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The US and its allies. Make some moves.
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UK
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warned of a Russian plot to install a puppet
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leader of Ukraine. The US considers
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reinforcing troops in countries near
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Ukraine. How close is Russia to launching
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threatened Invasion? I'm
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Steve inskeep with Rachel Martin man. This
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is up first from NPR. News of
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coronavirus are dropping in many places. We
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can see that new normal where
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people can not feel
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that threat being a public
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place. Why do scientists avoid saying
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we're near the end of the pandemic. Also,
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Sarah Palin is in court. Today, the former
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vice presidential candidate. Sue. The New York
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Times for a falsehood that it published
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you.com The
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United States is preparing for Russia's
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possible invasion of you.
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More. Than one hundred thousand Russian troops have
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taken positions to the South East
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and north of Ukraine's capital for
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the record, Russia denies any plans
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to invade but President Vladimir Putin
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has. Been making demands of the West now
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the U.S. state department is reducing staff
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levels at the embassy in Ukraine's capital,
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the U.S. is also sending lethal aid
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Ukrainian military forces Ukraine.
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Is not a formal US ally, but several neighboring
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nations are part of the US led NATO
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alliance and NPR has confirmed
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that. President Biden is considering sending
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additional U.S. troops to those countries.
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And. Let's pick up the discussion right there with NPRC
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National Security correspondent Greg My
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regret Good Morning Good Morning Steve How
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Big Would This Us deployment Be
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If It Happened Us? Officials
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are saying Biden is considering a plan to
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send up to five thousand troops
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to the NATO countries in eastern Europe, now
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a few important caveats here are
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no final. Decision has been made this
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a plan that emerged as Biden was
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at Camp David this weekend and met with his national
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security team, US already
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has tens of thousands. Of troops in
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western Europe and so some of these
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could be move further east of Poland
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and Romania er seems as though the most likely
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options, possibly others as well
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I'm. Other NATO countries could confirm
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tribute troops, also though not clear
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which ones I'm just thinking this through
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that are relatively small number of troops
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compared to Russia's more than one hundred. Thousand there's
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thousand there's a signal, I guess a signal not
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to mess around with NATO countries, nato signal of
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US and Western resolved, but
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could any of them become directly involved? In,
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Ukraine as well as of
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right now no Biden has ruled
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this out at there's no indication that the
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US or NATO has changed
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this position is prepared to send.
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troops into Ukraine if
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Russia invades Ukraine would be largely
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on its own against this much stronger
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Russian military but if the
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US and NATO do move troops into,
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eastern Europe. This would
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be a signal as you say this would be say direct
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challenge to Russian leader Vladimir Putin
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is demanding that NATO remove the relatively
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small number of troops that. are already there there's
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also talk that additional there us
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and nato troops could be said after nato first wave
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is
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Now. The US and his allies seem to be calling
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out Russian plans in recent days, the U.
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S. the other day warned of some kind of false
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flag operation that would give. Russia an
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excuse to invade, and then over
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the weekend the UK specified
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something that Russia might wanna do what
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was. Right, Brit.
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Says. That Russia is planning to oust
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the Ukrainian government of President
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Volodymyr of the lynskey and
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replace it with the current or former
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Ukrainian leaders who would be friendly
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to Russia now. Britain didn't say how
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Russia my do this didn't provide any
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details or evidence, still it's
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is quite significant that Britain I went
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to public with this sensitive information
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and apparently in. In an attempt to head off
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any such Russian moose if they are indeed
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in the work in. a recent days
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were hearing more about russian troop movements
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russian forces in belo ruth
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a friendly country or but
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these russian troops would be in position
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they're in belo ruse odd
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if they were to go into ukraine they would be less
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than a hundred miles from the capital kiev
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Or what does this mean for the diplomatic efforts?
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Well. "They're still underway, but the
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this weekend seem to show our developments
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moving in the opposite direction", Secretary
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of State said, the Anthony Blinken
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said there still are focusing on diplomacy
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and. Could have more talks but
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we haven't seen any breakthroughs his past two
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weeks when the have been intensive talks broke.
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my revenge for the update really appreciate Then.
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The state of the pandemic this week
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depends on where you are.
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New. Cases of the current A virus are dropping
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off sharply in areas of the Northeast and
5:21
Midwest, even so many places in
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the cells, and the West continued
5:25
to see record numbers. Of new infections and
5:28
more than one hundred and fifty thousand people
5:30
are hospitalized.
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"Across the country, so where do we stand and
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years else and Abra joins as many Mondays
5:35
and is here once again, Alice in the morning, good
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morning, see, okay, so does seem
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that lots of the country is passed the Omagh
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crime pick"
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That's right looking at the map of Washington
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DC and New York have about half as
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many cases compared to their P. Keep
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it or else and dropping and parts. The West
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Florida and Texas has started to see a decline
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in new and Saxons, but a lot
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of theories are still in the thick of it.
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The that utah or? Again, as
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well as Alabama Tennessee, I
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said to an emergency medicine doctor, Just
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Pot Hos at U. W. Health, that's
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in Madison, Wisconsin, where they are
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still struggling to admit all the
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patients who need a bad.
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Right? Now it's is it's as bad as it's ever
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been, we're are still seen a ton of competitions
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and we're still on the situation where every day we're postponing
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nino elective surgery. Producers are also
6:22
postponing, are we call Tier Three
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and Three or Four surgical cases, which are
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cases that you know you can postpone
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for a week or two, but not really. Much
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longer what we're doing all that.
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"We still can't make everyone said"
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The smaller hospitals in the region
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transfer patients into his half that of, but
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his as that I haven't been able to take them are, and this
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comes at a time when nationwide
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deaths from the virus or up to where nearly
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two thousand deaths today.
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But the numbers of new cases, as you mentioned,
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are down in many places, so
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are we at the turning point or beyond?
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You know, some models suggest the worst
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is over close to over predicting
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deaths will begin to decline soon
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in the coming weeks and cases will continue
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to come down here is Ali, my dad
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of the Institute for Health, metrics and Evaluation.
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What? "We are seeing right now in many
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states, it's coming down
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as fast as it went up and some
7:18
March April, the should be in a very good
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position our infections would" Be very
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low, I am willing to bet
7:24
right now I'm not into betting the as
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a scientist, but the spring
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the brakes what happens and we should
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see it for a. While that we are in a very good
7:33
position. Is so you
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can hear some optimism there?
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"We should feel for a while they were have a good position",
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he says, meaning that this could get worse again.
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You. Know, none of the exercise I've been talking to regularly
7:45
throughout this pandemic is willing to emphatically
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say, "Hey, this is over, I mean, sciences
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know the virus will continue to mutate"
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But there is a consensus that we're
7:55
in a much better situation given so many people
7:57
have been infected and seventy people have been
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vaccinated. Each day. "We are more
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protected", I spoke to Michael Osterholm
8:04
at the University of Minnesota, who says we're
8:06
likely headed into a better day soon.
8:08
Food everyday person is very
8:11
hopeful that we can see that
8:13
new normal where people can
8:15
not feel at threat
8:18
been in a public place but,
8:20
I worry that we could see
8:22
another variant. that could put us
8:24
back into the same kind of position that we saw
8:27
that home across The good news is that.
8:29
The makers continue to work on vaccines
8:31
the country.
8:31
variants are offer broader protection and
8:33
there are a lot more therapies to treat
8:36
covert now, including the new anti viral
8:38
medications, said the idea is
8:40
that future waves said.
8:42
More manageable and years, Allison Aubrey
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is right around two years of pandemic reporting,
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Allison, thanks for your endurance. Thank
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you feel.
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Sarah Palin gets her chance in court
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starting today, the former.
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Then. Presidential candidate filed a defamation
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suit against the New York Times five
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years ago, The Times put to false statements
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into an article about the Republican politicians
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the paper soon made A. Correction, but pale
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and suit could erode the broad protections
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against libel suits that the news media have been.
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Wait for decades and your media corresponded
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David for conflict is followed, the case David Cameron.
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Managed to you, what is this case about?
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Well. This case involves an editorial
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written by The New York Times in which it
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explicit linked a graphic that
9:29
was presented an appeal to conservative voters
9:32
sent out by Sarah Palin's political. Action
9:34
committees to the shooting of Gabby
9:36
Giffords some years earlier,
9:38
which gravely wounded her and wounded
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a dozen others, no evidence was found,
9:43
axes the shooter have are seen as messages. From
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pailin and the editorial, some mischaracterized
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the graphic with true cross hairs and congressional
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districts, the Times wrongly indicated symbolically
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targeted the actual members of Congress,
9:54
they did this an editorial. Six years after
9:56
the shooting hours after a Republican
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congressmen was shot. A. Baseball game and
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these errors and it's important to note this were inserted
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into the editorial by James, bet it at
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that time the Times is top a pain editor
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kids was. seeking to make a larger point about
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gun violence and heated rhetoric, but in this
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case made a false point, so
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how has the paper explain the way
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that would have happened?
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So. The Times made corrections
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publicly within hours of posting
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in the than publishing the editorial in
10:25
some of the exchanges that surfaced
10:28
is part of the evidence in this
10:30
case, teams Bennett. showed contrition
10:33
in private notes to his colleagues when
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he registered what happens", David mccraw
10:37
he said, Deputy General Counsel to New York Times,
10:39
said: "Look, this was an honest mistake it. Was
10:41
not an exhibit of actual malice,
10:43
he said, that to the Washington Post a couple years
10:45
ago and, seen as you know, actual
10:48
malice, that's the legal standard that payments
10:50
attorneys. Will have to meet that is that the
10:52
New York Times even knew what they were saying was wrong
10:54
or so reckless disregard for
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the facts given the ways in which are.
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Laws protect free speech, that's a pretty
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hard standard for any former public official,
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the me.
11:03
I guess we should noted that the actual
11:05
malice standard grew out of a previous case
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decades ago, involving the New York Times,
11:10
which has been involved in libel lawsuit for force
11:12
but prevails, so why do people think
11:14
that Palin has a chance here?
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Well. It could be hard for to show actual harm
11:18
done that has she hasn't lost a job that we know
11:20
of or something like that, the strongest some and
11:23
is that A. Had been widely known for years, no
11:25
evidence had surface to show connection
11:27
between the shooting in Arizona
11:29
and with humans are mailings, and at the Times
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reported that lack of. Connection to Bennett.
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Added. Wrong material, as I said into the draft,
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it was rushed out on deadline, is Bennett
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later acknowledged sense: "Let's be clear the
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fact that it's part of the opinion section doesn't" Get the
11:44
times off the hook because the editorial is
11:46
purportedly grounded in fact, so what
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happens is a time should lose.
11:50
We'll look at jury verdict could reach the tens
11:52
of millions are theoretically the hundreds of millions
11:54
of dollars, according to media lawyers at
11:57
Talk to Supplement Attorney Want to introduce
11:59
evidence about. Their. journalistic lapses by
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Bennett while he was at the time she left in twenty
12:03
after other controversies, The Times has heath:
12:06
"We got a focus on the specific incident involving
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pm When it's not about ethics or practices,
12:10
but the last year people tell me anything
12:13
can happen if it goes in front of a jury's and
12:15
plans attorney let's be clear of. Ask the
12:17
court to send the media a message and
12:19
pure media corresponded Davis Hortons like David
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Thanks events.
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