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Markos Matsunaga's dismembered body was

1:01

found scattered among fields and

1:03

woodlands within just a couple

1:05

of weeks of him signing

1:07

his billion dollar deal. So

1:09

who could be responsible? Had

1:11

he been kidnapped and was

1:13

he being held for ransom?

1:15

Or was it his supposedly

1:17

gold-digging wife that his friends

1:19

had never liked anywhere? Today

1:21

we're going to be discussing

1:24

the case of the billionaires

1:26

body found in three suitcases.

1:28

Okay. Quickly, before

1:30

we get into it, I do just

1:32

want to give my usual disclaimer that

1:35

I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone

1:37

that I talk about in this video.

1:39

This video is for educational purposes and

1:41

everything that I'm about to say is

1:44

just information that I have found on

1:46

the internet and I'm compiling on video.

1:48

There's just a couple of content warnings

1:50

for this case. Today we're going to

1:53

be discussing themes of domestic violence and

1:55

abusive relationships. So if any of that

1:57

is something that you don't want to

1:59

hear about right now, I completely yourself.

2:02

some of the point with a different

2:04

case but for now look after yourself

2:06

and with all that being said let's

2:09

get into the case. So today's case

2:11

takes place in Brazil in 2013 and

2:13

correct me if I'm wrong but I

2:15

think this could be our first ever

2:18

Brazilian case. And that is where 48

2:20

year old Marcos Matsunaga lived with his

2:22

wife Eliza who was 38 at the

2:24

time. So there was a decade between

2:27

them and they seemed very happy to

2:29

get that. They were super super rich.

2:31

Marcos was a multi-millionaire CEO who was

2:33

about to become a billionaire CEO. Basically

2:36

he owned this food company named Yoki.

2:38

And this company, it was like a

2:40

pantry foods kind of company in like

2:43

packet foods, you know like... popcans and

2:45

crisps and stuff like that. It was

2:47

like a pantry food company called Yoki

2:49

that had been passed down his family

2:52

for a couple of generations now. I

2:54

believe his grandfather started it and then

2:56

passed it on to his son who

2:58

passed it on to his son Marcos.

3:01

So he's like the heir of this

3:03

very successful company. He later on in

3:05

his life sold the company for a

3:07

billion dollars which would have made him

3:10

a billionaire but he never... actually managed

3:12

to see that billion. He met his

3:14

wife Eliza a little bit later on

3:17

in life because he actually had another

3:19

wife before her. He'd actually left his

3:21

ex-wife for Eliza. He'd been cheating on

3:23

his ex-wife with Eliza. He had been

3:26

cheating on his ex-wife for quite sometime

3:28

before he'd even met Eliza though. It

3:30

wasn't like Eliza came along and broke

3:32

up the family. Marcos had already been

3:35

unfaithful to his ex-wife with a number

3:37

of women. Eliza was just one of

3:39

those women and he happened to fall

3:41

for her and before long he decided

3:44

that he wanted to divorce his ex-wife

3:46

and marry Eliza. I'm getting a little

3:48

bit ahead of it there. Let's talk

3:51

about where they actually met because Marcos

3:53

did his cheating in a rather interesting

3:55

way because he didn't get a lot

3:57

of attention from women. His friend said

4:00

that he was not popular with the

4:02

ladies, but he did have a lot

4:04

of urges, I guess he really wanted

4:06

to cheat on his wife. So in

4:09

order to do that he would go

4:11

online, he would go on like escorting

4:13

services and literally hire women to cheat

4:15

on his wife with. And that is

4:18

where he met Eliza. Eliza was an

4:20

escort on one of these websites. It

4:22

was called M-class. She put herself on

4:25

there and that's how the two of

4:27

them met. At first it was just

4:29

going to be like a couple of

4:31

meetings. I don't know, he solicited different

4:34

women all the time so it was

4:36

just going to be like a casual

4:38

thing, but then he realized he really

4:40

liked Eliza and wanted something more with

4:43

her. And like I said, he ended

4:45

up leaving his ex-wife for her and

4:47

he married Eliza. practically straight away. So

4:49

who was Eliza Matsunaga? She came from

4:52

a very troubled background. Her family were

4:54

in severe poverty and she suffered a

4:56

lot of sexual abuse at the hands

4:58

of her stepfather growing up. So a

5:01

very very rough childhood. And she had

5:03

some like really mad awful shit happen

5:05

to her. Like really random stuff would

5:08

happen to her quite a lot. So

5:10

one time she was chased home by

5:12

a group of boys. Another time she

5:14

was... kidnapped by some men like just

5:17

really awful yet quite random shit just

5:19

kept happening to her stuff that you

5:21

can't predict or like prevent you know

5:23

like she just got in some really

5:26

really bad situations because honestly the place

5:28

that she lived was quite unsafe it

5:30

was like this kind of stuff was

5:32

happening to a lot of young women

5:35

where she lived as she grew up

5:37

and became a woman she managed to

5:39

escape both the dangerous place that she

5:42

lived and also her abusive household she

5:44

moved on with her life grew into

5:46

a wonderful young woman and she started

5:48

studying to be a nurse caring, nurturing,

5:51

loving, generous. person and so it only

5:53

made sense to her that when it

5:55

came to like choosing a career she

5:57

wanted a career in caring for people

6:00

and that's when she thought to be

6:02

a nurse. But it was that kind

6:04

nurturing, loving part of her personality that

6:06

actually turned out to be her downfall

6:09

within this job because Eliza would find

6:11

herself getting almost too attached to her

6:13

patience to the point where like if

6:16

they took a term for the worse

6:18

or God forbid died. She would feel

6:20

that grief and that loss and that

6:22

pain as much as if it was

6:25

a member of her own family. This

6:27

job was hardly sustainable for her. She

6:29

could not... She couldn't deal with the

6:31

emotional side of it. She actually always

6:34

remembered the first time one of her

6:36

patients died and she said that that

6:38

was like a life-changing brain-altering moment for

6:40

her. It was completely earth-shattering. Yeah, she

6:43

quickly realized that she couldn't do this

6:45

forever. She couldn't be a nurse forever

6:47

and she needed to pick a new

6:50

career path. And that was when she

6:52

decided she liked the sound of law.

6:54

like being a lawyer. So she got

6:56

into law school, but in order to

6:59

support herself and pay for her tuition,

7:01

she started doing this escorting service on

7:03

the side. She did like anywhere from

7:05

full prostitution to kind of sugar baby

7:08

deals where she would go out on

7:10

dates with men. Oftentimes it was a

7:12

mixture of the two. They would take

7:14

her out on a date and then

7:17

they would go home and have sex.

7:19

That was kind of... the usual package

7:21

I guess and yeah that's where she

7:24

met multi-millionaire going on billionaire CEO Marcos

7:26

Matsanaga like we said in the beginning

7:28

Marcos inherited this company from his father

7:30

and him from his father so he

7:33

came from money his family had always

7:35

been very well off very wealthy he'd

7:37

traveled all his life he had he'd

7:39

had the best of everything all his

7:42

life. Proper silver spoon malarkey, you know?

7:44

The Matsunaga family was one of the

7:46

richest families in Brazil at that time

7:48

and the Yoki food company was like

7:51

one of the leading pantry food, pantry

7:53

food companies, I guess. Whatever the genre

7:55

of whatever it was, they dominated the

7:58

market. I know that for sure. And

8:00

a lot of this progress within the

8:02

company had happened while Marcos was in

8:04

charge. He had managed to grow this

8:07

company. way past whatever his father had

8:09

managed and his father had managed. It

8:11

was Marcos that kind of turned Yoki

8:13

into a household name. It was him

8:16

that got it in all these different

8:18

supermarkets up and down the country. Like

8:20

it was him and his graft and

8:22

his work that had really helped to

8:25

expand this company. So yeah, Marcos was

8:27

very successful, very rich, very accomplished, but

8:29

as I said, the only thing that

8:32

was kind of missing was... away with

8:34

the lady so he just didn't have

8:36

that no matter how much money and

8:38

success he had women were not very

8:41

interested in Marcos I don't know what

8:43

it was some people have said he's

8:45

not very conventionally attractive I don't really

8:47

want to comment on people's looks when

8:50

it's not it's not related to the

8:52

case very well but I mean his

8:54

friends kind of said I don't know

8:56

a lot of the attractive women that

8:59

he would get involved with they were

9:01

very suspicious about because they were well

9:03

out of his league and the only

9:06

way that he could have really pulled

9:08

a lot of them was for money.

9:10

Or a really good personality, but his

9:12

friends were suspicious that a lot of

9:15

the time it was his money and

9:17

that these women didn't like him for

9:19

who he was. But back in the

9:21

day before he'd even managed to get

9:24

this company and the wealth that he

9:26

had, back when he only had like

9:28

his family wealth, he was really struggling

9:30

to get a girl and then all

9:33

of a sudden his ex-wife came into

9:35

his life and... Honestly, this sounds a

9:37

bit bad, but I think he married

9:40

her just out of desperation. This was

9:42

the first woman that had ever shown

9:44

like a serious interest in him and...

9:46

So I think he was just like,

9:49

okay, yeah, well, I'll marry this one.

9:51

He very quickly realized once he got

9:53

into this marriage that he wasn't happy.

9:55

I think he, yeah, he very quickly

9:58

realized that he'd rushed in and this

10:00

wasn't the right decision. But rather than

10:02

getting a divorce and like going out

10:04

there and finding someone that's actually right

10:07

for him, Marcos decided to just start,

10:09

just start cheating. just start cheating on

10:11

his wife hiring escorts. And that is

10:14

where Marcos met the woman that would

10:16

eventually turn his head, Eliza. So he

10:18

meets Eliza through the escorting service and

10:20

of course he doesn't want to tell

10:23

his family and friends that that he

10:25

like met her because he was paying

10:27

to have sex with her. He wanted

10:29

to make them think that they'd like

10:32

met naturally like a coffee shop or

10:34

something. So actually he never told anyone

10:36

how he and Eliza met. He just

10:38

kind of started introducing everyone to... his

10:41

new girlfriend Eliza and just kind of

10:43

hoped that no one was going to

10:45

ask any questions and they didn't to

10:47

be fair but eventually they did all

10:50

find out where he where they'd met

10:52

but yeah when Marcos first introduced all

10:54

his friends to Eliza they they were

10:57

suspicious she was a very beautiful woman

10:59

a lot younger than him a decade

11:01

younger than him she was very conventionally

11:03

attractive this woman was like the the

11:06

stereotype that you have in your head

11:08

of like a gold digger you know

11:10

that younger woman who's like trying to

11:12

make it on her own doesn't have

11:15

a lot of money to support herself

11:17

goes for the kind of Uglier, rich,

11:19

older man, you know, and his friends

11:21

saw this dynamic and they were like,

11:24

has he gone mad? Like, does he

11:26

not see what's happening here? Honestly, I

11:28

think Marcos was a little bit insecure

11:31

of this. I think he didn't want

11:33

to believe it, but I think there

11:35

was a part in the back of

11:37

his head that was kind of telling

11:40

him that his friends were right. And

11:42

I think that's why he married Eliza

11:44

so quickly. He put a ring on

11:46

that. fast. I don't think he wanted

11:49

to risk her leaving him and so

11:51

like he moved her into to live

11:53

with him very quickly before they were

11:55

even married. He moved her into this

11:58

massive mansion where he just had so

12:00

much stuff, right? This guy was obsessed

12:02

with wine and through his marriage with

12:05

Eliza, he got her into wine as

12:07

well. She became a... Oh, what's the

12:09

word where they study wine? An on-onkeologists?

12:11

That's definitely not the word, now I'm

12:14

embarrassed. But she was a wineologist, you

12:16

know? You know the proper word? Word?

12:18

Anyway, the two of them really, really

12:20

liked wine. They were really into it,

12:23

so much so that Marcos had like

12:25

massive cellars built under their house that

12:27

has... two million dollars worth of wine.

12:29

How are you ever going to drink

12:32

that much is the question on my

12:34

mind. He had another room, a secret

12:36

room by the way, a hidden one

12:39

that was like disguised in the wall,

12:41

that was just full of guns and

12:43

ammo, like half a million dollars worth

12:45

of guns and hammer. His house was

12:48

just full of... excess and and just

12:50

some really eccentric things some really expensive

12:52

art pieces you can imagine the kind

12:54

of stuff that this guy was buying

12:57

he was He was excessive. But the

12:59

two of them had quite a nice

13:01

married life, it seems. They went traveling

13:03

everywhere together. They saw the world. They

13:06

experienced all kinds of cultures. They enjoyed

13:08

the finer things in life. Good food,

13:10

good wine. Shortly after getting married, the

13:13

two of them decided that they wanted

13:15

a baby together. And so Eliza came

13:17

off of her contraception and they thought

13:19

it was going to be as easy

13:22

as that, you know, just... just start

13:24

doing it without the pill and you'll

13:26

catch but it's not that easy it's

13:28

really not that easy for a lot

13:31

of women and Elise was one of

13:33

those no matter how hard they tried

13:35

she couldn't catch pregnant and so thank

13:37

God they had all that money they

13:40

were able to pay to go through

13:42

several lots of IVF treatment like lots

13:44

and lots to make this happen and

13:47

finally Elise got pregnant. The two of

13:49

them welcomed a beautiful baby daughter together

13:51

and like I said they... They seemed

13:53

very very very happy. After a while,

13:56

Marcus's friends kind of admitted that they

13:58

were proven wrong. They thought wrong about

14:00

this girl. At first they thought she

14:02

was just a gold digger using him

14:05

for his money. But no, the longer

14:07

that they were together, they were married,

14:09

they had a daughter together. they seem

14:11

to really get on they had a

14:14

lot in common and and that's true

14:16

they shared a lot of the same

14:18

hobbies like they enjoyed shooting and and

14:21

hunting animals which is a questionable one

14:23

but yeah they used to go out

14:25

and like shoot wild boar and stuff

14:27

together and and skin them and whatever

14:30

they also had a pet snake and

14:32

this this was kind of a common

14:34

theme with all these like more quirky

14:36

things that they did together as a

14:39

couple that like Marcos would suggest it

14:41

to to Eliza and she would say

14:43

yes and then he would be really

14:45

surprised like oh my god I can't

14:48

believe I've met a woman that wants

14:50

to go hunting with me I can't

14:52

believe I've met a woman that lets

14:55

me have a pet snake in the

14:57

house and I think I don't know,

14:59

I just think this is the first

15:01

time that Marcos had found a woman

15:04

who appreciated him for his little quirks

15:06

as well. Like I genuinely do think

15:08

this was a nice relationship, at least

15:10

in the beginning, at least at this

15:13

point. But then in late May of

15:15

2012, this billionaire pantry food Taekoon, Marcos

15:17

Matsunaga, disappears. He goes missing. And all

15:19

of this happened right as he was

15:22

closing that billion dollar deal to sell

15:24

yucky food company. So police's immediate theory,

15:26

once he is reported missing by his

15:29

wife, Eliza, their immediate theory is that

15:31

this is probably a kidnapping. It's probably

15:33

a random situation because... Everyone who has

15:35

anyone kind of knew that this family

15:38

was worth a lot of money ever

15:40

knew that his family was one of

15:42

the richest in the whole country and

15:44

that they were closing this really big

15:47

deal There's a lot of people that

15:49

right now would have wanted to harm

15:51

him or get him out of the

15:53

way or I don't know, something. There's

15:56

a lot of people that would have

15:58

wanted to intercept that deal somehow. So

16:00

they start asking around everyone in Marcos'

16:03

life, you know, asking if he's got

16:05

any enemies or any, like, rivals, anyone

16:07

that might want to tech him out,

16:09

anyone that might want anything. And no

16:12

one could really think of anything. Obviously,

16:14

apart from this billion-dollar deal, which, you

16:16

know, could very well be it. There

16:18

was no like active enemies that he

16:21

always had like... fights with no one.

16:23

There was no one in particular that

16:25

anyone could name anywhere. And it wasn't

16:27

like this business deal was going sour

16:30

either. So it's not like the deal

16:32

itself could have led to this. It

16:34

wasn't like the other people in the

16:36

deal were like getting shafted by him

16:39

or anything like that. Like this deal

16:41

seemed to be going well. Everything seemed

16:43

to be going well. So police spoke

16:46

with his wife Eliza. They kind of

16:48

wanted to get an idea of what

16:50

his day-to-day life was, what his routine

16:52

was, and what his schedule was like

16:55

on the day that he went missing.

16:57

So Eliza told police that on the

16:59

night that Marcos disappeared. He told her

17:01

that he was going in for a

17:04

meeting with one of the buyers, you

17:06

know, one of the big people that

17:08

was paying a billion dollars for Yoki.

17:10

He said that he was going in

17:13

for a meeting with them for a

17:15

meeting with them that evening. and told

17:17

her not to wait up for him,

17:20

you know, just go to bed, just

17:22

let yourself go to bed. He also

17:24

said that he had a meeting the

17:26

next morning, super early as well, so

17:29

he was like, if it runs on

17:31

that long in the evening, he might

17:33

even just sleep over at the office

17:35

so that he's there for his meeting

17:38

the next day. So, Elise wakes up

17:40

the next day. and Mike was still

17:42

not home. So she's thinking, okay, he's

17:44

just done what he said. He did

17:47

his meeting and then slept over at

17:49

the office, did his other meeting. But

17:51

she'd literally not seen or heard from

17:54

him since then. Since he left the

17:56

house that evening saying that he was

17:58

going to work, she'd not seen or

18:00

heard from him since. And so right

18:03

now, police are so convinced of the

18:05

kidnapping ransom theory because he was even

18:07

at his... place of work. But as

18:09

the days were going on, police were

18:12

waiting for a ransom note any minute,

18:14

but they weren't getting any kind of

18:16

communication from potential abductors. There was no

18:18

ransom note, nothing. Police were trying everything

18:21

they could to try and find Marcos

18:23

themselves, but they were hoping that they

18:25

were going to get some kind of

18:28

communication and then they could negotiate and

18:30

get Marcos back that way. But without

18:32

that, they didn't know how to... find

18:34

him. A couple of days into the

18:37

search, Elise arrives at her mother and

18:39

father-in-law's house. So Marcos's mother and father's

18:41

house. She had something to tell them,

18:43

something that she hadn't actually told the

18:46

police. She told them that Marcos had

18:48

left her, that he had packed a

18:50

bag and voluntarily left, like essentially ran

18:52

away. He walked out. And so they

18:55

asked why, why on earth he would

18:57

do that? And Eliza said that he

18:59

was cheating on her. Again, this was

19:02

something that he had done. multiple times

19:04

in their relationship. He had cheated on

19:06

his wife, Eliza, and for some reason

19:08

she had taken him back. He had

19:11

begged and groveled the first time that

19:13

he was caught cheating on someone and

19:15

Eliza took him back because she actually

19:17

found out around the same time that

19:20

she found out that she was pregnant

19:22

with their daughter as well. And like

19:24

I said, it was such a hassle

19:26

to even get pregnant in the first

19:29

place. They had tried so many rounds

19:31

of IVIF. And now they were finally

19:33

pregnant. and she finds out that her

19:36

husband's been cheating on her. She was

19:38

of course heartbroken, she really really was,

19:40

she wanted to leave him. In fact,

19:42

that was her initial plan, and then

19:45

she found out she was pregnant, and

19:47

then that was when she decided to

19:49

forgive him, try and put it behind

19:51

them. but it was clear that he

19:54

hadn't put it behind him and it

19:56

seemed that he had put it behind

19:58

him for a while for the first

20:00

two years of their daughter's life. He

20:03

seemed to be loyal again, he seemed

20:05

to be faithful, he seemed to have

20:07

like... given up his cheating ways, but

20:10

in the months leading up to his

20:12

disappearance, Eliza said that those thoughts, that

20:14

paranoia started to creep back in. She

20:16

was suspicious that he might be cheating

20:19

again. Eliza went out of town for

20:21

about a week in May. She was

20:23

going to visit her grandmother who was

20:25

pretty sick. So she was going back

20:28

home to see some family and she

20:30

thought, okay, now is the perfect time.

20:32

if she was going to catch him

20:34

out cheating, he was of course going

20:37

to be cheating while she was out

20:39

of town. So Eliza decides to hire

20:41

a private investigator to follow her husband

20:44

around while she's not there and note

20:46

down everything he does, videotape, everything he

20:48

does, and boy did that private investigator

20:50

find so much on this man. Every

20:53

single night that Eliza was out of

20:55

the house. he was out cheating on

20:57

it. And I think it was all

20:59

with the same woman. It was, again,

21:02

an escort called Natalia that he'd found

21:04

on that same website that he'd found

21:06

Eliza. He had been meeting up with

21:08

her. He'd brought her out to where

21:11

he lived. They were meeting up every

21:13

single day. He was taking her out

21:15

for meals. In fact, the exact same

21:18

restaurants that he would go to with

21:20

Eliza, where they knew the owners. They

21:22

would sit on the counter in front

21:24

of the chefs. And he was doing

21:27

all of this, like he was just

21:29

so blatantly disrespectful throughout all this, going

21:31

to places where they were regulars, and

21:33

all those staff seeing and bringing in

21:36

the other woman, like, that's crazy, that's

21:38

like the cherry on top of all

21:40

this shit. So yeah, Elise, how is

21:42

this private investigator for while she's away,

21:45

and he collects all this evidence? He

21:47

has videos of markers with this woman,

21:49

he has like... like journals of times

21:52

of where they went, what they did

21:54

together. And now that he's gone missing,

21:56

Elise went to his parents and she

21:58

showed them these videos of Marcos with

22:01

another woman and she said right before.

22:03

went missing she had confronted him with

22:05

these videos and said look I know

22:07

you're cheating on me I know you're

22:10

lying to me I know you're being

22:12

unfaithful and this time he didn't try

22:14

to beg for her back he didn't

22:16

grovel like he did the first time

22:19

he just packed a bag and left

22:21

and walked out on her so Eliza

22:23

is saying that Marcos isn't missing he

22:26

he's left off his own accord And

22:28

his parents devastated for her. They really

22:30

took her side because his mother was

22:32

saying, I didn't raise him to be

22:35

this way. She felt so bad for

22:37

Eliza and for their granddaughter, Eliza's child,

22:39

they were like, look, anything you need,

22:41

if you're gonna leave him, anything you

22:44

need, money-wise, childcare-wise, like, they were gonna

22:46

look after her. They were gonna make

22:48

sure that she was okay. after their

22:50

son had just left her, abandoned her

22:53

and their baby. So this information was

22:55

given to the police eventually that he

22:57

had just walked out and they believed

22:59

it. They kind of started to drop

23:02

the kidnapping and ransom theory since they

23:04

hadn't got a ransom note or anything

23:06

of the sort. And within a day

23:09

or two of them like dropping that

23:11

theory, Marcos' brother received an email from

23:13

Marcos, supposedly. This email basically said that

23:15

he was okay. Don't worry about him,

23:18

like tell everyone not to worry, tell

23:20

his mom and Eliza that he is

23:22

sorry. And that's it. That's all this

23:24

email said. It didn't say where he

23:27

was, what he was up to, anything

23:29

of the sort, just that he was

23:31

safe and that he was sorry. and

23:33

it's kind of implied to stop looking

23:36

for him. So they thought that this

23:38

was like proof that he was alive

23:40

and proof that he had just run

23:43

away. So as far as police were

23:45

concerned there's nothing really to investigate here

23:47

concerning this email. No real crime has

23:49

been committed as far as they can

23:52

tell. What this looks like is a

23:54

man that had been unfaithful to his

23:56

wife. He is guilty of nothing more

23:58

than being a dickhead and then he

24:01

ran away. There is no missing person,

24:03

there's no one in danger as far

24:05

as police are now concerned with this

24:07

new theory. But less than a week

24:10

later, there was a gruesome discovery about

24:12

30 kilometers away from where Marcos lived,

24:14

his dead body was found. chopped up

24:17

into several pieces. Marcos Matsunaga's dead body

24:19

had been dismembered and scattered throughout fields

24:21

and woodlands. Half of them were packaged

24:23

up in these like blue garbage bags.

24:26

Half of them were literally just limbs

24:28

out in the grass. One of the

24:30

first ones that was found wasn't in

24:32

a bag. It was literally just a

24:35

leg. that was found in the grass.

24:37

There was also one blue bag that

24:39

had his clothes in it and actually

24:41

this was one of the things that

24:44

helped them to identify this dismembered body

24:46

as Marcos Matsunaga because the clothes in

24:48

this bag were all really expensive. There

24:51

were all designer pieces, it was like

24:53

diesel jeans, a polar shirt, like this

24:55

whole outfit cost a lot more money

24:57

than... Most people in that area made

25:00

in a month. So realistically, there's only

25:02

very few people that this body could

25:04

be, and they know that this billionaire

25:06

has just gone missing. So it didn't

25:09

take long for them to identify it.

25:11

Actually, his head was one of the

25:13

last... pieces of his body to be

25:15

recovered and of course once they had

25:18

the head they could identify the dental

25:20

records and they found that this was

25:22

Marcos Matsunaga and when they found his

25:25

head that also offered up his cause

25:27

of death as well so they obviously

25:29

already knew that he'd been murdered because

25:31

Of course, you can't die of natural

25:34

causes and then we found dismembered in

25:36

a field. This was obviously murder, but

25:38

they didn't know how he'd been murdered

25:40

until they found that head. And they

25:43

found one singular gunshot wound going in

25:45

like the top of his head and

25:47

it exited from his jaw. One singular

25:49

gunshot. shot wound was his cause of

25:52

death. When all of these body parts

25:54

were transported to the morgue for a

25:56

bit of an autopsy, it was noted

25:59

that all of the cuts that they'd

26:01

done to like chop his body up,

26:03

they'd been done very strategically. They'd been

26:05

done in the right places. It must

26:08

have been someone that had a good

26:10

understanding of human anatomy and biology that

26:12

had done this because... Honestly, if you

26:14

gave me a body and told me

26:17

to cut it up, I wouldn't know

26:19

where to start. Whereas this person clearly

26:21

did. They knew where major bones were,

26:23

so they knew to avoid them, stuff

26:26

like that. So immediately they're thinking that

26:28

their killer probably has some sort of

26:30

medical knowledge. But really, other than that,

26:33

they have no idea where to start.

26:35

They have no leads, they have no

26:37

suspects. And so one of the first

26:39

things they decide to do is go

26:42

to Marcos's, Marcos's apartment building. How do

26:44

you, how? They go to his apartment

26:46

building anyway and they take all of

26:48

the security camera footage from the day

26:51

that he went missing because the last

26:53

person to have seen him alive was

26:55

Eliza. She said that he went to

26:57

work and just never returned home. So

27:00

they wanted to get the footage of

27:02

him. leaving for work. They wanted to

27:04

see what he was wearing, what he

27:07

looked like on that day, if he

27:09

was acting weirdly, anything like that. So

27:11

they get all this footage and they

27:13

start watching it back and sure enough

27:16

he was wearing that exact same outfit,

27:18

the diesel jeans, the polo shirt, on

27:20

this footage. So... he was killed the

27:22

day that he went missing it seems.

27:25

Well actually maybe I'm skipping ahead a

27:27

little bit there. So this footage was

27:29

from May 19th 2012. It was actually

27:31

the exact day that Elise got back

27:34

from her trip. So she hadn't even

27:36

been to see the private investigator yet.

27:38

I don't think he'd just been like

27:41

texting her and calling her as she'd

27:43

been away. So she just got back

27:45

from visiting family. Marcos went to go

27:47

and pick her up from the airport

27:50

and he brought her and their daughter.

27:52

back to the apartment. They all go

27:54

inside, he's helping her with her suitcase.

27:56

whatever, they go in. At this point,

27:59

Eliza hadn't confronted him about the cheating

28:01

or the PI or anything like that.

28:03

She said that she was just playing

28:05

it cool. She wanted to wait, she

28:08

didn't want to bring it up, like

28:10

just in the lift or in the

28:12

car on the way home. So she

28:15

was going to wait until they got

28:17

home and she was going to have

28:19

a proper discussion with him about it.

28:21

So in this footage, everything is normal.

28:24

Then later on that night, Marcos is

28:26

seen again on that CCTV footage going

28:28

downstairs to go on. there take away

28:30

pizza. So he goes down in the

28:33

lift on his own. Some people have

28:35

said that looking at this footage he

28:37

looks a bit nervous, a bit antsy.

28:39

I don't know. Marcos collects the pizza

28:42

from the delivery guy and he heads

28:44

back up to their apartment and when

28:46

he goes back inside the building he

28:48

has never seen again on this CCTV

28:51

footage. he never leaves the apartment again.

28:53

But the next morning, the CCTV footage

28:55

shows Eliza Matsanaga leaving their apartment with

28:58

three very heavy suitcases that she is

29:00

dragging behind her, dragging into the lift.

29:02

And the next time she is seen

29:04

on the CCTV footage, so she leaves

29:07

the whole apartment building with these suitcases,

29:09

and then later she comes back without

29:11

them. So where was she taking them?

29:13

What was in those suitcases? And if

29:16

it isn't clear as day what has

29:18

happened here, police are immediately sure that

29:20

Eliza Matsunaga must have killed her own

29:22

husband. She was the only other person

29:25

in that apartment with him and then

29:27

all of a sudden she is seemingly

29:29

dragging out. his body? Could it have

29:32

been that she had dismembered his body

29:34

inside their apartment, killed him, dismembered him,

29:36

and then put his body into these

29:38

three suitcases and used them to drag

29:41

him out to those woods where she

29:43

later scattered his body parts? That was

29:45

the only explanation. That was the only

29:47

thing that left that apartment in the

29:50

days following, just Eliza and these very

29:52

heavy seeming suitcases. That was literally the

29:54

only explanation. They went and arrested Eliza

29:56

practically straight away and she did try

29:59

and deny it. She tried to deny

30:01

that she had anything to do with

30:03

it, but like... You can't deny that

30:06

CCTV footage. So regardless, she was charged

30:08

with his murder. And eventually, after wearing

30:10

her down in a questioning, she admitted

30:12

that she killed him and she told

30:15

police the sequence of events leading up

30:17

to her murdering her own husband. She

30:19

said that they'd been arguing... all night

30:21

before it happened. They had been arguing

30:24

for hours, practically since they'd gotten back

30:26

in the apartment from him picking her

30:28

up. She said that they'd ordered this

30:30

takeaway of pizza for dinner because neither

30:33

of them could be bothered cooking, so

30:35

they're waiting for this pizza to get

30:37

here, and before it even arrives, Marcos

30:40

starts acting weird, right? He took a

30:42

phone call, as they were waiting for

30:44

the pizza to arrive, he took a

30:46

phone call, and he comes back into

30:49

the room afterwards, and he says, needs

30:51

me tonight so I'm gonna I'm gonna

30:53

go over to his house after we've

30:55

eaten dinner. and immediately Elise in us

30:58

that this is a lie. She knew

31:00

that he was ditching her on her

31:02

first night back in town to go

31:04

and see his mistress, who was obviously

31:07

still there. He'd been meeting up with

31:09

his mistress every single night for the

31:11

last week. She was probably still in

31:14

town, and he was probably ditching his

31:16

wife that he hasn't seen in a

31:18

week to go and meet this escort.

31:20

And Elise was fuming, of course. Her

31:23

initial plan was to try and play

31:25

it cool and calm and try and

31:27

have a discussion about it. and bring

31:29

it up in a more level-headed way.

31:32

But as soon as she heard this,

31:34

that he was going to see his

31:36

dad, she lost it. She couldn't hold

31:38

it in any longer. She started screaming

31:41

at him, saying, I know you're lying

31:43

to me. And again, this time, Mark

31:45

Austin... to try to beg for her

31:48

forgiveness, he didn't try to grovel, he

31:50

didn't try to make things up to

31:52

her. In fact, he did the complete

31:54

opposite. Marcos became evil. He became so

31:57

angry and awful with her. He was

31:59

telling her that she was crazy, that

32:01

she was making all of this up,

32:03

that she was paranoid, that she was

32:06

insecure, and this was stuff that he

32:08

had told her all throughout their relationship,

32:10

by the way. It wasn't exclusive to

32:12

this argument. always tell her that she

32:15

was crazy, that she was unstable, that

32:17

she wasn't a fit mother to their

32:19

daughter. Honestly, I think throughout this relationship,

32:22

we don't know a lot of the

32:24

ins and outs because they seemed very

32:26

happy on the outside, but I think

32:28

a lot of this relationship had been

32:31

quite abusive internally. He was very controlling,

32:33

very possessive, didn't let her have any

32:35

male friends. Whenever she would go to

32:37

law school, he would ring her up

32:40

like once every half an hour to

32:42

check where she was. who she was

32:44

with, making sure she wasn't with any

32:46

boys, she had to tell her male

32:49

friends not to talk in the background

32:51

while she was on the phone to

32:53

her husband because he would flip shit.

32:56

And this was just a constant throughout

32:58

their relationship. She would always be called

33:00

crazy and unstable, he would put her

33:02

down, he would make her feel so

33:05

worthless and less than human. And particularly,

33:07

he had a job with her past

33:09

as a sex worker, which is just

33:11

so stupid. It's so stupid, that's how

33:14

you met her, because you were soliciting

33:16

a sex worker, and now all of

33:18

a sudden when you make her your

33:20

wife... you want to look down on

33:23

her for having that past? So it's

33:25

all right for him to solicit sex

33:27

workers, but it's not all white for

33:30

his wife to have been one in

33:32

the past. He would tell her that

33:34

like good look finding another man after

33:36

me because I know men, men, what

33:39

value you. He used to tell her

33:41

that she was just something for them

33:43

to fuck. And at one point during

33:45

this particular confrontation on the night that

33:48

Eliza had arrived home, she confronted him

33:50

about the cheating. he is screaming at

33:52

her and at some point during this

33:54

confrontation he slaps her around the face

33:57

and that was the first time he

33:59

had ever done anything like that apparently

34:01

had never been physical with her before

34:04

never like physically harmed her but he

34:06

slapped her around the face and she

34:08

said that that was a turning point

34:10

for him. He'd never been violent before

34:13

and now she didn't know what he

34:15

was capable of. Straight away she told

34:17

him she wanted to leave him. That

34:19

they were gonna have to get a

34:22

divorce after this. They can't carry on

34:24

in a relationship now. And Marcos is

34:26

saying to her, he's like fine, okay,

34:28

leave me, but like good luck finding

34:31

someone new and all that kind of

34:33

stuff. And he was saying, yeah, you

34:35

can leave me but you can't take

34:38

our daughter, don't, because he was going

34:40

to tell everyone that she was crazy

34:42

and that she was unstable. She was

34:44

unfit to look after this kid. He

34:47

was saying that he was going to

34:49

get her institutionalized, not just taken off

34:51

of custody of their daughter, but he

34:53

was going to try and get her

34:56

hospitalised. And this again is something that

34:58

he would regularly threaten throughout their relationship,

35:00

that he was going to get her

35:02

taken away and locked away in a

35:05

hospital because she was supposedly crazy for

35:07

thinking that... he could cheat on her

35:09

even though she had video proof. He

35:11

just really liked to threaten her and

35:14

manipulate her and he was from what

35:16

she says anyway he was awful to

35:18

her throughout the marriage. Eliza says that

35:21

she doesn't remember much of what happened

35:23

that night. Apparently it was just all

35:25

this big emotion filled blur that she

35:27

she can't remember exact sequences of events.

35:30

She says that the next thing she

35:32

remembers she remembers she remembers. she had

35:34

a gun in her hand. They were

35:36

standing in the hallway and Marcos was

35:39

about six feet away from her. He

35:41

was walking towards her. She had this

35:43

gun in her hand and she had

35:45

it pointed at Marcos and he was

35:48

saying, what, if you're gonna do it,

35:50

do it, shoot me, shoot me. And

35:52

all of a sudden, Eliza pulled the...

35:55

She did it. She murdered her husband

35:57

with one singular gunshot wound to the

35:59

head. Marcos fell to the floor. He

36:01

was dead. She knew that he was

36:04

dead and she knew that she was

36:06

a murderer. There was no going back

36:08

from this and that was when panic

36:10

just started flooding in. She realized the

36:13

gravity of what she'd just done. She

36:15

knew that she was going to go

36:17

to jail for the rest of her

36:19

life. She knew that her daughter wasn't

36:22

going to have not only a father,

36:24

but either a mother now. She knew

36:26

that for the sake of her daughter,

36:29

she was going to have to try

36:31

and cover up this crime. Her daughter

36:33

needed her mother. She needed to be

36:35

there. And the only way that she

36:38

could do that is if she got

36:40

away with this murder. Eliza said that

36:42

she didn't know what else to dispose

36:44

of this body other than... chopping it

36:47

up. And so that's what she did.

36:49

She went and grabbed their hunting knives

36:51

that they used to kill Wild Bar

36:53

and everything else and she went and...

36:56

chopped up her husband's corpse. Elizae managed

36:58

to do this very very well. Like

37:00

we said, like it was discovered in

37:03

the autopsy, it was clear that she

37:05

had a lot of skill with knives

37:07

and immediately when it was discovered that

37:09

it was Elizae that had killed him,

37:12

immediately they were thinking, right, well, yeah,

37:14

nurse, she used to be a nurse,

37:16

makes sense that she has good knowledge

37:18

of anatomy, but actually it turns out

37:21

that the reason she was so good

37:23

at dismaring him was because... He had

37:25

taught her how to do this with

37:27

animals. He taught her how to skin

37:30

animals and deburn them and how to

37:32

cut through the different types of, you

37:34

know, the muscle versus gristle, any other.

37:37

It was Marcos that had taught her

37:39

everything she knew. It was him that

37:41

had bought her the gun that she

37:43

used to shoot and kill him. She

37:46

then stuffed the remains of her husband's

37:48

body into these three different... suitcases and

37:50

as we saw on CCTV she dragged

37:52

them all out the next day to

37:55

dispose of them. Eliza Matsunaga then spent

37:57

the next two weeks putting on a

37:59

very grieving wife act you know she

38:01

seemed very very sad to everyone that

38:04

she came in contact with which might

38:06

have been true to a degree but

38:08

also she was very actively lying you

38:11

know she would tell everyone that she

38:13

was so worried about him and she

38:15

hopes he comes home soon soon. You

38:17

know he's not coming home? You know

38:20

where he is, you know what you've

38:22

done to him? It's a very confusing

38:24

case, is this one. You will find

38:26

yourself feeling sympathetic one minute and then

38:29

not the next. You know, if you

38:31

are going to kill someone in self-defence,

38:33

she then goes on to lie about

38:35

it to everyone's face. She chops him

38:38

up, physically, physically sits there for hours,

38:40

hacking away at a human corpse. There's

38:42

only so much sympathy you can have

38:45

and honestly a lot of people theorize

38:47

that a lot of the sympathy that

38:49

you might have for a Lisei could

38:51

be built on false accusations. A lot

38:54

of people think that all of this

38:56

abuse that seemed to happen in the

38:58

last few hours of his life seems

39:00

quite convenient. There is absolutely no way

39:03

of knowing. It seems awful to want

39:05

to argue Elise's account and want to

39:07

say that she could be lying about

39:09

this, but it's something that police have

39:12

of course had to consider is that

39:14

he had never... hit her before up

39:16

until this night supposedly and things like

39:19

that. It just seemed very convenient that

39:21

the abuse reached this new height on

39:23

this particular night. But that being said,

39:25

if the abuse had naturally reached a

39:28

new height that night, then that's probably

39:30

why her self-defense kicked in. You know,

39:32

I mean, there's two sides to it.

39:34

I don't know. It's the dismemberment that

39:37

really gets me that like... If I

39:39

was to touchwood have to kill someone

39:41

in self-defence, hope to never have to,

39:43

then the next thought going through your

39:46

head to be, oh, okay, let's chop

39:48

them up and hide their body, no.

39:50

Absolutely not. Your first thought would be,

39:53

oh shit, call the police. You would

39:55

hope. A lot of people that don't

39:57

believe Elise. So this case is very

39:59

polarizing. A lot of people believe her.

40:02

A lot of people don't believe her.

40:04

A lot of people don't believe her.

40:06

A lot of the people that don't

40:08

believe her are men. And a lot

40:11

of the people that believe her are

40:13

women. You will see throughout this. You

40:15

know, they all suspected that she was

40:17

a gold digger in the beginning and

40:20

maybe this was her playing the long

40:22

game. Maybe she was getting in there,

40:24

getting married, having a kid with him,

40:27

so that then she could just have

40:29

all of his inheritance. Maybe just kill

40:31

him one day and then get all

40:33

of his life insurance money and be

40:36

the heir to the food company and

40:38

all of that. As I'm sure you

40:40

can imagine, most of the people that

40:42

are trying to discredit her accounts are

40:45

men. A lot of this case and

40:47

the trial was very, very misogynistic. there

40:49

claiming that she has been physically abused

40:51

emotionally abused for years she'd been cheated

40:54

on her husband had treated her like

40:56

crap and people were like nah I

40:58

think you just want his money which

41:00

like how stupid because as her team

41:03

of lawyers quite rightly pointed out she

41:05

already had his money she was already

41:07

married to him sharing all of that

41:10

wealth with him they were traveling the

41:12

world enjoying the world enjoying the finer

41:14

things in life she already had all

41:16

of that access to everything that she

41:19

could possibly get from killing him. So

41:21

what does she possibly have to gain

41:23

from killing him? Oh, another thing that

41:25

really miffed me off about this case,

41:28

especially the trial, is that they just

41:30

keep bringing up her past as a

41:32

sex worker, which is so insanely irrelevant

41:34

to absolutely everything that's going on. Absolutely

41:37

everything. But that was like one of

41:39

these misogynists' big point, is that she

41:41

was a struggling sex worker all these

41:44

years ago. So of course she's killed

41:46

him for his money. What does her

41:48

financial past even have to do? with.

41:50

her murdering him now. Never mind her

41:53

career passed, you know? Bottom line is,

41:55

she was already married to a very

41:57

rich man, she was already in a

41:59

very good situation, she doesn't need to

42:02

kill for money, is my point. Oh,

42:04

also, the cherry on top of all

42:06

this misogyny in this case is that

42:08

they actually made Eliza and Marcos's daughter

42:11

have a DNA test so that they

42:13

could prove that it was actually Marcos's

42:15

husband and that she wasn't still escorting

42:18

other men and falling pregnant with other

42:20

men. And you know the results came

42:22

back. The results came back. Of course

42:24

it was Marcos' baby. Of course it

42:27

was. She had never once cheated on

42:29

him. She'd never been unfaithful. There was

42:31

no one else in the picture on

42:33

her end. She had always been dedicated

42:36

to Marcos. She genuinely liked him. It

42:38

was him that was unfaithful. There was

42:40

nothing to worry about or doubt with

42:42

her. But now this is where we

42:45

flip again on this story because... there

42:47

were quite a few dodgy things in

42:49

Eliza's story that the prosecution brought up.

42:52

So for example, the way she said

42:54

that she shot him was that they

42:56

were standing about six feet away from

42:58

each other in the hallway, he was

43:01

walking towards her, and she just shot

43:03

him. But there's some inconsistencies between her

43:05

story and the physical evidence. So for

43:07

example, the gunshot wound, the bullet went

43:10

into Marcus's head from above. It kind

43:12

of went in like that and then

43:14

came out. of his jaw, which tells

43:16

us two things actually. The fact that

43:19

there was an exit wound says that

43:21

she must have been very very close

43:23

to him when she shot him, which

43:26

some people argue she must have been

43:28

a lot closer than six feet, but

43:30

some people say that in some cases

43:32

it is possible to have an exit

43:35

wound from six feet away. So that's

43:37

not very strong evidence, but the fact

43:39

that the bullet went into his head

43:41

from above when she is shorter than

43:44

him? is questionable. She was five foot

43:46

tall holding the gun about like shoulder

43:48

height. He was five for eight and

43:50

walking towards her. How? she possibly unless

43:53

she was like holding the gun all

43:55

the way up here and like pointing

43:57

down how how could she have shot

44:00

him like that her defense team does

44:02

say that this is a lot easier

44:04

to explain than it sounds basically if

44:06

Marcos was walking towards her probably like

44:09

like you know arguing throwing his arms

44:11

about moving around there's the chance that

44:13

he could have like ducked a little

44:15

bit and then she shot like say

44:18

like even did that with his head

44:20

and she shot straightforward then it's going

44:22

in the top of his head it

44:24

it does seem easier to explain away

44:27

than the prosecution made it sound and

44:29

of course there's the fact that if

44:31

you see someone putting a gun towards

44:34

you are you gonna and you're gonna

44:36

try and like duck and protect yourself

44:38

or hide or something out you you're

44:40

gonna you're gonna move my instinct to

44:43

go like that but yeah the prosecution

44:45

said that because of where this gunshot

44:47

wound was They said that Eliza must

44:49

be lying about her story. She can't

44:52

have been stood six feet away from

44:54

him when she shot him. They suggest

44:56

that he was probably sitting down or

44:58

laying down. He was unsuspecting. He was

45:01

unable to defend himself. In fact, one

45:03

of the theories that was put forward

45:05

by prosecution was that Eliza had planned

45:08

to shoot him. while he was out

45:10

collecting the pizza from the delivery driver.

45:12

So they think that he left the

45:14

apartment to go and get that pizza

45:17

and Eliza immediately snapped into action, went

45:19

and grabbed the gun, loaded it, and

45:21

then hid behind their front door, waited

45:23

for Marcos to return, he walks into

45:26

the apartment, and then once he's in

45:28

front of her and she's standing behind

45:30

him, they think she then shot him.

45:32

But now that I've just said all

45:35

that out loud, surely that! means that

45:37

the shot would be too low as

45:39

well. If he's like walking, then he

45:42

is still gonna be taller than her,

45:44

is he not? That's stupid. That is

45:46

stupid. But whatever you believe about where

45:48

she shot him or how she shot

45:51

him or how it went down, one

45:53

thing that I just cannot let go

45:55

of in my mind is that she

45:57

dismembered his body. I feel like dismemberment

46:00

always... takes a crime to the next

46:02

level because you have to actively sit

46:04

there for hours with the smell

46:06

of blood in your nose

46:08

like like I genuinely could

46:10

not think of anything worse.

46:12

You're hacking away at a

46:14

human body hearing all the

46:16

squelchy squelchy. for hours. Like it's a

46:19

completely different thing to shoot someone once

46:21

in the head in self-defence and then

46:23

feel really guilty and feel remorse and

46:25

like you know report yourself to the

46:27

police which is what I think a

46:29

lot of people would do versus try

46:32

and cover it up and chop up

46:34

this body into several pieces and then

46:36

stuff it all into three different suitcases,

46:38

drag the suitcases away, drag them to

46:40

a woodland, scatter the body parts about

46:42

as well. It wasn't even like she

46:45

just like ditched them all in... the

46:47

same place and got it over with.

46:49

They were scattered. This case is so,

46:51

it's so crazy. It's so crazy.

46:53

Oh, also, she was dismembering this

46:55

body while her infant child was

46:57

literally in the next room over

46:59

as well. That's another crazy part

47:02

of it. I don't know. I

47:04

think, I think there's a certain

47:06

extent of sympathy that you can

47:08

feel. And she kind of had

47:10

me up until the, until the

47:12

dismemberment part. Basically. And on

47:14

top of that, there was one interesting

47:17

thing that was talked about in the

47:19

trial that we don't... I don't know,

47:21

let me just tell you it, and

47:24

we'll see what you guys think when

47:26

I'm finished. But basically, in the autopsy,

47:28

it was discovered that Marcos had blood

47:31

in his lungs. Now, the pathologist seems

47:33

to think that this is because he

47:35

was alive. as Eliza was decapitating him.

47:38

He was breathing in his own blood

47:40

into his lungs and kind of choking

47:42

on it. He must have still been

47:45

alive after that gunshot wound and he

47:47

was still alive as he was having

47:49

his head hacked off. And the prosecution

47:52

kind of tried to use this on

47:54

trial saying that she was cold and

47:56

callous and she cut him up while

47:59

he was still... alive this was a

48:01

form of torture but Eliza said if that's

48:03

true I had no idea like she she

48:05

thought that that singular gunshot wound to

48:07

the head had killed him and there

48:09

are some people that think that's true

48:11

that the gunshot wound did kill him

48:14

immediately and the blood must have gotten

48:16

into his lungs some other way I

48:18

mean yeah with with with being dismembered

48:20

there's gonna be a lot of blood

48:22

getting everywhere so maybe that's how it

48:25

happened or maybe he was still alive

48:27

as he was being dismembered which sounds

48:29

Horrifying. But yeah, Eliza says that if

48:31

if that is true, she didn't she

48:33

didn't like intend to to cause

48:36

him more harm or to put

48:38

him in agony and torture him

48:40

or anything like that. She genuinely

48:42

thought he was dead and she

48:44

thought that she was disposing of

48:47

the body. Eliza Matsunaga was found

48:49

guilty of the murder and for

48:51

hiding her husband's body and for

48:53

all of that she was sentenced

48:55

to just under 20 years in

48:57

prison. She'll be due for release

49:00

in 2035 and Eliza has always

49:02

said how guilty and remorseful she

49:04

feels about this. She feels like she

49:06

acted completely out of character that night.

49:08

She acted out of... fear and desperation

49:11

fear for her life she says she

49:13

says that she would take it all

49:15

back if she could and for a

49:17

long time after she killed him she

49:20

would just wish that she could have

49:22

him back that things could go back

49:24

to how they were she said that

49:26

she's really really haunted by what she

49:29

did like to the point where she

49:31

has recurring nightmares she has bad dreams

49:33

about this all the time she's had

49:35

nightmares where she's seen his severed

49:37

head covered in blood and his

49:39

severed head is talking to her

49:41

honestly it sounds awful right now

49:44

she is still in prison and

49:46

I'm sure there'll be an update

49:48

on it in 2035. Oh, just

49:50

an update on their baby as

49:53

well. The baby is being raised

49:55

by Marcos' parents and apparently

49:57

is doing well. Thank you.

50:00

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