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Nicole Graev Lipson is the author of Mothers and Other Fictional Characters, which is a memoir written in essay form.

Each essay in the book provides insight into her experience inl the many roles that she, and other women often feel pressure to play.  With a goal of going beyond the ready made stories of womanhood, she has managed to provide a very revealing and affirming picture of the woman she has become today-as well as who she is still becoming.  I was particularly drawn to her essay about her IVF journey, "Very Nice Blastocysts," which is all about her struggle to determine what to do with her three frozen embryos left over from a successful round of IVF.  

I invited Nicole on to have one of my favorite types of conversations, a both/and one.  To talk about her views on life, how her experience has impacted those views, and why it’s important to have these conversations with each other.  

Mentioned in this episode:

Nicole Graev Lipson

Lidia Yuknavitch "Chronology of Water"

Gwendolyn Brooks "the mother"

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