0:00

I'm with Megan McCain everybody. Thank you for

0:02

coming through. I'm with Bridget. I'm so

0:04

sorry I had to reschedule this once

0:06

before because I was starting a new

0:08

show and the time you wanted to

0:10

record was like right before I was

0:12

starting so I apologize I never do

0:14

that and I'm sorry in advance I

0:16

really hate rescheduling on people because I

0:18

have guests on my shows and it's

0:21

really annoying when people have to reschedule.

0:23

I'm sorry. I find that most people

0:25

in the space are actually really

0:27

professional when you book something. There's

0:29

a couple that are not and

0:31

have flaked enough times that I'll

0:33

never book with them ever again,

0:35

but that is very much the

0:37

rarity. That is not, that's not, um,

0:39

and I don't even care because weirdly

0:41

I knew, I, I was wondering how

0:43

that would play out. I saw you

0:46

in, you know, like announcing that you

0:48

had the show coming and you had,

0:50

I knew you had booked with me

0:52

before that show was a thing. So

0:54

I was wondering, I'm like, I have

0:56

a feeling she's gonna have to reschedule.

0:58

So don't worry about it. You owe

1:00

me no apologies. You, oh me, oh

1:02

me no, I know. Tell us about

1:04

your new show, tell us about your

1:06

new show. It's the company called Two

1:08

Way, which I'm excited about that Mark

1:10

Halperin started and it's basically like a

1:12

live interactive YouTube show and it's live

1:15

on YouTube at 5 o'clock on Mondays

1:17

and Wednesdays and I'm going to be

1:19

honest, like YouTube is like not traditionally

1:21

my space. I was telling you offline,

1:23

my audience is like overwhelmingly like 85

1:25

to 90% female and YouTube is heavily

1:27

male. So I'm going to wait and

1:29

see how it turns out, but I

1:31

just, I don't know about you, like

1:33

I'm at this stage in my career

1:35

where I only want to work with

1:37

cool people I like and think are

1:39

intelligent and are respectful and are respectful

1:41

and the people at Two Way like

1:44

checked all those boxes. And I know

1:46

you've been on Mark Halperin show and

1:48

you know. there's an intersection stuff with

1:51

you doing working there too. I

1:53

hope I get to work there. I love

1:55

the show. You know what I liked

1:57

about it? I love being able

1:59

to see the and also being

2:01

on the show at the same

2:03

time, but hearing from people and

2:05

now I've done, I think, two

2:08

episodes. And both times I came

2:10

away thinking about something that I

2:12

hadn't considered before or hearing a

2:14

different perspective a lot. Even in the

2:16

last one I did, I remember everybody

2:19

in the chat was talking about how

2:21

they were worried that their independent,

2:24

their favorite independent podcasters. were

2:26

now captured in the same way

2:28

they felt left-wing media was. And

2:31

it was like a whole side

2:33

conversation happening in the chat that

2:35

I was watching while Mark was

2:37

interviewing one of the other people

2:39

on there. And I thought that

2:41

was really interesting in an important

2:43

perspective for me to see because we

2:46

do get trapped in these little bubbles

2:48

and often don't even realize it. So

2:50

seeing all these people saying that they

2:52

were worried. The same thing was

2:55

happening to independent media

2:57

that happened to mainstream

2:59

media. I was like,

3:01

oh, I can see how I can

3:04

see that. I can see how that

3:06

would be a fear. Are you

3:08

about that at all? I mean,

3:10

you're kind of independent

3:12

media. I mean, your name, but

3:14

you don't, you don't

3:16

work for corporate media.

3:19

Yeah. Everything is so fractured

3:21

now. So I worry. I worry

3:23

that there's a lot

3:25

of things that have

3:28

concerned me even

3:30

just being in

3:32

independent media and seeing

3:34

the way there's so

3:36

many things. It's like

3:38

10 things are happening in

3:41

my brain at once right

3:43

now. I think audience capture

3:45

is real and we all

3:47

have to be aware of

3:50

it. it will happen to

3:52

you without you being aware

3:54

of it. And I would be horrified

3:56

if I had in my mentions a

3:59

lot of people. you know, saying things

4:01

like, oh, yeah, Bridget's finally noticing. Like,

4:03

they are in charge of everything. You

4:05

know, if I started seeing that, I'd

4:08

be like, whoa, I need to, I

4:10

need to, uh, not, I would just

4:12

take a step back and consider the

4:14

audience that I might be cultivating. on

4:17

the other hand I have this other

4:19

thing that happens with people who came

4:21

from the left where it's almost like

4:24

this default but the right like it's

4:26

a knee-jerk reaction you probably experience this

4:28

growing up where it's like well I'm

4:30

gonna criticize the left but the right

4:33

and it's like it's almost like a

4:35

tick like a like and I've had

4:37

to see that in myself where the

4:39

left can be mutilating children and they

4:42

can be going as far burning down

4:44

Tesla is doing pretty much whatever they

4:46

want and people will have to qualify

4:49

it with but the right no matter

4:51

how far the left goes and you

4:53

can go pretty far left in America

4:55

and suffer absolutely no consequences for it

4:58

and the minute you go an inch

5:00

to the right it's suddenly too much

5:02

and even the center left will kind

5:04

of run left again. And so that's

5:07

like you're not invited to any cool

5:09

party. You can't go on any cool

5:11

show. You can't where you do get

5:14

blacklisted like in a way like it's

5:16

like you don't get like I've been

5:18

I've like done the line of books

5:20

I used to work in corporate media

5:23

now I don't and like if you

5:25

are even a little bit conservative especially

5:27

in like you just like. have perspectives

5:29

that aren't totally ideologically progressive. Like that's

5:32

still very real. And my my fear

5:34

is like if Trump isn't in power

5:36

or you know at whatever the next

5:39

president isn't Republican like I think the

5:41

anger and rage toward people who didn't

5:43

bend the knee to progressives is going

5:45

to be like a tsunami. I think

5:48

like if the left ever gets in

5:50

power again I think they're going to

5:52

like want redemption from quite frankly people

5:54

like you and me first which is

5:57

yeah and that's unsettling and this this

5:59

thing that's kind of happening right now

6:01

the fracturing in our media there's there's

6:04

been one of the things that's been

6:06

that pushed me to the right was

6:08

the unsettling amount of anti-Semitism I was

6:10

seeing coming out of the left, coming

6:13

out of institutions on the left and

6:15

kind of cloaked in intellectualism. And then

6:17

I see everybody worrying about it on

6:19

the right. It's a real fear, but

6:22

I don't know that it's a real...

6:24

Like, how is this somehow worse than

6:26

what we've seen on the left where

6:29

it is literally in our institutions? But

6:31

again, that knee jerk reaction is like,

6:33

oh, we see a little bit of

6:35

this, we better but the right. And

6:38

nobody's ever saying but the left. You

6:40

will not hear that. You won't say,

6:42

you know, the right has a problem.

6:44

Well, the right might have this like

6:47

burgeoning problem with some. Nazis who really

6:49

have no power whatsoever, but the left,

6:51

you don't hear that. It's like the

6:54

deep, the ideology is always to kind

6:56

of excuse what's ever happening on the

6:58

left and to worry more about what's

7:00

going on on the right and it

7:03

doesn't feel valid. So I think the

7:05

over correction that happened in our media

7:07

was to that reaction of calling everybody

7:09

a Nazi. of labeling anybody who I

7:12

mean they were labeling moms who were

7:14

talking and in we were talking about

7:16

this today because Trump came out and

7:19

he was saying I'm gonna you know

7:21

maybe I'll label these people domestic terrorists

7:23

who are like throwing Molotov cocktails at

7:25

Tesla shops and whatever and everybody's like

7:28

oh and I guess now if we

7:30

protest you get labeled a on domestic

7:32

terrorist on MSMVC and it's like you

7:34

guys, you labeled moms who were pushing

7:37

back against men and women's bathrooms domestic

7:39

terrorists. And who didn't want to vaccinate

7:41

their kids? Who didn't want to vaccinate

7:44

their kids? Yeah. I don't want to

7:46

hear it. Like one of the things

7:48

that's been interesting for me because obviously

7:50

I'm like a lifelong Republican is I

7:53

was actually just thinking about this this

7:55

morning like remember when binders full of

7:57

women with Mitt Romney was like the

7:59

greatest defense and he was called a

8:02

Nazi and you know I remember this

8:04

when my dad was running for president

8:06

Congressman John Lewis may he rest in

8:09

peace he was a icon in his

8:11

own right in the civil rights movement,

8:13

but he compared my dad to David

8:15

Duke and the head of the Ku

8:18

Klux Klan for daring to just run

8:20

for president against the first black nominee

8:22

for president, or yeah, Democratic nominee for

8:24

president. And you know, I always, my

8:27

husband said this when I first met

8:29

him, sometimes when you cry wolf enough,

8:31

the beast does show up. And I

8:34

think it just stopped being effective. I

8:36

get called. horrific things all the time

8:38

and I'm like okay I'm I'm a

8:40

Nazi because I don't want biological men

8:43

competing against my daughters and sports okay

8:45

like that's a ridiculous thing to say

8:47

but I think part of the toothlessness

8:49

of the left right now is that

8:52

they've just been so histrionic for so

8:54

long about things that were small when

8:56

sometimes there are things that are big

8:59

that we should all justifiably call out

9:01

anti-Semitism in any form obviously but they

9:03

just don't care about it on their

9:05

side so they when they're calling it

9:08

out on the other side, that's why

9:10

I think it carries less ammo. It's

9:12

interesting to me for, I mean, I've

9:14

wondered what it's been like for you

9:17

in the culture wars because you've had

9:19

such a front seat to all of

9:21

it your entire life. How has that

9:24

shaped your and I mean, you've been

9:26

very open about your almost like personal

9:28

vendetta against rightfully Trump and How have

9:30

you managed that as someone who has

9:33

I think a lot more insight? information

9:35

and just being someone who's been battered

9:37

by it and taking like people taking

9:39

shots at you for since you were

9:42

a kid. Yeah I mean it's it's

9:44

weird because I feel like I have

9:46

the most like like the most intense

9:49

like you can really say almost anything

9:51

to me and I don't care. Like

9:53

people have, there's a pretty famous parody

9:55

of me by a comedian named Tim

9:58

Dillon who I think may or may

10:00

not be your friend, which is like

10:02

the most unflattering portrayal of me ever

10:04

done. It's like I'm obese and screaming

10:07

and I think there's something about how

10:09

I want to like have sexual relations

10:11

with my parents. Like it's pretty disgusting.

10:14

And I remember when it first came

10:16

out just like being so confused. Like,

10:18

is this how people see me? unflattering

10:20

portrayal of me with 80 Bryant of

10:23

all things we went to the same

10:25

high school and I always just thought

10:27

it was weird to like be parodied

10:29

by someone that like came from the

10:32

exact same place that I did but

10:34

whatever. So I think for me it's

10:36

like I've experienced so much that's so

10:39

ugly and gross and when this goes

10:41

up like on your YouTube people will

10:43

just be like she's a fat disgusting

10:45

con she's a fat disgusting con like

10:48

that's what I'm told every day since

10:50

I was basically like 22. So it

10:52

just doesn't really like impact me the

10:54

same way. But when it comes to

10:57

like the political culture part of it,

10:59

it's been so uncool to be a

11:01

Republican forever, basically up until this last

11:04

year and a half, two years into

11:06

COVID, a couple when people started realizing

11:08

how draconian the left can be. And

11:10

I've really been enjoying having a long

11:13

history publicly of not being on the

11:15

side of the other side of like

11:17

censorship and hysteria and I just find

11:19

like a lot of people on the

11:22

left to be really disconnected from reality

11:24

and like represent the HR department and

11:26

like I don't really like I have

11:29

liberal friends who I love dearly but

11:31

like I don't want to go socialize

11:33

with like a group of Democrats if

11:35

I had the option to just because

11:38

I find them like, like the last

11:40

time I hung out with a Democrat,

11:42

the term safe space was used to

11:44

me and I was like, I just

11:47

can't do this, like I can't do

11:49

this. And Trump has really made him

11:51

and the culture, the culture war that

11:54

like preceded him. It's been fascinating for

11:56

me to be on the cool kid

11:58

side for the first time in my

12:00

entire life. Yeah, that's been very surprising

12:03

to me as someone who grew up.

12:05

in the night, I don't ever remember

12:07

a time in history when the Republicans

12:09

were cool or the right wing was

12:12

cool culturally and the way, you know,

12:14

they've had power here and there, but

12:16

what do you think that that shift

12:18

means just moving forward? Do you think

12:21

it holds? I mean, I think that's

12:23

like the $64,000 question. I think as

12:25

long as Democrats keep acting insane, even

12:28

just like John Federman voting for this

12:30

bill to keep, there's a bill presented

12:32

to keep biological men out of women's

12:34

locker rooms and women's sports, like he

12:37

voted against it. And it's like, as

12:39

long as you're just so far off

12:41

on culture war issues, and you think

12:43

that like, I thought the most effective,

12:46

impactful political ad, maybe like the past

12:48

10 years, was Trump's saying vice president

12:50

Harris is for they them I'm for

12:53

you. I just think as long as

12:55

they keep taking that side I think

12:57

we will continue to be on the

12:59

cool side that being said my big

13:02

like like red flag is if the

13:04

economy tanks and these tariff wars end

13:06

up being disastrous I don't think anything

13:08

else will matter in the same way

13:11

and I'm getting a little nervous right

13:13

now like I just am like I

13:15

don't know about you but like even

13:18

like aluminum tariffs make me uncomfortable Yeah,

13:20

I was I was thinking about this

13:22

and joking about this on dumpster fire

13:24

today where I was like, you know,

13:27

normal Americans don't really care about the

13:29

culture war stuff. They don't care who

13:31

likes or hates Tesla's when their retirement

13:33

portfolio is tanking. They just don't. That

13:36

will be the thing. they care about

13:38

the most and there were so many

13:40

weather vain voters in this last election

13:43

myself included someone who voted for Hillary

13:45

in 2016 and nobody in 2020 and

13:47

Trump in 2024 that there's a lot

13:49

of those people and they'll just swing

13:52

back I mean I could probably never

13:54

bring myself to vote for Gavin Houston,

13:56

but then again I said that about

13:58

Trump. So who knows what future Bridget

14:01

will do. Certainly not me. When you

14:03

announced you were voting for him, I

14:05

remember when you did. Yeah, I did.

14:08

I did. No effect. Like I follow

14:10

your work and I was like, you

14:12

don't think it would be that shocking

14:14

to people that she decided to vote

14:17

for Trump. It wasn't, it was, it,

14:19

yeah, I mean, I've joked like future

14:21

Bridget, like future Bridget loses, loses, loses

14:23

her mind. If I had told her,

14:26

but I did get a lot of

14:28

backlash from, but a lot of people

14:30

were like, oh, we never, you know,

14:33

the usual kind of suspects were like,

14:35

oh, this is the least surprising thing,

14:37

this person who's, you know, said that

14:39

they were in the center actually is

14:42

voting for Trump. And I still don't

14:44

identify with the conservative party a lot

14:46

of the time. And I certainly don't

14:48

identify with whatever the left. wing party

14:51

has become either. And I, just because

14:53

I voted for Trump and made a

14:55

decision, doesn't, I've never been full magga,

14:58

you know, there, I'm just not, there's

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16:33

look at you and I'm like. you

16:35

take, when you talk about the abuse

16:38

you take online, why do you still

16:40

do it? Was there ever kind of

16:42

like a dark night of the soul

16:44

for you when you really were like,

16:47

I can't do this anymore and I'm

16:49

not? The height of the view, I

16:51

was like, I just can't do any

16:53

of this anymore. I can't live in

16:56

New York anymore. I can't work with

16:58

these kinds of people anymore. I don't

17:00

even know if I want to do

17:03

this anymore. I felt like I was

17:05

really losing myself. is hosted, produced, created,

17:07

staffed, except for like two lighting guys,

17:09

completely by progressive, I mean like, to

17:12

this day, the most progressive left-wing people

17:14

I've ever met in my entire life,

17:16

like, like, like, obscenely progressive to the

17:18

point that, like, you know, the reason

17:21

why you can live this kind of

17:23

lifestyle, because the only thing you ever

17:25

do is go to and from, you

17:28

know, ABC Studios to the Hamptons and

17:30

back, like, that's her whole life existence.

17:32

Then you spend $900 at Siderrella and

17:34

dinner and everything is fine. I felt

17:37

like... I was just really trying to

17:39

do my job there and represent women

17:41

like me. And the show was doing

17:43

incredibly well, like critically and ratings wise,

17:46

but I felt like the better it

17:48

did, the worst treatment I got like

17:50

in the studio and then out in

17:53

the world. And there was just a

17:55

certain point that I was just like,

17:57

nothing is worth how I feel every

17:59

day. You know, nobody feels, I don't

18:02

feel bad for myself, like if I

18:04

couldn't handle like my life and talking

18:06

and speaking for money and like, you

18:08

know, being a political commentator, I wouldn't

18:11

do it. I'm really at a point

18:13

in my life that I really don't

18:15

give a fuck what people think of

18:18

me like at all. But I do,

18:20

I don't want, I don't know if

18:22

you feel this way, I'm like very

18:24

protective of some of these like baby

18:27

commentators coming up, these like young girls,

18:29

like, I do not want them to

18:31

experience, to experience, to experience, anything that

18:33

I have. and I'm any part of

18:36

it. I don't know if I can

18:38

control that, but like I just interviewed

18:40

Mary Margaret Ollahan, who's the White House

18:43

correspondent for the Daily Wire, and she's

18:45

really smart and pretty and cool. And

18:47

I was like, I hope to God

18:49

no one ever puts the kind of

18:52

bio on her that was done to

18:54

me at a young age. And I

18:56

don't feel bad, but like I think

18:58

all women who came up in the

19:01

2000s. in media or not. Like there's

19:03

definitely a different kind of treatment for

19:05

us than there is now. You know

19:08

what I mean? How good. Like one

19:10

let's say, how fat I am was

19:12

discussed by Keith Oberman on his show

19:14

and he and Joel McHale, the comedian,

19:17

ranked how hot I was. Oh wow.

19:19

Like, that just wouldn't happen now. And

19:21

I'm sorry if I'm like filibuster. it's

19:23

you know no no to you bridge

19:26

it no this is it's funny I

19:28

see all these memes that are like

19:30

I cannot imagine being a woman in

19:33

the 2000s and it's always like like

19:35

the they'll talk and I don't think

19:37

I even knew realize that because I

19:39

was just a wash in it but

19:42

they're like those memes and reels that

19:44

go around where it's like this was

19:46

considered morbidly obese and like two thousand.

19:48

Like one of the most gorgeous women

19:51

ever I know it's crazy it's crazy

19:53

or like Brittany Spears when she was

19:55

getting called fat was like a normal

19:58

size it is yeah there was something

20:00

recently on Twitter going around that was

20:02

it was a viral tweet or it

20:04

was like I would have killed myself

20:07

I had been a woman in the

20:09

2000 and I guess maybe it's just

20:11

everyone. But I was like, I've been

20:13

like purging in my garage and purging

20:16

baby stuff and whatever. And I found

20:18

all these, my dad made us like

20:20

little photo books every year for Christmas.

20:23

I was his thing. And they were

20:25

all from 2001, 2000. And I'm like,

20:27

and maybe this is just everyone. But

20:29

I was like, oh my God, I

20:32

thought I was, I thought I was

20:34

fat. At that like in that time.

20:36

And it was the early 2000. I

20:38

also came from like, I mean, my

20:41

grandmother was very, I think that like

20:43

the fat shaming was also just like

20:45

in our family. My grandmother was very

20:48

old school, like, you know, almost like,

20:50

weighed herself every day, made sure that

20:52

she was never photographed pregnant, just greatest

20:54

generation. Cultural, like I think that was

20:57

just like bashed through their brain and.

20:59

It's really incredible like any of us

21:01

are like alive without eating disorders and

21:03

like living in any way because it's

21:06

you know it's a pretty toxic time

21:08

for so many women for so many

21:10

yeah and you were in the I

21:13

just I can't imagine being so, having

21:15

to be forced to be so public.

21:17

That is, that, that, I just don't

21:19

know what that's like. I don't know

21:22

what that does to you as a

21:24

young, you know, developing brain to be,

21:26

you didn't choose to be in the

21:28

family you're in and now you're, this

21:31

is why I do think that's, that

21:33

when people are like, yeah, you don't

21:35

get to like make fun of politicians

21:37

kids, they didn't choose this. Well, I

21:40

make an exception for Hunter, whatever that's

21:42

worth. I think people will make fun

21:44

of him all day long. I think

21:47

for him. He's an adult now, though.

21:49

He's not a child. The amount of

21:51

people that were like. He's been through

21:53

a lot and he has he should

21:56

have compassion for him and I was

21:58

like there is a certain point where

22:00

you have Autonomy over your decisions and

22:02

your life choices and like you know

22:05

bad stuffs happen to everybody that doesn't

22:07

mean that you steal That might have

22:09

been in your teens, but this is

22:12

a grown man. I don't know I

22:14

mean when I say children like when

22:16

when you're a kid even I'll give

22:18

you a I'll stretch it even to

22:21

your early teens and maybe early 20s

22:23

That's pushing it though. Because at a

22:25

certain point, you're making decisions on your

22:27

own. I mean, you didn't have to

22:30

become a public figure after you were

22:32

like a child and grew up, like

22:34

you said. I think you're good at

22:37

taking responsibility for the fact that you're

22:39

still doing this and don't have to

22:41

and choose to. I, um, when I

22:43

was growing up, my parents made it

22:46

really fun. Like, I always thought politics

22:48

was, like, so fun. And it was

22:50

a really different time. Like, journalists were...

22:52

much cooler really believed in the concept

22:55

of off the record. There was just

22:57

like a lot more collegiality I think

22:59

even with candidates. So I came up

23:02

in like a golden era and my

23:04

dad was considered very cool for a

23:06

very long time because he almost beat

23:08

President Bush in 2000 when he ran

23:11

for president the first time and that's

23:13

when like people started calling him the

23:15

Maverick and like he hosted Saturday Night

23:17

Live and so he was like a

23:20

beloved figure in a different way. didn't

23:22

experience this like ugliness until I left

23:24

college and he ran for president the

23:27

second time and that's when it like

23:29

got a little intense but even then

23:31

like I was just like having fun

23:33

and supporting him and then after he

23:36

lost I was like I had to

23:38

get a job and the only thing

23:40

I know how to do is talk

23:42

about this kind of thing that's like

23:45

my skill set. And then it kind

23:47

of like just went from there and

23:49

you know it's funny like if I

23:52

could get in a time machine like

23:54

I don't know if I would do

23:56

this over again but I feel very

23:58

grateful and very blessed and very privileged

24:01

because there's so many people I know

24:03

I'm sure you do too that don't

24:05

have the opportunities in Apple Baby does

24:07

that don't have you know the security

24:10

you know of being an apple baby

24:12

that I did and it's not like

24:14

you know when I was 23 and

24:17

it didn't work out my parents are

24:19

gonna like let me be homeless and

24:21

I just know so many people who

24:23

are such incredible writers and such incredible

24:26

hosts that really had to grind a

24:28

lot harder than I did in the

24:30

beginning so I never I really try

24:32

not to bitch about things as much

24:35

as possible because it's pointless and yeah

24:37

You know, and if this is fun,

24:39

I mean, it's fun to like talk

24:42

to people like you and I meet

24:44

them, I'm sure you do, like I

24:46

meet the best people and like, especially

24:48

with the women in this industry and

24:51

the anti-woke, center right, whatever category we're

24:53

in, like you're the coolest checks. Like,

24:55

I just find the coolest women like

24:57

this affinity in the sisterhood that, you

25:00

know, I don't know you that well,

25:02

but like you're certainly included in and

25:04

I just love an anti-woke strong independent.

25:07

woman who like doesn't bend the knee

25:09

to anything. It's really cool. Yeah, it's

25:11

been. Why do you why do you

25:13

feel compelled to still do this stuff

25:16

in those moments when you say I

25:18

want I maybe wouldn't have done that

25:20

if I could go back in a

25:22

time machine. What why? Why would you

25:25

feel that way? And what what else

25:27

would you do? If anything? The time

25:29

machine is just because the media's landscape's

25:32

changed so much. It was again, like,

25:34

I think a lot more respectful, a

25:36

lot, there's a real, like, you know,

25:38

it's very intense, like whenever I, I

25:41

don't know, I'm sure people ask you

25:43

advice, like if I want to get

25:45

into this, whatever, and it's like, there

25:47

are certain things that you, I know,

25:50

like X plus Y equals Z, like,

25:52

I know how I can get 100

25:54

million views on this, like, you know,

25:57

video right now for us, and I

25:59

can like, count out a him and

26:01

women shouldn't never have the right to

26:03

vote. Like there are things you can

26:06

do that X plus Y equals Z

26:08

that you can like explode in this

26:10

industry, but I prefer to take every

26:12

issue case by case and be more

26:15

nuanced about it. And it's just like

26:17

it's not going to get you the

26:19

giant contract and all the views and

26:22

whatever. But I say that, but then

26:24

again, like I don't really know what

26:26

I would have done instead of this.

26:28

And then I'm sorry, what was your

26:31

second question? Oh, just why do you

26:33

feel the way, is it just the

26:35

landscape is so different that with the

26:37

knowledge you have now going back? You'd

26:40

be like, don't do it. I mean,

26:42

you get a lot of earned media

26:44

though, I will say people kind of

26:47

hang on whatever it is you say

26:49

it seems like I saw something in

26:51

people about just a couple days ago

26:53

come through my feed that they were

26:56

talking about what you were saying. And

26:58

maybe it was about Megan Markle or

27:00

something. I don't know. I was, I

27:02

was like, all the Megan's talking about

27:05

the Megan's. Yeah. Good segment on that

27:07

as well. I mean, maybe I wouldn't

27:09

undo it. I say that it's just

27:12

not, I mean, life's never what you

27:14

think it's going to be, but. just

27:16

mean. Like this industry is just very,

27:18

it's much more mean than I, that's

27:21

why I like, I think I feel

27:23

so protective of some of the people

27:25

coming up, but I still do it

27:27

because I've taken breaks before where I'm

27:30

like, you know, like after I left

27:32

the view, I was like, I'm getting

27:34

out of the industry, I'm going to

27:37

like, political consulting and whatever. And then

27:39

something will happen in the news and

27:41

I'm like, I need to talk. break

27:43

but I took like a little break

27:46

in the summer when Biden did the

27:48

you know had his horrible debate and

27:50

then personally ended up connecting with two-way

27:52

because I was like messaging workout for

27:55

and I was like I need to

27:57

talk about this with people I need

27:59

to talk about how scary this is

28:02

we have our president's brains mashed potatoes

28:04

I need to talk to you so

28:06

and I find the sources and sharing

28:08

and you know meeting people and like

28:11

I don't know because I'm also you

28:13

know I'm a ham I love a

28:15

camera too. Yeah. It's funny. I've said

28:17

that, like, I'm like, I just want

28:20

enough money to, like, not have to

28:22

ever tweet again. And it's like, Bridget,

28:24

you would be Elon. A billion dollars.

28:27

You would still be running your mouth

28:29

on Twitter. What are you talking about?

28:31

And I think you probably do this,

28:33

just maybe in like a different studio.

28:36

I don't know. I think that's all

28:38

I want. When people go, okay, what's

28:40

your five year plan? I'm like, I

28:42

really just want to glow up. That's

28:45

it. I'm pretty much doing everything. When

28:47

I'm living 100% living the life of

28:49

my dreams, and I was one of

28:52

those people who had to like wait

28:54

tables and have side gigs that and

28:56

go work on weed farms or like

28:58

whatever to try and keep going forward.

29:01

But when I, when I, and there's

29:03

so many things that I'm doing that

29:05

I never would have guessed that I'd

29:07

be doing because they didn't even exist

29:10

when I was conceiving of being a

29:12

creative. And I was on Will Kane

29:14

show actually this week and he was

29:17

like, how many shows do I have

29:19

to plug before I get to? I've

29:21

had a lot of work coming. You

29:23

do have a lot of caught, I

29:26

mean it's really impressive, the amount of

29:28

work you do. I've had a lot

29:30

of people who are much wealthier and

29:32

much smarter than me tell me that

29:35

I need to focus on one thing

29:37

and I did not become a creative

29:39

to do. that might be that might

29:42

be that might work it's probably really

29:44

good advice and it will it probably

29:46

works for people who are a little

29:48

bit more military about their just more

29:51

like athletic about the way they treat

29:53

their life and job usually men my

29:55

husband's another one who's like if you

29:57

look at his side of our bedroom,

30:00

it looks like I live with someone

30:02

in the army and my side looks

30:04

like a teenager lives there, like there's

30:07

clothes on the floor, my nightstand no

30:09

matter what I do, always just looks,

30:11

I don't know how he gets his

30:13

to look so neat and orderly. They

30:16

have less things, men don't need kind

30:18

of stuff. No, I have no excuse.

30:20

I, and he... So I think there's

30:22

just like a bit of an ADD

30:25

quality that I probably have and I

30:27

have so many ideas I mean people

30:29

are like oh you're doing so much

30:32

I'm like yeah and I'd be doing

30:34

three times this if I had resources

30:36

and teams and money like there's shows

30:38

I want to make there's another podcast

30:41

I would be doing so much more

30:43

there's an empire of content within me

30:45

and I am only limited by how

30:47

many people I have working on it

30:50

and being having like my partner for

30:52

all of things creative my and my

30:54

cousin Maggie she really like rained me

30:56

in her basic rule is like okay

30:59

let's get this going let's get that

31:01

plate spinning then we will decide if

31:03

we can add and so it's oh

31:06

she's always kind of holding me back

31:08

from being like I want but but

31:10

I'm also the one that will be

31:12

like I know when to strike if

31:15

the iron's hot on something and I

31:17

and I think sometimes you just have

31:19

to take that leap and make it

31:21

work. But yeah I like I like

31:24

like like my asking like if you

31:26

someone just said here's you know 40

31:28

million dollars like what is your dream?

31:31

want to create? I would want to

31:33

do everything I'm doing and I would

31:35

just want a better studio, better lighting,

31:37

like I would want someone who could

31:40

do my makeup. Yeah, I just would

31:42

want help and I would want to

31:44

be I don't want a team that

31:46

could put clips out so that they

31:49

were more in the news cycle or

31:51

always slightly behind it, like just better

31:53

camera. I really don't want and then

31:56

I would want to make my fiction.

31:58

I write fiction too and I have

32:00

I wrote because before I ever did

32:02

any of this I wanted to write

32:05

and like television shows. So I have

32:07

all these ideas for television shows, scripts

32:09

that I've written, worlds I've created with

32:11

Maggie and I would I would go

32:14

make those. Like if someone gave me

32:16

40 million dollars and I would make

32:18

my greeting cards, which was the original

32:21

idea for all of this, which was

32:23

for dysfunctional families. So I would just

32:25

do this better and I would do

32:27

a lot of the like scripted stuff

32:30

that I want to do. I have

32:32

like an idea for an animated short

32:34

that I want to make and I

32:36

haven't or actually two animated shorts and

32:39

yeah, so I would do. I would

32:41

just, I like being creative. I, this

32:43

is what I was saying to Will.

32:46

I'm like, why, we have no, like,

32:48

this is crazy to me that there

32:50

are no gatekeepers. That we just can

32:52

like make, anyone can do this and

32:55

they can, they can start a podcast

32:57

and it might not be great and

32:59

it might not be perfect and you're

33:01

going to learn a lot of lessons

33:04

along the way, but there's really, you

33:06

don't need that much money to like,

33:08

to get going. We started walkins welcome

33:11

with. one board and two mics and

33:13

it was audio only and it's it's

33:15

like the and people have told me

33:17

to give up on it and they've

33:20

told me to shudder it because it

33:22

doesn't get as many views because it's

33:24

not it doesn't get as many views

33:26

as dumpster fire on YouTube it gets

33:29

downloads but it doesn't get as because

33:31

we started it as an audio but

33:33

you know people are and people are

33:36

like why don't you shudder that It's

33:38

like the just focus on one thing,

33:40

we're confused. I get this note from

33:42

different platforms that I host all my

33:45

content on. They're like, you have too

33:47

many things. It's too confusing to your

33:49

audience. Is anybody saying that to Bill

33:51

Maher though? Because he has a podcast

33:54

and a show and I just, I

33:56

don't think there's anything wrong with, you

33:58

know. being ambidextrous and having different platforms

34:01

like I think that's a very linear

34:03

way of thinking. Also not everything is

34:05

for everyone so some people really love

34:07

walk-ins welcome and dumpster fire just isn't

34:10

their thing which is fine and some

34:12

people really love my writing and don't

34:14

like any of the other stuff that

34:16

I'm doing and that's fine. What when

34:19

you talked to like all the women

34:21

in your audience did they come from

34:23

were they your audience before the view

34:26

or was it primarily from the view

34:28

that you captured this whole female audience?

34:30

I think it was, women have always

34:32

sort of like, like I'm not a

34:35

guy's girl, like I'm not a whole

34:37

kid, like bro podcasters don't like me,

34:39

like I don't like tend to get

34:41

asked to go on like even like

34:44

male panels that often. And I think

34:46

it's because I'm not skinny and when

34:48

I was very young I think there

34:51

were a lot of women that saw

34:53

like Oh, like I look like Bacon,

34:55

like I'm not skinny either, like I

34:57

always say like I look like every

35:00

other like woman from Phoenix, like I'm

35:02

not, like I'm a very like all-American

35:04

average girl woman when I'm 40. And

35:06

so I think that happened and then

35:09

I think on the view, the view

35:11

audience is like, same thing, it's like

35:13

85%. if not more, I mean, it

35:16

might be like 100% female. And I

35:18

just don't think like, it's actually something

35:20

like, I wish I could work on

35:22

because I don't really understand why men

35:25

don't like my work. Like it's incredible,

35:27

I even got married to a man.

35:29

Like, it was a one man that

35:31

was interested enough when I had to

35:34

say to marry me, because like, I

35:36

just, I don't know what it is,

35:38

but and sometimes I find like, I'm

35:41

not. So I don't know, but I'm

35:43

trying to work on it. I do

35:45

have gay men, pretty significant gay male,

35:47

what's left of like the straight or

35:50

the men are gay. So, you know,

35:52

I'm happy for that. I'm grateful for

35:54

that audience. What do you think is

35:56

most pressing for your female audience from

35:59

what you can tell? Oh my gosh,

36:01

culture war stuff is huge. Still economy.

36:03

Yeah, because there's a lot of moms

36:06

that were like, you know, like told

36:08

that... schools are no better than you

36:10

when it comes to anything from gender

36:12

stuff to what they're going to teach

36:15

you and we're going to lock your

36:17

kids down forever. The economy. I think

36:19

there's just like a feeling like that

36:21

Democrats have completely lost the plot. And

36:24

if you think about it, there aren't

36:26

a lot of people, I would say

36:28

like men or women on the left

36:31

that are relatable at all. Like I

36:33

saw this morning at Mayor Pete said

36:35

he isn't going to run for Senate

36:37

and I was just like, who is

36:40

pushing Mayor Pete who got zero percent

36:42

of the black vote. Zero when he

36:44

ran for president. Now I don't remember

36:46

for president Bridget and you have neither.

36:49

I sure as fuck think I get

36:51

more than zero. Like and I just

36:53

am like, I don't understand why Democrats

36:56

are so weird. Yeah. So I think

36:58

that's part of it too is like

37:00

I'm many things I don't think I'm

37:02

like weird like that. I don't think

37:05

you're weird like that. Like we're not.

37:07

like him, but the idea that he's

37:09

going to be like the thing that

37:11

saves the Democrats from this is hilarious.

37:14

No, we were talking about Gavin actually

37:16

today on dumpster fire because I was

37:18

like, do not underestimate that man. I

37:21

know people will say like, America doesn't

37:23

have the taste for him and blah,

37:25

but I'm like, doesn't matter if in

37:27

four years the economy hasn't like, if

37:30

four years nothing's really better. There are

37:32

a lot of people and he can

37:34

figure out how to moderate in four

37:36

years, which that guy, I've seen his

37:39

podcast, is savvy enough to do. a

37:41

psychopath who knows how to just psychopath.

37:43

He knows how to survive. The guy

37:46

is a psychopath and he has incredibly

37:48

well-honed political survival instincts. He is podcasting

37:50

surrounded by a burning rubble. I know.

37:52

I don't understand why his constituents aren't

37:55

pissed because you're just burned down and

37:57

you're doing interviews with you know Charlie

37:59

Kirk and Michael Savage and... to see,

38:01

think Steve Bannon, but Charlie Kirk wrote

38:04

this whole article about like, same thing

38:06

like, underestimate him at your peril. No.

38:08

But I just, like, I would. I

38:11

would have all I would pick almost

38:13

any I can't right now there's no

38:15

one I can come up with maybe

38:17

they exist but like I would literally

38:20

probably roll the dice with AOC over

38:22

Gavin Newsome because Gavin Newsome would let

38:24

America burn to the ground and be

38:26

like oh sorry like I'm gotta go

38:29

to the French laundry like I think

38:31

he's like I think he's out of

38:33

his fucking mind a crazy person yeah

38:36

and I don't buy it but you

38:38

and I are like paying very close

38:40

attention and there's people that you know

38:42

they can't because they're working and they've

38:45

They're living and have to pick with

38:47

their kids and stuff. And if he

38:49

can manipulate himself so much, like I

38:51

just, I mean, I really fear that.

38:54

I don't know about you, but I

38:56

fear him. Oh, I joke all the

38:58

time that if he ends up being

39:01

the primary candidate for 2028, which I

39:03

think he will, I will have to

39:05

become like an activist and be knocking

39:07

on doors like you cannot let this

39:10

man. I'll join you. We were joking

39:12

to the end of the fire. I'm

39:14

like, not satisfied with destroying California. Gavin

39:16

Newsom has set his sights on America.

39:19

No, it's like, his state is a

39:21

sewer. I went to LA for work

39:23

like a year ago, a little less

39:26

than a year ago, and I'm not

39:28

just saying it's so conservative or whatever,

39:30

but like, the state of Los Angeles.

39:32

It's so bad. What he has done.

39:35

So. and allowed. And by the way,

39:37

the poor people of Los Angeles who

39:39

have been psychologically manipulated and gas lit

39:41

into thinking that this is how they

39:44

should live when they're paying that amount

39:46

of taxes, I think he would make

39:48

an attempt to do that to America.

39:51

I would really have to move to

39:53

like a full blood red state district.

39:55

I don't, I'm not a person's gonna

39:57

like leave America. you know, nuclear blast

40:00

or something, God forbid, but like I

40:02

would have to move where I'm living

40:04

now because I'm in Virginia, which is

40:06

like a swing state and like I

40:09

would be like, no, I need more

40:11

safeguards in place. But I don't think

40:13

the American public is that dumb, but

40:16

Bridget, I'll join you. I'll give money.

40:18

I'll knock doors. I'll do anything any

40:20

fun. Again, make AOC for president 2028,

40:22

like I will roll the dice with

40:25

her versus him. I fucking hate. He's

40:27

terrifying. He's terrifying. He should be. He

40:29

is terrifying. He is terrifying. I was

40:31

saying this. Like from a science fiction

40:34

movie. I was saying this on Twitter.

40:36

I'm like, you cannot compete with that

40:38

level of shamelessness, bottomless money, and serial

40:40

killer charm. It is like, he is

40:43

dangerous. But who likes him? There's somebody

40:45

someplace, like I don't understand why he

40:47

survived the recall in California. Yeah, after

40:50

the state was locked down and he

40:52

went to the French laundry He has

40:54

a podcast and his state just burned

40:56

down and he decided to start a

40:59

podcast I don't mean to laugh is

41:01

really awful, but it's like, how? And

41:03

like, Californians, like, why are you like

41:05

this? Like, if someone treats me like,

41:08

shit, I'm such a fighter, I'd be

41:10

like, the hell you are, like, I'm

41:12

getting revenge and, you know, you wronged

41:15

me. And people in California, like, well,

41:17

it's fine. Like, well, it's cool. He'll

41:19

have a podcast. My cities and ashes.

41:21

who would still vote for Karen Bass

41:24

now. And I was like, I don't

41:26

think we can continue talking politics. anymore

41:28

because I just didn't, we were able

41:30

to vote for Karen Bass again, lady

41:33

who was in Ghana and then came

41:35

back and was like, oh, this city

41:37

burned out. Like, what is, I just

41:40

don't, I don't get it. Other than

41:42

I think a lot of Democrats are

41:44

very like psychologically abused by their party

41:46

and just don't, just like. They have

41:49

Stockholm syndrome. They can't, there's no, I

41:51

gave up on it. I think there

41:53

were so many times where. after 2020

41:55

I was like surely the surely there

41:58

will be a pivot to the like

42:00

being more red and there was not

42:02

at all and I was like I

42:05

got to get out like they're like

42:07

charge me more pay more taxes I'll

42:09

give you all give you 80% of

42:11

my money I'll just keep I just

42:14

it is and people that live in

42:16

LA like I have friends who live

42:18

in LA and I just think like

42:20

I love them dearly and they're very

42:23

nice people and they're good people but

42:25

I think something might be psychologically wrong.

42:27

I get literally loved. I would never

42:30

to pay that amount in taxes. Like

42:32

the last time I was in LA,

42:34

they were like, I was staying at

42:36

hotel and I was jet-lagged, I wanted

42:39

to go get a coffee like up

42:41

the street and the concierge was like,

42:43

I don't know about you walk in

42:45

alone. I was like, just like one

42:48

block up in West Hollywood, like this

42:50

is, you know when we get raped

42:52

raped and like okay, like it just,

42:55

I don't get it at all. Sorry,

42:57

I know you still live in LA.

42:59

I don't. I know you used to,

43:01

right? Yeah, no, I left. I mean,

43:04

Austin is left to Texas, right? Yeah,

43:06

we're not, we're outside of Austin. We

43:08

couldn't do, Austin's a little bit like

43:10

LA. It's like little LA in some

43:13

ways. There's a lot of the same

43:15

problems. I mean, especially like around 6th

43:17

Street and. the downtown area. There's still,

43:20

it's still a very blue city with

43:22

a lot of the blue problems, but

43:24

it's not, you can still get out.

43:26

outside of it, you could not in

43:29

California, you just couldn't get outside of

43:31

the blue. It was, because it just

43:33

was everywhere, just came from the top

43:35

down there, and it was just, I

43:38

remember there were so many moments where

43:40

I was like, well, this is it

43:42

for me here, but I had a

43:45

friend come visit. And we were walking

43:47

in downtown. We were walking in Santa

43:49

Monica. She was like. It reminds me

43:51

of Brazil. I was like, okay, time

43:54

to go. Because there was just like

43:56

poverty and homeless people in front of

43:58

all of these very wealthy mansions. She's

44:00

like, oh, this, she was like, this

44:03

smell. It reminds me of Brazil and

44:05

it was just like yarn and garbage.

44:07

Murder wreaked hospitals of the planet, but

44:10

okay, like, Brazil's not safe at all.

44:12

No. So like, weird about people in

44:14

LA too, it's like, there's obviously like,

44:16

like, the most woke most liberal people

44:19

ever but a lot of them are

44:21

living in these like McMansions and like

44:23

you know whatever the hills or Brentwood

44:25

or whatever and it's like it's fine

44:28

as long as the people rotting on

44:30

the street are I can't see it

44:32

like as long as I put a

44:35

big enough whatever like trees around or

44:37

whatever and there's something I find so

44:39

like hunger games about it. Like we're

44:41

fine in here as long as like

44:44

the poor homeless people or someplace else

44:46

and like that's disgusting too like you

44:48

just don't. Like, I don't know, this

44:50

is, I didn't mean to turn this

44:53

into the Let's Shit on LA show,

44:55

but, you know, it's easy to do.

44:57

It feels, it started feeling to, have

45:00

you ever been to Cape Town? No,

45:02

have you? Yes. I know it's dangerous

45:04

there too. It's very dangerous, and it's

45:06

lots of very wealthy people behind gates

45:09

in a city with a lot of

45:11

poverty and crime, and LA more and

45:13

more and more started feeling a lot

45:15

like Cape Town towards the on there.

45:18

And every one of my neighbors who

45:20

is very liberal built a literal wall

45:22

around their house. I was like, I

45:25

don't have the money to protect myself

45:27

from this like you guys do. So

45:29

I think a lot of. people in

45:31

LA, they can. Again, it's a little

45:34

bit like Cape Town. Beautiful environment, beautiful

45:36

weather. If you have enough money, you

45:38

can insulate yourself to a certain amount

45:40

from it, from a lot of the

45:43

problems. But also, they just start to

45:45

normalize stuff that is completely bonkers. I

45:47

still have family there. I was there

45:50

right before the fires for New Year's

45:52

this past year. And I was walking

45:54

with my family member, we went for

45:56

a walk around Santa Monica and we

45:59

were headed up Wilshire and I was

46:01

like, is it okay? Because Wilches could

46:03

be a little dodgy sometimes. And she

46:05

was like, yeah, it's fine. And then

46:08

there's a crazy person standing on the

46:10

street with their back to us and

46:12

I see two security guards kind of

46:15

walking our way and I, my hair

46:17

stood up on the back of my

46:19

neck and I was like, oh, this

46:21

guy seems crazy just from the way

46:24

he was standing in the middle of

46:26

the middle of the middle of the

46:28

middle of the street. And we just

46:30

kept walking and the security guards are

46:33

like, hey, move on, keep moving to

46:35

the beach to the guy. And then

46:37

he starts yelling at them, yelling at

46:40

us. And they were like, we're just

46:42

going to escort you ladies because he's

46:44

been screaming at women. And they're like,

46:46

head towards the beach. I'm like, so

46:49

you're just going to like relocate this

46:51

clearly mentally deranged man to like go

46:53

harass the women at the beach because

46:55

he wasn't a cop. And he's like

46:58

screaming at them. He picks. He picks

47:00

picks them. He picks them. He picks

47:02

them. He picks them. He picks up

47:05

a bottle. He picks up a bottle.

47:07

He picks up a bottle. He picks

47:09

up a bottle. He picks up a

47:11

bottle. He picks up a bottle. He

47:14

picks up a bottle. He picks up.

47:16

He picks up. He picks up. He

47:18

picks up. He picks up. He picks

47:20

up. He picks up. He picks up.

47:23

He picks up. He picks up. He

47:25

picks up. He picks up. He picks

47:27

up And she, my family member was

47:30

like, oh, I'm like, who are those

47:32

guards that just came out of nowhere?

47:34

Yeah. And she said that the city

47:36

was hiring, and I don't know if

47:39

this is true if it was the

47:41

city or if it was private businesses,

47:43

but someone's hiring private security to guard

47:45

the Third Street promenade. They're like the

47:48

city's hiring private security guards for third

47:50

street. I'm like don't they have police?

47:52

Like what are you living with? Like

47:55

this is the most insane thing I've

47:57

ever heard and you're just on a

47:59

walk like this is totally normal. They're

48:01

just like frogs and boiling water. Your

48:04

friends that are still living there, what

48:06

reasoning or family, do they, they gift

48:08

for staying? I mean, work. life, weather,

48:10

always weather, you know, the weather here

48:13

is not good enough for me. Okay,

48:15

like, there are full four seasons in

48:17

Virginia and it's like lovely to experience

48:20

that. Yeah. Like, I do not need

48:22

to live in Peter Pan Never Never

48:24

Land where the weather never changes. Like,

48:26

I always think it's a weird answer.

48:29

Like, you don't have to move to,

48:31

like, Michigan. Like, there are lots of

48:33

other places on the country. I think

48:35

it's just like, like, there. I do

48:38

remember when I would be living there

48:40

and the even things like the fires

48:42

those fires were very devastating they were

48:45

all around you and they couldn't avoid

48:47

them but I do remember when the

48:49

news would be covering something like a

48:51

fire and my family members would be

48:54

like are you okay and you're like

48:56

I'm going to yoga I didn't I

48:58

don't even know what's going on and

49:00

I think there's a lot of that

49:03

there was People were relocated to the

49:05

Ritz Carlton who lost everything and it

49:07

was like, there was like a war

49:10

vibe, you know, they were all hanging

49:12

out and partying and having like their,

49:14

their displaced from the, at the Ritz

49:16

from, and I don't know, they just,

49:19

I think there is. there's you just

49:21

keep going no matter I wonder how

49:23

many people are going to leave like

49:25

the palisades like I wonder how many

49:28

people were on the fence what percentage

49:30

of people just don't rebuild or just

49:32

sell there a lot and say cash

49:35

out there were a lot of people

49:37

who are waiting for their kids to

49:39

go to college you know people who

49:41

wanted to leave but we're like all

49:44

right if you're kidding that way right

49:46

that he like I think he stays

49:48

because his kids I believe I think

49:50

so too and I think you know

49:53

you've it's it's tough I get it

49:55

we left family behind I mean my

49:57

my mother-in-law lives there and I left

49:59

and came here and had a one-year-old

50:02

and no support and didn't really realize

50:04

how much you need that support when

50:06

you have babies and it was isolating

50:09

but I also was like I don't

50:11

know how to make these decisions like

50:13

that objectively I'm giving daughter a better

50:15

life just by getting her out of

50:18

this environment, aside from social reasons, just

50:20

going for walks with her was terrifying.

50:22

It suddenly was not just worrying about

50:24

me. I'm like, what am I going

50:27

to do if some crazy homeless person

50:29

starts coming at me and now I

50:31

have a newborn? You know how it

50:34

is? You're so raw when you're in

50:36

that space and everything looks different and

50:38

Mama Bear suddenly starts seeing the world.

50:40

Like, what am I was in the

50:43

car? stuck under an overpass where all

50:45

the homeless people were and some guy

50:47

was wielding a bat around next to

50:49

me and she was on that side

50:52

of the car and I was like

50:54

if this guy Shatters her window I

50:56

am going to be in prison for

50:59

homicide like vehicular homicide what and I

51:01

felt so powerless and I was like

51:03

I don't have to live like this

51:05

Yeah, this is a choice. I'm choosing

51:08

to live like this. And that was

51:10

for, you know, there were many moments

51:12

like that that outnumbered the support we

51:14

had from our family. Yeah, that were

51:17

legitimately terrifying. Just, yeah, no one I

51:19

know that hasn't like been in LA,

51:21

New York too, to a degree, although

51:24

I don't find New York quite as

51:26

bad as LA, at least just in

51:28

my anecdotal experience. It's still bad, but

51:30

like. I felt really unsafe in LA

51:33

and I'm not like a daisy. Like

51:35

I can, I lived in New York

51:37

for like 16 years, like I can

51:39

handle it, but like I felt really

51:42

unsafe in LA in different areas and

51:44

New York there's like some spots of

51:46

it, but I don't think it's like

51:49

quite as bad, but I was not

51:51

writing the subway when I just went

51:53

to New York. Some of that was.

51:55

Yeah, it does seem like a lot

51:58

of it as subway oriented. Yeah, I

52:00

mean those videos and things that go

52:02

around around on Twitter and things that

52:04

go around on Twitter and Instagram are

52:07

pretty. Great. I don't think I'd be

52:09

comfortable riding this. I don't care if

52:11

that makes me a pussy. I just

52:14

don't need someone to like masturbate on

52:16

my leg, trying to get down. You

52:18

know what I mean? But that's why

52:20

I stopped like going to the beach

52:23

though. It was crazy. It was crazy

52:25

in LA during lockdowns. I mean, Venice

52:27

was literally taken over and it just

52:29

became full on encampments. And it was

52:32

really wild. It was very, and it

52:34

started feeling pretty dystopian to me in

52:36

like 2017. And I think we're seeing

52:39

this in a lot of American city.

52:41

So I do, I do wonder if.

52:43

You know pulling out of LA San

52:45

Francisco is even worse. I do wonder

52:48

if it is just that America is

52:50

in decline and we're just you generally

52:52

see it in the cities first It's

52:54

certainly possible. I don't think I'm enough

52:57

of like an anthropologist to analyze that

52:59

but I do feel like at least

53:01

in my little like bubble that I

53:04

live in like there's a lot more

53:06

of like I feel like the community

53:08

would like not put up with the

53:10

same kind of shit that again like

53:13

for whatever reason I just don't understand

53:15

this and I need someone smarter than

53:17

me to analyze this and explain it

53:19

to me and like do a TED

53:22

talk on it or just like make

53:24

a speech why are liberals abused by

53:26

their leaders and accept it like I

53:29

just know that like if there was

53:31

a you know whatever if the crime

53:33

started spiking in my neighborhood like there

53:35

would be like starting with me like

53:38

I would be at town halls being

53:40

like the fuck it is like let's

53:42

do everything we can and you know

53:44

if not like I know not everyone

53:47

can leave cities like I know there's

53:49

like certain financial you know limitations with

53:51

certain people which I certainly understand and

53:54

and respect but I really hope America

53:56

isn't in decline it's a really interesting

53:58

question I think in some ways we

54:00

really are and I think in some

54:03

ways we aren't and the only the

54:05

big way I say that we aren't

54:07

is like you travel to foreign countries,

54:09

I've traveled to foreign countries and America

54:12

dominates everything like culture, entertainment, power, politics,

54:14

you know, no shade, but I just

54:16

like recently found out who the Prime

54:19

Minister of the UK was, granted, he

54:21

was just like recently elected when he

54:23

came here and I have a friend

54:25

who lives in the UK and she's

54:28

like, it's so exciting he's there. And

54:30

I was like, I don't really, like,

54:32

you guys give a lot more flux

54:34

about Trump than I give about you

54:37

guys. Like, no offense. Like, America dominates

54:39

everything, everywhere. So that's my only like

54:41

pushback that like in so many ways

54:44

we're still a superpower. We're still a

54:46

superpower. that the cities are like the

54:48

canary of the coal mine. Yeah, I

54:50

mean, but even when Rome was still

54:53

a superpower and it was still expanding

54:55

and fighting wars all over the place,

54:57

it's cities started declining. You know, I

54:59

think, I think like you see the

55:02

rot internally first before it, it becomes,

55:04

before it loses its superpower stature. I

55:06

would, I would use superpower if it's

55:09

not us, is it China? I mean,

55:11

I guess like the theory that some

55:13

people have positive to me is that

55:15

it will be more of a balanced

55:18

superpower where you have like the Americas

55:20

and then North and South America and

55:22

like Asia, China and kind of the,

55:24

your, Russia, I get, you know, like

55:27

the Russia, China, There would be some

55:29

tri- tripart, what do they call it?

55:31

There's some term for it that I'm

55:34

not smart enough to know. I don't

55:36

know. I mean, this is also the

55:38

theory of why, you know, zooming out,

55:40

you would want Greenland and Canada to

55:43

be a 51 state and like you

55:45

would need to have that short up

55:47

once. once we get into this, you

55:49

know, I love how Greenland was like,

55:52

we're not mad at the idea. Well,

55:54

did you see? They were like, we're

55:56

open to it. Like, I'm sure. Yeah,

55:59

have you been in LA? I've not

56:01

been to Greenland. but I was just

56:03

making me laugh that they were like,

56:05

we're certainly open to the cost. And

56:08

then I was like, oh my God.

56:10

And Canada is like, you know, I

56:12

don't really want Canada. Like Canadians are

56:14

so annoying. I just heard maybe this

56:17

is, maybe this is not accurate, but

56:19

I just heard that they have like

56:21

80 planes. That's it, like in their

56:24

whole military. There's like, oh wow. Or

56:26

something. And it's like, why do we

56:28

want them? Canadians are so annoying. No

56:30

fun. It sounds terrible. It sounds terrible.

56:33

I find like the Trudeauiness of it

56:35

all just very insufferable. So I'm like,

56:37

do we want Canada? What's your biggest

56:39

criticism that you get from your, from

56:42

people? Is it that you're like a,

56:44

I feel like I've seen, what is

56:46

it, are you a Neocon? Do you

56:49

get that a lot? I mean, I

56:51

used to, up until I think me

56:53

going so hard for my friend, Elsie

56:55

Gabbard, that seems to have like, hated

56:58

some of it. And also like, like,

57:00

you know, like, very hawkish, but I

57:02

don't think any millennial who watched me

57:04

personally, my brothers, go deploy like a

57:07

billion times. That's an exaggeration. I think

57:09

it's like 15 times, 10 times. It's

57:11

a lot. And the first time my

57:14

brother Jimmy did it, he was 17

57:16

and I was 19. And it's just

57:18

like my permeating like coming into my

57:20

you know adulthood memories are like between

57:23

my brother's deployments like I don't think

57:25

anyone can experience that and be like

57:27

you know what I trust everybody in

57:29

power to lead us into wars. So

57:32

I think like that certainly always like

57:34

you know said to me I'm not

57:36

isolationist like I don't think like you

57:39

know America shouldn't play a role when

57:41

like tyranny is happening but think again

57:43

everything is by like a case-by-case situation.

57:45

I think it's just like Nepobabe spoiled.

57:48

fat's a big one. I'm a big

57:50

fat fat fat. I'm the 600 pound

57:52

lady on TLC. Like that's everybody's favorite.

57:54

It's just I'm just so fat and

57:57

disgusting. And it's funny because sometimes I

57:59

think like the most radical thing I've

58:01

ever done is just like not go

58:04

on a zimpic because like it doesn't

58:06

bother me. It bothers a lot of

58:08

other people like how I doesn't, I

58:10

don't know what's wrong with me, like

58:13

there's something wrong with my brain, but

58:15

like, I'm not insecure and I don't

58:17

feel like I'm this hideous school. No.

58:19

No, I'm like, I don't know what

58:22

everybody's fucking problem is. It's like, everybody

58:24

has to be anorex sake or a

58:26

size zero in order to be like

58:29

accepted, and I don't know, I don't

58:31

give a shit. Because I grew up

58:33

with like the super models like Cindy

58:35

Crawford and all and Al McPherson. They

58:38

weren't like super, they were skinny, but

58:40

they weren't, they were pretty muscular. And

58:42

then the waves came along and I

58:44

saw this, I think it was the

58:47

documentary, the document, did you watch that

58:49

documentary about the super models like Cindy

58:51

and was it good? It's. I loved

58:54

it because I grew up with them,

58:56

but one of the things that really

58:58

struck me was how the designers, the

59:00

male designers, were getting insecure and jealous

59:03

of how much attention the women were

59:05

getting because they became celebrities in their

59:07

own right. And then this was right

59:09

when the USSR fell apart and all

59:12

of the waifs came and they were

59:14

like these kind of nameless faceless skinny

59:16

girls from Eastern Europe. and they started

59:18

dominating the runways in the wave trend

59:21

because they were just basically like racks

59:23

and they couldn't speak English so they

59:25

couldn't over like they couldn't be bigger

59:28

stars than the clothes. Wow. I was

59:30

like that's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. But

59:32

what do you think about that? So

59:34

this ozemic thing kind of reminds me

59:37

of living through that weird trend where

59:39

it was like these very, I never

59:41

was insecure about, you know, people are

59:43

like, oh, you grew up with the

59:46

super models and you'd be insecure. I'm

59:48

like, they just, they were amazing. They

59:50

were so powerful and they were creating

59:53

their own empires. I was like, this

59:55

is crazy that you can do this

59:57

and be a model and have like

59:59

your own. and Empire and I never

1:00:02

was looking at myself like I'm not

1:00:04

good enough I was like wow they

1:00:06

they seem like anything is possible and

1:00:08

then it shifted into like faceless

1:00:11

thin just being like super

1:00:13

skinny there's some people that

1:00:15

are obviously just naturally thin

1:00:17

and beautiful and that's wonderful

1:00:19

I think the thing I

1:00:21

worry about is like like I am

1:00:23

the most big pharma questioning person. Like

1:00:25

I'm sort of a maha mom, like

1:00:28

at this point, like COVID really radicalized

1:00:30

me in a lot of different ways

1:00:32

when it comes out. I'm not Nancy

1:00:34

Vax or my children are vaccinated, but

1:00:37

I definitely question like a magic shot

1:00:39

that's going to fix all my problems.

1:00:41

And for me, I just like, did

1:00:44

we learn nothing in COVID? Like, he's.

1:00:46

places and these companies have a financial

1:00:48

incentive to keep you like on this

1:00:50

shot. And I get that there's like

1:00:52

people that really need it and have

1:00:55

like, you know, obese people that it

1:00:57

has changed our lives and all these

1:00:59

things. I just think the sad part

1:01:01

for me is like, I do think

1:01:03

we're like entering back into this like,

1:01:05

what are they called, like, heroin chic

1:01:07

era? Just like having girls. Like I

1:01:09

would ball you and I both have

1:01:11

daughters. You and I both have daughters.

1:01:13

Like it's just, I don't want it

1:01:15

for them. you know, being like, I lost all

1:01:17

this weight and her like, you know, music's

1:01:20

all about like, and not that, you

1:01:22

know, she's maybe unhealthy before, I don't

1:01:24

know, but it's just interesting that even

1:01:26

she, you know, was like, if I can take

1:01:28

this drug, the thing that pisses me off

1:01:30

is like, she takes Ozempa, or did she work

1:01:33

out? I mean, I'm assuming it was Empa,

1:01:35

but I don't think she has admitted it.

1:01:37

Hmm. Hmm. But it's even like, you

1:01:39

know, Mindy Kaling being like, I've

1:01:41

just been hiking. And it's like,

1:01:43

I don't believe you. And again,

1:01:45

it's fine, like, whatever. Oh, that

1:01:48

is. You get in Hollywood's got

1:01:50

to be hard, but like, I

1:01:52

just don't believe you. Sorry. And

1:01:54

that's my choice. Like, I just

1:01:56

don't believe it. So I know it's

1:01:58

a weird, a weird time. Yeah. I'm just

1:02:00

much less susceptible to, I think it'd

1:02:02

be very hard if you were like in your

1:02:04

formative years. Yeah. I remember when

1:02:07

I learned in LA that my friends were

1:02:09

getting Botox like in their early 20s. I

1:02:11

was like, what? Why? You don't even need

1:02:13

it. But there's like the preventative thing and

1:02:15

I was like, that's supposed to be like

1:02:18

bullshit though. And it's why like the Z

1:02:20

years look older than us is because like

1:02:22

this like this is a Tik. So, you know,

1:02:24

back to me. But like, apparently they

1:02:27

look so much older because they've been

1:02:29

like, it's like the Kylie Jenner effect,

1:02:31

like they've been putting injections in

1:02:33

their face, and you don't need it

1:02:36

when you're in your, I don't think

1:02:38

people need it ever, but like in your

1:02:40

20s and stuff, and I just like,

1:02:42

I have a, I'm not going to

1:02:44

get, I don't want her to be

1:02:46

upset, but someone I'm related to who's

1:02:48

young and she was getting Botox at

1:02:50

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:02:52

like, like, like, again, it's like poison

1:02:55

in your face, like, I don't know.

1:02:57

Do you spend a lot of time on

1:02:59

Tik Tak, at night? I'll spend like

1:03:01

20 to 30, I know you're like

1:03:03

against the China, the China thing, but

1:03:05

I get really good ideas for content

1:03:08

off Tik Tak, and there's like trends,

1:03:10

like that lady who went to Pakistan,

1:03:12

like. like looking for her husband. Did

1:03:14

you see this? There's like this woman

1:03:16

who went to Pakistan. Oh my god,

1:03:18

you have to go away. And she

1:03:20

was doing all these press conferences like

1:03:22

asking the country of Pakistan for money

1:03:25

because she went there because she had

1:03:27

like catfish to Pakistani guy and the

1:03:29

family like fled the country. But like.

1:03:31

Pakistan, he's like really embraced her and

1:03:33

they were like really kind of her.

1:03:36

So it like ended up being kind

1:03:38

of like a good PR for Pakistan.

1:03:40

Anyway, I was obsessed with that story.

1:03:42

I really thought that story was going

1:03:45

to end with and then she got

1:03:47

raped and murdered. Like sent home, I

1:03:49

believe it had to go back to

1:03:51

New York. But it was just like

1:03:54

funny, she's doing all these like press

1:03:56

conferences and like, this does not sound

1:03:58

funny, I'm not explaining. And then it's

1:04:00

like, it's not bad. So, I don't

1:04:03

know. But I know it's like bad

1:04:05

for me and they're probably spying on

1:04:07

me on it. Yeah, I mean, I

1:04:10

saw so many grown women, this was

1:04:12

kind of surprising to me, and they

1:04:14

were posting all these videos of them

1:04:17

being in, you know, part of it

1:04:19

was like tongue in cheek and joking

1:04:21

where they'd be like in trained spotting

1:04:23

like pain from detoxing off, tick talk

1:04:26

when it was down for like 12

1:04:28

hours. And I was like, okay, I

1:04:30

got this from my like teen nephews

1:04:33

and nieces and whatever, like the young

1:04:35

kids, okay, fine. But I'm like, you

1:04:37

have children. What are you doing? How

1:04:39

are you? I get, I mean, I

1:04:42

understand like the dopamine addiction and I

1:04:44

think Elon knew this when you bought

1:04:46

X. Everybody is hooked on it. It's

1:04:49

like, it's I've said this since I

1:04:51

got hooked on it and like really

1:04:53

badly in 2013. It is, I know

1:04:55

I'm sober. I'm sober. I know a

1:04:58

drug when I see it. I like

1:05:00

try and we... I literally just figured

1:05:02

out basically how to cook meth in

1:05:05

my garage when I started dumpster fire.

1:05:07

Like I gave myself an excuse to

1:05:09

be on Twitter all the time. Like,

1:05:11

well, I need it for dumpster fire.

1:05:14

So I figured out how to like

1:05:16

monetize my addiction. Well, I could get

1:05:18

rid of TikTok and Instagram and everything

1:05:21

very easily. If you're like wipe that

1:05:23

from your phone today, Megan, fine. Twitter

1:05:25

would be a little harder. I like

1:05:28

Twitter. I know it's like crazy and

1:05:30

a mess and like insane but there's

1:05:32

so much news that breaks on there

1:05:34

and you know sometimes something happens like

1:05:37

a zoom deck like a you know

1:05:39

the guy that masturbated the CNN guy

1:05:41

Jeffrey Tuben. Oh yeah. Masterbating on the

1:05:44

zoom and like everybody's just talking about

1:05:46

zoom deck on Twitter for like a

1:05:48

full 48 hours and it's like that's

1:05:50

the kind of stuff I like. experiencing

1:05:53

online. You're like, just troll the shit

1:05:55

out of a pervert. Like, you know.

1:05:57

So I like Twitter, but I know

1:06:00

it's addictive. I know it's bad for

1:06:02

you. But that, Twitter went down yesterday

1:06:04

or day for yesterday for like four

1:06:06

hours. And I was like, damn, I

1:06:09

really look at Twitter a lot on

1:06:11

my phone, like between things. So that's

1:06:13

the one. And it's not good for

1:06:16

you. And I should, I've tried to

1:06:18

quit, excuse me, X, many times. And

1:06:20

that's the one that, like I said,

1:06:22

Instagram, everything else. Threads, I'm not on

1:06:25

threads, but like I've given up Twitter

1:06:27

for Lent multiple times in my life

1:06:29

and I've had to like write about

1:06:32

it, but it does, I mean it

1:06:34

was funny, everybody, my friend texted me

1:06:36

the funniest tweet, she was like, is

1:06:39

Twitter, she was like, is X down

1:06:41

for everyone or just the Jews? Oh

1:06:43

God, oh God. She's true. She's like,

1:06:45

I can't get on Twitter. But she

1:06:48

was like, I have been so productive,

1:06:50

it does make me question like me

1:06:52

why I'm spending time on there. And

1:06:55

even my husband, he was like doing

1:06:57

all this stuff around the house. I

1:06:59

was like, oh, X is down. Well,

1:07:01

okay, in defensive X, I will say

1:07:04

one thing. I had to get a

1:07:06

mammogram and then a mass biopsy to

1:07:08

my breast right before Christmas time, and

1:07:11

the whole experience was horrible and petrifying.

1:07:13

And if I need my brain, not

1:07:15

thinking about a mammogram, and I think

1:07:17

literally when they were doing the procedure,

1:07:20

I was like holding my phone looking

1:07:22

and like. I was like, sometimes social

1:07:24

media serves a benefit because your brain

1:07:27

is in another sphere, you know, so

1:07:29

I will say that I was so

1:07:31

glad I had social media on my

1:07:33

phone in that. I'm fine, it was

1:07:36

benign, but. Okay, I was gonna ask

1:07:38

that. I know you have to go.

1:07:40

Where can we, what's your biggest defect

1:07:43

of character? Is that like, what's the

1:07:45

bad thing about me? Yeah, like what

1:07:47

do you struggle with? What's your biggest,

1:07:50

you know, aside from a vice being

1:07:52

like Twitter, I don't know. Mine, like

1:07:54

mine is, I'm very spiteful, one of

1:07:56

many is like I'm very spiteful and

1:07:59

I will, I'm, I will freaking hold

1:08:01

on to like, like if somebody slights

1:08:03

me or whatever, I will hold on.

1:08:06

on to it. I'm like, revenge is

1:08:08

a, it's not great. It's a bad

1:08:10

defective character, but I'll like hang on

1:08:12

to it. No, I think that's mine.

1:08:15

People, I do not wish ill on

1:08:17

people, but people who have fucked me

1:08:19

over and hurt me and enjoyed hurting

1:08:22

me. Like, I don't, like, I don't

1:08:24

wish bad things on them. I'm just

1:08:26

like, like, like, I just, like, like,

1:08:28

You know, a woman I used to

1:08:31

work with who was not that nice,

1:08:33

his husband has a big RICO case

1:08:35

against her. I thought that was pretty

1:08:38

interesting, you know, the most unkind people.

1:08:40

So it's like, stuff like that, that's

1:08:42

not a great quality. I should be

1:08:44

a better Christian. It's not good at

1:08:47

all. But I don't like... you know

1:08:49

it's not like I'm like doing anything

1:08:51

it's just more when like bad things

1:08:54

happen I'm like oh like karma came

1:08:56

back to you so that's probably a

1:08:58

bad part of me I don't exercise

1:09:01

nearly as much as I should I

1:09:03

can be very tunnel vision with like

1:09:05

political things like when I have made

1:09:07

a decision about how I feel sometimes

1:09:10

it's it's normally very hard to move

1:09:12

the way move me in a different

1:09:14

direction and I can make judgments about

1:09:17

people like if you're someone who's men

1:09:19

in sports like I Think a little

1:09:21

less of your intelligence and that's probably

1:09:23

not a more kind thing to do

1:09:26

But I can be swayed like I'm

1:09:28

also like Like you know I have

1:09:30

an attention span of a hamster. So

1:09:33

like if something else happens I can

1:09:35

like just move on and find something

1:09:37

else, but a millennial in you what

1:09:39

what is your biggest asset? Oh my

1:09:42

gosh I am the most loyal rider

1:09:44

die friend, like I am the person

1:09:46

you want in your zombie apocalypse fan.

1:09:49

Like I am extremely loyal to the

1:09:51

people I love, I would know how

1:09:53

to keep secrets, I will never fuck

1:09:55

people over that I love, I will

1:09:58

really show up, I really know how

1:10:00

to show up for people. And I

1:10:02

think it's just because like in politics

1:10:05

that's so rare. So I think that's.

1:10:07

it. And I think I'm a good

1:10:09

mom. Like motherhood has been something we

1:10:12

bonded over. It's been something I didn't

1:10:14

really want and then when it happened,

1:10:16

I've been so happy I decided to

1:10:18

do it because it's like the best

1:10:21

part of my life by far. I

1:10:23

love it. I feel you. Every day

1:10:25

is just the, it's the best part

1:10:28

of my day. That little, those sweet

1:10:30

little faces. And they're so excited to

1:10:32

see you. Yeah. So. Where can we

1:10:34

find you? You can find me on

1:10:37

X. And then you can find me

1:10:39

on two-way and that's just like on

1:10:41

YouTube if you go to the two-way

1:10:44

is literally the number two way. And

1:10:46

then I have a podcast called Citizen

1:10:48

McCain and you can find me on

1:10:50

sub stack too like everybody else. Do

1:10:53

you have a sub stack? I do.

1:10:55

I didn't know you have one. I

1:10:57

just launched when I got talked into

1:11:00

it by like the sub stack people

1:11:02

and some stacks again like you know

1:11:04

one of the reason why I like

1:11:06

X because it's an audience that likes

1:11:09

me like it's a like a place

1:11:11

where I can cultivate an audience and

1:11:13

like sub stack it's like you know

1:11:16

it's it's tricky and it's like very

1:11:18

like intelligentsia and I'm like trying to

1:11:20

get used to doing sub stack. It's

1:11:23

been trickier than I thought. I'll follow

1:11:25

you. We do what we like live

1:11:27

in our own little world there. I

1:11:29

feel like they're always like they're part

1:11:32

of the people who are like you

1:11:34

have too many tabs and things going

1:11:36

on here and like nobody knows what

1:11:39

to get from you and I'm like

1:11:41

well that's their problem. It's not great.

1:11:43

As someone with a brand. It's not

1:11:45

great to be like that's not my

1:11:48

problem. That's my audiences. But we it's

1:11:50

I've moved from a lot of like

1:11:52

paywall situations and and and yeah. this

1:11:55

is now where everything is like anything

1:11:57

behind a paywall just yeah like I

1:11:59

don't know like no I get I

1:12:01

guess I like some like whatever in

1:12:04

fact like even when you have to

1:12:06

like post and they're like like I'm

1:12:08

like in my paywall like you know

1:12:11

people need Oh baby, and I want

1:12:13

more of your money. Oh shit. It

1:12:15

feels a little weird. Like I don't

1:12:17

know, there's something about it. Like, I

1:12:20

have like a very tiny amount of

1:12:22

paid subscribers and it's nice. You know,

1:12:24

I should do, but I was told

1:12:27

I should do more pay well content

1:12:29

like just for them. But I'm a

1:12:31

really bad fucking business person and I

1:12:34

hate the onus, you have to be

1:12:36

so good at business in order to

1:12:38

do commentary. So I've got, I've got,

1:12:40

yeah, I mean that, that's like a,

1:12:43

I could do, that's a whole conversation.

1:12:45

But yeah, I like it. I like,

1:12:47

I like that they're always iterating and

1:12:50

adding things. I'm like, you guys are

1:12:52

out of control too, by the way,

1:12:54

for somebody, they're telling me that I

1:12:56

have like too many things. I'm like,

1:12:59

you have chats, you guys are all

1:13:01

over the place. The notes are supposed

1:13:03

to be like Twitter, but it's like

1:13:06

not like I'm like no one's engaging

1:13:08

on here. Like I have I have

1:13:10

like if Substat came to me I

1:13:12

have feedback because I actually don't find

1:13:15

Substack that user friendly like as a

1:13:17

consumer and as a creator. Yeah, it's

1:13:19

tough. All right, I know you got

1:13:22

to go. I love you. Thank you

1:13:24

so much for coming through and I

1:13:26

hope everyone watches your two way. Thank

1:13:28

you. And again, I'm so sorry I

1:13:31

had to reschedule ones. It's really, thank

1:13:33

you for forgiving me. Don't feel bad.

1:13:35

And congratulations on all your stuff. It's

1:13:38

so amazing and you do such a

1:13:40

good work and everybody loves you. Oh,

1:13:42

thank you. Not everybody. Not everybody. Not

1:13:45

everybody. The check-in with Bridget and Cousin

1:13:47

Maggie can now be found at fetacy.com.

1:13:49

It's been titled Another Round with Bridget

1:13:51

Fettice. And it's now in video. This

1:13:54

has been walk-ins welcome with Bridget Pettisie.

1:13:56

I'm Bridget Pettisie and you're welcome. It's

1:13:58

the dumbest one.