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go? Greenland? I went to
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got back. Oh, excellent. Oh,
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excellent. Jordan's
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King of Della is in the US to
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meet President Trump. But it may be a
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tense meeting. The king, like most of
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the world's leaders, has rejected Trump's calls
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for the more than 2 million Palestinians
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in Gaza to be displaced to Jordan
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from NPR News. President
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Trump imposed new tariffs on imports of
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global metals. Economists say that's good for
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American steel and aluminum companies, but not
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so good for other industries. You lose
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jobs in the manufacturing sector when you
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put together the higher costs of input
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and the retaliation, which is sure to
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come. So what's the president's game plan?
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And the federal corruption case against New
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in theaters everywhere. President
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Trump and Jordan's King Abdullah are meeting
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today at the White House. Jordan is
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one of the closest U.S. allies
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in the Middle East, but today's
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meeting is expected to be a
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little awkward, to say the least.
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Trump has floated pushing Palestinians from
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Gaza into Jordan and Egypt. That's
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a plan rejected by both countries
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and the Palestinians. To discuss what
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to expect today, and PRS Jane
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Araf joins us from Jordan's capital.
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I'm man. Hi, Jane. Hi, Jane.
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The tone of this meeting will
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be after Trump has repeatedly said
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he wants the Palestinians out of
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Gaza and wants to own it.
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Yeah, I would expect tenths and
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that's probably an understatement. It's hard
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to put a good face on
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this. That's because, as you noted,
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Jordan is a key ally and
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without any consultation. According to Jordanians
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and White House officials, Trump floated
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that plan last week during a
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meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
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Netanyahu for the U.S. to take
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over Gaza and forcibly push 2
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million Palestinians to Egypt and Jordan.
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Monday night, Trump doubled down,
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threatening Jordan if it didn't
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accept the plan. If they
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don't agree, I would conceivably withhold
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adium. So Jordan is a small
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country with a large number of refugees
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and it relies on foreign aid, but
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this plan is one of those rare
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ones that has united citizens and the
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country's leaders in opposition to it. And
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what is the king likely to say?
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Well I spoke with Marwan Washer, the
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foreign foreign minister of Jordan now
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with a Carnegie endowment think tank.
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He says this is going to
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be one of the toughest meetings
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the king has faced. Let's listen. The
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meeting is not going to be an
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easy one because there is no amount
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of pressure in my view that the United
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States can exert. that Jordan can
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accede to. This is an
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existential issue to Jordan. And by
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that he means that creating an
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alternative Palestinian homeland here means
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that Jordan would essentially cease
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to exist as a country
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in many ways. The majority
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of its citizens are already
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descendants of Palestinian refugees. So
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this is something that Jordan
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doesn't believe it could or
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ever would agree to no matter
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what the cost. Now, as you
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point out, Jordan has rejected this
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plan, but what has the government
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officially said so far? Well, the
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Jordanian Foreign Minister, I'm in the
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Sufadi, has quite clearly said that
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expulsion of Palestinians here would be
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a breach of its historic peace
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treaty with Israel, and therefore, seen
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as a declaration of war. Despite
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that Trump keeps insisting Jordan and
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Egypt will succumb to US pressure
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and the US has leverage in
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the form of aid, does Jordan
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have leverage? I asked Moasher who's
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also former senior official at the
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World Bank about that. Here's what
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he said. Jordan gets $1.5
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billion from the United States
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each year. Any loss of
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that assistance is going to
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produce economic difficulty for Jordan.
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This is not to say also that
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cutting off aid to Jordan is not
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that easy. So he points out
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that Congress would be quite
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resistance to this because it's
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a friend, many of Congress
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people are friends of Jordan.
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If the U.S. cut aid,
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would other countries
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step up? Well, there
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is one key friend,
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Saudi Arabia, and its
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rulers have made clear
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that they will not
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accept this plan.
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So in the end,
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that could be what
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stops it. And Peers-Jeneraf,
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in Aman, thank you. Thank you.
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Signing the order for the tariffs
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last night, Trump emphasized the sweeping
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nature of his new taxes on
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imports. It's 25% without exceptions or
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exemptions, and that's all countries, no
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matter where it comes from, all
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countries. NPR White House correspondent Daniel
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Kurt Slavin is here to explain what's
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going on. Good morning, Daniel. Good morning.
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So what are these tariffs and how
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do they compare to what Trump imposed
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in his first term? Well, American importers
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will now be paying a 25% tax
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on steel and aluminum, and that makes
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these tariffs a lot like some you
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might remember him imposing during his first
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term, except this time the aluminum rate
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is higher. It was 10% back then.
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In doing this, the administration has stressed
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they're trying to use these tariffs to
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stick it to China, which is the
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world's biggest steel exporter exporter. Now, the
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US doesn't actually get much steel or
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aluminum directly from China, but... The White
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House argues that Chinese steel makes it
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into the U.S. by being sold through
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other countries. So you point out that
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China doesn't export much steel or aluminum
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to the U.S. What countries do export
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all that steel and aluminum? Well, the
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U.S. gets by far the most of
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its aluminum imports from Canada, according to
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data compiled by Reuters. And on steel,
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Canada is also first. And there are
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other allies on that list, like Mexico
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and South Korea. You might notice that
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in all those countries I mentioned, Canada
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and Mexico feature prominently. Trump had recently
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threatened tariffs on them and then paused
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them at the last minute, while with
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this new announcement, he's putting tariffs on
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those two countries anyway. Just not on
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all of their goods. And that gets
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to one really important thing about these
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tariffs. There are no exceptions to these,
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and that's different from Trump's tariffs last
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time around. It's also different from how
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Biden treated tariffs. Both of them had
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carve-outs on tariffs for some allies, but
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not now. I think the big question
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for so many Americans are what are
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these tariffs going to mean for the
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U.S. economy and for them? Well, in
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the near term, this should be good
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for American steel and aluminum companies because
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tariffs raise the price of steel and
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aluminum, and they protect against some
8:32
foreign competition. And markets seem to
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think so yesterday. Shares of Alcoa,
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an American aluminum company, and U.S.
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steel were both up. But that
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doesn't mean this is great for
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the rest of the economy. I
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talked to Gary Huffbower, a senior
8:47
fellow at the Peterson Institute for
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International Economics. He told me that
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industries that use those metals like
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aircraft and auto manufacturing, also bridge
8:56
construction, those could lose jobs. You
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lose jobs in the manufacturing sector
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when you put together the higher
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costs of input and the retaliation,
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which is sure to come like night follows
9:08
day. He's saying there that not only would
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prices be higher for steel and aluminum,
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but other countries are likely to hit
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back and tariff American exports, which will
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hurt these companies. Now the president has
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talked about imposing still more tariffs this
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week. What does he say? Well, it's
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unclear, but he's dribbled out a bit
9:24
of information. He has said he'll be
9:26
announcing what he calls reciprocal tariffs. The
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idea there seems to be that whatever
9:30
tariff a foreign country has put on
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a US good, he wants to impose
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it back in return. He also said
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yesterday that he'll be considering tariffs on
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cars, pharmaceuticals, semiconductors, but it was
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unclear whether those are separate from
9:43
the reciprocal tariffs. And this is
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one constant feature of how Trump
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does tariff policy. There's often not
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an orderly rollout. We really just
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don't know what's coming until he
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says it. I'm Pierre as Daniel
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Kurzleven. Thank you for your reporting. President
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Trump's Justice Department is ordering prosecutors
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to drop the case against the
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Democratic mayor of the nation's largest
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city. New York City Mayor Eric
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Adams was indicted last year on corruption
10:17
charges with a trial scheduled for April.
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He's also for re-election this year. Adams
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has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing. Join me
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now with the latest is Bridget Bergen.
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She's a senior politics reporter at member
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station WNYC in New York. Good morning,
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Bridget. Good morning. Okay, so for those
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who haven't been following this closely, just
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lay out the charges the mayor was
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facing. Yeah, he was charged in
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September in a five-count criminal indictment.
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Prosecutors allege that Adams accepted about
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$100,000 in luxury travel perks, as
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well as illegal foreign campaign contributions
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from people connected to the Turkish
10:51
government in exchange for official acts
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from City Hall. Adams, as you
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said, has pleaded not guilty to
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those charges and has been really
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pretty vocal about calling the case
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politically motivated without really any evidence.
11:04
He says it was payback for
11:06
speaking out against the Biden administration's
11:08
handling of the migrant crisis. Since
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President Trump's election, he's been very
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careful not to criticize him. He
11:15
visited him at Marilago, attended the
11:17
inauguration. Adams even held a meeting
11:19
yesterday with heads of city agencies,
11:21
according to sources at the meeting
11:23
who spoke on condition of anonymity
11:25
because they were not authorized to
11:27
speak on behalf of the administration.
11:29
They were also told not to
11:31
publicly criticize President Trump. So why
11:33
does the Justice Department say this
11:35
case should be dropped? So they
11:37
sent a memo to federal prosecutors
11:39
outlining two very specific reasons. First,
11:42
it says the charges were filed
11:44
too close to the mayor's re-election.
11:46
And the second reason relates to
11:49
the Trump administration's ongoing immigration enforcement
11:51
actions. The memo states that the
11:53
pending prosecution has, quote, unduly restricted
11:56
the mayor's ability to devote his
11:58
full attention to a legal... immigration
12:00
and really his ability to support the
12:02
Trump administration's efforts. The memo also seeks
12:05
to have the mayor's security clearance restored
12:07
and says that no further steps should
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be taken as it relates to the
12:11
investigation, at least for now. And what
12:13
is the mayor saying? So there was
12:15
a post on the social media platform
12:17
X last night. It was from a
12:20
Fox News reporter who actually caught up
12:22
with the mayor who was out at
12:24
a restaurant. Adams has said... You know,
12:26
you're speaking with his attorneys to looking
12:28
at what's happening. Normally on Tuesdays, he
12:30
holds a weekly off-topic press conference, but
12:33
instead he's scheduled to deliver an address
12:35
today at noon that's going to stream
12:37
online. So at this point, there's not
12:39
going to be any chance for reporters
12:41
to really ask him about any questions
12:43
about whatever it is he announces. So
12:46
at this point, does this all mean
12:48
that Adams legal troubles are over? Well,
12:50
not quite yet. Now the acting U.S.
12:52
attorney of the Southern District will need
12:54
to decide whether to follow the direction
12:56
in that memo, and the judge overseeing
12:58
the case would need to decide on
13:00
whether to sign off on dropping the
13:02
charges. Those actions could set off another
13:04
set of repercussions in this office that's
13:06
really known for taking on these high-profile
13:08
corruption cases. We haven't heard from the
13:10
Southern District yet. It's also worth noting
13:12
that the memo explicitly says that the
13:14
charges will be dropped without prejudice,
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which means they could potentially
13:19
be brought again. The memo
13:21
states the case should be
13:23
reviewed after the general election
13:25
in November. That's WNYC senior
13:27
politics reporter Bridget Bergen.
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Thank you Bridget. Thank
13:32
you. And that's the
13:34
first for Tuesday, February 11th.
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