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Thanks for listening to the Under the

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is Under the Hood. Welcome to the

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Under the Hood Show. We are glad

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to have you with us. Russ Evans

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is here to answer your automotive questions.

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Thanks for joining us under the hood.

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Shannon Nordstrom is here to do the

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same. Welcome hoodies. Thanks for tuning in

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Tune up. I'm Chris Carter here to

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4150, 866, 594, 4150. What

1:00

has caught your attention in

1:03

the automotive world? Well, there's

1:05

been a lot of talk

1:08

within our industry, our

1:10

parts suppliers and all

1:12

that, about prices as they

1:14

might change with recent changes

1:17

out there. The Sima

1:19

show has gotten into

1:21

talking about some changes,

1:24

and something I found

1:26

interesting. that made perfect

1:28

sense to me. When we

1:30

started, the United States,

1:32

we started making

1:34

auto parts outside of the

1:37

United States borders in

1:39

the late 80s, early 90s,

1:41

things like that. What was

1:43

the main reason for that?

1:45

What would be the first

1:47

thing that comes to your mind?

1:50

What money someone got a bunch

1:52

of money because it was cheaper

1:54

to buy to make those parts

1:56

over there and then sell them

1:58

here right so the there's more

2:00

profit in it. As they've

2:03

tracked these things over the years,

2:05

same thing that happens when you

2:07

got a guy cut in your lawn and

2:09

he's done it for 10 years and

2:11

it's X amount of dollars a

2:14

week, some new guy comes along and

2:16

says, or like your new internet carrier,

2:18

hey we'll do that for 25% less.

2:20

As time goes by, it gets a

2:23

little more and a little more and

2:25

a little more and before you

2:27

know it, you're paying more. than

2:29

what you would have paid your

2:31

original lawn mowing guy. So

2:34

they've tracked this and the

2:36

price of auto parts that used

2:38

to be cheaper overseas. Now

2:40

is more. Look at Shannon, for

2:42

instance, a shipping container. If

2:44

it was cheaper, it was great.

2:47

Until that shipping container went

2:49

up tenfold to get it

2:51

here. They came back down,

2:53

but they're not. But they're

2:56

still crazy money. Yeah. When

2:58

Sima was looking at it, and there's

3:00

other people looking at it, they're like,

3:02

hey, if we build them in the

3:04

United States now, no, it's not more

3:07

expensive. It's like the same price. So

3:09

we're going to see how it shakes out

3:11

with the cost of things. Because oil

3:13

filters are typically, we get a lot of

3:15

them made in Mexico and Canada, not

3:17

a lot of China on oil filters,

3:19

but we got a lot of those

3:21

out break rotors and stuff. Tons of

3:24

those are coming China metal, metal, things

3:26

like that. So overall, we're saying don't

3:28

worry yet too much about what the price

3:30

of auto parts could be. We could

3:32

just get some better quality steel made

3:34

in the United States at the same

3:36

amount of money unless people here decide

3:38

that they want to raise those prices

3:40

just to do it. So I have

3:42

a lot of customers, this has been

3:44

on their minds for a couple weeks

3:46

now, how much is my price is

3:48

going to go up? Well, it doesn't

3:51

look like currently it's going to go

3:53

up a lot, but I've also seen...

3:55

getting feedback from friends of mine in

3:57

other states. People are already raising

3:59

their prices. That's what I

4:01

was just going to say. I'm

4:03

already getting notices from places saying

4:05

our rates are up because of

4:07

this. Yeah. That haven't even happened

4:09

yet. Right. I don't think they're

4:12

going to go back down probably

4:14

if it if we get past

4:16

it a month. It's like gas

4:18

speculation. It's like oh we they

4:20

might go up so let's raise

4:22

it now. Right. Because we don't

4:24

want to lose anything when it

4:27

comes. Let's do it now while

4:29

it's top of mind. Yeah. Yeah.

4:31

For double free? Yeah. Yeah. We're

4:33

going to double the price. 100%

4:35

increase. Double free. That's ridiculous. 25%?

4:37

Let's go with 25. That just

4:40

be for free. For free. It's

4:42

just one extra. Yeah. For free.

4:44

For free. For free. For free.

4:46

Free. Free. Free. Free. Free. Free.

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Free. 866 594 4.50 that's the

4:50

number to reach us here at

4:52

the end of the hood show.

4:54

I've got a question here from

4:57

Chris who sent a question in

4:59

the most unique way that I've

5:01

had a question asked yet. Okay.

5:03

Okay. Are you curious about that at

5:05

least? Yes. All right this is Chris

5:07

and Chris is from cars and he's

5:10

a listener of ours. We know up

5:12

in Minnesota and he buys parts

5:14

from Nordstrom as a

5:16

regular customer. Okay. So when he

5:18

paid his statement, he sent a paid

5:20

bill with a question on it. Okay.

5:23

I like that. It was typed in,

5:25

along with comments about the show, that

5:27

came with a statement. Now I don't

5:29

get all these statements. I don't, we

5:32

have like hundreds of hundreds of

5:34

statements that go out. So I don't

5:36

look at all the statements. But our, Alyssa

5:38

in the office said she goes, I think

5:41

you might want to see this one. And

5:43

so. It says, hello, first off and

5:45

thank you for the goodie box, because

5:47

he had won a hoodie, got a

5:50

hoodie. My dad stopped. Here's the

5:52

question. He took my one jeep to his

5:54

shop. In cleaning out my jeep, I

5:56

found the picture of my bailout car.

5:59

Maybe you'd have... idea what's going on

6:01

with it. It's a 2,000 grand Cherokee with

6:03

a four leader. So that'd be the inline

6:05

6 cylinder. The oil pressure was all over

6:08

the place and then nothing one time when

6:10

I was driving to church. Scared

6:12

me. Scareds in capital letters. Trying

6:14

to read it with dramatic here.

6:16

Scared me. So I pulled it out, pulled

6:18

it to home shop, put a mechanical gauge

6:20

on it, then the oil pressure came back.

6:22

I was driving it for a week

6:25

with mechanical gauge duct tape to the

6:27

windshield. drop with no noise, no lifter

6:29

noise, nothing. So I dropped the pan

6:32

and put a new high volume oil

6:34

pump in it and had the same

6:36

result. Do you have any suggestions?

6:38

My dad picked it up here

6:40

in Marshall and drove it to St.

6:42

Leo to his shop. The dash gauge showed

6:45

45 pounds the whole trip there, I

6:47

guess. So what do you think? A

6:49

mechanical gauge dropped to zero.

6:51

He replaced the pump and it

6:53

still dropped to zero? Yeah, he says,

6:56

yep. If the pump's turned, it's got to

6:58

have oil pressure. It sounds like it may

7:00

have a blockage in that system

7:02

somewhere that's not allowing the pressure to

7:04

go through because it should be noisy

7:07

if it really did lose oil pressure.

7:09

Yeah, you'd get, especially on inline 6,

7:11

you would get clatter like crazy if

7:13

the top end wasn't getting proper

7:15

oil. Yeah. And you got a new oil pump? That's

7:18

a weird one. So I think what I

7:20

would do if you haven't done it already

7:22

is get some Justice Brothers Brothers'

7:24

oil system cleaner. Is there a port

7:27

on there that you could pressurize with

7:29

some cleaner from down by the oil

7:31

filter on there to pull through? There's

7:33

oil ports on there. You could you could

7:35

push stuff through and then change your oil

7:37

because you got to get it out

7:39

of there. If you're running cleaner through,

7:41

you're going to have to also

7:43

have to crank it without the engine

7:46

running to get oil pressurize running through

7:48

to wash out all the stuff from

7:50

the system. So you've got fresh oil

7:52

around those bearings before you fired.

7:54

Babbitt in the oil or whatever it

7:56

might happen to be. Maybe there's just

7:58

a single chunk of something like you

8:01

said that's just back and forth

8:03

getting caught in the port near

8:05

the oil pressure gauge. Like in

8:07

my sink, my utility sink? You

8:09

have something like that going on?

8:11

Yeah. I got pieces of sponge

8:13

that I have occasionally have to

8:15

fish out of there. Very quiet.

8:17

I'm hunting habits. What's Babbitt? What's

8:19

like bearing... Westcoley Babbitt. Is that

8:22

the right term? Isn't that like

8:24

off of the bearings? You get

8:26

Babbitt. Babbitt is what I have

8:28

in my Model T, so you're

8:30

going back a long way. It's

8:32

poured, it's poured in. I just,

8:34

the original, the original meaning of

8:36

it, yeah, it was a poured

8:38

bearing. But isn't there Babbitt on

8:40

Crank Chef bearings? There is... Am

8:43

I like... Am I like... Am

8:45

I getting that old that I...

8:47

That's all I can remember is

8:49

the oldest thing? The oldest terms

8:51

have been adopted. You know, what

8:53

an original term was and what

8:55

it meant has changed over the

8:57

years. So we still call it

8:59

this. I think Jerry Ross and

9:02

Jane Hill Machine was at Dakota

9:04

Auto Parts was the first person

9:06

that told me about Babbitt on

9:08

a bearing. and I stuck it

9:10

stuck in there for 30 years

9:12

and popped up today. Technically it

9:14

would be the covering, the coating

9:16

that you see that is on

9:18

the bearing where it was 100%

9:20

poured before. Now it's a metal

9:23

bearing with a coating on it.

9:25

Interesting. I think you're okay. I

9:27

feel fine. I got you. 866-594-4150.

9:29

That's the number to reach us

9:31

here at the end of the

9:33

Hood Show. Let's talk to Vaughn

9:35

and Louisiana. Vaughn, you're on the

9:37

end of the Hood Show. What

9:39

can we do for you? Hey,

9:41

how you doing? Fantastic. I've got

9:44

a 2006 Chevy Avolances, 350. It's

9:46

been a great truck. It's got

9:48

almost 200,000 miles on it, but

9:50

it runs fine. And about five

9:52

months ago. It started draining

9:54

the battery when it was just

9:56

sitting. And we kind of go

9:58

back and forth and I don't

10:00

use it all the time, but

10:02

anything over four days and it

10:04

would drain the battery dead. So

10:06

replace the first battery, which wasn't

10:08

that old, but I thought, well,

10:10

it was bad. The first brand

10:12

new battery, it did the same

10:14

thing and it discharged enough that

10:16

I had to get another battery.

10:18

So I'm like my third battery

10:20

and with nothing plugged into the

10:22

cigarette lighter, the ignition off, if

10:25

it's four or five days, I

10:27

come back in the battery set.

10:29

And that's without using the vehicle.

10:32

Correct. If I use it, you

10:34

know, every day, every other day,

10:36

it's okay, but it, you know,

10:38

you use it, it charges it

10:40

back up, and, but if it

10:42

sits for more than about four

10:44

days, something discharges the battery. And

10:47

have you went out and, have

10:49

you snuck around it at night

10:51

to see if anything is a

10:53

glow? This is not going to

10:55

go away. Our house, we're not

10:57

recently, no. Well, I mean, that's,

10:59

we do tell people that is

11:02

an obvious thing you can do

11:04

is when it's without your keyfob.

11:06

Don't put that in your pocket.

11:08

Well, 06, he's got a, he's

11:10

got just a clicky system, don't

11:12

get doors, but that it's going

11:14

to try to communicate with the

11:17

vehicle, but just. At night, just

11:19

walk out there and walk around

11:21

it and see if you see

11:23

anything, poke your head, don't open

11:25

the door, just look through the

11:27

windows, see if there's anything aglow,

11:29

look at the radio, look at

11:32

the dashboard, that's the low-hanging fruit.

11:34

If the vehicle has a multi-dis

11:36

CD changer in it, common problem.

11:38

Unplug it. Just pull the radio

11:40

out and unplug it, and unplug

11:42

it, and see if you have

11:44

your problem yet, because they can

11:47

start cycling when they have when

11:49

they're jammed. No, it doesn't have

11:51

a changer. Okay. Does it have

11:53

just a single C.D. player? I

11:55

still wouldn't rule it out as

11:57

a place to try an easy

11:59

thing to do. Or even pull

12:02

the radio and that, disconnect, just

12:04

disconnect both of them and see

12:06

if you still have a drain.

12:08

That's the doing it at home

12:10

without tools trick. That's the low-hanging

12:12

fruit. The tools trick is to

12:14

get yourself out of multimedia with

12:17

an amp meter in it, not

12:19

voltage. Ignore that completely. Ignore that

12:21

completely. And then latch all those doors. Open

12:23

them all up, latch all the doors so there's

12:25

no drain there and put that amp meter in

12:28

line. 20 minutes to go to sleep and

12:30

start pulling fuses one at a time

12:32

until the drain goes away and hope

12:34

that it has a drain when you hook

12:36

it up. Yeah, that's a thing. He's going

12:38

to hook it up and there's going to

12:40

be nothing. Right. Except every few days. 19

12:43

out of 20 that come into our shop

12:45

that they say there's a drain, when I

12:47

test it, there is no drain. And then it

12:49

may sit out there for a week. And

12:51

I go and start it up and

12:54

they say, well, we'll come next week

12:56

and get it. I go out there

12:58

and start it up. They get home,

13:00

turn it off, and 20 minutes later,

13:03

what's dead again? I'm going to bring

13:05

it back. I'm like, don't bring

13:07

it back. It's not there. So

13:09

with the electronic systems, they

13:12

can just activate and cause

13:14

it to drink when it's random.

13:16

But you may have a real

13:18

drink that's there all the time. Yeah.

13:20

Where am I putting the amp meter

13:22

too? You are going in line with

13:24

either the positive cable or the negative

13:26

cable. It doesn't care because the current's

13:28

going to flow whenever there's a drain.

13:30

So the way you have to do

13:32

it though, you got to be careful with

13:35

it because you could have a big drain.

13:37

We start with the amp meter on high

13:39

on the 10 amps and we're hoping that

13:41

it's not more than 10 amps or you're

13:43

going to blow the fuse in your meter.

13:45

Where are we putting it? Where are we

13:47

in line either on the positive or negative?

13:49

I don't know what that means. You take

13:51

the cable off and you put the meter

13:54

in line with your cable. Either one of

13:56

them. But you need a jumper wire. So

13:58

Chris, here's what you do. You connect. a

14:00

usually will go on the ground

14:02

side because it's easier for us

14:04

and we will connect one of

14:06

our ends little alligator clips

14:08

to the battery negative terminal

14:11

and then we'll clip one to a

14:13

good ground on the vehicle so I

14:15

don't have to worry about connecting the

14:18

cable and then I pull that cable

14:20

off and I let the vehicle go

14:22

to sleep with the cable removed

14:24

now I'm putting my amp meter in

14:26

line in line in between And it's

14:28

not going to do anything because I

14:30

still have the jumper connected, but once

14:32

that car has been to sleep for,

14:34

let's say, 20, 30 minutes, then I'm going

14:36

to remove that cable, a little jumper

14:39

I have in there, so that everything's flowing

14:41

through my meter. If I were to just

14:43

remove the cable and let it go to

14:45

sleep, and then take my amp meter and

14:47

hook it up directly in between, everything's going

14:49

to be awake in the car, and I'm

14:51

going to burn out the fuse in my meter

14:53

in my meter right away. With that

14:55

low current running through with your little jumper

14:58

and then remove it You'll have to you

15:00

watch a YouTube video and see how it's

15:02

done But that's that's the simple of it

15:04

to you get down to where you can

15:06

actually measure the problem. It's your x-ray You

15:09

measure the problem and then you find out

15:11

where you're losing Current by removing systems

15:13

one at a time and remember

15:15

when you disable a system You're

15:17

gonna have to remember where that fuse

15:19

went back in and leave it disabled

15:21

Because if nothing, if there's

15:24

no current drop, when you

15:26

plug it back in, everything's

15:28

going to wake up again.

15:30

Okay. And that could burn

15:32

out the meter, fuse again.

15:34

So we pull that fuse

15:36

and say, okay, 10 amp in

15:38

Fuse Spot 25, write it down,

15:40

set it aside. And write it

15:42

down. And write it down.

15:44

Fuse box. Fuse box. Yeah,

15:47

and there's two. Yeah, there's

15:49

one of the dash too. On the

15:51

end of the dash on the driver's side,

15:53

but you know most of the time we

15:55

find the problem under the hood

15:57

show.com. I was just gonna say that

16:00

I did, and Russ says it

16:02

doesn't work very well, but I

16:04

did buy a meter with an

16:06

inductive clamp on it. And when

16:09

I was working on that camera,

16:11

it would measure it, I could

16:13

see it, but I couldn't, I

16:15

could see the problem. I could

16:17

see the current drain. And those

16:19

inductive probes, in our experience, work

16:21

very well, but when you get

16:24

into a very small amount like

16:26

that's what you'd said. It has

16:28

always worked better for us connecting.

16:30

That's the tried and true method,

16:32

what you said. But when you,

16:34

like when they come to your

16:36

house and they're putting the clamp

16:39

over the meter to check amps

16:41

and stuff. That's working. We're talking

16:43

about little amps. We're 30 amps

16:45

or more. You can see what's

16:47

flowing there. I'm not, I use

16:49

that all the time and I

16:51

don't, I don't have a problem

16:54

with that, but when I'm trying

16:56

to measure 200 mill amps. to

16:58

one amt draw I like to

17:00

what we need is one of

17:02

those things like the blue the

17:04

blue thing that the phone guys

17:06

used to have where they could

17:09

just go near the wire and

17:11

hear the conversation you could hear

17:13

the whole conversation I've got one

17:15

right behind the wall perfect we

17:17

use it for studio let's do

17:19

it in the car and so

17:21

it'll just be like CD players

17:24

jammed won't it if you touch

17:26

it it'll just tell you where

17:28

the drive I think that's how

17:30

it works fun good luck thanks

17:32

very much for the call 866,

17:34

594, 4.50. Let's talk to Harold

17:36

in Kansas. Harold, you're on the

17:39

end of the hood show. What

17:41

can we do for you? Well,

17:43

I've got a 2010 Ford F-150

17:45

pickup truck, and it's only got

17:47

around 99,000 miles on it's really

17:49

good shape, but all of a

17:51

sudden, on the dash, it keeps

17:54

popping up back. Back two doors

17:56

are a jar. They're not closed

17:58

basically and so I've got out

18:00

several times open them up and

18:02

shut them I've I've even sprayed

18:04

some lubricant on the hinges, you

18:06

know, the door locks to make

18:09

sure that some there isn't wrong

18:11

and just wonder to find out

18:13

what kind of fix would take

18:15

care of that. And it's... Is

18:17

it a sensor or what? Is

18:19

it both back doors at the

18:21

same time? They

18:26

are right now, but at one

18:28

time it's a right side or

18:30

left side. It would pop back

18:32

and forth. So it was, it

18:35

wasn't just instantly that both doors

18:37

were given the signal, you had

18:39

fluctuation between the two. Right. Because

18:41

if they both would have came

18:43

right at the same time, I

18:45

would be looking for some wiring

18:47

issue back there. But since they

18:49

fluctuated when they came on and

18:51

off, I start thinking a little

18:53

more about the... Censors inside the

18:55

totally integrated latch more so than

18:57

than the wiring but I'll let

18:59

mr. Evans with the look he's

19:01

giving me I don't know if

19:03

I should continue. I kind of

19:06

feel like I should walk out

19:08

of the room Wesley Webb. It's

19:10

been known on the wires We

19:12

have seen so many wiring problems

19:14

on those back doors and they

19:16

stock that wiring a little short

19:18

foot long I haven't looked it

19:20

up yet. I'm surprised. Every time

19:22

I go to our partner at

19:24

Dorman Products, I'm like, whoa, you

19:26

sell that? Well, I should look.

19:28

So every time I know I

19:30

need something and it's a very

19:32

common part you can buy it

19:34

forward because it's on their shelf

19:36

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19:39

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19:41

make it today, it's in R&D

19:43

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19:45

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19:47

Try Dorman first. because they'll fix.

19:49

They're gonna they'll fix the problem

19:51

that the OEM had whereas the

19:53

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19:55

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19:57

the harness that goes in through

19:59

that door, the wires will start

20:01

to break from age moving back

20:03

there, so that's why they sell

20:05

the whole thing. And then once

20:07

it breaks, it kicks the light

20:10

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20:12

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20:14

doors. Doesn't matter. I get so

20:16

many people that don't have kids,

20:18

there's nobody riding in the back

20:20

and they're still doing it. Yeah,

20:22

it's kind of great. I think

20:24

because with a... Is it the

20:26

opposite? doesn't get in the back

20:28

very often but at some point

20:30

somebody opens that door to car

20:32

wash or whatever to clean it

20:34

to put something in the back

20:36

seat and if it's brittle and

20:38

old like a frozen garden hose

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and then you move it and

20:43

it's done so I think it's

20:45

an age thing. Harold thanks very

20:47

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25:12

of the hood show what can

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we do for you? Hi, I've

25:16

got a 2019 Chevy Traverse and

25:18

I keep having the second engine

25:20

like come on and it's always

25:22

this p049 evaporative admission warning or

25:24

whatever that comes on and they

25:26

keep clearing it off and I'm

25:28

just I was looking on it

25:30

online too and seeing that that's

25:33

kind of a problem for this

25:35

vehicle I don't know if you

25:37

guys have any experience with that

25:39

it's best just to go and

25:41

try to replace that or what

25:43

you might know about it It

25:45

is. We've had a lot of

25:47

experience with these and the purge

25:49

control solenoid. This vehicle is more

25:51

known for that than the vent

25:53

solenoid which is located under the

25:55

vehicle and you could do that

25:57

purge solenoid yourself. If you're handy

25:59

with a 10mm wrench you could

26:02

do it just you could pull

26:04

that up on YouTube and watch

26:06

it. You take the oil cap

26:08

off the engine where you fill

26:10

it, you pull the cover off

26:12

the plastic cover. and put the

26:14

cap back on and then you'll

26:16

see it right there staring at

26:18

you. It's right almost next to

26:20

the oil filler and it's a

26:22

little plastic, solenoid, a little bigger

26:24

than a golf ball. It's got

26:26

one hose clip to it that

26:29

you just push down the button

26:31

and unhook, one wire that you

26:33

pull the little clip and unplug

26:35

it and then you ten millimeter

26:37

bolt holds it in, you unscrew

26:39

it, take it off, throw it

26:41

in, throw it in, put the

26:43

garbage, put the new one on,

26:45

tighten up, plug it, take your

26:47

oil cap back off put the

26:49

blast of cover back on oil

26:51

cap back on and way you

26:53

go it's it's that's literally that

26:55

simple and it's not overly expensive

26:58

parts so if you did that

27:00

it didn't fix the problem you're

27:02

spending a lot less money than

27:04

having a diagnostic probably 40 bucks

27:06

I just lost so many people

27:08

going okay you do this now

27:10

what yeah I was just gonna

27:12

say it's simple then you give

27:14

you go to the podcast go

27:16

to the podcast and back it

27:18

up I guess or just watch

27:20

a YouTube video video on it

27:22

but I'm saying It's something you

27:25

can do from the top in

27:27

your driveway in 10 minutes that

27:29

you don't have to crawl under

27:31

the car or have a jack

27:33

or a hoist or anything to

27:35

do because it's the purge solenoid.

27:37

If it was the vent solenoid,

27:39

whole other story. Do you drive

27:41

on a lot of gravel roads?

27:43

No, I mean, I have one

27:45

mile of gravel to drive. That

27:47

would affect the vent. That's enough

27:49

to affect the vent, but is

27:51

that enough? That's enough to affect

27:54

the vent because that thing's going

27:56

to be venting and testing as

27:58

you're driving, but that's not going

28:00

to affect the purge. That's going

28:02

to affect the vent in the

28:04

tank underneath. So that's coming next.

28:06

Once you get this fixed, start

28:08

with the easy one. Oh, 442

28:10

and things in the balance. Start

28:12

with the easy one. And also,

28:14

just as a reminder to people

28:16

that are out there, we talk

28:18

about this often, but when you're

28:21

filling your fuel tank, first click,

28:23

you're done. And not while it's

28:25

running, you're filling your fuel tank,

28:27

just click, you're done. And not

28:29

while it's running, because if a

28:31

car is running, it's going to

28:33

be venting. Julie, you drive a

28:35

mile. You drive a mile on

28:37

gravel every day? Right. Okay. So

28:39

that's two miles every day? Two

28:41

miles? One mile there, one mile

28:43

back? So 600 miles on gravel

28:45

a year on average. I was

28:47

just going to say, Julie, thanks

28:50

very much for the call. Good

28:52

luck. And that sounds, I'm hopeful

28:54

for Julie. But that is a

28:56

great example right there of just

28:58

understanding what people. are saying, do

29:00

you drive on gravel much? No,

29:02

only two miles a day. Which

29:04

to much of the country and

29:06

world is a lot? Yeah, 600

29:08

miles. So why are my tires

29:10

worn out? Because you drive 600

29:12

miles of gravel a year and

29:14

they're worn out at two years.

29:17

So you've driven 1,200 miles on

29:19

sharp rocks cutting your tires up.

29:21

Like ask me, Shannon, ask me

29:23

if I drive on gravel very

29:25

often? Never. There you go. Less

29:27

than a mile a year probably.

29:29

That's not true. But I mean,

29:31

just saw something down a country

29:33

road and you wanted to know

29:35

what it was. So you drove

29:37

down it. I wanted to go

29:39

check it out and see if

29:41

I could... You had to go

29:43

to the bathroom? Yeah. Yeah. I

29:46

was like, hey, we're just going

29:48

to pull off here for a

29:50

little while. Watch your phone. There's

29:52

deer running in the meadow. You

29:54

see them? 866-594-4150. Let's go to

29:56

Idaho and talk to Blaine. You're

29:58

on the Under the Hood Show

30:00

Blaine. What can we do for

30:02

you? a 2019 F-150 with 91,000

30:04

miles and I had to leave

30:06

it at a dealership when I

30:08

was out of town and drive

30:10

a rental car home because the

30:13

camfasers it was rattling it sounded

30:15

really bad that's no fun it's

30:17

got a three-point it's got the

30:19

six-cylinder eco boost in it right

30:21

oh yes yeah and it still

30:23

has had plenty of power when

30:25

it was making all that noise

30:27

the so You're lucky, sort of.

30:29

It's going to be expensive. It's

30:31

quite expensive to do this. We

30:33

do a lot of them in

30:35

our shop. But the fact that

30:37

we're able to do them and

30:39

keep your motor going, that's a

30:42

plus. Compared to the previous generation

30:44

of V8s where you put an

30:46

engine in it. You did not

30:48

do that. Because if you fixed

30:50

them, a lot of the time

30:52

for us, when they would get

30:54

fixed at another place wherever it

30:56

was, They're at our place six

30:58

months to a year later saying

31:00

it's doing it again. I'm like,

31:02

because you need an engine, you

31:04

don't need phasers. But with these,

31:06

they're fixed, they're done, they're good.

31:09

As long as the oil is

31:11

still being changed, three months, 3,000

31:13

miles. If you go back to

31:15

that, I have seen some people

31:17

that were changing them at 6,7,000

31:19

miles, and they made it another

31:21

50, 60,000, and they're rattling again.

31:23

Like, well, what happened? You're not

31:25

changing the oil? Well, I shouldn't

31:27

have to. The manufacturer says I

31:29

change it when the light comes

31:31

on. No, don't do that. I

31:33

see so many technicians on the

31:35

technician site forums that are saying,

31:38

don't do that. These people are

31:40

working at the dealership, saying no,

31:42

don't do that. How do we

31:44

know if our vehicle is one

31:46

of those? You listen to us.

31:48

Okay. Or you talk to your

31:50

mechanic. And that's not the mechanic

31:52

that's working for the dealership. Because

31:54

I got them on the website

31:56

saying, no, don't do it. Oil

31:58

system problems. Can be any

32:01

vehicle if you? Extend the oil

32:03

changes too long That's all there

32:05

is to it. We talk about phasers

32:07

a lot in Ford trucks. We

32:09

talk about them in the lifters

32:12

and cams in GM trucks We

32:14

got valve valves or whatever it

32:16

might happen to be in Chrysler

32:18

trucks. I got a Toyota camera

32:20

right now. We're putting chains and

32:22

everything in it But any of

32:24

them is so mass-produced the

32:26

opportunity to hear about it.

32:28

It's high But we have a lot

32:31

of them, like Russ just said,

32:33

in cars that have phasers in

32:35

them, timing chains, you know, for

32:37

a pretty historical problem in 3.6

32:39

liter GMV8s. There's people that

32:41

brought those into our shop

32:44

with $200 miles that didn't

32:46

have that problem. Even the

32:48

Starship Enterprise occasionally needed new

32:50

phasers. I just wondered, like, on

32:52

that, this truck, yes, every 3,000

32:55

don't follow the, but what about...

32:57

My Mitsubishi galant is that one

32:59

where I didn't have phase can I

33:01

let it go a little longer? No,

33:03

but there are there are some cars

33:05

that tend to last longer on a little

33:07

longer oil changes with the right

33:10

oil Volkswagen seemed to hold up

33:12

pretty good. There was some three

33:14

five Ford ego boost in an

33:16

era also that had timing change

33:18

stretch. Okay. And that would oftentimes

33:21

give the symptoms. of phasers. Yeah,

33:23

like the 11 to 13. They

33:25

were really bad about that, but

33:27

now we're seeing 18. 17, 18

33:29

through 21 is where we've been

33:32

replacing a lot of these.

33:34

We did one of our

33:36

good customers, Michael and Talia,

33:38

do us there in Garrett's,

33:40

and he listened to the show

33:43

every week. Hi, Mike. They had

33:45

one that had this happen, and

33:47

they're like, got it to a

33:49

better vehicle because... they were tired

33:51

of the old one that kept

33:53

breaking and they're like we're gonna get this new

33:55

one it's not gonna have a problem and then

33:58

then they called it the lemon car because it

34:00

had you know conditioning hose leaks and it

34:02

was pretty new. I think it was a

34:04

I think it's a 20 maybe a 21

34:06

but it you know it started having these

34:08

things but then we get a lot of

34:10

other listeners too and they come in and

34:13

this phasers are out of these new cars

34:15

it's just another one of these things

34:17

like last week I got on the

34:19

rant which will forget about now about

34:21

new cars you spend so much money

34:24

and they're broken. Although I did have

34:26

a call on Monday again this week.

34:28

that has 41,000 miles on

34:30

it. It needs an engine. Another

34:33

one. No, this is their

34:35

first engine, but it's another

34:37

truck calling in, but they

34:39

need an engine. No, that's

34:41

I mean, it's another, because

34:43

you just had one. They've

34:46

had the vehicle for nine

34:48

months, but it's out of

34:50

warranty. Yeah, and they probably spent

34:53

$40,000 on that vehicle. It's

34:55

it's the same one that

34:57

Jim has same color and

34:59

everything. They spent $50,000 on

35:01

that truck at least Blaine.

35:03

Thanks very much for the call.

35:05

Good luck Let's take a break. I

35:07

do have two million dollar ideas Are

35:10

you gonna give them both away on

35:12

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35:16

and Doug we can let's play poker

35:19

with this one over here because when

35:21

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35:23

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35:25

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35:27

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35:29

whether it's... You've never paid poker with

35:32

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35:34

I want to go down that road.

35:36

He's smart enough to control it. 866,

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us here at the end of the

35:42

hood show. Let's talk to Drew. You're

35:44

on the end of the hood show.

35:46

Drew, what can we do for you? Yes,

35:49

sir. I bought a this just

35:52

as last weekend I I went

35:54

I found a I've been looking

35:56

for a Toyota four runner

35:58

I found a 2008 Toyota four

36:00

runner took it for a test

36:03

drive mainly drove it on the

36:05

highway and everything was fine and

36:07

then I ended up trading in

36:09

my truck got it and then

36:11

over the last so I've only

36:14

had it for you know Sunday

36:16

Monday Tuesday Wednesday oh I don't

36:18

like what's coming I don't know

36:20

what's coming in all here and

36:22

so like highway highway speeds I

36:24

don't notice it but if anything

36:27

from you know 20 to 30

36:29

miles per hour I start having

36:31

this kind of a, it feels

36:33

like it's on my driver's side,

36:35

but it's kind of a warm,

36:38

warm, warm kind of a grinding

36:40

or like, you know, friction noise.

36:42

And so all day on Tuesday

36:44

when I was at work, it

36:46

was just bothering me. I looked

36:49

on all sorts of forums and

36:51

stuff online and I found what

36:53

I think might be. Yeah, they

36:55

started putting these serrations on the

36:57

edge of the road. Those are...

36:59

That's about what it sounds like,

37:02

but I mean, if you don't

37:04

have the, you know, if you

37:06

don't have the radio or the

37:08

heater on, then you just really

37:10

know. How many miles are on

37:13

the forerunner? 98,000. Okay, there's a

37:15

question I have. If you have

37:17

the radio on loud, you don't

37:19

even notice it. It's just a

37:21

sound? Yeah, well I

37:23

can feel the vibration too. I

37:26

can feel the vibration in my

37:28

in my feet. Okay. Can you

37:30

ignore it? Is it faster hung?

37:32

I'm just asking. I think you

37:35

got a wheelburn. I probably could

37:37

ignore it. Yeah, that's what that's

37:39

what the technician at the shop

37:41

because I'm gonna I already called

37:43

the dealers service department and they

37:46

they want I'm gonna bring it

37:48

in to have them look at

37:50

it. But I actually found a

37:52

thing online. They actually published a

37:55

Toyota's technical service bulletin, front differential

37:57

cyclical groaning slash grinding. That's

38:00

not good. I still want to

38:02

check the tires first before anything

38:04

to make sure they're not cupped

38:06

on the edge because if they

38:08

are they will do this same

38:10

noise and it'll resonate But that

38:13

cyclical noise that you're hearing that

38:15

they're talking about that's a differential

38:17

thing because the hubs don't lock

38:19

and unlock on the front of

38:21

that the differentials always it's turning

38:23

and one side's decoupling so as

38:25

one side's turning the differentials moving

38:27

and the the the gears inside

38:29

of that thing are just kind

38:31

of they're they're speeding up and

38:33

they're slowing down as a go

38:35

and you're like that's not good

38:37

and I can't I don't remember

38:40

what their fix was for that

38:42

I thought it had something that

38:44

just changing the fluid to start

38:46

with the the bulletin that I

38:48

that I have one of the

38:50

other things that was saying on

38:52

this bulletin that I read was

38:54

if you put it in four-wheel

38:56

drive that goes away. Does that?

38:58

It stops. It stops. That puts

39:00

more tension on the gear set.

39:02

Well they span too. They're all

39:04

spinning at the same rate. So

39:07

that's a bad thing if they're

39:09

all spin at the same rate

39:11

and it goes away because the

39:13

wheelbarring is going to continue to

39:15

make noise in four-wheel drive. And

39:17

the tires would also. Unless you

39:19

start turning up. If it goes

39:21

away 100% then it may be

39:23

that it's just not 100 decoupling

39:25

that front axle. We had a

39:27

lot of that with the Fords.

39:29

We don't do a lot with

39:31

the Toyota on this, but with

39:34

the Fords, they won't decouple 100%

39:36

and some of the Chevy's, so

39:38

they wouldn't spend, they need to

39:40

spend either at the same rate

39:42

as everything else to keep the

39:44

noise away or not at all.

39:46

And if they're dragging a little

39:48

bit with those vacuum actuators as

39:50

they go bad, they'll try to

39:52

keep it engaged a little bit

39:54

and you'll get a groaning, you

39:56

know, you got to get rid

39:58

of that you get rid of

40:00

that you get rid of that.

40:03

You might get lucky here, and

40:05

it might just need a couple

40:07

of work done. Drew, thanks very

40:09

much for the call. Good luck.

40:11

866 594 4150. Let's talk to

40:13

Dan in California Dan you're on

40:15

the end of the hood show

40:17

what can we do for you?

40:19

Hey guys, how's it going? Fantastic

40:21

Dan! Great. Hey, I called a

40:23

few months ago and I left

40:25

the message and you guys called

40:27

me back, but I was never

40:30

able to answer the phone when

40:32

I was at work. We remember.

40:34

We know. But I have a

40:36

I have a 2021 Keoforte G.T.

40:38

It's the model that has the

40:40

turbo engine. I bought it brand

40:42

new in 21. I drive a

40:44

ton for work. I've got about

40:46

just shy at 90,000 miles on

40:48

it in the two years I've

40:50

had it. So here's the issue.

40:52

Here's the issue. The transmission in

40:54

this thing is rather odd, I

40:57

guess it's like it's real hirky

40:59

jerky and it shutters and it,

41:01

like you name it, it kind

41:03

of makes those. It's got a

41:05

DCT transmission, what can I tell

41:07

you? It just never seems like

41:09

it's really smooth, but it's not

41:11

like horrible, but I'm wondering if

41:13

I should like take it into

41:15

Kia and get it paid for

41:17

their diagnosis or whatever and see

41:19

if they... do anything to it.

41:21

I don't know if that's reprogramming

41:24

or what you guys think. You

41:26

can try but those Kias are

41:28

just not real smooth. Everyone I

41:30

have that comes in for other

41:32

repairs where they're not looking for

41:34

that problem. I drive them and

41:36

I'm thinking, boy this thing is

41:38

just you take off and you

41:40

hit about 30 and all of

41:42

a sudden it's like drops into

41:44

a that drum changes and it

41:46

gets into a higher ratio and

41:48

all of a sudden it's just...

41:51

It's like I shifted into too

41:53

high a gear too quick now

41:55

if you if you keep down

41:57

on it if you're taking off

41:59

it you know a third a

42:01

half throttle so you're really accelerate

42:03

it seems pretty smooth to me

42:05

but if I just want to

42:07

accelerate normally pull out onto onto

42:09

a road and start accelerating gently

42:11

it really drops gears or there's

42:13

no gears in there it's a

42:15

CVT so it really changes the

42:18

ratio quickly and gets that RPM

42:20

way down and then it's it's

42:22

just chuggy is that what yours

42:24

is doing no this one actually

42:26

has a dual clutch

42:28

transmission oh it does in

42:33

the morning when I'm pulling out of

42:35

work or pulling out of my place to

42:38

go to work and I put it in

42:40

reverse back up and I put it in

42:42

to drive it just did that like really

42:44

really low speed like it's kind of

42:46

it shakes a little bit sometimes

42:48

where it kind of shutters I

42:50

guess it's the best way to

42:52

describe it you said the magic word

42:54

dual clutch those are those are

42:57

problematic the Kias the Hyundai

42:59

stuff Ford Ford's really bad

43:01

about that, but they all

43:03

have that same inherent design.

43:05

They're just clunky. Ford did

43:07

on theirs when they had

43:09

problems. They did a number

43:11

of software updates that they

43:13

would put out to the dealers.

43:16

For some people it satisfied

43:18

their their dissatisfaction

43:20

with the way it's shift

43:22

and other people, they just

43:24

couldn't get used to the

43:27

way that transmission shifted. It's

43:29

like it's designed that way. It's supposed

43:31

to, it, it, they probably meant

43:33

for it to feel way

43:35

different when they originally engineered

43:38

it, but it's just the way

43:40

that works. It's working perfectly fine,

43:42

but they make noise. It's not hurting

43:44

anything. It's like owning a 5-3 Chevy

43:46

in the older generation, like the old

43:49

three. They all clunk when you start

43:51

the engine cold. They duck, duck, duck,

43:53

duck, and then it goes away, but

43:55

it never... explodes because of that.

43:58

It's just the way it's designed. with

44:00

pistons that take a minute to take

44:02

up the space as they warm up, but

44:04

that dual clutch transmission has always been

44:06

one that's a little more herky-jerky.

44:09

So he, Dan doesn't have anything to worry

44:11

about. I don't think so. But maintain it,

44:13

it's still a key of transmission, you know,

44:15

you got to maintain, do the fluid changes,

44:18

as recommended. And when they do that, if

44:20

you haven't done it yet, you're going

44:22

to want to inspect that fluid, make

44:24

sure there's not a bunch of

44:26

material in it. you know that

44:29

something is worn and broken. And

44:31

they may have some updates. And

44:33

there may be a software update. I

44:35

think it'd be worth doing that

44:37

if you're not satisfied with the

44:40

way it feels. Well, and how

44:42

many miles do you have on it?

44:44

90,000. So it's due for a change.

44:46

It's due for a change. Yeah, so let

44:48

me say this. I did change the

44:51

transmission fluid at 60,000. So

44:53

that was about 39,000 miles.

44:55

Did it look good? I mean

44:57

I'm religious about the oil. Yeah. Did

44:59

we get the, are we 100% we

45:02

got the right fluid in it?

45:04

Because there's, so... Or is it

45:06

different? Is it different now

45:08

than it was? There's equivalent,

45:10

there's fluids that say they're

45:13

an equivalent of the factory

45:15

that you can use, but they

45:17

don't necessarily give you the

45:19

same feel. Like with us, we use

45:21

a oil we get from shafers.

45:24

in all of the GM vehicles now

45:26

because it's taking care of some of

45:28

the shutter issues we had with those eight

45:30

speeds so we started doing it a friend

45:32

of ours that has a transmission shop

45:35

said you should try this and it

45:37

fixed their problems so we tried

45:39

it it fixed our problems it costs

45:41

a little more money but we avoid

45:44

all those shutter issues same thing with

45:46

these I have a couple brands of

45:48

that like Nissan NS3 and different things

45:50

that I get of special fluids and

45:53

I've tried one brand, it's not quite

45:55

as good as the other brand, even

45:57

though they both say NS3, they don't.

46:00

Perform quite as well even though they're

46:02

the same price. I guess the question

46:04

Dan is it did it do it

46:06

before the the change to or is

46:08

this a new thing? No it was

46:11

doing it before the change. In fact

46:13

I would see that the only time

46:15

that this car really had like a

46:17

smooth shifting transmission was like right when

46:19

I bought it in LA and then

46:21

I had like six miles on it

46:23

when I bought it. It was good

46:26

for maybe less than a year and

46:28

then I started definitely started noticing like

46:30

little pickups. What's the name of that

46:32

fluid do you recommend? Because I will

46:34

try that. I don't know if the

46:36

Schaefer fluid, they're not a partner of

46:39

ours, but I don't know if the

46:41

Schaefer fluid meets the recommendation for that

46:43

car, but if it does, if they

46:45

have a product for it, I would

46:47

try it out. You want it specific?

46:49

Specific for yours. All right, that'll do

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47:00

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47:02

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