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Gee, you know what I want to do right now? Listen

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to some fan mail I D

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two. Let's listen to this.

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Hi guys, it's Monica from Mexico.

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I have a question for you, guys, if you were

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to play any other character from

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Sandel, who would you be?

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And why?

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I love you guys?

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Oh so

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nice, Viva Mexico. I want to go

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there right now. Who

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would you I.

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Would want to play Cyrus?

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Oh my god, I was going to say you were.

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Cyrus is the jam. That role is

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fucking It's got everything, the media

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role.

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He's Iago, he's two faced,

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he gets to be and also he always

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redeems himself. He gets to be so

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awful and dark and then he's all up and

1:19

down and like all around.

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So juicy Cyrus, Juicy

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Cyrus. We are so

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lucky today that we have a

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huge gladiator but also

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an incredible talent

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studying humans. Have

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you guys ever met before?

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Oh? Yeah, well me and Simone. Simone

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and I did the movie Bros.

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Together.

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Yeah, and IM.

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One day we were coming back to the hotel and I was

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like, I'm trying. I had to gather

1:53

myself because I was trying not to freak out because

1:55

I was like, I knew exactly who you were, and

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I couldn't, like, I felt like I couldn't

1:59

be a professional.

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You know, I'm trying to be professional.

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When Clara's

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probably how Giermo was.

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Just exactly I was feeling the same thing

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about her.

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Yo.

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But obviously we've we've we've you

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know, we've let the cat out of the bag our guests

2:13

today. Sorry, I got

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I got four words for y'all. You're

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a Lenna baby.

2:21

We have Simone.

2:22

Simone is the winner of season

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thirteen of RuPaul's Drag Race and

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an amazing person, performer, artist.

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Thank you.

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We love you so much.

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I love you.

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We have the winner baby.

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And a fellow Madonna fan, and

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I think she's your But that's why I'm wearing

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this Madame x suirt just for you.

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We're friends. I call her Donna because

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we're friends, you know.

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Are you kidding me?

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Wait? Hold on, go

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back. This is really important content

2:50

for us. We spent a lot of time on this podcast talking

2:52

about Madonna. How did you meet

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Madonna real?

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When she was doing the Madam X era.

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She was seeing the visuals

3:01

the film for it, you know, yeah, and

3:04

she was doing an event in New York and

3:06

she needed a draft. She wanted to dract Meen to host

3:09

the event, and so her uh when

3:11

people ended up actually working he works for her. Now,

3:13

Jordan's shut out.

3:14

Hey in shapes, Hey Jordan.

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Yeah.

3:17

He reached out and was like, hey, Madonna

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is interested. Would you fly out? And I was

3:23

like, of course, you know, like

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most part, I think we had like two days

3:29

she told us like two days before

3:32

something like that. It was very short amount of time. So I had

3:34

to get looks together, get hair together, all.

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And and you're on the I think

3:39

the the Madam X Tour,

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which it's it's sort of a rockumentary.

3:44

Yes, it's on Paramount, I believe,

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right, is it on Paramount? And you and Simone

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and Aquaria I think it's Aquaria right, Aquaria,

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U do the Q and A. So they're they're

3:54

fielding questions from the audience for Madonna

3:57

Donald and they're.

3:57

Going, I think at one point you say bitch. You

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even called her bitch.

4:00

I mean in a loving way, but I was like, it's

4:03

dying inside and that day that you

4:05

filmed that, I was in New York City shooting

4:08

Law and Order Organized crime, and I

4:10

was shooting that day but at night, late at

4:12

night, and I walked. I was staying near

4:15

the Edison Hotel where you guys shot that, and

4:17

I stood outside with all the fans in

4:19

the rain like this, waiting

4:21

to see Madonna and

4:24

you were inside like chilling with

4:26

her, like drinking martinis.

4:28

I know what the fuck?

4:30

This was before you two had worked together, so

4:32

you didn't have the number.

4:33

To Yeah, this is like a year before to

4:37

the point, because we shot Bros. In October too,

4:39

didn't we? So I think that was the year. It

4:41

was the year after, Yeah, like literally a year.

4:44

Yeah, and they're crazy.

4:47

But listen, bone, yes, tell

4:49

us. How did you stumble

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upon Oh my God scandal? Where

4:55

and when and how did it start?

4:57

Okay? So I'm og. I've been there

4:59

since one.

5:02

Day, one moment, and I remember watching

5:04

the trailer on ABC. And

5:07

I'm a drama person. I love

5:09

drama. I love soap operas, and I love all I

5:12

love when everything is just over dramatic and everything.

5:13

It's just it's just my much.

5:16

And so I remember watching the trailer and be like,

5:18

I'm intrigued. I don't know what it's about necessarily, but I'm

5:20

intrigued, and so I watched it and

5:23

I was immediately obsessed with it. I love when

5:25

you have to watch every episode to understand

5:27

what's going on. In every episode, a piece of the

5:29

puzzle comes together, but you're still like, what's

5:32

happening, and you don't know what's happening

5:34

until literally the last thirty

5:36

minutes of the last episode of the season.

5:38

So I don't know.

5:39

I was just really was

5:42

just called to it. And of course Carrie Washington, I was

5:44

always a fan of her.

5:45

Were you like an appointment viewer where you

5:47

were like tuning in every Thursday night

5:50

and like on Twitter or you were watching

5:52

later?

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That's what I was in.

5:54

This was high school for me, I think eleventh

5:57

grade when it came out.

5:59

You're so, yeah, yeah,

6:05

I

6:05

grew up.

6:07

I love it.

6:08

I love it.

6:09

Those are such impressionable, are

6:11

they really are? Right? That's

6:14

very impressionable.

6:15

The Scandal is like my top five show.

6:17

Like it's like when I have a top five shoulders

6:19

and shows, I go back and just watched, and you know, I'll

6:21

pick a season and just hit it, and so like it's

6:23

it's a top five show for me because it's informed.

6:26

What are some of your favorite Like

6:29

do you have any favorite storylines

6:32

or scenes or things that you were just

6:34

like or fashion moments,

6:36

I mean anything. I mean we should probably ask all those

6:38

things.

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The fashion I really enjoy from

6:42

like season season

6:44

four on I.

6:46

Like, okay, let me let me break it down. So

6:48

I like season four.

6:49

I I

6:52

like when Olivia has like this this it's that

6:54

season, right, It's it's the season four last.

6:56

Season she has the hair straight or curly curly

6:59

hair, straight curly hair, but she has the curly

7:01

hair.

7:02

I like that season.

7:03

But also like when she's command in season seven

7:05

and she has like it's all very like straight

7:07

line, very business. Everything is very sharp. Yes

7:10

there's color, but it's all very business

7:12

and she's very commanding of

7:16

what's going on. Like I think that's my favorite

7:19

iteration of her. I also like her in season

7:21

three because I think she's Is she pregnant

7:23

at that point?

7:24

I think in that yes, Oh my god.

7:25

We just did an episode yesterday

7:27

and we were talking about how she was pregnant and

7:30

Jake Scott Foley was shooting this episode

7:32

with her and they had to work. They had to do a sex

7:34

scene and they had to figure out how to shoot

7:36

it because she was eight months pregnant. My

7:38

season three, you I can't believe

7:41

you know that, like you are freaking supervandage.

7:43

Oh yeah, because I remember because

7:46

she was always she's always in her her

7:48

fashions, which it was kind of it was either black

7:50

dark or it was kind of a little bit oversized,

7:53

but still like she still had a shape.

7:54

Yeah, it was very interesting.

7:56

Wriginale did it that season, but I was like, oh, she's

7:58

pregnant, you know. And I remember one

8:01

of my favorite scenes season three when

8:03

she's talking to Andrew and

8:06

Fitz finds out that they're having Andrew

8:08

and Milly are having an affair and she has to come into the

8:10

room and tail him. Basically, you either

8:12

you choose power or you choose love.

8:14

And I remember she said, my god.

8:16

She comes in with the I think it's is it

8:18

is it? I don't know, but

8:21

she comes.

8:21

In with the back probably yes,

8:24

she sets the bag down, she has her gloves, and she does

8:26

her home monologue.

8:27

That it's when I I go on YouTube and watch it.

8:29

It's one of my favorite scenes.

8:31

I love that.

8:33

I love that I love it, yo, But

8:35

also, I mean, you had some amazing looks,

8:38

Drag.

8:39

You have to check it out. Katie.

8:40

She had this one look where she has

8:42

a it's like a do you have a dog,

8:45

but the do Rag has like a long ass

8:47

train that goes all

8:49

the way down the runway.

8:51

And it was so beautiful.

8:52

It's my favorite three so

8:55

dopey.

8:56

I freaking loved it.

8:57

My favorite look it was the train. It

8:59

was the was it

9:02

was trains runway And I was like, how can you do

9:04

it? Because you know everyone's gonna do like a long gown something. I

9:06

was like, I want to do something that's

9:08

memorable, you know. And I

9:10

was like, why didn't Rag?

9:12

You know? And that's my favorite.

9:13

That was groundbreaking.

9:14

No one had ever done anything like that before, you

9:16

know what I mean, you like turned the

9:18

the streets into the freaking runway.

9:22

Dope.

9:23

It's so right. I'm

9:26

looking at it right now. Yes,

9:29

yes, my gosh, Simone, Wow

9:31

wow wow wow wow wow. Are you team

9:34

fits or team that's.

9:36

A good question.

9:37

This is hard, you know what I mean.

9:40

iMore, I go back and forth,

9:42

back and.

9:43

Forth because it's also season to season two.

9:45

Yes, the season four

9:48

is My face is my personal favorite season, and that's usually

9:50

where I start if I'm restarting.

9:52

Oh my god, I love it.

9:53

Is it your favorite gear mode? I haven't

9:56

gotten that far yet rewatching, so I

9:58

don't even remember kind of I went

10:00

into some I mean, I don't remember what happened for but

10:02

why.

10:03

So much was happening that season.

10:05

That's the season after fits Sun

10:07

Dies spoiler alert if you didn't know so

10:10

off of them coming back to the island, Fitz

10:13

is Mellie's a mess.

10:15

Fitz has had to run kind of run the country

10:18

on his own. You know, like he hasn't had any right.

10:20

Is he just like completely an alcoholic

10:22

since his sundight or no, that's something.

10:24

Else he was.

10:25

It was like they would do flashbacks like he was drinking

10:27

bad at first and then he like had

10:29

to get it together. I think the alcoholic moment

10:32

was but he didn't have an alcoholic woman.

10:33

You're right.

10:35

Then Olivia gets gets taken

10:37

by the vice president.

10:39

She's on the auction block, that one

10:42

that happens.

10:43

That's the episode where she's running.

10:45

So she's running the she's

10:48

running.

10:48

Yes, Oh she looks so so.

10:50

I mean, it's just a great season.

10:52

It's a great, she's she had to recordile, like

10:55

Fits had to reconcile being like the president, but

10:57

also on love and like what he the decision

10:59

he made it like and then she's coming after

11:02

her dad the whole time, like you guys are trying

11:04

to take command down the whole time, and

11:06

like it's just such a great season.

11:08

It's it's a beautiful season. Oh wait, I

11:10

didn't answer your question. I think

11:13

I landed on

11:15

Team Fits. I think by the end of it,

11:17

I land on Team Fits. But I do fluctuate.

11:19

Like season four, I was very much Team Jake.

11:22

Season five, I was Team Jake. Six

11:25

he kind of annoyed me, so.

11:26

I was back on Fit side. So

11:29

I go. I go back and forth.

11:30

The first two first three seasons, I was team Fits.

11:33

You know, it's hard.

11:34

What made you land ultimately on

11:36

Team Fits? Like do you remember?

11:38

I like their love story. I enjoy

11:40

it. I mean it's awful.

11:41

It's horrible, like the things that they did, Like, yeah,

11:44

okay.

11:44

Great, they're both murderers, murders,

11:47

you know.

11:48

He makes he sent people to war for love, like you

11:50

know, all these things, but I

11:53

enjoy the like all through it, he they

11:56

still were able to find it, you know, like you

11:58

see yours left on on the last episode,

12:00

you're left wondering do they end up together or do they not?

12:03

You know, and it's kind of a fresh start.

12:04

They're both out of power, they're

12:07

both just trying to figure

12:09

it out, and now they can actually have a

12:12

relationship that's not tainted by everyone

12:15

around the.

12:17

Yes, oh my god, have you ever met

12:20

Carrie?

12:22

I don't know if I want to have to make we

12:24

have to make it happen here, I will freak

12:26

sho.

12:27

We have to make it happen. You will be you

12:29

will you know what it's well, you two, I'm sure

12:32

both know how scary it is to like meet

12:34

your mineles because it could always be like,

12:36

oh no, they're meaning, or it was a terrible situation,

12:39

or like wasn't great. I would

12:41

bet money on that that has never happened

12:43

with anyone who's met Carry Washington, because she's.

12:45

She just seems like such a sweet, genuine,

12:48

the best person she.

12:49

Is and she takes it so seriously

12:51

like she's just so like a great and so

12:54

that neat. I mean, besides, I'm sure she's a huge

12:56

I'm sure she.

12:59

Asked me.

13:01

She believe you've never I've never

13:04

else scandal cant.

13:06

I don't think I've met anyone in the Scandal cast. I think

13:08

besides Gearmo, you're the only one that I've

13:10

met.

13:11

Yeah, I met you, So

13:13

that's greatly

13:16

annoyed.

13:17

Like Simon, what did you think

13:19

of Quinn? Hawk? Were you

13:21

just? Did you love us so much?

13:24

About you?

13:24

Guys? Okay, if

13:26

we must, you

13:30

know what I really enjoyed.

13:33

Can I be honest? And no one's gonna their feelings?

13:35

Great?

13:35

Okay, No, of course not Quinn.

13:38

At first I was not featuring.

13:41

I really liked her because

13:44

it was it was the goodie two shoes.

13:46

Of it all. I was just like, you

13:49

know, whatever.

13:50

Annoying any annoying

13:52

is the word, yes, annoying.

13:54

Around when you started training her,

13:57

I was like, Okay, she's coming to her own, like when

13:59

she really was coming into her own and like

14:02

season three, season four, actually

14:04

see again, you know when

14:07

you brought everyone back together, And

14:09

so I I enjoyed you from four

14:11

on and gear Ma I was always because

14:14

I like I like characters like

14:16

Huck who are complicated, complex and like at

14:18

first you meet them, you're like, oh, he's a weirdo, but you

14:20

go through when you've seen all that he's gone

14:22

through, all that he's given up, all that he's

14:25

like just had to go through as as a human being,

14:27

and most of us could not have them, let

14:29

alone live through that. So like I

14:32

I really enjoy Huck's character and I

14:34

and your character. I love towards the end when

14:36

you take over Op, it's QPA.

14:38

Now, oh yeah, that's why.

14:39

I can Yeah, can you

14:42

even believe?

14:43

But also Quinn's fashion changed

14:46

really fiercely to right, yes, and she

14:48

started wearing three and four, she started

14:50

wearing leather and high high

14:52

boot leather boots.

14:53

And all that. Yeah, much

14:55

more.

14:56

I had just squeezed myself

14:59

into these horrible pencil

15:01

skirts. Awful that I was finally

15:03

like, yes, she's wearing fucking skinny jeans

15:06

and boots and leather jackets and flannel because

15:08

she's a baby hunt.

15:12

Baby shirts.

15:13

You wearing T shirts to write, like sexy

15:15

T shirts and.

15:17

Way better all

15:19

around, like all around betterny tails.

15:23

We'll be right back. Guys.

15:30

Were you shocked when Huck and Quinn

15:32

got together?

15:33

Yeah?

15:33

I was like, what is this? Where

15:37

are we going?

15:39

So?

15:39

Were we?

15:40

But we loved it because we we we I

15:42

mean for you guys

15:44

filming.

15:46

Oh, we're so in love. We

15:49

came on the script and we were like, oh my god,

15:52

this is intense. And then we because we'd been like dear

15:55

close, soulmate friends for

15:57

years at this point, and all of a sudden,

16:00

now you have to like have dirty, dirty makeups them.

16:02

But we started to like be like we

16:04

need to be nasty like we

16:06

were. We should

16:08

not have sex scenes like fits

16:11

and Olivia. It shouldn't be movie ish

16:13

or like, this needs to be people who the

16:15

threshold of pain and pleasure runs

16:17

very close to each other. Yeah, so Geirma

16:20

was like, what's your safe for

16:24

popcorn?

16:26

Plus, we were so close at that point and

16:28

we trusted each other and I think I remember telling

16:30

Katie, Katie, do whatever you want, like let's

16:33

just go for it, for it, and we just went for it, and

16:35

we were just so comfortable and.

16:36

It was like, let me spit on you

16:39

on her.

16:39

At one point the licking, I

16:41

was like, the licking if that was

16:44

was that a direction or is that y'all just like going

16:47

That was in the script.

16:48

And by the way, then fans,

16:51

for years we would take photos

16:53

with fans and they'd always be like this is a pre

16:55

code world. Obviously, they're like coming up

16:57

and trying to like lick our face.

17:01

Yeah, oh my god. I was like, this is so

17:04

crazy, but I.

17:05

Remember that though.

17:06

It was so Yeah, it was such

17:08

a visceral thing, and I remember being right,

17:10

I think I did this. I was like, oh my because

17:13

it was just so it was just so it was just

17:15

so visceral.

17:16

I don't know, well, I lick her right, Hucklick's

17:18

win in one in one episode and then Quinn

17:21

does it tell later on when

17:23

they're outside remember odds. Yeah,

17:25

yeah, yeah, we were shooting that at the Hollywood

17:28

Cemetery remember that kiddy.

17:29

Right, and Garaba loved it because his horror.

17:32

Yeah, walking around the model. Yes,

17:36

this is my favorite day on set.

17:37

Do you ever You said you do still watch it

17:40

now? It's just like a bat like you're just like, oh

17:42

my god.

17:42

Like sometimes if I don't, especially if I have nothing

17:44

else to watch, I'll be like, what because it's on Hulu

17:47

now and so you can I'll just go and hit

17:49

it.

17:49

I have my comfort shows like that too.

17:51

Yeah, because sometimes, especially when I

17:53

was first rewatching it, there's lots of stuff that you miss

17:56

watching because it was you would have a week, so

17:58

you'd forget stuff, and so when you watch it back to back,

18:00

you're like, oh, that's

18:02

what was happening.

18:03

Especially in season six.

18:05

When I first watched it, it made no sense

18:07

to me. I couldn't understand what was

18:09

going on. But now I was like, oh, it's such

18:11

a smart.

18:13

Season, Simon.

18:14

That was our our deal while we

18:16

were shooting the show, because we were so in it. We

18:18

were shooting episode to episode, you know, every

18:20

week, and we didn't have time to really We

18:22

would watch the episodes, but we were live tweeting,

18:24

so we couldn't really pay attention. So

18:27

until Katie and I started watching rewatching

18:29

it again now for the podcast, and

18:31

we're like, oh my god, this show is amazing.

18:34

It is so good. I can't

18:36

like.

18:36

The writing is insane, especially for I

18:38

think back like when it was coming out.

18:40

It was another reason why it was so ground bager.

18:42

It is because of the writing and like I have the

18:45

love scenes, the action scenes,

18:47

the plots, and like things were harken back to

18:49

things that happen, like episodes ago that

18:51

you had to remember and.

18:52

Be like oh that and the

18:54

flashbacks and like all that. It's just so good.

18:57

It's just so good and it.

18:59

Still hits me, hits for us too.

19:04

Is there an episode?

19:05

Is there like a favorite scene

19:08

or episode or season or all of the

19:10

above.

19:10

That you guys, I'm so into what's going

19:12

on right now, like I, I mean,

19:15

I have such a special place in my heart for the

19:17

end because we got to shoot like the second to last

19:19

episode in actually Washington, DC. I

19:23

have such close memories

19:25

to us, like we ran around in

19:27

like escalade trucks, we

19:30

all like toward all the monuments

19:32

at night, like I you know, somebody's being wrapped

19:34

up in those sort of memories. What about

19:36

you g for me?

19:38

Seven fifty two of course, got that

19:40

episode where we see Hawk's backstory.

19:42

And flashes back. Yeah yeah

19:45

yeah.

19:46

And also and also Yolo where i Hu

19:49

pulls Quinn's teeth out.

19:51

Oh I love that dark Ship.

19:53

You haven't gotten there yet either, but remember there's

19:55

an episode with the water You're like in the right

19:58

and they're like the whole.

20:00

Oh that's when that's

20:02

when when

20:04

she flats read what's

20:06

the name?

20:07

Oh y yabby abby yeah?

20:10

Or read yeah, yeah, oh god

20:13

that was.

20:13

That was oh ship.

20:14

That's sometimes that's the episode I can watch too,

20:16

I'll watch that one.

20:17

Like Solo, that was a hard episode.

20:19

Gee, I think that might be up there for you when

20:21

we get there. When we watched it.

20:23

Yeah, I was wet that whole episode, whether

20:25

I was inside or outside. You had to soak

20:28

me with water every single day

20:30

and it was nightmare.

20:32

How long did that take to film? Like your part?

20:34

We I mean we shoot the We shot the shows

20:36

in like eight to ten days, right, Katie.

20:39

Yeah, eight to ten days per episode.

20:41

And then it depended on hours, right, we'd

20:43

shoot what eighteen to maybe sixteen

20:46

hours sometimes.

20:47

I'd say a short day was fourteen hours a

20:49

day. And then the longest day we ever had I think it was like twenty

20:52

one go wow. Yeah,

20:54

it was a beast

20:56

the show. And like Simone,

20:58

you are the greatest or being a gladiator

21:01

since day one, I don't think we've had like an

21:03

O G gladiator.

21:04

We have it not a celebrity one. Yeah.

21:06

Yeah.

21:07

And and we we need to plan on bringing

21:10

you on when because we're having carry back on

21:13

so we should plan on bring Yeah.

21:15

I will clear, We'll figure it out.

21:18

Yes, I will.

21:19

Figure out if we could have you on and just

21:21

do like a quick like ten minute like make

21:24

all of our dreams come true? Love?

21:26

Yes, oh my god, real

21:28

quick, what do you have coming up? Like? What what can

21:31

we see you in next?

21:32

Tell us what you're coming up in?

21:34

Gladly? I okay.

21:35

So we are actually in pre production

21:38

for our show avalon TV,

21:40

which you can find on persons please nice,

21:42

and we're doing season two so

21:45

we're gonna start filming that really soon and that should

21:47

come out probably a little bit later this year.

21:49

So be on thee. Where can we see that, Simone? Where

21:51

can we see it?

21:52

Presents? Plus? Yeah?

21:54

Right on? Yeah?

21:56

Or season one is already up, so if you want to watch and

22:00

and gg Good is in it?

22:01

Right in it? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

22:03

my.

22:03

Whole house is in it. And our friend

22:05

Riley's in it as well.

22:07

Yeah amazing, how

22:09

yeah, so cool.

22:11

Thank you so much for giving us some.

22:13

Of your time much

22:16

so much.

22:16

Oh my god, it means so so much

22:18

to Yes, thank you for being on and

22:20

thank you for watching the show.

22:22

Yes, we love you.

22:23

I love you.

22:24

Could Simone be any cooler?

22:27

I don't think that's possible.

22:28

No, And you are such a fan. See I've

22:31

never watched that show, am I an I'm a loser.

22:33

I'm you should know you're not a loser. It took me

22:35

a while to get into

22:38

Drag Race. I didn't watch it for a long time,

22:41

and then I started watching season six, and

22:43

then I was hooked.

22:46

Five hundred.

22:47

Oh my god, they're like season fifteen.

22:49

I think fourteen or fifteen. Yeah, but

22:51

Simone was the winner of her season. I think it

22:53

was like, what was her season? I think it was like twelve

22:55

or thirteen. I might be mistaken, but and

22:58

that's what I mean.

22:58

I just feel so honored

23:01

that she like knew anything,

23:04

you know, like that she was a Scandal fan, and like it

23:07

was so more like, oh yeah,

23:09

she knows more about the episodes that we did buy a

23:11

lot.

23:12

Yes, yes, I definitely want to have her back on

23:14

me too.

23:15

Me too.

23:16

Okay, let's get into this episode breakdown.

23:19

Yes, we're talking about episode three oh six

23:21

called Icarus. It aired on November

23:23

seventh in twenty thirteen.

23:25

And it was written by Peter Noah and directed

23:27

by Julie Ann Robinson.

23:29

Who I love and I'm working with right now.

23:31

Julianne Robinson is directing The Hunting

23:34

Wives, which is the show I'm working on right now.

23:36

No way, yes, uh.

23:38

Yes, that's awesome. I feel like she directed

23:41

me in Weeds. She directed a

23:43

couple of episodes of Weeds.

23:44

Yeah, she's like been around

23:46

the bush. She's just so great and knows

23:49

everything and she's awesome. Okay.

23:52

Guest starring the Go Could this girl

23:54

be any gorgeous?

23:56

Yara Shahidi as young Olivia Pope,

23:58

Candy Alexander as Mile lou Is. Another

24:01

stunner, Lisa Kudrow another stunner

24:03

as Congresswoman Josie Marcus, Jack Coleman

24:05

is Daniel Douglas Langston.

24:08

Paul Adelstein as Leo Bergen. Another

24:10

stunner, Sally Pressman

24:12

as Candice Marcus, Sharmila Davarr

24:15

as Lauren Wellman, and Cameron Watson

24:17

as Reverend Coles.

24:18

Okay, this episode is a beast, so listen

24:21

up to this scandal pay synopsis. Olivia

24:23

presses Fits for information on Operation Remington.

24:25

Convinced that Fits was responsible for the plane

24:27

crash that killed her mother because of his refusal

24:30

to even talk about it, Olivia decides that the OPA

24:32

team will back Congresswoman Josie

24:34

Marcus on her presidential campaign.

24:36

Meanwhile, Sally Langston begins her campaign

24:38

behind Fitz's back. But Cyrus is

24:41

one step ahead of the whole time.

24:44

Okay, this episode was crazy.

24:46

Did you do your notes about it?

24:48

I sure did, Yeah, I hear yours.

24:51

Can we get props to the person

24:53

that taught us this gem

24:56

of a thing? Is Sanna

24:58

Simone? Oh yeah,

25:00

yes, yes. When we did the New Girl podcast,

25:03

she did it for well, she did the Scandal

25:05

podcast. She did it for us. Yes, and

25:08

I just fell in love with it.

25:09

It's so much love to do.

25:10

It's fucking hilarious. I can't wait to hear what you

25:12

say. Okay, Scandal pays tell us about episode

25:14

three oh six Icarus.

25:16

Ge here we go, y'all.

25:19

Y'are Shahidi, Candy, Alexander. I am loving

25:22

that they are the first thing we see. And that song

25:24

so familiar, so good, a blast from the past.

25:26

This is gonna be good. Cut to live in

25:28

thought, distraught, still looking hot?

25:31

Oh hell yeah, there she is, she got this

25:33

getting thee to the White House. Sally and

25:35

Leo. Leo and Sally, it don't really matter. They're one

25:37

and the same, always plotting.

25:39

Ooh.

25:39

Miss Olivia's pressing fits about Operation Redmington.

25:42

She needs to know everything, but he's not having it. He shut

25:44

that sitch down, so live is out?

25:46

Oh damn, here we go. Wait a minute, did Smelly

25:48

just call Liblehore? Yes, yes she did

25:51

not the first won't be the last? Shady ah

25:53

shit, sexy heels and a gun Katie so

25:55

hot? Wait for it?

25:57

So no one tonj in life us gunn

26:00

be this way.

26:03

Jobs they

26:07

Yes.

26:07

The Lisa Kudro appeals on our show, so honored.

26:09

No trace of phoebe here and Josie and we're

26:12

loving it. And that pie cherry rubarb brasberry.

26:14

What is it? I'm so hungry. Martin and Perry

26:16

are up?

26:16

People, Actors, get your notebooks out acting classes

26:18

in session. Who's this hotty with Jake Funny?

26:21

She looks a lot like Marika.

26:22

Oh my god, Gee, you gotta

26:24

publish this fucking poem when with this

26:26

episode comes out? This is unbelievable.

26:31

Who's the hotty with Jake Funny? She looks a lot

26:33

like Marika? Coincidence, I think not. Meanwhile,

26:35

Josie is not going negative with her campaign.

26:38

She's just not. This episode is very Collagy

26:40

jump jump jump into and fro. But it works. It always

26:42

works on Scandal. Not Joe with the tight fro and mustache.

26:44

Yes, he's got bad news bears for baby live so

26:47

sad well, nothing a big old glass of veno can't cure

26:49

for growing Olivia. And now she can ask one

26:51

question, only one, getting deep. Leave

26:53

the past there, he says, leave it there? Why

26:55

do I so love James? Inside bickering it's

26:57

the best oive Harrison is stressing about a NATSIALI.

27:00

Oh shit, Josie went off on Live, but I like it

27:02

and I think Live does too. Yo, I am feeling

27:04

the pearl game in this episode. Melly and Sally are

27:06

rocking the oyster treasures right.

27:08

Oh? Man, I love Quinn Huck.

27:10

She wants to know B six thirteen if B six thirteen

27:12

screws you up forever. But now's not a good

27:14

time, man, is it ever? Oh

27:16

James, he was not ready for Josie. Okay,

27:19

so don't mess with this queen. She is a woman here

27:21

her roar and.

27:22

All of that.

27:22

And also watching Jake do push ups makes

27:24

everything okay for now till

27:27

his hot lady friend gets stuffed out.

27:29

Ouch.

27:29

That was a close call. Now the business of Harrison and Cyrus.

27:32

These two are magic together. But hell nah,

27:34

Sia is getting not a whole new visa. What

27:37

the what some epic music

27:39

and living fits now I'm hearing.

27:41

I'm here for it, all of it. Wow, this scene

27:43

is intense. I need to drink the end. Oh my god,

27:46

that was a.

27:46

Lot fucking believable.

27:50

And that's our episode. Folks, have

27:52

a good one. We'll see you next time.

27:55

By everyone real quick won the

27:57

episode? I mean who won the episode? In

27:59

acting? Oh man, it's really

28:01

like fraud, Like I

28:04

think, Lisa Kudro.

28:05

You know what, I think you're right.

28:06

I think I honestly I got

28:08

silent because I was like, I just watched

28:11

this episode and the next one, and I'm

28:13

like, yeah, I think you're right. Lisa Kudrou freaking

28:15

killed it in this episode. Yeah.

28:17

She was so good. She had so many scenes. I mean, this

28:19

episode is so much about you

28:21

know, Olivia's like, fuck you, white

28:23

House, I'm not working on Fitz's campaign

28:26

and to get you back, I'm gonna run the campaign

28:28

for Josie Marcus played by the

28:30

amazing Lisa Kudro. And Lisa just has

28:32

so many things about like what

28:34

type of candidate she is and how

28:37

she's so likeable, and how Live is like teaching

28:39

her, how to toughen up and be what

28:41

America wants. And she's practicing all the interviews

28:43

and then you're seeing her do the debates and then you're like,

28:46

she just had.

28:46

So much to do.

28:48

She's so strong in this episode and that

28:50

scene with James Novak with Dan Bucatinski,

28:53

Yo, she blew it.

28:54

Out of the water.

28:55

I felt so bad for James in

28:57

that scene. But Yo, she needed to

28:59

do that. That that she brought her,

29:02

you know, beyond, it brought her up from

29:04

where she was as a candidate.

29:06

Right.

29:07

They make a fake video of rest

29:09

in sort of like making a

29:11

campaign.

29:12

Commercial weak

29:14

and yeah.

29:15

Yeah that Josie Marcus isn't tough enough to

29:18

run the you know, run America.

29:20

And she comes in and she's like, you're a sexist pig.

29:22

You're all fucking sexist pigs, even you James

29:24

Novak, who walked in here and said like, you

29:27

know, thank you so much for having me over.

29:29

She's like, I didn't invite you over.

29:32

Yeah, and this this picture of Tea

29:34

is fake.

29:34

Yeah you wanted this. Like everything

29:36

you're all doing is a bias.

29:39

It's it's a whether it's a conscious or

29:41

unconscious sexist feeling,

29:43

like that's what's going on here. So

29:45

she just fucking she really did.

29:47

She was And the great thing is that this

29:50

is the first time we see Josie

29:52

Marcus most.

29:53

Stuff, we've definitely seen her and it's so

29:56

sad.

29:56

And then it gets juicier in episodes to come,

29:58

like her storyline gets do you see her?

30:00

We will be back with more after

30:03

the break the

30:08

fashion moments, nothing

30:12

stucky, did

30:15

anything stick out for you?

30:17

Not really listen when whenever maa Ope

30:20

is on screen, like her fit

30:22

is always so so good, But

30:25

you know we didn't we didn't see We see her at the top of

30:27

the show, but then we don't really see her anymore.

30:29

Right in this episode.

30:34

We have to have a major silent moment

30:36

for this is the episode where and

30:38

I would love to know which writer in the Scandal

30:41

Writer's room created this, but that Charlie

30:44

in this episode calls Quinn.

30:47

Yes, which is what we end up naming our

30:50

base. Shit, I don't remember that,

30:52

Katie really.

30:53

Yeah, Wait, her

30:55

name's Robin.

30:56

Does he call Huck Batman? Doesn't

30:58

he call Hawk Batman?

30:59

So what is he's He doesn't call you batman?

31:01

But because I'm your little.

31:03

Bitch, where's Batman at one

31:05

of the episodes. I remember saying like, oh, what

31:07

about Batman or something like that.

31:09

I thought, oh, maybe he maybe

31:11

he did.

31:11

So who is he? What is Charlie? Is he Superman?

31:14

Right? Like?

31:16

And a fun fact, George

31:18

Newburn does the voice of Superman

31:21

in the in the cartoon in

31:23

the animated series.

31:25

Totally does. Yes, he totally,

31:27

totally, totally does.

31:29

But I love that this is this is the first time he calls

31:31

you, Robin.

31:31

Yeah, when we're in the We're in a shoot

31:34

range and you know, Quinn is sucking

31:36

it at shooting guns and nailing

31:38

it in the target. And Charlie's also

31:40

there, and he comes over and she's like, oh, fine,

31:43

give me your advice. I mean, my acting

31:45

was annoying, but not as annoying.

31:46

As Yo, did you actually get

31:49

to shoot? Did you guys?

31:50

Go?

31:50

You?

31:50

You filmed it had a shooting range obviously,

31:53

and we shot shot He was so scary.

31:55

The first time I've ever shot a gun.

31:57

Have you shot guns on I have shotguns on on

32:00

other on other films and on Scandal?

32:01

Yeah yeah, I shotguns on Scandal.

32:03

I've never shot real. I mean, yeah,

32:06

I shot real. We were a real shooting range.

32:08

Wow, we had to really like

32:11

shoot real bullets and

32:14

there's real kickback and it's real

32:16

freakin' loud. And I

32:18

was not raised around guns. I'm so like

32:20

squeamish around them. I don't I'm

32:22

like completely freaked out.

32:24

But listen on Scandal, it was always

32:26

it was always so thoughtful

32:28

in those moments where we had a weapon that

32:30

our our our props team was so

32:33

great about making sure we knew that the

32:35

gun was safe and how to hold it.

32:37

Yeah, and you know all that stuff.

32:39

So yeah, but like so

32:41

scary and I had to protect there's nothing that

32:44

is maybe my best acting then, wow, because

32:46

didn't I look like a bad It wasn't afraid

32:48

of guns?

32:49

Not according to that reviewer that

32:51

we read that's

32:54

coming up. Oh shit, Oh.

32:57

Yeah no, no, no, I I

33:00

I did the best acting work of my life in

33:02

that I looked like I was a

33:04

fucking badass with a gun.

33:06

And basically Charlie is sort of getting

33:08

you ready to come work for command,

33:12

right, like he sort of six thirteen, Yeah,

33:14

to come work for b six thirteen, which

33:16

is yeah, yeah, it's

33:19

so sad when it gets closer to

33:21

that, and Quinn's like, what yeah,

33:24

yeah, but we'll get there.

33:24

Okay. Some of my favorite lines

33:27

from the episode of just like not you know,

33:29

holy shit, Shonda Rhymes and these writers are fucking

33:31

unbelievable womans was I

33:34

love in the top of the episode when

33:36

the whole thing is sort of switched and we

33:38

realized that Melli has called Olivia

33:40

to come to the White House because she truly believes

33:42

that unless Olivia Pope runs FITs' campaign,

33:44

there's no way he's going to win a second term. And

33:48

she has like she wins elections,

33:51

and then she just storms away and she's

33:53

being.

33:53

Doesn't she say something like I practically

33:55

wrapped your little horror in a

33:58

tinfoil or something and handed her to you

34:00

and you screwed it up or something like

34:02

that.

34:03

Her lines are not to be

34:05

believed, just not believed, not

34:07

to be believed.

34:08

Yes, yes, I love when Okay,

34:11

I love when Olivia has that speech

34:13

when she's talking about the

34:15

weather with Eli and she's like, my father

34:17

is the thing that goes bump in the night.

34:20

I thought that was really cool.

34:21

How what do you think of your acting in this episode?

34:23

This wasn't like.

34:24

A huge No, Huck was listened.

34:26

Huck was brooding a lot. He's very

34:28

crafty, huck, was it crafty a lot? Eating

34:31

Mexican bowls? Remember, we'd get Mexican bowls

34:33

on set and we'd all come to the where

34:36

all our chairs were, where that, you know, with the cast

34:38

waights before we shoot our scenes, and

34:40

somebody would be like, Yo, there's Mexican bowls

34:42

at Crafty and we'd get so excited.

34:45

Mexican bowl you mean you make it like a taco

34:47

salad, Yes, yes, yes, where you like

34:50

put a bunch of like chips down or

34:52

tortilla, then you

34:54

put ah ton of lettuce, you

34:56

know, like the shredded iceberg, then a

34:58

ton of ground beef, than a ton

35:00

of cheat shredded cheese, then pico

35:03

degayo, guacamole, and

35:06

some like you know, some other kind

35:08

of sauces. And that's your mouth.

35:12

It's what did you have you eaten anything? Today?

35:15

It's very early in the morning, you guys. It's nine

35:17

thirty in the morning right now.

35:19

It's later for me because I'm on the East coast. But yes,

35:21

I had two scrambled eggs and a piece

35:23

of.

35:23

Toast, a wheat toast, a sour

35:26

dough white.

35:26

I like, like the twenty one grain.

35:30

Dave's Killer Bread. Hey, Dave's Killer Bread.

35:32

If you want to do a collab a post,

35:35

you want to sponsor this podcast.

35:39

I had an everything bagel with vegan

35:42

cream cheese, onions

35:45

and heirloom tomato and Tabasco

35:47

sauce on top.

35:48

Wo And why do you do the vegan

35:50

cream cheese because the regular cream cheese makes your stomach.

35:53

No.

35:53

No, I'm just trying to be listen, I'm just

35:55

trying to be healthier and eat more plant based

35:57

And it was actually really good.

36:00

Bad. Yeah.

36:01

Is there something you watched that made you do that?

36:03

No?

36:04

No, I know there's some stuff on,

36:07

like right on the streaming platforms

36:09

about like.

36:10

Oh my god, there's a bunch of documentary

36:12

shit.

36:12

You are what you eat, I mean more

36:15

for I mean not not only

36:17

for health reasons, but the

36:19

study I read like that if

36:22

every person on the planet had one

36:25

meal a day that had no plant

36:27

based i mean, no animal products

36:30

in it, that we would completely reverse climate

36:32

chain. Wow.

36:33

No way, Yeah, there's no way

36:35

that that would happen in the Midwest and so

36:37

many other parts of the country.

36:39

Way, there's no way.

36:42

There's no way. It's a really good thing. Okay, it's

36:44

called you are what you eat. Okay, what

36:46

else we didn't eat? In the episode Eating,

36:50

Olivia drank the shit out of the biggest

36:52

goblet of red wine like I've ever seen.

36:54

And do you remember what it was that she actually

36:56

drank.

36:57

It was like her favorite grape juice, wasn't

36:59

it.

36:59

She loved it and sometimes she

37:01

loved it like it was like a Welch's grape

37:04

juice, and she loved it so much.

37:06

And sometimes when I'm watching her act as Olivia,

37:08

I can tell that it's grape juice and not because

37:10

she because she's kind

37:12

of like doing like a thing with her mouth

37:15

where you could tell she like, you

37:17

know that it's really sweet and

37:19

not like a kind of like a bitter

37:22

why, you know, Like I

37:24

feel like grape juice and red wine have a totally

37:26

different team. Okay,

37:30

Okay, so Lisa kudro one we did that, I

37:34

think the other oh,

37:36

we forgot a huge eating moment that

37:38

was a total fuck up and all these actors are terrible

37:41

and they should get slaps on the wrist. There's an entire

37:43

dinner scene in the President's wing of

37:45

a couple, double couple, Double trouble, scene

37:48

with the Langston with Sally and

37:50

Daniel Douglas and Fits and Mellie and

37:52

no.

37:52

One need.

37:56

Unbelievable shame,

37:58

shame, shave,

38:03

shave well listen And in defense

38:05

of background food,

38:08

sometimes there will just be like

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they'll just sometimes props will say,

38:13

hey, don't eat to the background.

38:15

Like I've heard them be like, hey, try not to eat because

38:17

they.

38:17

Don't have a lot of something like they're going to run

38:20

out. Yes, we can still

38:22

just make fun of you.

38:23

Yeah we can.

38:25

There are friends they don't exactly okay

38:28

fun fact, aiming with one eye closed

38:30

like Quinn does in the shooting range is a sure fireway

38:32

to miss. Hey, that's not true.

38:35

I'm working with guns right now on this show

38:37

and they keep telling me to close one eye.

38:40

Really.

38:40

Yeah, I don't know why.

38:42

Yeah, I mean, I didn't know that that was a thing.

38:44

I'm going to ask and get back to you on that. But

38:46

I'm pretty sure when I've been in the gun range a lot

38:49

lately because again the show I'm on is called The Hunting

38:51

Wives, so guns are in Baltimore

38:55

and we we totally have one eye

38:57

down on the thing. Really Uh

39:01

oh okay,

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oh, what's that birdie bird.

39:07

Oh, I think it's a bird tweeter.

39:10

It's a tweeter bird.

39:12

It might be.

39:15

The time. Okay,

39:18

this is at love. Hannah wrote

39:20

hate Living Jake, but I kind of don't

39:23

mind Huck and Jake except when they

39:25

crushed Live's heart tonight. Hashtag scandal?

39:27

Whoa do you think Huck and Jake could have ever been

39:29

a thing?

39:29

Oh? Man, listen, here's

39:32

hoping. How

39:34

happy would I have been if that was a thing.

39:36

If they gave a love affair to between,

39:39

created a love affair between Huck and Jake.

39:41

I'm here for it, all of it.

39:43

I'd be here for it to see.

39:44

Sarah cavill at Dragonfly

39:47

seventy five cheated. There are actual human

39:49

people that think Olivia Fits is

39:51

over? Have you never watched a TV

39:53

show before?

39:54

Gay?

39:55

Hashtag scandal, hashtag gladiator? Is

39:57

she trying to Is she throw in some shade? Is she

39:59

trying to be like you guys, it's just TV. Stop

40:01

getting so worked up about Living Fits? Is

40:03

that what she's trying to say?

40:05

I think she's trying to say, like, Olivia

40:07

and Fits are over for right now? But like, come on, guys,

40:09

we all know TV they're going to get back together.

40:12

Also like both things, like

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have you never watched fucking TV before?

40:16

She's not wrong, She's not wrong, No.

40:18

She's at Corinne Stark seven fifty

40:21

two tweeted, oh, seven fifty two

40:24

at Tony Goldwyn, I loved the phone call last

40:26

week, But can we expect any sexy

40:28

olits on the horizon? Hashtag scandal

40:31

for sure? We're so into these two.

40:33

Eric Stadius at Estadius

40:37

tweeted, Olivia watches that one being

40:39

poured into the glass like a serial killer

40:41

hash Texican.

40:43

She's like, let me get that grape juice, keep

40:45

pouring.

40:46

At Jennifer Pollock tweeted casual

40:49

How Phoebe Buffet is running for president?

40:52

Hashtag scale? I bet, yes,

40:54

she's an amazing actress, but like.

40:57

She's so so.

41:00

Your Kana at Forever

41:02

Gladiator tweeted, we all think Olivia's mom

41:04

is still alive. That probably

41:06

means she isn't hashtag

41:09

scandal, hashtag expect the unexpected

41:12

hashtag you're wrong, girl, she's alive.

41:16

At Watch with Poppy tweeted, okay, Gladiators,

41:18

I'm working on a scandal theory. What if MoMA

41:20

Pope turns out to be a bad guy.

41:24

Didn't everyone think that right?

41:27

Listen Bella Dame Noir at Bella

41:29

Dame Noir, tweeted at Kerry Washington.

41:31

Does the cast your theorize

41:33

in and speculate about future episodes

41:35

as much as the Gladiat Gladiators do hashtag

41:38

scandal. Yes, yes we do. Yes, yes we

41:40

did.

41:40

One hundred This

41:43

is the cutest picture of us. Love it at

41:45

Gladiators for Life wrote

41:48

the Gladiators are up and ready for hashtag

41:50

scandal hashtag scandal Thursday. And it's

41:52

a picture of Darby, Quinn,

41:56

Harrison, and Hawk all with

41:58

like gladiator bodies from like what

42:01

the three hundred or Gladiator?

42:04

Maybe? Yeah, we look hard, look at

42:06

the look at our bodies.

42:08

My body has never looked like that.

42:11

Oh my god, it's all them taco taco

42:14

salads. Girl, keep the

42:16

chips out.

42:16

It's all that real acting I'm doing when I eat,

42:19

really eating the scenes.

42:21

Uh George Props at Baski

42:24

Social Oh this is this George Props. Yeah, it's

42:26

scandal props, tweeted at

42:28

Scandal ABC. Uh, behind

42:30

the scenes episode of three oh six Scandal

42:33

prop quiz time? What book was Olivia

42:35

reading in?

42:37

Fish bookback?

42:40

I said, fish book

42:42

get out of here? Book was here.

42:45

I don't know, Madie, I just tried to do this

42:47

to my paper. I'm

42:50

not even kidding.

42:52

I tried to enlarge a piece of

42:54

actual like paper with

42:57

my fingers, like do you want your iPhone

42:59

to make get into a close up?

43:01

But I'm I think the human race is done?

43:04

Does tell right?

43:06

I'm so curious to see what it could be. My

43:08

god, can you believe how cute YadA

43:10

Shank's.

43:11

So cute and now she's like so beautiful, a

43:13

lovely young lady.

43:15

I mean, she's gorgeous.

43:16

She's unbelievable. She's so gorgeous.

43:19

At Scandalicious five tweeted aside from

43:21

all the twisty and shady b six thirteen matter, this

43:23

is a really beautiful family with pictures of Carrie,

43:26

Candy Alexander and Joe Morton, and which

43:28

is true?

43:29

So true?

43:30

What us? I mean? I feel like Joe

43:32

Morton and Candy Alexander probably

43:34

should have had real life babies together to

43:36

just show human beings

43:39

how gorgeous.

43:41

Just for that reason, they should have liked

43:44

a baby or handsome.

43:46

Yes, and she's so beautiful.

43:48

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43:54

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43:59

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44:02

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44:02

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44:05

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44:08

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44:10

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