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don't need to prove your worth , you
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just need to remember it
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. You need to remember
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your worth . So
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with that , thank you so much for listening . If
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this episode resonated , share
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it with a friend or a colleague who might be feeling
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the weight of comparison right now for themselves
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. And if you're navigating something
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big and wondering what coaching could do for you , you
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know where to find me . So until next time
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, breathe deep , zoom out and remember
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it's not about you and
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that's the best news . Yet
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take care , I'll see you back here next
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week , same time , same place . Have a good
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one . I
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hope that you're walking away feeling more
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aligned with your true self , more
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confident in the choices ahead and
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ready to leave the safe path
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behind knowing you've got everything
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you need within . Remember the
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journey to you isn't about finding
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one perfect direction . It's about trusting
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yourself enough to explore all of it
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. If you're ready to dive deeper
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, join me for the next episode , and don't
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forget to subscribe so that you never
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miss the next step on your path . I
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invite you to join my mailing list at wwwcynthiajamesoncoachca
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, where we'll deepen our relationship
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charting your course to authenticity . Until
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next time , stay unfiltered , stay
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true and , most importantly , stay
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you .
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