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What Happened When? with

4:41

the voice of your childhood

4:43

Tony Shibati! Tony, what's

4:45

going on man? How are you? Conran,

4:47

what's going on with you buddy? How are you

4:49

doing? Man, if I was any better, I'd be

4:51

twins and I don't think the world can handle

4:53

two of me. I'm so excited to be here

4:55

with you. It's been a

4:57

beautiful weekend here in my life and

5:00

hopefully in yours as well and we're

5:02

ready to get our week started here

5:04

on Patreon. Of course,

5:06

everybody else enjoys this on

5:08

Wednesday, and hopefully if

5:10

you're listening on Wednesday, you're going to

5:12

check out Tony tonight on AEW. It's

5:15

a big deal, man. Fight for

5:17

the fallen Brian Cage, John

5:20

Moxley. This was supposed to have

5:22

happened, but COVID had

5:24

different plans. It's happening tonight. World

5:26

champion versus FTW champion. Who

5:29

you got, Tony Tone Tone? I

5:31

got John Moxley. Because John Moxley

5:33

likes violence and he likes now now

5:35

hang on a second I Got

5:37

John Moxley and that is without knowing

5:40

what's going to happen. Okay. We're

5:42

right. Yeah, we should yeah, yeah Yeah,

5:44

don't everybody listen to this say

5:46

Paul Shivani's already spoiled it Moxley's going

5:48

to win. I don't know I

5:50

Won't I really won't know till I

5:52

get there and I really won't

5:54

know till So sometimes the final of

5:56

hand hits three times. You son

5:58

of a bitch. What are you trying

6:00

to insinuate? Yes, that's

6:02

exactly right. Here's what.

6:04

Here's the deal, though. Let's just

6:06

talk brass tacks before we get

6:08

into the reason we're here and

6:10

don't get me wrong. We've

6:12

got a great show planned for

6:14

you. I'm excited to talk about

6:17

it. But first we wanted to

6:19

do this right up front so

6:21

we could get annoying tabs

6:23

off of our list today because

6:25

the idea that both you and

6:27

I. Would pick John Moxley to

6:29

beat his thoroughbred Brian Cage is

6:32

going to annoy Taz and our

6:34

phones are gonna blow up.

6:36

Hmm. Well, I've uh, I've got

6:38

a remedy for that Okay, you

6:40

just put your phone on silent

6:42

and pick it up down then

6:44

and ignore it So you

6:46

like poking the bear I love

6:48

fucking the bear. It's one of

6:51

my favorite things to do. And

6:53

we're going to poke the bear

6:55

a lot today. We're

6:57

going to be talking about ECW Heatwave 2000.

7:00

And I'm excited to cover this one.

7:02

It went down on July 16th in

7:04

2000. This is really what

7:06

was the way you used

7:09

to describe WCW towards the end,

7:11

a coffin on roller skates. A

7:14

cluster fuck. Well.

7:16

A coffin on roller skates is

7:18

probably where ECW is headed here in

7:20

July of 2000. And that pains

7:22

me to say, but we know they're

7:24

going to run their last show in January. So

7:27

just five months after this,

7:29

they're done. And this

7:31

is one of the last big paper

7:33

views, and it's not without its

7:35

own controversy. So there's a lot to

7:37

unpack here, a lot to talk

7:40

about. And there may even be

7:42

some some follow up we're going to

7:44

do over at ad free shows.com

7:46

and patreon.com forward slash w h w

7:48

monday. Because you and I have

7:50

a friend. Who happened to

7:52

be there in a professional capacity and

7:54

he's going to update us on some

7:57

shenanigans and they offered to do that.

7:59

On the regular program here but of course

8:01

we don't do guests here and we're

8:04

going to upset the apple card so it's

8:06

just going to be me and Tony

8:08

today but. At some point we're going to

8:10

break off and have a few minutes

8:12

and catch up about the controversy surrounding the

8:14

show and man there is a lot

8:16

of it. And you've never seen this show

8:18

right Tony. No I've never seen it

8:20

and about the controversy I'm very unaware of

8:23

what the controversy was of the show

8:25

with the exception of. Now I

8:27

did watch parts of it today you know

8:29

getting prepped for this. There's a

8:31

lot of females. Scanly

8:33

clad. Oh, so you've

8:36

already seen the spoiler. Let me just tell

8:38

you, the start of this pay -per -view

8:40

is going to be Tony's favorite start to

8:42

a pay -per -view in the professional wrestling

8:44

category ever. You've got to find it

8:46

over on the WWE Network. What

8:48

I want you to do is go

8:50

to in ring, scroll down to see

8:52

the ECW pay -per -views, select 2000 and

8:54

then select ECW Heatwave 2000 from July

8:56

16th. Tony, I've got to pull it

8:58

up on my end. I'm ready when

9:00

you are. I'm pulling it up too,

9:03

baby. Ready?

9:06

When I say play, hit play. Oh, well,

9:08

we're not, we're not doing a big pomp and

9:10

circumstance. We're getting right to the shit today. Well,

9:12

you want some more pomp and circumstance? No,

9:14

no, no, no. I'm ready.

9:17

Okay. Now I'm going

9:19

to go three, two, one play. And

9:21

when I say play, you hit play, not

9:24

after I say play, but when, right

9:26

when I say play, you hit it. Okay.

9:28

And by the way. If you want

9:30

to hear this interrupted without ads, go to

9:32

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9:34

with us on the free version that comes

9:36

out on Wednesday, occasionally Westwood One

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will drop an ad in there. Praise

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9:43

City who make that happen. But we know it

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messes you up at home and we want

9:47

you to be uninterrupted. So take your ass over

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to adfreshows.com. But as you know, as a

9:51

longtime listener of the show, you don't have to

9:53

be watching the show with us to enjoy

9:55

it and have some laughs. But

9:57

it does sometimes make it a

9:59

little more fun, especially when the

10:01

show starts like this one. So

10:05

here we go.

10:08

In three, two, one,

10:11

play. Track it.

10:24

How did you ever get involved with a man

10:26

like the blue boy? I mean,

10:28

the blue boy in his natural

10:30

habitat, the blue boy looking fit,

10:33

the blue boy looking firm, and

10:36

the blue boy looking

10:38

fine, and the blue

10:40

boy is utterly disgusted.

10:43

Hey, come look at

10:45

this! Look at

10:47

this fat! piece of shit

10:49

hey lord ask it up

10:51

when i'm talking you can

10:53

use the exercise oh that

10:55

thing back man oh hey

10:57

brother don't you have any

10:59

pride don't you have any

11:01

self -esteem don't you have

11:03

any motivation i dare you

11:05

to even know a man

11:07

named jim let the one

11:09

work out in one i

11:11

mean oh it's not exactly

11:13

here It's not

11:15

exactly here, but it's

11:18

right here that makes

11:20

you a fat bastard. Oh,

11:22

don't be jealous, lardass. I

11:25

mean, nobody can look as good

11:27

as the blue boy, but

11:29

you wouldn't be man enough to

11:31

handle a woman like Jasmine

11:33

St. Clair by you blue piece

11:35

of crap. Hey, what's with

11:38

the fatitude? I'm gonna kill your

11:40

ass! You

11:43

ain't even worth

11:45

the sweat of the

11:48

Blue Boy's Edge. Come

11:51

on, honey, let's go. The

11:56

Blue Boy has

11:58

sold his soul,

12:00

and now he's

12:02

reaping the benefits.

12:05

Jasmine St. Clair, here

12:08

we are, sunny Los

12:10

Angeles, California. Now

12:12

this. is no city of

12:14

angels. It's the devil's

12:16

playground. Let's face it. Historically

12:19

speaking, every time there's

12:21

a heat wave in LA,

12:23

you have riots, burning,

12:26

looting, pillaging,

12:29

blackouts. But

12:31

I know you wrestling

12:34

fans are far too

12:36

sophisticated to enjoy such

12:38

reindeer games. That's why

12:40

in the interest of

12:42

higher art and culture,

12:44

I present to you

12:46

Extreme Championship Wrestling Heat

12:48

Wave 2000, live

12:50

on Pay Per View. Now

12:53

this is a show that

12:55

is fully loaded. In fact,

12:57

you might say that it's

12:59

a regular Rodney King of

13:01

the Ring. And topping

13:03

off the show tonight, we have

13:05

a match that's near and dear

13:07

to me. holds a special

13:09

place in my heart. It's

13:12

called the stairway to

13:14

hell. The world

13:16

heavyweight champion, just

13:18

incredible. The innovator of violence,

13:21

Tommy Dremer. Who's gonna win? Who's

13:24

gonna lose? I

13:26

don't care. The only

13:28

thing for certain is that they're

13:30

both up to their necks

13:32

in hot water. Wouldn't you

13:34

agree, Mikey? Tony

14:02

what the fuck did we just watch? I

14:07

Love you. I was so excited

14:09

to see that open First of

14:11

all Jasmine should have not worn

14:13

anything she she she should have

14:15

worn anything because she didn't wear

14:18

anything well I mean, there was

14:20

nothing to the imagination with her

14:22

there. You know what she's famous

14:24

for, by the way? No, I

14:26

don't. We'll talk about it some other

14:28

time. But was that the blue

14:30

meanie is blue boy? Yeah. Wow,

14:32

he looked good. Yeah.

14:34

Wow, man. And

14:36

here we are. And we're at

14:38

the the Olympic of the legendary Olympic

14:41

Auditorium in LA. And

14:43

why it's legendary. Well,

14:46

they used to have wrestling there a lot.

14:48

If they did. It's also where they shot ready

14:50

to rumble. How about that? And

14:52

they, they, I think they also shot

14:54

a man in the moon part of

14:57

that there with Jerry Lawler. So many

14:59

great things over the days. You

15:01

know, I mean, it's, uh, it's one of

15:03

the more iconic buildings, not a huge building,

15:06

but certainly, uh, one that saw

15:08

its fair share ish. I

15:10

mean, how about Rocky was shot

15:12

there? Hmm. I mean, I

15:14

know you mentioned the, the resequence,

15:16

but dude. Rocky, come on.

15:18

Yeah, I think it's just I

15:20

think it's just now just

15:22

a movie set. I

15:24

don't think they have any any more

15:26

shows in there of of any type.

15:28

I may be wrong. It may have

15:30

changed, but I was told that they

15:32

it's just a movie set now. So

15:34

maybe I'm wrong. Looking so good is

15:36

for this fucking snakeskin neck brace. Is

15:38

that something, man? He's looking good. And

15:40

he's got them had cut off. Look

15:42

at the suit and just now he

15:44

looks like. Remember Tim in the

15:46

summer suit. I know he killed the gimmick, but

15:48

he used to walk around the suits with shorts

15:50

like this and called it a summer suit. Yeah.

15:53

Well, he never went full Gertner or the chest

15:55

hair was hanging out the taco meat. Maybe

15:57

he should bring that back. Look,

16:00

look at this. This group of fans

16:02

here, man. They are just they are

16:04

into this shit, aren't they? Well, they

16:06

love that he's foul and dirty and

16:08

we missed his limerick. But let me

16:10

just assure you it was probably bad.

16:12

Yeah. But how about Blue Mini dropping

16:14

a whole lot of LB's? He went

16:16

from a triple XL to an extra

16:18

Schmadium. And then

16:20

the silly gag of Mikey Whipwreck being

16:22

buried up to the neck and the

16:24

waves coming in. Now, what you're seeing

16:27

right now, we should remind you is

16:29

this is Don Callis, the one of

16:31

the head cheeses of impact wrestling these

16:33

days. But in this era, he is

16:35

an on camera performer slash co commentator

16:37

with Joey Styles. He had tried his

16:39

hand with the WWE as a wrestler

16:42

a few years prior. Bruce Prichard crushed

16:44

his hopes and dreams and he carries

16:46

a grudge to this day and thinks

16:48

Bruce is a giant piece of shit. Anyway,

16:53

the deal is he is representing the

16:55

network. He's a heel. So when he

16:57

comes out, as you see, he's got

16:59

the TNN mic cube. The WWE

17:01

had just ink a brand new deal

17:03

to leave USA and come to Viacom. And

17:06

now, even though they were in

17:08

business with ECW, they got

17:10

what they really wanted, which was WWE.

17:12

So it turns out that. TNN

17:14

gave ECW a deal to sort of

17:17

put their toe in the water for the

17:19

wrestling space. And when they got some

17:21

good returns, they felt good enough to make

17:23

a major bid to get the television

17:25

rights for WWE. So they do. So now

17:27

that WWE is coming to the station,

17:29

that means ECW is going to be homeless

17:31

very soon when it comes to their

17:33

television product. And that's about to

17:35

be all she wrote. Wow.

17:38

So done in by a

17:40

bunch of country rednecks.

17:43

Can you believe it? Yeah,

17:45

it turns out Nashville

17:47

tried to once upon a

17:49

time ruin Steve Austin's

17:51

career. With poor pay

17:53

days. And.

17:56

They tried to ruin ECW. Pulling

17:59

the wool out from pulling the rug out

18:01

from under and pulling the wool over their eyes,

18:03

whatever you're pulling, they're pulling things shenanigans. And

18:06

then somehow. TNA

18:08

comes through Nashville, too. I think we

18:10

can agree when it comes to wrestling.

18:14

State of Tennessee is fuck more

18:16

people than anybody. I

18:20

think Don Calais here does not know

18:22

where the hard camera is. If he's

18:24

the network boss, he needs to face

18:26

the hard camera more. OK.

18:30

It's ECW, man. OK. So

18:32

by the way, Blue Meany dropping

18:34

all the LBs. Mm hmm. And that's

18:36

probably some of the most on camera

18:38

speaking he'd ever done an ECW. Mm

18:40

hmm. I think that's a fine job. Anyway,

18:44

he was good. I mean, look, he's a talented

18:46

kid. We know him. We know him very well. Oh,

18:48

by the way, he's got a new podcast with

18:50

great friend of the show, Josh Chernoff. You should go

18:52

check it out. Mind of Meany or Mind of

18:54

Meany. And I'm so, let me

18:56

just tell you, I hate Josh Chernoff.

18:58

I just called him a friend of the

19:00

show, but I hate him because he's

19:02

talented and he's a nice guy and he's

19:04

professional and he tries hard and he's

19:06

a good dude. But that's not

19:08

why I hate him. I hate him. Because

19:10

he somehow has a brother as talented as

19:12

him. They created this killer cartoon. Telling

19:15

a hilarious story about how blue

19:17

meanies gas was once so bad that

19:19

it ruined a car forever. And

19:22

they animated the story. I've heard many tell

19:24

the story and had him tell the story for

19:26

us before at a live show and he

19:28

was a guest of ours. But my God. They

19:31

turned it into a cartoon and I'm just

19:33

I'm fighting mad about it. I've wanted to. Work

19:35

of an animator to tell some of our

19:37

stories here on the show for a long time

19:39

and couldn't find one fucking shernoffs related to

19:41

one bastards. I hate them. So go check it

19:43

out. Go out of your way to find

19:45

it. Mind of many. It's good stuff. When you

19:47

see how good it is, just say, oh,

19:49

I see what I hate them too. I would

19:51

want that. It's

19:54

not always bad to be hated by Conrad. No,

19:56

listen, if I mentioned you on here,

19:58

I probably like you. Yeah, it's like,

20:00

yeah, like, yeah. Yeah.

20:03

And I want to say something

20:05

about, uh, people we hate. Sure. Let's

20:07

talk about a shit. Okay. So,

20:09

uh, our, uh, a

20:11

lot of our, uh, low

20:13

key big hogs are still

20:16

podcasting. Oh yeah. That's a

20:18

shame, isn't it? Yeah. And I was talking to

20:20

our buddy Paul Bromwell the other day and he

20:22

said, man, I'm busy with this podcast. I'm thinking, he

20:25

said, and I talked

20:28

to Damien Purvis and he

20:30

said, yeah, we're, uh, We're

20:33

we're we're we're doing it

20:35

and thanks. Thanks to you and

20:37

Conrad. We're podcast and I'm

20:39

thinking what don't you put that

20:41

evil me Ricky Bobby? What

20:45

the fuck have we started with

20:47

these? I didn't start none of that

20:49

horse. You started all father started

20:51

off. Yeah, I forgot to tell you

20:53

I got I did this interview

20:55

a week or two back. I forget

20:57

but we were talking about You

20:59

know how crazy it was that you

21:01

were back on TV and

21:03

the Bruce was back with WB and I

21:05

said, man, I got to tell you, that's

21:07

the coolest thing about my whole little podcast

21:09

venture. You know, because I just

21:11

fell into this and just started looking for

21:13

opportunities and walking through open doors, as

21:15

they say. And one thing leads to another

21:18

in both of you guys who thought

21:20

you were both done with wrestling and it's

21:22

in your rear view mirror. Through

21:24

the podcast get back into it get

21:26

the fever get the bug get some

21:28

momentum and get big -time jobs paying

21:30

big dollars And you're back where you

21:32

belong and when I said hey man

21:34

if to know that You know my

21:36

silly podcast idea that I sold them

21:38

on had even a small part in

21:40

that them getting back in wrestling Man,

21:42

that's the greatest feeling of all like

21:44

that's such a cool thing to have

21:46

been involved in and then like I

21:48

don't know every third comment was like

21:50

look at this motherfucker Claiming

21:52

credit for getting Tony Shivani back in

21:54

wrestling claiming credit for helping Bruce get

21:56

back in wrestling. And I'm

21:59

thinking. Hey, why don't you fuck

22:01

ask him? Yeah, exactly.

22:03

Here's an idea that ain't me saying

22:05

that. That's Tony Shivani said, God damn, thanks

22:07

for giving me back in this. This

22:09

is fun. Jesus. People

22:11

just shit on anything. Oh, I

22:14

know they do. And that's the reason I

22:16

like to shit on Paul Bromwell and everything

22:18

he does that's saved by the part. What

22:20

the fuck is that? I don't know that

22:22

goddamn Jay Z flair show. Oh. Oh,

22:25

we got Nikita Koloff on this

22:27

week. Oh, I should say cool. Yeah,

22:29

we get it. Hmm. Go

22:32

get a fucking flat top. Nobody cares. Jesus.

22:35

Yeah, just just a bunch of

22:37

goofs with nothing better to

22:39

do. Here's an

22:41

idea. Spend more time with your families. There

22:43

you go. OK. Now,

22:45

in the midst of you and I talking

22:47

about a bunch of goose, what the

22:50

fuck have we been watching here? So it's

22:52

a big promo, a big schmahs. And

22:54

what they're trying to do is, oh, look,

22:56

there goes Sam Ronnie out of security

22:58

in the house. Ronnie,

23:01

go kick some ass in there, buddy. Don't

23:06

you feel like if Ronnie wouldn't

23:08

have gotten to security, he

23:10

would be like a he'd drive

23:12

an 18 wheeler. I

23:15

feel like he would be like the big boss

23:17

on the movie over the top with the rest

23:19

of Stallone. Right. He just he

23:22

wants to drive a big truck and arm

23:24

rest of motherfuckers and dive bars, needle, double

23:26

cheeseburger. Don't

23:29

you think? I agree. I

23:31

mean, listen, Hulk Hogan's running around here,

23:34

saying large arms in the world, having

23:36

a good authority. Atlas

23:38

security has the largest arms in the world.

23:41

Whoa. How about that? Matt

23:45

Kuhn is fucking pissed. That's

23:48

Matt Kuhn and his son, Matthew, who

23:50

just turned 18. Yeah, what are

23:52

you going to do about it? Yeah. He

23:56

calls that the podcast

23:58

Ender. The podcast Ender.

24:01

Matt Kuhn's lost a little weight,

24:03

too. Look at that. A little

24:05

bit. the way, what we've got

24:07

here is Big Salagraziano taking on

24:09

Balls Mahoney. Here comes

24:12

Balls. We've

24:16

seen a lot of

24:18

We've seen a lot of

24:20

balls in the past

24:22

and always kind of liked

24:24

him, you know, I

24:26

know he's not with us

24:28

Man, I

24:31

couldn't stop myself I'm

24:33

a ball watcher. I'm

24:35

a ball watcher. Watch

24:37

ball hits out. Oh,

24:40

fuck you spit on it. Hmm.

24:43

You know what's crazy is I'm

24:47

pretty sure when you see

24:49

this. And no, this was

24:51

20 years ago. Yeah.

24:53

Everyone thinks, well, big

24:56

Sally's going to be the first one to check out here. Right.

25:00

I think he's still with us. He

25:03

may be. But meanwhile, boss

25:05

Mahoney is not. And I

25:07

got to tell you, everybody who worked with him,

25:10

you know, they may have had their

25:12

critiques or some personal choices or

25:14

habits or decisions he made. Mm -hmm,

25:17

but he was supposedly like just one

25:19

of the bubba bubba boys. Mm

25:21

-hmm. Like a good dude. I didn't

25:23

but I heard really really nice things

25:25

about him as a person. Yeah,

25:27

that's good. Sally

25:29

may have found the Keto diet. Oh,

25:32

you ever want to see a guy

25:34

get CTE? There it is. He literally broke

25:36

it. It's in multiple pieces. Oh my

25:38

god. He didn't even flinch.

25:40

No, he didn't go down. Yes,

25:44

I love it. I love

25:46

it picking up in Down he

25:48

goes down he goes. All right

25:50

Chat me up on this you

25:53

said that this this show had

25:55

a lot of Controversy about it.

25:57

Was it because of what we'd

25:59

seen? No, it's coming by the

26:01

way, this is about to be

26:04

the end here. This is about

26:06

to be a finish. Mmm. I

26:10

did A scroll

26:12

ahead and saw when Francine came

26:15

to the brain excited about

26:17

that. Yeah. And I was the

26:19

commentary they did was, oh,

26:21

really, really risk. You couldn't get

26:23

away with it today. Yeah.

26:25

We'll play it. There it is,

26:27

by the way. Here comes

26:29

the ref. Referee

26:31

Jim Molano, who, by

26:33

the way, Joe Gertner had

26:36

the best introduction ever for once

26:38

upon a time. It would

26:40

be like a first, the Dudley's

26:42

wing in and a Rick

26:44

Trent slim trim, blah, blah, blah,

26:46

just, you know, and their

26:48

opponents. And then he would shit

26:50

on them. And then and

26:52

your referee is bald. That's

26:57

a great one. It never gets old. By

26:59

the way, Meltzer gave that a dud rating

27:01

and when I'm one minute 39, he called

27:03

it a basic squash. There

27:05

was. Yeah. Yeah.

27:08

Way to start the pay -per -view. It's

27:13

really a shame that in some circles

27:15

the ECW heat wave pay -per -view is

27:17

being best remembered for a publicity stunt

27:19

by XPW attempting to make its name

27:21

in the wrestling industry on something of

27:24

a national stage, then for a very

27:26

strong ECW show put on. The

27:28

show took place before a crowd

27:30

of approximately 5 ,700 in near sellout,

27:32

though there were free tickets being given

27:34

away in the parking lot before

27:37

the show on July 16th at the

27:39

Grand Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles,

27:41

which due to its national coverage was

27:43

along with Madison Square Garden in

27:45

the Keele and St. Louis, the most

27:47

famous pro wrestling arena in the

27:49

US during the 60s and 70s. Ever

27:51

since the event was announced in

27:54

LA, there were rumors that XPW, a

27:56

Southern California based indie group by

27:58

porn mogul Rob Black patterned after ECW

28:00

that had already been sued for

28:02

trademark infringement and contract interference by ECW

28:04

would cause some sort of disturbance. The

28:07

company actually promised such on its

28:09

website, leading to a ton of concern

28:11

beforehand by ECW. As fans

28:13

were being led into the building, the

28:15

local security laid out the following rules.

28:17

No XPW signs, no blank

28:19

signs. ECW management didn't

28:21

want to give XPW employees or

28:24

fans a chance to create signs

28:26

once inside. and no XBW T -shirts.

28:29

XBW flyers for their show the following Saturday at

28:31

the Sports Arena were on most of the

28:33

car windshields in the parking lot and they were

28:35

being passed around in the building. ECW

28:37

was assisted by a local musician

28:39

named Doc Marley who once worked

28:41

for XBW and assisted ECW security

28:43

in spotting out XBW wrestlers and

28:45

officials as they tried to enter

28:47

the building and all of them

28:49

were thoroughly searched. Jasmine

28:52

St. Clair, the former porn star,

28:54

who had worked for XPW before getting

28:56

into wrestling, but is now the girlfriend

28:58

of Brian Heffron, the blue boy and

29:00

works for ECW also pointed out various

29:03

people associated with XPW around the arena. A

29:06

few XPW wrestlers came wearing company shirts, but

29:08

were forced to turn the shirts inside out.

29:10

And I just got a

29:13

random call from Ronnie Garvin. On

29:17

your phone. Yes, just now. Oh my

29:19

God, it's Bobby Eaton with CW Anderson.

29:21

Oh my God, and here we're talking

29:23

about the porn. What the hell?

29:25

What are we doing? Bobby looking good

29:28

here, man. Bobby eating. What the fuck? Come

29:30

on. I didn't even know he he

29:32

obviously was in ECW. I had no idea.

29:34

Well, he did a couple random one off

29:36

shots, and this is one of them. Okay. I

29:40

do like the Anderson and

29:42

an eating. That's cool.

29:45

Or Simon Diamond. And

29:48

that brings us to this today.

29:51

Yeah, and there he comes. What

29:53

a great gimmick he had to

29:55

Simon says and his old his

29:58

man right here is tag team

30:00

partner Johnny Swinger. Yeah, I remember

30:02

Johnny Johnny was pretty cool He's

30:04

doing a gimmick in TNA right

30:06

now. Is he really? Yep. Just

30:08

learned that. I hadn't been watching

30:10

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30:12

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stuff. Anyway, so the

32:24

XPW dudes are trying

32:26

to get themselves over and

32:28

and get some attention. That's

32:32

what I'd say. At one point, the rest

32:34

of Supreme was wearing a shirt and some

32:36

fans were chanting XPW seeing it. And Atlas

32:38

Security told him he had to turn his

32:40

shirt inside out. He did so. and shook

32:42

the Los Angeles police officer's hands and proceeded

32:44

to pose for photos and son autographs. According

32:46

to one XBW wrestler, before the show started,

32:48

there had been dialogue through an intermediary who

32:50

worked for ECW in New Black and spoke

32:52

with him about the show and the internet

32:54

threat. Black supposedly told him

32:56

there would be no problems at the

32:58

show, but he had purchased $650 worth

33:00

of tickets. ECW didn't

33:03

believe him, hence enforcing the aforementioned rules

33:05

for people coming to the building. XPW

33:08

wrestlers and officials located throughout the building

33:10

cause no incidents for most of the show

33:12

and continue to pose for photos and

33:14

sign some autographs. Although for the most part,

33:16

most of the fans didn't even know

33:18

who they were except for the guys who

33:20

look like local indie wrestlers because Christy

33:23

miss stood out. She's a porn star. People

33:25

were coming up to them for photos and

33:27

autographs as the show went on, particularly in

33:29

between matches. At the end of the Rhino

33:32

Sandman match, Rhino, after winning, drank a beer

33:34

to mock Sandman and threw the beer can

33:36

in the direction of the XBW contingent in

33:38

the front row. Some of

33:40

the suds hit XBW wrestler Supreme,

33:42

who was at ringside with ballet,

33:44

Christie Mist, Jimmy the homeless guy, Chris

33:47

Kloss and Kid Chaos, but

33:50

most drenched a fan sitting next to him.

33:52

Supreme started yelling at Rhino, who

33:54

never acknowledged him. Just as the main

33:56

event with credible and dreamers started the

33:58

crowd started chanting for Francine to take

34:00

her top off Missed an XPW valet

34:02

stood up turned her back to the

34:04

ring and took off her top revealing

34:06

a black leather bra which got a

34:08

huge pop none of which was evident

34:10

watching the show on TV Those near

34:12

her say she was teasing do it

34:14

doing what could be amounted to practice

34:17

tugs at her top at different times

34:19

throughout the show Apparently, ECW officials

34:21

noted it in the middle of the Rob

34:23

Van Dam match, and before she could tease taking

34:25

it off, Francine was in her face about

34:27

trying to steal her heat since Francine was supposed

34:29

to do a spot where she lost her

34:31

top as the focal point of the main event.

34:34

According to one report, Miss Shove Francine

34:36

who shoved her back, Supremes started

34:38

taking off his shirt, although

34:40

most feel it wasn't to fight,

34:42

but to turn the shirt around and

34:44

have the XPW logo visible on

34:47

camera as the commotion broke out. Mist

34:49

went down, XBW officials claimed a

34:51

security guard shoved Supreme who fell into

34:53

mist. Another XBW wrestler

34:55

took off his shirt revealing an

34:57

XBW shirt underneath. The

34:59

camera strangely were showing that there was

35:01

a major commotion for longer than would

35:03

be expected, but not showing what the

35:05

commotion was. The only mention was

35:07

Joey Styles indicating a drunk fan had

35:09

done something to Francine while all the security

35:11

in half the locker room emptied out

35:13

and rushed to that corner of ringside looking

35:15

for a fight. Wisely not

35:18

giving XPW any publicity. So

35:21

how about that? That sounds like

35:23

just like a bunch of outlaws.

35:25

It is in the wild west.

35:27

It is. Meltzer would

35:29

continue the security chase, the XPW wrestlers out

35:31

of the building where Brawl took place

35:33

in the parking lot. Enough of

35:35

the fans realized the fight was going on outside

35:38

that a large percentage of the audience was

35:40

rushed to the back. Then a live crowd at

35:42

largely killed the main event. According

35:44

to numerous witnesses and people involved, the

35:46

ECW contingent greatly outnumbered the XPW contingent,

35:48

and it was a far more violent

35:50

brawl on the street than in the

35:52

arena. Lots of punches, in

35:55

particular, New Jack, Jack

35:57

Victory, Sally Graziano, Roadkill, Chili

35:59

Willy, Mikey Whipwreck, and

36:01

even Paul Heyman. Hold

36:03

on. They're

36:06

outmaned foes. One

36:09

wrestler who was a witness said

36:11

it looked to be 20 ECW on

36:13

seven XPW guy odds until they

36:15

were able to escape in a limo,

36:17

but not before taking a pretty

36:19

bad beating, including an XPW ring crew

36:21

guy, which XPW claims was knocked

36:23

down by a wrestler and then punched

36:25

and stomped on repeatedly by New

36:28

Jack. There were Los

36:30

Angeles police officers watching this, the

36:32

ones working the show. Nobody

36:34

extra was called. No charges were

36:36

filed and nobody was arrested. which

36:38

was also sounding strange, but was explained

36:40

that they were upset at the behavior

36:42

of the XBW crew. And here's the

36:44

word I got. You've

36:47

got fucking a reshoot brawl happening in

36:49

the parking lot where guys are

36:51

getting the shit beat out of them.

36:54

But the cops don't do anything. I know what

36:56

you're thinking. Well, why not? Let's

36:58

remember we're at a wrestling

37:00

show. So when

37:02

we see 20 wrestlers fighting

37:04

seven wrestlers, We're

37:06

probably going to think it's part of

37:09

the show. Right. It's not like they're

37:11

beating up memos and little kids. Right.

37:13

These aren't fans. These are all professional,

37:16

quote, unquote, play

37:18

fighters. I'm not dismissing it, but I'm

37:20

saying they probably think this is

37:22

a production. This isn't real life. Oh,

37:24

no, he's punching him in the

37:26

head for real. They just assume. All

37:29

right. S. S. L. I. And

37:31

that's wrestling. And of course, they're in

37:33

Hollywood, so to speak. Yes. Right.

37:35

So used to seeing shit like this

37:37

and just assume, oh,

37:39

this is just a storyline. This

37:42

is this is very engaging. I

37:45

mean, it's hard. Are we going

37:47

to see parts of any of

37:49

this or did they set it

37:51

up? We'll see a little bit.

37:53

OK. Mr. Right. Paul

37:55

Heyman after the show said he

37:57

couldn't comment on anything because he

37:59

expected it would turn into a legal

38:01

situation. It's considered that both sides

38:03

were considering legal action against the

38:06

other ECW for XPW's alleged attempting

38:08

to interfere with a live television broadcast

38:10

and XPW outright set a lawsuit

38:12

should be expected within the week.

38:14

Claiming their attacks inside and outside

38:16

or physically unprovoked and excessive. They

38:19

posted a big thing. I

38:21

also would say quote unquote baby

38:23

facing themselves. And

38:25

he says Rob Black, the owner, went

38:27

even more out of control later in

38:29

the week, challenging ECW to send five

38:31

wrestlers for a shoot fight UFC style,

38:34

claiming that ECW only beat up

38:36

ring crew guys and not

38:39

only the wrestlers, but Bragg

38:41

that missed can be seen performing in

38:43

porn videos, which I guess makes her

38:45

better than Francine. I

38:48

should mention that I

38:50

know that sounds silly. But

38:52

both ECW and XPW

38:54

are leveraging adult films like

38:56

Rob Black really owned

38:58

a porn company called Extreme

39:00

Associates. And this was

39:02

a company that had federal

39:04

situations on their hands because

39:06

some of the stuff was

39:08

so over the top. Like.

39:12

They said this crosses the

39:14

line with that. They

39:17

were known

39:19

for vomit. No,

39:22

simulated rape. Oh,

39:24

yeah. He

39:26

had to be he had to spend some

39:28

time in jail. So there's a lot of

39:30

stuff going on, right? And so in the

39:32

middle of all of this, where they're trying

39:34

to sort of get their name and what

39:36

they're doing, by the way, calling themselves I

39:38

mean, the name of the foreign company was

39:40

extreme associates. They wanted to call themselves XPW

39:42

like extreme wrestling. Well, that

39:44

sure sounds an awful lot like

39:47

extreme championship wrestling. Mm

39:49

hmm. And then they started to hire guys

39:51

who were upset or pissed off with Paul

39:53

Heyman, including Sabu. So like at the time

39:55

this happened, Sabu is not with ECW. He's

39:57

with XPW, but he doesn't participate in any

39:59

of the shenanigans where he's going to go

40:01

sit front row or anything like that. But

40:04

his idea was, hey,

40:06

let's get some of some of

40:08

our porn girls from our porn production

40:10

company to be valets in the

40:12

wrestling. And

40:14

on the surface, that sounds like, well, I

40:16

don't know about that. But then you realize.

40:18

What videos do best for wrestling promotions on

40:20

YouTube even in 2020? And you're like, well,

40:22

turns out guys will pay for that. Yeah.

40:25

And I mean, even even ECW in this

40:28

era, they're chanting things like show your

40:30

tits at Francine. That would never happen now.

40:32

But back then that was just like

40:34

a regular every show champ that people did.

40:36

Oh, yeah. Well, I know. Well, now we've

40:39

got real porn stars who are doing

40:41

ungodly unspeakable things that the government doesn't even

40:43

want them to do them. So

40:45

yeah, you could, you know,

40:48

Have a look and see what that's like if you're

40:50

into that. And that's the idea.

40:52

But of course, as you could expect,

40:54

this did not work out, which is

40:56

why you've never heard of XPW. No,

40:58

not at all. I just. And

41:01

now the XPW staff is

41:03

front row ringside. There's

41:05

some of the wrestlers and whatnot are

41:07

right there. OK, not across from

41:09

us, right? To the left. To

41:12

the left. OK. Front row ringside

41:14

to the left. OK, well, we'll

41:16

keep an eye out. This is.

41:18

That's an incredible story. I mean

41:20

this this almost sounds like old

41:22

-timey, you know back when and

41:24

you know, I've talked to a

41:26

lot of Older gentlemen who have

41:28

been in wrestling me being one

41:30

of them but older than me

41:32

That said back in the old

41:34

days they used to take over

41:37

territories by gunpoint in the old

41:39

days and That sounds like to

41:41

me trying to take over a

41:43

promotion really this is crazy It

41:45

gets even crazier, man. That's

41:47

not even the craziest story with

41:49

XBW. The craziest story is

41:52

apparently Rob married one of his

41:54

adult film stars. So the

41:56

guy who owns the rival promotion.

41:59

Mm hmm. I believe

42:01

married or at least lived

42:03

with one of his

42:05

top female performers on the

42:07

adult side of things. Allegedly,

42:12

according to the rumor and innuendo. one

42:14

of his top acts

42:16

for XPW started to have

42:18

physical relations with her.

42:20

Okay. And when Mr.

42:22

Black, his boss, found out about it,

42:24

he was not happy about it. I

42:26

understand that. So he sent a couple

42:28

of guys to his apartment to cut

42:31

his dick off. Did

42:36

they succeed? They

42:39

did not cut his pecker off.

42:41

Okay. But they did cut some

42:43

stuff off. And it was a

42:45

horrific brawl. And I have asked

42:48

and begged and pleaded and tried

42:50

to sell the guys at Dark

42:52

Side of the Ring that if

42:54

they do a vice season three,

42:56

we have to get an episode

42:58

about XFW. What

43:00

a story. It's

43:02

got my attention. I can

43:05

tell you that, man. I mean,

43:07

here's what's great. This

43:09

is what happens in indie promotions. Meanwhile.

43:12

But WWE and WCW Vince hires Eric

43:14

Bischoff to make out with his

43:17

wife and daughter. All

43:20

right, S. S. L. I. M.

43:22

That's Rastlin. Well, I'm

43:24

glad to say that happy

43:26

to say that we have

43:28

evolved in in the 20

43:30

years. All

43:32

the right ways. Meanwhile, Conrad, we've

43:35

seen some pretty spectacular bumps in

43:37

this match. What is

43:39

a good match? So as a reminder, what we're

43:41

watching is Danny Doring teaming up with Ro Kill

43:43

and Kid Cash. They're going to

43:45

take on Simon Diamond, Swinger and CW

43:47

Anderson. They're going to go 11 minutes

43:49

and three seconds. Meltzer really likes

43:51

it. Gave it three and a quarter stars. Yeah,

43:53

that was some good stuff. I saw Johnny Swinger

43:55

do some stuff and I guess cash did some

43:58

pretty good stuff as well. You

44:00

know, I believe CW

44:02

Anderson retired on Facebook last

44:04

month. He gave a

44:06

pretty hard felt. Speech

44:10

and all the comments and likes and

44:12

all of that made me think it

44:14

was real. I thought the end was

44:16

a little off Maybe he was just

44:18

overcome with emotion for real, but I

44:20

was like felt a little weird I

44:22

sent it to my group chat who

44:24

we've now nicknamed the sad news bears

44:26

and More than one sad news bear

44:28

said oh, this is just an angle.

44:30

This is a word, but I'm not

44:32

convinced because guys like Chris Cruz were

44:34

like Hey man, you did a great

44:36

job. You should be proud About

44:38

whatever and I do think CW

44:41

Anderson Was probably born at the

44:43

wrong time If he's 10 years

44:45

older, I think he would have

44:47

been a big part of the

44:49

NWA and what you guys were

44:51

doing. Yeah, if he's 10 years

44:53

younger, I think he'd be I

44:55

Mean goddamn he could be the

44:57

other member of the revival. Mm

45:00

-hmm revival wanted to do a

45:02

six -man Yeah, I agree with all

45:04

that I agree with all that

45:06

and if I also feel

45:08

that if I got a comment from Chris Cruz,

45:10

I would want to kill myself. Oh, my bad.

45:12

I don't mean to say Chris Cruz. Fuck him.

45:14

I was just thinking about people I hate to

45:16

guess. I'm not sure. Yeah. I meant

45:18

to say Scott Hudson. Scott Hudson

45:20

on Facebook and I saw Scott make a

45:22

comment. So I was like, wait a minute.

45:24

Is he saying that to CW Anderson? What's

45:26

he doing? Yeah,

45:31

I get that. Well, look at this, man. Hey,

45:33

that was a big move for

45:35

2000. Yes, it was and it

45:37

was act. It was executed quite

45:39

well. Danny during over the top

45:41

onto three guys waiting. And of

45:43

course, road kills trying to send

45:45

cash drops down springboard. I was

45:47

a big time bump right there.

45:49

Yes, it was. And again, I

45:51

mean, the fans are just eating

45:53

the eating this the fuck up

45:55

again. Just really done well now.

45:58

No, wait a second. His big

46:00

guy going to look at this

46:02

tease from road kill. He

46:05

looks like Casio kid right here. He's

46:08

skinnier and Casio kid. Oh,

46:13

well, there you go. You

46:16

didn't think he was going to flip that, did you?

46:18

I didn't know what he was. You know, you

46:21

know, I didn't follow ECW

46:23

and I just it. Nothing

46:26

surprised me with them. Oh, man, I'm so

46:28

excited. I forgot to remind you, guess what

46:30

we're doing next week? What

46:33

watching a little person beat

46:35

off in a trash. Oh

46:37

god. We've been talking about

46:39

that for weeks Goddamn, I

46:41

love this show. We get

46:43

to watch little people walk

46:45

it off walk walk it

46:47

off, you know, try and

46:49

call it right then. Yeah

46:51

Yeah, we just saw pretty

46:53

good Alabama jam there from

46:55

who was that who's that

46:57

the purple is that cash?

46:59

That's Danny Doring It's Danny

47:01

Dorn in the purple rolling

47:03

around on the ground. Yeah.

47:05

Yeah. Okay. See, here's the

47:07

deal. I'm colorblind Tony. Okay. Things like

47:09

purple. I'm just having to guess. Okay.

47:13

Oh, that's a I

47:15

wouldn't want to take that ball. Hmm.

47:19

Yeah, these four six guys are

47:22

actually putting on a pretty good

47:24

show for us here. I used

47:26

to be convinced in this era,

47:28

kid cash was going to be

47:30

their top guy. He

47:32

would be like the

47:34

next Jerry Lynn the next

47:36

Rob Van Damme man.

47:38

Look at that spine buster

47:40

By the way, I

47:42

think if I have this

47:44

right I Think kid

47:46

cash might be a listener

47:49

to this show. Oh

47:51

kid cash. Hey, we we

47:53

respect you buddy He

47:55

had a great comment about

47:57

Who belonged in wrestling

47:59

and didn't belong in wrestling

48:01

a few months ago

48:03

when all of the allegations

48:05

about sexual misconduct happened. And

48:08

I was like, holy shit, I didn't know Kid

48:10

Cash was on Twitter. So I immediately

48:12

followed him and immediately we DM'd back and forth.

48:14

And I got the indication that he actually listens

48:16

to the show and he picks up the win

48:18

there with quite the finisher. But look at that,

48:20

dude. Don't you? Are you convinced coming out of

48:22

this? He's a bigger star. Oh,

48:24

yeah. Look at the crowd. Crowds are way

48:26

into it. They're eating his

48:28

ass up, man. I mean, I

48:31

really was convinced, man. He's the

48:33

next Rob Van Damme, Jerry Lynn. Like,

48:36

hey, I have a good look. I'm a

48:38

great technical wrestler, but I can do all kinds

48:40

of crazy big stuff, too. Yeah.

48:42

And he don't from from he

48:44

looks as a Jerry Lynn look

48:46

about anything. That's

48:49

a good look, man. Yeah, it is. And that

48:51

big flip into the crowd. I know

48:53

people now say, let's see that every Wednesday. Well,

48:55

nobody saw it ever in 2000.

48:57

Chris Cash. Got it over, man.

49:00

Mm -hmm. Chris Cash, Kid Cash.

49:02

Chris Cash is a different restaurant.

49:04

Oh, Rhino. This is

49:06

gonna be a bad promo. Your wife in

49:08

the fucking hospital! I like

49:10

hearing how your kids

49:12

stand over a hospital bed

49:15

and her neck in

49:17

traction and her laying on

49:19

her back in that

49:21

hospital. Just reekin' of the

49:23

rotten stench of her

49:25

cash. Sandman, keep

49:28

on coming after me. You

49:30

know what? Bring everything you

49:32

possibly can bring to the

49:34

ring, Sandman. Because you

49:36

know what? It doesn't matter

49:39

what you bring. Because

49:41

I'm not laying down. I'm

49:43

not giving this belt

49:46

up, Sandman. This is my

49:48

meaning and life. You

49:50

think I'm giving it up?

49:52

No. Why? Because I'm

49:54

the big fucking deal. The

49:56

ECW World Television Champion.

49:59

Rhino! Come on, Simon! Come

50:01

on, you want it!

50:03

Come on! Come on,

50:05

Simon! Come on! What

50:12

the fuck? What

50:16

the hell, man? I

50:36

mean, listen,

50:41

Heyman was producing all of that. I

50:44

blame Rhino for nothing that

50:46

was said right there. It's probably

50:48

exactly how they asked him

50:50

to do it and what they

50:52

wanted him to say. And

50:54

he did. Mm -hmm, but I'll

50:56

never forget when that air just

50:58

being like fucking really Like

51:00

I'm 19 and even I'm like

51:03

really Oh Holy shit, man

51:05

her gash reeked Like who even

51:07

said the word gash like

51:09

I feel like you had to

51:11

be born in the 50s.

51:13

Yeah, these dames today in their

51:15

gash Oh,

51:19

man, Jerry looks good, doesn't by the way,

51:21

you want to talk about a fucking clinic?

51:23

You're about to see why ECW still had

51:25

hardcore fans. This is going to be a

51:27

bad ass match. The King of Old School,

51:29

Steve Carino, taking on the

51:32

new fucking show. Jerry Lynn,

51:34

they get plenty of time, 15

51:36

minutes, 25 seconds. Meltzer was

51:38

a low key hater. I gave it

51:40

three and a quarter stars. But there is

51:42

a spot in here that you are going

51:44

to fucking love. Okay. So

51:46

three and three quarter stars is

51:48

hater. Well, this is better than

51:50

that. Okay. All right. I get

51:53

it. My point is if this

51:55

match happens in Japan, I love

51:57

it. Your balls about that. It's

51:59

very saying for three years and

52:01

I just couldn't wait to eventually

52:03

use it on you. Couldn't

52:06

say it without laughing. There

52:09

you go. By the way, I heard

52:11

you chuckle earlier. I bet one of

52:13

your favorite wrestler names of all time

52:15

is. Homeless Jimmy. When

52:18

you said that, I'm thinking, was it

52:20

really a wrestler or really just homeless

52:22

guy? They brought in with him. You

52:24

know, I fucked it up. It's it's

52:26

Jimmy, the homeless guy. It doesn't matter.

52:29

Just you were homeless before, after the

52:31

name. It all had the same effect.

52:33

Dude, one of the best jokes I

52:35

ever heard was, um, this

52:37

is an awful joke. Oh,

52:39

the best thing about dating homeless girls, you

52:41

can drop her off anywhere. It's

52:47

such a terrible joke. It's so bad.

52:50

It's funny. Oh, Jesus. Oh,

52:54

well, we do. We

52:56

do silly humor here on the show. Yes, we

52:58

do. You don't have to explain that. No,

53:01

you don't have to explain it. I

53:03

know. They

53:05

know, they know, they know.

53:07

So here we got. And

53:10

I. You know, I see Jerry every

53:12

other week now and he's kicking ass here,

53:15

isn't he? Yeah, he's such a great

53:17

guy. And, you know, he's really gone through

53:19

some health problems. And he and I

53:21

have talked about that, about the crazy bumps

53:23

he used to take and crazy things

53:25

he used to do and how, you know,

53:27

obviously he's paying for it now in

53:30

his later years, but he is such, Jerry

53:33

is such a great human. He

53:35

is. He's a good man and

53:37

really have a lot of time

53:39

for him always. Can you imagine

53:41

if he was a political. Jack

53:44

off. What he could

53:46

have done in the business. Mm hmm.

53:48

Yeah. I'm just saying like. He

53:51

is one of those like. Nice

53:54

to a fault, guys. Right. Well,

53:57

you just can't help but wonder if he pulled

53:59

some of the political shenanigans that we've heard guys like

54:01

triple H have done over the years. Mm

54:03

hmm. I mean, he'd

54:05

be running, wrestling, running. Oh, yeah.

54:08

Wow. Wow.

54:11

How about that, Bert? Yeah,

54:13

where are you on time? Give me your time. I'm

54:16

a little behind you based on

54:18

your reaction because you just saw

54:20

that tornado DDT off the rail

54:22

onto the floor. Give me your

54:24

timecode and I'll catch up. 42,

54:26

12, 13, 14, 15, 16,

54:28

17. We're on the money.

54:31

See, we see them sliding back

54:34

in the ring here. That

54:37

was a hell of a tornado DDT,

54:39

but yeah, you're right Jerry open a crimson

54:41

mask. Oh my god You

55:09

know it when you see

55:12

it and you will have a

55:14

reaction, okay? This

55:16

spot right here stand in the corner

55:18

punch him in the head ten times That

55:21

left 10 years too late.

55:24

Mm hmm. Oh, oh,

55:27

power bomb onto a chair. Oh,

55:30

man.

55:34

And Carino is pouring buckets. You

55:36

know, we often talk about all that's

55:38

old school. Well, he was calling himself the

55:40

king of old school, even here in

55:42

2000. He's got the old Austin Hall kind

55:44

of boots on. Very

55:46

Wyndham, Dustin Rhodes, Dusty Rhodes,

55:49

Esk. Mm -hmm, but and even

55:51

the match I'm in for that

55:53

matter, but he has He has

55:55

a crimson mask as Gordon Sully

55:57

would say good God. I mean,

55:59

you know they guys with blonde

56:01

hair always showed off the blood

56:03

better. Oh, I mean obviously, you

56:05

know flair was the master at

56:07

that But I mean this is

56:09

kind of flair esque right here

56:11

the blood. Oh big time. Yeah,

56:13

God Somebody say something about a

56:16

blade job Oh,

56:23

Jesus. Can

56:25

you imagine what that would sound like? That

56:28

old promoter come over said, Tommy,

56:30

we're going to need to get some color tonight.

56:33

I said, I'm going to need to get paid

56:35

a little more. You think you reckon you could

56:37

pay me a little more? I

56:39

got the blade right here. I'll either put it back

56:41

in my bag or I'll tape it to my finger. You

56:43

tell me what you're going to do. That

56:49

you know that conversation has happened, right? Oh,

56:51

of course it has. You know what? The

56:53

next time we do a low key big

56:55

hug get together and the world is back

56:57

to normal and people can travel again. We

57:00

need to book Tommy

57:02

Rich on Alabama return match.

57:04

Are you OK? Yeah,

57:07

I got some equipment here that fell. Go ahead.

57:09

I'm sorry. Did Lois just fall? No,

57:11

no, you would have been bigger

57:13

than that. I'm

57:16

going to get rid of these speakers. But

57:18

anyway, yeah, you know, can I

57:20

really rain on your parade on that?

57:23

What are you raining on? No,

57:25

the world will never be back to normal.

57:28

We'll never we'll never get together again. No,

57:31

we're getting back together. No, we're not off

57:33

the robot. All right. And let me

57:35

finish here. When Tommy

57:37

Rich comes back and Cassio kid

57:39

brings him over to the boot,

57:41

which is our favorite dive bar

57:43

inside a by the hour motel. But

57:46

it's. Tremendous. It's my favorite

57:48

hangout in Huntsville. I go

57:50

two days a week. But

57:52

my point is I'm going

57:54

to ask Tommy before we

57:56

go in. You think

57:58

we can get some color tonight? And

58:02

just see what he says. Can

58:05

you imagine if in

58:07

the middle of our

58:09

visit, he started fussing

58:11

with Ed about the bill? And

58:14

went to give him a DDT on the floor

58:16

and he came up. We

58:19

got to get rich at

58:21

a bar. We got to do that.

58:24

I think Tommy Rich kind of become one of

58:26

us, hasn't he? You know, one of our. Oh,

58:28

for sure. Yeah. One of our low key, big

58:30

hog kind of guys. Let me just say this.

58:32

If I'm at that show, I don't want to

58:34

be arguing with a guy covered in blood. No, I

58:37

don't want to. And

58:39

it's not because I think it's going to

58:41

hurt me. It's because of his goddamn blood

58:43

on me. Right. I just I don't

58:45

it. But I guess, you know, the rabbit fan to

58:47

it right up against it. They don't give a shit. And

58:51

I mean, he has been

58:53

bleeding for multiple minutes here now.

58:57

Holy shit. Yeah. And think about this.

58:59

We're all wearing masks right now. He's

59:02

bleeding on motherfuckers. Drop with

59:04

that. My ass. Which

59:06

brings me back to my point

59:08

that we look this forever.

59:10

Everything sucks. Tony, I'm negative.

59:13

Yeah, no, we're not getting back. Everything's

59:15

gonna be fine, Tony. No, it's

59:17

not. God damn it. Being optimistic. You

59:19

know, you've been doing this our whole fucking relationship

59:21

and it all works out better than you thought.

59:24

What? Being negative. Being

59:26

a realist. No, you're always negative.

59:28

And I try to get you to

59:31

speak positive shit into existence. I

59:33

mean, you used to say you'll never hire

59:35

me. I'll never work in wrestling again. Now

59:39

what, motherfucker? Well,

59:42

you know, it's on your phone more

59:44

than lowest this. I was

59:46

I was really wrong there. And

59:48

other times. OK, you didn't

59:50

think this podcast would work. You didn't think anybody

59:52

would buy a t -shirt. You didn't think hand

59:54

free shows would work. You didn't think anybody would

59:57

want to come to a low key big target

59:59

together. You didn't think that your son did have

1:00:01

a birthday this past weekend, but he did. And

1:00:04

happy birthday, Matt. I

1:00:06

forgot to text you into it right now and

1:00:08

I'm busy. So I hope

1:00:10

you listen. And you

1:00:12

get the message that I wished

1:00:14

you a happy birthday. I

1:00:17

didn't get you confused with Chris, which I

1:00:19

often do. I

1:00:22

just remember one of you started one of his

1:00:24

mouthier. I'll let you figure out who's

1:00:26

who. Still,

1:00:29

I. not

1:00:32

trying to be negative. I

1:00:35

have no trust in anyone

1:00:37

and authority in the United

1:00:39

States of America. None. Trust

1:00:41

in me. Trust in me. All

1:00:43

right. None. Look

1:00:47

at his hair. Look

1:00:49

at his face. I can't. This this

1:00:51

may be one of the better blade

1:00:53

jobs we've ever seen ever. So

1:00:55

we couldn't get over the top rope. I'm

1:00:57

not mad at him. He's a court low.

1:00:59

And look at the people who usually are

1:01:01

kind of rapid. They're like going, what the

1:01:03

fuck are we looking at? What's a horror

1:01:05

movie? Oh, Jesus. Have

1:01:08

we seen the spot yet you're

1:01:10

talking about? No, you won't. You will

1:01:12

not mistake it. OK, it is one

1:01:14

of the more iconic ECW moments ever

1:01:16

happened when they were on roller skates. I'm

1:01:22

when I see when I see Jerry, I've got

1:01:24

got to talk to him about this match. Oh,

1:01:27

God. I don't

1:01:29

want to take a DDT like that.

1:01:31

Hmm. I don't want

1:01:33

to be a pro wrestler, Tony. This

1:01:35

feels like this would hurt. Yeah,

1:01:37

I'm thinking if I'm Steve Carino, I don't

1:01:39

kick out there. Fuck it. I agree.

1:01:41

I'm like, you know what? I'm

1:01:44

done. All right, track it. Steve Carino showing

1:01:46

a lot more flight than any of us gave

1:01:48

him credit for. What

1:01:50

in the world? my.

1:02:01

Joey. I'm

1:02:03

going to be sick right about now. You

1:02:08

see what Jerry Lin is writing on his

1:02:10

own body with Carino's blood? He

1:02:13

just wrote. He wrote

1:02:15

the word. Can

1:02:17

you believe what

1:02:20

we just saw?

1:02:23

Oh, oh, my. Oh, you

1:02:25

know what? I hate to say this, but I

1:02:27

fucking loved it. It's the coolest fucking. Visual

1:02:30

it and you know what it

1:02:32

had to it had to be ad

1:02:34

-libbed had to be yes Fuck pretty

1:02:37

good back kick too, dude. I'm

1:02:39

telling you if Steve Carino and Jerry

1:02:41

Lynn were 10 years younger their

1:02:43

main eventing I don't know if it's

1:02:45

Monday Wednesday or Friday night But

1:02:47

I know that's where they'd be and

1:02:49

this is just one of those

1:02:51

times where at the moment If you

1:02:53

weren't the rock or stone cold

1:02:55

or Bill Goldberg or Hulk Hogan or

1:02:57

Ric Flair it just wasn't happening

1:02:59

But right now, today, Steve

1:03:01

Carino would have headlined an AEW

1:03:04

or WWE pay -per -view within the last

1:03:06

year, and him and Jerry

1:03:08

Lynn would be main eventing on Monday, Wednesday,

1:03:10

Friday, whatever. You

1:03:13

know, here's the deal, man. As a kid, we

1:03:15

all loved eating cereal, but then we grow up

1:03:17

and we realize I need protein in the morning,

1:03:19

not sugar. But what if

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to the dream. My

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God. Is this it? No,

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it's still going. Yeah.

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You know, I'm telling you right now,

1:04:24

I that that. And when he's

1:04:26

when he put the D on, he's, you know,

1:04:28

I knew what was coming. Yeah. Dude. And

1:04:30

what a fucking cool moment that is. When

1:04:33

wrestling is good, there ain't nothing better, baby.

1:04:35

And that's this show has a couple of

1:04:37

those moments. And that was one of them

1:04:39

where it's like, oh, my God. Boy,

1:04:43

I got a great conversation coming up

1:04:45

with Jerry this week. I can't wait.

1:04:48

Oh, God. Well. I

1:04:52

love stories like this. Steve Carino be trusted.

1:04:54

He's friends with Jeff Jones. Oh,

1:04:57

yeah. Well, yeah. And then he works

1:04:59

with Terry Taylor. He'll have

1:05:01

a choice in that. You know what I mean? Well,

1:05:03

Terry Taylor's getting shoved down his throat like

1:05:05

we were in 88 with the Red Rooster. Yeah.

1:05:07

Well, yeah, you'd have a choice. You see

1:05:09

Terry, you run his head into a door and

1:05:11

then you keep walking. Look at this shit. Jack

1:05:14

Victory holding a bag of powder. Oh,

1:05:18

he hit the referee. Dude.

1:05:24

Of course, there's nobody there to make the

1:05:26

count. Looks like Jerry Lynn has it

1:05:28

clearly won. But the rep

1:05:30

literally took a powder. Steve

1:05:35

Carino has been bleeding so long, it's

1:05:37

finally. It's

1:05:39

finally plotted up. He's not bleeding. By

1:05:41

the way, Meltzer said Carino's used heavily

1:05:43

early and his bleached hair turned red.

1:05:45

Victory interfered a lot. Lynn ended up

1:05:47

taking Carino's blood and smearing it all

1:05:49

over his own body like war paint

1:05:51

on his face and spilling dye on

1:05:53

stomach. Now that was

1:05:55

rather sickening. Lots of false finishes

1:05:58

with Victor interfering before Lynch hit the cradle

1:06:00

pile driver. Only complaint is the match was

1:06:02

slightly long and dragged to the middle. See,

1:06:04

I disagree. Yeah,

1:06:07

I do too. I think this is

1:06:09

every bit of foreign something. I understand

1:06:11

not giving it five, but

1:06:13

golly, are you not emotionally invested

1:06:15

in what's happening right now? No,

1:06:17

no, you're right. You're right. The

1:06:20

match, a good wrestling match, I

1:06:22

really think cannot be. Bam,

1:06:25

bam, bam, bam, all the time. Right.

1:06:27

There's got to be slow moments. There's got

1:06:29

to be moments where the kids are

1:06:31

selling or the kids are doing something. I

1:06:33

just let it breathe, baby. Let it

1:06:35

breathe. Absolutely. Let it breathe. Very well said.

1:06:37

The lowest ever tell you that. Honey,

1:06:39

we got to get home. I got to let it breathe. She

1:06:43

ever say that? No.

1:06:47

Of the many things she has said to me,

1:06:49

that's not been one of them. I

1:06:51

mean, and I'm thankful for that. You

1:06:53

know what it means. Let it breathe. No.

1:06:55

And I wouldn't know what it meant when she said it.

1:06:58

However, I do like always have like guys

1:07:00

on their knees, lugging it out. I

1:07:02

always thought that was a good, pretty cool.

1:07:04

That's like, we're so spent. We can't

1:07:06

get on our feet, but we're still going

1:07:08

to hit each other. I'm always like,

1:07:10

how about the boot came off? He's still

1:07:12

wrestling. I've always liked that little drop

1:07:14

down. The way Cody won the world's title.

1:07:16

Hmm. How about that? This

1:07:19

is good old school, great

1:07:21

wrestling in the middle of a

1:07:23

fucking bloody brawl. Look at the

1:07:25

crowd. Yep. Dude,

1:07:27

I'm telling you, these are fucking top guys right

1:07:29

here. And I know because they

1:07:31

were top guys at the end of

1:07:33

ECW, you guys were like, well, but now

1:07:35

fuck your well, but these guys were

1:07:37

bad ass. And I would argue they're much

1:07:39

better wrestlers than a generation before with

1:07:41

guys like Sandman and Raven and Sabu. I'm

1:07:43

not saying those guys weren't great characters

1:07:45

and great innovators. But once the bell rings,

1:07:47

let me watch that shit. That was

1:07:49

outstanding. At least four stars for

1:07:51

me. It was 15 minutes, 25 seconds.

1:07:53

Didn't feel like it to me. Would

1:07:56

it melt or give it three and some

1:07:58

three and a quarter? Oh, no, no, no. He

1:08:00

missed it. He's not always right, as we

1:08:02

know, but he really is his opinion. You know,

1:08:04

there's no right or wrong. It's just his

1:08:06

opinion. Yeah. I'm

1:08:09

allowed to have one, too. That shit was awesome.

1:08:11

Yeah. I'm

1:08:14

so happy we're watching this together, man.

1:08:16

I love watching wrestling with you. I

1:08:19

love watching things

1:08:21

I missed. And

1:08:24

obviously, I missed because in 2000, I

1:08:26

was calling shit. Well, but there's some shit

1:08:28

here, too. There's a lot. I mean,

1:08:30

and here's the thing, WWE was not that

1:08:32

great in 2000. You

1:08:34

heard a couple of little inside references

1:08:36

there to start the show from Dr.

1:08:38

James Mitchell. Here's the replay. You want

1:08:40

to call it, Tony? Up on

1:08:42

jump is Jerry Flynn. Take a look at what he's

1:08:44

doing here. He's diving. He's coming across all. He sends

1:08:46

both of them down. My God, it's

1:08:48

Steve Carino. He's a bloody mess.

1:08:51

Later, he will be. Here

1:08:53

comes the tornado DDT, I do believe.

1:08:57

Oh, did you see? Did you see? Did

1:09:00

you see him grab the blade out of his

1:09:02

hand? Oh, my God. Oh, God, you could see

1:09:04

it. There he cuts himself as he went down.

1:09:07

Oh, God, we're not going to rewind

1:09:09

it, but go back and look. You

1:09:12

could see him grab his blade. Oh,

1:09:16

man. Got to

1:09:18

give me credit, man. He Dustin Rhodes. Oh,

1:09:20

my God. It's like Dustin

1:09:22

did it double or nothing last

1:09:24

year. Back

1:09:26

when everybody was normal. It

1:09:29

was a fucking great show, man. I

1:09:32

think it's kind of cool that the first set of

1:09:34

figures you all are doing at A .W. But

1:09:36

they're all wearing their outfits from that show.

1:09:38

I just realized that this week. Yeah, that's pretty

1:09:41

cool. We got to go. We got a

1:09:43

good, good working relationship with those good guys.

1:09:45

They are good guys. And I think me and

1:09:47

you are going to be doing some stuff

1:09:49

with them here pretty soon here on the program.

1:09:52

I'm not normally a figure collector, but

1:09:54

what soon as they announced those, you

1:09:56

know, just because of my relationship with

1:09:58

some of the guys and the idea

1:10:00

that, you know, they're all wearing their

1:10:02

gear from that first show, which which

1:10:04

we participated with with Starcast and you

1:10:06

actually got to set ringside. I

1:10:09

knew I wanted them, but. Then

1:10:11

I actually got to work with the

1:10:13

folks who were, you know, making

1:10:15

the damn things and their top notch

1:10:17

like they're one of us, man,

1:10:19

big wrestling fans, big collectors,

1:10:22

great guys, excited to be working with

1:10:24

them. Yeah, me too. And, you

1:10:27

know, I need to. Say

1:10:29

something about being ringside a double

1:10:31

or nothing back in. Oh,

1:10:35

yeah, 2019. That

1:10:37

was kind of a surreal moment for me. And

1:10:42

I think about that moment often. And

1:10:46

I think about how

1:10:48

you, you know, because I think

1:10:50

we talked about this before. I didn't want

1:10:52

to go to that show. Correct. Because

1:10:55

I just didn't want to go. I didn't want

1:10:57

to be, I didn't want to, I didn't want to

1:10:59

be, I didn't want to be seen there. It's

1:11:01

not that you don't, by the way, watch what

1:11:03

Ryan was about to do right here. Okay. All right.

1:11:06

Holy, oh my God. That's Sandman's wife

1:11:08

with a pile driver off the apron

1:11:10

through the floor to the concrete, no

1:11:12

padding. Oh, God. And of course, he's trying

1:11:14

to talk to her and check on her and they should have

1:11:16

worked on that a little sooner. Right. But,

1:11:20

dude, would you take

1:11:22

a pile driver off the apron through a table

1:11:24

to a concrete floor? No. Now,

1:11:26

if you were a woman. No,

1:11:28

I'd let my wife lowest, but I

1:11:30

wouldn't do it. That's different. I'm kidding. Jesus,

1:11:34

criminy. I mean, she just. This

1:11:38

is some horrible shit. Is that

1:11:40

Carino again bleeding? No,

1:11:43

this is from another night, buddy. Oh,

1:11:45

yeah, but he's bleeding again from another

1:11:47

night. Yes. It's just some

1:11:49

bitch can bleed. Look, they're going to

1:11:51

pick the corpse up, hold it in front

1:11:53

of the table so he could go

1:11:56

and say, man, literally just gave Ron a

1:11:58

CTE right in front of us. I

1:12:09

go through the table with his wife

1:12:11

in his arms. Oh,

1:12:14

ECW ECW ECW.

1:12:16

But look at

1:12:18

the fans. Oh,

1:12:20

they're all into it because nobody knows what

1:12:22

to think. I know. There's like, what the

1:12:24

fuck? Have we just. All

1:12:26

right, let's try. All right. Right now, you've

1:12:29

speared my wife through a

1:12:31

table. You've piled

1:12:33

driven my wife from the apron

1:12:35

through a table to the

1:12:37

floor Put her in the hospital

1:12:40

How do you think I feel when

1:12:42

I have to take my kids to

1:12:44

see my wife in a hospital for

1:12:46

seven straight weeks? I had a tear

1:12:48

in my eye every single time I

1:12:50

walked into that hospital. My kids

1:12:52

were crying also. You know how that

1:12:54

makes me feel, Rhino? You know what

1:12:56

that makes me want to do to

1:12:58

you? How do you think I feel

1:13:00

when every night I put my kids

1:13:02

to bed and the last thing that

1:13:04

comes out of their mouth is, Daddy,

1:13:06

when's Mommy gonna come home? Rhino?

1:13:09

I am getting ready to

1:13:11

take you to a new level

1:13:13

of extreme. Tony,

1:13:30

describe what just happened. Big

1:13:34

old guy hit a

1:13:36

guy in the head with

1:13:38

a kendo stick giving

1:13:41

him CTE and grabbed his

1:13:43

wife the sticker head

1:13:45

down the toilet And of

1:13:47

course they shut the

1:13:49

door Rhino is off the

1:13:51

fucking chain man. Oh

1:13:53

Lord this whole fucking shows

1:13:56

off the fucking show

1:13:58

The show would derail a

1:14:00

long time ago and to

1:14:03

boot as you've well you told

1:14:05

the story. There's shit

1:14:07

going on in the in the in the

1:14:09

arena that we can't even see. Oh,

1:14:11

man, ECW. By

1:14:14

the way, coming up next. Well,

1:14:17

I don't want to give a spoiler. OK, there

1:14:19

is something fun coming. Well.

1:14:25

He just waved something. He just

1:14:27

waved in and waved in Don

1:14:29

Marie. Oh, there you go, Don

1:14:31

Marie. See, I get it

1:14:33

now. Don Marie is playing the part of Excalibur.

1:14:36

Don Calais is playing Jim Ross. And

1:14:38

of course, Joey is playing me.

1:14:40

No, that's not true, because see, Joey's

1:14:42

actually doing play -by -play here. Oh,

1:14:45

got it. I

1:14:47

just thought we were lined up on camera. see

1:14:49

the banner behind Don Marie? Yeah.

1:14:52

That's you on Don Amite. He

1:14:57

ain't say it. I mean, he ain't talking, but

1:14:59

we see him. He's right now. Son of a bitch.

1:15:01

I'm talking more. Now, all

1:15:03

we see, by the way, is that

1:15:06

goofy fucking earring. Don't you don't you

1:15:08

start that bullshit again? That

1:15:10

goofy earring you've got. Did you at

1:15:12

least swap out your Paul Wall fucking

1:15:14

middle of the mall riffraff bullshit CZ

1:15:16

with a real goddamn diamond now that

1:15:18

you got that sweet, sweet con money.

1:15:20

Stop with the sweet, sweet. Stop with

1:15:22

that shit. OK. First of all, I'm

1:15:25

not going to put a diamond in

1:15:27

my ear because I'll fucking lose it.

1:15:29

OK. What about in your teeth? Well,

1:15:31

you put a diamond in your teeth.

1:15:33

Can we get you to get a

1:15:35

grills? No, no,

1:15:37

grills. What if I get you

1:15:39

a grills where you wear it? Listen,

1:15:41

there are plenty of ways this

1:15:43

way, money. I know. OK. Well,

1:15:45

here's the best way money. Here comes New

1:15:48

Jack. Oh, my God. crutches.

1:15:50

He's walking the egg. Oh,

1:15:52

so. He's

1:15:55

got to get up on the

1:15:57

balcony here Even with a broken

1:15:59

foot any slower. Do you think

1:16:02

I wouldn't fucking stop him, right?

1:16:05

There's Ronnie on the right.

1:16:08

Mm -hmm. There's the most there's

1:16:10

jacked up Don West on

1:16:12

the left Tell me that

1:16:14

a jacked up Don West

1:16:16

when you see his head

1:16:18

in the frame again, bam

1:16:20

Jenny Suzuki Oh God Jimmy

1:16:22

was around right look man

1:16:25

I'm telling you right now. If

1:16:27

I'm the the other promotion, okay,

1:16:29

there's Tony DeVito an angel By

1:16:31

the way, we have a lot

1:16:33

of ACW alumni listening to this

1:16:35

Tony is a listener to the

1:16:37

show shout out to Tony hey,

1:16:39

Tony Appreciate your buddy and we

1:16:41

knew Jack just taking his time

1:16:43

going to the ring and now

1:16:45

that he is getting wailed on

1:16:47

whoa So these are the baldies,

1:16:50

right? The baldies look at you.

1:16:52

Mm -hmm. Well, it's on the back

1:16:54

Oh, they're sure. I can. I

1:16:56

can read that. You know, I just realized, but

1:16:58

I think you're the most famous Tony in

1:17:00

wrestling history. I

1:17:02

would argue that you're more popular than

1:17:04

Tony Korea. I would argue

1:17:06

that you're more popular than Tony

1:17:08

DeVito. How about Tony Atlas?

1:17:10

I was going to say even Tony Atlas. Yeah,

1:17:13

you're more over. You're the most over

1:17:15

Tony. And then, of course, it's

1:17:18

DeVito than Atlas. No, it's Tony

1:17:20

Khan. Oh, shit. Yeah. I

1:17:22

forgot about him. I

1:17:26

didn't. No, I didn't count. He

1:17:28

don't count for real. We're talking about.

1:17:30

What the fuck? I'm not. Those

1:17:32

comments from Conrad Thompson had not. Oh,

1:17:34

I don't mean that, you shithead.

1:17:36

I mean, he's not on camera. Oh,

1:17:39

I got like not backstage. Like,

1:17:42

yeah, there's probably been really important people

1:17:44

that I think of right now behind the

1:17:46

scenes besides Tony Khan. I mean, like,

1:17:48

you know, you do commentary or you're in

1:17:50

the ring, whatever. Oh,

1:17:52

I thought of a great shirt. I'm

1:17:55

going to get Ryan to put

1:17:57

this together for us over at lowestrules.com.

1:18:00

It's going to be a black

1:18:02

shirt with white letters and we

1:18:04

might do a few other fun

1:18:06

colors. But it'll say in a

1:18:08

very official font, non

1:18:10

bumper. Non

1:18:12

bumper. And I want you to

1:18:14

wear one as to wear one.

1:18:17

J .R. to wear one. There's people

1:18:19

who are working at dynamite. Well, that

1:18:21

day when you're doing everybody's doing

1:18:23

their walkthroughs and they're one one at

1:18:25

one PM meets and all that. Just

1:18:28

identify yourself for people who

1:18:30

aren't sure that you guys are

1:18:32

the non bumpers. We

1:18:35

will. I think it would be cool if

1:18:37

people in the crowd were to. And how

1:18:39

about this? If the wrestlers would have

1:18:41

been wearing it or if the fans would have

1:18:43

been wearing it this night, the police would have made

1:18:45

some arrests, but they

1:18:47

couldn't tell who's who's wrestling and

1:18:50

who ain't. Who is the Bob

1:18:52

person who's not who in the

1:18:54

world is the guy with the

1:18:56

flash gimmick on? That's super Nova

1:18:58

Mike Bucci. Okay. Banking business

1:19:00

in Kentucky. We've seen him as

1:19:02

Simon Dean. Right. On WWE. We've

1:19:04

also seen him as Hollywood Nova

1:19:06

when he was spoofing the NWO

1:19:08

with the BWO. But before that,

1:19:10

he was one of Raven's lackeys

1:19:13

as Nova. Well, this

1:19:15

is a this is a blatant disregard

1:19:17

for Warner media. trademark

1:19:21

The flash DC comics you see

1:19:23

what because he's wearing red and yellow.

1:19:25

Yeah, he's got these got the

1:19:27

lightning He's just wrestling in a t

1:19:30

-shirt, buddy. Yeah, okay. I got it

1:19:32

Well, at least he's different anybody

1:19:34

else in the match and that's good.

1:19:36

Well, cuz the other guys are

1:19:38

a tag team you see, right, but

1:19:40

Didn't he have a tag partner

1:19:43

here? Yes, he does. Do you know

1:19:45

who that tag partner is? Yes,

1:19:47

I do because I see it right

1:19:49

down to bottom my screen here

1:19:51

Okay, well, do you know who he

1:19:53

is Chris Chetty? Yeah, I do

1:19:56

not has a cousin. Oh

1:19:58

really? Yeah Wow, what does

1:20:00

he think it has? Why

1:20:03

are you asking me that? Why'd you

1:20:05

pass? I didn't say that That was Giovanni,

1:20:07

I'm laying out buddy. No, I was

1:20:09

just wondering what he thinks of his cousin

1:20:11

He may say hey, I like my

1:20:13

cousin. He calls me every hour Or I

1:20:15

don't like my cousin. He calls me

1:20:17

every hour. I

1:20:20

don't know because I don't know Chris Chetty. See,

1:20:22

I'm the task. Okay. And task knows your

1:20:24

home address because I've given it on this very program. Oh,

1:20:26

would you? Hey, you

1:20:29

know what? Of all the people that should

1:20:31

get my home address, he ain't one of them.

1:20:34

Well, he's got it. It's

1:20:36

on your contact info. Whenever anybody says, Hey,

1:20:38

do you have Tony Chavone's phone number? I send

1:20:41

them your home address, your skyline miles, your

1:20:43

date of birth. Your

1:20:46

how about the grocery stores

1:20:48

I frequent? No, no, no,

1:20:50

but I do put I

1:20:52

do have our our check

1:20:54

card information in there our

1:20:56

mutual bank information Your personal

1:20:58

routing number. Oh, thank you

1:21:00

your pin number for your

1:21:02

discover card. Mm -hmm Well

1:21:04

So for all of you

1:21:06

that want to make a

1:21:08

donation you've got the info how

1:21:12

you set my recent and discovered what's

1:21:14

that? My

1:21:17

wife is a gas station shooter. Oh,

1:21:21

no. No,

1:21:23

did you stop that? I

1:21:26

didn't know. Oh,

1:21:28

no, man. One

1:21:30

day. She

1:21:32

ate something bad. Yeah. OK.

1:21:35

We were in town and she asked

1:21:37

if I could pull over. Mm

1:21:39

hmm. OK. And

1:21:42

I said, why? She said she needed to use

1:21:44

the restroom. And I'm like, well, we'll be home

1:21:46

in 10 minutes. She's like, I need you to

1:21:48

pull over. Hmm. Okay. So I

1:21:50

knew, okay, she ate something that she didn't agree

1:21:52

with. Right. That was a freak

1:21:54

accident. Happened once in our four year

1:21:56

existence. And then

1:21:58

a pup putting along the

1:22:00

other day in North Carolina with

1:22:02

her. That's where visiting her

1:22:04

mom's new place in Charlotte. And

1:22:06

she says, I used to

1:22:08

take a lot of poops in

1:22:10

there and pointed at a

1:22:12

gas station. And

1:22:15

I have a ton of toilet humor,

1:22:17

as you know, that is not her

1:22:19

deal at all. In fact,

1:22:21

whenever. I've

1:22:23

never known that she made a duty. But

1:22:27

I do know when it

1:22:29

happens, she has a phrase,

1:22:32

floors and doors should go to

1:22:34

another floor and she'll go

1:22:36

through at least four doors and

1:22:38

then it will happen. And

1:22:40

I only know that because she's told

1:22:42

me it's floors and doors. OK, but

1:22:44

I could never tell you just I

1:22:46

think she's in the kitchen. Mm

1:22:49

hmm. I don't know, making a cake

1:22:51

or something. She disappears. She comes back. The

1:22:53

cake is there. I never knew she

1:22:55

left. It's a great fucking story.

1:22:57

Go ahead. Oh, I'm just telling you. Mm

1:22:59

hmm. Took a lot of poops in

1:23:01

there. My wife is a gas station shooter.

1:23:03

I haven't told anybody this yet, Tony. Mm

1:23:06

hmm. I wanted to tell you she would rather

1:23:08

shit at a gas station than she would at

1:23:10

home. Is that what you're saying? She couldn't make

1:23:12

it. Oh, so her situation

1:23:14

was she would have, you know, did

1:23:16

her workout, had whatever sort of breakfast

1:23:18

supplement and been on the way to

1:23:20

work. And then nature called. And I

1:23:22

think nature's calling during this promo. What

1:23:24

do you think, Tony? Or what do

1:23:26

you think Tommy's saying here? Well,

1:23:29

at least she didn't shit in my hand here, as you

1:23:31

can see, she shit in the toilet over

1:23:33

there to the right. And I said, no, I'm going to

1:23:35

shit in the toilet the left. And she said floors and

1:23:37

doors. So floors and doors is

1:23:39

what I'm all about. See, that's it.

1:23:41

I like floors to out shit anywhere because

1:23:43

i'm an ecw and as we know

1:23:45

a lot of times it's shit okay shit

1:23:47

in one hand and shit in the

1:23:49

other shit right here shit but go ahead

1:23:51

shit in my hand i don't care

1:23:54

i'll wipe your ass you want to shit

1:23:56

on me you want to shit on

1:23:58

tomby dreamer bring it i don't give a

1:24:00

shit i'm in a toilet right now

1:24:02

that's where they wanted me to do this

1:24:04

promo you're in a damn toilet so

1:24:06

shit right on the floor if you want

1:24:08

to see i put it right at

1:24:10

the floor shit on the floor you want

1:24:12

to i don't care one more thing

1:24:15

okay Always go through four doors four doors.

1:24:17

All right, and if you got a

1:24:19

shit, hold on to it Wait, wait until

1:24:21

you get home be like your husband

1:24:23

your husband always a shy shitter That's what

1:24:25

I know. He's a shy shitter and

1:24:27

you your shit in a QT you shit

1:24:29

in a In a shell station, maybe

1:24:31

a Texaco. How about a Chevron? They're the

1:24:33

dirtiest Okay, make me fucking mad every

1:24:35

time I think of somebody It

1:24:37

makes me fucking mad every time I

1:24:40

think of somebody shitting in the Chevron. Oh,

1:24:42

God. I'm thinking, you know what?

1:24:45

I go into the men's, and I know they're

1:24:47

not clean because they piss all over the floor.

1:24:49

I can imagine what the women do. Oh,

1:24:51

God, don't know. Jesus Christ. I'm over

1:24:53

here. I just, I don't want to use

1:24:56

you. You shitted the Chevron? My God, I can't

1:24:58

believe. Why didn't he fucking marry you? Oh,

1:25:00

Jesus Christ. Oh, and

1:25:03

your Ric Flair's daughter. Oh, let

1:25:05

me tell you this one more time, okay? Shit

1:25:08

at home Shit at home. I

1:25:10

would rather shit in my pants

1:25:12

than shit in a goddamn Chevron

1:25:14

Yeah, that's what I mean and

1:25:16

look at me. I'm bleeding, okay?

1:25:18

They're probably people that bleed in

1:25:20

toilets in a gas station not

1:25:22

me They say that racetrack and

1:25:24

they say that QTs are good.

1:25:26

I say it's all not a

1:25:29

place to take a shit They

1:25:31

may have great drinks and they

1:25:33

may have hot dogs But

1:25:35

it's not a place to take a shit in. You

1:25:37

see what I'm saying? The walls

1:25:39

look like this. The

1:25:41

walls look like this. The

1:25:44

walls or shitters look

1:25:46

like this. You shouldn't

1:25:48

shit in a place. Walls

1:25:50

look like this. You get it. You

1:25:53

understand what I'm saying? Never

1:25:55

shit. We

1:25:58

should stop the show right now. We will

1:26:00

never top that. Well,

1:26:03

he just. He was as upset as

1:26:05

I was about what you said. Oh,

1:26:09

my God, we got a little Italian

1:26:11

here. It's

1:26:13

psychosis, baby. Psychosis,

1:26:15

baby. Oh,

1:26:19

hey, so chat me up. Yeah.

1:26:21

What's low? How does the lowest

1:26:23

feel about shit? Oh, she

1:26:25

does. She wants to shit at home, too. I

1:26:28

really needed you to say she's for it.

1:26:35

Um, so she likes to share at home. I

1:26:37

think everybody likes to share at home. But

1:26:39

if nature calls, she she'd blow it out of

1:26:41

a BP. Yeah,

1:26:43

I think she would. I think anybody would,

1:26:45

wouldn't they? Well, let me tell you this. This

1:26:47

is something we haven't talked about before. All

1:26:49

of my vehicles in the trunk is a little packet

1:26:51

of wet wipes. Right.

1:26:54

Just in case. Just in case.

1:26:56

Yeah. And

1:26:58

when you go, when you go out of town, do you

1:27:00

pack extra underwear? No, I don't

1:27:03

wear underwear. Oh, OK. Wow.

1:27:05

That's what you and the American dream have in common. OK.

1:27:11

I always pack an extra pair of underwear. That's not the

1:27:13

only thing me and Dream have in common. Vince

1:27:16

hired us both as a rib. Do

1:27:25

you like that one,

1:27:27

didn't he? That was

1:27:29

a great one. That

1:27:31

was an off the

1:27:33

cuff five star right

1:27:35

there. Next

1:27:38

up, we've got Tajiri in a

1:27:41

four way with Mikey Whipprick, psychosis.

1:27:43

And I think they're calling

1:27:46

him Grand Maritado, but

1:27:48

it's a little weirdo. No. They're

1:27:51

going to go nine minutes, 17

1:27:53

seconds, psychosis gets a huge pop coming

1:27:55

out. And that's what I style,

1:27:57

said he was six, two, which is

1:27:59

kind of funny, more like five,

1:28:01

10. But still, this is a good match.

1:28:03

He gave it three and a half stars. He

1:28:06

liked it even better than the Jerry

1:28:08

Lynn Steve Reno match. I should mention

1:28:10

the Chetty and Nova against the Baldies.

1:28:12

That went four minutes, 39 seconds, two

1:28:14

and a half stars. Unfortunately,

1:28:16

our man Tony did not win. Chetty

1:28:19

and Nova did. But

1:28:21

to Jerry, such a great talent,

1:28:23

so underrated. Oh, yeah. I

1:28:25

mean, you talk about another guy. Dude,

1:28:27

imagine if if he was. Doing his thing

1:28:29

right now for the first time I had

1:28:31

a pro wrestling T story are you kidding?

1:28:34

Yeah, he'd be blowing up and

1:28:36

little Guido criminally underrated same

1:28:38

thing excelled at everything he ever

1:28:40

did supposedly all around great

1:28:42

guy, but just in the era

1:28:44

where. You know, he

1:28:46

wasn't the biggest guy. Yeah.

1:28:49

You telling me he couldn't have some fun

1:28:51

working matches with. I mean, I'd love to

1:28:53

see him really get to test his metal

1:28:55

against a guy like Roger Strong or Adam

1:28:57

Cole or. You know some

1:28:59

of those guys we know to be

1:29:01

the upper echelon right now. Yeah, and

1:29:03

even back in the day Years before

1:29:05

this being a WCW cruiserweight when the

1:29:07

cruiserweights were great. Yeah, he probably would

1:29:09

have been he probably fitting well We

1:29:11

saw to Jerry and Mike awesome remember

1:29:13

that match we saw which was tremendous. I

1:29:16

Believe I'm right about that. Here we

1:29:18

go with all the crazy tables. Yes,

1:29:20

that was my side of Tanaka. Oh,

1:29:23

that was Tanaka. Okay, sorry. That's all

1:29:25

good. Okay And they just

1:29:27

dug Mikey Whipwreck out of the sand. Yes,

1:29:29

they did. And by the way, he

1:29:32

is a great broadcast to F. R. M.

1:29:34

Him and Jerry Lynn get together and

1:29:36

chop it up and talk about the good

1:29:38

old days of ECW. So check them

1:29:40

out. And Father James Mitchell, who I know

1:29:42

to be a nice guy. I

1:29:44

got to tell you, creeps me the fuck

1:29:46

out with those weird fingernails. He was good. I

1:29:48

mean, he was he was creepy good. I

1:29:51

mean, he had

1:29:53

those those eyebrows. And

1:29:56

you saw it at the beginning of the

1:29:58

show that he put up in like devil horns,

1:30:00

Satan horns. Yeah, he just slicks them up.

1:30:02

Yeah, slicks them up. But I mean, just. But

1:30:04

no, seriously, that's the easy thing to do,

1:30:06

right? If you've got some longer eyebrow hair, it's

1:30:08

easy to sort of fashion them up, put some product

1:30:10

in it, make it say. But

1:30:12

it is a goddamn commitment to

1:30:14

walk around with pointy fingernails. Yes.

1:30:19

Like that really limits.

1:30:23

Well, I ain't his job

1:30:26

opportunity and be his ability

1:30:28

to wipe his own ass

1:30:30

or stroke himself or help

1:30:32

a lady friend out Yeah,

1:30:34

yeah, that's commitment Look at

1:30:36

fuck look at whipwreck man

1:30:38

Or Mikey could do some

1:30:40

shit Dude and you want

1:30:42

to talk about a talented

1:30:44

guy. I mean y 'all had

1:30:47

him. Oh, yeah, and WCW

1:30:49

Yeah. And again, just like

1:30:51

everybody else that we had,

1:30:53

we had no fucking idea

1:30:55

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1:33:00

know, they would have stuck around putting him

1:33:02

with the public enemies like a six

1:33:04

man against some literature doors. Do

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some. Yeah. Well, who

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knows what we would have done. Now,

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who's this in the ring? That's

1:33:17

the other member of the FBI.

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He was also in WCW as Tony

1:33:21

Mama Luke. Oh, okay. I remember

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Tony. I just didn't recognize him from

1:33:25

from that. We offer behind he

1:33:27

looked like the karate kid. Yeah, right.

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We refer to him as Matthew

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Coon because we know that's Matt Coon

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carrying around like he would break. Oh,

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yeah. Tony Mama Luke. I remember

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him. Usually when Matt Coons carrying somebody,

1:33:41

it's been through so. Again,

1:33:46

off the cuff. Five stars. Oh, in

1:33:48

the cover. One, two,

1:33:50

three. Is that it? Is

1:33:53

that elimination? Is that what it was? By the way, we're

1:33:55

going to get hate if we don't say that we're just kidding.

1:33:57

You and I both like Vince Russo. You

1:34:01

know, Russo's fans are. They

1:34:04

hear what they want to hear and then they just go on the

1:34:06

witch hunt. It's like, guys, we don't

1:34:08

have anything bad to say about Vince Russo. He's

1:34:10

always been nice to me and out of him. And

1:34:12

as far as I know, Tony and Vince are

1:34:14

friends. Always been friends. So we're

1:34:16

just busting balls and having fun. We've

1:34:18

made fun of everyone else on the

1:34:20

show and no one cared. You

1:34:26

know how to stop those creeps

1:34:28

from from shitting on us, don't

1:34:30

you? Well, I don't care

1:34:32

about them. I was just. But you

1:34:34

know how to stop them is not to

1:34:36

fucking read it. Well, that's kind of

1:34:38

our job, Tony. I

1:34:41

know that you don't subscribe to that because you

1:34:43

just think that. Money just fucking falls out of

1:34:45

the sky. But can you imagine how much more

1:34:48

successful our show would be if you use your

1:34:50

social media to, I don't know, like, you know,

1:34:52

be fucking social, promote

1:34:56

our fucking shit, and

1:34:59

a goddamn retweet. Will

1:35:01

it kill you to retweet some

1:35:03

shit that's not related to Brent Baker?

1:35:07

Jeff Jones, you gotta be running that

1:35:09

goddamn account now. And if you don't

1:35:11

start retweeting the podcast shit, I'm going

1:35:13

to change your passwords. You

1:35:18

feel better? About what?

1:35:21

OK. Well,

1:35:26

is the match over? No, he's

1:35:28

just bowing. He's thanking fans for

1:35:30

cheering for him. OK. Oh,

1:35:32

the Sicilian shooter. I like that name. Hey,

1:35:35

did you see over the weekend that there's a

1:35:37

new New Japan World Champion? I

1:35:39

did not. Belt changed hands,

1:35:41

my friend. Hmm. And who's

1:35:43

the new Japan World Champion

1:35:46

now? I'm glad you

1:35:48

asked. Mm hmm. Evil. Evil.

1:35:52

Yep. OK. It's

1:35:55

a 33 year old professional

1:35:57

wrestler. Mm hmm. Good. Big

1:35:59

part of a big time tag

1:36:01

team. And over the weekend, his tag

1:36:03

partner abandoned him. Mm hmm. And

1:36:05

turned his back. Or no,

1:36:07

he did rather. Enjoying the

1:36:10

bullet club. Mm hmm. Evil

1:36:13

joined the bullet club and

1:36:15

the next night he was

1:36:17

revealed that He has a

1:36:19

new second as well. Mm

1:36:21

-hmm the name from the

1:36:23

past but one that was

1:36:26

Very familiar with American fans.

1:36:28

Okay, and that was dick

1:36:30

to go whoa Well So

1:36:32

glad he wasn't around when

1:36:34

I was dating Lois Well,

1:36:36

you wouldn't have been there

1:36:38

you would have been up

1:36:40

Look, you would have been

1:36:42

looking to date a girl. Drive

1:36:46

through pussy. So.

1:36:52

So I heard that New

1:36:54

Japan. I think it

1:36:56

was New Japan. I read this, right? Because,

1:36:59

you know, I read the observer

1:37:01

now, but I perused the observer. In

1:37:04

other words, when he's talking about,

1:37:06

you know, UFC, I skip it.

1:37:09

Oh, yeah. I have no interest in that.

1:37:11

I get it. I skip the AW parts. Yeah.

1:37:14

I'm just kidding, Tony. So anyway, I,

1:37:16

uh, I understand that this

1:37:18

is a long way of saying this, but

1:37:20

are they getting some fans in New Japan? A

1:37:22

wrestling in front of fans now in

1:37:24

Japan? They are. The belt, the

1:37:26

belt changed hands in front of the crowd. How

1:37:29

cool is that? Yeah, that is

1:37:31

how cool. Look at that. Look at

1:37:34

this. How

1:37:38

about that little maneuver? What would

1:37:40

you call that if you were calling

1:37:42

wrestling? I would call that I

1:37:45

would call that scorpion He looked like

1:37:47

a scorpion I Don't know how

1:37:49

to have to look at I actually

1:37:51

if I was calling the match

1:37:53

I would say what do you call

1:37:55

that a scalloper? Sure. Mm -hmm. One

1:37:57

of us has to be prepared.

1:37:59

Yeah story of you doing shit. Yeah,

1:38:02

stop it Look at

1:38:04

this Hanging him out the

1:38:06

dry That's

1:38:09

the cat in the cradle right there is what

1:38:11

that's in the silver spoon. Mm -hmm.

1:38:13

Hey, what we're seeing some great talent

1:38:15

from all over the world here, you

1:38:17

know, we've got an Italian. We've

1:38:20

got a Japanese Mexican.

1:38:22

Mm -hmm. I learned

1:38:25

Dave Silva has

1:38:27

a nickname. Really?

1:38:31

Oh, look at that handspring. Well, it apparently

1:38:33

is what women used to call him

1:38:35

at his old job, old, old, old job.

1:38:38

Okay, what where was his old old old

1:38:40

job? I believe it was in television news. Yeah,

1:38:43

okay. I

1:38:46

remember that Okay,

1:38:48

oh, you're

1:38:50

Grandas Oh, yeah,

1:38:52

Grandas. Oh, yeah,

1:38:54

Grandas. Yeah, well a poya

1:38:56

Grandas. Okay. Oh, yeah, Grandas.

1:38:58

Oh, yeah, Grandas. Yeah Okay,