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I think you're most, our

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most, you're, we're back. We're

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back with Michael malice. You

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all know Michael malice. Welcome

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to Walkin's welcome. Thank you.

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You're, I think you are

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now, you are our most

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repeated, repeated, repeatable. I have like

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a bad meal, I keep repeating on

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you. You know like Taco Bell?

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Don't you ever, you take that

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name at your mouth. Take that

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shit back to Ireland where you

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belong. Like a potato head. Why,

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we were out of party at your

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house and there was a random

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potato and you accused me of

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bringing it. Was I wrong? Yes. You

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said no. We heard you. You all

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said no. You're like, did you bring

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this Bridget? I said, why would

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I fucking bring one potato?

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You're like, this is your people's food.

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It is though. It is. Yeah. In

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fact, the only reason you came to

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my party is because you heard

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there'd be a potato. You're like,

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oh shit, let me get on a plane. One

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potato, I better get down there. This

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is for you grandma. My people are

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hardy. Yeah. We're a resilient, we're

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a resilient folk. Yes. Especially as

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some sour cream chives. Look, potatoes

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are amazing. You can turn them

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into many things. I love potatoes.

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I love potatoes. I love potatoes.

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I love potatoes. your eyes aren't you

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on a cut or whatever I'm doing

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lean gains what's this when

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you slow very slowly increase

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your calorie intake okay so you're

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doing it with french rice oh

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yeah because I can't get enough

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calories otherwise okay what

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about just protein or whatever it's

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so fat is like three times

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as caloric as like a right right

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density yeah yeah okay I don't know

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anything about this. Okay. I should though with

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as a woman in my condition. Why?

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A Perry Matipaz. Oh. Well just don't eat

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french fries or like you know just eat

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healthy. You don't eat healthy. You don't

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have to measure calories like a crazy

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person. Okay. Yeah, so we were

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talking about you wanting to do

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stand up. Let's start there. Sure.

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I was on, so for those

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of you don't know, this is

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a crossover event. I did. We're

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using the word event a little

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loosely. I guess like, like, like,

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like, waking up as an event

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at our age. And I woke

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up this, let's on the party.

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And you are now on mine

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a week later. Yes. So you

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want to do stand-up? Yeah, I'm

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thinking of doing stand-up. You're more

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than thinking about it. You've written

2:34

five minutes? Yes, well I want

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to do terrorism. I don't really

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want to understand it. I don't

2:40

want people to laugh. I want

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them to be uncomfortable. Okay. You're

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going to be the first person

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to see it. Yes, you're going

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to be the first people to

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see my material. Okay. Can we

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ask us what he thinks about

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terrorism as comedy? I would love

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to see Michael do it. Yeah.

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No, but I mean, what do

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you think about this kind of

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general philosophy? You know, there are

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a lot of comedians who are

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like the Joker comedians who want

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to just like make people squirm.

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I think it has a place.

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Riccagere base makes people laugh though

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too. No, but he makes a

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lot of people, but yeah, but

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Riccagere base about the humor. Okay.

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Have you seen extras? Yes, of

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course. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You said

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that I was the only person

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who just. dissuaded you from it?

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No, you're the only person who

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didn't encourage me. I didn't encourage

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you. Right. Do you think that

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it's just people going, yeah, sure,

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Michael, that would be great? No,

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because I'll tell you who I

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talk to. I'll give you the

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bold-faced names list. Kurt Metzger? Kurt

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Metzger. He knew it. I knew

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he was first on the fucking

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list. Well, he wasn't first, but

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he's on the list. Kurt Metzger,

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David Lucas, Brian Dave Landau Dave

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Smith And there's a couple of

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others that I'm like at the

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moment all these Nazis all these

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Nazis. Yeah, all the Nazis think

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you should do it. Yeah Yeah,

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they're they're they're killers. There are

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a lot of killers there You

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are hilarious. I saw a show

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not that long ago and it

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was really bad like everyone and

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I'm like I could be as

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bad as this. That's kind of

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my theory about comedy. Yeah And

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here's the thing I have a

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people know my voice already. Yeah,

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you have a brand. Yes, you're

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gonna say that. I was not.

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I do think people know your

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voice and I do think you're

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hilarious. So why were you not?

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You were a month, you might,

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okay, Bridget, despite being like kind

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of like a guy's girl, you're

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one of the most nurturing people

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I know. So I was surprised

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that you're like, yeah. But don't

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you think that would come from

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my sense of being nurturing? No,

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I think you're, I would, I

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think you're very encouraging. Well, nurturing

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and encouraging are two different things.

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Apparently, I was wrong. I thought

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you were both. No, I am

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encouraging. What if I throw potatoes?

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Here's how encouraging. Here's how encouraging

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out. I will go to open

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mics review. I'm not doing open

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mics. What are you going to

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do? I'm going to cut the

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line. You're just going to do

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shows. I know I could do

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shows. because if people tape it,

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it's a wrap for me. It's,

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I'm going dark, I'm going really

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dark. I'm going to really dark.

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I'm not the shepherd material. Okay.

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Yeah, see, there you go. That's

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what I, okay, she's a red

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icon for just mentioning that name.

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That's where I'm going. Okay. Yeah.

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No, the reason that I, God

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wants us to kill me, actually.

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My only fear for you is

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that, and maybe it's just a

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persona, maybe you just, maybe, maybe.

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Let's talk about this. This is

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interesting. No, no. I was trying

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to decide what it is. Okay.

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Well, go ahead. Maybe it's just...

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How good are you at receiving

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rejection? Oh, okay. So let's talk

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about this. This is interesting. So

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first of all... I did stand

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up for like six months back

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in 2000. Oh, so you've already

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done it. Hold on, hold on,

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and I stopped for this exact

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reason. Because what's frustrating and was

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a real mindfuck is a joke

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that kills one night bombs the

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next. Yeah. So it's very crazy

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that you have the same input

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and completely disparate outputs. So that

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really threw me for a loop.

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Now though, I think it's going

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to be a little different because

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if they're just silent, it's kind

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of funny. And I also think

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it's kind of funny if I

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keep talking about this for like

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a year and never do it.

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Like that also is funny to

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me if I just keep talking

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about different shows. I'm going to

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stand up like it never happens.

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I think you should do it.

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Well yeah, I think I'll do

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it. I'm going to do it.

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I'm going I'm going to do

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it. I'm going to do it

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today and you can tell I

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will see your reaction and Justin.

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That's fair. It's not. It's soul

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crushing and I see what it

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does to people, even people with

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a very healthy sense of self-esteem

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and often the people with the

7:33

most self-esteem are they're not like

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riddled with crippling self-doubt, they're not

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riddled with a lot of any

7:40

kind of depression, any of that

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are just okay and they can

7:44

kind of flow through. but it

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seems like sometimes the people who

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are the most riddled with this

7:51

stuff are also the most brilliant

7:53

and so I don't doubt that

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you wouldn't be I've seen you

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crush on Rogan you know I've

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seen you make jokes and you

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kill, I've seen you, you're very

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funny, just naturally smart person. It's

8:06

just the, I guess if you just

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truly from the bottom of your

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heart, do not care about the

8:13

reaction whatsoever, don't, I

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mean, I remember bombing, it

8:17

was at Mothership, and it

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was one of my first chances

8:22

of getting up in front of

8:24

Adam. the booker and I had

8:26

the worst fucking set it was

8:28

like I had been doing pretty

8:31

well since I got back and

8:33

I had it I was due like

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I was due for a cricket bomb

8:37

I went in over compensating the idea

8:39

I had tons of mom guilt I

8:42

they could sense all of it they

8:44

knew I was nervous my eye Landau

8:46

had to talk me down off the

8:48

fucking ledge. I was like, I'm gonna

8:50

drive into the quarry. He's like, you're

8:53

a mom. And it just is such

8:55

a mind fucking, it feels so big.

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And I had made it so big.

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And it was like devastating to me.

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And I was like, I'm gonna quit.

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What am I doing? My only fear

9:06

with bombing isn't the bombing. It's what

9:08

do you do literally? Like if I'm

9:10

on stage and I'm talking and no

9:12

one's reacting, you're pacing

9:14

screwed. because you're not

9:16

pausing for laughs, you don't

9:19

know what they're, it's like,

9:21

it's like, it's like talking

9:23

to a wall. That's the

9:25

scary part. It's not that

9:27

they don't think it's funny,

9:30

that's fine. A lot of

9:32

people don't think I'm funny. It's

9:34

just like, literally, like, do I

9:36

speed this up? Do I slow

9:39

it down? Like, I don't care.

9:41

You're like, like, I don't give

9:43

a shit about that.

9:45

responsibility to try and like

9:48

leave the place better than you

9:50

know. I would want that. I

9:52

would want that. I just left

9:54

you with a cold room

9:56

that's traumatized from whatever they

9:59

just saw. No, no, I'll

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take what I could get,

10:03

I think, at first. Yeah,

10:05

yeah. So that was when

10:07

you asked me like, what

10:09

was my hesitation? It's just

10:11

that, that, yeah, man, it's

10:13

like, I see, there's like

10:15

a high rate of, you

10:17

know, suicide in our industry.

10:19

Wow, okay. Very high. We

10:22

lose people all the time.

10:24

Do you think everyone who's

10:26

like at our level and

10:28

above? I'm coming to the

10:30

realization that everyone, like at

10:32

her level or above, maybe

10:34

below, I don't know, in

10:36

podcasting is like literally, or

10:38

not everyone, almost, like a

10:40

lot more than you would

10:42

think, are like literally severely

10:44

mentally ill. I know that

10:47

I have to be mentally

10:49

ill to get on stage

10:51

and tell jokes. No, I

10:53

don't even commentating podcasting. I'm

10:55

underestimating how many people are

10:57

really screwed in the head.

10:59

Like, like seriously screwed. But

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do you think everyone is

11:03

and they just don't have

11:05

a microphone? No. I don't.

11:07

I wonder about the just

11:09

level of what I've got.

11:12

I didn't know really anything

11:14

about media. You were really

11:16

one of the first podcasts

11:18

I ever did. Oh, actually

11:20

coming into this world, I

11:22

knew nothing. I just, I

11:24

stumbled into the culture wars

11:26

and I knew nothing about

11:28

them as you know. And

11:30

now I'm mega. As you

11:32

also know. And it's been

11:34

a journey really, hasn't it?

11:37

From potato to orange, the

11:39

bridge or fetacy story. Started

11:41

here, now we're here. I

11:43

mean, it seems like a

11:45

level to spear. Orange is

11:47

our delicacy, okay? Yes, sure.

11:49

I didn't, I think I,

11:51

I thought that most mentally

11:53

ill attention seeking opportunity. were

11:55

in Hollywood? Oh no no.

11:57

That's the good one. Media

11:59

makes Hollywood like positively quaint

12:02

in some ways. Well maybe

12:04

we think that because we're

12:06

in it and we don't

12:08

know how bad Hollywood is.

12:10

No I know how bad

12:12

Hollywood is. Oh I think

12:14

Hollywood's worse, come on. I

12:16

don't think so. The levels

12:18

of drug addiction, the levels

12:20

of like sexual perversion, they're

12:22

far more than in podcasting.

12:24

Podcasters aren't that interesting. Well...

12:27

I guess I overlap podcasting

12:29

with politics because it seems

12:31

to overlap. Yeah, I don't

12:33

think that's fair though. Yeah,

12:35

maybe. The typical podcaster or

12:37

the typical politician aren't the

12:39

same person. So you think

12:41

podcasters are just crazy people

12:43

with microphones? I'm underestimated how

12:45

many are crazy. What

12:47

made you come to this realization? I

12:50

can't name names, but like people... I

12:52

was like in for names. I know,

12:54

people who I'm friends with who are

12:56

like fairly prominent podcasters, like the mask

12:58

drops. And I'm like, oh, like this

13:00

isn't like quirky or like, oh, I

13:02

gotta clean my room all the time.

13:05

This is like, you are really a

13:07

crazy person. Uh-huh. And to fuck with

13:09

the audience, I'll tell you some of

13:11

these stories off camera. Okay. And you'll

13:13

be like, oh, okay. Crazy stuff. So

13:15

why do you think that that is?

13:17

I don't know. Is it a chicken

13:20

egg thing, right? Does it attract the

13:22

crazies or does it make you crazy?

13:24

Do you think you become crazier or

13:26

sainer since you've become a broadcaster? I

13:28

mean, we joke about this all the

13:30

time on dumpster fire that if you

13:32

watch dumpster fire, it's just the story

13:35

of a woman going crazy. You know,

13:37

like if you had, if you had,

13:39

truly, if you had told 2016 Bridget,

13:41

the 2024 Bridget was going to vote

13:43

for Trump, I would have been like,

13:45

wow, I lose my mind. in the

13:47

future, how unfortunate. Can I tell a

13:50

story about this? Yeah. This is in

13:52

my biography, You Go to Universal, came

13:54

out in 2006. I had a high

13:56

school teacher named Miss Casella. She and

13:58

I did not get a lot. She

14:00

was an English teacher. The semester after

14:02

mine, my name came up. And she

14:05

told the whole class, ugh, I wanted

14:07

to tell him, Michael, I hate you.

14:09

Teacher telling her class this. So I

14:11

made a oak tag. board that said

14:13

Judy's road to Madness, that was her,

14:15

her first name is Judy, and it

14:17

was a little road and all the

14:20

signs with her little quotes at along

14:22

the way, sign posts, and at the

14:24

end she's in the nut house drawn

14:26

in the window, and I gave it

14:28

to her because I knew she couldn't

14:30

do shit because you're telling a classroom

14:32

of people that you hate me as

14:35

a teacher, as a teacher, that you

14:37

end up. I don't know. It's probably

14:39

dead. I don't know. She's, I mean,

14:41

this was 90s. Yeah, it was great.

14:43

I turned the whole class against her

14:45

systemically. It was so great. It was,

14:47

she told a kid, he's like, if

14:50

you don't sit next to him, because

14:52

we picked wherever seats we wanted, I'll

14:54

guarantee you like an A, but if

14:56

you do, your grade will suffer. And

14:58

I'm like, you want to play, we

15:00

can do this, we can do this.

15:02

And how old were you. This is,

15:05

this, I mean, I mean, I mean,

15:07

I mean this, I mean this, I

15:09

mean this, I mean, I mean, I

15:11

mean, I mean this, I mean, I

15:13

mean this, I mean, I mean, I

15:15

mean, I mean, I mean this, I

15:17

mean, I mean, I mean, I mean,

15:20

I mean this, I mean this, I

15:22

mean this, I mean this, I mean

15:24

this, I mean this, I mean this,

15:26

I mean You were always diabolical. From

15:28

a young age, yeah. When was the

15:30

first time you realized you were diabolical?

15:32

Like what's the first diabolical memory that

15:35

you have? This isn't the first one,

15:37

but when I was in fifth grade,

15:39

can I curse on this? Yeah. There's

15:41

a girl named Bonnie, her dad was

15:43

a cop, and Bonnie and Michelle were

15:45

making fun of me, and they said

15:48

something nasty. and I said the meanest

15:50

thing I knew and I had no

15:52

idea what it meant. Okay, but I'm

15:54

like, okay, this is my nuke. I

15:56

said. Bonnie, tell your mother to stop

15:58

changing lipstick. I'm getting rainbows on my

16:00

dick. Okay, because I thought rainbows on

16:03

the dick was something funny. I didn't

16:05

know what that meant, right? Her mom

16:07

was dead. So, did you know how

16:09

was that? No, but it's irrelevant. She

16:11

told her dad, she told her dad

16:13

who was a cop. Okay, school ends?

16:15

This pig, this pig starts grabbing kids

16:18

by the shirt. Is this him? And

16:20

he comes to, is this him? And

16:22

she goes, yes. And he gets in

16:24

my face. And he's in my face.

16:26

And he's like, and he's like, and

16:28

he's like, and he's like, and he's

16:30

like, and he's like, and he's like,

16:33

and he's like, and he's like, and

16:35

he's like, and he's like, and he's

16:37

like, and he's like, and he's like,

16:39

and he's like, and he's like, and

16:41

he's like, and he's like, he's like,

16:43

he's like I can put you in

16:45

jail. And I made a point to

16:48

laugh in his face even though I

16:50

was scared because I was not going

16:52

to let this fat pig, well he

16:54

wasn't fat, terrorize me. And I'm proud

16:56

of myself and that guy should be

16:58

in jail. You put your hands on

17:00

a kid and threaten him like this

17:03

with kind of animal you. But that

17:05

was like an early moment where I

17:07

knew how to kind of flip the

17:09

script on the depraved in power. And

17:11

what did he do? He just walked

17:13

away. What could he do? He's in

17:15

butt of something in his breath, like,

17:18

oh, don't ever do that again. I'm

17:20

just like, whatever. And I was right.

17:22

Yeah. Wow. And she never did change

17:24

the lipstick again. You want to see

17:26

the rainbow? You're welcome. You're welcome! That's

17:28

really what you're welcoming. Yes. I have

17:30

no idea. I never wear pants on

17:33

the show. People don't realize it. I'm

17:35

just beating up furiously. Just go and

17:37

fold two men. Yeah, there you go.

17:39

I have a real New Yorker. Do

17:41

you miss New York ever? I miss

17:43

what New York was all the time

17:45

desperately. And I read books about New

17:48

York in the 70s and 80s. Friendly,

17:50

which is coming here. I'm so excited.

17:52

I'm going to get to see her.

17:54

And I watch old movies, all TV

17:56

shows, and I was just back not

17:58

that long ago to do stassal. and

18:00

it's even worse and it makes me

18:03

so angry and I tell you if

18:05

I know I can't advocate violence

18:07

on the show but if

18:09

I had the opportunity to

18:11

like guillotine these people I

18:13

would not bat an eye. Yeah. I

18:15

was feeling... Every time I'm back,

18:17

something else, like some cool establishment

18:20

is gone. Yeah. I realize, oh,

18:22

I didn't go to this place

18:24

since whatever, gone because of COVID.

18:27

For no reason. They bail out

18:29

Wall Street, every cool spot that

18:31

makes New York and every other

18:33

city cool, and every other city cool,

18:36

oh, too bad. You're $700. Yeah. That

18:38

was the feeling I got when I

18:40

went back to LA, because I've been

18:42

away now for a year and no...

18:45

And this is pre-fire so

18:47

yeah I don't I was I was thinking

18:49

last night how mad I would

18:52

be at myself if I hadn't

18:54

just like I would be furious

18:56

with myself I mean aside

18:58

from just feeling bad for

19:01

everybody around me and for

19:03

the tragedy and for people

19:05

do not comprehend like how

19:08

bad it is and how

19:10

it is decades like a

19:12

decade away from being something

19:14

again, at least five years,

19:17

buildings and whatever. I would

19:19

also be like, I fucking knew

19:21

this was gonna happen. Is there

19:23

also a new California law that

19:25

you can't build mansions that are

19:27

too big anymore? There's so many

19:29

laws, I don't know, and even

19:31

just, yeah, there's so many stuff

19:34

is happening as we're speaking and

19:36

they're trying, at least any council's

19:38

already trying to rezone. Like people,

19:41

the fires aren't even out. It's

19:43

there, these are bad people. LA

19:45

City Council is despicable.

19:48

They're one of the worst city

19:50

councils in all of America. I

19:52

don't know how any of those

19:54

people have any power and they

19:56

have an inordinate amount of power

19:58

over every day citizens live. and

20:00

they're the worst, they're the absolute

20:02

worst. We're very fortunate Austin that

20:04

it's a very rare city where the

20:06

political capital is also the cultural

20:09

capital or our cultural capital. So

20:11

Austin City Council, my understanding is

20:13

that they're basically commies, but since

20:15

the governor seats here, like he

20:18

overrules them and keeps it pretty sane.

20:20

Yeah, and there has been this

20:22

very, all my old school friends

20:24

from Austin always said there is

20:26

like the old. mantra about Austin

20:28

that was like keep Austin weird

20:30

but keep Austin surrounded. Oh yeah,

20:32

yeah, right, yeah. And I do

20:34

think that that's actually been maintained.

20:36

Yeah. And there's a lot of,

20:38

you know, people are like, oh,

20:40

you're moving to Austin that like,

20:42

it's like the turn in the

20:44

toilet or whatever. I, I, most

20:46

people think of Texas as a toilet,

20:48

but I, I don't know, I feel

20:50

like it's kind of the cultural capital

20:53

of America for sure right now. No?

20:55

No. Where do you think it is?

20:57

It's still New York. I don't think

20:59

so. We're not making any TV shows.

21:01

We're not making any movies. Like, what

21:03

do we call? We will be. Okay, when

21:05

that happens, then we'll be the capital.

21:08

No. What do you think capital means?

21:10

It means the most output or

21:12

the most important output. Where are they

21:14

making all the TV shows? New York

21:16

and LA? No, they're not. Where are

21:18

they making them? Atlanta? A lot of

21:21

it is relocated to Atlanta,

21:23

a lot of it's, it's

21:25

not, those industries aren't in

21:27

New York and LA anymore.

21:30

They're not here. They're building

21:32

the infrastructure for them to

21:35

be here. Fine, they're

21:37

still not here. I think they're

21:39

on their way. Okay, that's

21:41

nice. There's still not here.

21:43

Maybe when they arrive here, then

21:46

we'll be the capital. We'll

21:48

never have a museum. It's Texas.

21:50

But a cultural capital, that's

21:53

not true. Dallas system.

21:55

I know. I'm kidding. I do. Yeah,

21:57

that's true. There is a lack of

21:59

that. Did you go to the museums

22:02

a lot when you were in

22:04

New York? Yeah, of course. Not

22:06

everybody takes advantage of that stuff.

22:08

It's a great way to spend

22:10

an afternoon. Yeah, I went to,

22:12

when I was home, I went

22:14

to Getty Villa. They have this

22:16

like stunning, when they were showing

22:18

all the fires, I was like,

22:20

man, I hope that that exhibit

22:22

is saved. It's this insane exhibit

22:24

about Thrace, which I knew nothing

22:26

about. Bulgaria, parts of Bulgaria, it

22:28

was like during ancient Greece. Oh,

22:30

okay, I know three, so I

22:32

thought it was like a musician.

22:34

Oh no, no, sorry. So it's

22:36

like this, it is, one of

22:38

the most beautiful exhibits I've ever

22:40

seen while we, well, anywhere really.

22:42

And I was like, oh, I

22:44

hope it's, but I loved doing

22:46

that. I love going into museums.

22:48

That's the one thing being here

22:50

that is a little bit. Yeah.

22:52

I want my daughter to like

22:54

grow up going to museums and

22:56

knowing I was born in New

22:58

York City. Oh, that's cool. But

23:00

I was the only one of

23:02

my five siblings. Okay. And I'm

23:04

the only one of my five

23:06

siblings who still lives in cities.

23:08

Oh, isn't that weird? Why? I

23:10

don't know. I think I just

23:12

got addicted to the city as

23:14

a little kid being pushed around

23:16

in New York City. I needed

23:19

like all that stimuli. I could

23:21

live not in a city. Just

23:23

from the, I need the noise.

23:25

Yeah. You don't like the noise.

23:27

I like the noise. I mean

23:29

the noise. Yeah. It is very

23:31

like where we live now in

23:33

the burbs. It's quiet. I don't

23:35

like that. It is so quiet.

23:37

It's so ominous. It's so ominous

23:39

to me. Yeah, yeah. But is

23:41

us that as loud as New

23:43

York? No, not at all. But

23:45

it's also different because you have

23:47

people in your house. I'm by

23:49

myself. So if it's really quiet

23:51

outside. It's just like, is like,

23:53

is the whole invasion happening happening

23:55

now? Is now the home invasion?

23:57

Like it's any minute it's going

23:59

to be the home invasion. I

24:01

know it. And I've got my

24:03

gun, but let's be realistic. There's

24:05

five of them and they've got

24:07

pig masks. And I'm just one

24:09

small guy. I see as someone

24:11

who's so far ahead of the

24:13

curve. in general, how do you

24:15

manage being so far ahead of

24:17

it and then see everybody kind

24:19

of catch up, but you're already

24:21

on to the next curve? Like

24:23

what are your kind of, not

24:25

predictions, but what trends do you

24:27

see in the culture and in

24:29

the culture wars that are unfolding

24:31

right now? I think we talked

24:33

a little bit at the summer

24:36

show. I think the Democrats are

24:38

going to have a massive comeback.

24:40

in terms of recapturing the center.

24:42

And I think we're also going

24:44

to see unorthodox comedy make a

24:46

big comeback, even a lefty circles.

24:48

In what respect? Meaning like comedy

24:50

that is just offensive and just,

24:52

you know, pushes buttons, that's going

24:54

to come back hard. Yeah, I

24:56

mean, you see that kind of

24:58

everywhere and particularly a lot of

25:00

the... Mothership, guys. That's the mothership.

25:02

I'm talking about, you'll see in

25:04

LA, New York. And culturally. Yeah.

25:06

Yeah. It is weird how it

25:08

just got memory hauled. That's the

25:10

other thing. Conservatives, not the either

25:12

of us, are conservative, don't know

25:14

how to take a win. Right.

25:16

It's not like the New York

25:18

Times going to say, okay, you

25:20

got us. We're going back to

25:22

normal. They're just going to pretend

25:24

it never happened. Like there were

25:26

never any lockdowns that we never

25:28

were quarantined. You're just crazy. You're

25:30

just a crazy person to imagine

25:32

this. There were never any mandates.

25:34

What are you talking about? Passports.

25:36

Okay, crazy. I know. I mean,

25:38

I talk about the rage. Is

25:40

that true? You're in recovery, right?

25:42

In recovery? One thing's in recovery

25:44

is always like, okay, what is

25:46

causing this feeling? I think it's

25:48

just being the blatant gas lighting.

25:50

But why, like, if someone on

25:52

the street comes up to you

25:55

and says, you and Jared were

25:57

never married, you're not going to

25:59

be angry, you're going to be

26:01

like, okay, crazy person, get away

26:03

from me, right? That's true. So

26:05

why does this enrage you? Because

26:07

it's... from the state down, so

26:09

it feels like they're trying to

26:11

rewire reality. They are. And reconstruct

26:13

reality, and on a mass level,

26:15

and I've seen how many people

26:17

go along with it. And so

26:19

it makes me mad that they're

26:21

manipulating people like that. But to

26:23

me, being mad implies that you'd

26:25

expect otherwise. Right. But this is

26:27

what they always do. Right. Maybe

26:29

I'm just still. So there's that

26:31

line about you. It was a

26:33

snake when you picked it up

26:35

kind of thing. Yeah I think

26:37

you're still naive about how evil

26:39

they are and how shameless they

26:41

are. I am. I see you

26:43

using evil and I and I

26:45

don't like to like throw those

26:47

words around but the more England,

26:49

what's going on England? It's crazy.

26:51

It's evil. Evil. Yeah, and that's

26:53

been something that people in our

26:55

circles have been covering for years.

26:57

Douglas Murray wrote a whole freaking

26:59

chapter about it in a book

27:01

like almost a decade. And when

27:03

I, Sally, came on my podcast,

27:05

she brought it up and was

27:07

run, you know, called a bigot

27:09

for even bringing these things up,

27:11

these brilliant people who are just

27:14

trying to. And often said this

27:16

is nobody cares because they're like

27:18

white working class poor girls in

27:20

UK and so high society doesn't

27:22

give a shit about them either

27:24

right and Yeah, that shit's evil

27:26

the more you read and hear

27:28

about it. It's horrific and I

27:30

Don't know I guess I I

27:32

have a My husband is less

27:34

emotional than I am and in

27:36

a lot of respects and more

27:38

skeptical so he generally tends to

27:40

just He'll

27:42

say it's more than likely incompetence.

27:44

Oh my God. You know, it's

27:46

like he kind of- You know

27:48

how he's wrong? You know how

27:50

you know he's wrong? Let's suppose

27:53

I was a bank teller, right?

27:55

And I screwed something up and

27:57

someone had a- for 500 and

27:59

I gave him like 5,000 or

28:01

50,000 instead, I lost all this

28:03

money, I'd really feel guilt. And

28:05

I'd be like, maybe this isn't

28:07

the right job for me. And

28:09

that's just cash, that's replaceable, it's

28:11

a huge bank, who cares at

28:13

the end of the day. This

28:15

is a kids being systematically tortured

28:17

and assaulted for decades. So if

28:19

you're incompetent. And this is what

28:22

happens as a result of your

28:24

incompetence. You'd be jumping off a

28:26

ledge. Oh no, I'm not talking

28:28

about even the UK. I'm talking

28:30

more in relation to like the

28:32

things of lockdowns or just like

28:34

that these, the. No, the lockdowns

28:36

are incompetent because people don't know

28:38

what to do. I'll buy that,

28:40

but the gas lighting is not

28:42

incompetence. That's systemic and by design.

28:44

That's them avoiding responsibility because it

28:46

would be very reasonable to say

28:48

we had this deadly disease, we

28:51

were freaking the hell out, we

28:53

wanted to err on the side

28:55

of caution because it went the

28:57

wrong way, lots of people would

28:59

die, or so we thought. So

29:01

better safe than sorry was our

29:03

mental process, we learned a... approach.

29:05

That was not the approach at

29:07

all. At all. There's no responsibility.

29:09

No, okay, this was a mistake.

29:11

This worked. Telling people, hey guys,

29:13

like, let's regroup. Let's, you know,

29:15

do the breakdown. This is what

29:17

worked. This is what didn't. Like,

29:20

I bring this up all the

29:22

time about red-pilling people. Social distancing.

29:24

If social disting worked, why didn't

29:26

they bring it back with the

29:28

second wave? And if it didn't

29:30

work, why did we do we

29:32

do it to begin with? Which

29:34

one of those, you picked a

29:36

lane. So it's very fair to

29:38

say, you know what, we thought

29:40

it would work, we realized it

29:42

was pointless, lesson learned. There's none.

29:44

It's just like, we never did

29:47

show this thing, that sign on

29:49

the floor, you're a crazy person.

29:51

And they're still there, that's the

29:53

craziest part. The elevator, yeah, if

29:55

we just stand apart the elevator,

29:57

you're not gonna breathe the same

29:59

air. Yeah, whatever. Or should I

30:01

say Irish fries? You're welcome as

30:03

eating fries, jerk of it.

30:05

Do that on stage.

30:07

It'll kill. No,

30:09

I think about,

30:12

because you've been

30:14

such a grounding

30:16

influence for

30:18

me in the culture

30:20

wars. Oh, wow, okay.

30:23

Which I realize

30:25

is probably why

30:27

I'm now insane. All

30:29

right, that's a wrap. That's

30:32

why you're here. No, because

30:34

you didn't, you don't,

30:36

you've hardly quined

30:38

you. She was a nice,

30:41

mentally healthy girl. And now

30:43

she wants best murder for

30:45

the sake of it. Oh, Mr.

30:48

M. You're so funny. You

30:50

should do jokes. Oh, God.

30:52

And you're the joker. Um,

30:54

so. I do think you've been this grounding

30:56

force for me at least because I

30:58

always think you're saying you take one

31:00

red film, not the whole bottle. It's

31:02

a quote in the book. I'm now

31:05

just writing because nobody wants my book.

31:07

Here's how fuck that you were so

31:09

right about publishing too. I've been thinking

31:11

about this. So I've been trying to...

31:13

I got interrupted you. The new right is

31:15

out in paperback. They never told me

31:18

it's out in paperback. In fact,

31:20

they never told me the original

31:22

publication date. I found out through

31:24

Amazon. To this date, I have

31:26

never been told from my publisher,

31:29

uh, St. Martin's, when the

31:31

book was out. That's how bad,

31:33

this sounds like a joke. It does

31:35

sound like a joke. Like I only

31:37

found out I was on paperback,

31:40

because Cernovich mentioned it,

31:42

and I looked it up on

31:44

Amazon, and it says paperback.

31:46

It's... Even if it's a terrible book, the

31:48

point is, this is cartoonish levels of, like,

31:51

whatever the word is. Inconfidence? I don't even

31:53

know if it's incompetence. It's not if they

31:55

send you the wrong email address, that's incompetence.

31:57

It's just, like, shamelessness? I don't know.

31:59

Yeah, they just didn't want to

32:01

acknowledge it. They're like, we can't

32:04

get that out there. I have

32:06

no further information. Interesting. So I've

32:08

been wanting to write a book

32:10

about being caught in the crossfire

32:12

of the cultural wars forever. And

32:14

then everyone's like that, first it

32:16

was that. That audience doesn't exist.

32:19

I'm like, how do you explain

32:21

Joe Rogan? Sure, yeah, yeah. You

32:23

know, like, this said, it was

32:25

a book about the center. And

32:27

then they wanted it to be

32:29

less funny and more journalistic, which

32:31

is a weird thing to tell

32:33

a comedian and somebody who writes

32:36

in my voice. Like, that's also

32:38

not what my audience wants. They

32:40

want the behind-the-scenes stories, like, like,

32:42

I... My dad told, made me

32:44

promise not to do porn and

32:46

this feels somehow dirtier than porn.

32:48

It's a great line. Like, they're

32:50

putting my eyelashes on and she's

32:53

like, I'm nervous. She's like, don't

32:55

worry, you do it all the

32:57

time just not on camera. I'm

32:59

like, that's what they tell people

33:01

and porn. It

33:06

was fucking crazy. And then just

33:08

the whole experience was wild and

33:10

it was wild. But I'll and

33:13

also going on Gavin Newsom's podcast

33:15

and him and I having a

33:17

great conversation about my heroin addiction

33:19

and he's like, how do I

33:21

tell my audience not to let

33:24

their daughters become like you? And

33:26

I was like, here's some great

33:28

advice, Gavin. And we had a

33:30

good time. And then he, I

33:32

looked at him and he had

33:35

this look in his eye. And

33:37

I was like, Gavin. Don't do

33:39

anything that is going to make

33:41

me regret doing this podcast, please

33:43

He's like no worries. I'm going

33:46

to New York gets to go

33:48

to New York and that's the

33:50

night Mr. Gavin wields his fucking

33:52

knife in the middle of remember

33:55

this When he there was like

33:57

the whole proud boy saying and

33:59

they was wielding you said Gavin

34:01

news. Oh, sorry Gavin so this

34:03

whole time you talk about Gavin

34:06

new some and I'm like no,

34:08

no, let me finish I'm like,

34:10

I didn't know she did, Gavin

34:12

Houston did a podcast. She's like,

34:14

and then Mr. Gavin Newsom goes

34:17

to New York and pulls out

34:19

a knife. I'm like, I don't

34:21

remember this story. I don't remember

34:23

the story, but it sounds good.

34:25

Keep going, please. Gavin Newsom goes

34:28

to New York and pulls out

34:30

a knife. I'm like, okay. This

34:32

is something New York Times will

34:34

tell you about the time Gavin

34:36

News submitted to New York to

34:39

pull that a sword. And I

34:41

looked at him and there's something

34:43

in his eye. I'm like, okay,

34:45

this is getting good. Like, did

34:48

you know he was a sociopath

34:50

man? And then he went to

34:52

New York to pull that his

34:54

sword. And then he cut the

34:56

potatoes. Then he went on a

34:59

murder spree and I helped him

35:01

bury the bodies. A red rum

35:03

spree as the people online would

35:05

say. Uh, Gavin McGuinness, sorry. So

35:07

I go on his body and

35:10

he pulls out his sword. This

35:12

is much less funny and much

35:14

less interesting. It was much better

35:16

than the first time. Oh, yeah,

35:18

McInnes. Now it's kind of not.

35:21

Yeah. Now it's last all of

35:23

its luster. And so I was

35:25

crying in a bathtub. I mean,

35:27

you tell me this. Because I'm

35:29

having the bathtub, just scrolling to

35:32

it, it's like proud boys, and

35:34

they're yelling, running around, yelling, calling

35:36

everyone the F word. I was

35:38

like, maybe I am a handmade

35:41

into Nazis. He's not a Nazi,

35:43

let's be fair. No, no. No,

35:45

I mean that was a joke

35:47

because that's what you get told.

35:49

Sure, yeah. You know, repeatedly when

35:52

you even associate with someone like

35:54

you or anyone who's not, you

35:56

know, on CNN or whatever. NBC.

35:58

And that was the very beginning.

36:00

This was like, I had no

36:03

knowledge at all of anything. I

36:05

was like a little. So I

36:07

wanted to write this book about

36:09

all these things. And I don't

36:11

think that I was alone and

36:14

experiencing now I know from the

36:16

results of this election that this

36:18

has happened to many people over

36:20

the years. And then I tried

36:22

to do another version of it.

36:25

And they were like, oh, I

36:27

don't know about this. It's not

36:29

really, it's too. Like no one

36:31

can relate to your story, then

36:34

Trump wins. And now they're like,

36:36

no, it's too late. 2020, 20,

36:38

20, 2024. Okay. Trump wins. I

36:40

mean, I've been like, we wink

36:42

about that on DevSafire all the

36:45

time. We're like, won't buy it

36:47

in Las. Yeah, first president. Trump's

36:49

the first pressing at like the

36:51

three times since FDR. Yeah. And

36:53

now they're telling me it's too

36:56

late. For my

36:58

story They're like now that book is

37:00

too late. I'm like the book you

37:02

told me for fucking like eight years

37:05

Is this one person or several people

37:07

that this is one person? It could

37:09

be that they don't want to do

37:11

and they're looking for it back door

37:14

out Maybe that's what they do Maybe

37:16

because they would say it's too late.

37:18

They'd say change this and that to

37:20

make it timely Yeah, maybe now I'm

37:22

like fuck it. I'm gonna take your

37:25

advice and just self-published. Yes I don't

37:27

write necessarily for anyone else either. This

37:29

is where I'm at my most self-centered

37:31

and selfish, which is saying a lot.

37:34

I write to try and process something,

37:36

which is what I was trying to

37:38

tell you is how you became, you

37:40

helped me understand like the new right,

37:43

all these things that I just, you've

37:45

been immersed in this for much longer

37:47

than me. Sure. And I just don't,

37:49

what do you think of the new

37:52

right now? Have you noticed all this

37:54

infighting? Well, it's always infighting. I think,

37:56

I mean, this is gonna drop like

37:58

two days after he's inaugurated. I think

38:01

people have to appreciate you have a

38:03

one seat majority in the house. And

38:05

a lot of those people are bought

38:07

and paid for on the Republican side.

38:10

There's a lot of egos and it's

38:12

keeping coalitions together is very very tricky.

38:14

And especially for a lot of people

38:16

who've never had a taste of power

38:19

and they're going to want to be

38:21

the front of the line, it's going

38:23

to get pretty ugly pretty fast I

38:25

think. What other trends do you see

38:28

in the culture? I

38:30

think things are going to get, I

38:32

think a lot of us forget that

38:34

Trump was in office for like five

38:37

minutes. And it's like, all right, Muslim

38:39

ban and people are stuck at the

38:41

airports and they're like, what? And like

38:43

the White House didn't even know it

38:45

was coming? Yeah. And it was this

38:47

complete chaos and then people even know

38:49

how to cover it in the news

38:52

and everyone stranded JFK and the, the,

38:54

the, uh, judges had to overturn things

38:56

down, blah, blah, blah, blah. So. I

38:58

think now there's going to be much

39:00

more of a plan. I think what's

39:02

her name, Pam Bondi today on the

39:05

Senate floor was absolute masterpiece. Did you

39:07

watch her clips? No, I haven't seen

39:09

it yet. Danny Padilla, I think Danny's

39:11

name, the Center for California. He's trying

39:13

to yell at her, but he doesn't

39:15

have his speech ready, so he's reading

39:17

from his notes. And it's really hard

39:20

to see me dignic when you're reading

39:22

a speech. It's like, have you ever

39:24

been a fight with a girl? Like,

39:26

just do what she does. And he's

39:28

like, can you tell me what the

39:30

14th Amendment is? And she's like, I'm

39:33

not here to your homework senator. I

39:35

was like, because it's not a genuine

39:37

question. She was really slamming them pretty.

39:39

Adam Schiff had these questions. She goes,

39:41

your murder rates, like, and whatever, whatever,

39:43

blah, blah, blah. This is what you're

39:45

concerned about. Like, I'm going to prosecute

39:48

Liz Cheney. What are you talking? It

39:50

was really great stuff. This is kind

39:52

of the, I don't have good predictions.

39:54

Yeah. I think I'll be able to

39:56

have them once he's in office for

39:58

like a month or so and things

40:01

start shaking out. Yeah. I meant not

40:03

even necessarily with this administration, just what

40:05

are your like sentences of, like you

40:07

said, there is going to be kind

40:09

of more unorthodox comedy coming back on

40:11

the left and the right. When you

40:13

say you think the center left Democrats

40:16

are going to take more power back, how

40:18

do you think they're going to do

40:20

that? Because I think people who spent

40:22

a lot of time on social

40:24

media like us don't realize how

40:27

culturally leftist this country is. this is

40:29

a country where you couldn't even stop

40:31

trans and kids. Yeah. Right. This is

40:33

something that would have been, about 15

40:36

years ago, laughable by democratic standards.

40:38

Yeah. And now, unless you do,

40:40

we're going to take your kids away

40:42

like that. And it's not being stopped.

40:44

So I think people are so viscerally

40:47

left to center culturally. But

40:49

didn't the Supreme Court rule

40:51

against the... the women and or the men

40:53

and women's. I was talking about sports on

40:55

kids. Sports. Sure. But the point is

40:57

I'm talking about like something as that's

40:59

much less radical like biological males

41:02

swimming and spay males than giving kids puberty

41:04

blockers and cutting up their boobs. This is

41:06

not. If you have to choose people on

41:08

the two, some broads loose, some late races

41:10

and some kids are sterilized, it's not hard

41:13

to make those choice to do those two

41:15

bad choices. But I think just

41:17

culturally people are so broadly speaking.

41:19

anti-racist in a sincere sense, not

41:21

this, you know, Abraham Kennedy says,

41:24

and kind, which is something, you

41:26

know, leftism takes advantage of, that,

41:28

and the Republicans have had such

41:30

a stigma for so long and

41:32

been branded very successfully, and I

41:35

think there's a lot of anger

41:37

and animosity coming from the Republican

41:39

Party, not incorrectly, but this turns off

41:42

Karen. Karen wants things to be

41:44

nice. Karen is angry personally because

41:46

you're upsetting her, right? She wants

41:48

things to be placid and corporate

41:50

and this kind of sacrin veneer.

41:53

So I think there's a golden

41:55

opportunity for, and you brought this up

41:57

on my show, and I thought of it

41:59

independently. As soon as they

42:01

start deporting like one family and

42:03

the video of that mom with

42:05

their kids crying, people are going

42:07

to be freaking out. And they're

42:10

going to be made to freak

42:12

out. If we can freak out

42:14

about kids having COVID, which is

42:16

impossible for them to die from,

42:18

this is real footage, this is

42:20

going to be real footage, and

42:22

people are going to be very,

42:24

very basically angry and upset. I

42:26

completely agree, and it's so weird

42:28

that they won't freak out about

42:30

the, you know, like... I mean

42:32

they said as of Sunday they're

42:34

shutting everything but there's not you

42:36

don't see it yeah and we

42:38

are a visual right country now

42:40

yeah yeah what do you think

42:42

about the tick-tock man I mean

42:45

is it banned I mean they

42:47

said as of Sunday they're shutting

42:49

everything down wait so tick-tock will

42:51

cease to exist by the time

42:53

the stairs allegedly I don't There's

42:55

no way. Really? There's gonna be

42:57

all these digital refugees? Like the

42:59

digital... Like where are these people

43:01

with their millions of followers gonna

43:03

go? The digital content creators have

43:05

no home. They're homeless. Yeah, well

43:07

that's your brand. Politically homeless. Call

43:09

them. They're going to come here.

43:11

My brand is not political home.

43:13

People were so mad at me

43:15

when I voted for Trump because

43:18

I, they're like, we thought you

43:20

were politically homeless. I'm like, I

43:22

still feel politically homeless. It doesn't

43:24

mean that I can't make a

43:26

choice. It's also funny, politically homeless.

43:28

Have you heard the expression, any

43:30

port in a storm? Like if

43:32

I'm homeless, I'll go in the

43:34

cave. Like I don't like this

43:36

cave, but I don't want to

43:38

be outside without the cave. I

43:40

got some shelter, I got, it's

43:42

a little warm, there's some berries

43:44

here. There's a potato. Okay, potatoes.

43:46

I wonder, see, I think your

43:48

version of things is actually coming

43:50

into a scent. What do you

43:53

mean by that? Like, anarchy. Not

43:55

the good kind. Not the kind

43:57

that you imagine. where everyone just

43:59

gets along. I don't imagine that

44:01

at all. I just, it seems

44:03

like you have a higher opinion

44:05

of people in situations. Me? Look

44:07

who you're talking to. I know.

44:09

How do you believe in anarchy

44:11

though? Because the government is what's

44:13

preventing those dads in England from

44:15

getting justice for their kids. Yeah.

44:17

If you had. private security, you

44:19

couldn't get away with this. Yeah.

44:21

Because if there was one company

44:23

that was protecting this for years,

44:26

not only would that company be

44:28

sued to oblivion, everyone who were

44:30

working for it would be dismembered.

44:32

And correctly so. So I do

44:34

think your stuff is on the

44:36

ascent. You know who I was

44:38

talking to? This is really funny

44:40

and it makes sense in retrospect.

44:42

Megan McCain. She's like, all right,

44:44

I get it. burn it all

44:46

down, she's like, I have never

44:48

in my life been so alienated

44:50

from the establishment, and she's like,

44:52

you can't fix this stuff. I'm

44:54

like, okay, if I could get

44:56

Megan McCain, either I'm way off

44:59

or something is happening. But I

45:01

do think that there were a

45:03

lot of people, maybe from the,

45:05

like, tech sector, these libertarian types

45:07

who were somewhat politically homeless, for

45:09

lack of a better word, who

45:11

came over to... vote for Trump

45:13

because they were just so frustrated

45:15

with the the fuck you to

45:17

the left and if there isn't

45:19

any real making good on the

45:21

things that they're saying they're gonna

45:23

be they're just gonna go fuck

45:25

it burn it all down there's

45:27

two points to make here is

45:29

that people underestimate how much Trump

45:31

is up against right like this

45:34

is when you say he's not

45:36

be able to get this done

45:38

this is not an attack on

45:40

him the strongest man on earth

45:42

has a wait he can't lift

45:44

right so even if Trump is

45:46

everything his biggest accolades say he

45:48

is. He is still up against

45:50

an enormous system and edifice. I

45:52

was, it was funny, I was

45:54

talking to Brett Weinstein on Twitter

45:56

and he goes, it should be

45:58

illegal for like the government to

46:00

keep. secrets and I go, who

46:02

would be the one making it

46:04

illegal? And he's like the people.

46:07

And I'm like, through what mechanism?

46:09

And he just put a picture

46:11

of like Trump hugging RFK and

46:13

I almost wrote hugs. But like,

46:15

the whole system, the FBI and

46:17

the CIA. We're waiting for hostile

46:19

tech eight takeovers for decades. They

46:21

have systems in place that is

46:23

someone they can ride it out

46:25

for four years or eight It's

46:27

not going to be hard for

46:29

any bureaucracy to be like stall

46:31

stall stall any lawyer knows how

46:33

to run the clock. Uh-huh. So

46:35

I I think people who are

46:37

Trump supporters should Lower your expectations.

46:39

He's just one person and he's

46:42

up against a lot and a

46:44

lot of people supposedly on his

46:46

team are going to betray him

46:48

like you saw that during his

46:50

first term. Yeah so You should

46:52

be hopeful, but you should also

46:54

be realistic, and that's not a

46:56

reflection on him. And what's the

46:58

second thing? What do you mean?

47:00

You said there are two things.

47:02

Oh, I don't remember. I've got

47:04

full Biden. What? I've got full

47:06

Biden. Okay. Yeah, you said there

47:08

are... people who are supporting a

47:10

magga there to or Trump supporters

47:12

or who have voted for Republicans

47:15

there are two things one is

47:17

you know Trump can't go up

47:19

against this bureaucracy and I don't

47:21

know what the other okay sorry

47:23

yeah burn burn it all that

47:25

yeah that is the I do

47:27

think they'll go just like you

47:29

know full full anarchy I guess

47:31

but you're kind of seeing what

47:33

do you think about this idea

47:35

of like the state controlled you

47:37

know the the the the The

47:39

controlled demolition of a state like

47:41

California. I guess it's not an

47:43

idea. It's a conspiracy. Well, I

47:45

don't understand the question. That this

47:47

dissent into chaos and anarchy. Well,

47:50

it's not anarchy. It's very government

47:52

guided. Government guided. Chaos is intentional.

47:54

It looks like anarchy. Well, no,

47:56

because anarchy, you would be able

47:58

to have anarchy. So they made.

48:00

please correct me from wrong someone

48:02

told me fairly recently that they

48:04

made it basically impossible for

48:06

these insurance companies to insure these

48:08

large homes through some kind of government

48:11

law and the insurance companies polled

48:13

because they said all these trees or

48:15

whatever the brushfire fire it's it's a

48:17

ticking time bomb and they're like too

48:19

bad and they're like all right we're

48:22

not ensuring you right all these people

48:24

who have these gigantic mansions aren't

48:26

getting a penny back we're very little

48:28

ROI well they I don't they has

48:30

a policy, they put it, they

48:32

want, the government wanted them to

48:34

buy their policy. So the government

48:37

has their own fire insurance, but

48:39

it wasn't usually enough, and so

48:41

most people had to get umbrella

48:44

policies. And then I was told

48:46

yesterday, and I don't know if this

48:48

is true or not, that if it

48:50

is arson, it comes under like a

48:53

whole other category. of, oh, that wasn't like a

48:55

brushfire that was started by nature. It was

48:57

arson and now it comes under some, I

48:59

don't know the ends and outs of the

49:01

insurance. Point being in a free market, if

49:03

you had this insurance companies, they would

49:05

do a lot better job of forcing

49:07

safety than the government does because the

49:10

government wants you to be unsafe because

49:12

then they take responsibility and then they're

49:14

selling the insurance. So the screwing in

49:16

the front end by not creating a...

49:18

fire safe environment and the screwing at

49:20

the back end you have to buy

49:22

their insurance and it's not covering you.

49:25

So everyone's screwed, the government maintains power

49:27

in both ends. So if you had,

49:29

like it's like the Tesla and some

49:31

of the cyber trucks, like they're like,

49:33

yeah, you have self-driving, but

49:35

if you're not eyes not on the

49:37

road, you're gonna get, there's some kind

49:39

of. Like demerits, you get. Yeah. So

49:41

that's a great way to make sure

49:43

that the people who are driving are

49:45

actually following the rules, which makes us

49:47

all safer. Right. So, anarchy is about

49:49

private rules. It's not about the law,

49:51

which is often one size fits all

49:54

and makes no sense. Okay. I thought

49:56

anarchy was just chaos. It's not

49:58

chaos. Well, you're seeing tele- The

50:00

more government you have, the more

50:02

chaos you have. Yeah, they're rezoning

50:04

already. Right, and you don't even

50:06

know what the, if you go

50:08

to the creek in the cave

50:10

and you buy your ticket, you

50:12

see a show, right? If you

50:14

go to get a ticket from,

50:16

you plan words, from the cops,

50:18

you know what's going to happen.

50:20

Are they going to put it

50:22

down? Am I going to have

50:24

to go to court? It's a

50:26

whole big process. Yeah. So any

50:29

kind of dispute in a private

50:31

sector. minutes, whereas your issue is

50:33

the government getting audited or something,

50:35

it's years. Yeah, he's doing all

50:37

this weird shit. He, my buddy

50:39

Gavinism. With the sword. Sword-wielding Gavinism.

50:41

He's doing all this stuff today.

50:43

There was an announcement a week

50:45

ago about how he's not allowing

50:47

people to sell their homes to

50:49

speculators. So he's made some wow

50:51

where they can't. But the speculators

50:53

are the ones to take the

50:55

risk. You want that. I feel

50:57

like trying to make it so

50:59

that it can be sold to

51:01

the people they want it to

51:03

be sold to or even more.

51:05

Diabolical and perhaps I wouldn't put

51:07

it past any of these people

51:09

is that they know a lot

51:11

of these people were house-rich They

51:14

can't afford to rebuild. They're gonna

51:16

be paying mortgage on property that

51:18

he's now inflated the value of

51:20

because he's saying you can't buy

51:22

it for less than it was

51:24

worth with the house on it

51:26

Which is fucking crazy because there's

51:28

no houses and now they're gonna

51:30

have to pay taxes on that

51:32

and then the government will take

51:34

their house and foreclose it this

51:36

is all what I was briefly

51:38

reading about it like it's worse

51:40

case scenario and he but it's

51:42

under the guise of like oh

51:44

we're protecting these people it's harder

51:46

and harder for my anarchist brain

51:48

to look at political action and

51:50

not regarded as crime like I

51:52

don't get how people look at

51:54

this and aren't like this is

51:57

literal gangster stuff it but California

51:59

is gang a gangster state yes

52:01

This is why my husband always

52:03

say, like they just take your

52:05

money. It's crazy. They'll shake you

52:07

down. They've been shaking me down

52:09

since I left. Have they really?

52:11

Oh yeah, still for like, like

52:13

taxes here, taxes there, just, it's,

52:15

I'm like, when am I gonna

52:17

be free of this freaking state?

52:19

And I can't imagine what it's

52:21

like for people who took a

52:23

lot of money out of that

52:25

state. Yeah. There I'm sure there

52:27

they have armies of lawyers still

52:29

going after those people for you

52:31

us for this business tax and

52:33

you made X amount of dollars

52:35

so you always an extra $200

52:37

for your franchise tax like it

52:40

is not unbelievable. It's criminal. Yeah

52:42

it's organized I mean Elon says

52:44

it's all the time as a

52:46

government is just organized crime. Well

52:48

yes that's the onicus perspective. Hmm.

52:50

But that's what I'm saying I

52:52

think more people are. are aligning

52:54

with that perspective. I agree with

52:56

you. It's on the rise. Yeah.

52:58

All right. What's your biggest defective

53:00

character? I care too much. Oh.

53:02

Now what's my biggest defective character?

53:04

One of the things I have

53:06

a lot of friends in recovery.

53:08

One things I really appreciate about

53:10

12 step programs is that it's

53:12

like if you have an issue

53:14

with yourself and you can't fix

53:16

it. It's not anyone else's problem.

53:18

And if you can't fix it,

53:20

like create workarounds, like to deal

53:22

with it. I think that's such

53:25

a great aspect of 12-step and

53:27

seeing people, they're much more, even

53:29

more than me, like in terms

53:31

of just like too bad, like

53:33

it's your problem, you know, like

53:35

responsibility. My biggest, so I don't

53:37

believe, I don't like when someone

53:39

is like, oh yeah, you know,

53:41

I've got this issue. Well. Figure

53:43

it out. You know what I

53:45

mean? Like, if there's an issue

53:47

that constantly comes up, and you

53:49

can't even fix it, you can

53:51

at least create workarounds around it.

53:53

You know, that's the thing. So

53:55

I don't like you when people

53:57

are like, yeah, I just have

53:59

this big flaw. What are you

54:01

going to do? that drives me

54:03

crazy, this is like a minor

54:05

one, is like, oh, you know,

54:08

what was your name? I'm really

54:10

bad at remembering names. Well, very

54:12

few people are really good at

54:14

remembering names. So figure it out.

54:16

You know, like, you can't figure

54:18

out, like, you can't be better.

54:20

You can't be like, I'm mediocre

54:22

remembering names. Like, I'm just bad

54:24

at it. Okay, well, figure it

54:26

out. So my biggest defective because

54:28

it serves me. A lot of

54:30

defective character can serve us for

54:32

the record. How is it a

54:34

defect then? Because it's still something

54:36

that it doesn't always serve you

54:38

positively, but it can serve you.

54:40

Like a lot of people will

54:42

say that it ends up being

54:44

like the same thing that's their

54:46

defective characters, they're also their biggest

54:48

asset. Like it's two sides of

54:51

the same coin. So at times

54:53

it serves them and at times

54:55

it's an asset. Well, can you

54:57

give me an example? Caring

55:01

too much. How has that ever

55:03

served anybody? I don't know. I

55:05

think some people feel like that

55:08

it served them. Yeah, I don't

55:10

know. I think that maybe, let

55:12

me try and think of a

55:15

good example of one, but keep

55:17

talking about yourself. I know you

55:19

love that. Like defect. I'm not

55:22

perfect, but I don't think I

55:24

have a huge issues that are

55:26

screwing my shit up. That's what

55:29

I mean. Yeah. So it's hard

55:31

to answer in that regard. Um,

55:33

then when I hear defect, that's

55:36

what I think. I'm like, okay,

55:38

this is like, what would, you

55:40

know, it's funny, some guys go,

55:43

I always think of what my

55:45

wife would say, like, you know,

55:47

I always think of what my

55:50

wife would say, like, you know,

55:52

what I'll ask that question. They're

55:54

like, my wife would say at

55:57

that. Add or improve to iron

55:59

red. philosophy, L-O-L, I go, well,

56:01

you could have contemporary examples

56:03

to help make it easily

56:06

understood by people in the

56:08

present day. I said, go

56:10

be annoying somewhere else. And the

56:13

guy goes, you sound like my wife.

56:15

So, so, go be annoying somewhere

56:17

else. And I got, I unfiled

56:19

him from me. Because I paid

56:21

him, play, like, gotcha. And it's

56:24

just like, here's an obvious counter

56:26

example. Yeah. And even if I'm

56:29

wrong, who cares? You're so good

56:31

on X, though. I have my moments.

56:33

What is my... You know what? I think

56:35

you enjoy being annoying, though. I

56:37

enjoy being dismissive. Yeah, very much.

56:40

You know what? I enjoy being

56:42

dismissive. Yeah, very much. You know

56:44

what it could be? It could

56:46

be I'm a nasty person. And I

56:48

like being nasty. Like Billy Joe

56:50

has this quote. I love people

56:52

rude to me because then I

56:55

can stop pretending to be nice.

56:57

And I just want to, why

56:59

don't drink? And I never let that

57:01

side out other than perhaps on

57:03

social media. Maybe it comes from

57:06

the Russian upbringing, but I

57:08

definitely have a very, very

57:10

dark nasty streak. I have

57:12

a theory. All Russians are sociopaths.

57:14

No, they're not charming at all.

57:16

And sociopaths are, no, I

57:19

think Russians are too emotional. Really. Yeah,

57:21

there's a lot of yelling.

57:23

I don't think sociopaths are

57:25

yellers. When I think of Associate, I

57:27

think someone's like, what's the guy

57:29

from, the guy who killed all

57:31

those women, the good looking one

57:34

from Florida? One from Florida,

57:36

from the 70s, what was his name?

57:38

It looks like, he does look, you

57:40

don't talk about, Eric something, right? Oh

57:42

no, I thought you were talking about

57:44

the character in that movie. No, I

57:47

think Patrick Bateman, no, there's a real

57:49

life guy who killed a lot of, like,

57:51

like, like, a lot of women, sorority

57:53

girls, sorority girls. Maybe what

57:56

we just talked about. I'm sorry.

57:58

How you're very nasty. I'm

58:00

not nasty like that. And I said

58:02

all Russians are sociopaths. Right, so

58:04

he's a sociopath. I don't think

58:07

he's Russian-like in his

58:09

character. Yeah, interesting. That's

58:11

what I think about the...

58:13

Or Gavinusum, I don't think

58:15

he's Russian-like, he's a

58:17

sociopath. Okay. Do you... What's your base

58:20

asset? Quick, I am, I think. You

58:22

are quick. Yeah, it surprises me

58:24

sometimes. And I remember when I was a

58:26

lot younger, I was watching these shows

58:28

like Best Week ever on VH1, and

58:30

it was these talking heads commenting on

58:33

the news of the week, and I'm

58:35

like, I thought to myself, I could

58:37

do this. And I was right, but

58:39

a lot of people at our level.

58:41

So I'm talking to Rogan Peterson, and

58:44

if I'm quicker than them, I'm like,

58:46

okay, not that Rogan Rogan Rog is

58:48

pretty quick, but he's like, he's like,

58:50

he surrounds up with the best people,

58:53

obviously, obviously, obviously, You are very quick.

58:55

It's fun. It is fun. It

58:57

is fun. Do you. It's also fun

58:59

when people come at me.

59:01

Because then when I judo them,

59:03

they don't know what to do.

59:05

Because they didn't expect me to

59:08

have anything. And I have

59:10

it immediately. How do you think

59:13

you're so quick? I don't know.

59:15

Just this. It's just the genetic

59:17

thing, I guess. And always has

59:20

been. Like, since you were young.

59:22

Interesting. Yeah. big hope for the,

59:24

like, did you have goals in this space?

59:27

Were you like, I want to write

59:29

X amount of books and I want

59:31

to be on these podcasts? These are

59:33

my goals. These are my goals. I'm not

59:35

kidding. Okay. No alarm clock. No

59:37

small talk. Never have to interact

59:39

with someone I don't want to.

59:42

That was it. That's my list.

59:44

And supplemental goals would be like,

59:46

I could go to a restaurant, now look

59:48

at the check, travel once in a

59:50

while whatever I want. Bichael collectibles.

59:53

Say there. That's it. I think

59:55

it's very, I think being self-actualized

59:57

is quite cheap. It's a lot.

1:00:00

cheaper than people think, especially when

1:00:02

I have kids. Yeah, yeah. It's

1:00:04

not hard. Yeah. I still wish

1:00:06

you would have a kid. Yeah,

1:00:08

you're not the only one to

1:00:11

say. Brian was telling me that

1:00:13

as well, Ryan Callan. I believe

1:00:15

that. Yeah. He's got kids. He

1:00:17

does. We know. This is true.

1:00:19

Well, where can we find you?

1:00:22

For those of you who don't

1:00:24

know. You should tell them where

1:00:26

to find me. Probably more people.

1:00:28

Go look for Bridget's podcast. Have

1:00:30

you seen it about shuddering Matt?

1:00:33

And you could find her on

1:00:35

stage at the other show. Yeah.

1:00:37

Saturday. The Saturday? Yeah. After the

1:00:39

Sares? You mean in three days?

1:00:41

Oh. No, it'll be... This is

1:00:44

my people that don't know how

1:00:46

to find you for it. Because

1:00:48

you can't even get the plugs

1:00:50

right. There's a chance I'll be

1:00:52

on this Saturday. Okay. No, plug

1:00:55

yourself and your stuff. That's at

1:00:57

trigger.com/Michael Miles Malas. locals.com and YouTube

1:00:59

is Michael Malas official. Thank you.

1:01:01

You are welcome. Love you. I

1:01:03

love you more. The check-in with

1:01:06

Bridget and Cousin Maggie can now

1:01:08

be found at fetacy.com. It's been

1:01:10

titled Another Round with Bridget Fetacy

1:01:13

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