This podcast is a special interview with Stephen Townsend, Director of Network Programs at the Project Management Institute (PMI). In the interview we discussed the recently published book 'Integrating Program Management and Systems Engineering'. The book is a joint effort between PMI and International Council on Systems Engineering (INCOSE). The book is the product of five years of research and writing by a large team of contributors led by Eric Rebentisch and is both a really solid reference and a guide for integrating the two often conflicting disciplines of program management and systems engineering.

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