0:00

I had

0:02

no idea

0:05

what this

0:08

guy's name

0:11

was. So

0:13

I'm like,

0:16

hey you,

0:19

how you

0:21

doing? How's

0:24

it going,

0:27

bud? Kind

0:29

of surprising. Yeah, here too. The chicken

0:31

water is frozen up this morning. You

0:33

know, I have a little heater that's

0:35

plugged in all winter long, and about

0:38

a month ago I unplugged it because

0:40

it hadn't gotten that cold this morning

0:42

there. Had to chip ice with their

0:44

beaks to get to water. I can

0:46

work for it. Right. They're smart

0:48

enough to do that, huh? No, they're not.

0:51

I tried to give them credit, but

0:53

they don't deserve it. I had to

0:55

actually break the ice myself myself. from

0:57

being mad. Right. Yeah, we had a

0:59

bunch of storms this week and it

1:02

was just crazy rain. I don't have

1:04

a rain gauge here, but the estimate's

1:06

where we got somewhere between, I

1:08

don't know, seven and ten inches

1:10

from Wednesday to Sunday. My goodness.

1:13

And luckily where I am, neither of

1:15

our properties are flooded, but there

1:17

are some people in the county

1:19

next to us in Frankfurt, the

1:22

capital, they're very flooded. Cincinnati,

1:24

you know, north of us is flooded.

1:26

There are a lot of places

1:29

that have, that are near a

1:31

big river, like Kentucky River, something

1:33

like that. Pretty bad. Wow. Yeah,

1:35

nothing like that up here. It's

1:37

starting to look more and

1:39

more like spring every day. I mean,

1:42

the buds are out on the trees,

1:44

but I did take kind of a

1:46

road trip with my brother yesterday.

1:48

We went up north about... About

1:50

two hours north of where I

1:52

live on the west coast of

1:54

Michigan and it was snowing up

1:56

there Really yeah, yeah, so it

1:59

was still cold he has,

2:01

some of you know that he's

2:03

got a boat and he's got

2:05

a business for cruising people up

2:07

and down the coast or going

2:09

out onto Lake Michigan and watching

2:12

a sunset or stuff like that.

2:14

Well yeah, you know that because

2:16

I did that Shotsky for him.

2:18

Yeah, you were talking about the

2:20

Shotsky. Yeah, that by the way

2:23

is done and it turned out

2:25

amazing. little video kind of some

2:27

of the steps and I kind

2:29

of showed the outcome at the

2:31

end of that and I posted

2:34

that on Instagram. It's neat. I

2:36

mean I've never done anything like

2:38

that before but the epoxy worked

2:40

perfectly and I took those little

2:42

LED lights and epoxy the bottom

2:45

half onto the board and the

2:47

top half onto the bottom of

2:49

the shot glasses and then when

2:51

you twist them on and you

2:53

twist them hard enough it activates

2:56

the light so then you can

2:58

use the remote with the light

3:00

and change colors or whatever and

3:02

then afterwards if you want to

3:04

clean the glasses you can just

3:07

unscrew them again and that conserves

3:09

the battery for the... for the

3:11

light, etc. But then on the

3:13

bottom I lazed out his whole

3:15

logo so that when you tip

3:18

the ski up to drink you

3:20

can see the whole logo and

3:22

yeah it turned out pretty neat.

3:24

I was a bit nervous that

3:26

something wasn't going to line up

3:29

on the laser but no everything

3:31

went smoothly and turned out kind

3:33

of nice. But anyways he, my

3:35

brother, is looking at a new

3:37

boat. He messaged me the other

3:40

day and says hey Got

3:42

a new boat up, you know,

3:45

up north that I'd like to

3:47

look at and I'm wondering if

3:49

I can borrow your moisture meter.

3:52

I was like, oh, okay, sure.

3:54

Can I come along? Yeah, I'm

3:57

curious what this is about. He's

3:59

like, yeah, sure, yeah. So we

4:01

drove up north yesterday to go

4:04

look at this boat and my

4:06

goodness, this thing is amazing. I've

4:09

never been on a boat this

4:11

big. It was... Is he looking

4:13

at replacing his existing boat or

4:16

adding to his fleet? No, he's

4:18

going to replace it. So, because

4:20

he would have to buy more

4:23

than one slip and then, you

4:25

know, pay... for winter storage and

4:28

winter storage is no joke up

4:30

here it's it's a lot of money and

4:32

plus he there's only one of my brother

4:34

so he can only you know really pilot

4:36

one boat at a time because there's not

4:39

two of them I just didn't know if

4:41

he was trying to grow the business

4:43

that he's got or right he's not at

4:45

that point just yet maybe one day but

4:47

for now he's just looking to sell off

4:50

his current boat and kind of upgrade it

4:52

and I think the one that he has

4:54

now is now is like a 30-foot boat,

4:56

which is no joke. That's

4:58

a decent. It's a big

5:01

boat. The one that he's

5:03

looking at now is a

5:05

46-foot boat, but it is

5:07

actually with the swimming platform

5:10

off the back. It's over

5:12

50 feet long and 16

5:14

feet wide, and it's like,

5:16

it's got five different levels

5:19

on it, but it's

5:21

like a... you know like a tri-level

5:23

home when you walk in the front

5:25

door you go up three steps or

5:27

you go down three steps or whatever

5:29

so it's like a full story right

5:31

it so it's like that so when

5:34

you climb into the back of this

5:36

boat or coming off the sides you're

5:38

like at the main deck level you

5:40

go up a ladder to get to

5:42

the helm and that's where he would

5:44

be up above or you can go

5:46

down and get into like the salon

5:48

area Which is like the lounge area

5:51

and then you can go down again

5:53

to get to the dining area

5:55

in the kitchen and there's one

5:57

of the state rooms and then

5:59

on The other side, I guess,

6:01

would be the aft side, that's

6:03

the rear. There's another place where

6:06

you can go down and get

6:08

into a state room, like the

6:10

captain's quarters or whatever, the big

6:12

state room. And then in the

6:14

kitchen area, there's the set of

6:16

stairs that you go down to

6:18

get into that dining kitchen area.

6:20

You can lift those stairs up

6:23

and underneath the stairs is another

6:25

stairway that goes down into the

6:27

engine room. So it's just... Massive

6:29

and it was on a boat

6:31

like that. Oh, it is so

6:33

so cool So I'm hoping that

6:35

he wants to to pick this

6:38

boat up and and if he

6:40

does you know that'll be fun

6:42

You know, I'll see if I

6:44

can join him on the voyage

6:46

to get it back down the

6:48

coast of Michigan into his harbor.

6:50

That would be fun good time

6:53

a year for it too, right?

6:55

Just as springs coming out exactly.

6:57

Yeah, so while we were just

6:59

going up there to check it

7:01

out and see if it's something

7:03

that he would like, but then

7:05

as a potential buyer, you kind

7:07

of want to look at all

7:10

the nooks and crannies and make

7:12

sure stuff isn't broken. And one

7:14

of the major things I guess

7:16

that can dissuade a potential buyer

7:18

is if the hall of the

7:20

boat has basically water damage or

7:22

is considered a wet hall. So

7:25

I didn't know this, but they

7:27

use moisture meters to detect that.

7:29

and I guess they can detect

7:31

it through the fiberglass. So a

7:33

fiberglass hall is, I mean it's

7:35

not anything like wood, it's different,

7:37

but the moisture meter still works.

7:39

So I thought that was kind

7:42

of interesting. Now I don't know

7:44

if it's detecting moisture behind it.

7:46

So is, is it a wood

7:48

hull that's wrapped in fiberglass? You

7:50

know, I don't know. I don't

7:52

know. I don't know the specifics.

7:54

I would bet it is. There's

7:57

a lot of steel in this

7:59

boat, so I'm not certain if

8:01

it's got a wooden skeleton or

8:03

aluminum skeleton or steel. I just

8:05

don't know. But he held up

8:07

my moisture meter to the side

8:09

of it and sure enough, you

8:12

know, it pops up 10% or

8:14

6% or something like that. And

8:16

I'm like, well, that looks pretty

8:18

dry right there. This was the

8:20

Wagner meter you took down? I

8:22

actually took the Merlin one. I

8:24

just grabbed one and left. I

8:26

didn't. really think of which one.

8:28

I mean that they both work

8:30

really well. So what setting would

8:32

you have it on? You know,

8:34

what density do you use? Exactly.

8:37

I flipped through the manual. looking

8:39

to see if they had anything

8:41

other than wood species in the

8:43

manual and they didn't. So I'm

8:46

like, hmm, I guess I'll just

8:48

leave it at Walnut. I don't

8:50

know. Leave it at Walnut. Yeah,

8:52

when in doubt, leave it at

8:54

Walnut. So he was sliding this

8:57

thing around and one thing that

8:59

we noticed is like, usually below

9:01

the waterline on a boat you have,

9:03

I forget the name of the

9:05

kind of paint that you put

9:07

on there, but it's basically

9:10

a specialized paint that you

9:12

would paint on the bottom

9:14

of the boats that is

9:16

under the waterline. And whenever

9:18

he slid the meter down over

9:20

that paint, the moisture number

9:23

just skyrocketed. It just

9:25

went bananas like off the

9:27

charts. So there was something about

9:30

that paint that made it, I

9:32

don't know if it was reflective

9:34

or whatever, to the meter,

9:36

but It just didn't work on that.

9:39

But in all the other areas, you

9:41

use it to check the moisture levels

9:43

of, I don't know if it's the

9:45

framework behind the fiberglass or what, but

9:47

I thought it was interesting. The paint

9:50

line wasn't necessarily exactly matched up

9:52

with the water line, right? It's

9:54

not like he was reading all

9:56

the way through the boat and

9:58

just testing water outside. Right exactly

10:00

so And it was pretty obvious

10:03

that it was the paint that

10:05

was causing that because There was

10:07

a very definitive line and just

10:09

above it The meter would read

10:12

like 6% and then you slide

10:14

it down like a fraction of

10:16

an inch So it's covering some

10:18

of that paint and the number

10:21

jumped to like 27% or something

10:23

like that. It's like okay. It's

10:25

clearly the paint. It's not actually

10:27

moisture that's very deep into the

10:30

boat. But yeah, we walked around

10:32

there. We checked out all the

10:34

cool features. I mean, just to

10:36

give you an idea, this boat

10:39

has central vacuum. Really? That's something

10:41

that you would put in a

10:43

house. And it really is like

10:46

a condominium inside. It was something

10:48

else. I'm pretty excited for them.

10:50

So. We'll see. Does that mean

10:52

he can take maybe bigger loads

10:55

of people? Well, exactly. So I

10:57

didn't know this, but there's varying

10:59

degrees of captain's licenses that you

11:01

can get qualified for. So he

11:04

had to study and prepare and

11:06

take the test, the captain's test.

11:08

And all of that includes questions

11:10

like, what color lights are always

11:13

off of the starboard side of

11:15

a... of the boat on a

11:17

buoy in this type of condition

11:19

and what do the lights mean

11:22

and that sort of thing like

11:24

what does the signal flag like

11:26

this what does that mean and

11:29

so all kinds of really crazy

11:31

stuff that he had to study

11:33

and prepare for but He took

11:35

that past with flying colors, but

11:38

he only got the entry-level captain's

11:40

license, which means he's limited to

11:42

six-pane passengers. So he could do

11:44

sunset cruises now on his existing

11:47

boat, because it's not as big

11:49

as this one, and he really

11:51

can only comfortably take. six people.

11:53

So that's been fine up to

11:56

this point but he wants to

11:58

upgrade so he's been having to

12:00

turn away business because sometimes the

12:02

groups that are you know they

12:05

go to his website Grand Haven

12:07

cruises.com and they see oh this

12:09

would be great for a bachelor

12:11

at party or whatever and They

12:14

ask him, hey, how many people

12:16

can come? There's 12 people in

12:18

our group. And he's like, well,

12:21

I can't take that many, but

12:23

I could divvy up your group

12:25

with another buddy of mine who

12:27

has another boat that does the

12:30

same thing, and then we could

12:32

tire boats up together once we're

12:34

out there on the lake, and

12:36

then we can party on both

12:39

boats or whatever you would like.

12:41

And they're like, nah, we all

12:43

want to be together. And so

12:45

then he can't take that group

12:48

legally. So he needs to go

12:50

for the next captain's license, which

12:52

at that point, it stops being

12:54

regulated by the number of passengers,

12:57

but then is regulated by the

12:59

size of the vessel. So at

13:01

that point, it's like the next

13:04

level captain can captain a boat

13:06

up to like 25 tons. It's

13:08

like, well, his boat's not going

13:10

to be. that heavy and then

13:13

there's one beyond that like 50

13:15

tons and there's one after that

13:17

which is like 100 tons that's

13:19

why you have varying degrees of

13:22

captains that can do something as

13:24

small as just like a little

13:26

fishing boat all the way up

13:28

to like a gigantic ferry. Does

13:31

this captain stuff is that just

13:33

like... To enable him to commercially

13:35

take passengers on if he was

13:37

just a guy who wanted a

13:40

giant boat for himself Would he

13:42

have to have any sort of

13:44

license? No, this is just go

13:47

buy a boat. Right. This is

13:49

for commercial reasons. I'm pretty certain.

13:51

Yeah So otherwise if you just

13:53

wanted to go buy a huge

13:56

boat you can do that and

13:58

you can take as many of

14:00

your friends as you want, but

14:02

if they're paying you, that's different.

14:05

Right. Then there's some liability going

14:07

on. But anyways, I thought that

14:09

was kind of a fun trip.

14:11

That was kind of a long-winded

14:14

way to say, it's still snowing.

14:16

You got there. I never would

14:18

have had using your moisture meter

14:20

on a boat on the bingo

14:22

card for today. Yeah. That's crazy.

14:24

Yeah, because usually I forget it.

14:26

Yeah, exactly. And you end up

14:28

with a potato chew. Yeah. Mark,

14:30

what you've been up to

14:32

you? Boy, it doesn't feel like

14:34

much. Last week ended up kind

14:37

of being a waste of a

14:39

week. Just everything I was trying

14:41

to do kept failing on me.

14:43

So I hate those weeks. I

14:45

feel like I have been crazy

14:48

busy and have nothing to show

14:50

for it. Hmm. you know i think

14:52

last week i talked about getting the

14:54

sink done and everything up and running

14:56

and i was gonna have the video

14:58

out by the end of last week

15:00

well a day or two after telling

15:02

you guys that i went down into

15:04

the basement and there's just a

15:06

river of water running from under that

15:08

sink into my floor drain so something

15:11

in the gasket loose or something not

15:13

loose because i have i took it

15:15

apart put it back together, checked all

15:17

the gaskets, tightened everything like I

15:19

did everything you could do and

15:21

there was a fast like under pressure leak

15:24

that sprung out of the bottom of that

15:26

faucet and just hosed down my ground and

15:28

I I must have caught it within an

15:30

hour of it starting because it wasn't as

15:33

bad as it could have been but So

15:35

I wasted a day just trying to fix

15:37

that before I decided there wasn't anything I

15:39

could do about it and got a hold

15:42

of the company and said hey there's there

15:44

is something faulty in this you've got to

15:46

send me a new one so man that

15:48

stinks yeah so knowing that I wasn't going

15:51

to finish the video and publish the

15:53

video because I wasn't going to promote

15:55

this faucet if this faucet was garbage

15:57

that's your the new spray nozzle thing

15:59

right And it had nothing to do

16:01

with that, it was, I narrowed it

16:04

down to the fitting that goes through

16:06

the top of the counter. And then,

16:08

like the, the, the splitter, I guess,

16:10

the combiner, it's not a splitter at

16:13

that point. The, the, the part that

16:15

connects the hot and cold to the

16:17

spigot, goes on top of this, and

16:19

then the feed lines go to the

16:22

bottom of this. And so there was

16:24

something about that part. that just was

16:26

not sealing up right and it and

16:28

it was fine for about three days

16:31

before it sprung a leak so I

16:33

don't know what could have gone wrong

16:35

just sitting there idle and and then

16:37

letting go like that but so it

16:40

took a couple of days and I

16:42

got the new one here yesterday and

16:44

put all this new stuff in it

16:46

and and I isolated it to that

16:49

part so I only replaced that part

16:51

and so far it's working just fine

16:53

so I'm gonna Try to get the

16:55

video mostly finished, but I'm not going

16:58

to publish it until I'm sure that

17:00

it's going to work this time And

17:02

so maybe I just got a bad

17:04

part Yeah at this point with how

17:07

many times you have water down there

17:09

with different things just you need a

17:11

motion sensor camera That's just always broadcasting.

17:13

Yeah, or just turn off the water

17:16

and just speak. Yeah, we just don't

17:18

use water here At all. Yeah, just

17:20

go bathing a lake Yeah, and then

17:22

the other little thing that ended up

17:25

taking way too much time was my

17:27

oldest kid came home from school at

17:29

the end of the week, the week

17:31

before and said, Dad, I need a

17:34

business card. All right, I'm going to

17:36

need you to tell me a little

17:38

more because I mean, are we designing

17:40

you a business card? This seems, no,

17:43

I need one of yours to give

17:45

to a teacher. She wants to have

17:47

you do something for. Oh, you got

17:49

you got your little salesman. All right.

17:52

Never did figure out how she knew

17:54

his dad did woodworking. I have no

17:56

idea how that, because he told me

17:58

he never told her. Whatever the case

18:01

was, she had... had ordered a custom

18:03

engraved, very plain maple cutting board

18:05

for her daughter's wedding

18:08

shower? Is that a thing? A shower

18:10

before the wedding? Yeah. I

18:12

don't, I don't remember weddings.

18:14

It's been a while now.

18:17

Anyway, she ordered this thing.

18:19

She wanted to buy local, couldn't

18:21

find local, ordered it from Indiana or

18:23

something like that. And she said, she's

18:25

been the one planning the shower and

18:28

planning this and planning that and it

18:30

needed to have the date of the

18:32

wedding on it, which was the 6th of

18:34

September and the board came back with

18:37

the 8th of September written on it.

18:39

Oh no. And she immediately contacted them

18:41

and said, well, you did this wrong.

18:43

And they're like, well, no, look,

18:46

look at what you wrote for

18:48

us. And sure enough, she had

18:50

typed the wrong number in. It

18:52

was just, she was confused by

18:54

dates, put the wrong number in,

18:57

and said, well, can you guys

18:59

help me? And they're like, no.

19:01

We can't, we're not gonna give

19:04

you a new one because you

19:06

made a mistake. So she was looking

19:08

for somebody who could do engraving. It

19:10

wasn't just. a superficial surface thing. Oh,

19:12

so you... Not much left if you

19:14

scraped it off. Yeah, you might be

19:16

able to plane it off and do

19:18

a new one right? So she brings

19:20

it out to me and I say

19:23

the only way we can fix this,

19:25

I can't erase us eight and turn

19:27

it into a six, it doesn't work

19:29

that way. I have to plane all

19:31

of it down and start over and I

19:33

won't have the exact fonts. I can

19:35

come close if that's what you want

19:37

and I can make it look similar

19:39

but different. And at that point I'm like,

19:42

is this easier if I just made

19:44

a new board? No, because this board

19:46

is sitting here and run it through the

19:48

planer, sand it quick and I'm done, right?

19:50

So it takes me a little bit of

19:52

time in the computer to work up

19:54

a file and I sent it to her and

19:56

I said, hey, this is exactly what I'm going

19:59

to put back on. there make sure

20:01

you like it before I do

20:03

that. Yep that's fine so then

20:05

I hadn't run my laser in

20:07

a week or two or something

20:09

like that I better do a

20:11

test of this so I put

20:13

a scrap piece of maple in

20:15

zero it off send it and

20:17

it's perfect everything's good put the

20:19

now blank good board in oh

20:21

no I sense a failure I

20:24

know I feel I feel I

20:26

feel anticipation and I set, I

20:28

put it back in place, I

20:30

line it up so it's square

20:32

and ready, and I hit start,

20:34

and the engraving starts about three

20:36

inches higher than it should have

20:38

started. Oh no. So I immediately

20:40

hit stop, but you already have,

20:42

I mean, it's almost nothing, but

20:45

you have this line of the

20:47

bottom of the text that just

20:49

started showing up. Right. And it's

20:51

three inches higher than it ought

20:53

to be. And you go, what

20:55

the heck. Well. I knew instantly

20:57

what I had done, and I

20:59

knew... You didn't re-zero? My laser

21:01

doesn't use lightburn. With lightburn, you

21:03

tell it where you're zeroing off

21:05

of the workpiece, right? Correct. Off

21:08

of the vector. Yeah, off of

21:10

your image. Right, right, so... So

21:12

like in the center or bottom

21:14

left or whatever? Yeah. But where

21:16

the laser head is never really

21:18

matters. No. Correct. So with mine

21:20

it zeros off of the laser

21:22

head. So wherever it starts, the

21:24

computer knows where the laser is.

21:26

And now it doesn't matter, you

21:28

just have to tell it to

21:31

zero there. So you drag the

21:33

artwork into place and it will

21:35

snap to the lower left corner

21:37

or the center or the wherever

21:39

of the artwork. And then once

21:41

you drop it there, the laser

21:43

is zeroed to your artwork and

21:45

your workpiece. Because that's where you

21:47

put it. Well. if you move

21:49

the laser head to re-square so

21:51

that you know you're perfectly horizontal

21:54

and and then move it back

21:56

to your centermark, which might not

21:58

be the same place as the

22:00

centermark was the last time you

22:02

did it, and you don't red

22:04

drag the artwork in the software

22:06

to snap to center again, then

22:08

it's gonna start wherever it started

22:10

last time. So my artwork wasn't

22:12

on the bed in the exact

22:15

same place as it was before.

22:17

That's frustrating. So you got to

22:19

make a board? No. So I

22:21

just planed it again and got

22:23

it another 30 second of an

22:25

inch shorter than it shorter than

22:27

it. should have been and so

22:29

this whole thing that should have

22:31

taken I don't know a half

22:33

hour start to finish honestly took

22:35

me half a day by the

22:38

time I was all done fighting

22:40

with all of the testing and

22:42

all of the this and all

22:44

of the that and then the

22:46

kicker to the whole thing was

22:48

she paid $70 for this board

22:50

from the start and and when

22:52

she's telling me this issue I'm

22:54

thinking I'm gonna charge her 50

22:56

bucks by the time I've got

22:58

I'm going to be two hours

23:01

into this, probably confidently by the

23:03

time I've done the artwork and

23:05

emailed her and received from her

23:07

and done a test and this

23:09

and that. And so it's like,

23:11

I can't charge the lady $70

23:13

for a $70 thing at this

23:15

point. That was me being wishy-washy.

23:17

That was not me not being

23:19

a good business owner and just

23:21

standing up for what I should

23:24

have, you know, this is going

23:26

to cost you this. I should

23:28

have told her that up front.

23:30

And then I find out it's

23:32

not really even one of my

23:34

kids' teachers, it's some teacher from

23:36

the school that knew him in

23:38

passing and whatever. And it's like,

23:40

well, come on. I didn't need

23:42

it. I didn't need the frustration.

23:45

I didn't need the $20 I

23:47

made. Like all of it was

23:49

just a losing endeavor for me.

23:51

And I don't know, there's maybe

23:53

some goodwill. put in there somewhere

23:55

but I just don't know so

23:57

yeah I mean she might come

23:59

back Next time knowing that you

24:01

know you deliver quality. Yeah, or she'll

24:04

tell other people Yeah, let's let's

24:06

hope that's the case because that

24:08

was just another Waste of a

24:10

half a day That those kind

24:12

of projects are so frustrating even

24:14

if you do price it right

24:16

and then you run into issues

24:18

you're like well, this isn't profitable

24:20

anymore. I thought it was gonna

24:22

take me an hour and it

24:24

took me three and a half,

24:26

you know, right? That's so frustrating.

24:28

Right, but that's really what my

24:30

whole week felt like last week

24:32

was just well you can't do this

24:34

well you can't do that well you

24:36

can do this and then fail at

24:38

it and so it's a new week

24:40

we'll we'll hope for better this week.

24:42

What do you remember I told you

24:45

guys that not too long ago

24:47

I went and picked up a

24:49

big commercial zero turn mower? Yeah,

24:51

yeah. After we recorded last week, I

24:53

think it was the next day, I

24:55

went out to land and it needed

24:57

mowing, like the grass that started growing

24:59

enough and that rain was starting either

25:01

Wednesday night or Thursday, so I was

25:03

like, okay, we gotta try to do

25:05

this. So, cranked it up and got

25:07

everything set, first of all, you know, if

25:09

you have trees around, that first mowing for

25:12

the spring, there are so many limbs you

25:14

have to pick up before you do that.

25:16

and like we have a tree line all

25:18

in the fence row that goes along about

25:20

three acres worth and then up another three

25:22

acres so I spent like an hour picking

25:24

up sticks before I could even mow yeah

25:27

got all those picked up and got it

25:29

cranked and ready to go and I was

25:31

like all right let's just see how long

25:33

this takes so my my bet was when

25:35

I bought it that even though it's slightly

25:37

smaller it's a 60 inch so the the

25:40

pull behind finish more that I had on

25:42

the tractor was a 72 inch full six

25:44

feet full six feet So it's a foot

25:46

smaller technically, but even though the tractor

25:48

turns pretty sharp for a tractor, you know,

25:50

it's hydrostatic so I could like

25:52

pull up and do a three point turn every

25:55

time I do a row, but it's usually faster

25:57

to just kind of loop it, but it's like

25:59

a 20 foot loop. You know, I

26:01

mean, it's big. It would typically take

26:03

me about three, a little over three

26:05

to three and a half hours to

26:07

mow all five acres. Right now it's

26:10

pretty much just grass. You know, I

26:12

have some little trees I've planted to

26:14

go around. That's part of what was

26:16

taking so long because we've now planted

26:19

38 trees. I want to take a

26:21

guess at how long I was able

26:23

to do it with the zero turn.

26:25

How long did you say with the

26:27

old one? About three and a half.

26:30

I'd say two hours. I was going

26:32

to say two. Real close. Yeah, real

26:34

close. I didn't quite cut it fully

26:36

in half, but it was real close.

26:39

It was like just under two hours.

26:41

I remember when I was down at

26:43

Mark's tree farm, mowing with his zero

26:45

turn around all those walnut trees, it

26:48

was super easy. I would like just

26:50

do like a slalom run like a

26:52

skier goes down and then I would

26:54

turn around and just do the slalom

26:56

run back the other way and then

26:59

boom all those trees have been mowed

27:01

around. Yeah it was a it was

27:03

a little muddy even even then so

27:05

I had to be careful on the

27:08

turning around you know I couldn't zip

27:10

quite like I probably would but even

27:12

with doing that I mean to cut

27:14

an hour and a half off of

27:16

something that's a That's a pretty big

27:19

win, I'm glad for that. So, yeah.

27:21

I did get an upgraded seat for

27:23

it that I didn't put on there

27:25

yet. I wanted to mow with it

27:28

once before I did that. So they

27:30

make these, I don't really know the

27:32

official name, they're like a full suspension

27:34

seat for these commercial mowers. Like an

27:36

air ride almost. Yeah. And they have

27:39

up to three inches of travel. Hmm.

27:41

So you, they have a dial on

27:43

the front and you can set the

27:45

dial basically to what your weight is

27:48

so that it knows how much to

27:50

give up and down as it's going

27:52

across bumps and stuff, but it can

27:54

travel up to three inches as you're

27:56

doing it. So it's basically like your.

27:59

I think your dad's has that mark

28:01

where you're sitting in a seat and

28:03

it's basically just floating as you're going

28:05

to cross bumps and stuff. Whereas the

28:08

mower is kind of handling all those

28:10

bumps. So it beat me up a

28:12

little bit, not having that on there.

28:14

So I'm gonna swap it out for

28:16

the next time and see what the

28:19

difference is. I think it's gonna be

28:21

a pretty big difference. You mentioned picking

28:23

up all the sticks and stuff and

28:25

I've done that here too and I've

28:28

got to go do another lap before

28:30

I have to do my first mowing

28:32

this year this year. The formula I've

28:34

kind of ended up going with is,

28:37

you know, my big tractor is my

28:39

big mower. That's got a 72 inch

28:41

belly deck on it. But I take

28:43

that off in the wintertime to use

28:45

it for push in snow. So you

28:48

don't really need that big belly mower

28:50

on there in the way when you're

28:52

trying to move through snow. I also

28:54

have a little 40 inch. Just a

28:57

junky horrible old I think it used

28:59

to be I think it was originally

29:01

bought from Home Depot My brother-in-law works

29:03

at a real live John dear dealership

29:05

and he ended up with it Because

29:08

somebody didn't want it anymore and I

29:10

bought it from them for 50 bucks

29:12

And so it's I mean you can't

29:14

even get it cost me $50 to

29:17

take my family to Arby's half the

29:19

time I take the hood off of

29:21

it because it falls off anyway, so

29:23

I'm just driving around with a hoodless

29:25

just garbage mower that just keeps. And

29:28

you might as well take your shirt

29:30

off at that point. And that's the

29:32

one I use for getting around trees

29:34

and getting in close to stuff. And

29:37

so for the first mowing of the

29:39

year, I use that one with its

29:41

beat up old blades from the year

29:43

before. I just mow the entire yard

29:45

with that thing once because there's always

29:48

sticks that you don't manage to get

29:50

picked up. because I have a gravel

29:52

driveway, there's always rocks and gravel that

29:54

got pushed out into the grass from

29:57

the snow. And so I just absolutely

29:59

thrash those blades for one last cutting,

30:01

one first cutting of the spring. And

30:03

at that point, I'm pretty confident it's

30:05

not going to go bad again. And

30:08

then my big mower, I'll have sharpened.

30:10

the blades on that and I'm ready

30:12

to you know ready to go for

30:14

the year and then I'll you know

30:17

that's a good idea quick tear the

30:19

blades off of the little guy and

30:21

sharpen those up and get him back

30:23

up and running and you're basically using

30:26

them like a mulcher almost before you

30:28

sharpen them for the year just a

30:30

little bit it's probably not great for

30:32

it but it's way better to abuse

30:34

that thing and I went there to

30:37

pick up something. I forget what it

30:39

was. Oh, I think it was all

30:41

my fertilizer and grass seed, but I

30:43

figured, you know what? I'm going to

30:46

peruse the lawn mower section because you

30:48

guys have heard me complain about my

30:50

mower and just how much I hate

30:52

it. I bag all of my grass

30:54

clippings, so I'm not, I don't do

30:57

the mulching. I bag it all and

30:59

then I dispose of all the clippings

31:01

off to the side back into the

31:03

woods of my house. The issue is

31:06

that my mower doesn't pick up the

31:08

grass clippings all that well. I will

31:10

do like two or three passes and

31:12

it only gets the bag like a...

31:14

quarter full before the shoot clogs up

31:17

and then I got a stop, turn

31:19

off the mower, unhook the bag, lift

31:21

up the bag, push all those clippings

31:23

down, unclog the hole, put the bag

31:26

back on and do another two to

31:28

three passes and then repeat. So it's

31:30

very very frustrating to use and I

31:32

wanted to look at a different mower

31:34

because I'm like. I could probably sell

31:37

this mower to somebody who's not going

31:39

to bag their grass and they would

31:41

probably give me, I don't know, two

31:43

or three hundred bucks for it. So

31:46

maybe I can just look at a

31:48

different mower and try something new and

31:50

I'm looking at all these other mowers

31:52

and then off to the side I

31:54

hear Mr. Fisher and I look over

31:57

and I recognize the guy. He's a

31:59

fan of my channel. and I've met

32:01

him before and I'm like

32:04

you're just blank I

32:06

had no idea what this

32:08

guy's name was so I'm

32:10

like hey you how you

32:13

doing how you doing and

32:15

he's like what are you

32:17

doing what are you looking

32:19

at you know and so

32:22

I'm telling him about my

32:24

issue and he says now

32:26

I used to sell garden

32:29

equipment and lawnmowers back

32:31

in the day, he

32:33

says the problem is

32:35

not necessarily the mower itself.

32:37

It's more or less the

32:40

blade. I'm like, oh, really? He

32:42

says, yeah. So before you go

32:45

and spend $500 or something on

32:47

a brand new mower, spend

32:49

$30 on this blade. And

32:51

he took me to a

32:53

website on his phone and

32:56

showed me like some aftermarket.

32:58

Blade that's compatible with my

33:00

mower. He's like one of

33:02

those that has like a different

33:04

shape to it it it does

33:06

have a different shape to it

33:09

and it's got like different notch

33:11

cutouts or whatever I don't know,

33:13

but it's meant for Really lifting

33:15

and creating like a I don't

33:17

know if it would be considered

33:20

a vacuum or whatever to really

33:22

suck those clippings up and and

33:24

shoot them down the well the

33:26

shoot into the bag And he

33:28

says, this has fixed exactly your

33:31

problem with a number of different

33:33

mowers. I'm really thinking it's going

33:35

to solve your issue. So I

33:37

thought, all right, well, I'll give

33:39

it a shot. So I bought

33:42

that blade. I haven't put it

33:44

on. I haven't even had my first

33:46

mowing to do yet. My grass

33:48

isn't growing quite yet. But I'm

33:51

excited to see if that solves

33:53

it. And if it doesn't, well,

33:55

then I will kill him. Yeah,

33:57

you're dead to me.

34:00

The mower you have, isn't it

34:02

relatively new anyway? Because recently you

34:04

told a story about getting an

34:06

electric mower that you hated and

34:08

returned, right? Well that's what this

34:10

mower was. So like, it's a

34:12

toro. I'm not afraid to tell

34:14

the name because I really don't

34:16

like them, but it was the

34:18

toro electric mower that I got

34:20

and I mowed my front yard

34:22

with it and I took it

34:24

back to the dealer and I

34:26

said this thing cannot pick up

34:28

clippings to save its life and

34:30

the battery died on my front

34:32

lawn and I have to I

34:34

had to recharge it just to

34:36

do that and I live on

34:38

a little postage stamp of a

34:40

lot and the guy that's when

34:42

the guy said well how are

34:44

you mowing? I'm pushing it. Well,

34:46

it's on and then I'm walking

34:48

behind it. Are you seriously asking

34:50

me how I'm mowing? And that's

34:52

when I said, listen, I brought

34:54

it with me, I will take

34:56

it out of my truck and

34:58

I will go mow the grass

35:00

in front of your store right

35:03

now and show you how it

35:05

doesn't pick anything up. And there

35:07

was other customers around that were

35:09

listening and he's like, uh, we're

35:11

not going to do that. Just

35:13

go ahead, bring it in and...

35:15

And I said, I just want

35:17

to substitute it out and get

35:19

the gas powered version of the

35:21

same mower. Because it was a

35:23

Toro dealership. All they sold was

35:25

Toro. So he's like, well, I

35:27

mean, do you think it's going

35:29

to be different? And I'm like,

35:31

oh, I'm hoping it's going to

35:33

be different. I think the gas

35:35

one's going to have more power.

35:37

I don't know. So I just

35:39

want to get the gas powered

35:41

version one and do away with

35:43

this electronic version. exact same mower

35:45

but it was the gas powered

35:47

one brought it home exact same

35:49

problem so I'm like okay I'm

35:51

just I don't know what to

35:53

do the the only thing he

35:55

would let me do was do

35:57

an exchange I couldn't return it

35:59

so I was stuck with that

36:01

one and I've been at least

36:04

this one won't run out in

36:06

the middle of your yard Right,

36:08

exactly. So in that regard, it's

36:10

been nice. So I, anyways, I

36:12

was looking at like the ego

36:14

electronic mowers. I've heard really good

36:16

things about those. So that's what

36:18

I was looking at at Gamins,

36:20

my hardware store, and as well

36:22

as looking at like the Honda's,

36:24

because I know the Honda's are

36:26

really good. So. Yeah, and. I

36:28

don't know. I'm gonna try this

36:30

blade and we'll see if the

36:32

blade works. If the blade doesn't

36:34

work, then I'm only out 30

36:36

bucks and then I'll just sell

36:38

the mower and get something new.

36:40

You strike me as a guy

36:42

who would be a good candidate

36:44

for one of those Roomba like

36:46

lawnmowers. That's just always out there,

36:48

always doing it. And you don't

36:50

really have to worry about picking

36:52

up clippings if it cuts it

36:54

every quarter inch. But you know.

36:56

I've, okay, so first off, I've

36:58

had like three or four companies

37:00

reach out to me and want

37:02

to sponsor me with one of

37:05

those robot mowers. And I've thought

37:07

about it. I'm like, you know,

37:09

I mean, I have a tiny,

37:11

tiny lawn. It could do that,

37:13

but I don't like that it

37:15

doesn't get right to the edge.

37:17

So I would still have to

37:19

go out there and weed whack.

37:21

Do a lot of edging. And

37:23

do the edging, but you know,

37:25

even on a bigger issue is

37:27

that I really enjoy mowing. I

37:29

really enjoy mowing. I love it.

37:31

I love just putting on my

37:33

headphones, rocking out to some music

37:35

and cutting stripes in my lawn.

37:37

I love it. So it's very

37:39

therapeutic for me, so I didn't

37:41

want to give that up for

37:43

a robot. You know, if those

37:45

blades don't work, an option that

37:47

might be a little cheaper than

37:49

going behind a whole new mower,

37:51

there are some of those like

37:53

push behind sweepers that you could

37:55

just mow it into rows or

37:57

whatever and then just... just push,

37:59

you don't even, you know, obviously

38:01

they make the pole behind kind

38:03

for like riding mowers, but they

38:06

make some that just have a

38:08

handle that you just push almost

38:10

like a wheelbarrow. But then that

38:12

messes up my stripes. Yeah, maybe.

38:14

My stripes. I know, I have

38:16

to have the best looking lawn

38:18

on the street if possible. but

38:20

the moles have pretty much made

38:22

that impossible. The dandelions have ruined

38:24

it here for me and my

38:26

yard is just a dandelion. I

38:28

need to put out some stuff

38:30

for it but it's been too

38:32

wet. I want to thank our

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39:37

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39:39

he was going to transition from

39:41

a typical woodworking shop over to

39:43

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39:45

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39:47

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39:49

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40:05

and he said this to me.

40:07

Hey Drew, thanks so much for

40:10

getting back to me and giving

40:12

some thoughts on the CNC. Since

40:14

we last spoke, I've had a

40:16

tornado. run through and take away

40:18

my shop and my barn and

40:20

my guest house. So my plans

40:22

for the new CNC are on

40:24

hold for a while and he

40:26

sent me some pictures. His shop

40:28

was obliterated. I mean it was

40:30

just annihilated. Gone. I mean there

40:32

was a whole bunch of shop

40:34

equipment laying there like on its

40:36

side and just... Did you tell

40:38

you where he was when the

40:40

tornado went through? No, I don't

40:42

think so. It might be later

40:44

in this email. We'll have to

40:46

see. I don't think so though.

40:48

But if you zoom in on

40:50

one of the pictures, and maybe

40:52

I'll include these pictures on the

40:54

We Built The Thing Instagram, but

40:56

you can see his band saw,

40:58

and my stickers on his band

41:00

saw. So it's kind of funny

41:02

to see that my sticker went

41:04

through a tornado. Anyways, he says,

41:06

I'm not sure if you guys

41:08

still take listener questions on the

41:11

podcast. Of course we do. In

41:13

case you do, I have a

41:15

few related to rebuilding my shop.

41:17

This time, I get to build

41:19

it the way I want, so

41:21

I can make sure to get

41:23

it just right. I'm wondering if

41:25

you have any thoughts on the

41:27

following. I'm thinking of 30 by

41:29

40. That's a good size shop

41:31

right there. I'm thinking of 30

41:33

by 40. I don't think I

41:35

can afford to go any bigger.

41:37

I'm thinking of closed cell spray

41:39

on insulation. It gets pretty hot

41:41

here in Texas. Oh, so he's

41:43

in Texas. And I'd like to

41:45

be able to work year-round if

41:47

possible. What are your thoughts on

41:49

overhead fans and lights and any

41:51

suggestions are appreciated? As far as

41:53

ceiling height, I'm thinking of 10

41:55

feet, but I'm interested in your

41:57

thoughts. Electrical outlets. How many on

41:59

each wall? I'm thinking of a

42:01

single 220 on each wall as

42:03

my table saw and band saw

42:05

need this, and I'll have at

42:07

least one mini split that will

42:09

need to. How many 110 outlets

42:11

per wall do you recommend? And

42:14

as far as tool placement, I'm

42:16

thinking of putting my table saw

42:18

on the middle and then the

42:20

other tools like the band saw,

42:22

the drill press, joiner, planer, C

42:24

and C, laser around it on

42:26

the walls. Does this make sense

42:28

or do you have any other

42:30

ideas? Any other thoughts that... You

42:32

have what you would do if

42:34

you had the chance to design

42:36

your dream shop. Let me know

42:38

that'd be appreciated. This is my

42:40

one and only shot. So I'd

42:42

like to do the best I

42:44

can. Finally, I want to thank

42:46

you again for your kind words.

42:48

Take care. Thanks again. So, he

42:50

has got a big project ahead

42:52

of him, rebuilding the shop. Putting

42:54

yourself in his shoes. What would

42:56

your recommendations be? as far as

42:58

building a shop. Well I like

43:00

this idea of the size of

43:02

it. It seems like a pretty

43:04

good size. I don't know what

43:06

tools he's going to have, you

43:08

know, with you saying he's kind

43:10

of transitioning to CNC type stuff.

43:12

So that may dictate the outlets.

43:15

He did. imply that he's still,

43:17

I mean his symptoms haven't fully

43:19

developed yet for Parkinson's disease so

43:21

he's still very capable as a

43:23

woodworker and so he's going to

43:25

slowly transition over to the CNC

43:27

shop but for now consider it

43:29

to be just building out a

43:31

woodworking shop. I would say that

43:33

having the table saw is the

43:35

center point, definitely that's, it's got

43:37

to be in the center. But

43:39

then consider the workflow of maybe

43:41

milling. So I would put the

43:43

planar in a spot that would

43:45

be convenient to get the boards

43:47

from there to the table saw

43:49

or to the joiner. So I

43:51

would position those three closer together.

43:53

Yeah, they can usually go in

43:55

a little island together. Yeah. The

43:57

other thing I was thinking, because

43:59

I've been thinking through this of

44:01

building a barn shop real similar

44:03

to that. I was thinking of

44:05

the closed foam, close cell spray foam,

44:08

but it may have been well wider.

44:10

Somebody I was talking to that was

44:12

saying you might want to consider just

44:14

doing kind of a wood frame on

44:16

the inside and then you can you

44:18

can actually probably get a little

44:21

better R value by putting bat

44:23

in there and then you have

44:25

studs to like put wood walls up or

44:27

whatever and you can hang things on the

44:29

wall. You know what I mean? Maybe a

44:31

little easier than if you're building a pole

44:34

barn and just put the spray foam on

44:36

the inside that may not be much to

44:38

attach wall type structures too. Yeah, so if

44:40

you skin the wall, you're just talking about

44:43

skinning the whole inside of the wall with

44:45

like a half inch OSB or something? Yeah.

44:47

Yeah, because I think that would be really

44:50

useful to be able to hang something

44:52

absolutely anywhere. Right. Right. I mean, I

44:54

think a lot of his shop layout

44:56

might be dictated by dust collection too,

44:58

right? That's kind of what I was

45:00

going to suggest is I would maybe

45:02

work out where that's going to be

45:05

and how you're going to do it, if

45:07

it's just going to be freestanding in the

45:09

room, if it's going to be in its

45:11

own kind of sound-proof closet to try to

45:13

keep some of the noise of it down,

45:15

something like that I might start at the

45:18

dust collection and build out from there. Yeah,

45:20

I wonder if he has a way to

45:22

a way to just Shoot it straight outside,

45:24

right? I don't know if he has enough

45:26

property to do that and then what

45:28

people are always talking about when he

45:31

was mentioning the heat He's in Texas

45:33

if you do that like you're talking

45:35

about mark You know when you're when

45:37

you're shooting something outside You're replacing all

45:39

of your nice cool air right with hot

45:42

air from outside. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's true

45:44

even though you're keeping the noise down. I

45:46

don't know if that trade off's worth it

45:48

right as far as I'm concerned, you know when

45:50

it comes to size I think he should do

45:52

the biggest he can afford and it sounds like

45:54

he's worked out already I don't know what size

45:56

shop he had before but in my experience I

45:59

went from a 19 by 19, which I

46:01

was maxed out into a 25 by

46:03

25, and when I first moved here,

46:05

I only used half of that 25.

46:07

You still could have parked a

46:09

car in that other garage bay

46:11

for a while, and then as

46:13

I upgraded tools and grew, now I'm

46:15

maxed out again. And for the

46:17

longest time when I had that

46:19

almost one car garage that was

46:22

empty, I was so nice to

46:24

just have that. be where I

46:26

staged up materials or put together

46:28

a bed frame or a dining

46:30

room table or whatever. So I

46:32

guess when it comes to putting

46:34

stuff in there, I think I

46:36

would organize it so that you're

46:38

using the smallest footprint you can

46:40

will still not, you know, banging

46:42

into yourself and have a bunch

46:44

of just open space because open

46:46

space is so valuable. Yeah. And then

46:49

his electrical questions, I think he's on

46:51

the right track. If he can know

46:53

where his tools are going to go,

46:55

that helps quite a bit to figure

46:58

out where he needs to run things

47:00

too. You know, I've got two different

47:02

tools in the middle of my shop

47:04

that have 220 coming down from

47:06

the ceiling. I don't know that I

47:08

have two tools on any one wall

47:10

that would have 220. So like he

47:12

was saying, if you have one on

47:14

each wall that might get the job

47:16

done. My concern, and he said how many

47:19

outlets per wall, I don't know how

47:21

long. what would you say every four

47:23

feet every three feet something like

47:25

that every two seems like maybe

47:27

too much that's all close but

47:29

my my recommendation would be to

47:32

make sure you have lots of

47:34

different circuits you know I think

47:36

here the restriction is 10 outlets

47:38

per circuit or something like that but

47:40

I you know if you were actually

47:43

running four or five or ten tools

47:45

on one circuit you're gonna blow that

47:47

thing all of the time and I'm

47:49

he's probably the only guy in there

47:51

but well if you're running them all

47:53

at once it's right I come from

47:55

two different shops where there is one

47:57

circuit for the entire shop and so I

47:59

would absolutely split that up

48:01

a lot. There was one just in

48:04

the garage wiring that was here

48:06

when I moved here and I

48:08

hired a guy and he added

48:10

seven different circuits of like varying

48:12

degrees so I went a little

48:14

overboard but while you're at it

48:16

and if you're doing rewiring it's

48:18

not that hard to just add

48:20

a bunch of circuits. You know

48:22

I only have I have one

48:24

circuit for my lights and then I

48:26

have one circuit for my one

48:28

ten outlets in my shop. and

48:30

then I have one circuit for

48:33

my 220 dust collector. That's the

48:35

only 220 that I have is

48:37

for my dust collector. Everything else

48:39

is on 110 and everything is

48:42

on a single circuit, but I

48:44

just don't run tools. I don't

48:46

have more than one tool going.

48:48

The only time I do that

48:50

is maybe I'll have my table

48:52

saw going and I'll rip a

48:54

board down and then I'll notice.

48:56

It's like, ah, there's a... narrowly

48:59

not on this one. I need to

49:01

nip this off real quick and I'll

49:03

just leave the table saw going and

49:05

I'll step back over to the mitre

49:07

saw, nip it off really quick, and

49:09

then I go back to the table

49:12

saw and finish my cuts. So

49:14

in that case, yeah, I had two tools

49:16

running for a split second, but

49:18

I have never popped a breaker.

49:20

Granted, it's a 20 amp fuse,

49:22

but I don't know. I don't think it's

49:24

that big of a deal in a

49:26

shop because I think... More often than

49:28

not, if you don't have employees, you're

49:31

not running more than one or two

49:33

tools at a time. Yeah, I mean, one

49:35

of the only things you can pretty

49:37

much count on running at the same

49:39

time is a dust collector with some

49:41

other tool. Right. If you get a

49:43

bigger dust collector, it's got to probably

49:46

have a higher amp circuit anyways. You

49:48

probably want it on its own. Absolutely.

49:50

He's doing new construction, so maybe his

49:52

modern stuff is going to work better,

49:55

but in both of my shops. Really?

49:57

Constantly. Just using a shop vac into

49:59

tool. So the other thing is if

50:01

he is switching over to a C

50:03

and C based shop, I don't know

50:05

how many C and C machines that

50:07

might end up being, but if he

50:09

has a shop vac and a C

50:12

and C machine and he's got three

50:14

of them, and he's running them all

50:16

at the same time, now he's got

50:18

six tools running at the same time.

50:20

And maybe he's gonna have one massive

50:22

dust collector pulling from all of this

50:24

stuff. I mean, there's a lot of

50:26

assumptions we'd have to make to make

50:28

to really make a good recommendation on

50:30

that. My point is don't put one

50:32

in, definitely don't just do one circuit.

50:34

No, and safe to say, I mean,

50:36

while you're at it, it's pretty easy

50:38

to just have 200 amp service to

50:40

that shop, right? I mean, that's what

50:42

I would recommend at least. I mean,

50:44

if you have room for more, I

50:46

don't know if you do. I'm assuming

50:48

you're probably sharing with your house, but

50:50

I'm gonna end up putting 400 amp

50:53

service in for the house and the

50:55

shop and probably splitting it half. He

50:57

asked about fans and I don't really

51:00

have much on that. There is a

51:02

old crappy, like dining room style ceiling

51:04

fan in my shop that was always

51:07

there. And every once in a while

51:09

I pull the chain and knock the

51:11

dust off the fins and that's about

51:13

all I use mine for. You know,

51:16

I have extreme cold and extreme heat

51:18

up here and my window air conditioner

51:20

is really about all I use to

51:23

keep cool in there. And then lighting.

51:25

you can't have too many lights. You

51:27

can't. I think I have close to

51:30

20, between 15 and 20, four foot

51:32

LED lights in my shop. And if

51:34

I had more, I wouldn't be mad.

51:36

Yeah. I think I have eight of

51:39

those LED fixtures, which are the long

51:41

ones, kind of like the old fluorescent

51:43

tubes. I have eight of those in

51:46

the main area of my shop, but

51:48

my shop is small. You know, it's

51:50

only like 12 bite. 16 I think

51:53

it's really a small area but it's

51:55

a lot of And if you're looking

51:57

at, you know, what did he say

51:59

he was going to do, 30 by

52:02

40, something like that? I mean, that's

52:04

a big area. I would just really

52:06

outfit a lot of it as much

52:09

as you can with those LED fixtures.

52:11

They're cheap. And like Mark said, you

52:13

just can't get enough of them. As

52:16

far as ceiling height, 10 foot, I

52:18

think it sounds ideal. Yeah, that's what

52:20

I'm going to go with. I mean,

52:22

that's good. I mean, I would keep

52:25

the ceiling. as low as you can,

52:27

but yet high enough for comfort because

52:29

of cooling. So if you have a

52:32

smaller area to keep cool or a

52:34

smaller area to keep warm, it's just

52:36

gonna get to those desirable temperatures faster.

52:39

Yeah, I have nine foot ceilings in

52:41

the shop right now and it's frustrating

52:43

because a lot of boards, if you

52:45

buy raw lumber, they could be just

52:48

over nine feet. That's kind of like

52:50

a standard thing, and you can't even

52:52

stand it up fully. you know, or

52:55

like flip it around without hitting the

52:57

ceiling. So I would say go 10

52:59

at least. Yeah, and that's what I

53:02

was going to say. I think mine

53:04

must be pretty close to 10 because

53:06

most boards, if I need to swap

53:08

a men for end, I can do

53:11

it vertically. I can go up in

53:13

the air and not bang into stuff

53:15

as opposed to spinning it horizontally and

53:18

hitting tools and dust pipes and all

53:20

sorts of stuff. Yeah, this other thing

53:22

is ducting. You know you want some

53:25

room for your ducting up there if

53:27

you're gonna run run it up and

53:29

above Yeah, that'll give you an ample

53:31

room up there Well, hopefully those little

53:34

nuggets of semi wisdom will help you

53:36

out Ron. Thanks for writing in. I'm

53:38

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yesterday I walked around the main floor

56:52

of my house and filmed I guess

56:55

the intro and what's going to be

56:57

the before video for the whole kitchen

56:59

project I just kind of held the

57:01

camera and pointed at things and talked

57:04

through what the plan is and I

57:06

really all it needs to do is

57:08

establish to the audience introduce the project

57:10

but establish the before shots I need

57:12

to have a bunch of This is

57:15

how ugly and horrible things are. And

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then we can go back and tie

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into this when the whole thing is

57:21

done. Can it please be as funny

57:24

as the Casita intro? We're like, oop,

57:26

you run out of there? So anyway,

57:28

that's filmed, that'll come out after this

57:30

basement video. So I've got two videos

57:32

filmed and just ready to cut together

57:35

and get out. And I did that

57:37

yesterday because... It's time. It's time. I'm

57:39

actually going to start pulling out like

57:41

those silly corner built-in things. I think

57:44

they are each held to the wall

57:46

with four flathead screws. Oh, right. So

57:48

I'm going to pull those out maybe

57:50

even today if I get grumpy enough

57:53

at them and see what that room

57:55

looks like with that much space brought

57:57

back but then like I've moved all

57:59

of my stuff out of the front

58:01

closet and I could start taking some

58:04

doors out and some trim off and

58:06

what I've worked out is we talked

58:08

about getting a roll-off dumpster and parking

58:10

it in the yard and that's going

58:13

to end up being a thousand dollars

58:15

to get rid of garbage. Can't you

58:17

just light it on fire? I would

58:19

love to, but it's rock laugh, so

58:21

it won't burn. But you can load

58:24

up a whole trailer or truck full

58:26

and take it to the dump for

58:28

like 30 bucks, probably. Well, that's what

58:30

we're doing. You know, my little trailer

58:33

would take five, six, seven trips, and

58:35

I would have to handle it into

58:37

the trailer and lift it out of

58:39

the trailer. So Katie's uncle is gonna

58:41

be bringing a dump trailer and parking

58:44

it under a window under a window,

58:46

and we're gonna pull the window out.

58:48

and just go nuts and rip everything

58:50

off and huck it out the window

58:53

straight into the dump trailer and then

58:55

I can just haul that to the

58:57

dump and dump it. I know here

58:59

in my county, citizens... have certain number

59:01

of dump days that they don't charge

59:04

for. So like as long as you're

59:06

not doing it for a business, you

59:08

can haul an entire load. I think

59:10

something like four times a year for

59:13

free. And I know the county I

59:15

grew up in, you have to be

59:17

a resident of that county to use

59:19

that dump, and then there's either a

59:22

weight fee or a volume fee or

59:24

just a trip, something like that. The

59:26

county I'm in now, I'm one county

59:28

west of that. and I had to

59:30

Google it up and it took some

59:33

doing but there is a dump here

59:35

and then I just because I couldn't

59:37

figure out what it would cost and

59:39

how to do it I just looked

59:42

it up on satellite imagery and I

59:44

can't even figure out if it's an

59:46

actual dump it looks more like it's

59:48

a giant warehouse maybe more like a

59:50

transfer station almost looks like you pull

59:53

into the building and dump it there

59:55

and then they maybe load up train

59:57

cars or something with it and get

59:59

it somewhere I don't know, that's something

1:00:02

I still have to figure out.

1:00:04

But anyway, we're very close.

1:00:06

I'm thinking, I'm hoping within two

1:00:08

weeks it is absolute demolition

1:00:11

time. Man, that's exciting. That's

1:00:13

exciting. I mean, it's right here,

1:00:15

isn't it? Exciting is not the

1:00:17

right word. Is there anything that

1:00:19

you're gonna save or salvage or

1:00:21

reuse out of the kitchen, like

1:00:23

hinges or hardware or slides or

1:00:26

anything? It's all garbage. There's no

1:00:28

slides. It's all wood sliding on

1:00:30

wood. So anything underneath a drawer

1:00:32

constantly has sawdust in it. Oh gosh.

1:00:34

The poles are crap. the poles that are

1:00:36

there are the kind that have the standoffs

1:00:39

are inset from the end so these two

1:00:41

little hooks sticking out either end and they

1:00:43

stick so far out from the drawers that

1:00:45

all of my pants have holes in them

1:00:48

from snagging on it and tearing. I have

1:00:50

I've just started yelling at them and I've

1:00:52

told Katie I'm gonna go find a hammer

1:00:54

and I'm gonna break every one of these

1:00:57

off and I'm She's surprised I haven't

1:00:59

done it yet. So no, I'm

1:01:01

surprised you haven't done it yet.

1:01:03

No, there's nothing nothing to save.

1:01:05

I would rather light it on

1:01:07

fire than ever try to touch

1:01:09

it again. What about the appliances?

1:01:11

Are you purchasing all new appliances

1:01:14

as well? We paid for new

1:01:16

appliances last weekend. Oh, wow. Okay.

1:01:18

combo sale something deal Katie has

1:01:20

been watching it for the last

1:01:22

eight months or something and this

1:01:24

is the lowest price she's seen

1:01:26

on the stuff exact stuff that she

1:01:28

wants so we went and ordered it

1:01:31

man she's got to be excited that's

1:01:33

she is cool that makes one of them

1:01:35

just gonna let it sit in the barn

1:01:37

till y'all are ready or is they gonna

1:01:39

hold it for you yeah I think it's

1:01:41

gonna sit in the barn it's gonna sit

1:01:43

in the barn it's gonna take it a week

1:01:45

or two to a week or two to a week or

1:01:47

two to But turkey season starts next

1:01:50

week and that's all I care about.

1:01:52

We planted hundreds of tulip bulbs

1:01:54

last fall, just hoping they would

1:01:56

come up this year. We didn't

1:01:58

know if we were... It was in a

1:02:00

flower in a flower we we made

1:02:02

out the land and the the tulips are

1:02:04

up everywhere. We probably have 30

1:02:06

of them sitting on our counter

1:02:08

right now that we now that we

1:02:10

brought in here. in here. That's favorite favorite

1:02:12

went out there, when I was

1:02:14

out there mowing, I saw this

1:02:16

color in the in the distance I was

1:02:19

like, like, is this trash from the

1:02:21

construction project, you know, next door

1:02:23

to us? What is this? is

1:02:25

as I got as I I'm like,

1:02:27

oh, the tulips are up, are up, red

1:02:29

and white white and pink and just

1:02:31

all kinds of colors everywhere. Yeah, we're

1:02:33

We're not quite there yet. We have

1:02:35

daffodils but not the tulips just

1:02:37

yet. tulips It would probably just be

1:02:39

a couple of weeks then, right

1:02:41

after the daffodils. a couple all right,

1:02:43

guys, hey, this has been another

1:02:45

good episode, hey, this has been Next week

1:02:47

is our Episode 299, show. I can't

1:02:49

believe it. Crazy. show. I So that'll

1:02:51

be fun. So Until then, take

1:02:53

it easy it we will see you

1:02:55

next week. week. See you. See you guys.