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Hello and welcome to this week's episode of

1:29

what most people think and I'm going to

1:31

bring in my guest straight away because I'm

1:34

delighted to have him back. But if you're

1:36

not back now are you Andrew Doyle you're

1:38

joining us live from Arizona what are you

1:40

doing out there? Well I'm in Arizona for

1:43

a while I'm looking into the very much

1:45

very seriously looking into the prospect of moving

1:47

here permanently so I'm here for the time being

1:49

checking stuff out. I went to visit tombstone

1:51

the other day which is really my real

1:53

reason for wanting to come here so I

1:55

could go and relive the Val Kilmer. Kurt

1:57

Russell film because it's just down the road

1:59

for me really. couple of hours away. Arizona,

2:01

very cool. I mean we were talking just

2:03

before we came on there about you know

2:05

these people when somebody they don't like gets

2:07

in power they they flee and then you've

2:09

sort of gone well I'm gonna go to

2:11

that place you were suggesting there could be

2:13

some sort of cultural exchange scheme. Well yeah

2:15

because Rosie O'Donnell and Helen Hunt have gone

2:17

to Ireland and myself and Graham Linnerhan have

2:20

gone over to America so we could we

2:22

could actually make that an official thing to

2:24

swap citizenship I think that would work really

2:26

well and they're fleeing Trump I could say

2:28

that I was fleeing starma I mean it's

2:30

not true but I could say it but

2:32

he's not it's not fleable is it I

2:34

mean he's very deeply disappointed annoying irritating human

2:36

being but that's part of the reason you

2:38

wouldn't flee what a damnable indictment to be

2:41

not fleable You're just not a fleaable leader.

2:43

It's not a fleaable person. Well, listen, maybe

2:45

you could do it. They used to do

2:47

this thing with council flats back in the

2:49

day, where like if you lived by the

2:52

scene, you wanted to get in London, vice

2:54

versa. So it could be like a council

2:56

flat exchange screen. And look, there's so many

2:58

people over in the US who are

3:00

complaining about Trump and so many people

3:03

in the UK complaining about stama. This

3:05

just solves absolutely. Everything we could do

3:07

it in one fella. Let's create a

3:09

fluid global system where everybody leaves where

3:11

they live based on the reaction to

3:13

the last election. It's interesting you mention

3:15

Starmer there and him not being fleaable.

3:17

One of the things we're going to

3:19

talk about in this week's show is

3:21

just what is Kier Starmer? There's a

3:23

real kind of hodgepodge of policies and

3:25

directions, you know, from attacks and spend

3:27

budget last time to a bit of

3:29

diet austerity this time, to a supposedly

3:31

a left-wing guy, but seems to, didn't

3:33

take that much nudge nudge-nudge-nudge-nudge-nudge-nudge-nudge-nudge-nudge-nudge-nudge-nudge-nudge-nudge-nudge-nudge-nudge-nudge-nudge-nudge-nudge-in to be-in to

3:35

be-in to be-in to be-in to be-in to be-in

3:37

to be-in to be-in to be-d-in to be-in to

3:39

be best mates. So we're going to talk about

3:41

that and the upcoming spring statement. I should time

3:43

check this. This is 6 o'clock UK time on

3:45

the Monday. So just if you're listening to this

3:47

after the spring statement, that'll be why we haven't

3:49

said things that were in the spring statement. And

3:51

we're also going to continue to chat about the

3:53

TV show adolescence last week and the hand ringing

3:55

that it prompted in terms of what's going on

3:58

with young men and we're going to get Andrew.

4:00

take on that. And in the Patriot only, we're going

4:02

to talk about what is the woke right? What

4:04

is it? What is it, Andrew? In a nutshell, just

4:06

give people a little tease here. What is the

4:08

woke right? It is. Those who

4:10

are on the right side of politics,

4:12

as opposed to the left side of

4:14

politics who have a tendency towards authoritarianism

4:17

and censorship as the woke left do. So

4:19

I was going to say that sounds familiar,

4:21

or offence archaeology as well. bit

4:23

of that and also an obsession with group identity. So

4:25

there are all these traits that link them, that

4:28

have nothing to do with left and right. I mean,

4:30

we'll go into it later, no doubt. But I've

4:32

never thought that the culture has anything to do with

4:34

left and right. So it makes perfectly sense that

4:36

you've got woke people on the left and the right.

4:38

Yeah, it's increasing. The woke right and the woke

4:40

left are a Venn diagram where there's only one circle.

4:45

New patrons, as you know, Andrew,

4:47

we roast names here. We've

4:49

got James Kenard. James Kenard sounds

4:51

to me like a guy

4:53

that does really expensive bathroom surfaces.

4:55

James Kenard kitchens, James Kenard

4:58

kitchens, JKK. That would work.

5:00

I also see it as a kind of,

5:02

it could work as a scholar's name as

5:04

well, James Kenard. The James Kenard Foundation. If

5:07

you put a middle initial in there,

5:09

like James S. Kenard, then all a

5:11

sudden you're someone writing tracks about, I don't

5:13

know, anthropology or something of that kind.

5:15

I mean, a middle initial raises the

5:17

bar for any name. What would you

5:19

go for? How would you be an Andrew

5:21

F. Doyle, I suspect, maybe? Well, my

5:23

middle initial is actually R, but I

5:25

like F. F works, doesn't it? F

5:27

and S work. R doesn't work at all,

5:29

for some reason. Has a gravitas to

5:31

it. What about X? X is quite

5:34

good. Andrew X. Doyle. That just sounds

5:36

like an email address. Jeffrey

5:38

F. Norcott is actually mine. That sounds

5:40

immediately better. You are immediately an intellectual. It's

5:43

like wearing glasses or having a British

5:45

accent in America. It immediately adds that. Mate,

5:47

I'm British. I've started to wear glasses

5:49

and I've got an F in my name.

5:51

Fucking give me a visa. We've

5:54

got Jane Kay. Jane Kay. Jane

5:56

Kay. I mean, that does sound

5:58

only fans -ish, doesn't it? Jane. Or

6:00

girl bandish. Yes, Jay and Kay. Maybe

6:02

there's two Jane's in the girl band.

6:04

Yeah, it's like Mel C and Mel

6:06

B. Yes. It's Jay and Jay C.

6:09

I'm always polite in the end of

6:11

the women, but I was going down

6:13

the only fans. Ru. I was discussing

6:15

only fans recently, and it really, I

6:17

sort of thinking about what I'd want

6:20

from an only fans, and I think

6:22

it would be mainly encouragement. I don't

6:24

know if I'd need any sexual content.

6:26

I just need recognition and support. I'd

6:29

just like someone to give me

6:31

some tips on literature and what

6:33

books to read and maybe a

6:35

bit of critical analysis of

6:37

Shakespeare and era poets. Hardcore Chaucer. Yeah,

6:40

that's a great name for an only

6:42

fans. Hardcore Georgia. Well I could do

6:44

it. Hardcore Jeffery and I've got the

6:46

correct spelling. And then there's somebody who's

6:48

just called Gagfob who obviously doesn't want

6:51

to be known perhaps it's a sensitive

6:53

thing at work. Gagfob. Gagfob does sound

6:55

like you know on X is it's

6:57

become increasing the anti-woken right wing. A

7:00

lot of people there don't have their

7:02

real names and they just have some

7:04

sort of... drawn caricature. Gagfob sounds like

7:06

somebody who would accuse me of sucking

7:08

the left-wing cock and why don't I

7:10

just fuck off to the BBC?

7:13

Yeah, Gagfob has a pepe frog face. Yes,

7:15

I definitely. Gagfah, I'm now going to find

7:17

out like it's some really noble Austrian name

7:19

and I've just insulted their family. But that

7:21

is definitely how it looks and there are,

7:23

you know, it ties in what we're going

7:26

to talk about in the patrononia. There are

7:28

plenty of those people. You never lose followers

7:30

off this. You know, whenever you're taking the

7:32

piss out of people's names, do you never,

7:34

do you never get someone emailing you so

7:36

actually? I've changed my mind. Do you know

7:39

it's the opposite, is they get really pissed

7:41

off if I don't give them a full

7:43

roasting? But you've got to be the only

7:45

fans for that. David domain, or Superpatient, David

7:47

domain, who first up he wanted to say

7:49

that he's very much missing you on Headliners

7:52

and GB News. It's not been the same

7:54

since you left mate. I know you're too

7:56

modest to say, fuck, but you know, you

7:58

were a big part of that shit. There's

8:00

been a few people getting in touch

8:02

by the, before we do the main

8:04

talking point, because I'm doing a tour

8:07

show in, well, I was calling it,

8:09

Alnwick. Do you know this is something

8:11

near Scotland, Alnwick? Never heard of it.

8:13

This tour of mine is going everywhere,

8:15

mate. Apparently you pronounce it anic. And

8:17

it's A-L-N-W-I-C-K, but you pronounce it anic. Is

8:19

it one of these highlands, some sort of

8:21

obscure? I think it's on the way. I

8:23

mean, like I think that in fairness to my

8:26

tour promoter, they've basically gone, fucking off, we're

8:28

going to make them go that far, we

8:30

better throw in something else. And what I

8:32

know from these sort of gigs is it could

8:34

well be in a community center. Yeah, it's very

8:36

socialist of you to take your

8:38

entertainment to the masses. I think

8:40

that's great. Well, can I just

8:42

say another thing that's very socialist

8:44

of me is my ticket prices, right?

8:47

If you look around, just if you're

8:49

ever bored, just have a look at

8:51

the left-wing comics and how much they

8:53

charge. Just if you're ever bored, just

8:55

have a look at the left-wing comics

8:57

and how much they charge. Just if you're

8:59

ever bored, now some would say, well, I

9:02

wish I was as good at capitalism as

9:04

day off. Now they've got it nailed, they know exactly what they're doing.

9:06

Yeah, what is it? I mean I think mine is about, I think it's

9:08

a top whack of 20 quid, then all the other things charge, they throw

9:10

on a couple of quid here and there. The new thing now is that

9:12

the venues charge a venue levy, which is basically like a Trump tariff. And

9:14

the worst thing is, is the way that some of them word it, they

9:16

make it sound like it's me. Yeah. So I had loadss people, the tour

9:18

first went on the tour first went on sale first went on sale, went

9:20

on sale, screen, screen, screen, screen on sale, screen, screen on sale, screen, screen

9:22

on it, screen on it, screen on it, screen on it, screen on it,

9:24

screen on it, screen, screen, screen, screen, screen, screen on

9:26

this, screen, screen, screen, screen, screen, screen, screen, screen, screen,

9:29

going, going, going, going, going, going, going, I have to

9:31

be honest with you, 20 quid, that's very reasonable. I

9:33

couldn't get away with that. It'd be 8 quid and

9:35

chicken in a basket thrown in, I think. So you had

9:37

a hand job. Sorry. Had to. From you to them or them

9:39

to you? I don't know. Would you sort of say you're

9:41

allowed to give me one? That's a lot of, would you sort

9:43

of say you're allowed to give me one? That's a lot

9:45

of hand jobs in one. Would you, or them to you, I

9:47

don't know, would you, would you, would you, or would you, would you,

9:49

or would you, or would you, or would you, would you, or would

9:51

you, or would you, or would you, or would you, or would you,

9:54

or would you, would you, or would you, or would you, or would

9:56

you, or would you, or would you, or would you, or would you,

9:58

or would you, or would you, or would you, or would you I've

10:00

got you talking about dishing our hand job stuff.

10:02

We were talking about Tring which is one of

10:04

the new days we've added to the tour and

10:06

that did right I said that Tring sounds like

10:08

sort of urban dictionary for a fit girl like

10:11

she is tring mate she's sole tring. Very on

10:13

a matter of poetic isn't it? She's the tringest

10:15

bitch over sort. I'm aeping the language of the

10:17

streets there. Great quality about where is Tring. I

10:19

do not know. I mean some of these places

10:22

I just put a post code in I just

10:24

drive. I should know where it is. He's in

10:26

Buckinghamshire probably. Do you just choose your locations on

10:28

the basis of how obscure they sound? I am

10:30

saying the obscure ones. We are in Bristol, Bath

10:33

and Brighton. There's a place like Muff in Donnie

10:35

Gaul. Shingle come Wendy in Bedfordshire which is one

10:37

of my favourite, my favourite. I was talking about

10:39

Tories in the Northern England. I was talking about

10:41

how once upon a time there were many briefly

10:43

briefly. region of England. There's just now one conservative

10:46

MP. That is Matt Vickers in Stockton West. Well,

10:48

Matt, he's like an outpost, isn't he? He's like

10:50

an outwriter, just a vigilante that's just been left

10:52

there for the, when the toys rise again in

10:54

the North. Are you appreciating or anticipating a bit

10:57

of pushback when you go to like the Labour

10:59

Heartlands for your comedy? Well, it's the first tour

11:01

that I'm doing with a Labour government, so it's

11:03

quite fun. Because, you know, the position of not,

11:05

I never really defended the toys, but I sort

11:08

of like took the piss out of the hypocrisy

11:10

and the hyper-hiberbole on the left. But now, just

11:12

being able to go straight in on a Labour

11:14

government, mate, I would have voted for Labour years

11:16

ago. I didn't vote for them at last election,

11:18

but I would have known how much fun it

11:21

would have made the tour shows. It would have

11:23

been. No, no, no. I wouldn't be in the

11:25

world, because I've always been socially liberal, economically right

11:27

wing. I wouldn't say that reform all that. I

11:29

don't know what they are yet. I don't know

11:32

if they know. I don't know if they need

11:34

to know yet. They just need... be

11:36

a word at this point.

11:38

Reform is just a

11:40

great word to be called.

11:43

The other two parties,

11:45

Labour, that sounds like hard

11:47

work. Conservative, that sounds

11:49

boring. Reform, good word. They've

11:51

done a good PR

11:53

job there, haven't they? It's

11:56

all about what it

11:58

sounds like. It's a difficult

12:00

thing to argue against,

12:02

isn't it? Let's have some

12:04

reform. Yeah, let's not.

12:07

I mean, Conservative literally sounds

12:09

like, no, no, let's

12:11

keep things. Whatever track we're

12:13

on, let's just keep...

12:15

Liberal Democrat is probably the

12:18

best name if they

12:20

were either of those things.

12:22

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12:24

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12:26

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12:28

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12:31

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12:33

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14:37

I put Andrew is, you know all

14:39

comedians always say I'm due to phenomenal

14:41

demand, due to vomit inducing erection busting

14:44

demand. I just said due to reasonably

14:46

brisk demand. I tried to think of

14:48

the best way to describe it. Yeah.

14:51

The London Day didn't sell it, sell

14:53

it out in a day, it didn't

14:55

even sell it in a week, but

14:58

it sold out in nine days. So

15:00

I'd describe that as reasonably brisk. There

15:02

is reasonably brisk, but you can't really

15:05

put that on a poster in terms

15:07

of what I did. Oh, you did.

15:09

Pleasantly surprising demand. Yeah. The other one

15:12

that comedians do, which is slightly disingenuous, is

15:14

when they say, I'm just blown away by

15:16

this. Sorry, blown away by the thing that

15:18

you've made a five-year career plan of happening.

15:21

Blown away is not the right word. Just

15:23

be honest and go, I am happy that

15:25

this has happened, but like all comedians, I

15:28

feel like it was five years overdue. Well,

15:30

comedians are known for their hyperbole, aren't there.

15:32

I've lost count of the number of Edinburgh

15:34

of Edinburgh posters that have star of Michael

15:37

McIntire, Michael McIntire's road show. as though Michael

15:39

McIntyre isn't the star of Michael McIntyre's radio.

15:41

That was that was the key one wasn't

15:43

it stars? I always say to them take

15:46

that out whenever they do a poster

15:48

I say he was on. He was on

15:50

guest on. Yeah they were invited back. Yeah

15:52

a couple of cutaways on a league of

15:54

their own but you know the good thing

15:56

I'm doing a working progress tour. It is

15:58

shaping up I know comedians. again this is

16:00

a cliche but comedians always say it's

16:02

shaping up to be my best yet but

16:04

it's it's even though I called it basic

16:06

bloke two right which again I'm just trying

16:08

to do these stupid things which other people

16:10

wouldn't do basic bloke two it is different

16:12

to the last show I think I might

16:14

be back pushing the envelope again a bit

16:17

more because I've had a couple of

16:19

gossps and five shows in I've

16:21

had a couple of gasps. Good

16:23

sign, right? That's not like you

16:25

Jeff. Well, I've been going a

16:27

bit more, you know, comfortable getting

16:29

the old slippers on, but I'm

16:31

back in gasp territory. So the

16:33

old boy's still got it, mate.

16:36

Yeah, no, that's good. It's just,

16:38

it's, it's, it's, it's been a

16:40

while. But then calling it a

16:42

sequel, making it a sequel implies

16:44

that your last one was fantastic

16:46

and everyone jump street. It's very funny,

16:48

very funny film, underrated, the scene in

16:51

it where Chanintayam goes back to school

16:53

as a jock and thinks that he

16:55

can bully people and realizes what millennials

16:57

slash Genzs have become, is way ahead

16:59

of its time by the way. Even

17:01

if you just watch it on YouTube,

17:03

if you put in 21 Jump Street,

17:05

Rucksack scene, it's very funny. But then

17:07

what happened was, that one did quite

17:09

well, so they called the sequel, the

17:11

sequel, 22 Jump Street. and there's a

17:13

scene in here. There's a scene in

17:15

where Ice Cube is saying it's called

17:17

22 Jump Street and it goes, isn't that

17:19

just like 21 Jump Street but you've just

17:21

added a one? No, it's completely different. This

17:24

is 22 Jump Street. It's a bit forced.

17:26

They did it with the oceans films as

17:28

well, didn't they? They just kept counting it.

17:30

This is basic blow two though. It's going

17:32

to be like Empire Strikes Back mate. It's

17:35

just going to blow people away. Do you

17:37

have a subtitle? Well, so it's called, there's

17:39

no bloke without fire. Continuing my homage to

17:41

shit 90s action films, I've given it that

17:43

kind of, uh... That's good. And it also

17:46

ties into the, you know, the tradition of

17:48

having puns in your show titles for

17:50

comedians. But look, you know, not all

17:52

of us can have a name like

17:54

Joe Lysit, which scans with so many

17:56

things. So I had to sort of

17:58

manufacture the punability of it. putting the

18:00

word in that I wanted to pun

18:02

up. Have you ever had a pun

18:05

in your show titles? Wouldn't work with

18:07

me. I can't think of one that

18:09

rhymes with Doyle or, you know, could

18:11

potentially, I suppose if you were going

18:14

down the environmentalist route, it could be

18:16

just stop Doyle. That is fucking great.

18:18

That is really good. You should, or

18:20

a well-doiled machine. Well-doiled machine, okay. Actually,

18:23

there's loads, when you start thinking down.

18:25

There's loads. Yeah. I'm quite an oilyly

18:27

person. Okay, right, we've got Andrew's comeback

18:29

show. What is your fuck you? It's

18:32

the news this week about the Shakespeare

18:34

Birthplace Trust. I don't know if you

18:36

heard about this. So Shakespeare's Birthplace Trust,

18:38

which is the charity that's in charge

18:41

of the various properties connected to William

18:43

Shakespeare, in Stratford, up on Avon, and

18:45

also... has lots of archive material and

18:47

curated material. They've decided to decolonize their

18:50

collection and the language they're using is

18:52

of course the boilerplate of social justice.

18:54

You know, a lot of his work

18:57

contains racist, sexist, homophobic aspects and they

18:59

need to decolonize and contextualize. And the

19:01

thing about it is, it's like it

19:03

feels outdated already. It feels like like

19:06

2021. They're just not... clocking in to

19:08

the new the new trend or the

19:10

new way of thinking it's it's it's

19:12

so banal it's so boring and I'm

19:15

so bored of people trying to decolonize

19:17

Shakespeare you know the Globe Theatre has

19:19

an annual anti-racist webinar where they get

19:21

scholars to go online so that people

19:24

can just berate Shakespeare for being a

19:26

bit racist and you just think these

19:28

people are like grubs compared to the

19:30

finest literary genius the UK has ever

19:33

been doing. The fact it's a webinar,

19:35

they couldn't even be asked to meet

19:37

up to do it. It's lazy as

19:39

well as embarrassing. I know what you

19:42

mean, it is weird, there are these

19:44

things now. I think what's happened is

19:46

basically people have come into contact with

19:48

not how the anti-woke movement feel about

19:51

things, but how the public feel. It's

19:53

the public that got fed up with

19:55

this stuff. And there are things that

19:57

are in motion like Disney, like... What's

20:00

a good example of a project that

20:02

was launched, you know, a lot of,

20:04

there are still films and TV shows

20:06

in development that probably went into development

20:09

around 2020. So there's still some stuff

20:11

that's a bit awkward for studios that's

20:13

got to be pushed out. But I

20:15

think when it comes to any kind

20:18

of arts council-y stuff, they're still so

20:20

insulated from public opinion. The change has

20:22

happened just as quickly as the woke

20:24

thing rose, you know, and you're going

20:27

to get a lot of people, particularly

20:29

in our industry, sort of saying I

20:31

was never pro-woke all the way. It's

20:33

happening so, so quickly. I mean, and

20:36

we saw it with the Jaguar adverts,

20:38

you know, like with, that was

20:40

clearly developed during the height of

20:42

the woke era, and you see these

20:44

sort of epicine gender fluid models,

20:46

you know, no cars, nothing like

20:48

that, and it just looks tired.

20:50

contemporary and I just think that's

20:53

what's going to happen is because woke

20:55

is sort of dying now. in about

20:57

two or three years, all of this

20:59

will just feel like that was weird.

21:02

What happened there? And I think the

21:04

arts industries, I think the museums, I

21:06

think the libraries, I think academia, those

21:08

are sort of the bolt holes for

21:11

the woke, those are the strongholds for

21:13

the woke, those are the strongholds and

21:15

I think they're not going to let

21:17

go without a fight. I think the

21:20

common industry definitely, you know, last year's

21:22

Edinburgh Fringe awards, but no one gives

21:24

a damn. about this, except for you

21:26

and your posh mates. Like the

21:28

audience is going here. I do

21:30

think that the art styling in

21:32

that way, any industry where a

21:34

woman can swish a Pashmina over

21:36

a shoulder before departing a meeting,

21:38

I think those industries will be

21:40

the last to fall. Right, we're going

21:43

to start off by talking about

21:45

UK politics and the spring statement

21:47

is this week, so let's get

21:49

into that. Right

21:58

so I don't know how to into UK

22:00

politics you are Andrew, but they're cuts.

22:02

They're cuts coming, they're cuts to the

22:04

civil service coming. I mean, I'm old

22:06

enough to remember that if you criticise

22:09

the civil service or said that there

22:11

should be cuts, it was part of

22:13

some sort of far right agenda. Do

22:16

you remember that under the toys? Is they're

22:18

trying to undermine the state this is so

22:20

they can push through their fascistic far right

22:22

agenda? They never did it. I mean, they

22:24

were talking for ages about the bonfire of

22:26

the quangos and stripping down the civil service

22:28

and they never really did it properly. They

22:30

never did a proper job and every single

22:32

whistleblower from the civil service who talks about

22:34

this stuff says that it's completely captured. You

22:36

even had that whistleblower talking about how when

22:38

the Tory government was trying to push through

22:40

certain policies, there were people within the civil

22:43

service just not doing it, just sort of

22:45

saying now we sort of know, but I

22:47

mean, this is the definition of deep state

22:49

stuff, isn't it? Well, yeah. And Starmer quite

22:51

quickly, you know, Dominic Cummings having been identified

22:53

as a sort of far right pariah. It

22:55

wasn't long before a centre left government were

22:57

basically saying Dominic Cummings stuff, so you can't

22:59

do anything with these look, can you?

23:01

But that moved from being bullying

23:03

to kind of an objective analysis

23:05

of their functioning. I mean, even

23:08

coming down to questioning the power of the OBR,

23:10

the Office of Budget Responsibility, you know, after

23:12

the catastrophic Liz Trusfing, which you're legally obliged,

23:14

you have to say catastrophic somewhere. But yeah,

23:16

but they questioned the power of the OBR

23:18

and the accuracy of the OBR. Labour are

23:20

doing all the same shit now. Because that's

23:22

the thing about, you know, colliding with the

23:25

brick wall of reality. It's all very well

23:27

theorizing about this stuff. And then when you're

23:29

actually having to deal with these people, you

23:31

suddenly realise, oh, well, maybe, maybe our predecessors

23:33

had a point, they have to strip all

23:35

of this because, you know, there's a lot

23:37

of waste going on. And these are the same

23:39

people, by the way, who are going to be

23:41

very, very angry about Doge and about what Elon

23:43

Musk is doing with the Trump administration. But really,

23:45

they're going to have to start replicating some of

23:48

those tactics. Do you think that, you know, in

23:50

Britain, we've got to give it a cute name

23:52

like Doge, and we need Merch. We need Merch

23:54

with the Osteri never had Merch, did it? I

23:56

mean, Doge was a perfect name because of the

23:58

whole dog meme. And, you know, that Doge - Yes,

24:00

yeah, it's quite a cute motif. I

24:02

mean, austerity was just, it was so

24:04

depressing and sad and we bought this

24:06

on ourselves, whereas Doge, straight away, I

24:08

mean, like, there'll be plenty of people

24:10

who even voted for Trump that won't

24:13

agree with all of it, but you'll

24:15

have to agree, that's some fucking good

24:17

merch. And I think everyone can kind

24:19

of agree, you know, there are elements

24:21

of Doge where you think, and even

24:23

USAID where you think, well, you know,

24:25

land, landmine clearance, that sounds like something

24:27

we should be investing. you know you

24:29

should be investing in overseas but then there's

24:32

the sort of Guatemalan LGBT pottery classes and

24:34

stuff and you kind of think all right

24:36

let's not do that because those are the

24:38

pet projects of the elites and I think

24:41

pretty much everyone on the left and the

24:43

right except that is nonsense and that should

24:45

never have been allowed. Yeah, well you say

24:47

that now Andrew, but when the good pottery

24:50

dries up from Guatemala, actually I don't want

24:52

to hear it. I don't want to hear

24:54

it. And I do have quite a strong

24:57

collection of Guatemalan pottery. It's a good talking

24:59

point. It makes me look progressive

25:01

when I have dinner guests around,

25:03

so it's quite good. Well you

25:05

can fund it, you can fund

25:07

it yourself. That's out of free

25:09

market work. I mean. and operations

25:11

in your urethra is eye watering.

25:13

I think that's the matter. Yeah,

25:15

eye watering. It's like when people

25:17

romp as well. You know when

25:20

the tabloids used to say they

25:22

romped till the small hours or

25:24

calling prisoners lags. Nobody else calls

25:26

prisoners lags. Only newspapers do because

25:28

it's a really short word and it

25:30

allows them to say more other words.

25:32

But yeah, there's eye water in numbers

25:35

there. Like one of my patrons sent

25:37

me this stat. with pit payments there's

25:39

five thousand just over five thousand

25:41

people on pit for final spinal

25:44

cord injuries but just under two

25:46

hundred and seventy thousand for anxiety

25:48

and depression right it's quite high

25:50

and motability this is just just

25:52

a stock right motability was a

25:54

four billion in 2019 seven billion

25:57

now so the difference between how

25:59

much motor is gone up is you could use

26:01

that to remove the welfare cap. I mean I'm you know

26:03

I'm a supporter of this kind of thing it's I

26:05

do think vulnerable people should be supported by the

26:07

state and I think that's that's all very well

26:09

and good but you know I think ultimately if

26:11

there is expenditure going to projects that aren't really

26:14

whether money's not going where it's meant to be

26:16

going then of course they have to tighten up

26:18

on that kind of stuff I just think there's

26:20

been a lot of flabbiness about it hasn't there.

26:22

May, don't bring flabby people into it, okay? This is what happens.

26:24

You're out there in Trump and you're engaging in this hate speech,

26:27

okay? No, well I wasn't going there. It's a condition. But I've

26:29

seen a few people over here and you know those carts that

26:31

really overweight people have, and they're often state-supply, but they

26:33

exacerbate the problem because they prevent the people who need to

26:35

move around from moving around. They prevent them. They prevent them

26:37

from walking. Yeah, it's a great, it's a great metaphor. It's

26:39

a great. It's a great. It's a great. It's a great.

26:41

It's a great. It's a great. It's a great. It's a great. It's a

26:44

great. It's a great. It's a great. It's a great. It's a great. It's a

26:46

great. It's a great. It's a great. It's a great. It's a great. It's a

26:48

great. It's a great. It's a great Okay, so how does

26:50

my anxiety go away? It doesn't, but we

26:52

don't have to think about it anymore. What

26:54

most people think? So just to chat

26:57

a bit about Kea Starmer now, because

26:59

he's going to be possibly involved with

27:01

doing a bit of austerity. Don't call

27:03

it austerity. Don't call it an emergency

27:05

budget. Definitely neither of those

27:08

things, but you know, he's such a

27:10

mixed bag. of political characteristics because on the

27:12

one hand the last budget was real tax

27:14

and spend and they did you know they

27:16

did some left-wing stuff right you know did

27:19

VAT on private schools and you know it

27:21

sort of hammered business I say that they're

27:23

not going to do it again and you

27:25

know he says that he's slashing regulation but

27:28

equally their employment bill has added a lot

27:30

of regulation as well and the school's

27:32

bill has bought a lot of stuff back

27:34

under their control and removed a lot of

27:36

freedoms. You know, and as I said in

27:38

the intro, he seems to be quite happy

27:40

cosy enough to Trump. He doesn't see, you

27:42

know, it might be transactional or strategic. He

27:44

doesn't seem to be that ill at ease

27:46

with it. What is he? He didn't go

27:48

as far as David Lammy, you know, David

27:51

Lammy wrote that Trump was a neo-Nazi sociopath.

27:53

Yeah. And then when Trump won, he put

27:55

out a tweet saying, oh congratulations, can't wait

27:57

to work with you, which makes me worried

27:59

about. David Lammy actually why is he talking

28:01

to neo-Nazis in that way that's creepy but when

28:04

I was with the president he's just such a

28:06

warm guy this is what they all do now

28:08

they go I just I just sat with him

28:10

for our Mandelson as well what is it? Mandelson

28:13

said that Donald Trump is a very kind person

28:15

now yeah but that's like Dracula saying yeah it's

28:17

very kind but he's the first person I've ever

28:19

thought I've ever heard say that, even other people

28:21

have toaded up to Trump. I've never heard anyone

28:24

say that. I've heard people say he's really nice

28:26

if you compliment him. And I mean that series,

28:28

like people who know him personally, they say, once

28:30

you've complimented him, that's it, he's your friend for

28:33

life. That would bear out in terms of his

28:35

behaviour. But it doesn't surprise me that Starman's cozing

28:37

up to him because he kind of has to.

28:39

I don't see what the option is here, what

28:42

the option is here, even when he was in

28:44

the option is here, even when he was in

28:46

the, even when he was in the Oval Office,

28:48

even when he was in the Oval Office, he

28:50

was in the Oval Office, and Trump and JD

28:53

Vance were pointing out that there are some free

28:55

speech issues in the UK and you know Starmer

28:57

couldn't be all that robust. What he said was

28:59

well I'm proud of the history of free speech.

29:02

Well yeah history is the right word there because

29:04

you're determined to demolish it. But it was it

29:06

was just interesting that he couldn't be more robust

29:08

in his rebuttal there because A he knows that

29:11

they're right and B he can't afford to piss

29:13

off Trump and Vance. But I mean what I

29:15

thought it was interesting about that was that he

29:17

had a little minor pop back at Jade event.

29:19

I wonder if Trump had said the same thing,

29:22

even if Trump had said exactly the same thing,

29:24

whether he'd have been quite as robust in the

29:26

context of Kirstalma being robust. I think he couldn't.

29:28

I think he couldn't go any further than that.

29:31

I mean, what was he going to say? Actually,

29:33

throwing murderers and rapists and violent criminals out of

29:35

prison to make room for people who've posted offensive

29:37

memes is completely in keeping with the principles of

29:40

free speech enshrined in our common law. He couldn't

29:42

say that, could he? So he had to just

29:44

sort of say, oh, I'm just, I'm very proud

29:46

of free speech while while he's... you know, plotting

29:48

to entirely overthrow it. I think it's, that's the

29:51

other thing about Starman, we can't pin him down

29:53

politically, we can't pin him down left or right

29:55

or, you know, I've always found it difficult to

29:57

square this, this story of him being an old

30:00

Trotskyist. with the kind of Hampstead lawyer, with his

30:02

kind of very pro-EU, anti-democracy,

30:04

you know, let's get the country to vote

30:06

again because they got it wrong. That seems

30:08

more right wing to me. The idea of

30:11

him buying in wholesale to gender identity ideology,

30:13

that's very much a bourgeois idea. So is

30:15

he really that leftist? I'm not sure. He

30:18

certainly doesn't seem to hold fast to any

30:20

particular point of view for a particularly long

30:22

length of time. So I don't know what

30:24

he is, but what we can definitely say

30:27

he is. But what we can definitely say

30:29

he is. is an authoritarian, like Bacon's DNA.

30:31

He is an authoritarian. He's someone

30:33

who believes that you should be

30:35

able to control the citizenry with

30:38

in terms of their speech and thought and

30:40

he will do everything he can to ensure

30:42

that outcome. So at least we know that

30:44

about him. I mean he's made that absolutely

30:46

perfectly clear and you know good on him

30:48

for that. I'm increasingly don't think he has

30:50

a sort of political anchor. What I

30:53

think guides him is a sense of

30:55

moral purpose. So it's not saying that

30:57

he's a lawyer, not a politician. Well,

30:59

human rights are, but I don't necessarily

31:01

mean that he's right or that he's

31:03

even following the right morals. But just

31:06

if he perceives that, he'll effectively go...

31:08

where the fish are biting. I

31:10

mean, it always remember with party

31:12

gate, the most fluent I've ever

31:15

seen stamers when he was telling

31:17

someone off. It never gets better

31:19

for him. I'm ever so disappointed.

31:22

I'm checking over there. I'd like

31:24

to be law breakers, can't be

31:26

law breakers, until of course he

31:28

employed somebody that was a law

31:31

breaker. He's absolutely an ineffectual deputy

31:33

headmaster, the kind who wouldn't, it

31:35

wouldn't quite land, so he'd have

31:37

to send you to the head eventually,

31:40

but he's going to come out with

31:42

those platitudes. That's exactly him. He's so

31:44

lacking in charisma, and I don't mean

31:47

to be mean on a personal level,

31:49

you know, I'm sure as a human

31:51

being he's perfectly nice, but he just

31:54

doesn't have that kind of presidential quality

31:56

that we've had from prime ministers, that

31:58

we've not his fault. That's just the

32:00

way he is, but but it does

32:02

trouble and I don't and I also

32:04

think you're right that it is well

32:06

-intentioned in so far as Authoritarianism is

32:09

often well -intentioned. I don't I'm not saying

32:11

that he believes he should censor people

32:13

out of malevolence I think he genuinely

32:15

believes That that's the way to a

32:17

better society. I do think that well,

32:19

mean we mentioned a literary reference earlier

32:21

I think he'd most likely be malevolio.

32:23

Yeah in the 12th night cross -garden

32:25

grinning That would work. He's definitely a

32:27

Puritan Was this a Toby Belch quote

32:29

does not think before because now after

32:31

Puritan that there should be no more

32:34

kicks and ale He's definitely that guy

32:36

Do you remember when he when he

32:38

taught one of his missions was that

32:40

he spoke about the smell of skunk

32:42

on the streets now I know that

32:44

the smell of skunk isn't great. It

32:46

was just such a weird thing For

32:48

him to dial into it may have

32:50

it may be his only legacy in

32:52

fairness. Did he actually use the word

32:54

skunk? I'm surprised that he smell of

32:56

hydropodic Skunk talk at that bubblegum shit

32:58

that Snoopish smoking. Do you know what

33:01

I think he should do is Like

33:03

you say he's too nice. He hasn't

33:05

got the the cloud I've been thinking

33:07

that he should take instead of Lammy

33:09

should take Angela Rainer on overseas trips

33:11

But both accounts apparently she likes them,

33:13

you know, especially if there's a free

33:15

safari going but the because she's his

33:17

bad cop Isn't she he can't do

33:19

the tough guy thing But Angela Rainer

33:21

any man in the world would look

33:23

at Angela Rainer and go fucking hell

33:25

she could kick off She don't let

33:28

me release the Angela. Don't let me

33:30

release them. Yeah, she's like it's all

33:32

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so much, although I've been following it online because

34:43

I'm addicted to social media, so I've very

34:45

much seen the reactions from all sides on

34:48

this and I haven't seen the show, I

34:50

need to absolutely, so I've absolutely no idea,

34:52

it might be brilliant. It might be terrible.

34:54

I'm slightly out of step with some of

34:56

the right on adolescence. I just watched it

34:58

as a drama, thought it was quite powerful.

35:00

The central performance, powerful doesn't mean like I

35:02

agreed with all the identity issues. I thought

35:04

it was well executed. The lad that plays

35:06

the central character was phenomenal. So I just

35:08

sort of thought interesting, you know, a drama

35:10

about things, but then you know people have picked

35:13

up on the identity issues. What's bugged me is the

35:15

way the sort of, you know, you know, center left

35:17

and progressives and progressives and progressives

35:19

and progressives, have immediately... dialed

35:22

into this debate about what's going

35:24

on with teenage boys, right? So

35:26

there's a window in time where

35:29

you could say, what is going

35:31

on? Are they okay, could be

35:33

the question you could ask, because

35:36

the overwhelming majority aren't killers, right?

35:38

You know, the overwhelming majority aren't

35:41

killers, right? You know, the overwhelming,

35:43

they might be disruptive, they might

35:45

be truculent, they might be truculent,

35:48

they might be a bit naughty,

35:50

That makes me definitely not want

35:52

to see it. You know, that kind

35:55

of endorsement. You show Moana in primary

35:57

schools, do you know what I mean?

35:59

Not fucking... troubling Netflix heroin drama. Yeah, you

36:01

showed Jesus and Nazareth and things like that, you

36:03

know. The thing is, I don't warm to drama

36:06

where there's quite a clear moralistic message, you know,

36:08

I find that really banal. And so the fact

36:10

that parliamentarians are interpreting it in that way makes

36:12

me think it's probably not very good. And, you

36:14

know, I'm not impressed by it. People keep saying

36:16

it's all done in one shot, but, you know,

36:18

the spice girls want to be video was done

36:21

in one shot. You know, you know, you know,

36:23

that's a gimmick as far as far as far

36:25

as far as far as far as far as

36:27

far as far as I can see. I would

36:29

say that there's one particular moment where they

36:31

executed to good effect at the end of

36:33

episode 2. It has a point to it.

36:36

I mean it's funny we're now getting dragged

36:38

we're talking about whether it's filmed on drones

36:40

but what it seemed to unleash was there

36:42

was a group of people that would go

36:44

on you know channel 4 news and various

36:46

mainstream media outlets and all they seem to

36:49

want to do is you know they mentioned

36:51

Andrew Tate and as I've said many times

36:53

on this I would imagine young men have

36:55

moved on from Andrew Tate and they may

36:57

work they're probably they're definitely are toxic influences

36:59

but we probably don't know who the fuck

37:01

they are. is the main thing right but

37:04

what a lot of them tended to say

37:06

was that we should tell young men right

37:08

get this Andrew wait for this it's okay

37:10

to have feelings okay and we've got to

37:12

tell them it's okay to cry and I

37:14

sort of thought that's been a fucking mainstream

37:16

message for a long time I mean I

37:18

feel like we've been having that chat for

37:21

about 15 years and during that time everything's

37:23

got worse so all the evidences is

37:25

that's doing nothing I just don't buy

37:27

into this idea of this crisis of

37:29

masculinity in so far as I think

37:32

there's always been issues that boys have

37:34

that are specific to boys that need

37:36

to be addressed, but I just don't

37:38

buy this idea. I mean like the

37:40

constant figure you hear is about Andrew Tate,

37:42

but Andrew Tate, as far as I

37:44

understand it, is even an outlier on

37:46

the Manosphere, you know, in that whole world, like

37:49

most of the male influences are all

37:51

about, you know, getting fit and eating

37:53

and eating well and all these positive

37:55

things. Effectively it's reducing everything to that old

37:57

idea of toxic masculinity. There's a lot of that sort

37:59

of stuff. going on. And you know there's

38:01

been a lot of pushback from the right

38:04

saying that this was based on a stabbing

38:06

in North London which was a black kid

38:08

stabbing. So now I don't know if that's

38:10

true. That kind of criticism I find pointless

38:13

as well because this is a fictional creative

38:15

piece of work. They can do it about

38:17

whatever the hell they like. They can make

38:20

the characters whatever race they like. It's not

38:22

like when they made a film about Anne

38:24

Boleyn and made her black. which is just

38:26

factually historically wrong. Yeah, it's almost like them,

38:29

they're doing a similar thing that's happening on

38:31

the other side, because they're making it about

38:33

an identity issue within it. It's not government

38:36

policy, it's not a documentary, it's a piece

38:38

of drama. And I would say this, is

38:40

that I think I'm totally open-minded. Oh, here's

38:42

a point, I forgot to say this last

38:45

week, is some people, but they wouldn't make

38:47

a show about black. kids in London and

38:49

knife crumbs. Well they did five series of

38:51

top boys which was a predominantly black cast

38:54

and it was all about drugs and guns

38:56

and knives. So I'm not sure that's a

38:58

fair critique of Netflix in this instance and

39:01

also think the central performance of this young

39:03

lad in it you can have to show

39:05

me who could have been better in that

39:07

main role first because if you're not casting

39:10

people on who can... at the best, then

39:12

you'll fall in prey to some of the

39:14

woke thinking about where you've got a cast

39:17

based on identity rather than skill. I do

39:19

think it's fair to say that would they

39:21

have the would they have had the balls

39:23

to make it a black kid? I think

39:26

that's a perfectly legitimate question. But equally, the

39:28

kid in it is so good that, yeah,

39:30

I'd like to know the alternative was. I

39:33

think that's right. I mean, you know, whenever

39:35

you get these kind of shows, you always

39:37

get this, there is this sense and it

39:39

is true, but in terms of the television

39:42

industry and in terms of what gets commissioned,

39:44

you're only going to get a very narrow

39:46

thing of what can be conceivably commissioned. So

39:49

you can have a story about a white

39:51

kid who stabbed someone. black people. Similarly, you

39:53

wouldn't have a, it would be very difficult

39:55

to get commissioned a story about honor killing,

39:58

say, and the impact that has on women.

40:00

within the Islamic community, although that is a

40:02

story that should be told because that's something

40:04

that affects an awful lot of people. So

40:07

yeah, you can have those debates, but that's

40:09

not the fault of the people who made

40:11

this film. This is the story they chose

40:14

to tell. It got commissioned. So let's just

40:16

talk about, you know, the story as it

40:18

is, you know, I don't, making it all

40:20

about identity and saying that they've, you know,

40:23

I've seen a lot of memes, but with

40:25

a picture of, you know, that, the Southport

40:27

killer with an image of the guy from

40:30

adolescence saying this is what they, they've turned

40:32

this into this. That's simply not what's happened

40:34

here. That isn't, that isn't the case. It

40:36

does sound like, in the same way that

40:39

I never liked Jimmy like Jimmy McGovern, Jimmy

40:41

McGovern stuff. They feel like fairy stories to

40:43

me. They've got a moral. They want to

40:46

tell a story with a moral. And it

40:48

feels quite childlike. It feels quite childish. There's

40:50

certainly a case that towards the end of

40:52

it, it gets very on the nose. Like,

40:55

by the way, if you haven't worked out

40:57

what we're trying to tell you, it's almost

40:59

like there's almost like, you might as well

41:01

have got in a kind of hercule pyro

41:04

summing up. And that's why I feel like.

41:06

when that is happening more and more in

41:08

adult entertainment. Like there's a really good film

41:11

by, was it, who was it, was it,

41:13

Michael Hanukkah back in the day about a

41:15

boy who stabs a girl, teenage boy just

41:17

stabs a girl and there's no real reason

41:20

for it. And you never really find out

41:22

why he does it. And the parents just

41:24

try and cover it up and it's disturbing

41:27

and nasty and chilling. If you read Charlie

41:29

and the chocolate factory, that is so moralistic

41:31

in a really funny way, you know, the

41:33

guy lures in to his factory all these

41:36

kids with terrible habits. And not only does

41:38

he pick them off one by one, he

41:40

has a tribe of umpalumpas to sing song

41:43

gloating about why if you watch too much

41:45

TV or if you chew too much gum

41:47

or if you're too spoiled, then you deserve

41:49

to go up the shoot and you deserve

41:52

to be incinerating. That's a kind of kind

41:54

of funny approach. I think

41:56

that government campaign that

41:59

we need actually just

42:01

to shame kids into

42:03

behaving better I

42:07

saw this thread by this guy called Justin

42:09

Bowen who's done some work in the areas

42:11

of kind of troubled young men right so

42:13

he made some points and I think they're

42:15

really worth repeating is one is that teenage

42:17

boys are testosterone fueled right so from about

42:19

the age of 11 through to 19 it

42:21

will be the highest levels of testosterone they

42:23

have in their body and I sort of

42:25

thought is this another point where the left

42:27

are missing the importance of biology and sex

42:29

right where you go that's the reality of

42:31

being a boy that you know and testosterone

42:33

is a hormone that promotes aggression and risks

42:35

now not saying that we should say fine

42:37

they can be as aggressive and risky as

42:39

they want but you've got to meet them

42:41

where they are and and you've got to

42:43

channel that right so this is this is

42:45

the thesis of Christina Hoff Summers book the

42:48

war against boys and she talks about

42:50

uh and she provides evidence for this idea

42:52

that we've effectively been treating boys uh and

42:54

medicalizing boys because they're not behaving like girls

42:56

you know and and they have a propensity

42:58

for certain certain type of behavior rough and

43:00

tumble play all sorts of things that

43:02

are much more prevalent within within boyhood and

43:04

that we shouldn't be treating boyhood as a

43:06

problem to be fixed we need to recognize

43:08

that they have these traits exactly what

43:10

you say and deal with them appropriately I

43:13

mean that's not to suggest that the

43:15

the kind of hyper testosterone fueled antisocial behavior

43:17

should just be ignored and you can

43:19

you can see how social media influencers are

43:21

a new thing that is potentially dangerous

43:23

because teenage boys can have their head turned

43:25

um but yeah if they identify someone

43:27

as a leader who cares about them there

43:29

is that danger they could be a

43:31

sort of pipe piper of toxicity but that's

43:33

not the only thing going on in

43:36

their lives there's there's fabulous households there's poor

43:38

academic outcomes and and the other

43:40

thing as well is like you

43:42

know the media will forget about this very shortly

43:44

right and we'll go back to as as we

43:46

were but during the time that we spoke about

43:48

this and we need better male role models and

43:50

the one that they all seem to center on

43:52

today was Jamie Lang who was used to be

43:54

on Made in Chelsea met him nice bloke you

43:57

know he's run chari marathons for chari but because

43:59

he cried So they just go like

44:01

well look this is what we need to

44:03

show young men this is what we need

44:05

to show it's okay a Christ like Jesus

44:07

Christ and maybe we should just teach him

44:09

to do performative crying to get everyone off

44:11

their case. Yeah I mean they you know

44:13

role model there's something to be said for

44:15

role models but why that why not like

44:17

Conan the Barbarian someone like that someone is

44:19

strong but but ultimately a decent fellow you

44:22

know yes. Am I misremembering that film?

44:24

I think he's quite a decent child.

44:26

I mean he does a few, I

44:28

think he does a few beheadings, but

44:30

they're only of people that deserved it.

44:32

Okay, now for the patrons, we're going to

44:34

be talking about the woke right. For everybody

44:36

else, it'll be the end of the show.

44:42

Okay, so this is the end of the show.

44:44

And listen, man, if you're not a patriot, I

44:46

think Andrew's analysis of the woke left versus the

44:48

woke right is something that you want to hear.

44:51

I mean, just to sum it, I'm not going

44:53

to give it away, but it sort of sounds

44:55

like over correction is the biggest problem in humanity.

44:57

Andrew, it's always like, you know that girl that

45:00

sort of said, well, they had a drug dealer

45:02

for three years, and you're going, right, right, you're

45:04

finding out of that you're finding out of that

45:06

relationship, you're finding out of that relationship, you're finding

45:08

out of that relationship, Maybe split the difference love.

45:11

Isn't that the instinct though? We always go

45:13

too far the other way. You know,

45:15

I got a bit annoyed about Starmas

45:17

and now I'm in Arizona. It's too

45:19

much. You've got, I've gone too far.

45:22

Yeah, so I was going to say

45:24

in the middle, yes, but I don't

45:26

know, that'll be somewhere in the Atlantic.

45:28

Maybe there should be a floating country

45:30

for disaffected persons. Something like that. Yeah.

45:33

Well, Andrew, obviously, I can't send people

45:35

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45:41

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I always do a couple of articles a

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