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internet's most explosive comic book and

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pop culture podcast and we are your

1:01

hosts. My name

1:03

is Chris Sims. With me

1:05

as always is Matt Wilson. And

1:08

Matt, if the

1:10

purge was real, my

1:13

mask would be

1:15

a Goku head. Beautiful.

1:19

Like a full mascot

1:21

Goku head. I

1:24

think that's a

1:26

good call and appropriate

1:28

for you. Very

1:30

appropriate for me. I think I would

1:32

go with like base form Goku. Because

1:35

I think like, you know, I

1:37

would want the irony of like

1:39

big smile Goku, not like the

1:41

focus of a... Wait, Goku when

1:43

he's not in any super Saiyan

1:45

form is base form? I

1:48

mean, I don't know if that's officially

1:50

what it's called, but I'm just...

1:52

Oh, okay. I thought that was maybe

1:54

the official term. Well, the action

1:56

figure that you got me is Goku,

1:58

a Saiyan raised on. Earth. Okay, yeah,

2:00

so not super. Not super, just saying.

2:03

Yeah, just, I mean, yeah, he's a

2:05

say it. Goku, Goku, just saying.

2:07

Just saying, there's definitely

2:10

a Dragon Ball podcast called

2:12

Just Saying. There has to be,

2:14

there has to be. Any time

2:16

I talked about doing a Dragon

2:18

Ball podcast and and they

2:20

came up with the name and it

2:22

was great and I don't want to

2:25

reveal it here. If there's not

2:27

a podcast called Just

2:30

Saying, I think we've

2:32

created another podcast

2:34

we have to do. Yeah, we'll

2:37

add that to More Power and

2:39

Neighborhood Watch and Talk to

2:41

the Hand. A lot of

2:43

our podcast that we are

2:46

never going to do are

2:48

about anime. And it's just

2:50

the title. All it is

2:52

as we came up with

2:54

a title. Oh, okay, there is

2:57

a podcast called We Just

2:59

Saying. Okay. There's

3:02

actually several. There's

3:04

several. There's several. Then

3:07

we're free. Yes. My

3:09

mask as established through

3:12

the first purge movie would

3:14

be of my own face. Okay, I

3:17

have questions. Would it

3:19

be like a mission impossible

3:21

mask that was

3:24

just... Your own face or

3:26

would it be like like a

3:28

mascot version of you like

3:30

at the beginning of St.

3:32

Cyril the third when Johnny

3:35

Gap puts on a Johnny

3:37

Gap mascot costume?

3:39

Kind of like that I mean

3:41

the way it looks in the

3:43

first purge movie is it

3:45

it's these kind of like almost

3:48

like Mardi Gras masks

3:50

that they wear to

3:53

celebrate that it's purge

3:55

day. Okay, and so and

3:57

the leader who's the only.

4:00

Well, no, a lot of other

4:03

members of that group of purgers take

4:05

their masks off, but you see the

4:07

leader like wearing his mask and then

4:09

he takes it off and his mask looks

4:11

exactly like his face. Interesting.

4:15

And that's what I would want

4:17

mine to look like. Like Erica

4:19

actually did some art for the purge

4:22

version of Friends Till the End, where

4:27

it's the three of us, but we're in

4:29

purge masks. And

4:32

the one of like I'm in a mask like

4:34

the one in the like the ones in

4:36

the first movie. Erica and

4:38

Benito were in masks that are from later

4:40

movies. But like

4:42

pretty much the mask Erica drew

4:44

is the one I would I would

4:47

have. That's

4:49

that's good. That's good. In case

4:51

it's not obvious. I recently

4:53

listened to you and Erica and

4:55

Benito talk about the the first

4:58

purge movie, which is not

5:00

the first purge, which is a

5:02

different movie, which is a different movie. So you

5:04

have to call it the first purge movie. The

5:06

original purge movie is what

5:08

I kept calling it purge

5:11

the original movie. That's

5:13

right. Purge the motion picture. Well,

5:16

this is not Friends Till the End.

5:18

This is never going to watch those

5:20

movies. This is Warock and Ajax.

5:22

And what we're doing on

5:24

the show this week is taking

5:26

some listener questions submitted by

5:28

you. The

5:31

listener. Oh, I thought it

5:33

was me and I was panicking. So

5:35

we will get to that in

5:37

a bit. But Chris, before that we

5:39

do have some business to take

5:41

care of our first bit of business.

5:43

Chris is thanking our supporters over

5:45

on Patreon. That's right, Matt.

5:47

These are the listeners of this

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very show that have gone down to

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710 gimmick street and you know

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what's there. I know what's there. The

5:56

fire station was at 709. Yeah, so

5:58

this is across. the street from

6:01

the fires. This is a new

6:03

block. Yeah, it's the gimmick street

6:05

water department. Sure.

6:08

We're in the municipal district.

6:10

I guess so. While you're

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making sure that everything's fine

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with the gimmick street reservoir,

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which has not been poisoned

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Chris. We do have a couple

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tell you about This week

7:26

cut man Dan cut man

7:28

Dan Chad, is that like a

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7:33

boxing? Or like a cut

7:35

man like in Mega Man, unclear.

7:38

It's probably more like a cut

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man like in Mega Man, now

7:42

that you say that I'm thinking

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about it, it's probably

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that. Chad Stenberg. I

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think you, Chad. Sean

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Slooter. Thank you, Sean. And

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Mir. The space station? It's

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spelled with a Y instead

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of an I. Oh, that? That's cool. Yeah.

8:01

So one of the gifts that was

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given to the Lord Jesus Christ by the

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wise men? That was myrrh,

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All right, Chris, now that

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we've thanked our patrons, it's

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time for some checks and

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recs. Let's do it. Chris,

11:31

what would you like to check

11:33

in with this week? Matt, I've

11:35

got an update for you on

11:37

my One Piece Odyssey, which is

11:39

not me playing the video game

11:41

One Piece Odyssey, which I do

11:44

own, but which I... started

11:46

and then I was like, I feel

11:48

like I don't have the

11:50

context necessary for this.

11:52

I was going to say

11:55

it's one-piece Odyssey lowercase

11:57

O, but I think the word Odyssey

12:00

always has to be

12:02

capitalized because that's a

12:04

guy's name. Well it's derivative

12:07

of a guy's name. Yeah yeah

12:09

yeah it comes from a guy's

12:11

name. Also you got to capitalize

12:13

the oh map it's it's it's

12:16

one piece it's it's the title

12:18

of the thing. I bet the

12:20

other I bet a different oh

12:22

please go ahead. Okay I am up

12:25

to chapter 220 in one piece.

12:27

Here's the thing Matt. It's

12:30

dumb. It's really

12:33

dumb. And in

12:35

a way where I'm

12:38

honestly

12:40

not sure if

12:42

it's the kind

12:45

of dumb that's

12:48

just dumb. Is

12:50

it, so it's

12:52

dumber than death

12:55

note? Oh yeah. By

12:57

a lot. Okay. Oh yeah?

13:00

I mean, Death Note's many

13:02

things, but I wouldn't

13:04

say Death Note's dumb. Death

13:06

Note does establish rules

13:09

and very rarely reveals

13:11

that there was a

13:13

rule that you didn't know

13:16

about that is the

13:18

reason something is happening.

13:20

One piece does that literally

13:23

multiple times a

13:25

chapter. It's

13:28

okay so you've read you've

13:30

read a little bit

13:32

of one piece right I

13:34

know you haven't read a

13:37

lot a little bit a

13:39

very little bit I mostly

13:41

seen like the animated

13:43

show like the anime

13:45

more than reading the

13:48

manga right you are

13:50

aware that there is the

13:52

main character monkey deluffie

13:55

did get Superpowers from

13:57

eating a specific varietal.

14:00

the devil fruit he

14:02

ate the gum gum fruit which turned him into a rubber

14:04

man How

14:06

many kinds

14:08

of devil fruit would you guess there

14:10

are I? Would

14:14

I would suspect probably a lot

14:16

I Would think

14:18

it's probably like the various

14:20

colors of kryptonite were at one point That

14:24

that is that is correct Matt

14:27

But my thing is when you

14:29

say a lot. I don't think

14:32

you know what a lot is okay,

14:35

because 220

14:37

chapters in and the

14:40

Varietals of devil fruit

14:42

still unknown because they're

14:44

just introduced Seemingly

14:46

at random it's

14:50

Here's the thing. Is it

14:52

any dumber? Then saying oh,

14:54

this person's a mutant and this

14:56

is their mutant power Probably not but

14:58

the fact that it's a different

15:00

kind of thing every time is bugging

15:02

me And

15:08

They're also very weird like

15:10

I posted on on

15:12

blue sky about there's a

15:14

gun That ate

15:16

the mutt mutt fruit and turned

15:18

into a dog That

15:21

was also a gun that shot

15:23

exploiting baseballs How did the

15:25

gun eat a fruit? I'm glad you

15:27

asked Matt I'm

15:29

very glad you asked Because

15:31

it is explained that the

15:33

gun was able to eat

15:35

the fruit because of new

15:37

technology. Oh That makes

15:40

sense new technology. Yeah,

15:42

man Yeah, man new

15:44

technology That's it

15:48

Now this gun

15:50

dog never perp like

15:52

never performs a function of a

15:54

dog Only is kind

15:56

of a gun interesting

16:00

There's no reason for it to

16:02

be a dog. And look, look,

16:04

obviously that rules. Is it a

16:07

dog or is it a gun

16:09

that walks? Well, it's a gun

16:11

that is a dog. I don't,

16:14

Matt, I don't, I can't make

16:16

this anymore clear. Okay. Here I

16:18

will send you a picture. People

16:21

can go check out my blue

16:23

sky count at the ISB. dot

16:25

beast guy dot social if you

16:28

want to see it scroll down

16:30

a little bit I maybe I

16:32

saw it and had no context

16:35

for it I mean what context

16:37

could there possibly be great point

16:39

excellent point let's let's how can

16:42

I copy link to post here

16:44

we go here I'm just oh

16:46

I found it I found it

16:49

I found it yeah I don't

16:51

know man it's a gun it's

16:54

a gun it's a dog This

16:57

is not what I pictured

16:59

when I thought of gun.

17:01

Well, it's it's meant to

17:03

be a flintlock Oh Yeah,

17:06

you can see like that's

17:08

the handle there at the

17:10

end Yeah, and that yeah

17:12

Anyway, shoots exploding baseballs And

17:14

it's like okay cool But

17:17

are we doing a narrative

17:19

here or are we just

17:21

are we just making shit

17:23

up? Because there is a

17:26

difference? I don't

17:28

know. I don't know ma'am. The

17:30

Baroque works arc, which I just

17:32

recently completed, I believe, is it

17:34

was a bit of a slog

17:36

at times to get through. And

17:39

I'm trying to focus on the

17:41

fact that there's stuff that comes

17:43

before that I like a lot,

17:45

and I know that something that

17:47

goes on for a thousand chapters

17:49

has dips and, you know, peaks

17:52

and valleys. I hope I get

17:54

to... Like back up to the

17:56

level of luffie hitting a dude

17:58

with the fucking rainmaker because he

18:00

was mean to a dog. Because that

18:03

happens like a hundred chapters

18:05

ago and was very exciting.

18:08

Yeah. But yeah, Baroque works. Kind

18:10

of like, if that one comes

18:12

in on the Every Story Ever

18:14

list, kind of a thumbs down,

18:16

it's not making the top half

18:18

for sure. So that's my one

18:20

piece update for everybody. Matt, what

18:22

have you been up to this

18:25

week? What are you checking him

18:27

with? Chris? A very important.

18:30

Package, arrived at my house

18:32

yesterday as of the

18:34

recording of this episode. It

18:37

is all of my copies,

18:39

my print copies of

18:41

the collected Issues 1 and

18:43

2 of Imposter Syndicate.

18:45

Yes, they have been

18:47

shipped, they are out there, if

18:49

you back to the Zoop campaign,

18:52

you should have your book

18:54

or it should be coming to

18:56

you very soon to you

18:58

very soon. And now I'm

19:00

in the position of,

19:02

what do I do with this?

19:05

If you back the Zoop campaign

19:07

for Imposter Syndicate and you

19:09

have your book and you

19:12

read it, I would love

19:14

to hear what you think

19:17

of it. I know it

19:19

is risky to solicit feedback.

19:22

I understand what I am

19:24

doing right now. I would like

19:26

to hear though. people's thoughts

19:28

about the book and if

19:30

and how they would like to see

19:32

more of it because it the

19:34

two issues like the this 44

19:37

pages of comics that I have

19:39

done along with Rodrigo

19:41

Vargas who did incredible

19:43

incredible art Antonio Ramos

19:46

Wong who did the

19:48

colors and then there's

19:51

also an alternate cover

19:53

by the aforementioned Erica

19:55

Henderson. Three times a

19:58

Western winner. Yes. Stunning

20:01

cover from Erika, incredible cover

20:03

and interior art from Rodrigo

20:05

and Antonio. But

20:09

I want to make more

20:11

of the comic. The second

20:13

issue ends on a cliffhanger for

20:15

a reason, because

20:17

the intent is for

20:19

this to be at

20:21

least a mini -series

20:23

and ideally like

20:25

an ongoing concern

20:28

and ongoing

20:30

story. So

20:32

I'm trying to figure out what

20:34

I can do to to make

20:36

more imposter syndicate. I

20:38

guess I have to go to

20:40

conventions with it. I

20:43

guess that's the thing I have to do. So

20:46

in addition to telling me what you think of

20:48

the book, also tell me

20:51

what conventions you would like me to

20:53

go to. Because

20:55

I suppose that's how I

20:57

have to get into the hands

20:59

of editors or get editors

21:01

to look at it. I've thought

21:03

about mailing it or sending

21:06

digital copies to some editors, but

21:08

I'm sort of not

21:10

quite figuring out who or

21:12

where. I could do

21:14

that. I've done the whole

21:16

send a book to images

21:18

submissions

21:21

email in the

21:23

past and had

21:25

little luck with

21:27

that. So feedback,

21:29

guidance and recommendations

21:31

for conventions that I can

21:33

go to where people will

21:35

care about this. Those are all

21:37

things I'm looking for right

21:39

now. I'm very happy that the

21:41

book is done. I'm happy

21:43

to have it. I'm happy that

21:45

I was

21:47

able to do this project where I

21:50

could pay the artists I work with

21:52

and make sure that

21:54

everybody who put

21:56

in a lot of hard work

21:58

into the book. was paid

22:00

what they deserved for that

22:02

work. But now I want

22:04

to do the next thing

22:06

with imposter syndicate because as

22:08

I said when we first

22:10

were pitching the book, we're

22:12

doing the campaign, it's an

22:14

idea I've had for a

22:16

really long time and I've

22:18

known where this story is

22:20

going for pretty much that

22:22

entire time. And I would

22:24

love to continue it. It

22:27

feels like crowdfunding in

22:29

issue three is not

22:32

the right move, at

22:34

least not right now.

22:36

So, you know, I

22:38

would love to hear

22:40

from folks about what

22:42

they think and where

22:44

we can go from

22:46

here. Chris, let's make

22:48

some recommendations. What do

22:50

you have to recommend?

22:52

Matt, well, first of

22:54

all, I will recommend

22:56

imposter syndicate. It's a

22:58

really good book. Thank

23:00

you. I read those

23:02

first two issues and

23:04

the arts incredible, love

23:06

the story, obviously. It's

23:08

definitely a quality comic

23:10

and I like it

23:12

a lot. As for

23:14

my non-neptismic recommendation, I

23:16

will say this, my

23:18

ongoing efforts to turn

23:20

this into a tabletop

23:22

and board game podcast

23:25

will continue. Until Morales

23:27

proves. Which will probably

23:29

be a while. Yep.

23:31

You got it, bud.

23:33

So I would like

23:35

to recommend another game

23:37

that I think is

23:39

one that's easy to

23:41

pick up, easy to

23:43

play, kind of a

23:45

crowd pleaser, and very

23:47

simple if the people

23:49

that you're playing with

23:51

are familiar with. board

23:53

games, tabletop games, or

23:55

especially deck builder games.

23:57

And that is the,

23:59

I guess you would

24:01

call it the... realms

24:03

family of games because

24:05

there's a star realms

24:07

and hero realms star

24:09

realms obviously is sci-fi

24:11

themed hero realms fantasy

24:13

themed otherwise it's basically

24:16

the same yes the

24:18

classic Sierra adventure game

24:20

star hero dichotomy yes

24:23

yes very much there

24:25

was also police but

24:27

let's forget There was

24:29

police quest, there was

24:32

hero quest, star quest,

24:34

and, or it was space quest,

24:36

I think, and hero quest.

24:38

What's that one, what's that

24:41

one video game? Wasn't

24:43

Kajima did it? Police

24:45

knots. Police knots, yeah. About

24:47

cops who are also

24:49

astronauts. Yeah. You know, that

24:52

movie, uh, that movie Dogman is

24:54

coming out. Oh, where the dog is

24:56

a cop? Yeah. Yeah, Ted Anderson told

24:58

me about it. And he was like,

25:00

oh, it's a cop and a dog

25:02

are like caught in an explosion. And

25:04

the cop's head is destroyed and

25:06

the dog's body is destroyed. So they

25:09

put the dog's head on the cop

25:11

body. And now he's got like all of

25:13

the best parts of dog and all

25:15

the best parts of cop. And I

25:17

was like, first of all, I can

25:19

tell you the best part of a

25:21

dog is not the head. That's

25:24

what that's where the brain is.

25:26

Second of all, it sounds like

25:28

they just ruined a

25:30

perfectly good dog. Made it a

25:32

cop, yeah. But yes, the great thing

25:34

about these games, very simple

25:37

deck builders, very easy to

25:39

explain, very portable.

25:41

AC has actually, like, you

25:44

know, we've gone out to restaurants

25:46

and AC's been like, oh, let's

25:48

bring a game. and we have

25:51

sat at a restaurant playing

25:53

this game, which does make me

25:56

feel like I'm back to being

25:58

a annoying gamer in... high school,

26:00

but you know, everyone seems fine

26:03

with it and I have a

26:05

lot of fun playing games for

26:07

my wife. The great thing about

26:09

them though is that there is

26:12

a lot of expandability. The base

26:14

game is great and relatively inexpensive

26:16

and relatively small, very small

26:18

footprint on the shelf. But

26:21

with hero realms in particular,

26:23

you can get classes that are

26:26

fun because they come in like

26:28

booster packs. Like that kind of

26:30

packaging, but it's all it's it's

26:32

not collectible. It's all the same

26:34

So if you're like oh, I

26:36

want to play a thief in this

26:38

game You just pick that up. It's

26:40

like six dollars And you have a new

26:42

starting deck So all it does is

26:44

change the the 10 or 11 cards

26:47

that you start with but you

26:49

can then get an expansion that

26:51

turns it into a co-op game

26:53

with like a campaign with Star

26:55

realms, there's a bunch of

26:58

expansions that do kind of

27:00

the same thing, but also

27:03

like add a bunch of

27:05

different mechanics to it. And

27:08

Matt, particularly relevant for

27:10

us, there is a Star

27:12

Trek version of Star realms,

27:14

which does not capture the

27:17

feel of Star Trek because

27:19

it is essentially just a

27:21

full reskin of the main

27:24

game. which I think is fine.

27:26

But it does have all your

27:28

favorite Star Trek

27:30

ships, that's right,

27:32

including the D. And the

27:34

card for the Enterprise D

27:37

does say that it is like

27:39

the little flavor text on

27:41

it is that the the

27:44

Enterprise D is a ship

27:46

that has been captained by

27:48

such Starfleet luminaries

27:50

as Captain John

27:52

Lee Picard. And that's

27:55

right, Edward Jelico, that

27:57

motherfucker. Oh, Edward Jelico.

28:00

what a what a what a

28:02

hard ass. Fucking hate

28:04

Jelico man. Listen when

28:07

you need a hard ass

28:09

would you need an actor

28:11

who's gonna play a

28:13

hard ass you get Ronnie

28:16

Cox. Hey get it done.

28:18

A piece of shit. Jelico.

28:20

Anyway, check out Star realms,

28:22

check out Hero realms. I've

28:25

played it a bunch of

28:27

times with AC and with

28:29

our friends and it is

28:32

an absolute enjoyable hoot of

28:34

a time. We actually started

28:36

playing the the campaign version

28:38

of Hero realms last week

28:41

and had a blast doing it.

28:43

Matt, what is your recommendation? My

28:45

recommendation is a show that

28:48

you can watch. on Dropout.

28:50

TV. Classic Chris and Matt.

28:53

Yep. A tabletop game and

28:55

a streaming television series. It's

28:57

currently in its second season,

28:59

but I only recently started

29:02

watching it because I'll be

29:04

honest, I didn't know what

29:06

it was going to be. It's

29:08

called Very Important People. It's hosted

29:11

by Vic Michaelis. And the idea

29:13

of the show is that it's

29:15

a talk show where improvisers,

29:18

other comedians. are put

29:20

into extensive makeup that

29:22

they are not told what

29:25

that makeup is going to

29:27

be. And then they are shown

29:29

what they look like and they

29:31

have to come up with a

29:33

character on the fly

29:36

for Vic Michaelis to

29:38

interview. That's fun on its

29:40

own. And what the various

29:42

comedians come up with based

29:45

on the makeup that they

29:47

get. is great. It does seem

29:50

like some comics, some of

29:52

the improvisers, get way

29:54

more makeup than the

29:56

others. And I don't quite

29:59

understand. What the calculus

30:01

is there of like, we're gonna

30:03

put a full body prosthetic on

30:05

this person or we're just gonna

30:07

put some like fake acne on

30:09

them, but some people get like,

30:12

some people get like a

30:14

costume and some people are

30:16

full Cardassians. Yeah, like there's

30:18

an episode like if he

30:20

and Wadiway gets a full

30:22

alien outfit where even

30:25

like his eyes are covered,

30:27

like his whole head is covered, including his

30:29

nose. I don't know how he could breathe

30:31

in that thing. And,

30:34

but others, yeah, like, it's,

30:36

it's straight, it's

30:38

strange, the like various

30:40

levels of makeup that are

30:43

going on there. But

30:45

I'll tell you my favorite thing about the show. My

30:49

favorite thing about

30:51

shows recently comedy shows

30:54

recently is when

30:56

a person

30:58

plays a version

31:00

of quote unquote themselves, but

31:04

then that has lore

31:06

attached to it. And the

31:08

Vic McHales who hosts

31:10

the show calls themselves

31:12

Vic McHales, but

31:14

from Jump Street is

31:16

a totally different person who

31:18

is a character who has

31:20

like a stepdaughter, and hates,

31:22

hates their job, and is

31:25

married to a much older

31:27

man. And it goes on

31:29

and on and on like

31:31

there's all this like building

31:33

lore about in in scare

31:35

quotes Vic McHales, which is

31:37

reminiscent to me of Tim

31:39

Heidecker and Greg Turkington.

31:42

Yeah, from, you know, on the

31:44

cinema at the cinema. And

31:46

I will just eat that up

31:48

all day. Like, as

31:51

soon as I finished the

31:53

first season, I went and found

31:55

a Reddit post where someone

31:57

had compiled everything about the character

32:00

of Vic Michaelis, who

32:02

the host of very

32:04

important people, like how

32:06

they desperately want to

32:09

work for MS NBC.

32:11

That shit's so funny

32:13

to me. Yeah. Like developing

32:16

a lore about the

32:18

character version of yourself.

32:20

Oh, I love it. I love that.

32:22

If I was going to pick a

32:24

dropout show that I knew you would

32:27

like, it would be, um, actually, but

32:29

if I was going to pick a

32:31

second one, it would have been very

32:33

important people. And, uh,

32:36

Vic Michaelis Loki, dropout MVP,

32:38

I love them. No kidding. No kidding.

32:40

Like, they do this thing on

32:43

very important people where they

32:45

will just kind of like

32:47

redirect the conversation or add

32:49

something new to the guest's

32:51

character. that is like

32:54

so subtle, but perfectly

32:56

a very important people.

32:58

I love it. I

33:00

like them actually

33:02

too. There's too much

33:05

of them actually, if

33:07

I'm being honest. It's

33:09

like, there's a lot

33:12

of it. Because it's, I'm

33:14

sure it's the easiest

33:16

dropout show to make. Shots

33:18

fire. No, I don't I don't

33:20

mean that in a derogatory way.

33:22

It's just a straight up game show.

33:25

You know, like it doesn't require

33:27

all of the additional

33:29

production that like a game

33:31

changer does. That's true. You know,

33:33

I imagine game changer has gotten

33:36

exponentially more complex to make.

33:38

Oh, in every season. The

33:41

recent seasons where it

33:43

gets so complicated and

33:45

they're doing such like intense.

33:47

Wild things on that show. I

33:49

can't imagine that make some noise

33:51

is not especially hard to make

33:53

Because it's just give people a

33:56

prompt and then they improvise but

33:58

interesting tie into my recommendation.

34:00

There is a card in

34:02

the Star Trek, Star

34:04

Realms game called Beacon of

34:07

Calus. You

34:09

know, Calus, the

34:12

Klingon god who murdered all the

34:14

other gods. And every time one of

34:16

us would say, AC and I were playing it when

34:18

we were over a friend's house, and every time one

34:20

of us would say, Beacon of Calus, they

34:22

thought we said, Vic McAlus. So

34:27

put Vic McAlus in Star

34:29

Realms. That's my demand

34:31

of wise wizard games. Makes

34:34

perfect sense to me. Love them. All right,

34:36

Chris, those are our checks and rex.

34:38

It's time to talk about some comics. Let's

34:40

do it. The

34:44

Texture's Choice winner for this week, Chris,

34:46

is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles number

34:48

six. I

34:50

had not been reading

34:52

this before now, but

34:54

I just hopped in

34:56

with this issue because

34:59

our former boss and

35:01

coworker, Andy Currie, is

35:03

now not the sole credited

35:06

editor on the book, but one of

35:08

the credited editors on the book and is

35:10

soon to be the sole credited editor

35:12

on the book. Let

35:15

me say this straight out of the gate. This

35:17

is written by Jason Aaron

35:20

and has art by

35:22

Juan Ferreira. This

35:24

thing is beautiful. Yes.

35:27

Holy moly. It's

35:32

a gorgeous book. It feels

35:34

like every page could

35:36

be a pin up. Juan

35:39

Ferreira is killing

35:41

it on this book. I

35:44

was not prepared

35:46

for how beautiful it was going to

35:48

be. And I

35:50

think Ferreira is doing art

35:52

like pencil art and

35:54

colors because there's no credited colorist.

35:56

Yes, it's just art by Juan Ferreira.

36:00

And it does an amazing

36:02

job of making the four

36:04

turtles distinct in ways that

36:06

are beyond the color of

36:08

their masks. Well, it does

36:10

that thing that I love

36:12

that the cartoon didn't actually

36:15

do. But if you bought

36:17

the toys, each

36:19

turtle was a slightly different

36:21

shade of green. Yes. And this

36:23

also does that. And in

36:25

fact, I think the four turtles

36:27

are the shades they were

36:29

in the toys. Entirely

36:33

possible. Yeah. But even

36:35

beyond that, like the acting

36:37

of the way they

36:39

stand is really good. Like

36:41

there's a really good

36:44

double page spread with a

36:46

panel where the turtles

36:48

are kind of in the

36:50

middle of Times Square

36:52

being held at gunpoint by

36:54

cops. And everyone's attitude

36:57

is very evident from the

36:59

way they stand. Like

37:01

RAF stands like RAF. Donatello

37:03

is Donatello has been

37:05

going through it in a

37:07

really fucked up way. Well,

37:11

OK. Splinter is

37:13

dead in the story. All right.

37:15

give you the one. Well, he's

37:17

kind of dead. Like he's quote

37:19

unquote dead, but he's also narrating

37:21

this story. Well, they've they've been

37:24

dead before. Yeah, they've all been

37:26

dead before. Yeah. I mean, they

37:28

were, you know, they used to

37:30

be people in Japan. And

37:33

like they were real people

37:35

in Japan who were reincarnated as

37:37

turtles in a rat. That's

37:39

true. So

37:43

Donatello is doing one of

37:45

those things where he doesn't believe

37:47

that Splinter is dead. And

37:49

so he's carrying around this rat

37:51

saying that it's Splinter. And

37:54

it's sad. It's

37:56

it's a real

37:58

bummer. Like, yeah,

38:00

Donatello. was really going through

38:02

it. And then the other

38:05

three are like

38:07

incredibly fractured.

38:09

Yes. Like, because this

38:12

is what I love about

38:14

this story, the foot

38:16

has taken over the

38:19

whole city. Yeah, the

38:21

foot planner, now the

38:23

cops. They're everywhere.

38:26

I know you said you jumped on with

38:28

this issue. Did you read the previous ones?

38:30

Did you catch up or did you just

38:32

jump on? I just jumped on. I want

38:35

to go back and read the previous ones

38:37

now and will. Highly recommended.

38:39

I didn't feel lost. Read this issue. I'm

38:41

going to jump on with because it's

38:43

the first. four issues are all

38:45

about what the individual turtles have

38:48

been doing. The fifth issue is

38:50

about Casey Jones and kind of

38:52

the status of New York and

38:54

the sixth issue is them coming

38:56

back to New York. So it

38:58

is it is the one to

39:00

jump on. But when I say

39:03

Donatello has been going through it

39:05

in a really fucked up way.

39:07

T-N-T number four for that. But

39:09

also... the whole situation, there's a

39:11

whole situation here with Michelangelo

39:14

and Raff, where, like, Michelangelo

39:16

had a TV show? Yeah,

39:18

when you catch up with

39:21

Michelangelo, he's in Tokyo and

39:23

is a big star, like

39:25

basically doing a, like a

39:27

common writer or super sentai

39:29

show, where he is the star?

39:32

That's incredible. Yeah. But Raff ruined

39:34

it for him. And so now

39:36

they are like... the most at

39:38

odds I've ever seen the turtles

39:41

be. Yeah, no, there's a lot

39:44

of drama that's really good.

39:46

It's one of those things

39:48

that were, like it's played

39:50

very much as this is a

39:52

family, so they're not going

39:54

to split up, but they are

39:56

as fractured as they've ever

39:59

been. And Leo's just trying

40:01

to keep the peace. And it's

40:03

one of those things where like

40:05

every time he steps in to

40:07

try to keep the peace, Raff

40:09

and Mike here, just like, shut

40:12

up. And it's perfect. It's

40:14

like the perfect dynamic. We

40:16

often talk about comics that

40:18

aren't as good as you want

40:21

them to be. Like the

40:23

disappointment of like, oh, this should be

40:25

really good, but it's not.

40:27

This is one of those

40:30

rare comics where it's exactly

40:32

as good as you want

40:34

the Jason Aaron Teenage

40:37

Mutant Ninja Turtles

40:39

Run debate. Like it's

40:42

exactly a Jason Aaron T.M.T.

40:44

comic. I'll tell you, the

40:46

art elevates it so much.

40:49

It's absolutely gorgeous.

40:52

There is a panel of just

40:55

the turtles coming out of the

40:57

sewer onto the street that I

40:59

would buy as a poster It

41:01

blew me away the art in this

41:03

blew me away Good stuff good

41:06

stuff. You say elevates, but

41:08

it's not like the story's bad.

41:10

No, but I think the art

41:12

I do think that's what

41:14

the art does. Yeah, no

41:16

the art the art is

41:18

like it really is firing

41:20

on all cylinders. I don't

41:22

Think Ferreira draws the last,

41:24

like, like, couple of

41:27

issues, but I do

41:29

think he's the, like,

41:31

ongoing artist, I think?

41:33

Yeah, Chris Burnham draws

41:36

the Donatello issue,

41:38

which is obviously

41:40

great. Cliff Chang

41:42

draws the Leo

41:44

issue, also amazing.

41:46

That's good. That's

41:48

good. The artists they're getting

41:50

for these books. The first issue is

41:52

wrath in prison and it's Joe L. Jones.

41:54

Yeah, those are all great. It is a truly incredible,

41:56

like, murder is a row of artists,

41:58

but I think for. is, yeah,

42:01

Derek Robertson does the Casey

42:03

Jones issue. It's all good.

42:05

It's a killer cast. I

42:07

think Ferrer is the ongoing

42:09

artist. I hope so. Because

42:12

he's great. All right, moving

42:14

on, Chris, you wanted to

42:16

talk a bit about the

42:18

rise of the power company

42:20

one shot from this. Yeah,

42:22

man. Do you remember the

42:24

power company? Yeah, dog. I

42:27

do. And I'm shockingly. Not

42:29

the only one! This is

42:31

billed as a DC Black

42:33

History Month offering and I

42:35

think that the deal with the

42:37

new power company is that

42:40

it is going to be

42:42

all black characters. So there's

42:45

Josiah Power, obviously, there's the

42:47

Green Lantern from far sector,

42:49

cyborg, black lightings in

42:51

it, but I don't think

42:54

he's going to be in

42:56

the cast, and then a

42:58

signal. from Scott Snyder and

43:00

Greg Polo's run on Batman.

43:02

And a guy that I

43:05

am unfamiliar with who has

43:07

Black Atom powers, but his

43:09

costume is white. And I

43:11

think might have been, might have

43:14

been a priest character

43:16

from that run. The priest

43:18

run block atom. Is

43:20

the Batman from Future's

43:22

End in this too? I think

43:25

so. Yeah. issue has a couple

43:27

of different stories. Brandon Thomas, Zapora,

43:29

Smith, John Jennings, and Vida Ayala,

43:31

who, by the way, lost a

43:33

bunch of stuff in the LA

43:36

fires and there is a go-fund

43:38

meet for Vida Ayala that you

43:40

can find and we would definitely

43:42

recommend contributing to that if

43:45

you can. She does the

43:47

Batman and the signal story.

43:49

And it is a little bit,

43:52

I think she's named, or the

43:54

Batman is named, but it's a

43:56

little unclear. I wish that

43:59

story had. little bit more

44:01

of like here's who this is

44:03

he like I don't think the

44:05

words Duke Thomas are in this

44:07

story you know yeah but it

44:10

is an intriguing cast and that's

44:12

a solid cast for a power

44:14

company reboot I always thought

44:17

the power company was great

44:19

the idea of a corporate

44:21

superhero team that did

44:23

exist as a corporation

44:25

but that also like was

44:27

doing superhero stuff pro

44:30

bono because that's good

44:32

PR and saving people's good

44:35

PR. Like I think

44:37

that's an interesting idea.

44:39

What I was surprised at

44:41

with this is that it's not

44:43

a full reboot. It's like,

44:45

yeah, you remember the

44:47

Power Company? That 12-issue

44:50

series that Kerbusic wrote

44:52

in the 2000s? Oh, that

44:54

happened! Oh, did you mention

44:57

Vixen? Vixen is in

44:59

this too. Vixen's

45:01

in it. Vixen's in

45:03

the story too, yeah.

45:05

But it's good stuff.

45:08

There's really intriguing stuff

45:10

with like Josiah Power.

45:12

I think in a cool

45:15

and relevant way, being

45:17

like, hey, I was a

45:19

corporate guy and that

45:21

sucked actually. Yeah. and I

45:24

should be a better person than

45:26

like if I'm going to do this

45:28

I should not have a corporate

45:30

mindset which I think is

45:33

20 years later kind of the

45:35

way you got to go with Josiah

45:37

Power. Yeah it looks like the

45:39

story is continuing in a

45:42

what I assume is a

45:44

new black lightning series.

45:46

It definitely ties into

45:48

some new black lightning stuff

45:50

and it also Promises that

45:52

the power company will return.

45:54

So never the end. Yeah. Yeah, I hope we

45:56

get a new power company out of this because

45:58

I would love to see. This cast

46:01

these writers these artists Really

46:03

jump on again. I always

46:05

thought it was a good idea and

46:07

I would love to see where they

46:09

go with it And I'd love

46:11

to see the far sector green

46:14

lantern Nothing but respect for

46:16

my green lantern Show up

46:18

more in the in the DC universe

46:21

One last book that I

46:23

wanted to talk about a little

46:25

bit is X-Men number 10. This

46:27

is the Jed McKay, X-Men

46:29

book, the one with Cyclops's team

46:32

up in Alaska, and the

46:34

X-Men who love cops. Okay, Chris,

46:36

you'll be happy to know that

46:38

there are no, there's no like

46:41

loving cops going on in

46:43

this issue. They're not showing any

46:45

cops around their headquarters or

46:47

anything. This is by Jed

46:49

McKay with art by Netho

46:51

Diaz, by the way, which

46:53

is very similar to the art

46:55

style of the book. up

46:57

to now. It's very in

47:00

line with the Ryan Stegman

47:03

art. So it feels

47:05

like Chris, it kind

47:07

of feels like we

47:10

should love this. Okay.

47:12

Because what this has

47:14

eventually become

47:17

is the X-Men versus

47:20

the US federal government

47:23

who wanted Want

47:26

to try to make the

47:29

X-Men leave the country. It's

47:31

you know, it's it's that

47:33

classic X-Men conflict of

47:36

you know Government

47:38

oppression against

47:40

mutants generally

47:42

But this is this

47:44

instead of like you know

47:46

Henry Peter Guyrick or

47:49

or whoever There's a

47:51

there's a new guy

47:54

here And his name

47:56

is Lundkvist. And

47:58

Cyclops. does some

48:01

of that cycleop shit, where

48:03

he talks about how he's

48:05

going to do some

48:08

brinksmanship. And if anyone,

48:10

if he dies, if

48:13

the government assassinates Cyclops,

48:16

he's gonna send all

48:18

of his Omega-level mutants

48:20

to Washington DC,

48:23

and they're just gonna

48:25

wipe out. like all

48:27

of the infrastructure of the

48:30

federal government. And

48:32

there won't be a government

48:34

anymore. And this Lundquist

48:36

guy is like, all the mutants

48:39

will be dead in a year if

48:41

you do that. And Cyclops goes,

48:43

well, good luck doing that without

48:45

any functioning government

48:48

at all. He says, how long until

48:50

states was in to

48:52

succeed? for foreign powers

48:55

come sniffing around landing

48:57

troops to render emergency

48:59

aid and never leaving.

49:02

And it's like, it's like

49:04

the stuff we like about

49:06

Cyclops, right? Mm-hmm. And

49:09

yet it doesn't hit for

49:11

me the way I want it

49:13

to. And I'm not quite sure

49:16

why. But like... It's

49:18

a similar feeling we had when

49:20

we read that first issue where

49:23

it was just kind of like,

49:25

even aside from the stuff

49:27

with the cops, like where

49:29

Cyclops were showing the cop

49:31

around, like it just didn't

49:33

quite click. And there's

49:36

still something about this where

49:38

it just still feels that

49:40

way. And that's, you know,

49:43

that's really frustrating to me because

49:45

I love. A lot of

49:47

Jed McKay's other comics. I

49:50

love a lot of Jed

49:52

McKay's other Marvel work. But

49:54

for whatever reason, his

49:56

X-Men run, this X-Men run,

49:58

is just not. It's just

50:01

not there for me. Yeah,

50:03

it's like this is the one

50:05

of the most Most like

50:08

prime examples of the

50:11

thing I was just

50:13

talking about with Jason

50:16

Arran's TM NT where it's

50:18

like I should like

50:20

this should be like

50:22

we've we've loved McKay's

50:24

stuff on on virtually

50:26

every other book. But

50:29

the X-Men stuff is not hitting.

50:31

You know, like, another part

50:33

of this issue is, is, you know,

50:36

when this Lundquist guy shows up

50:38

and he's like, oh, you're gonna

50:40

give me everything I want, right?

50:43

You're gonna surrender. And

50:45

Cyclops is like, no, actually,

50:47

I'm gonna unleash the Hellians

50:49

on one of your bases

50:51

to show you what we could do. Like,

50:54

I should love that shit. I should

50:56

be loving that. You

50:58

know, it's wrong for me to not

51:01

say that like part of it is

51:03

just like it's hard for me

51:05

to get on board with the

51:07

post-Krakoa era of X-Men. It

51:09

does, like everything about it

51:11

feels like such a step

51:13

backwards and like, yeah, it's

51:15

a step backwards to like two

51:17

stuff that we like. But

51:20

and yet Krakow was such a

51:22

step forward and it felt like

51:24

such a like wow this is

51:27

like like we've talked about how

51:29

much house of X is when

51:31

like is the last time we

51:33

were like holy shit comics were

51:35

so a comics are so good

51:38

and this just ain't that

51:40

and and I don't think

51:42

it's Jed McKay's fault. I

51:44

think Judd McKay's trying his

51:46

best to make a good comic

51:48

but it I'm just not connecting

51:51

with it the way I want to.

51:53

Yeah, Ben. Let's connect in the

51:55

way we do want to, Chris, by

51:57

taking some listener questions.

52:11

Chris our first question

52:14

comes from our discord

52:17

from Michael Haida and

52:19

I think this was

52:21

actually prompted by

52:24

the Gordies Michael asks

52:26

what would absolute war

52:28

rocket Ajax be would

52:31

it still be a

52:33

podcast interesting interesting

52:36

no in order to be more

52:39

relevant more modern

52:41

Because like this this show

52:44

16 years going on Yeah,

52:46

yeah Jesus Christ But 16

52:48

years it would it would be

52:50

like a twitch stream or

52:53

something right if I was

52:55

gonna say it would be

52:57

a nebula video essay We

52:59

would have to get on

53:01

nebula, but yeah, well, I

53:03

mean mad. It's it's an

53:05

absolutely it can do it

53:08

be whatever we want

53:10

We're reimagining We don't

53:12

have to get on Nebula.

53:14

We have a podcast. Here's

53:17

the other thing about it.

53:19

So part of absolute, I

53:21

feel like, is it's still recognizably

53:25

the characters while stripping

53:27

out some key elements

53:29

of what those characters

53:32

are. Right? Like Superman didn't

53:34

come to Earth as a baby.

53:36

Right. Batman only has

53:39

one dead parent. Uh-huh.

53:43

Wonder Woman wasn't, didn't

53:45

come from Paradise Island.

53:47

Came from Hell Island.

53:50

Came from Hell Island instead.

53:52

So what is the major

53:54

element of War Rocket Ajax

53:57

that we remove for

53:59

absolute? And I think I

54:01

have my answer. Is it that

54:03

we're no longer southern? Some

54:06

people guessed that, but

54:08

I think that is, I mean,

54:10

Superman's still from

54:12

Krypton. I don't think

54:14

that's it. That's not it

54:17

for me. Okay. People

54:19

are going to think this

54:21

is a wild pull, but I

54:23

think this is true. I don't

54:25

think the shows about

54:28

comics. Interesting.

54:30

Because there's nothing

54:33

less relevant than

54:35

comics. Exactly. I

54:37

think the show

54:39

is about just

54:41

kind of general

54:44

pop culture that

54:46

we like and not

54:48

so specifically about

54:50

comics like the show

54:53

is now. There's also,

54:55

is yours that we're

54:57

not southern? Instead

55:00

of having a Sailor Moon

55:02

tattoo, I only have a

55:04

Dragon Mall tattoo. Okay. All

55:06

right. And you have less

55:08

tattoos than I have more

55:11

tattoos. You have more tattoos.

55:13

Okay. I have one, two,

55:15

three, four, five, six, six

55:17

tattoos. So we each have

55:19

three. Perfect. This follow-up

55:22

question from CJ Kraw.

55:24

How thick would Chris

55:26

be? Absolutely. All man

55:28

in a yard wide. Yep.

55:31

And how big is

55:33

Matt's sword? Well, I

55:35

don't think I would call

55:37

it a sword. I would call

55:39

it more of a slab

55:41

of raw iron. That's going

55:43

to get me every

55:46

time, I think. Jolie

55:48

and Jolie and Jolie on

55:50

our discord wants to know.

55:52

You all think that folks in

55:54

the DC universe use BCE

55:56

to refer to the before the

55:59

crisis era? So are people

56:01

in the DC universe

56:04

aware of the crises?

56:06

That is the thing

56:08

that I think breaks

56:10

the premise of the

56:12

question. Yeah. Yeah. They

56:15

don't remember. Yeah. Yeah.

56:17

They would have to

56:19

remember. Yeah. Yeah. They would

56:21

have to remember

56:23

and I don't think they

56:25

do. But it is fun

56:28

to think about. We

56:31

actually got this question

56:34

from somebody on

56:36

Blue Sky and somebody

56:38

on Discord, which is

56:40

wild. P. Tisel the

56:42

Bizzle Dizzle asks what

56:45

our favorite Saturday morning

56:47

cartoon was. And so

56:50

does Hubert Vigila on

56:52

Blue Sky? Tim and T.

56:54

Was a big one when

56:56

I was but a lad of

56:58

five. Yeah. And you

57:01

know, obviously X-Men, Batman

57:03

wasn't a Saturday morning

57:05

cartoon. But like, are we

57:08

talking about like, more in

57:10

the comedy vein than? I don't

57:12

know. I think if it just

57:15

aired on Saturday morning

57:17

that counts. And Batman

57:19

aired on Saturday morning

57:21

sometimes. Yeah, but I

57:23

know Batman Beyond definitely

57:25

did. But that was like 18.

57:28

Yeah, I tend to think of... T-M-N-T

57:30

as an afternoon

57:33

cartoon. Like an

57:35

afternoon after-school

57:39

cartoon. But it

57:42

was on Saturday

57:44

mornings, for

57:46

sure. Yeah. I can

57:48

only think of

57:51

ones that I

57:53

absolutely did not

57:55

like. Such as?

57:57

Life with Louis.

58:00

a book about it was The

58:02

Tic. Yeah, yeah, no, that was

58:04

good. That was good. Yeah.

58:06

And that was definitely.

58:08

I loved the Tic

58:10

cartoon. It's like top

58:12

shelf top notch. When I

58:15

was smaller, because I was

58:17

like middle school when

58:19

the tick was on, probably.

58:22

When I was smaller, my

58:24

favorite Saturday morning

58:26

cartoon was captain

58:28

in. Right

58:31

because that was you you got

58:33

to see got to see the

58:36

video games that Just

58:38

apparently people in

58:40

complete isolation were

58:42

making stories about Right

58:44

the Mega Man who didn't

58:47

look anything like Mega Man

58:49

Yeah and had a weird

58:51

voice and had a weird voice

58:54

Simon Belmont who was

58:56

totally self-involved in

58:59

vain Working for

59:01

Mother Brain. But Samus

59:04

and Little Mac aren't

59:06

in it. Yeah. A

59:08

talking game boy for

59:10

some reason. Why didn't

59:12

they put Samus on it?

59:14

I don't know. A pit from

59:17

Kid Icarus. Again, don't

59:19

know why. Oh, you know, you

59:21

know what I liked more

59:23

than Captain Inn. The

59:26

Super Mario Brother Super

59:28

Show. Yeah, that was

59:30

much more accurate. That was good.

59:33

That was good. But I did watch

59:35

a lot of, I watched Captain Inn,

59:37

like, every, every Saturday, in

59:39

addition to favorite Saturday

59:41

morning cartoon, P-tizzle, the Bizzle,

59:44

Dizzle, wants to know if

59:46

we had a favorite serial

59:48

growing up. Uh, I mean, I've talked

59:51

about this before. I, like, boring

59:53

old men cereals. I like,

59:55

my favorite serial growing

59:57

up was Chrispics. Mm,

1:00:00

mmm. Mine was cinnamon to

1:00:02

scratch. How, how our tastes

1:00:04

have changed? I still love

1:00:06

cinnamon to scratch. Yeah, but

1:00:09

like I, I feel like

1:00:11

between the two of us,

1:00:13

I am now much more

1:00:15

of the sweets enjoyer. Yeah,

1:00:17

yeah. The only cereal I

1:00:19

really eat now is Cheerios,

1:00:22

and I don't eat it

1:00:24

in the morning. I eat

1:00:26

it like as a snack

1:00:28

in the evening sometimes. A

1:00:30

little treat for yourself. Well

1:00:32

treat have Lou have some

1:00:35

Cheerios. Oh and Hubert Vigilla

1:00:37

has a question are there

1:00:39

any Saturday morning kids shows

1:00:41

that only you seem to

1:00:43

remember? Life with Louis. Oh

1:00:45

people remember life with Louis.

1:00:48

Eight why would you make

1:00:50

it is my question. I

1:00:52

okay you know what I

1:00:54

hate it okay I I

1:00:56

understand not understanding life with

1:00:58

Louis this like weird nostalgia

1:01:01

cartoon for children based on

1:01:03

the standoff of Louis Anderson

1:01:05

in which the main character

1:01:07

was a an awful little

1:01:09

child Louis Anderson with a

1:01:11

terrible Louis Anderson voice and

1:01:14

I say that like no

1:01:16

disrespect to actual Louis Anderson

1:01:18

but like who looked at

1:01:20

That dude's stand up and

1:01:22

was like, let's make a

1:01:24

cartoon for children. Like that's

1:01:26

set in like the 1960s.

1:01:29

Yeah, bizarre. That's the thing

1:01:31

I don't get about it

1:01:33

is that it was like

1:01:35

this like 60s nostalgia show.

1:01:37

Very weird. Very weird like

1:01:39

what child would like that?

1:01:42

But do you remember the

1:01:44

Howie Mandel cartoon? Oh Bobby's

1:01:46

world. Yeah, it sucked Bobby's

1:01:48

world that sucked Bobby had

1:01:50

the most obnoxious Voice and

1:01:52

I think Howie Mandel did

1:01:55

it. Yeah, because it was

1:01:57

that like the Bobby voice

1:01:59

was a bit from his

1:02:01

act, because that was like

1:02:03

what he could do. Awful, awful.

1:02:06

Truly terrible. But my

1:02:08

answer for a show only I

1:02:10

remember is Camp Candy. Wow, yeah,

1:02:12

that's a, that one, I don't even

1:02:15

remember that one. I

1:02:17

only remember seeing ads for

1:02:19

it in old comics. I watched

1:02:21

Camp Candy, because I loved

1:02:24

John Candy. You may not know

1:02:26

this about me. I was a child

1:02:28

who was a weird comedy

1:02:30

nerd. Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. And

1:02:33

so they made a cartoon about

1:02:35

John Candy and I was like,

1:02:37

that's for me. And I watched

1:02:40

it. And it was very good.

1:02:42

They also made a Camp

1:02:44

Candy comic. There was a

1:02:47

Marvel comic of Camp Candy.

1:02:49

From Star Comics? It

1:02:51

was a straight up Marvel

1:02:53

Comics. Okay, that's wild.

1:02:56

to remind myself, I don't

1:02:58

think it was very good, but,

1:03:00

and I don't think John Candy

1:03:02

voiced himself, which is disappointing. One

1:03:05

of a long line of

1:03:07

cartoons about celebrities of

1:03:09

that era, where the celebrities

1:03:11

didn't voice themselves, like,

1:03:14

nobody voiced themselves on

1:03:16

Holcogas Rock and Wrestling. Right,

1:03:18

right, right. Not even Roddy Piper.

1:03:20

Yeah, bizarre. The Uncle Phil

1:03:22

slash Shredder did Junkyard Dog.

1:03:25

on that show. And Brad

1:03:27

Garrett was Holkogan.

1:03:29

That makes me feel like

1:03:31

Brad Garrett's probably racist. I

1:03:33

don't know that and that's

1:03:36

like not fair but that

1:03:38

is now a like a

1:03:40

thing I believe. I have

1:03:42

one that no one else

1:03:45

remembers because everyone

1:03:47

remembers everything but

1:03:49

I do think first of all

1:03:51

the number of cartoons for

1:03:53

children in the 80s and

1:03:55

90s that were based on

1:03:58

R-rated movies is insane. Yes. True.

1:04:00

There was a Rambo show

1:04:02

where Rambo had a full

1:04:04

Sailor Moon transformation sequence. Uh-huh.

1:04:06

We've done podcasts about it.

1:04:08

Yeah. I don't think anybody

1:04:10

would remember if we, well

1:04:13

Sean Baby and people would

1:04:15

I guess, but yeah. We've

1:04:17

definitely increased awareness of that

1:04:19

Rambo cartoon. The one that

1:04:21

always gets me though, and

1:04:23

I know we've talked about

1:04:25

it before, is the Conan

1:04:27

cartoon. Where they

1:04:29

made like a cartoon four

1:04:32

babies like four kids about

1:04:34

Conan a character who only

1:04:36

fucks and kills Very similar

1:04:38

to the Highlander cartoon That

1:04:40

took out the element of

1:04:42

Highlander where people get their

1:04:44

heads cut off. Do you

1:04:46

remember cops? Yes, the central

1:04:49

organization of police specialists There

1:04:51

was something about the animation

1:04:53

style of that show that

1:04:55

fascinated me. That was a,

1:04:57

that show was, I was

1:04:59

into it, I'm not gonna

1:05:01

lie, I was into it.

1:05:03

Same. Definitely a, a weird

1:05:05

show to be into, but

1:05:08

I did like that the

1:05:10

guy's name was, like his

1:05:12

last name was Ves, and

1:05:14

his nickname was Bulletproof? Uh-huh.

1:05:16

So his name was Bulletproof

1:05:18

Ves? Right. That's that holds

1:05:20

up. That's a good. That's

1:05:22

a good bit. I just

1:05:25

remember there being a bad

1:05:27

guy on that show who

1:05:29

had like a glass top

1:05:31

of his head. Uh-huh. And

1:05:33

so you could see his

1:05:35

brain. And that was on

1:05:37

a children's show. You see

1:05:39

the guys brain. Love to

1:05:42

see brains on children's shows.

1:05:44

They were fighting crime in

1:05:46

a future time. They sure

1:05:48

were. And the brain. G.I.J.

1:05:50

was cops, which is somehow

1:05:52

a worse premise than G.I.

1:05:54

Joe. His brain went all

1:05:56

the way to the top

1:05:59

of the the... In my

1:06:01

memory, his name was chrome

1:06:03

dome, but clearly that's

1:06:05

not right. Okay. Oh,

1:06:07

his name was Dr. Bad

1:06:09

Vives. That should be

1:06:11

your nickname. Let's retire

1:06:13

the Grassman. And now you're

1:06:16

Dr. Bad Vives. All right.

1:06:18

I don't, I feel like

1:06:20

that puts me in a

1:06:22

bad light, but sure. Moody

1:06:25

kittens on our discord

1:06:27

wants to know. If you've

1:06:29

got a favorite Lego

1:06:32

set. Like current or?

1:06:34

I would imagine so. The Daily

1:06:36

Bugles really good. Yeah,

1:06:38

you sent Bonito and

1:06:41

I a lot of pictures

1:06:43

as you were making the

1:06:45

Daily Bugle set. I sent

1:06:47

you a lot of pictures

1:06:49

of the ex-mention too. Yeah,

1:06:52

that's true. The ex-mention

1:06:54

is good. I think like... Also,

1:06:57

both of those AC got for

1:06:59

me, so like those have very

1:07:01

much like, there is affection

1:07:03

attached to them. Sentimental

1:07:06

value. Sentimental value to those,

1:07:08

because the the purest act

1:07:10

of love is to get

1:07:13

someone a $300 Lego set, I

1:07:15

think. But yeah, Daley Bugle's really

1:07:17

good. I think of the

1:07:19

Marvel sets. I've built the

1:07:21

Daily Bugle, Dr. Strange's

1:07:24

mansion. and AC built

1:07:26

Avengers Tower. And I think

1:07:28

of the Marvel Sets Daily

1:07:30

Bugle is far and away, like

1:07:33

the most fun for a fan,

1:07:35

just because of the amount

1:07:37

of like obscure characters

1:07:40

and like fun little in-jokes

1:07:42

and like the structure of

1:07:44

the building is really cool.

1:07:46

Like Peter's got an office,

1:07:48

but it's like in a

1:07:51

storage closet behind a bunch

1:07:53

of boxes. It's it's a

1:07:55

really really good set and also

1:07:57

was a really great Christmas.

1:08:00

present that she reversed heisted

1:08:02

into the house. Based on

1:08:04

the photos you said, I

1:08:06

thought it looked really, really

1:08:09

fun. Yeah. Rivendale is also

1:08:11

really good, but like Rivendale

1:08:13

is, Rivendale is a really

1:08:16

good set, but it's also

1:08:18

like, this is the place

1:08:20

where they go and people

1:08:22

just kind of like sit

1:08:25

around a table. Baradour, again,

1:08:27

AC built Baradour and it

1:08:29

like looks super cool. But

1:08:32

like. They never go to

1:08:34

Baradour? So like they need

1:08:36

to make like a Helms

1:08:38

Deep or a Pelanor Fields.

1:08:41

I guess probably they wouldn't

1:08:43

do Pelanor Fields. But they

1:08:45

need to do like a

1:08:48

Helms Deep Legoset with that

1:08:50

one Olympic torch fork. Who

1:08:52

blows up the wall? Yeah.

1:08:54

Minus Tereth? They could do

1:08:57

Minus Tereth. They could do

1:08:59

Minus Tereth. They want to

1:09:01

get wild. They could do

1:09:04

Minus Morgal. All right, our

1:09:06

next question from discord. This

1:09:08

is a two Part question,

1:09:10

but I'll make them one

1:09:13

from the true elect and

1:09:15

Julie Louis Dreyfus Who's your

1:09:17

favorite Muppet and who's your

1:09:20

least favorite Muppet? Favorite Muppet's

1:09:22

Gonzo, obviously? Yeah, it's hard.

1:09:24

It's hard not to say

1:09:26

Gonzo, right? Sorry, but you

1:09:29

and me are going to

1:09:31

have the same answer as

1:09:33

are all right-thinking people. Like,

1:09:36

I love other muppets. I

1:09:38

love Kermit. I love Miss

1:09:40

Piggy. I love Fuzzy. But

1:09:42

it's Gonzo. It's Gonzo. He

1:09:45

is like, when I was

1:09:47

a kid, like, I described

1:09:49

myself as a weirdo, because

1:09:52

that's what Gonzo was. Yeah.

1:09:55

I like that Gonzo is sort of a

1:09:57

mystery. What is he?

1:10:00

An artist. Yeah, he's

1:10:02

an artist. There's a

1:10:04

lot about Gonzo that is

1:10:06

just unexplained and that's honestly

1:10:08

great. Yeah. Um,

1:10:11

do you have a least favorite Muppet? I

1:10:15

honestly don't care for Robin.

1:10:20

Robin Kermit's nephew? Kermit's nephew.

1:10:22

Yeah. For

1:10:24

any particular reason. Like,

1:10:28

why? Like

1:10:31

looking at Robin like, do we need this?

1:10:35

Kind of like Scrappy -Doo. Yeah.

1:10:39

I mean, not like, you know, annoying, but

1:10:41

like. He's not annoying like Scrappy -Doo. Yeah. I'm

1:10:43

trying to think of like, if there's, I

1:10:47

mean, I generally like, like I like a lot.

1:10:49

I like pretty much all of them the same

1:10:51

amount. And then it's like

1:10:53

Kermit, Piggy, and Gonzo. Yeah.

1:10:55

You know? Yeah. If you want me to say

1:10:57

an obscure Muppet that I love, um,

1:11:00

Guy Smiley. A

1:11:03

word? A

1:11:05

word, yeah. Shocking. Uh,

1:11:11

I do, I like Guy Smiley.

1:11:13

I will say, where

1:11:15

was Sam the Eagle on January 6th? That's

1:11:17

my question. My, my

1:11:19

answer for at least my favorite Muppet

1:11:21

by default, I think, is Sam the

1:11:23

Eagle. But they

1:11:25

also need him. They,

1:11:29

they, like, they, they need a, they need

1:11:31

a, a straight Eagle. Yeah.

1:11:34

They need, they need

1:11:36

somebody there to be the

1:11:38

uptight. Bad

1:11:42

guy. Sometimes. So, so

1:11:44

I understand why he's necessary, but

1:11:46

also like, I don't have to

1:11:48

like him. So,

1:11:52

I think I would settle on,

1:11:54

on Sam the Eagle. Interesting,

1:11:58

interesting, interesting. Our buddy

1:12:01

Ben, Franceford Nantu on

1:12:03

Blue Sky, says related

1:12:05

to the question about

1:12:07

the favorite bad episode

1:12:09

of Star Trek, what

1:12:11

is the most next

1:12:13

generation episode, parentheses complementary,

1:12:15

and what is the

1:12:17

most next generation episode,

1:12:19

parentheses derogatory? This is

1:12:21

the only question that

1:12:23

I saw before we

1:12:25

started recording. Yeah. And

1:12:27

I've been thinking about

1:12:30

it in the hours

1:12:32

since. And I think

1:12:34

I have my answer.

1:12:36

Okay, let's hear it.

1:12:38

The most Star Trek

1:12:40

episode, complementary, I think

1:12:42

is measure of a

1:12:44

man. That tracks, I

1:12:46

can see that. It's

1:12:48

about data, which is

1:12:50

inherently very Star Trek,

1:12:52

the next generation. It's

1:12:54

got. a big morality

1:12:56

play. It's got a

1:12:58

woman who is like

1:13:01

passionately horny for for

1:13:03

Picard and Picard being

1:13:05

real uncomfortable about it.

1:13:07

Yeah, yeah, it's got

1:13:09

a great speech. It

1:13:11

sets up continuity that

1:13:13

comes back later. Data's

1:13:15

Day is a sequel

1:13:17

to that as is

1:13:19

like a lot of

1:13:21

the stuff from Picard

1:13:23

that I'm not talking

1:13:25

about because it sucks.

1:13:27

But yeah, like it's,

1:13:30

I think that's the

1:13:32

most next gen. It

1:13:34

has Riker doing like

1:13:36

saying a pithy line

1:13:38

and immediately regretting it.

1:13:40

Right. Riker being forced

1:13:42

to do a job

1:13:44

he doesn't want to

1:13:46

do, which I think

1:13:48

is Riker all the

1:13:50

time. Pinocchio is broken.

1:13:52

His strings have been

1:13:54

cut. It's I feel

1:13:56

like that's when they

1:13:58

kind of We're

1:14:00

still writing Riker as basically

1:14:03

Kirk. Like

1:14:06

first and second season, Riker

1:14:08

is just straight -up Kirk. Yeah,

1:14:11

that's his character

1:14:13

function, because it doesn't

1:14:15

make sense for the captain of the ship to

1:14:17

be the man of action. My

1:14:22

answer for this is

1:14:24

kind of obvious, but

1:14:26

I think it's right.

1:14:28

The most TNG episode

1:14:30

of Next Generation, Complementary,

1:14:32

is the last episode, all

1:14:35

the good things. Yeah. Because

1:14:38

it has

1:14:40

the early

1:14:42

episodes era in

1:14:45

those uniforms with Tasha Yar, it

1:14:48

has segments set in

1:14:50

the future, it

1:14:52

has all kinds of

1:14:55

stuff about complicated

1:14:57

character relationships, particularly the

1:14:59

Troy -Wolf relationship. It

1:15:02

features a character being

1:15:04

tortured and not understanding

1:15:07

what's going on, which

1:15:10

happens to Picard, and

1:15:12

trying to convince everyone that something

1:15:14

is happening and they're like,

1:15:16

what are you talking about? It

1:15:18

has a weird science puzzle

1:15:20

with the anomaly that keeps getting

1:15:23

bigger as they go further

1:15:25

back in time,

1:15:27

and it has Q. Yeah.

1:15:30

That's all good

1:15:32

thoughts, all good things.

1:15:35

All good things. Oh, and it has a poker game. And

1:15:38

it has a poker game at the

1:15:40

end, yeah. Yeah. So what is

1:15:42

your most TNG episode derogatory? Buddy, this

1:15:44

was a slam dunk. Hit me. The

1:15:47

first duty. Derogatory?

1:15:51

Yes. Interesting.

1:15:54

Because it's not a

1:15:56

bad episode. Also,

1:15:58

I swore that

1:16:00

I do... what your

1:16:03

answer to that was going to

1:16:05

be, and it's not what it

1:16:07

was. Oh, interesting. No, like, not

1:16:10

a bad episode, but it is

1:16:12

the most next-gen in a way

1:16:14

where it's like, I don't care

1:16:17

about any of this. It's about

1:16:19

Wesley. Yeah. It's a weird, like,

1:16:22

you know, it's a morality play.

1:16:24

It's got a great speech from

1:16:26

Picard. It's got Boothby the Groundskeeper.

1:16:29

It's got Star Fleet Academy. So

1:16:31

it's all like, there's no, there's

1:16:33

no alien stuff. It's all Star

1:16:36

Fleet bullshit. It's all Star Fleet.

1:16:38

Yeah. Yeah, which is very next

1:16:41

gen. I love that episode, but

1:16:43

I don't think you're wrong. Yeah.

1:16:45

No, like, it's, it's, I feel

1:16:48

like, it's this one or the

1:16:50

one where the traveler comes back

1:16:52

and recruits Wesley to be a

1:16:55

fucking. Queen Sauce

1:16:57

Hotter Rock. You know

1:16:59

what? That episode is

1:17:02

not very good. Yeah.

1:17:04

I finished the entire

1:17:06

show. Marlene and I

1:17:08

have now finished the

1:17:11

entire show. And I

1:17:13

forgot how kind of

1:17:15

bad season seven is.

1:17:17

Or do you mean

1:17:20

kind of great? It's

1:17:22

kind of bad. Every

1:17:24

episode like... Sincerely, every

1:17:26

other episode is about

1:17:28

some crew members' family.

1:17:31

Family members we've never

1:17:33

heard or seen or

1:17:35

seen before. Like, there's

1:17:37

an episode about Jordi's

1:17:40

mom. There's an episode

1:17:42

about Troy's dad. There's

1:17:44

an episode about... Like

1:17:47

there's more family members who

1:17:49

appear at that I'm not

1:17:52

thinking of data's mom Data's

1:17:54

mom. That's right isn't that

1:17:57

one? There's so much just

1:17:59

like I don't know.

1:18:01

Let's bring in a

1:18:03

family member. Dr. Crusher's

1:18:06

grandmother, perhaps? Yes, all

1:18:08

of Dr. Crusher's, all

1:18:11

of the women in

1:18:13

Dr. Crusher's family.

1:18:15

Season 7 is a steep drop

1:18:18

from the highs of seasons

1:18:20

5 and 6, I would

1:18:22

say. Disagree. It really picks

1:18:25

back up in the finale.

1:18:27

My answer for the most...

1:18:30

T&G episode derogatory,

1:18:33

which again, might be an

1:18:35

obvious answer, but I

1:18:37

think it's correct. It's

1:18:39

Shades of Gray from

1:18:41

season two, which is the

1:18:43

clip show. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

1:18:46

by volume, that's the

1:18:48

most T&G? By volume.

1:18:51

And also, it is an

1:18:53

episode about like a

1:18:56

weird unexplained virus.

1:18:58

That one's that

1:19:00

one's arguably the

1:19:02

worst episode of the

1:19:04

series Yeah, is that the

1:19:06

one you thought I was gonna

1:19:09

say No, the one I thought

1:19:11

you were gonna say was

1:19:13

the child see that

1:19:15

one's that one's Arguably

1:19:17

the worst episode of

1:19:19

the series. Oh, I

1:19:21

have a different worst

1:19:24

episode, but but it's

1:19:26

in the mix. Yeah

1:19:28

But like, it's like part of

1:19:30

the reason that I think it's, it's

1:19:32

the worst, like I don't think

1:19:34

it's, it counts as being

1:19:36

very next generation because it's,

1:19:39

it's a recycled script. Right,

1:19:41

it's, it's, yeah, like there are

1:19:43

worst episodes that are bad

1:19:46

because they're not exemplary

1:19:48

of next generation. My nominee

1:19:50

for worst episode of the

1:19:52

series is Code of Honor,

1:19:54

which is like the fourth episode.

1:19:57

Which is bad? What?

1:20:00

because it's bad. So well-intentioned.

1:20:02

It's sort of racist. It's

1:20:04

also bad because it doesn't

1:20:07

quite feel like bad good

1:20:09

is up the long ladder

1:20:11

with the space Irish. That

1:20:14

was bad and comes around

1:20:16

to almost being good. Yeah,

1:20:19

because it's bad. So well-intentioned.

1:20:21

That goes around to being

1:20:23

bad. And it is so

1:20:26

bad that it almost looks

1:20:28

like a background of being

1:20:30

good. I love up the

1:20:33

long ladder. It sucks. Scott

1:20:35

HPDX asks on Discord, which

1:20:38

comics creators could win the

1:20:40

royal rumble? Hmm. Hmm. And

1:20:42

now is this just a

1:20:45

royal rumble of comics creators?

1:20:47

Or are they in there

1:20:50

with like professional athletes? Are

1:20:52

they in there with like,

1:20:54

yeah, like Seth Rollins or

1:20:57

whoever? First thought is Carla.

1:20:59

Interesting, interesting. Yeah, like I

1:21:01

can, there would be some,

1:21:04

there would be some deviousness

1:21:06

involved in that. Yeah, Carla

1:21:09

Pacheca. I think any e-com

1:21:11

is creator we pick, except

1:21:13

for maybe Jeremy Whitley, who

1:21:16

I think could could muscle

1:21:18

out, potentially Greg Ruka, it's

1:21:20

gonna have to use cunning

1:21:23

and deviousness to win. Yeah,

1:21:25

but Jeremy lifts. Jeremy lifts,

1:21:28

yeah. That's like, here's the

1:21:30

thing. If it's a Royal

1:21:32

Rumble with all comics creators,

1:21:35

that's a very different thing

1:21:37

than the Royal Rumble, because

1:21:40

the worst pro wrestler, I

1:21:42

think, could probably kick the

1:21:44

toughest comics creators. I don't

1:21:47

think I'm going to make

1:21:49

anybody mad by saying that.

1:21:51

Right? Like I think you're

1:21:54

right, yeah. If your job

1:21:56

is working out and then

1:21:59

performing athletics, then your... that

1:22:01

you're probably tougher than someone

1:22:04

whose job is writing or

1:22:06

drawing? I mean, I think

1:22:08

there are comics creators

1:22:11

who are tough, stronger

1:22:13

than you might think. Like,

1:22:15

like, Phil Jimenez looks

1:22:17

like a guy who works out. Yeah,

1:22:19

yeah. No, a lot of comics

1:22:22

creators work out. A

1:22:24

lot of comics creators

1:22:26

are in shape. It's not

1:22:28

their job. It's not their job,

1:22:30

yeah. Yeah. Like, like, I have

1:22:33

always said, like, I think Scott

1:22:35

Snyder's got some, Scott Snyder

1:22:37

got a lot of fight in

1:22:40

him. I think. Right, like, we

1:22:42

know that about him. I

1:22:44

don't think, honestly, I don't think

1:22:46

any of them could win. I

1:22:48

think some of them could get,

1:22:51

like, the best they're going

1:22:53

to do is get some

1:22:55

eliminations. I think. There are

1:22:58

quite a few who would do,

1:23:00

who would have a better performance

1:23:02

than say the Drew Kerry performance.

1:23:04

Right, right, right. Drew Kerry who

1:23:06

eliminated himself when he saw Cain,

1:23:08

which was the smart move. Yeah.

1:23:10

You don't think there was a chance

1:23:13

that Drew Kerry was going to win

1:23:15

the Royal Rumble and go on to

1:23:17

main event, Wrestlemania.

1:23:19

Which I, was that 16 or 17

1:23:21

that he would have made a better,

1:23:24

because if it's a very different history.

1:23:26

It was it was 2001.

1:23:28

Yeah, so that you drew

1:23:30

Kerry in the main event

1:23:33

of WrestleMania

1:23:35

17 against the rock. I

1:23:37

need this rock more

1:23:39

than you could possibly

1:23:42

imagine. Someone please

1:23:44

recut the My Way

1:23:46

promo with Drew Kerry doing

1:23:49

it. And then at the

1:23:51

end he says, now remember.

1:23:54

Closest bid without

1:23:56

going over wins. I'll

1:23:58

tell you the same. name

1:24:00

that came to mind was

1:24:02

Chip. Because Chip would come

1:24:05

up with something. You think

1:24:07

he could scheme his way

1:24:09

into it? He would play

1:24:11

mind games. Interesting, interesting, interesting.

1:24:14

But I think you're probably

1:24:16

right that very few comedies

1:24:18

creators could actually best pro-wresslers

1:24:21

in there. I've been at

1:24:23

a con and I've seen

1:24:25

comic creators and I've seen

1:24:27

comic creators and been like...

1:24:30

Wow that guy is that

1:24:32

you know RIP but John

1:24:34

Cassidy I was like when

1:24:37

I saw him in a

1:24:39

con I was like wow

1:24:41

he's like he's tall he's

1:24:43

in shape I've never seen

1:24:46

a comics creator and gone

1:24:48

oh in person that dude

1:24:50

is even more jacked which

1:24:53

happens every time I've seen

1:24:55

a pro wrestler I I

1:24:57

brought up Phil Jimenez Just

1:24:59

a name off the top

1:25:02

of my head. So I

1:25:04

went and looked at his

1:25:06

Instagram. I think Phil Jimenez

1:25:09

might do okay. I'm looking

1:25:11

at that picture of him

1:25:13

in a tank top. He's

1:25:15

pretty jacked. That's a pro

1:25:18

wrestler build man. Yeah, I'm

1:25:20

looking at his Instagram. Oh,

1:25:22

his first one is a

1:25:25

gym, is a gym selfie.

1:25:27

Yeah. Phil Jimenez is good

1:25:29

looking. He is jacked. Not

1:25:31

almighty. That beard with the

1:25:34

gray? That's like not fair.

1:25:36

That dude, that, damn. That

1:25:38

dude is jacked. Hey, Phil,

1:25:41

you're good at drawing. You

1:25:43

don't have to do all

1:25:45

that. Yeah, Phil, Phil might,

1:25:47

Philimenez might do it, honestly.

1:25:50

Like, I think. I'm looking

1:25:52

at him and I'm like,

1:25:54

can we get him a

1:25:57

developmental contract? Can we get

1:25:59

him down full sale? Yeah,

1:26:01

man. McGrath at stupid Matt.bsky.social

1:26:03

asks hypothetically if you

1:26:06

were to revive panel

1:26:08

president for one more

1:26:11

entry where would Goku

1:26:13

place? Here's the thing I've

1:26:15

said this before that if I

1:26:18

if I had my my Dragon

1:26:20

Ball wish but I couldn't

1:26:22

use it to actually

1:26:25

like change anything important

1:26:27

two of my wishes would Uh,

1:26:30

that Goku was as

1:26:32

good a character as

1:26:34

Superman, and Superman

1:26:36

Comics were as good as

1:26:38

Dragon Mall. Because neither

1:26:40

of those is true. Goku

1:26:43

is a fascinating character.

1:26:45

I like Goku, but

1:26:47

Goku is not even my

1:26:50

favorite character in

1:26:52

Dragon Ball. Like, true. As-

1:26:54

Who is your favorite character

1:26:57

in Dragon Ball?

1:26:59

Go-huh. Why Matt? Don't you

1:27:01

tell me why you thought that? Because

1:27:03

Vigita's, Vigita's an

1:27:06

interesting character. Vigita

1:27:08

is an interesting character.

1:27:11

Vigita is the only character

1:27:13

I've ever seen have a

1:27:15

redemption arc without changing

1:27:17

or making up for

1:27:19

anything he did. Absolutely,

1:27:21

yes. We just decided, like,

1:27:23

very Randy Orton, ask,

1:27:25

we just decided he's

1:27:28

a face now. Well,

1:27:30

his behavior... his

1:27:32

behavior... he stopped

1:27:34

trying to kill

1:27:36

Goku. Mostly. Like

1:27:38

he gave up on

1:27:41

conquering Earth. Yeah, that's

1:27:43

true. The planet's

1:27:46

saying. Yeah, he

1:27:48

did... The Jita

1:27:50

was involved in

1:27:52

several genocides. Oh

1:27:55

yeah, absolutely true.

1:27:57

Like he's introduced and he's

1:28:00

like on a planet of like

1:28:02

lizard people that he has just

1:28:04

murdered with Napa and he's like

1:28:07

eating like roasting them over a

1:28:09

fire and eating them like Virginia's

1:28:11

a full cannibal and they just

1:28:14

like none of that's ever addressed.

1:28:16

All right I'm looking at the

1:28:18

panel president list now I'm not

1:28:21

sure Goku goes to the top

1:28:23

ten. God it's been a hot

1:28:25

minute look me to the panel

1:28:28

president list I haven't seen it

1:28:30

in a minute. It's on the

1:28:33

wiki, yeah, I'll link you to

1:28:35

it. Number 10 is Sailor Moon,

1:28:37

and I don't think Goku goes

1:28:40

above Sailor Moon. Sailor Moon's a

1:28:42

much better character than Goku. Like,

1:28:44

honestly, a much more complex character,

1:28:47

even. I don't think he goes

1:28:49

in the top 100. I think

1:28:51

Dr. McNinja is a better, like,

1:28:54

like, character, than Coco. But

1:28:57

above Ninjak we have

1:28:59

Raphael. There's no way

1:29:01

Goku is above Raphael.

1:29:03

In fact, right below

1:29:05

Ninjak we have Michelangelo.

1:29:07

What were we on

1:29:10

when we made that

1:29:12

decision? Oh, we had

1:29:14

to like flip a

1:29:16

coin between Michelangelo and

1:29:18

Raphael. I remember. Yeah,

1:29:20

I think, I mean,

1:29:22

he's as a character.

1:29:24

He's about as good

1:29:27

as Aunt May. Maybe

1:29:29

probably not as good

1:29:31

as Aunt May. I'll

1:29:33

say this, Goku is

1:29:35

an enigma in a

1:29:37

way very few other

1:29:39

characters are enigmas. The

1:29:42

fact that Goku doesn't

1:29:44

know that children... Goku

1:29:46

doesn't know about kissing,

1:29:48

but he has children.

1:29:50

Yes. And

1:29:52

when Gogu, like that's literally what

1:29:54

Vagito says. When Gogu is like,

1:29:57

what are they doing? Vagito's like,

1:29:59

you have to. two children. And

1:30:02

Gokoo goes, what does that have

1:30:04

to do with kissing? Now

1:30:06

I did get a zen

1:30:08

for Christmas. I got a fan

1:30:10

comic called The Matter of

1:30:13

Pride. The premise of

1:30:15

that comic is that

1:30:17

that's Gokoo-Fucking with Vigita

1:30:19

in order to get

1:30:21

his say and pride

1:30:23

to convince him to fuck

1:30:26

him. And beautifully drawn

1:30:28

comic. By the way, yeah, this

1:30:30

is a gift from any crayton.

1:30:32

And honestly, I need one panel

1:30:35

of Goku and like, I was

1:30:37

just fucking with him. And then

1:30:39

I, and then Goku becomes like,

1:30:41

like moves up 15 spots on

1:30:44

the list. I think Goku would

1:30:46

go above Ultimate Aunt May, who's

1:30:48

at 229. Yeah, that's, that's, I

1:30:50

think that's fair. Goku's probably

1:30:53

more interesting than Ultron.

1:30:56

But he ate better than

1:30:58

Omega Red. He ain't better

1:31:00

than Omega Red. Omega Red's

1:31:02

got a mutin death factor. And

1:31:04

I don't think he's better than

1:31:06

Maggie Sawyer. So he would go on

1:31:08

the list 226. Yeah. Above Dodge from

1:31:11

Lock and Key. You can put that,

1:31:13

you can put that in an asterisk,

1:31:15

uh, Goku was number 225. And

1:31:17

a half. That makes it officially

1:31:20

550 entries on the panel president

1:31:22

list. We got a lot, we

1:31:24

breaked a lot of characters for

1:31:27

that. Holy Moly. Yeah, I

1:31:29

didn't realize we did that

1:31:31

many. We did a lot. All right,

1:31:33

here's our next discord

1:31:36

question. Go on to the 500,

1:31:38

for sure. Go on might be in

1:31:40

the top 50. So cold ACC

1:31:42

wants to know, hey, how

1:31:44

come they didn't just put

1:31:46

Jimmy Carter in a Lazarus

1:31:48

pit? Great question. That

1:31:50

is a great question. I would

1:31:53

say that, um, as the only president...

1:31:55

in the history of the United States

1:31:57

of America who has the potential to

1:31:59

go to heaven. That

1:32:01

is true. I would not

1:32:03

deny him that eternal reward.

1:32:07

Right. Let Jimmy Carter

1:32:09

rest. Yeah. Very

1:32:13

accurate. The only president in

1:32:15

American history who might see the

1:32:17

light of heaven. That

1:32:21

includes Lincoln, by the way. Sorry,

1:32:24

Abe. Yeah,

1:32:26

I don't know. I think Abe might have

1:32:28

had some bad opinions. He

1:32:30

had, look, he had a

1:32:32

really good opinion. He had one really

1:32:34

good opinion. Yeah. Ted

1:32:38

Anderson, you might be the first president who had

1:32:41

a good opinion. The

1:32:44

previous 15. Ted

1:32:47

Anderson asks, you guys like

1:32:49

ramen, not at the instant

1:32:51

stuff, the real kind. Oh,

1:32:53

yeah. Yeah. I am

1:32:55

famously the anti Bonito

1:32:57

in one regard. And

1:33:00

that I don't like soup. Mmm.

1:33:04

Bonito, to

1:33:06

my knowledge, only eats soup.

1:33:10

It's certainly the only thing that

1:33:13

he publicly speaks about eating. Yeah,

1:33:15

I don't love

1:33:17

soup, but I do like ramen.

1:33:20

So that's

1:33:23

my that's my soup asterisk.

1:33:25

Now, I tend to

1:33:27

prefer the ramen that is

1:33:29

the drier ramen, the kind that

1:33:31

has like chili oil and not broth. Yeah,

1:33:35

that's that's my preference as well. I like

1:33:37

a ramen with broth just fine. But

1:33:39

like I love there's a

1:33:41

ramen place back in

1:33:43

Durham called Dashi, that

1:33:45

they do an incredible

1:33:48

like chili oil and

1:33:50

like pork belly ramen

1:33:52

that is so

1:33:54

good. Yeah, my

1:33:57

favorite part of

1:33:59

ramen is usually

1:34:02

the pork belly

1:34:04

if there's pork. belly

1:34:06

in it. Yeah, ma'am. Yeah, we're

1:34:09

really good. Yeah, yeah. I don't

1:34:11

really know what this question is

1:34:13

asking, but Chris, maybe you know

1:34:16

more. King of Doma wants to

1:34:18

know, thoughts in general over DC's

1:34:20

output on Webtoon, if any. No

1:34:23

idea. I have no awareness of

1:34:25

it to speak of. Yeah, I

1:34:27

have not read a, I have

1:34:30

not read a panel of a

1:34:32

Webtoon thing. Yeah. I had like

1:34:35

a like a like they had

1:34:37

a big setup it had to

1:34:39

have been a treatment of creators

1:34:42

and I also know that there's

1:34:44

like a they're doing a dimension

1:34:46

20 thing. So I'll read that

1:34:49

for sure. But I. I had

1:34:51

like a like they had a

1:34:53

big setup. It had to have

1:34:56

been a heroes com. Right. Do

1:34:58

you remember their big setup where

1:35:01

they were like giving away like.

1:35:03

rocks glasses and and yes I

1:35:05

still I still have my my

1:35:08

tumbler my my little somewhere around

1:35:10

here web tuned glass which that

1:35:12

was at heroes con as I

1:35:15

recall yeah but they I remember

1:35:17

them having set up set a

1:35:19

bunch of cons yeah but I

1:35:22

mean like that was the one

1:35:24

that like I actually like went

1:35:27

up to and that they were

1:35:29

like giving away to everybody or

1:35:31

just to creators well they had

1:35:34

like a little lounge bottles of

1:35:36

water and yeah and they would

1:35:38

bring you in there if you

1:35:41

were a creator they would bring

1:35:43

you in there and like talk

1:35:45

to you like it was a

1:35:48

Scientology inventory right which weirded me

1:35:50

out yeah no like it screamed

1:35:53

venture capital well or or cult

1:35:55

same thing But yeah, but I

1:35:57

got my Tumblr. I got my

1:36:00

little glass either way. I'll take

1:36:02

free drinkware anytime it's

1:36:05

available. I've gone

1:36:07

and looked at what

1:36:10

DC has put out

1:36:12

via Webtoon. There's

1:36:15

Batman Wayne Family

1:36:17

Adventures. There is

1:36:20

Vixen NYC. There

1:36:23

is Zetana and

1:36:25

the Ripper. And Red

1:36:27

Hood Outlaws. Well, that

1:36:29

one I'm not going to

1:36:32

read. Yeah, I do not. I'm unfamiliar

1:36:34

with any of

1:36:36

the creators. If any of

1:36:38

them are good, let us know.

1:36:41

I like reading good comics.

1:36:43

Yeah. I mean, Wayne Family

1:36:46

Adventures looks like it

1:36:48

could be fun. Yeah, I mean,

1:36:50

like I like those characters.

1:36:53

Yeah. But otherwise, no

1:36:56

opinion. Uninformed. largely

1:36:58

on that. Ashley Buchanan has

1:37:01

this question for us.