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Yes, lion. Oh, man, so
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2:49
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2:53
be at the Barclays, two sold-out
2:55
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2:59
the third. I'm like, no. We're not, we're
3:01
not, we're not going to treat
3:04
feet. Can't do a treat, no.
3:06
three back-to-back exactly I'm not doing
3:08
that we just do it back-to-back
3:10
like Jordan 96-97 you know how
3:12
crazy that is because there's people
3:14
that have to like cancel shows
3:16
rope off part of the stadium
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but you they actually had to add a
3:20
show for you yeah yeah that's too easy
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man remember I put the work in over
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the years the catalog is big that's right
3:27
the fun business is big and the
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people miss me I haven't been here
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in a minute let's talk about Brooklyn
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anthem How many times you think you're
3:36
gonna do that song? Several. Several times, at
3:38
least five. And that's what the people say.
3:41
Make sure you know the song, word for
3:43
word, from start to finish. I'm like, I
3:45
wrote the song. Right. Come on. Yeah, but
3:47
it's gonna be crazy. And everybody's pulling up,
3:49
I know. I can't even imagine what type
3:51
of guess. I mean, because a lot of artists
3:53
live out here too. Yeah. I know, come on,
3:56
this is New York, man. Yeah. Yeah. So a
3:58
lot of lot of artists coming up. You know
4:00
what I mean? A lot of people are
4:02
going to pull up. You did the summer
4:04
card yet? Yes ma'am. Is it being debuted
4:07
or something or? Yeah, definitely. I
4:09
don't know when, but it's coming. It
4:11
should be at the Barclay. Very soon.
4:13
I'm not sure. Maybe that's too
4:15
soon, but it's definitely. We need
4:17
a snippet or something, like a
4:19
little snippet. You gotta do that. Yeah,
4:22
you're gonna go viral. My
4:24
manager has it. If he
4:26
wants to drop a snippet,
4:28
it's angeles. Come on. Let's
4:30
get it. Let's go viral.
4:32
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Way up!
4:34
That's it. Now listen, oh, champagne?
4:36
Yeah, I respect. Yeah, I'm on
4:39
a liquid diet. Okay, I see that.
4:41
And I also saw what you've
4:43
been doing for the economy
4:45
with your rum. Yes, it's
4:47
crazy, right? Right. I had
4:49
a run before I got
4:52
arrested. I went to prison.
4:54
And that did well too. But
4:56
this one? People are going
4:58
crazy over this. Crazy. I'm
5:01
telling you man. One of
5:03
them is a ramping shop.
5:05
I recommend that for you.
5:07
Okay, why for me? Because
5:09
it got that biggarten and
5:11
it's got that thing for
5:14
the ladies that that get
5:16
them going. Yes. Um, I want
5:18
to take it back a little bit.
5:20
How was it, how was it doing
5:22
at time though, bro? Like, because I
5:24
did time, but when I did time,
5:26
I wasn't ever in, I wasn't in
5:28
the industry. You was already a
5:30
huge artist. Yeah, true that. How
5:32
was that doing time like that? I
5:34
mean, prison is prison, man.
5:36
Regardless, but, you know, I mean,
5:39
just, it's Jamaica, so, you know, but
5:41
yeah. I mean, I, I was in
5:43
prison, I was rocking, rocking the Rolex,
5:46
rocking the Rolex, So it's kind of
5:48
different. Right. But it was a dungeon
5:50
still because it's not like an American
5:52
prison. Yeah. You know I mean we
5:54
still didn't have toilets in the cells
5:56
up to a point. I remember when that
5:58
was a big story. The toilets, you got
6:01
to shit on newspaper and wrap
6:03
that shit up. Because the other
6:05
problem is also that, you know,
6:07
aside from that Graves' disease. Yeah,
6:09
I'm still suffering from it now, too. So I've
6:11
been to it, man, but. What are you going
6:13
to do, cry? No, you've got to just pull
6:15
your pants up and push, man. That's it. Yeah,
6:17
I remember when the story first broke, because I was, you
6:19
know, on air, and I was talking about it here, and I
6:21
was like, this is crazy, like, that you had to go to
6:23
jail. But how was it to be able, when you found out,
6:25
you were coming home? Because that had to be like, I don't
6:27
know, what's about to happen? Like, like, when they said, yeah, yeah,
6:30
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's said, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's
6:32
free, he's free, yeah, he's free, he's free, yeah, yeah, he's free,
6:34
he's free, he's free, yeah, he's free, yeah, he's free, he's, he's,
6:36
he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's I'm
6:38
from Jamaica, I'm from the ghetto,
6:40
like we don't get excited easily.
6:42
Like we gotta open the gate
6:45
and when I walk out, that's
6:47
when I know I'm out. So you gave the
6:49
time back? Yes, basically, yeah, they
6:51
gave me the 35 years, I gave them
6:54
back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, trust me. So that's
6:56
why I'm here now. You know what I
6:58
mean? I'm free, my record is clean.
7:00
So I don't long have a conviction
7:02
to be clear. You know what I
7:04
mean? So I'm out, I'm blessed. God
7:06
is the greatest man. We're just doing
7:08
it. I see all these dancehall artists now
7:10
finally being able to get their visas
7:13
too. And it's a huge deal because
7:15
it's nothing like being able to travel
7:17
and tour to connect with people in
7:19
that way. Not just to connect with
7:21
people, but to get the money. Yeah, we
7:24
never forget that. Yes, that's what I'm saying
7:26
because that's what you work for at the
7:28
end of the day, right? You work to
7:30
collect that bread. So it. bounty killer,
7:32
you know, that's my boss.
7:35
He got his visa recently
7:37
too. So he's back in
7:40
America. Mm-hmm. See? Everybody's in
7:42
bounty back? Yeah, he's back.
7:44
He's in Miami. Right now, he's
7:47
in Florida. Yeah. Were you
7:49
watching the verses in Florida?
7:51
Yeah. Were you watching the
7:53
verses in real time? Yes,
7:55
in prison, of course. That
7:58
was the best versus. That
8:00
was crazy. Big up to Swiss, man.
8:02
Like, that concept is, yeah. If you
8:05
did that, who would it be? Moveda, Moveda.
8:07
He did it already. Oh, that's
8:09
right. Yeah, I mean, come on.
8:11
Yeah, that would be crazy. I
8:13
remember that. That was a wild
8:15
time. Wild, man. And it worked.
8:17
Looking back in hindsight, it did. It
8:20
was good for the music for the
8:22
culture. It pushed us both as artists
8:24
as individuals and it spread the genre
8:26
further to places like Africa like So
8:28
it was it was good for the
8:31
culture. I think it's kind of like hip-hop
8:33
too. The beef is good for the it's
8:35
good because it does create like for you
8:37
to create Yeah, exactly you got
8:39
it now go deep so the
8:42
art improves right right right because
8:44
it's competitive even spice spice just
8:46
put out a dis record you know
8:48
for but it actually is doing really
8:50
well spice this everybody that's the queen
8:52
like spice go in every time I
8:55
see her I always think about you
8:57
when I see spice I'm always like
8:59
I do every time you'll see about
9:01
whenever I interviewed her I always would
9:03
be like how's vibe you spoke to
9:05
vice because I know you guys even
9:07
while you was locked up doing music
9:09
together. And you guys would like that
9:11
and she always would shout you out.
9:13
Ropping shot when I first started on
9:15
the Breakfast Club, when I first started
9:17
here, that song was in such heavy
9:19
rotation. Yeah, that was a huge
9:21
song. You actually said it. When
9:23
you were talking about me years
9:25
ago, when you were doing the
9:27
breakfast club, I was watching it
9:29
from prison. And you were saying
9:32
the same thing, like, yo, when the
9:34
ramping shop came out. That was
9:36
my song. Yeah, that was, yeah,
9:38
fire. I remember that specific, yeah.
9:40
And I'd be going back in
9:42
the very beginning of it. I
9:44
was like, oh, you probably can't
9:46
say that. And I used to,
9:48
I was like, yes, it's a
9:51
real place. I don't call it
9:53
like a motel or something. Yeah.
9:55
So we go on that around
9:57
me. Yeah. Round with me. Yeah.
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Based on the February 2024
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gotta talk about everything else
13:27
going on too, like this
13:29
wedding. Definitely. Okay, because
13:31
it's been pushed back. Yeah, because
13:34
it should have been February
13:36
31st. Stop it. Exactly Just because I'm
13:38
busy. I'm all over the place, but she's
13:40
here with me Okay, she's in in the
13:43
hotel right now. I don't leave her. She's
13:45
my good luck child That's great. Even the
13:47
whole story of how y'all got together a
13:49
lot of things that happen in your life
13:51
is just like so I think you need it's
13:53
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13:55
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think people are protective over you So at
14:00
first people will be apprehensive about
14:02
somebody because they didn't know her. Yeah,
14:04
yeah, they went in on her. Yeah, they did.
14:06
She was a Fed. She was CIA. She was
14:08
a fucking man. Oh my gosh. Yeah, that's, that
14:11
was the last one. Like, it's, she was a
14:13
man. Like, it's crazy. The wedding is wing.
14:15
No, we haven't, because she has a big
14:17
family. I have a big family. I have
14:19
a big family. So we have a
14:21
big family. So we have to plan. We
14:23
have to plan. We wanted to plan. We
14:25
wanted to do it. We wanted to do
14:27
it. We didn't know that I was going to
14:29
get the visa so quickly and things were going
14:31
to escalate like that because I'm all over the
14:33
place now. But that, but I really heard her.
14:35
Yeah, so, July 26th. That's what I got to
14:37
get into that. He was like, I got to
14:40
talk to Vives because Maino's getting married. He don't
14:42
have a bride. But he said a date already.
14:44
But he don't know to who. So I'm just
14:46
putting it out. He's looking for someone.
14:48
I'm getting the ring. I'm getting the
14:50
ring. I'm getting everything. I'm just setting
14:52
it up. Manifesting. The falls. The, the,
14:54
the, the, the, the when to set.
14:56
Oh, that's crazy. Is that the cake?
14:58
No, this, well, I want to
15:00
get a couple of these. Oh,
15:03
my gosh. But I just got
15:05
to find a bride though. That's
15:07
deep. I like that. Yeah. I
15:10
don't believe it. You don't believe
15:12
it? No. He just wants, yeah.
15:14
No, you should be. You got
15:17
to put it out there because
15:19
for years I've been saying I
15:21
want to settle down. Yeah. I
15:24
got, but I got to take
15:26
steps to do it. Come on. Focus,
15:28
man. Yeah. Now I want to ask
15:30
you this, because fever is your biggest
15:32
song, but romping shop to me is,
15:35
if you had to say what's bigger,
15:37
fever or romping shop, what would you
15:39
say in that argument as a
15:41
crossover song? I'll say, it depends. Because
15:44
remember, certain places you've gone
15:46
in the world, Clark's is my
15:48
biggest. Oh, Clark's. Pop kind.
15:50
Certain places you go with summer
15:52
time. Right, summertime is my joint. When
15:54
I go running in the park, that's
15:57
my little running song when the
15:59
weather's breaking. They had their own
16:01
version of this movie. And only
16:03
the Africa, a million bucks with
16:05
Swiss was my biggest song in
16:07
Nigeria. Oh wow, okay. And if
16:10
you go to South Africa, it's
16:12
probably something else. Right. Right.
16:14
That's how it goes, but
16:16
yeah. But those are the
16:18
top contenders, like you said,
16:20
the rumpinshop, the summertime, the fever,
16:22
the clerks. Yeah. But so I
16:24
wouldn't choose one, because it
16:26
depends. Did Clark do a deal with you
16:29
for that song back then? Or they wasn't... I
16:31
mean, remember when we did that song, we
16:33
wasn't looking for a deal. We were just
16:35
singing about how we live. Right. But then
16:37
it became... Exactly. Then it became big and
16:40
I went to prison so I didn't get
16:42
to capitalize. Okay. But to some extent, popcorn
16:44
did. So when I came out. They
16:46
haven't spoken to me yet, so I just
16:49
go Louis all the way. No, you know,
16:51
when I used to work for routine, they
16:53
were real big on the clocks too. Yeah,
16:55
I know. And they ended up doing
16:57
a deal. Yeah, they love the
16:59
Wallabies, especially. Yeah, they love Wallabies,
17:02
man. Shout out of these. The
17:04
Fox is a classic culture. in
17:06
Jamaica, like, Jamaican culture,
17:08
like fashion. You know, I
17:10
think about even, not even just
17:13
wallabies, but those other clocks. Yeah,
17:15
the desert. That's the most popular
17:17
clocks in Jamaica. Yeah, I just
17:20
thought about that. I think about,
17:22
like, you know, in Flatbush and
17:25
Crown Heights, back in the days,
17:27
everybody had clocks on it. Yeah,
17:29
man. That's too loud already, man.
17:32
Wow. That's too easy. But
17:35
coming
17:38
home, the
17:41
first stop
17:45
was
17:47
of
17:49
course,
17:51
vagina.
17:53
Okay, yeah,
17:56
vagina.
18:00
That's
18:03
great
18:06
though to
18:10
see
18:13
because
18:15
you know
18:19
what you
18:22
might have
18:27
been
18:29
But it's a different type of like
18:31
when you get to have conversations
18:33
before you get to see each other and
18:35
really like that to me. Yes. So me and
18:37
her is like real friends. Right. Right.
18:40
Right. Right. Before anything else we were
18:42
friends. Like I said we spoke for
18:44
four years before I was like come
18:46
visit me. Right. Then she came to visit
18:48
liked everything. She went back and then
18:50
I was like, you know what? I'm coming
18:52
out. Come to Jamaica. Come live. And
18:55
I just flew her. The wedding in Jamaica too,
18:57
right? It'll be in Jamaica. No, we wanted to
18:59
do it in England, but she has a big family.
19:01
A lot of them are in Turkey. I have a
19:03
big family in Jamaica. So it's just a time. And
19:05
like I said, we didn't know I was going
19:07
to get the visa so quick. and I'm
19:09
all over the place. I mean, they didn't
19:12
play with you. Exactly. So, they just gave
19:14
it to you off the road. Yeah, very
19:16
easy, man. So, because like I said, once
19:18
I came out, I came out different. I
19:20
came out positive. I came out preaching love
19:22
for goodness. Come on, determination. My story is
19:24
an amazing one. It is. That's a
19:26
movie right there. Exactly. So there was
19:29
like, man, go fulfill your destiny or
19:31
destiny or whatever. And I appreciate that.
19:33
And I'm not doing anything to mess
19:35
that. So yeah, we are, but definitely
19:37
this year won't pass as long as
19:39
I have breath. We're getting married this
19:41
year. Okay. And like I said, she's
19:43
here. Yeah. You know what I mean?
19:45
So I don't leave her out. Now I know
19:47
you always talk about Ninja Man as
19:49
one of your first inspirations. And I
19:51
see he has an appeal. Yeah. As
19:53
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