The Panthers-Lightning series has gotten violent

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Hey Canadians and Americans and what

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everybody it is Tuesday April 29th

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in the United States and Canada

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your game my name is David

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bean I sit beside Pete Blackburn

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and across the room is Sean

1:01

to pause Hello Sean congratulations on

1:03

the the election my I

1:06

was I did look I was very involved

1:08

in the Canadian elections and by involved

1:10

them in watching it closely They have a

1:12

multi -party system if you don't know a

1:14

lot of very interesting parties when you

1:16

go down the ticket including one just

1:18

called the marijuana party Yeah, that being

1:20

your whole platform Absolutely go

1:23

for it. We've never been invited to

1:25

a marijuana party Y 'all we've held

1:27

our own marijuana. Yeah, we have famously

1:29

in Detroit the best marijuana party. Shout out.

1:31

Yes, Detroit Oh, while

1:33

watching a taskmaster while

1:36

watching Taskmaster shout out who

1:38

were who's the on there?

1:40

There was a Lucy

1:42

there's two Lucy's wasn't there or there was no

1:44

there was Lucy. There was two I was

1:46

Susan. There was two Susan's. Yeah. Yeah.

1:48

Sue something in that there was

1:50

two Perkins. Yeah. Perkins. But who's like

1:52

the Sam Campbell. Sam Campbell. And

1:54

then there was the older gay man.

1:57

Oh, that guy, Julian, Julian.

2:00

Yes. Yeah. Just like the

2:02

sassiest bitch I've ever seen in my life.

2:04

One of the best show seasons of television.

2:06

I would put up strong recommend. Yeah. Is

2:08

that season seven or 17? It's one of

2:11

the two. One of the two is a

2:13

seven involved. Yeah. Okay. 17 Pete. Give the

2:15

folks the noise. Pete, how are you doing? Oh,

2:17

I'm doing great. I'm doing great. I

2:20

got my gunner's jersey on Arsenal

2:22

at big champions league semifinal match today.

2:24

So shout out to the boys. Alright

2:27

give him the news

2:29

Today we've got

2:31

news Including politics. We're talking

2:33

shop today on what chaos

2:35

the Canadian election was yesterday

2:38

and stuff happened votes were

2:40

cast ballots were Balloted so

2:42

we'll talk about that and

2:44

we've got crazy ass, Florida.

2:46

I assume that that's

2:48

just a general encapsulation

2:50

of the battle of

2:52

Florida which has been

2:54

unbelievable crazy Yesterday's

2:57

game was outrageous. One of the funniest

2:59

games of the season. We'll talk about

3:01

that. Paul Bisonette is going to

3:03

join the show. You know him as the legend

3:05

on the TNT panel. Maybe the guy

3:07

in the commercial. Maybe just the guy who beats up

3:09

people in restaurants. He's a legend who

3:12

transcends hockey at this point. So he's going

3:14

to join the show. And then finally, Avstonk

3:16

is cheap because they are

3:18

the first team in the

3:21

Western Conference to face elimination. Crazy.

3:25

Yeah. All the, the West

3:27

doing the same thing, two, two, all

3:29

the East doing the same thing,

3:31

three, one. And now finally, we

3:33

got the abs on the brink, which is kind

3:35

of crazy because it all fits in this big

3:37

theme, something that I've wanted to hit for

3:40

like a week now, which is no

3:42

clue who's going to win the Stanley

3:44

Cup this year. It is, there's so

3:46

much more uncertainty than there has ever

3:48

been at this point in recent years.

3:50

So we will discuss that with the

3:52

great Paul Bissonette quickly, just to make.

3:54

Good on the rundown. We'll do one

3:56

second on politics. Sean, crazy

3:59

choke job by the conservative

4:01

party. Yeah, big time. Shout

4:03

out. Justin Trujoe

4:05

for getting the fuck out of the way.

4:08

American American liberals could have learned that lesson

4:10

a little sooner. And

4:13

shout out. Donald Trump for talking his

4:15

shit and just handing the Liberals

4:17

an election in Canada. Trump chunked it

4:20

so bad that he lost the

4:22

conservatives an election in a different country.

4:25

Yes. Like Trump, just by being

4:27

Trump, Canada was like, we can't

4:29

elect this guy who's got kind

4:31

of one or two things in

4:33

common with Trump. Pete, I think that

4:35

you actually would quite like if

4:37

America went to the system that Canada

4:39

has, which is where the parties

4:41

are very cleanly labeled like liberal. conservative

4:44

marijuana this that for the

4:46

most part I mean you have

4:48

like the the NDP the

4:50

new Democratic Party that it was very

4:52

interesting what watching by far the

4:55

most fascinating part the watching the coverage

4:57

of the Canadian election and I'm talking

4:59

about how interesting it was that this

5:01

turned into a two -party election of

5:03

like we've been doing that for for

5:05

centuries yes two parties but like the

5:07

NDP didn't really show up Um,

5:10

it was very interesting. I was watching

5:12

how in some places the liberals

5:14

attacked NDP, uh, uh, incumbents and

5:16

instead of winning those seats, it just

5:18

split the vote and then conservatives

5:21

started winning traditionally liberal seats. Very

5:23

fascinating how, uh, multi -party system, multi -party

5:25

system of government works. Because it's

5:27

cleaner. It cuts out all of the

5:29

nonsense. It's, I mean, it's In

5:31

some ways it's more complicated in other ways,

5:34

but it allows People that I actually

5:36

have their views represented instead of having to

5:38

just kind of drift towards the middle

5:40

like our hour like it the liberals kind

5:42

of have to be a little more

5:44

Progressive because you have the NDP that pushes

5:46

that platform for farther and Same on the

5:48

other end of the spectrum. It's

5:50

just Much I'm not gonna say it's

5:52

perfect, but it's much closer to how

5:54

elections in a free democratic government

5:57

should Operate my opinion right like I think

5:59

I'm probably technically independent, but I am a begrudging

6:02

Democrat. Like I vote Democrat and I'm

6:04

usually upset with Democrats. And I think

6:06

that in Canada, you can kind of

6:08

pick your lane a little easier. Yes.

6:10

Yes. Okay. The Panthers take a three

6:12

one lead. Pete is crawling out of

6:14

his skin. The Panthers take a three

6:17

one lead in the battle of Florida.

6:19

And this one had everything folks. And

6:21

by everything, I mean more hits. We

6:23

don't do a hit chat, but It's

6:25

tough not to do it because this

6:27

is becoming a theme of this whole

6:29

thing. Aaron Eckblad in the second period

6:31

of forearm to Brandon Hagel's chin in

6:33

the second period is not called. And

6:35

that is stunning to me, but no

6:38

hit chat, not beating the steroid allegations.

6:40

This guy returned from a steroid suspension

6:42

and now is doing this phone hearing

6:44

for him. We'll discuss that in a

6:46

minute while trying to dance around the

6:48

hit chat stuff. But the big part

6:50

of all that is that the, the

6:52

lightning we're trailing. at this point, they

6:54

were trailing one, nothing. And they responded

6:56

to this non -call with two goals

6:58

and 11 seconds. And the reaction from

7:01

John Cooper was the best thing we've

7:03

seen on a bench this side of

7:05

Jim Montgomery in the second round last

7:07

year. not true, because Craig Barubi yelling

7:09

at Mark Savard after the Maple Leaf

7:11

scored a goal in the beginning of

7:13

the series was so funny. Yes. But

7:15

I don't think we ever talked about

7:17

that on the show, but it was

7:19

so funny. But not. I mean, not

7:22

as it's. the, it's the best since

7:24

though, the Montgomery thing. Cause the Montgomery

7:26

thing last year smokes that and even

7:28

this, the Montgomery thing was like borderline

7:30

problematic. That was this year. Do you

7:32

remember what I'm talking about? The punching

7:34

Brad Marchand. No. Okay. No, I said

7:36

in the second round last year. Oh,

7:38

no, I don't remember them. What was

7:40

it? He was like doing this. Oh,

7:43

yeah. That was when you did the

7:45

soldier boy video. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's

7:47

right. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

7:49

That's the most demonstrative coach thing since

7:51

then, for sure. The best. Give it

7:53

to me, Sean. That bench

7:55

is fired up led by

7:57

the 57 year old coach. Back

8:09

to politics chat. He was on his

8:11

Howard Dean shit To me it was this

8:13

is a wrestling reference a little Stone

8:15

Cold Steve Austin a little Ralph snake head

8:17

shake there that I really liked it

8:19

was very very I called it bratty on

8:21

Twitter It's like just a whole lot

8:23

of sass in the head shake and I

8:25

liked it Cooper doesn't usually do that

8:27

either. He's usually very composed. Yeah, so that

8:29

was I was fired up.

8:32

I was absolutely fired up. I think

8:34

he had every right to be pissed

8:36

over the Ekblad thing. The response from

8:38

his team was unbelievable. And seeing that

8:40

kind of emotion out of him, I

8:42

loved it. Obviously didn't. I also don't

8:44

blame him. He's 27 minutes away from

8:46

tying the series and going back home.

8:48

Like he should be super excited. That

8:50

should rock. But instead, third

8:52

period, Aaron Ekblad has a goal

8:54

overturned by off sides and

8:57

then follows that up by scoring

8:59

for real. Like 10 minutes

9:01

later, Araneckblad not there for his

9:03

offense. He's there more for

9:05

his steroid use and for his

9:07

forearms to the chins of

9:09

unsuspecting players. But he ends up

9:11

getting the game time goal

9:13

and you think, wow, this, this

9:15

could not get wilder until

9:17

Seth Jones scored 11 seconds later

9:19

twice. two occurrences of

9:21

two goals in 11 seconds in

9:23

this game, one for each team,

9:25

and the latter ends up giving

9:27

Florida a victory and a three

9:30

to one series lead. So

9:32

Florida, we said yesterday, come

9:34

on, you Florida teams,

9:36

give us something that we're not

9:38

getting in the Eastern Conference, which

9:40

is a two, two series. Give

9:42

us something where we can say,

9:44

all right. It's anyone's ballgame and

9:46

instead another one another three one

9:48

series in the Florida Panthers the

9:50

defending Stanley Cup champions now with

9:52

their foot on the throat of

9:54

Tampa Bay going back to Tampa

9:56

Bay where they have already won

9:58

two games. Yeah. I'm I'm a

10:00

little I don't want to say

10:02

like nervous because I don't I'm

10:04

not really invested in the outcome

10:06

of the series. But I would

10:08

like to see it go pretty

10:10

deep. Unfortunately Florida just looks Florida

10:12

looks awesome. Florida looks awesome and

10:14

Tampa has had too many breakdowns

10:16

like obviously Florida plays a good

10:18

defensive game. But like Tampa was

10:20

the best offensive team in the league

10:22

during this regular season. And they really

10:24

haven't haven't really broken out offensively. And

10:26

if you have a couple defensive breakdowns over

10:29

the course of 60 minutes, you're going

10:31

to lose to the Panthers. And. Panthers just

10:33

look really good at this point. And

10:35

I'm nervous that they're going to kind of

10:37

coast. How do we feel about Seth

10:39

Jones making an impact, an offensive impact in

10:42

the postseason? I love it so much.

10:44

I've been saying for years, like over

10:46

a year, get Seth Jones back to

10:48

the playoffs. He'll log a bunch of minutes.

10:50

Maybe he'll give you a little something.

10:52

And he does it last night. And it

10:54

was so wild after the game watching

10:56

the like on bench interview. They're like, let's

10:58

go down to Emily Kaplan with Seth

11:01

Jones. And I'm like, I never

11:03

thought I would see something like this again.

11:05

I did have a, like when I,

11:07

when they threw to the interview afterwards, I

11:09

was like, huh. Yeah.

11:11

Seth Jones. Seth Jones.

11:13

I mean, Seth Jones kind of been killing

11:15

it so far this post season. Cause he's

11:17

been really good defensively too. So shout out

11:19

to the Panthers. Drs. Mackin says

11:22

the Seth Jones story just goes to show

11:24

you complain enough. You can get yourself to

11:26

a good team. Shout out, Jimmy Butler. Shout

11:28

out Jimmy. You see Tyler hero yesterday. He

11:30

was like, I know that I need Jimmy.

11:32

We would be in this series if we

11:34

had Jimmy. I was like, why is Tyler

11:36

hero underperforming? Who's

11:38

to say that? He'd are at least the

11:40

Jimmy clip from yesterday was so good.

11:43

I'm a bitch and a bum. I love

11:45

right in his fucking ear. And like

11:47

respect to Dylan Brooks, because Dylan Brooks kind

11:49

of like was there for it. And

11:51

I know that's what Dylan Brooks is basically

11:53

can't stand all he can do. And

11:55

I can't stand him either. But seeing those

11:58

two go face to face and just

12:00

talk their shit was awesome. Let's do a

12:02

little recap game to Brandon Hagel with

12:04

the hit on Sasha Barkov got suspended a

12:06

game for that game three, Matthew Kachuk

12:08

hit on Jake Gensel, no suspension, then game

12:10

for Aaron Eckblad on Hagel, no hit

12:13

chat. The Eckblad thing, I think was pretty

12:15

egregious and pretty obvious. And at this

12:17

point, given what has happened to throughout the

12:19

series, when that happens, you're like, you

12:21

knew what you were doing. That was planned.

12:24

He should get something. He's getting

12:26

a phone hearing. He should get

12:28

suspended. I would think

12:30

yes. Yeah, I better. I

12:32

mean, would you say that this was the

12:34

worst of the three? I think so. I

12:36

think so. I think it's the clearest like

12:38

you knew what you were doing. I thought

12:41

that Hagel on Barkov was some bullshit. Definitely.

12:43

But I also think we're kind of protective

12:45

of our stars and those were at least

12:47

like hits. I think five. five in a

12:49

game would have been fine for Hegel on

12:51

Barkov. If we said this at the time,

12:53

like if it was anybody else other than

12:55

Barkov, I think that's just what it would

12:57

have been. But the

12:59

eggplant is a suspension every

13:01

damn day. You asked a

13:03

good question. Does the

13:06

steroid, does the PED suspension

13:08

make him a repeat offender? I

13:10

mean, I don't, I don't

13:12

think so because it doesn't fall

13:14

into like the same realm

13:16

of infraction, but. You

13:18

made a good point. It was very

13:20

PED behavior. It kind of should be.

13:22

It can be Looks like he's Royd

13:24

Rageon. You can have like the connecting

13:26

the dots here. This man has Royd

13:28

Rage and is just trying to take

13:30

off guys heads. How sick would it

13:32

be if the video was like to

13:34

recap? Hegel was

13:36

in a defenseless position. Ekblad

13:41

took three steps. Ekblad.

13:44

has used drugs. It

13:47

was just like all these things. That

13:49

would rock. Let me ask you

13:51

this. Would you... What

13:53

was I going to ask? Fuck me. I forgot what I

13:55

was going ask. Go ahead. That's okay. was a good question. I

13:58

forgot what I was going to ask. I just wanted to

14:00

say, I think you should be suspended three games and you

14:02

should not see this series again. It's

14:04

just got to stop. Well,

14:06

A, I mean, it's just like this

14:09

is clear. This series clearly keeps like

14:11

ramping up and up. B. That was

14:13

like one of the most egregious, like

14:15

it's worse than a punch to the

14:17

head. It was an elbow to somebody's

14:19

face. Like

14:21

clear as day, cocked back, like

14:23

Flager 2. Very

14:25

true, very true. I do remember

14:27

what I wanted to ask. How did

14:29

you feel about the crowd cheering

14:31

once they realized it was Brandon Hagel?

14:34

This goes back to the Travis

14:36

Green. Like there's no

14:38

reason to panic thing. There is a reason

14:40

to panic. It's just not, you're just choosing

14:42

not to panic, which is good behavior. I

14:45

understand why they cheer more when

14:47

they see that it's Brandon Hagel.

14:49

I don't agree with it, but

14:51

I understand why. They're doing it

14:53

because Hagel did something bad to

14:55

their guy and they're mad. It

14:58

makes sense. Yeah. And I hope Brandon Hagel.

15:00

don't support it, but it makes sense. I

15:02

hope Brandon Hagel is okay. Don't

15:04

root for injuries. But I

15:06

completely understand why the Florida crowd did

15:08

it. And as a neutral spectator,

15:10

I enjoy the hate that the series

15:12

is injecting into itself. Do we

15:14

get much more of this thing into

15:16

itself? Yes. This is a series

15:18

that was always going to be about

15:21

injections. Series

15:23

is now three to one. It

15:25

goes back to Tampa. Two of the last

15:27

three are in Tampa in Florida has had

15:29

zero problem winning games there. They won the

15:31

first two games of the series and Emily

15:33

Arena is the series over. I

15:35

wouldn't say it's over, but

15:37

it's very difficult to win three

15:39

games in a row against

15:41

the Florida Panthers. The

15:43

fair, fair response. But,

15:46

uh, yeah, never mind. I just

15:48

rescind that take then. Yeah. I

15:50

know it just got on me too. Cause

15:52

I was like, it's like Florida's going to

15:54

win the series, but, and then as you

15:56

were thinking of it, like I was kind

15:58

of finishing your thought and was like, Oh

16:00

no, no, no. Yeah, you can win three

16:02

games against these guys to be fair. Yeah,

16:04

you can win three in a row, but

16:06

only one team in the last two years

16:08

has won four in seven against this team.

16:10

Right. But a good point. Yeah,

16:13

that's true. But Vassie has to

16:15

like kind of steal games, I

16:17

think. And Matthew Kachuk was playing

16:19

with like an empty body. in

16:21

the series that they lost. Yeah.

16:23

Also true. So that made that

16:26

that's further ammunition for you. Tampa

16:28

power plays got to get going

16:30

in Vasilevsky has to be, has

16:32

to be dominant. Although Sean noted

16:34

yesterday, we're getting right around that

16:36

sweet spot where Bob starts to

16:38

suck. But does game seven

16:41

last year give you like a, is

16:43

that like an every dog has his

16:45

day thing? Or is it if you

16:47

don't know the circuit of Brodsky very

16:49

good in the beginning of series and

16:51

then Don Drake like

16:53

like Don Draper only likes the beginning

16:55

of things and then just gets

16:57

worse as it goes on. So I

16:59

think Tampa has a chance. I

17:01

think that Tampa wins one at home.

17:03

They just got to go to

17:05

sunrise, do a job and drag them

17:07

back to Tampa. Then bingo,

17:09

bingo, bongo. You got a game seven.

17:11

This is the series that I

17:13

have the most faith in in the

17:15

Eastern Conference going somewhere. Can we

17:18

at least say that like going seven

17:20

going somewhere? I mean,

17:22

I don't exactly know what you mean

17:24

by that to be honest. Like I

17:26

Montreal, I think in win Montreal, I

17:28

think can extend their series. I don't

17:30

think that Ottawa is going to to

17:32

push the Leafs into any sort of

17:34

situation. I don't think the Devils are

17:36

going to push the Hurricanes in any

17:38

sort of situation. So I think that

17:41

this is the best chance of a

17:43

series going six or seven games. The

17:45

only way that I would I agree

17:47

like these are the closest match up

17:49

in terms of talent. Uh,

17:51

but the only reason that I

17:53

would disagree is if, if Montreal

17:55

gets the next one, I feel

17:57

like they're probably going to win

17:59

at home in a game six.

18:01

Yeah. And then you're getting the

18:03

game seven. So I was, wait,

18:05

which other one did I say

18:07

had a chance that it was

18:09

that one? Yeah. Cause I said

18:11

that yesterday is like Montreal not

18:13

dead. I think probably the best

18:15

chance to extend the series more

18:17

is Tampa, but Montreal not dead.

18:21

Mean Devils we're gonna get to this later. I

18:23

don't know. I could check off I think

18:25

He's a little bit of a wrinkle and I

18:27

mean we can do that right now Frederick

18:29

Anderson is out for game five against the Devils

18:31

It's gonna be pure to check off. We

18:33

saw him last game Had his could check off

18:35

moments. This is what I have always wanted

18:38

from the Carolina Hurricanes. I want if they're gonna

18:40

win a cup I want it to be

18:42

with could check off raising it and like Throwing

18:44

it against the glass or something and doing

18:46

something ridiculous because that's just like that's just how

18:48

I like my goalies Do you think the

18:50

devils have a chance of getting back in the

18:52

series now that checkouts between the pipes? I'm

18:55

not gonna say no No, they

18:58

don't I mean, I probably don't I think

19:00

they could on paper to get back into the

19:02

series because I mean if you win this

19:04

game or you're Down a game like it's three

19:06

two. I think I would consider that a

19:08

series, but I don't at no point even if

19:10

they make you four seven. I'm not gonna Seriously

19:13

consider them like it was I honestly

19:15

like the Panthers Oilers last year were at

19:17

no point Did I seriously? Did

19:19

I take the oiler seriously once they were

19:22

down 3 -0 until it got to game 7?

19:24

Devils lineup is so thin though like they're

19:26

gonna have to have Like a

19:28

couple players absolutely dominate the series.

19:30

I think to get it to go

19:32

to the distance Let's jump over

19:34

to the Western Conference where the Dallas

19:36

stars are one win away six

19:38

to win in game five up three

19:40

two first team in the West

19:42

to win three games They scored nine

19:44

seconds in and took a three

19:47

three nothing lead Alvalanche got back in

19:49

it for a minute, but Ultimately

19:51

stars do it. They're now up three

19:53

games to two and I don't

19:55

want to say is this over because

19:57

it's definitely not. But I did

19:59

not. I don't know.

20:01

I was the one that was begging for this to

20:03

be a series and said it can go. It

20:06

can go to six, let's say

20:08

it going to six this way is

20:10

shocking me. Yeah, I mean, I

20:12

think we definitely owe the stars an

20:14

apology or I guess like acknowledge

20:16

that we were super low on them

20:18

as a lot of people were.

20:20

But like there was so much reason

20:22

to be their assholes over the

20:24

final three weeks of the season. They

20:27

were heading into series against the

20:29

Colorado Avalanche without Miro Hayskin and without

20:31

Jason Robertson. So like respect where

20:33

respect is due. They've still like been

20:35

surprisingly awesome, even though we kind

20:37

of knew they had it in them.

20:39

I did not expect it to

20:41

look like this. I definitely wouldn't say

20:43

this series is over, especially when

20:45

you consider the Dallas is probably like

20:47

the biggest mystery box in the

20:49

playoffs on any given night. They take

20:52

games off more than any other

20:54

team. And then they can absolutely flip

20:56

the switch back in the next

20:58

game. You're shaking your head.

21:00

Are you thinking? Well, there's one

21:02

team that that doesn't get applied

21:04

to any NHL conversation because they

21:06

are in their own league of

21:08

stupidity. So. But like

21:10

I understand that like non

21:12

Oilers category. These stars are

21:15

the most. Where is

21:17

anybody going for you guys right

21:19

now other than like one or two

21:21

players team in the NHL? Yeah,

21:23

I mean like the Oilers the way

21:26

that the Oilers played in the series

21:28

has been less surprising than the way

21:30

that the stars have played I would

21:32

say I think so too and the

21:34

stars by the way not that they

21:36

are doing this but if they do

21:38

any sort of like receipt pulling horrible

21:41

behavior you lost seven in a row

21:43

you were very injured you It

21:45

was okay that everybody doubted you. Right.

21:48

The way that I put it yesterday was that

21:50

like the stars convinced me to not believe in

21:52

the stars. Yeah. That's typically how

21:54

it goes. Whenever people say like, Oh, we're

21:56

keeping receipts on this. If someone says,

21:58

Hey, your team is banged up or your

22:00

team isn't playing well, it's cause your

22:02

team is banged up and not playing well.

22:04

I did not leave the stars for

22:06

dead. Some did, but I. Thought that they

22:08

could make this a series. They also,

22:10

I think you got some very, very encouraging

22:12

signs based off of like Wyatt Johnson

22:14

and Miko Ranton and kind of had their

22:16

breakthroughs. McKinnon hates

22:18

Charlie Coyle. Apparently you have

22:21

that video. This

22:23

this video is very, very funny. And I

22:25

know that players go at each other

22:27

on the bench quite a bit. And like,

22:29

I wouldn't read too much into it. But

22:31

just look at how much Nathan McKinnon

22:33

seems to hate Charlie Coyle in this moment

22:35

is very funny. The

22:38

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of the IC. Moj, I know it's easy

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from up here and the players obviously have.

23:00

He's so mad. smile is so

23:02

fucking. It was just like getting yelled

23:04

at by arguably like a second best

23:06

player in the league. And then just

23:08

being like, oh, we're good. I think

23:10

Charlie was like, yeah, I know my

23:13

bad. We'll move on. We're going to

23:15

be good. And like 10, 10, 15

23:17

seconds later, McKinnon is still like, no,

23:19

fuck you. He's so mad.

23:21

McKinnon's his own thing. He is.

23:23

He is absolutely his own

23:25

thing. What did the avalanche lose

23:27

in the first round? What

23:29

if they lose in the first

23:31

round? This is a team

23:33

that very much so reshuffled their

23:35

roster and they changed up

23:37

their goal tending. I said last

23:39

night, welcome back Yorgyev on

23:41

that pop fly that went off

23:43

of the back of Mackenzie

23:45

Blackwood. Ugh. Not a

23:47

great moment, but not only that they

23:50

invested so much at the deadline trading

23:52

not only for Charlie Coyle but for

23:54

Brock Nelson and The good news will

23:56

be if they lose in the first

23:58

round Brock Nelson didn't cost as much

24:00

because some of the return Involved conditional

24:02

picks based on them winning the Stanley

24:04

Cup if they lose in the first

24:06

round They will not have won the

24:08

Stanley Cup, but they still will have

24:10

traded Callum Richie and a conditional first

24:13

round pick away for potentially Like a

24:15

month or two of Brock Nelson Yeah.

24:17

I mean, it's going to sting if

24:19

that happens, but like at them's the

24:21

brakes, honestly, like I don't, I'm not

24:23

going to shift like the way that

24:25

I viewed what the avalanche did just

24:27

based off the fact that, you know,

24:29

maybe they lose in the first round.

24:31

I think ultimately my takeaway is one

24:33

really good team was leaving this first

24:36

round in this matchup regardless. I

24:38

think the consequences of Dallas

24:40

losing the first round probably

24:42

would have been worse or

24:44

more severe. Then Colorado,

24:46

like I think Pete DeBork potentially gets

24:48

fired if Dallas loses in the first

24:50

round there, based off the way that

24:52

the season ended. And like, yeah, maybe

24:54

you have the built in Miro and

24:56

Jason Robertson excuse, but I don't know.

24:58

Like I would, I would maybe consider

25:01

it if I was Dallas. That's a

25:03

good question. Who can afford to lose

25:05

this series less? I think

25:07

that Colorado can get out of

25:09

it saying, you know, At least we

25:11

solved the Ranton situation and we

25:13

figured that out and we got our

25:15

I'd say long -term replacement But I

25:17

believe Netshass is only signed for

25:19

one more year after this at which

25:21

point they're gonna have to pay

25:23

him and he's probably gonna have huge

25:25

numbers with Nathan McKinnon, but I

25:27

Think I would I think I lean

25:29

it's worse for Colorado to lose

25:31

like I can wrap my head around

25:33

they lost Hayskin in and Things

25:35

just didn't work out, but it's all

25:37

right. They've got ran and signed

25:39

up for all this time. And you

25:41

know, the future begins next year. Colorado,

25:46

making that Nelson trade was such

25:48

a risk. And it's one

25:50

that I, no, I wouldn't

25:52

have taken that risk. I would have just

25:54

traded for a different center and spent less. Yeah.

25:57

mean, I think that that's a fair

25:59

takeaway, especially when hindsight's 2020 and you can

26:01

look back on them losing. I mean,

26:03

like at the end of the day, I

26:05

just I will not hold it against

26:07

Colorado for going for it and paying like

26:09

an exorbitant price for a player that

26:11

they wanted and identified as the guy that

26:13

maybe puts them over the top. We've

26:15

talked about it so much with, with a

26:17

team like Tampa, who they are very

26:20

okay overpaying and shelling out for the guy

26:22

that they think clicks with their group

26:24

and makes them a true Stanley cup contender.

26:26

And again, it's just like, that's the

26:28

way that it goes sometimes. I did want

26:30

to mention I lean brought up in

26:32

the chat and I sent this in the

26:34

group text last night. Lee and

26:36

Bischel fucking rules. He is awesome.

26:38

He is nasty and a ton

26:40

of fun to watch. He had

26:42

his like real bully moment last

26:44

night, just absolutely taking out guys

26:46

ribs. So shout out, Lee and

26:48

Bischel. I'm a big fan. I

26:50

need to make an admission. The

26:53

stairs that are lit up at

26:55

the stars games. That's grown on me.

26:57

And I'm understanding what they're going

26:59

for now. The whole thing looks like

27:01

a big thing of green. And

27:04

if you are, it fills in the, I

27:06

don't want to say cracks of empty seats,

27:08

just cracks of where there are not people.

27:10

Because everyone there is pretty much wearing green

27:12

already. And then you have a little glow

27:14

of the green kind of bridging the gap.

27:17

Is it Mickey Mouse? Is it

27:19

stupid? Yes. But I think

27:21

it actually looks quite cool. And I

27:23

don't want other teams to do it. I

27:25

want it to just be Dallas's thing.

27:27

But it looks a little better. And I

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27:41

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27:43

Oh, yeah, I think that should look so

27:46

cheap. Outside of the fact that it's

27:48

distracting, like the fact that it's clearly just

27:50

like they strap some lights onto the

27:52

rail. And I wasn't transitioning to an ad

27:54

read. It was part of the ad

27:56

read. It was like, said, it was saying

27:58

like, I mean, yeah, that was the

28:00

transition to the ad read. But I, yeah,

28:02

I think it, I just think it

28:04

was very cheap because it's clearly not built

28:06

into the stadium. So it's not like

28:08

straight. They're kind of like jagged in that.

28:10

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lights real quick. I liked the the

29:59

oh, it's green. Now I get

30:01

it. And oh, you weren't being sarcastic

30:03

about the lights. No, I was

30:05

being sarcastic with my tweet yesterday and

30:07

I felt bad when people were

30:09

responding to it being like, oh, yeah,

30:11

I am noticing that kind of

30:13

neat. Check it out. I've got a

30:15

text out to a source asking

30:17

if the beautiful Korean women will be

30:19

at the Kings game tonight. Have

30:21

not heard back. I know this next

30:23

guest has been all over this

30:25

story. So let's bring in Paul Bissonette

30:27

from Spit and Chiclets and TNT. Biz,

30:30

what's up buddy? Are you hearing anything

30:32

on the harmonicas? I

30:34

got no intel. Can you guys

30:37

hear me though? Yeah, loud

30:39

and clear. Okay,

30:42

so you do have me. All right. Good.

30:44

My microphone wasn't working. So we're going to put

30:46

that to the side. I'm just going to

30:48

use my internal mic. So going a little bit

30:50

old school here on no Intel on the

30:52

hermonica crew guys. I haven't sent any any feelers

30:54

out yet. I just woke up. It's been

30:56

a crazy couple days, but I hope they are

30:58

for the king's sake because they're going to

31:00

need that type of energy coming off that that

31:03

fumble fuck. Okay, it has

31:05

been a crazy couple of days. Absolutely

31:07

understand you've been killing it. So you

31:09

should be very, very tired. We

31:11

have no idea who is winning the

31:13

Stanley cup. Like the abs are on the

31:15

brink of elimination. Vegas is in a

31:17

battle with Minnesota. Edmonton has no showed and

31:19

is still tied stars. Still not healthy

31:21

in the East. You got a bunch of

31:24

teams that are up three one, but

31:26

that seems so wide open. So are you

31:28

with me when I say that there

31:30

is so much more uncertainty at this point

31:32

of the playoffs than there usually is. Yeah,

31:35

I don't usually trust my opinion either.

31:37

And I've been asking like more professionals that

31:39

I trust. And they say the same

31:41

thing, like even going into playoffs, they felt

31:43

like seven to eight teams could win

31:45

it. I asked Rick talk it when we

31:47

had him on the TNT broadcast about

31:49

it. And he's like, no, there's like legit

31:51

seven, eight teams. So it's still very

31:53

much up in the air. And like, I

31:55

just read your, your tweet coming in

31:57

Pete, like. Dallas, like I, after last game,

31:59

I'm like, I'm pretty sure Colorado's Stanley

32:01

Cup champion. And then boom, Dallas goes home

32:04

and then just works them. So my

32:06

opinion has been flip flopping day to day

32:08

based on this insane action, but I

32:10

think we can all agree this has to

32:12

be the best start to the Stanley

32:14

Cup playoffs we've ever seen based on the

32:16

swings and just the chaos, very fitting

32:18

for your show name. as to what chaos

32:20

is happening from game to game. Like

32:22

even like after what happened at the end

32:24

of the Florida game, bang, bang, they

32:26

win it. And then Dallas scored nine seconds

32:28

in. So it's just like every time

32:30

you turn on your television, there's a hockey

32:32

game on like shits going down. It

32:34

is crazy too to say that like this

32:36

is the best or craziest first round

32:38

because all of the series in the Eastern

32:40

conference are three to one, which suggests

32:43

that like those aren't fun series when they

32:45

really are. We've done a lot of

32:47

talk about. You know, who's who's dead in

32:49

the water here? Like, do you look

32:51

at any of these teams already being dead

32:53

of the water? I

32:55

would probably say Ottawa and

32:57

Montreal are dead in the water.

32:59

Um, the way that just

33:02

Florida's built, uh, that

33:04

was such a tough loss for Tampa

33:06

yesterday. I thought they got hosed on a

33:08

few calls and I think that that

33:10

one's over. I think, uh, I think Florida

33:12

is going to put the Anaconda choke

33:14

hold on them. And then, you know what?

33:16

Actually, same thing with New Jersey. It

33:18

sucks with all the injuries they've dealt with.

33:20

I read that Seagant Daller and Pesci

33:22

are now game time decisions for game five

33:24

in Carolina. So I would pretty much

33:26

write off every single team in the East

33:28

that's down 3 -1. And as far as

33:30

out West, definitely not

33:32

writing off Colorado. And

33:36

I would have to put my

33:38

money on Vegas. Right now, I

33:40

think the Vegas odds have are

33:42

giving Minnesota plus 195 on the road

33:44

right now. So I would imagine a lot

33:46

of people are going to hammer that

33:48

for the juice, but I think that Vegas

33:50

has kind of played with fire a

33:52

little bit up until this point. We have

33:55

not seen the best of Jack Eichel

33:57

and that top line, although they did kind

33:59

of come alive in game four or

34:01

game five, excuse, or no, yeah, game four,

34:03

excuse me. So I would, I would

34:05

say Minnesota, it's not looking great, but they've

34:07

proved this wrong all season right like

34:09

they had that incredible start filtered off they

34:11

had the injuries they kind of you

34:13

know stayed afloat and and they've been fighting

34:15

like bastards in these playoffs and it's

34:17

been fun to watch but there's another one

34:19

that uh like they they could easily

34:21

be up three one that four minute minor

34:24

they almost had it killed and I

34:26

feel like like boldy just kind of missed

34:28

it right he just whiffed on it

34:30

and then they ended up getting the keep

34:32

and Next thing, you know, it's tie

34:34

game and OT. So, uh, those would be

34:36

my, my six picks, but more so

34:38

the East guys down three, one, they're toast.

34:41

Every series in the West being two,

34:43

two would make you think, okay, well,

34:45

then some of these teams that I

34:47

didn't expect to be in it might

34:49

have a chance. Are there any of the

34:51

teams that have quote unquote surprised us?

34:53

And in some case, like I say,

34:55

St. Louis, I say Minnesota. Then

34:58

when I have to fucking pick one in

35:00

that Edmonton series, like, are we really going to

35:02

say that LA is the team that has

35:04

shown us something when they have really fucked this

35:06

up so, so badly despite outplaying the Oilers?

35:08

Like, do you look at any of those three

35:10

teams, for example, and say, okay, you know

35:12

what? We add them to the list. If LA

35:15

gets out of the first round, maybe

35:17

they've got something or if St. Louis,

35:19

like, is this 2019 all over again?

35:21

So the one concern I have for

35:23

LA at this point, though, and the

35:25

fact that, like, They're not up three

35:27

or they could have they could have

35:29

swept them like let's look at it

35:31

like that like a horrible challenge. Um,

35:34

especially at the fact that two times

35:36

in the series, uh, games one and

35:38

games three where, um, Edmonton

35:40

had tied the game and then within a

35:42

minute, LA went down and scored like

35:44

to know had one and then more had

35:46

one wet like 10 seconds. Yeah. So

35:48

the fact they call that challenge to me

35:50

is, is insane. Um, there was another

35:53

view that they were pointing out where when

35:55

Kane whacked it at first and when

35:57

he hit his pad, that's what they were

35:59

talking about. But those challenges, man, they

36:01

don't like, they rarely turn those ones back

36:03

like 10, 15 % maybe. And that the

36:05

problem will, I guess with both teams

36:07

is they play their top three lines and

36:09

they're top 40. Like LA like, I

36:11

think that Brant Clark might have played like

36:14

what eight to 10 minutes. In game

36:16

four and then the and I don't even

36:18

know the other kid's name the six

36:20

mom of honor Yeah, had

36:22

like played like three minutes three minutes

36:24

like that's what I was getting when

36:26

I played boys like so you're You're

36:28

just like draining the energy of these

36:30

top three lines and top four D

36:32

where I mean, you know No offense

36:35

to Doughty, but he's also no spring

36:37

chicken either, right? So I feel that

36:39

the mental hurdle for LA will be

36:41

very difficult to get over on after

36:43

a complete choke job on the road

36:45

like I I don't I don't even

36:47

know if the harmonica ladies can bring

36:49

them back to life and also From

36:51

like there was no shock the way

36:53

they handle that over time because You

36:56

can't just change your mind frame all

36:58

of a sudden to slowly they started

37:00

sitting back more and more throughout the

37:02

third. You can't go back to the

37:04

way you were playing in the first two periods. You're

37:06

locked in that mode. And

37:09

for the most part, your legs probably

37:11

aren't working the same way because you've

37:13

just been fucking hanging back the whole

37:15

second half of the game. So I

37:17

don't get like, who

37:19

was there during the TV timeouts? Like, why

37:21

wasn't the coaching staff like, Boys, like we're

37:23

backing up way too much. I get that

37:25

we sit back typically and we try to

37:28

force them with our F1 to the red

37:30

line to get the dump. Boys, we did

37:32

a drill with Dave Tippett with the coyotes

37:34

where we would just say five guys stagnate

37:36

the D zone and the puck carry would

37:38

come in and we would work on our

37:40

D zone. It felt like Hiller went in

37:42

like between the second third and said, Hey

37:44

boys, we're going to work on our five

37:46

on five D zone this period. Like that's

37:48

what it looked like. I couldn't believe my

37:50

eyes at the fact that they had three

37:52

guys forwards on the blue. And then 2D

37:54

at the tops of the circles, allowing them

37:56

free zone entries. Like it was an amateur

37:58

hour, like masterclass. So do you look at

38:00

it as like a, like a strategy or

38:02

sort of like system thing that they're, they're

38:04

back on their heels or are like, they

38:06

literally could just be running out of energy

38:08

because they have such a short bench too.

38:12

Yeah. But if you work as a

38:14

five man unit, you could at least

38:16

just get them to like, to like

38:19

dump it into where they're not getting

38:21

a clean zone entry with possession. your

38:23

defenseman can still go back and like

38:25

make hard rims. And then at least

38:27

you're trying a 50 -50 battle on the

38:29

wall where, yeah, sometimes they're going to

38:31

keep it in, but at least you're

38:33

like, you're creating these 50 -50 battles

38:36

as opposed to just allowing them like

38:38

zone entry. Like 113 shot attempts, boys.

38:40

Like you're playing with fire. So I

38:42

don't understand why he was so defensive

38:44

at the podium where it's like crazy. You're

38:47

like, you did not expect us to

38:49

ask that question? Were you not? Watching the

38:51

same game that we were like I

38:53

have all the respect in the world for

38:55

the guy I think they had an

38:57

incredible season along with incredible goal tending but

38:59

I mean Darcy Kemper like what else

39:01

do you expect the guy to do you're

39:03

just playing with fire way too much

39:06

in that situation where we asked Leon after

39:08

the game about their strategy there and

39:10

he kind of rolled his eyes and he's

39:12

like wow they always hang back and

39:14

that's to begin with in a neutral zone

39:16

sense they weren't even in the neutral

39:18

zone they were in their defensive zone So

39:20

I don't know what's going to happen

39:22

in game five. I hope they come out

39:24

and play like they did the first

39:26

two periods in basically every single game that

39:28

they played against them this series. But

39:31

that is a They might have to

39:33

take an ayahuasca trip to get aware

39:35

of that experience. You mean to tell

39:37

me that Leon Drysaddle rolled his eyes?

39:39

I'm not believing this. This does not

39:41

sound like something that he would do.

39:43

These coaches though, dude, like these coaches

39:45

are having an asshole off. And if

39:47

I'm Chris Knoblock right now, I am

39:49

thanking the hockey gods that Jim Hiller

39:51

is doing, whatever he's doing, because we

39:54

should have a thousand questions. For Chris

39:56

Knoblock like if they are wearing themselves

39:58

down and biz I'll give you this

40:00

these numbers last game Kings had eight

40:02

forwards with over 24 minutes Oilers had

40:04

two forwards with over 24 minutes. You

40:06

know what their names are Kings had

40:08

four defensemen with 30 minutes Oilers had

40:10

one defenseman Evan Bouchard with 30 minutes

40:12

So even if I said this yesterday,

40:14

even if the Kings get through this

40:16

round there, they're like already at the

40:18

point Halfway through a round where you

40:20

say, boy, that last round really, uh,

40:22

tuckered them out and they're not even

40:25

through the round. So they're putting themselves

40:27

in trouble there to Chris Knoblock. I

40:29

say fucking play Jeff Skinner. So you

40:31

can have more guys who could beat

40:33

them when they are sitting back and

40:35

are absolutely all exhausted. Okay,

40:37

so great point, like advantage Edmonton

40:39

going to the next round as

40:41

far as not being as beat,

40:44

like tired. Also like dry

40:46

saddle and McDavid did get some time

40:48

off due to injuries at the end

40:50

of the year. So they're probably okay

40:52

getting that type of a high amount

40:54

of ice time, but why'd you say

40:56

they're having an asshole off? Like what

40:58

has bothered you about Knoblock? Like I

41:00

felt like, like he was. I felt

41:02

he was pretty reasonable about them shooting

41:04

themselves in the foot in the first

41:06

two games, but you mean by playing

41:08

Picard back -to -back games? I was so

41:10

fucking mad about him going back to

41:12

picks in game four. I'm not. I'm

41:14

not. I was going, look, look, I

41:16

was going to Picard in game five

41:18

either way. I was going to go,

41:20

I was going to go Picard game

41:22

three, Stu game four, because Picard

41:24

stinks in back -to -back games. And then

41:26

on the road, do not put Skinner

41:28

back on the road. Go with Pickard

41:30

in game. All right. All right. As

41:32

long as you agree on that. Right.

41:35

But when he fucking allowed and you

41:37

talked about relinquishing a lead right

41:39

after they scored in game three after

41:41

Connor Brown tied the game and

41:43

Trevor Moore had a sort of partial

41:45

break with one hand because he's

41:47

got, I think, Walman all over him

41:49

and he's got no control over

41:51

the puck. Did Pickard think that he

41:53

was going to like fucking deke

41:55

him or something? He has his five

41:57

hole wide open. All more can

42:00

do is shovel the puck forward and

42:02

he fucking lets it in. So

42:04

I was, I was furious to stick

42:06

with him then and he gives

42:08

up another bad five hole goal in

42:10

the beginning of game four. I

42:12

was like, fuck me. None of these

42:14

goalies can, can make a save,

42:16

but Skinner at least can be a

42:18

big fat idiot and be in

42:20

front of a puck. So I was,

42:22

I was, you have to deal

42:24

with these therapy sessions a lot. Every

42:26

day. Dude, I was going to

42:29

say you too should. So you two

42:31

should have a podcast and me

42:33

and which should have a podcast and

42:35

you two should have a podcast

42:37

with an Oilers guy podcast. Yeah. Now

42:39

do a little wife swap AP. 100 %

42:41

let's do it. I do. I mean,

42:44

I do have to add the knob

42:46

lock thing. I thought you were going

42:48

to more going to say like. How

42:50

many fucking line combinations can a coach

42:52

throw out there over the course of

42:54

a seven game series? Cause he's gotta

42:56

be hitting like triple digits at this

42:58

point. It's unbelievable. And the, like

43:00

the point at which he throws his,

43:02

his lines into a blender is like

43:04

40 seconds into the game. Somehow you've,

43:07

you've already seen 12 different line combinations

43:09

in the first minute of a game.

43:11

It's unbelievable. I thought that's where you're

43:13

going. At some point that we

43:15

do, we, we do have to talk

43:17

about your. your goddamn beloved Toronto Maple

43:19

Leafs. Okay, sure. Yeah. All right. I

43:21

will start. I will start the conversation

43:24

like this. You have

43:26

a good sense of humor. You

43:28

have to admit it would

43:30

be fucking hilarious. Like it would

43:32

be the funniest possible outcome

43:34

if the Leafs lost in seven

43:36

here. I'd probably delete

43:38

my apps for about three, four days

43:41

if that happened. That's

43:43

probably the result of the

43:45

Leafs blowing a three -nothing series

43:47

lead. I don't think it's going

43:49

to happen. I think they're going to win game five. I

43:52

think that my arsehole will be puckered

43:54

up about this tight if it even

43:56

goes to six, because you probably feel

43:58

the seeded out creep in a little

44:00

bit. But I just feel like I

44:02

actually feel like we haven't seen Toronto's

44:04

best other than really in game one.

44:06

I felt like that's where they were

44:08

really clicking power play look good. Contributions

44:11

from the back end, which have been a

44:13

very big bright spot for the Leaf so

44:15

far in this series, but Ottawa's

44:17

fought hard like games, games two

44:19

and three, like I felt for the

44:22

first 40, like 40 minutes, they

44:24

kind of control play. So. they

44:26

gotta get off and get a full 60

44:28

in. And also to prove to themselves that

44:30

they can do it because my issue with

44:32

the Leafs a little bit is sometimes I'll

44:34

goal at these seven, eight minute stretches where

44:36

you're like, hey, you need

44:39

like that, okay, two bad shifts in a

44:41

row, that third line needs to kill

44:43

it and then get the momentum back and

44:45

then go back at it where I feel

44:47

like the good teams, like the

44:49

teams like the Dallas's, the Colorado's, the

44:51

Florida's, They don't allow those lapses to

44:53

happen as long as the Leafs do,

44:55

and especially against a team like Ottawa.

44:57

So credit to Ottawa. They got some

44:59

good young studs. But ultimately, Leafs got

45:02

to figure it out at home tonight,

45:04

get themselves some rest. Because if they

45:06

do play Florida next round, not only

45:08

is everything going to have to go

45:10

right, they're going to have to get

45:12

to a level that they've never gotten

45:14

to as far as compete. So let's

45:16

just focus on Ottawa tonight, though. I

45:18

don't think all mark has necessarily been

45:21

in his best. I'm a little concerned

45:23

with him stealing one But Stolar is

45:25

awesome. Like I don't really have many

45:27

gripes with the Leafs lineup right now

45:29

There's not like there's not like any

45:31

guys I could really pick on I

45:33

do I do wish that like looking

45:35

back they did a better job of

45:37

establishing a better bottom six in a

45:40

sense of like big, heavier players that

45:42

make more of an impact and can

45:44

like help wear teams down. I felt

45:46

like do, like, and I'm not trying

45:48

to criticize Dubas too much, but I

45:50

felt like during that era, they didn't

45:52

really draft like to fit those needs

45:54

necessarily per se, right? Like I do

45:56

like guys in the bottom six, but

45:59

there were maybe a few other guys

46:01

I'd like to have their making impact.

46:03

Like, like for instance, I look at

46:05

like Minnesota's fourth line. And I know

46:07

Ross, he's probably a little bit like

46:09

he should be a little higher in

46:11

the lineup. It just so happens he's

46:13

on that fourth, but like a guy

46:16

like Trennan and a guy like Brazil,

46:18

like those guys four check like Madden

46:20

and their big bodies. They're physical. Like

46:22

I'd like a little bit more that

46:24

from our four, our third and fourth

46:26

line right now. So, uh, McMahon's been

46:28

quiet. Have you found that? Like he's

46:30

made, he's played okay, but he's been

46:32

a little too quiet for me. So

46:35

I hope he has a big game

46:37

too and game five. I mean, speaking

46:39

of wearing, wearing guys down, is there

46:41

any concern in your mind about the

46:43

shop locking for the Leafs? Because they

46:45

are just eating shots. And we said

46:47

this on one of our overtime streams,

46:49

like, I do wonder,

46:51

like, if the longer this series

46:54

goes and like, Otto has

46:56

just been absolutely pelting Leafs players,

46:58

the entire series, like, at

47:00

some point, does that kind of

47:02

slow the Leafs down? Um,

47:05

no, no, because like, typically

47:07

teams that go deep do

47:10

that. Like Vegas was like

47:12

a notorious shot blocking team.

47:14

Like you would have Martinez,

47:16

McNabb, like Petrol, White, like

47:18

all those guys would just eat pox, right?

47:20

So you get a lot of bumps

47:23

and bruises, but the guys who do

47:25

it for Toronto are also used to

47:27

it. Like all of Reckman Larson, I

47:29

wouldn't say it was in his bag

47:31

before he got to Florida, but he

47:33

did that with Florida. Like he was,

47:35

he was solid enough doing that. Chris

47:37

Tan have obviously is doing that. He's

47:39

probably like the lead leaguer, lead league

47:41

and block shots. Like he's basically a

47:43

goalie, right? Like, so, um, no, I

47:45

don't, that, that is not something that

47:47

concerns me. No. Does this year

47:49

feel different to you? And I know that

47:51

that's a, I shouldn't ask a Leafs fan

47:53

that because they'll always say like, Oh yeah,

47:55

this year feels different, but. All year, maybe

47:57

it's because the East is so wide open,

47:59

but also because like I love the Carlo

48:02

edition. He's looking a little more like 2019

48:04

Carlo than he's looked the last couple of

48:06

years in Boston. I like the goal tending

48:08

for Toronto. Like this has been the easiest

48:10

year to make sense of the Leafs making

48:12

a run. And I agree with you that

48:14

if they run into trouble, it's not going

48:16

to be in this round. It might be

48:18

against Florida, but how much of your confidence

48:21

is you love this fucking team and how

48:23

much of it is, it kind of makes

48:25

sense this year. Yeah,

48:27

that's kind of where I'm at. I

48:29

view that their toughest round would

48:31

be round two against Florida. Because to

48:33

me, they could beat Washington. They

48:35

could beat Carolina. I agree. I

48:38

would probably have them over

48:40

both those teams. Obviously,

48:42

if you held a gun to my head

48:44

and you said, who would you take, Florida or

48:46

Toronto? I would say

48:48

the better team, maybe paper

48:50

wise, experience wise, proven

48:52

goal -tending wise. would

48:55

would be edge to Florida but you

48:57

just mentioned it like they have good

48:59

enough goal tending to win a Stanley

49:01

Cup like the numbers are the numbers

49:03

from regular season. He's looked good enough

49:05

in playoffs so far that he could

49:07

lead them to a Stanley Cup. The

49:09

back ends big like they you know

49:11

they're not like the most electrifying like

49:13

they don't have a Kail McCarr but

49:15

for some reason they've stepped it up

49:17

offensively so they're getting offense from Oregon

49:19

Riley they're getting it from Oliver Reckman

49:21

Larson and they have those big body

49:23

shutdown defensemen and then up front man

49:25

like they're they're top six like JT's

49:27

playing great man like he plays he

49:29

he's probably been their best consistent forward

49:31

he wins his battles he looks a

49:34

little bit faster even than last year

49:36

like he looks like he has his

49:38

jump and so it would just be

49:40

a matter of that bottom six like Pulling

49:42

them over the top. So personnel wise

49:44

boys like they have a good enough

49:46

team to win the Stanley Cup Nope,

49:49

just nobody trusts that those core four

49:51

guys can get it done one thing

49:53

that does like piss me off sometimes

49:55

always like Like like I like I

49:57

love Willie like I think like his

49:59

blade back demeanor is amazing Just like

50:01

he missed that one break away the

50:03

one game and like he's smiling but

50:05

then like in the next period They're

50:07

up by a goal and What

50:10

was it? I think there was

50:12

like a, it was four on four

50:14

and Toronto had, or Ottawa

50:16

had their guy coming out of the box, right?

50:18

So he obviously from like knowing the clock

50:20

perspective, like you have to have clock time

50:22

management. You have to know that. He had

50:25

it in the ozone and he like fumbled

50:27

it and lost it. And then he trips

50:29

the guy. So then all of a sudden

50:31

like Ottawa's gets the five on three and

50:33

then they score on it where I'm like,

50:35

like those are the things where it's like,

50:37

buddy, you got the one goal lead. You

50:39

have the puck in the offensive zone. Don't

50:41

fuck around with it. Understand clock management. This

50:44

is playoffs. Fuck off with the Tom Foolery.

50:46

Like I, like when I was playing with

50:48

my coach, Mike Stothers, if that would have

50:50

happened, he would have had the video up

50:52

between periods at the laser point or being

50:54

like, what the fuck is this? Like, what

50:56

are you doing? Like, fuck you. Like

50:58

this is bullshit because it is. And

51:00

like when you're making 11 million, you should

51:02

be making mistakes like that. Like those

51:04

are things in kinks that you work out.

51:06

in the regular season. So does he

51:08

do make up enough for it offensively? Like

51:11

that's pass over to Oliver Reckman Larson?

51:13

Absolutely. But if the Leafs want to win

51:15

a Stanley Cup, they're going to have

51:17

to not only get those plays being made

51:19

by those guys, but they're going to

51:21

have to dial it in mentally because the

51:23

teams like Florida, they'll fucking eat you

51:25

alive when you make mistakes like that. Dallas,

51:27

they'll eat you alive when you make

51:29

mistakes like that. Same thing with Colorado. So

51:31

luckily the teams in the West are

51:33

beating the shit out of each other. And

51:35

Toronto's hump would definitely be

51:37

just getting over Florida. Okay. This

51:40

show's motto is, uh, we do

51:42

chit chat, not hit chat, but,

51:44

uh, how do you handle

51:46

people calling everything dirty? Because I

51:48

saw your tweet after the Wilson

51:50

hit and I feel like I

51:52

see this often from you where

51:54

you react to people's maybe

51:56

overreactions. I'll say definitely overreactions to

51:59

every hit needing to be, let's

52:01

call every place. Every

52:03

time they complain about these

52:05

hits now, it's just like,

52:07

do they not understand what

52:09

knee flexion and torso, how

52:11

you're supposed to be, what angles

52:13

you're gonna be at when you're skating

52:15

and making a skating stride? Your

52:17

head is gonna be the first thing

52:19

that absorbs contact, even if you're

52:21

trying to drive through a player's body.

52:24

It's impossible. to like like look at

52:26

that he's got his arm in shoulder

52:28

down and his shoulders basically hitting him

52:30

like in like the collar bone slash

52:32

like neck area like I don't know

52:34

he's a little bit taller where do

52:36

you want him to get him that's

52:38

where he's exposed like keep your head

52:40

up coming through the neutral zone what

52:43

do you want me to tell you

52:45

yeah I mean like I I just

52:47

don't even engage in the the hit

52:49

chat stuff on Twitter anymore because like

52:51

you could have the most clear cut

52:53

dirty play that you've ever

52:55

seen in your life or the

52:57

most clear cut, clean hit you've

52:59

ever seen in your life. And

53:01

there will be somebody posting screenshots

53:03

being like, actually, this is dirty.

53:05

Like there will always be an

53:07

opposition. So it is always a

53:09

losing battle. Like, where do you

53:11

put what's happened in the Florida

53:14

series so far? Like, how do

53:16

you rank those incidents with Hegel,

53:18

with Kachuk and now with Barkov

53:20

or with Ekblad? Where do you

53:22

rank them? Yeah, so I was

53:24

okay with Hagel getting a game,

53:26

but I just like for people

53:28

who may maybe like never played

53:30

and once again, like this is

53:32

not an insult. Barkov is such

53:34

an amazing 200 foot center, right?

53:36

And he's so long and he's

53:38

able to close on guys. So

53:40

when he was closing on McDonough

53:42

and Hagel was tracking Barkov, probably

53:44

for that reason, right? Like you're

53:46

trying to not only support McDonough

53:49

as a player coming back there,

53:51

But when Barkov reached over and

53:53

like lifted his stick, it almost

53:55

looked because the puck shot out

53:57

that he made contact with it.

53:59

That's what I thought originally. Like

54:01

when I saw it in real time, I

54:03

was like, oh, I was like, oh, he knocked it

54:05

off his stick and then he caught him perfect timing.

54:07

And then they called the penalty and even Hegel was

54:09

like, what? And look at the

54:11

replay. He didn't touch it. So I

54:13

deemed it as a hockey play, but

54:15

he made the wrong read. It was

54:17

definitely, um, more of a violent hit

54:19

than the Kachuk one in a sense

54:21

of like how much he got, like

54:23

power he got him with. So at

54:25

that point, onus has to be on

54:27

the player. Okay. With him getting the

54:30

game where I assumed that they would

54:32

give one to Kachuk was like, like,

54:34

we all know what Kachuk was trying

54:36

to do there. Like, come on here.

54:38

Like, like, like, let's not even argue

54:40

that, right? Are we all on the

54:42

same page? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It's

54:45

Kachuk, which, which as Yance pointed out,

54:47

he's smart enough to hit him. just

54:49

the perfect like strength to not get

54:51

suspended. But when he got him, like

54:53

Gensel was blindsided and he landed on

54:55

his head. You can see his kind

54:57

of reaction where he hits his head

54:59

and he's like, so I thought based

55:01

on the precedent being set with Hagel

55:03

that they would have given to Chuck

55:05

one, but he flirted that line perfectly.

55:08

He took the perfect opportunity and a

55:10

nothing game at that point to get

55:12

his cheap shot on, cheap shot in

55:14

and retribution for the Hagel play. and

55:17

he gets out alive. Now, I

55:19

think just like peer pressure along

55:21

with the elbow from Ekblad, I

55:24

think he's probably gonna get a game. That

55:27

would be my assumption because it would be

55:29

so ridiculous if they get two cheap shots

55:31

and then Tampa gets one and Tampa's the

55:33

only one with a suspension. And Coop was

55:35

obviously pretty animated about it and rightfully so

55:38

on the fact that there was a no

55:40

call. And then sure enough, that guy ends

55:42

up getting the tying goal. So like I

55:44

said, I'm not like one of those people

55:46

that'll scream from the mountaintops like, Oh, that's

55:48

dirty from good chalk. He deserves to get

55:50

suspended. It's more of like, I don't know,

55:52

man, if you're going to throw Hegel out

55:54

for a game, you embark on his back,

55:57

like Gensel got back up and he stayed

55:59

in the game, like credit to him. So

56:02

I mean, yeah. So what did

56:04

you guys think? I

56:06

think that if you don't suspend ecblad, you have

56:08

to allow a player on the lightning to

56:10

take steroids. That's yeah, I

56:12

even the field I I

56:14

agree the answer to this we

56:16

were asking does eckblad count

56:18

as a repeat offender when he

56:20

took steroids and then did

56:22

something that looks like roid rage

56:24

You guys are idiots Well,

56:26

we're gonna pull up some of

56:28

your tweets because you you've

56:30

been hitting something that we hit

56:32

yesterday which is Do the

56:34

Oilers need to win this round

56:36

to keep Connor McDavid and

56:38

you had a tweet in game

56:40

two. Kings are the real

56:42

deal. Oilers on the ropes. Who

56:44

starts for Edmonton next game.

56:46

Man, after my own heart is

56:48

McDavid putting up with this

56:50

much longer. It's ugly. And then

56:52

game four, I think it

56:54

was, it must have been that

56:56

shitty one that Pickard allowed

56:58

that goal may make McDavid a

57:00

maple leaf. He's fed up.

57:02

I will remind folks. that you

57:04

knew that Bowman was going

57:06

to, you're the first person I

57:08

heard whisper a little something

57:10

about Dave. Stan Bowman to Edmonton.

57:12

Book it. Do you know

57:14

something or is this just conjecture?

57:17

No, no, I'm just fucking around. I'm

57:19

just stirring the pot. And like, like

57:21

the, the play was, yes, you're right.

57:23

It was on the three one goal

57:25

where I believe McDavid snapped it back

57:28

and Bush bobbled it. Bush is a

57:30

Jekyll and Hyde, by the way. Oh

57:32

yeah. You know, you

57:34

never know what you're getting with him.

57:36

He's got like split personality disorder out

57:38

there, which is awesome. If you have

57:40

those two electric dude, if the playoffs

57:42

ended today, he'd be in the con

57:44

smith conversation because his numbers are fucking

57:47

bonkers. It's like if Rasmus Ristalainen was

57:49

also Cale McCarr. Yeah. Exactly.

57:55

Exactly. He's like, was it

57:57

me, myself and Irene where he's like,

57:59

he just like is a new person all

58:01

of a sudden? But he, he bobbled

58:03

that one. I think he double clutched it.

58:05

And McDavid just went back to the

58:07

bench and they had the slow motion look

58:09

on his face. And I'm like, okay,

58:12

this is my, this is my time to

58:14

shine here and just stir the pot.

58:16

But, uh, no, no, I don't know anything.

58:18

And I'm sure he's happy in Edmonton.

58:20

And he seems like a type, like a

58:22

Sidney Crosby type where he's extremely loyal.

58:24

And I would, uh, I could only imagine,

58:26

uh, Leon Dreyseidel, if he

58:28

ended up saying, Hey, peace out, like

58:30

Leon, Leon might kill him. Yeah.

58:32

I can't get a gun. That's like,

58:34

that's almost, I want to see

58:36

them play together forever. I love their

58:38

friendship, but I would be really

58:40

intrigued by the Connor Leon relationship and

58:42

how it, how it goes. If,

58:44

if Connor ever leaves, it'd be amazing.

58:47

Imagine them scrapping center. I sleep, sleep.

58:49

Oilers first match up this McDavid

58:51

and Leon T and off on each

58:54

other. Cause of the betrayal. I

58:56

will say somebody in our chat yesterday

58:58

said, Oh, like what would it

59:00

do for Leon's numbers and his career

59:02

if McDavid left? If Leon had

59:04

to be the only guy on a

59:06

team, he would be fucking awesome.

59:08

He would be what Nathan McKinnon is.

59:11

He would be incredible. Yes.

59:13

Yes. He can drive his own line.

59:15

Yeah. He, like every team's going to

59:17

have a talented enough top five players

59:19

where he still is going to be

59:21

in a 90 to 110 point range

59:24

regardless. Like it's obviously those guys are,

59:26

are, are just on a different planet.

59:28

So when you have another guy like

59:30

that, you're able to, it's like a

59:32

Pippen and Jordan situation where you can

59:34

just do even more superior things. But

59:37

yeah, it ain't affecting him. And like,

59:39

McDavid was injured. at the end of

59:41

the season, like you see what he

59:43

can do without him. Uh,

59:45

last one for me, who,

59:47

who wins in a fight, a

59:49

hundred Irish travelers or a

59:52

gorilla? I

59:54

don't know, man. When they got the, the, the

59:56

blow on them and they got the pops

59:58

in them, they, those guys are like the energizer

1:00:00

buddy, man. They, they got the,

1:00:02

they got the, they got the cross size. They got

1:00:04

the twitch in their eyes, man. They go crazy.

1:00:06

So I had to put my, my money on a

1:00:08

hundred Irish travelers. How

1:00:11

did you do he was talking about

1:00:13

this before the show like what really

1:00:15

has you've done so many great things

1:00:17

you were its amazing Twitter personality and

1:00:20

then obviously the podcast and TV and

1:00:22

everything what is really what really vaulted

1:00:24

you into being like a household name

1:00:26

and a Hero who everybody loves is

1:00:28

the fact that you fought maniacs It

1:00:30

guys like I like I'm sure you

1:00:32

guys have heard this story like so

1:00:34

I always go to that Houston's right

1:00:36

and like I had a

1:00:38

couple puffs of a joint. I go in,

1:00:40

I order my salad and I chill.

1:00:43

I just chill there, right? So the last

1:00:45

thing I expected at Houston's family restaurant

1:00:47

was something like that to happen. And it

1:00:49

just kind of escalated out of nowhere.

1:00:51

The last thing I wanted to do was

1:00:53

scrap in a restaurant, but

1:00:55

I knew the guys. So I was

1:00:57

just like, why are guys like in

1:00:59

this guy's grill right now? Like this

1:01:01

makes no sense. And the fact that

1:01:03

it had gone on for 45 seconds

1:01:05

at that point, like I don't know

1:01:07

if it's cause I like had took

1:01:09

a couple of puffs or, or whatever,

1:01:11

or because like that was my job

1:01:13

in the NHL. I was just like,

1:01:15

okay, well, this is ridiculous. They don't

1:01:17

have security here and nobody's doing anything.

1:01:20

So I'll walk over. And like as

1:01:22

I'm walking over, they were still being

1:01:24

dickheads. So, um, yeah, probably, probably could

1:01:26

have did a better job of deescalating

1:01:28

the situation, but at the end of

1:01:30

the day, who gives a fucking. I

1:01:32

got boot -fucked in the head a couple

1:01:34

times and we lived to laugh about

1:01:36

it, right? Did you have any concern

1:01:38

after the fact that you were in

1:01:40

a marijuana -induced psychosis and that you

1:01:42

were actually just envisioning and hallucinating and

1:01:44

you were just fighting like a nice

1:01:46

family of five? It's

1:01:50

like that bitch stole

1:01:52

my appetizer! They

1:01:55

play you back the security footage,

1:01:57

and you're like, oh, that's not what

1:01:59

I thought happened whatsoever. like,

1:02:02

sir, you ripped the kid out of his

1:02:04

stroller. Like, what are you doing? And

1:02:06

you had already put out the video explaining what

1:02:08

happened. You were like, I go to this restaurant.

1:02:11

This gentleman is being mean to this person.

1:02:13

And we see the video after. We're

1:02:15

like, oh, that's not what it was, bro.

1:02:18

Nope. Nope. That was a piety.

1:02:21

You were smoking crack. Uh,

1:02:25

I wasn't cannabis. Um, but yeah, no,

1:02:27

I, I'll, I just remember afterward how

1:02:29

gassed I was cause I went from

1:02:31

like just being a chill mode to

1:02:33

next thing, you know, it was like

1:02:35

Peter Griffin and the chicken having a

1:02:38

scrap three, three minutes go by and

1:02:40

I'm sitting on the curve at CVS

1:02:42

and I'm doing post game press conferences.

1:02:44

So, um, yeah, it was just

1:02:46

a. Crazy time boys and like I don't

1:02:48

know I do feel like weird shit

1:02:50

does happen to me more frequently than others

1:02:52

Like I just I'm one of those

1:02:55

guys where like I just find myself in

1:02:57

a weird situation sometimes and Yeah, like

1:02:59

I talked to like a few of my

1:03:01

buddies are just like buddy. How does

1:03:03

this shit always happen when you're around and

1:03:05

I'm like, I don't know Maybe it's

1:03:07

cuz you got a zest for life. That's

1:03:09

why Yeah, maybe, maybe. I mean, it's

1:03:11

like Fidelberg. Fidelberg always has these stories. And

1:03:14

then they all happened. And people always

1:03:16

think that he's just making up his stories.

1:03:18

And like, based off the one time

1:03:20

that I hung out with him for a

1:03:22

night, it was the craziest fucking story

1:03:24

I've ever had in my life. We stole

1:03:26

a dog. Accidentally. And

1:03:29

it was just like, I 100 % believe all of

1:03:31

his stories because he told that story exactly the

1:03:33

way that it happened. And it was insane. We saw

1:03:35

a dog that was by itself and we were

1:03:37

like, we're going to the beach to have a late

1:03:40

night swim. We gotta, we can't let this dog

1:03:42

be by itself. Well, let's bring it to the beach.

1:03:44

Let's take care of them. Let's feed them. Let's,

1:03:46

we wake up the next morning to the next door

1:03:48

neighbors who are like, Hey, we saw

1:03:50

you come on our porch and

1:03:52

take our dog. And we were like,

1:03:54

fuck, that's what happened. Yeah. what

1:03:56

was going on with the Did you guys have

1:03:58

it in your place? Yeah. My

1:04:02

head at the pillow being like DJ,

1:04:04

you are a good person. You saved

1:04:07

a dog. You, you keep good company.

1:04:09

You all did the right thing. And

1:04:11

then the next morning when they were

1:04:13

like, we have our dog back. Everyone's

1:04:15

like, right. Yeah,

1:04:18

you're waking up to body cam footage. But

1:04:21

fights is the man. He's so talented,

1:04:23

much like you guys and fun, funny bastards.

1:04:25

All you guys are funny bastards. I

1:04:27

love fights. You know what? When we, the

1:04:29

first time we had Seth Jarvis on,

1:04:31

I was like, do you know John Fidelberg?

1:04:34

He was like, don't know who that

1:04:36

is. And I was like, you would, you're

1:04:38

very similar because you both seem to,

1:04:40

like everyone loves you and you hate yourself.

1:04:42

And that's just kind of Seth Jarvis,

1:04:44

which is amazing. And that's what Fidelberg is.

1:04:46

And I'm glad there are people in

1:04:48

this world like them. Yes,

1:04:50

we all need more people like

1:04:52

hit fights and Jarvis and definitely need

1:04:55

more guys like Jarvis in the

1:04:57

NHL. If you had like two, two

1:04:59

Jarvis's per team in the NHL,

1:05:01

we would be in very, very, very

1:05:03

good shape. Amazing. Well, there is

1:05:05

no one like you. Thank you so much

1:05:07

for coming on. We always appreciate you, buddy. Oh,

1:05:09

right back at you guys keep doing your

1:05:12

thing. I love seeing you guys clip watching your

1:05:14

show. Are you guys you guys crush it?

1:05:16

And I love running into you guys when we're

1:05:18

at the events too. And and and Blackie,

1:05:20

I'm sure I'll see you at the Stanley Cup

1:05:22

finals, but you're getting married this summer, right?

1:05:24

I am. Yeah. Are you?

1:05:26

Are you a groomsman? Beiner?

1:05:29

I'm the best man. That's

1:05:31

right. Wow. There you go. That's

1:05:34

a lot of pressure. I'm giving him away. That's

1:05:37

right. It's walking me down

1:05:39

the aisle. Do you have to emcee

1:05:41

the wedding too? I will done.

1:05:43

I probably am not supposed to but

1:05:46

I fucking will I'll make it story

1:05:48

time a prop Mike so he can

1:05:50

he can like yeah, no one knows

1:05:52

it's not on I'm just walking around

1:05:54

just having a good time. You won't

1:05:56

gift him the neighbor's dog for his

1:05:58

wedding present. That

1:06:01

would be the best. Yeah. You're

1:06:04

the best. Love you boys.

1:06:07

Keep doing your thing. Find a way to get

1:06:09

some sleep at some point soon. I'm going to

1:06:11

go right back to the wrapper right now. Oh,

1:06:13

you got it. All right. Later, boys. What

1:06:17

a legend. He's fantastic. There's no one like

1:06:19

him. He said that there should be more

1:06:21

people like Jarvis. There should be. I

1:06:24

don't want another biz. I want that.

1:06:26

I want biz to be the only

1:06:28

place you can find great hockey analysis

1:06:30

and being attacked by people when he

1:06:32

did not have it coming. All of

1:06:34

it. I'll tell you who wants there

1:06:36

to be another biz. ESPN.

1:06:40

Yes. ESPN could use

1:06:42

another biz. You say that

1:06:44

after ESPN had an absolute banner.

1:06:47

I will say ESPN had a great

1:06:49

night last night. That's a great. I

1:06:51

don't think it was by any like

1:06:53

not by their plan and not by

1:06:55

like. They're not supposed. They can't. They

1:06:57

try to plan. Yes. Funny segments all

1:07:00

the time and they they never hit.

1:07:02

They they accidentally made it a great.

1:07:04

Well, they accidentally said the first part.

1:07:06

They did capitalize on looking into a

1:07:08

very true situation. They had

1:07:10

they had Dave Jackson in studio

1:07:12

last night. And then after

1:07:14

the Ekblad thing happened, Mark Messier

1:07:16

and P. K. Subban with

1:07:18

Dave Jackson in studio was electric

1:07:20

movie. Mark Messier lost his

1:07:22

fucking mind. And it was amazing.

1:07:24

And then they came back,

1:07:26

uh, in the second intermission and

1:07:29

they set Messier up, uh,

1:07:31

for like how angry he got

1:07:33

about the Ekblad forearm shiver

1:07:35

and just showed a montage of

1:07:37

Messier, like trying to kill

1:07:39

guys. And it was hilarious. And

1:07:41

it was made even more hilarious by

1:07:43

the fact that Messier was so uncomfortable and

1:07:45

so mad and was like, that was

1:07:48

30 years ago. Played a different

1:07:50

sport. Which fair, but I thought it

1:07:52

was fun that ESPN was having fun

1:07:54

with it. That's not something that I'm

1:07:56

typically getting from them. So great job

1:07:58

on that. And I absolutely love when

1:08:00

people yell at Dave Jackson. So I

1:08:02

was there for that. Dave Jackson was

1:08:04

completely right. Messier was just

1:08:06

so emotional in the moment that he was not

1:08:08

listening to what Dave Jackson had to say. And

1:08:10

then PK said, the most ridiculous thing I've ever

1:08:12

said, I've ever heard, which is that the eggplant

1:08:14

hit was, you couldn't have called an elbow on

1:08:16

that. And even though it was like the only

1:08:19

point of contact was that bloods elbow. Um, and

1:08:21

then yeah, Messier just absolutely lost it at that

1:08:23

point. It was hilarious. It is very funny that

1:08:25

Dave Jackson was right for the first time in

1:08:27

his life and got absolutely screamed at by Mark.

1:08:29

Uh, you

1:08:31

have some breaking news. We

1:08:33

can expect harmonicas at the

1:08:35

Crip this evening, okay? I

1:08:37

mean if they didn't if

1:08:39

those ladies weren't there after

1:08:41

how that series went in

1:08:44

Edmonton It would be the

1:08:46

biggest chunk of all time.

1:08:48

They need that so bad

1:08:50

that that is the last

1:08:52

crumb of hope and That

1:08:54

sounds dramatic, but like right

1:08:56

now If you're the Kings,

1:08:58

and I'm not saying that you're

1:09:00

done and you're not still absolutely in

1:09:02

this, but if you don't have

1:09:05

that one thing that reminds you of the

1:09:07

good old days, damn, what do you have? They

1:09:09

need to make it better each time. Like

1:09:11

last like but but incrementally like the first time

1:09:13

you just had the women the second time

1:09:15

they had jerseys by the by the time he

1:09:17

gets to the Stanley Cup I want like

1:09:19

a full -blown Super Bowl halftime show production. Oh,

1:09:21

I was gonna say they gotta be yeah buckets.

1:09:23

Yes. I was gonna take more and more

1:09:26

uniform more uniform elements as the series goes along

1:09:28

by the end of it like stick in

1:09:30

there like armpit while you play by the end

1:09:32

of it It turns into like a disney

1:09:34

on ice where they're skating around playing the harmonica.

1:09:36

I mean they do have to be on

1:09:38

the ice at some point, right? Yes, I 100%,

1:09:41

then you need to get closer and closer

1:09:43

to the guys. Yeah, closer to the action.

1:09:45

Okay, we'll see what happens. I'll say, by

1:09:47

the way, I've been worried the whole series,

1:09:50

this is, and here's where we get in trouble. This

1:09:52

is the first day I've woken up for one

1:09:54

of these games. Actually, no, I felt

1:09:56

good about game two, but this is the

1:09:58

best I have felt. I don't like

1:10:00

that. because I don't have confidence in the image. I mean,

1:10:02

after the before the last game, you were saying that they

1:10:04

were going to lose. So. Oh,

1:10:06

yeah, I think I have had an appropriate read

1:10:08

on the series, I think. Well, that's nice of

1:10:10

you to say. But no, that's the last time

1:10:13

he said the others were going to lose and

1:10:15

they did not. So I think

1:10:17

we're going to lose that game was

1:10:19

still the right. Yes. Well, yeah,

1:10:21

I guess more of my point

1:10:23

is like you being comfortable might

1:10:25

not be a good sign because you

1:10:27

weren't comfortable last time. Yeah, but

1:10:29

I feel like his feelings towards the

1:10:32

Oilers have been valid. Yes, that

1:10:34

I agree with 100%. It's hard to

1:10:36

say that you were right or

1:10:38

wrong last time out. This series

1:10:40

is not for the right or the

1:10:42

wrong. NHL

1:10:45

draft lottery is on Monday, so

1:10:47

we will be doing a stream for

1:10:49

that. That's going to be very,

1:10:51

very big stuff. Boston Bruins have the

1:10:53

fifth best chances, getting the first

1:10:55

overall pick. NHL will probably rig it

1:10:57

because they're an original six team.

1:11:00

We're probably going to get some like,

1:11:02

let's hope. Hawks one, Bruins two,

1:11:04

Bruins two, Hawks one. Preds

1:11:06

one? I don't know,

1:11:08

but... sure that you are subscribed to

1:11:11

the YouTube because that's where you

1:11:13

get all of our overtime streams, all

1:11:15

of our videos that are not

1:11:17

on this show and also things like

1:11:19

the lottery stream. So be there

1:11:21

for that. I mean, I'm a little

1:11:23

nervous at this point that maybe

1:11:25

I have not been hurt to completion

1:11:27

yet. They've got one more

1:11:29

in them. Yeah, maybe one more swing

1:11:31

of the boot straight to my

1:11:33

nutsack during the draft lottery. We'll see

1:11:35

what happens, but like. I guess

1:11:37

if I hope that they finish with

1:11:39

the fifth pick, then I

1:11:41

probably won't be disappointed. I mean,

1:11:43

I feel like four or five,

1:11:45

you're still getting Hagan's. Mathematically speaking,

1:11:48

you're most likely to end up

1:11:50

where you're slotted, right? Correct. I

1:11:55

feel like if you're setting yourself up for

1:11:57

failure by hoping it's going to be anything

1:11:59

other than that. I hit the tankathon. Quite

1:12:01

a bit. You can get seven. I've hit

1:12:03

the Tankathon quite a bit this season. I'll

1:12:05

tell you what, the Bruins ended up in

1:12:07

the top three several times. That means a

1:12:10

chance. We did a bunch of Tankathons for

1:12:12

the Arizona Coyotes when they were in the

1:12:14

lottery and they won a bunch of times.

1:12:16

And famously, the Arizona Coyotes franchise has never

1:12:18

had the first overall pick, even though they

1:12:20

finished with them. I'm holding on hope for

1:12:22

them. They'll get it soon. One

1:12:24

of these days. Sean, hit me with

1:12:26

the slate, brother. Four

1:12:29

games tonight, following up yesterday's two

1:12:31

for 7pm Eastern on ESPN. You

1:12:33

can get the Maple Leafs trying

1:12:35

to put away the Senators at

1:12:37

home. They lead that series, three

1:12:39

games to one. This will be

1:12:41

game five. Also a game five

1:12:44

in Carolina, 7 .30pm Eastern, Devils

1:12:46

at Hurricanes, Carolina. Trying

1:12:48

to take this thing home, that'll be

1:12:50

on TBS. ESPN has Wild

1:12:53

at Golden Knights, game five.

1:12:55

This... a series. What a

1:12:57

series. That's at 9 30

1:12:59

p .m. And then at

1:13:01

10 Eastern in the United

1:13:03

States and Canada, Oilers at

1:13:05

Kings game five series tied

1:13:08

to two. It's on TBS.

1:13:10

The Koreatown Senior and Community

1:13:12

Center Harmonica class expected to

1:13:14

be there honking on the

1:13:16

bobo. And we see what happens.

1:13:19

We see who takes control of

1:13:21

this series going in. Let's see. Either

1:13:25

of the two two series

1:13:27

wild at Golden Knights Oilers

1:13:29

at Kings Will you think

1:13:31

either one is over after

1:13:33

tonight? I guess maybe

1:13:36

if the Golden Knights kick the

1:13:38

shit out of the wild But even

1:13:40

then like maybe not There is

1:13:42

no chance that I'm going to believe

1:13:44

that the LA Edmonton series is

1:13:46

over based off of what happens tonight

1:13:49

Just no way has there well

1:13:51

has there been a real game in

1:13:53

that series maybe game two, which

1:13:56

was just like a straight, like

1:13:58

one team was good. team was

1:14:00

bad. The game two is

1:14:02

the only game of that series that I

1:14:04

think was kind of like a somewhat

1:14:06

normal ish hockey game. So I agree with

1:14:08

you. Whatever happens tonight, I expect to

1:14:11

be empty calories and fake and brain rot.

1:14:13

So no, I will not base the

1:14:15

rest of the series based on whatever I

1:14:17

see tonight. I think that you're right.

1:14:19

If the golden nights smoke the wild, then

1:14:21

yeah, you feel that's kind of done,

1:14:23

but. Wild have been

1:14:26

what wild have definitely shown me

1:14:28

something definitely. These are four good

1:14:30

games I don't care about the

1:14:32

doubles and her games three good

1:14:34

games sends sends a this is

1:14:36

a big big step for the

1:14:39

sense tonight drag them back to

1:14:41

Ontario That's right get a win

1:14:43

bring them back to Ontario. Well,

1:14:45

they know they bring it back

1:14:47

to the Ontario the TNT doesn't

1:14:49

go to Yeah, fair because they

1:14:52

do go to this Ontario It's

1:14:54

just that on that Ottawa the

1:14:56

capital of Ontario, capital of Canada.

1:14:58

Capital of Canada's Ottawa. Yes.

1:15:01

Is a small Canadian city, I

1:15:03

believe, is the way or

1:15:05

a small Canadian. Yeah, the way

1:15:07

they put it. Would the

1:15:09

people of Edmonton be offended that

1:15:11

they're considered a small Canadian

1:15:13

market based off of TNT's explanation?

1:15:16

If you are offended, you

1:15:18

are wrong. Yeah, mean,

1:15:21

I was like, I was

1:15:23

looking at interestingly a lot

1:15:25

of maps of Canada yesterday

1:15:27

election maps and they would

1:15:29

they Block out like the

1:15:31

the big areas and it's

1:15:33

just Montreal Toronto and Vancouver.

1:15:35

But like if you're talking

1:15:37

about a like a market

1:15:39

like an NHL market Edmonton

1:15:41

is not small I Mean

1:15:43

I mean my market Market

1:15:46

standards it is. Yeah, like they

1:15:48

sell out the stadium when you say

1:15:50

market You're thinking of like TV

1:15:52

and all that shit like it is

1:15:54

small, but it is it is

1:15:56

It is a good hockey. It's passionate

1:15:58

and it's loyal, but it is

1:16:00

it is Small by all like measurable.

1:16:04

I don't the exception of looks like I guess

1:16:06

the exception of like yeah, they sell tickets And

1:16:08

I think that's the most important part, but they

1:16:10

don't have they're not gonna get big TV deals Okay,

1:16:13

this slate is an A because

1:16:15

it is the postseason. Are any

1:16:17

series wrapped up tonight? Does Carolina

1:16:19

end it? Yeah, I think Carolina

1:16:21

ends it. I think I think

1:16:23

Toronto ends it. No, I don't

1:16:25

see this being the series that

1:16:27

gives them trouble. I think be

1:16:29

wrong. Toronto ends it. I don't

1:16:31

think Carolina does. I think we

1:16:33

get a little bit of an

1:16:35

asshole game from playoff P playoff

1:16:37

Piotr tonight. What? Oh,

1:16:39

wait, this is great. What

1:16:41

if he's Awesome. Is

1:16:44

there anything Piotr Chekov can do

1:16:46

that makes you say got to

1:16:48

stick with him in the second

1:16:50

round, go with him against Montreal

1:16:52

or Washington 40 safe shot out.

1:16:54

I mean, no, because like if

1:16:56

he's awesome tonight, then that's a

1:16:58

a one game sample against a

1:17:01

depleted New Jersey Devils. Yeah. How

1:17:03

much confidence are you really like?

1:17:05

How much is your confidence really

1:17:07

being shifted by that one game?

1:17:09

Yeah. Freddie Anderson's availability, though. You

1:17:11

could be seeing plenty of peoder,

1:17:13

which we should all be hoping

1:17:16

for. I was I ate

1:17:18

one dollar to win a hundred

1:17:20

and one on Peter Koshakov consmyth odds.

1:17:22

Yeah, I did not yet. But

1:17:24

somebody I tweeted when I said when

1:17:26

Peter allowed the game, I tweeted

1:17:28

playoff P and somebody said consmyth journey

1:17:30

starts now and I looked it

1:17:32

up and it is you get pretty

1:17:35

good odds. It's only I mean,

1:17:37

a hundred to one is it's not

1:17:39

as. Juicy as I would expect

1:17:41

I just I don't think they are

1:17:43

they want to run the risk

1:17:45

of yeah putting odds out too too

1:17:47

long, but yeah, it was I

1:17:49

threw a lot on when McKinnon's odds

1:17:51

got crazy. I threw a good

1:17:54

amount on it and it gave one

1:17:56

of those like Your if I

1:17:58

think the first one I've ever gotten

1:18:00

which was Your bet is under

1:18:02

review. Oh wow like we

1:18:04

like we need someone to take a

1:18:06

look at it and say, okay,

1:18:08

we'll Let him play it was like

1:18:10

$50 or whatever, but it's to

1:18:12

win like $25 ,000 and they're like,

1:18:14

are we sure we want to do

1:18:16

this? No, McKinnon's not winning fine.

1:18:18

I have two cons my futures out

1:18:20

and I now the other of

1:18:22

them are looking particularly good right now

1:18:24

who gave land is Gogg and

1:18:26

I haven't done it off. Okay. Oh,

1:18:28

those are very funny. Yeah. I

1:18:30

mean, I put a dollar on each

1:18:32

of them to like $100, but

1:18:34

I was doing it for the vibes.

1:18:36

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1:18:38

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all that good stuff. Real quick, Fighting Amish

1:19:07

doesn't know geography. Edmonton

1:19:09

is larger than Boston, but the Boston

1:19:11

Metro area, the Boston market is

1:19:13

significantly larger than the city of There

1:19:15

were a few comments like that,

1:19:17

and I'm like, I'm just gonna those.

1:19:19

I'm a huge geography guy. Boston's

1:19:21

market is massive. Boston proper is quite

1:19:24

small. Yeah, right. Yeah, the size

1:19:26

of the market is not the actual

1:19:28

geographical size of the town. But

1:19:30

even like Boston Metro, like even

1:19:32

ignoring the rest of the market, Boston Metro

1:19:34

is one of largest metro areas in the

1:19:36

country in North America. Boston proper

1:19:39

is quite quite small, but all right with that

1:19:41

We will talk to you tomorrow more politics

1:19:43

coming your way on what chaos. Bye. Bye

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