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Remember when three thousand people killed in

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October of two? Much now Thirty thousand.

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It doesn't matter Now Hundred thousand And

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it doesn't matter. Three hundred thousand doesn't

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matter. We've been lectured by the West

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for so long about like the values

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and. Of Humanity

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and the Kurdish of Human Rights and then

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we just see that doesn't apply to us.

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So kind of like you feel that may

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be. our people are very cheap from the

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don't match. Hello

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and welcome to ways to change

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the world! I'm Krishnagiri Murphy and

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this is the podcast in which

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we talked to extraordinary people about

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the big ideas in their lives

0:37

and the events that have helped

0:39

shape from My guess. This week

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is a standup comedian from Egypt

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originally but he's now American or

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Egyptian American and he was originally

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a doctor but during the Arab

0:49

Spring he transitioned. If us the

0:51

right word I'm became. A

0:54

sort of a television. Satirist

0:57

in Egypt until his

1:00

show was. No.

1:02

Longer acceptable to the new Egyptian authorities and he

1:04

had to leave the country in a hurry. Bassem

1:06

youssef thank you very much stuff coming in. What

1:08

an introduction to hear what I mean. Look either

1:10

you you spend a lot of your life trying

1:12

to change the world, the world and of moyes

1:14

know I I spend most of the time trying

1:17

to get people off my back like you know

1:19

my peers want to me to go to medicine

1:21

so and to medicine to get them off my

1:23

back. In a way I get into comedy people

1:25

want me to do something so I do them

1:27

so I get. A

1:30

action as a loser.

1:32

Is gonna want necessity for you. Never really

1:34

wants to be a doctor. Find that hard

1:36

to believe. Can you go far now? Yeah

1:38

I know, but I hated every minute of

1:40

it. I did it because there was no

1:42

other choice in my much because in in

1:44

Egypt. You. Have like the traditional way

1:46

the daily show bath. it's very I don't

1:49

have. I didn't have the courage to tell

1:51

my parents I want to see my passion

1:53

because honestly I didn't know what was my

1:55

passion. I didn't know. are you out

1:57

there was not? There's not some the at him. The

2:00

patient about that. I would take a risk for

2:02

it. So I am eighteen years old of my

2:04

class, had the good grief for the medical school

2:06

and there was a what that what do you

2:08

want to do a set of eyes. He didn't

2:10

have any kind of passion to anything cool. did

2:13

your parents to. My. My father

2:15

was a judge my mom was approve a university

2:17

professor but of course in Egypt is either an

2:19

engineer or as opt for I sold my fault

2:21

my my my older brother became an engineer so

2:24

I had to. Be

2:26

I out I have to kind of compete.

2:28

that will I for the social was Ike

2:30

and the and become a dark skin I'm

2:32

in. I'm also sale doctrine that I got

2:34

a place of medical school my when Since

2:36

journalism is that I was thinking what what

2:39

a disappointment all at once we are welcome

2:41

to America Ointments. That

2:43

that? that? that? that? At the

2:45

end up talking about these kinds of

2:47

things I mean you have become very

2:49

famous. Here partly because

2:52

because of a couple of in

2:54

see you've done recently about Israel

2:56

Gaza it of one with Piers

2:58

Morgan saw the got millions and

3:00

millions of views. About

3:04

his feel about that role now. Of

3:07

Sitters year the That the voiceover.

3:10

A dispossessed well. As I said before one

3:12

of my interviews I've seen this movie before

3:14

I was it's because in Egypt I you

3:17

know I I When I switch from medicine

3:19

I became I had my own television show

3:21

a day the shows were successful and suddenly

3:23

I was said. I was told the same

3:26

things through the voice of the people are

3:28

was yeah looseness Other guys I'm comedian three

3:30

with John Stewart armor and and he's from

3:32

Pinewood. People get so frustrated. Was with a

3:34

certain issue with Susan Topic and they find

3:37

someone. That. They can resonate with the put

3:39

all of their. Hopes and

3:41

dreams and all of their expectations on that

3:43

prison and I didn't have that a your

3:45

human being and you you you you have

3:48

limits And I have limits. At a certain

3:50

point like I did in Egypt, I couldn't

3:52

continue anymore. So I kind of bailed out

3:54

because it was not safe. It was too

3:56

much for me. A hero, I found myself

3:58

in a position. Where. I

4:00

am defending a cause that I've never been part of.

4:03

We. Know, agnostic, I'm not. I'm not up

4:05

at a senior. you know I'm get that

4:07

married to her as someone who's half but

4:09

a senior and even she's not even actual

4:12

ensnared. Main concerns about the kids basically. but

4:14

I found myself being into that position or

4:16

your your voice as family in Gaza. Others

4:18

to earth. Ah yeah, discipline of us I'm

4:21

are you in touch from and you know

4:23

where you're going? Was really trying to get

4:25

out there there in the process of trying

4:27

to get out for alive. And.

4:30

Is a sides they had like but

4:33

what? Six or seven families, uncles and

4:35

cousins and sauce and they all know

4:37

the old lost their homes, still live

4:39

under the old, now cramped in one

4:41

apartments in one building. With. Sharing

4:43

it with twenty five other families in that

4:45

building and deputy could be bomb Tomorrow said

4:47

you feel able to. Makes.

4:50

Comedy out of the situation. My show that

4:52

I too would now does not have anything

4:54

to do with their current events. I.

4:57

Try to avoid explain when I had this

4:59

kind of optical same and them I'm booking

5:01

my shows people come and expect that I

5:03

was talk about what's happening yesterday or the

5:05

day before as and know that so smart

5:07

that out works and I I find it

5:09

very hard to i should make fun of

5:11

or meet somebody out of it's. To. Cancers

5:13

yeah be like if it happens on every

5:15

now and like when i go on a

5:18

certain interviews ai it's useless the absurdity of

5:20

it's yeah you know like i was really

5:22

only rules the got a sorry guys whose

5:25

ah we didn't lead to that has gone

5:27

he doesn't series it's you like what happened

5:29

to that would the with a sense of

5:31

either way i look since kitchen to wilson

5:34

to fit sources of kitchen yet because seven

5:36

people said we're sorry guys having walk or

5:38

is terrible and then the signal is that

5:41

it's com os and if they on ah.

5:43

It was us and that I worry

5:46

that war is bad guys and say

5:48

and it was such and then they

5:50

would even a house there for you

5:52

for twitter account say this is the

5:54

distance between Hamas and Israel because Israel

5:57

acknowledges his mistakes and apologizes will have

5:59

who. Would love know beautiful and

6:01

then they even one of the to select

6:03

look what hummus me this do such. I

6:05

mean you don't even need to actually write

6:07

any jokes about. This is just like their

6:09

atrocities Ehrlich's you know like when Donald Trump

6:11

was present than using lip one horrible thing

6:13

after the other you discounts and it does

6:15

become funny anymore. That's exactly what's happening did

6:17

not mean that's the point is of the

6:19

what you know the world in so many

6:21

ways as be on satire on yet Sabbath

6:23

said that certain pointed the it's it's it's

6:25

it's still to be fun yet you are

6:27

able to sort of makes me eat your

6:29

able. To make fun of people Who says i

6:31

mean you know you made fun of Piers Morgan?

6:34

Imagines: v Make fun of Ben Shapiro you you'll

6:36

make fun of Israel right now. People.

6:38

Are now to react to that to they treated

6:40

you Don't know whether to laugh cause you to

6:42

know whether you weather sucks. I was very settle

6:44

laugh because it's been several being killed was is

6:46

a set. Space. Add the fact

6:49

that like you tell that kiwi, you

6:51

should applaud Israel for a warning civilians

6:53

before bombing them. Wow. Dude.

6:56

How. Amazing. How lovely is

6:58

yes it's it's it's is as he said i

7:01

don't know is that it's it's funny and said

7:03

in the same blamed on tv in i was

7:05

like the fact that the lights and we the

7:07

fact that like than is a said like I

7:09

am as as a like a a a base

7:12

military's under they also do you have any proof

7:14

he's a Cg I did you looked at it

7:16

that's what we have. And. You have

7:18

to believe it. But if you don't believe it's rude and

7:20

to submit. Your

7:24

anti semite. Tude. You get

7:26

accused to that of course of and some so I am.

7:29

I'm an anti semitic if is funny because any

7:31

to those that use with it being a secret

7:33

you. Animal Said Agents And

7:35

though I'm me, I come to make it to

7:37

be accused of being a decently a summit. Oh

7:40

how you deal with that. Would. You say

7:42

like he loves it like this?

7:44

Yeah I'm so afraid. Now at

7:46

get it doesn't mean anything. This.

7:48

Accusation: Went is emitted It It's it's.

7:50

it's A. It's an empty acquisition. It

7:52

doesn't mean anything, but it's It's one

7:54

of the worst. Accusation Know Why? Why?

7:57

Why? Why you for being being used

7:59

to be arrested. The around to see more

8:01

understand that I'm a semi myself, right? Yeah,

8:03

yeah so it doesn't make any sense Your

8:05

sense Of course I'm in their money on

8:07

or say like the fact that you say

8:09

anybody's emphysema doesn't mean anything because the cool

8:12

other Jewish people at the semites, right hours

8:14

and fittings you sort of be changed their

8:16

tier. oh you're surfing Jews reds. It doesn't

8:18

matter, it doesn't make sense that will that?

8:20

Yes, reducing the power of thus accusation is

8:22

ebbing away. People.

8:25

In there anymore for people it's it's

8:27

be People are making fun of this

8:29

accusations because basically is a same will

8:31

do whatever we want and because we

8:34

are see lights and if you speak

8:36

about anything Oct seven, October seventh and

8:38

you're anti semite it's just you See

8:40

if the that of it's become so

8:43

tired and so exhausting and as just

8:45

devoid of of anything with meaning what

8:47

do you think about the others But

8:49

the flip side of that was when

8:52

people accused Israel of a holocaust or

8:54

a genocide. Or in are they turn

8:56

those words back on Israel and

8:58

say, "We'll look at what you're

9:00

doing when oversee the numbers do

9:02

not compare" You

9:05

know and when you talk about

9:07

genocide of inner are you think

9:09

about Rwanda or Cambodia or the

9:12

Summer War or millions of people

9:14

dying Deducing that's an appropriate accusations

9:16

Love Sub zero miles with i'm

9:18

familiar but as soon as are

9:20

condemned as I mean as a

9:22

so course yes what happens if

9:24

added just it's not genocided Just

9:27

like like weakening don't really have

9:29

a fundamental Indiana Hell interrogation that

9:31

waterboarding it's not torture is enhanced

9:33

interrogation. Still much getting. Our that

9:35

this is. That's why I don't even they

9:37

engage about the lives because the it's just

9:40

words. You. Of genocide Not genocide.

9:42

Genocide Genesis and as me and you

9:44

wasting time. Deciding. Of genocide.

9:46

We're not already sent. People were shot

9:48

as we speak. Fear. Is. Is

9:50

that what is the proportionate response was or

9:52

health and is or do is is a

9:55

little as as we are discussing this book.

9:57

Arguments. right? Fifteen.

9:59

People are killed. Blake. Who

10:01

does it is? We have the right to exist

10:03

And what should a joke as we're discussing these

10:05

books? Fifty. People who are

10:07

at it doesn't matter. All of these

10:09

conversation about the media is just like

10:12

sickening because he just gave Israel more

10:14

time to do whatever they do and

10:16

daily visits. Wishes increase killing so whatever

10:19

definitions were discussing, defending whatever self defense

10:21

more theorists, it doesn't matter. It

10:23

doesn't matter, the whole system seems to be

10:25

designed for his just doing whatever they want

10:28

and on their spare time the come in

10:30

and the piss you off with these discussions.

10:32

So. What? What? What did you? What

10:35

have you worked out and about the

10:37

power of a Tv show like the

10:39

one you had in Egypt or like

10:41

the Daily Show in America? Were you

10:43

surprised? Power you make fun of? Politicians

10:45

are men may take power. Ah, I

10:47

may win anyway. You know I mean

10:49

the Daily Show in America was the

10:52

city's vaunted saying that people think is

10:54

absolutely amazing chance to his back on

10:56

it. It's very funny but it's not

10:58

going to stop. Anything

11:00

happening is as a her. Yeah.

11:04

It's an illusion for a feast. If we don't

11:06

respect is an illusion, we're just explain much of

11:08

an illusion. All of all of this is illusion.

11:11

We're wasting our that people don't like talking, lots

11:13

of thinking that we can actually make a change.

11:15

While that would doesn't even change. I.

11:17

Mean, it's just it's it's it's right

11:19

there. How many you and resolutions homeland

11:21

Security cause he doesn't matter? It doesn't

11:23

matter. Really? We can talk and

11:25

we shout and we didn't cry and we can jump

11:28

and was pump money into the day. The people about

11:30

do whatever they wanted you feel that you're so was

11:32

pointless. Will was not was time as as as as

11:34

we entered at Hope but at the system points says.

11:37

He doesn't matter when you when you started out

11:39

doing that when you first off I joined the

11:41

com is you Cindy we're going to be doing

11:43

He's a think using I like making fun of

11:45

people about it's a beautiful things and I think

11:48

it is. It is the major. Of

11:50

a democratic such as a citizen them when

11:53

I could do it, you become desensitized and

11:55

you lose hope like you know and then.

11:58

A You come to United. If anything the

12:00

doors will because you can speak about anything

12:02

you want but viewed. but then you speak

12:05

about stuff and it doesn't matter. You whole

12:07

top for whoever in office and he doesn't

12:09

matter because whoever you vote for doesn't really

12:11

follow your direction or doesn't work for your

12:13

special interest was for the species of the

12:15

people who given money for the next election

12:17

cycle. Are you gonna vote for Miss Guys

12:19

will think so? I don't think so. I

12:21

mean this franchise from the whole democratic process

12:23

I'm I'm very sad to say this because

12:25

Lakes what what, what is or isn't of

12:27

what's what's the point of like giving my

12:29

vote. For someone who had end of the

12:32

day would work for special groups that would

12:34

would that would pay him much more than

12:36

I would ever pay him and then that

12:38

would go on and do. But Edmunds nuclear

12:41

legislation that doesn't work for my for my

12:43

own interest in just it doesn't make. Any

12:45

sense you herself. But if you if you

12:47

are faced with a choice between Joe Biden

12:49

and Donald Trump. Satellite.

12:51

I have no doubt you'll for that say I'm

12:53

not going to take the choice. I'm not pleased

12:56

with any choices that's not an advantage. The choice

12:58

the same put isn't I don't have to take

13:00

any. What does that leave your power to complain

13:02

than final if you haven't I don't know. Exercise

13:04

that show is. It is all new to me.

13:07

Some. Discovering that a living in the

13:09

new words Cg like it. Or

13:11

love it. What? What you love of America I

13:13

bet is a great place to live. It's agree

13:15

that minimum of course I'm I'm I'm vey disenfranchised

13:18

by it's policies. Would you know it's a great

13:20

be People are wonderful disagreed lived at the place

13:22

to live as a good place to raise your

13:24

kids. I'm not gonna lie, I mean I'm I'm

13:26

not complaining about America as the place but as

13:29

many Americans the don't like their policies of the

13:31

countries as many British people who don't like the

13:33

policies of the of its ab ab a vague

13:35

you know the British government. it is fine to

13:38

be just franchise but the policies will You gotta.

13:40

Do feel freezer in a way that you didn't

13:42

play as he free to say whatever they want.

13:45

Which is great. I. Mean

13:47

again, but. What I'm saying is

13:49

that I'm just in in the in the end

13:51

of a some Other than that I'm discussing the

13:53

what does it mean to be freed of is

13:55

just like to be you voicing your opinion or

13:57

that's actually are opening have an impact of countries.

14:00

These. Or maybe they're just like. Maybe

14:02

we're not. We don't matter, maybe

14:04

the not our numbers no matter

14:06

And. I. Don't. Answer:

14:10

Discovering this whole new world my friend

14:12

who you're sounding very well, sort of

14:14

almost near listeners the since the so

14:17

cynical beyond wouldn't use well I mean

14:19

shit out. Of sorts,

14:21

a lot of people who who have reason to

14:23

feel that way I suppose. But I mean I'm

14:25

actually surprised that even hair optimistic. But where does

14:27

the optimists come from? Why?

14:30

Are you optimistic? Why am I also miss? I

14:32

don't know that I am optimistic, are you and

14:34

thought, but I spent all my time talking to

14:36

people who think they can change the world fallen

14:38

on Who who wants to change is only back

14:40

into that. Okay Adam Adam, make it a better

14:43

place as a separate made me If I'm. At

14:46

at at is quite interesting so someone is Marty St Louis

14:48

for this is this is of someone's doing comedy. Movies

14:52

refresh, sold to somebody who says we

14:54

know what you can't bear I'm but

14:57

I wonder whether that's what you really

14:59

believe with us. As phase you, going

15:01

through all our maybe or maybe smuggler

15:03

prices are just or fifty. So I'm

15:05

I'm I'm getting used to the this

15:07

old sense of do because you sound

15:09

like somebody must have been more optimistic.

15:12

Early on in life documents I desire your

15:14

sitters victim What I hear when we were

15:16

optimistic and. We

15:19

have. We: Are you optimistic about the

15:21

Arab Spring you're gonna happen to detect

15:23

was actually going some? Yes, we did.

15:25

Yes we'll have other was did. What?

15:28

Did he think was gonna happen? Ah

15:30

you know the dream of democracy and

15:32

nino of having a good democratic secular

15:34

country and on the hospital bar would

15:36

go and the you would elect some

15:38

lead of a you are once had

15:40

a as yes yes we are so

15:42

nave. Ssssss Because

15:45

when you think that's what happened so

15:47

fine, you know you. You have this

15:49

Arab Spring. Mubarak goes. More.

15:51

See comes in the Muslim Brotherhood guy. What

15:56

Did She sings? Well. Yeah well as I

15:58

was fine when the when he's the president. It

16:00

didn't mind him being a black president

16:02

and I but the thing is you

16:04

a eight it very complicated for the

16:06

people don't let didn't live in Egypt

16:08

but the most of other the did

16:10

sunday that many of them muse like

16:12

democracy as a way to get into

16:14

power but then it's it's it's it's

16:17

kind of like considered sabotaging all of

16:19

that tools of democracies will be producing

16:21

about and the I I I. I

16:23

don't think that the any aid for

16:25

the that the he stayed either was

16:27

like. Certain of.

16:31

worrying signs. I

16:33

don't think the to she should have been removed.

16:36

I celebrated in been removed because it was some

16:38

ginger on my own life from them because us

16:40

on the them some other that was at risk

16:42

I was interrogated i was had my show being

16:44

threatened and then under the mr as even that

16:46

horse was stuff happened how do we need to

16:49

remind people that I was by some of us

16:51

to yes after Mohamad more see who and yet

16:53

democratically elected as president's the aisles to unite the

16:55

country and fail to get international sports get I

16:57

mean I am and I have to say that

17:00

at the beginner's luck I was happy because use

17:02

would because again it when you're. Into then

17:04

there's personal danger as you sort of

17:06

the big the biggest like yes and

17:08

as I know that strong what's happening

17:11

as accurate were in swapping of of

17:13

religious fascism where the military's ashes and

17:15

then eventually I was I was kicked

17:17

up. must have because your comedy becomes

17:20

dangerous I don't because I continued doing

17:22

the same with the new regime and

17:24

the didn't like it. Then I lost

17:27

my each show. Cancel the couple

17:29

of times and I was good at add to the thirty

17:31

fifth your life. I guess I am. Always.

17:33

It for did you see you can read locked up. Look

17:36

both ways. I

17:38

once was a whole lot of emotions. men.

17:41

Result of trauma. Up

17:44

with a stay at Sf, I don't want

17:46

to dig the tumor out. There is no

17:48

no, I'm splitting. Don't give me a sense

17:50

of what you were going through. eleventh of

17:53

November. two thousand and fourteen the I lost

17:55

that arbitration case that as really to the

17:57

cancellation of my show and in arbitration there's.

18:00

No jail time that's the truth but they

18:02

are more said like dude sex, forget of

18:04

applause and and which is to the have

18:06

to leave right now because this is at.

18:09

But. This is what's gonna happen. They gonna go come

18:11

to you. they can to prevent you from leaving they

18:13

take your passport the up with injured so I left

18:15

and I left Egypt any fourteen. never went back. And

18:19

I had to start all over again. In a

18:21

new country you are new language doing send a

18:23

comedy in my second language this nut or that

18:25

I'm doing right now. And

18:28

it was a kind of us are

18:30

very interesting journey going through all of

18:32

that them the good just going to

18:35

them. Know that disappointments

18:37

going to that said bags and trying

18:39

to find yourself from the beginning and

18:41

trying to. Figure

18:43

out who you are in this world. A

18:46

year ago so my son of comedy became

18:48

better. And of

18:50

selling more tickets and actually putting putting

18:52

more people and seats and then they're

18:54

the. The interviews with Be More happened

18:56

and I exploded and that when people

18:59

came I will say that the time

19:01

was right because if that happened two

19:03

years ago I wasn't ready. So. When

19:05

you say is your story. Where.

19:07

Does it begin when it begins from Egypt?

19:09

When I was a doctor had to leave

19:11

that doing this to show and then I

19:14

took out. Like being interrogated. The scene or

19:16

interrogation is very funny. It wasn't bad

19:18

at them but it's it is now as because

19:20

I was in target for my jokes and I'm

19:22

going to America finding myself under like when from

19:25

becoming president about the interrogation don't move All I

19:27

have learned that the there you can have too

19:29

much on watches. I. I'm

19:32

I'm I'm going around my show me a success

19:34

and I'm gonna give spoilers of what what does

19:36

American citizenship means? You know it means that they

19:38

don't have to apply for their these. Little

19:42

more as you know for it's it's it's

19:44

full. Of course, it's practically the fact that

19:46

you can get. Like years. And like Forty years.

19:49

And my life. Forty. Five years

19:51

of my less effect that I

19:53

hadn't as you should bedford other

19:55

had to wonder, Had yet to

19:57

plan any travel in months and

19:59

even need. You're in a mess he

20:01

i played the bitching and v they the

20:03

Uk v said the american v said abkazian

20:05

visa nebulous whatever it is crazy there are

20:08

sisters and like as an I think like

20:10

you are allowed to go without a visa

20:12

to only nineteen or twenty countries with and

20:14

then suddenly the whole would open for you.

20:17

I can just like wake up gets into

20:19

a cog outta there for go to any

20:21

country want. Except. If you want smith. Atom.

20:24

Bomb Agree. Sure I want to go there, but

20:26

it's it. Is it? A head at the understand

20:29

the kind of freedom contrary bucks for hours from

20:31

just from it? Because. I

20:34

covered both. The initials

20:36

spring a member and of more seats

20:38

are remember thinking i don't know what

20:40

it is that people are addicted to

20:42

Here is it is it revolution that

20:44

they like. Is it is

20:47

the sort of the promise of something

20:49

being better because it always seems to

20:51

me the whatever people wanted was undeliverable

20:53

universal of the hope or something that

20:56

was brilliant house Mubarak the hope or

20:58

something that was brilliant optimal seats people

21:00

were was going to be disappointed for

21:03

the procedures problems would basically home economic

21:05

and political. What's funny but of B

21:07

M in in Europe which is as

21:10

a very stable democracy for fifty years.

21:12

That. People did going on to the must be some

21:15

look at France. They have a strike every two days.

21:17

Yeah. So as to why are you feeling as

21:19

on as as if we are the only one

21:21

left to just accept things as we ought? Don't

21:23

we want? don't we just have to us by

21:25

for something better or like the French people have

21:27

everything and then this and go on strikes and

21:29

be paralyzed. The who can see. Why? Don't

21:32

you ask them The same question was details as

21:34

to the Us is a slightly different thing that happened.

21:36

isn't that damage they were revolutions they were overthrow stare

21:38

that people that know at the a way to sort

21:40

of they were not a winner of America for us

21:43

to citizen I know but the over selected by

21:45

the army on the Beatles six by Matt determined

21:47

by the army of the people that them in the

21:49

people who had the power to remove the authorities not

21:51

the people whom have used the only set symbol

21:53

type was a million people as he doesn't matter

21:55

just look at their know that a done me does

21:57

move not gonna be cool. And.

22:00

The army of always retain power. And.

22:03

Still do today. course to letting fifty Two It's

22:05

always been there are some what that means of

22:07

people's ability to change things in their own countries.

22:09

I don't know he to ask the western countries

22:11

that. Support these and military regimes

22:14

all around the world. And then they complain

22:16

about why don't we have democracies in these

22:18

parts of North Side is that though isn't

22:20

it the most incredible question as the coin

22:22

to to have democracy like as like I

22:24

don't know because you keep selling arms to

22:26

these people's yeah this one season came to

22:28

Britain to be trains and. Although

22:31

these. You. Know

22:33

I don't. Regimes are you most? I'm in my

22:36

mind I didn't. Know

22:38

I'm who am I mean it's Egyptian military.

22:40

Generals are often hop off been together, history

22:42

been trained it near completion of the to

22:44

establish months. So you're right. You know these

22:46

things are props up by the international order

22:48

in some just wanna get to sort of.

22:50

You know the sort of the cynicism that

22:52

you have about people's ability to change the

22:54

world Magnetism Saw a woman who talk about

22:57

your people are right to sort of complain

22:59

and prefer right to wombats Emmy they could

23:01

simply but I overheard will say we're not

23:03

be with the saying and aiming at Jessica

23:05

This they can complain but like at it

23:07

as if. He has two different things.

23:09

They have the right to complain. Your question is,

23:11

would that change the woods? Yeah And I say,

23:13

I don't think so. But in the

23:15

same time I go to limit to complete. It's.

23:18

Not Cd mutually exclusive. Rate is yeah, it's

23:20

league and didn't have both. I

23:22

don't up on almost every for example I go the

23:25

that I complain about what is it that stuff. That

23:27

she's anything snow. Do I keep

23:29

doing it? Yes, Why? Because I have nothing else to

23:31

do. What?

23:37

what do you think should happen Now

23:39

on That's where on on the Israel

23:41

questions you think things are changing.

23:43

She thinks international townhouses genius or

23:45

while shooting international opinion has changed between

23:48

of as a dozen medicines it doesn't

23:50

matter. It doesn't matter the

23:52

second question, but in the one that that's

23:54

exactly does he teach may be does it

23:57

matter to know. Because. It was

23:59

his legs was. People don't like is

24:01

now. do they care? Would

24:03

have a slow down the killing know

24:06

have these stop killing people know and

24:08

they stopped get heavy somebody thing every

24:10

single international law article know does it

24:12

matter? Know will change and he know.

24:16

The gonna send with one girl language which

24:18

is power and force and there's no pressure

24:20

or power from them. Sooner Disease which is

24:23

their own sponsor and sometimes I wonder who

24:25

leads the other So in Southern have. Club

24:28

not, I understand what you said.

24:30

You feel disenfranchised from you don't

24:32

want to choose between Bodmin. Trump's

24:34

producing America will be difference depending

24:36

on who wins the election. I

24:38

am bias against Trump. I think

24:40

he can make changes that affect

24:42

even feasible expression and democracy. But

24:44

that's my biased. Me by misinformed maybe

24:47

gonna be better? Ah I had certs advice

24:49

about by the and I thought that you

24:51

would be a better president. He's not.

24:53

So I was wrong about that, specially in

24:55

what's happening because. I don't

24:58

know I am. I honestly

25:00

I honestly like this conflict

25:02

has been very. Emotionally

25:05

demanding that I can't even imagine what

25:07

America would be other either of them

25:09

to conflicts in Ghazi Me I. Can

25:12

you tell me a little bit about that? I

25:14

mean were in what way? Is it Emotionally demanding

25:17

for you beyond the obvious and me any. The

25:19

thing is they can member when see thousand people

25:21

killed in October of two much. Thousand.

25:23

Thirty thousand. It doesn't matter now. Hundred

25:26

thousand? It doesn't matter. Three hundred thousand doesn't

25:28

matter. We've been lectured by the West for

25:30

so long about like the values. Of

25:33

Humanity and the Fish of Human Rights. And then

25:35

we just see that doesn't apply to us. So

25:38

kind of like you see that may be, our

25:40

people are very cheap and they don't. Match.

25:44

And. With. Doesn't matter

25:46

how many people. Killed.

25:49

Would. You mean by our people? Pacitti.

25:51

Be. I mean of them if they were Arabs rate.

25:54

Because it's if is hop at at at

25:56

the because we all linked together. Arab muslims,

25:59

Middle eastern, whatever. You know and I wonder like

26:01

what will happen of my daughter, what we're l a

26:03

penal grows up and. And. Put the

26:05

like a fallacy to give me a goes

26:07

into machine when she's twenty years old. Would

26:09

you be arrested for being a terrorist? I

26:11

don't know this whole thing like stacking the

26:13

whole world opinion against us and x of

26:15

the beacon the whole world exception that we

26:17

just die in them in a huge the

26:19

about numbers idol I I didn't hear what

26:21

any other population that last. Us.

26:25

To. Percent of it's population in this and

26:27

six months. And. In here with them.

26:30

And. That it's happening rectified. Were out in the

26:32

when he's can't nobody cares. We

26:35

just talking about. When you say nobody cares

26:37

yeah what would you have to do to show

26:39

the you can meet have the and one not

26:42

any any other thousand. People. In Power.

26:44

Your. Insights Yep this of is at best

26:46

and I'm gonna see this and then I

26:49

repeat in every single interview if that as

26:51

a or stops to they know what's the

26:53

wishing that could happen. People congratulate and priests

26:55

is for stopping the word now. Instead

26:58

of holding it comes to for the rest of the stuff

27:00

for the past six months. His. Escape Or. They

27:03

make even give the novel price peaceful oppressed

27:05

on it and yet. For. Just

27:07

stopping. Thirty thousand people. If. The worst

27:10

option? The. People. Of priests

27:12

Israel for since could say. Well

27:14

I mean it's it's quite common of

27:17

the end of was for war leaders

27:19

to them be awarded peace prizes absolutely

27:21

which is always extraordinary body think should

27:23

happen is it should have be held

27:25

accountable and taken to the criminal court.

27:28

And. They should pay reparation and this you

27:30

go in and and repair what they did

27:32

because whatever have in October seven does not

27:35

justify all of them. So what what When

27:37

you say that's are either you feel I'm.

27:40

Your your people who she like Palestinians

27:43

are don't know how much they're human

27:45

beings semantic but they don't count. He

27:47

had the same way not look at.

27:51

How many? how many Palestinians kids were killed

27:53

since October? Some he of in those bank

27:55

eighty one Yeah. If

27:57

it you want israeli kids were kids have to or seven.

28:00

What will lower do? Fine. But. Is

28:02

this revelations You. Know. It's

28:04

of the revelation we know this all along but

28:06

when you when you when you see your mom's

28:08

a toy right now because we we know we

28:10

did it with on matters we don't we know

28:13

that our lives up doesn't. Saw

28:15

that valuable We understand that we've been up with

28:18

since a long time ago. Like.

28:20

In own eleven people from Charlie of door

28:22

kim which terrible of course everybody's use we've

28:24

charlie of them the world leaders went to

28:27

Paris eleven people. But.

28:30

Does. This thousand. Isn't used to

28:32

the two more comes up Ten thousand policies

28:34

recut you think I would will make any

28:36

kid know. I mean I. I saw the

28:38

of the argument you made around that was

28:40

about the dehumanization of Palestinians and about talking

28:42

about them as animals. Using that was even

28:45

need it. Now it's not needed

28:47

but it's it's It's a tsunami, not

28:49

ice or can exit as I think

28:51

in this is a self evidence the

28:53

people in some parts of the world's.

28:57

Are. Valued less than people in other possible

28:59

when it comes to death occurs when you're

29:01

in when you're living in the western world.

29:04

Since the coup question is. Do

29:06

do you think the Palestinians needed

29:09

to be dehumanized or with a

29:11

just worth less. And

29:13

less both because the in order to

29:15

escalate the violence you need to remind

29:17

the people how an inhuman to people

29:19

are. In. Order to continue doing

29:21

it. Because. The Israel has

29:23

been killing them on daily basis but in

29:26

in order to up the violence every now

29:28

and then. You. Need a little

29:30

bit of the a reminder of how I

29:32

inhuman those people are so he just like

29:34

a process that goes into just have. To

29:37

increase in the. The. Victims of.

29:40

See what you don't do comedy about

29:43

Conference yeah to visit our conversation Us:

29:45

I'm an outcast. An indication of you

29:47

are in your mind about this whole

29:49

thing. Saudi. Switch between

29:52

math. And my job. Is

29:55

just a job is a joke. It's my job. It's

29:57

not just the job, it is my job. It's my life.

29:59

Foods. Our go in and the people who

30:01

buy tickets to come and see making love

30:04

don't have to have to suffer whatever I

30:06

have to go to. I can have like

30:08

global problems at home with my kids with

30:10

my wife but it doesn't matter because they're

30:12

I'm a performer nobody cares what happened she

30:15

of sight of offstage and so if if

30:17

you work for a moment's an optimistic person

30:19

I met this is another and could change

30:21

the world in any way. How would you

30:23

changes. By the moment said.

30:26

The. Survey toward be question.

30:29

Arrow. At it Just and

30:31

the thing is. The

30:34

whole big talk about changing the word

30:36

doesn't do anything if you don't. Address.

30:41

The power. Who.

30:43

Has the power was the power to

30:45

she'd been are to for the power

30:47

to force people to do certain things

30:49

or stop people from doing certain things

30:52

and the people in power don't really.

30:55

Response or care about any of our

30:57

suggestion. Switch it to change the war

30:59

because at a certain point is that

31:01

of our was to change award will

31:03

affect their special interest. They would stop.

31:06

How are you going to tell your kids? Know. I

31:10

will wait until you're twenty one than them. Up

31:13

us on that look at around their childhoods. I'm

31:15

gonna ruin them as they were when they're young

31:18

people were old enough the every other they were

31:20

old enough to have their their their lives ruined.

31:24

As what do you think? I'm a monster

31:26

now. For some he

31:28

says thank you very much indeed think is in.