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recap season 13, episode 10. It's the

1:09

lucky six. I'm so excited to

1:11

see everyone back together. So

1:13

first up to perform was

1:15

the mad scientist monster. So

1:18

played sports, loves his

1:20

life. Spoiler

1:22

alert, it's not Keith Urban, which I

1:24

don't know who guessed Keith Urban. I

1:26

think someone did before, but definitely not

1:29

Keith Urban. But shared a stage with him. Right,

1:32

but shared a stage. The

1:34

clue is the Tennessee flag. And

1:36

he's saying, there's nothing holding

1:38

me back by Shawn Mendes. So,

1:42

babe, he drives one

1:44

of your favorite cars that you

1:46

like. That you had. That

1:48

I had and sold. A Ford

1:50

Raptor. He's won many

1:52

awards. And you guys,

1:54

I just. Maybe it's Preston. Preston,

1:57

look at. It's not Preston. I

1:59

love you. Tennessee flag drives a Raptor.

2:01

No. Jenny

2:03

Guest, Kenny Chesney, Robin said Trace

2:05

Adkins, Rita said Tim McGraw. You guys,

2:07

I'm still going Ronnie Dunn. I

2:09

don't think Scotty, I was kind of

2:11

maybe thinking Scotty McCreary for a hot

2:13

second, but you know, the many awards,

2:16

I know he's won a few,

2:18

but I still think Ronnie Dunn. I

2:20

don't, maybe Trace,

2:22

but I

2:24

still think it's Ronnie Dunn

2:26

is my clue.

2:28

You will be the expert here.

2:30

Tennessee flag, country singer. Yeah.

2:33

I'm going to go with your guess, babe. But there's also

2:35

like so many country singers, but maybe that's a

2:37

college. Maybe someone went to college. I don't

2:40

know, but I'm still going to go with, um,

2:43

with Ronnie Dunn on that one. Second

2:45

up to perform, but it was a great performance. It

2:48

was, yeah. His voice is

2:50

smooth, like a butter. Smooth? Someone

2:53

else, my neighbor texted me because she's

2:55

a crazy fan of the Masked Singer.

2:57

And she's like, yeah, she's, um, she's

3:00

like, I think it's Joe Nichols. I

3:02

may be here, but TBD.

3:05

Second up to perform is Nessie.

3:07

A very private guy, but loving

3:09

being back in the spotlight. The

3:12

spoiler alert is not Pat Monahan. The

3:15

Clue is touring in 2025 and he sang

3:18

Stargazing by Miles Smith, which I just

3:20

love that song so much. Apparently

3:23

he has a lot of kids because he says feels like he's

3:25

got a hundred. He loves TikTok

3:28

and actually follows Jenny. And he's arguably

3:30

one of the most famous, or

3:32

he has one of the most famous

3:34

love songs. Yeah, so this

3:36

kind of, this

3:38

throws me out because I just

3:40

don't, I don't have a

3:42

clue. Like, to be honest,

3:44

this episode, Ken's guesses are outrageous.

3:47

Yeah, he said Sting. Outrageous. Not

3:49

like all of his guesses.

3:51

Absolutely outrageous. Selena Gomez on

3:53

the next one. I

3:56

mean, yeah, I,

3:58

I'm kind of think, so again,

4:00

I just go to like, what about

4:02

love songs? Like Brian Adams is a big

4:04

love song guy. Oh

4:06

God, who's the other guy actually did a song with him

4:09

way back in the day. I can't

4:11

remember. Robin

4:13

said Edwin McCain, Rita

4:15

says Dave Matthews. I could, I

4:17

could see the Dave Matthews. Well,

4:19

name's been mentioned a lot. It

4:21

has. Possibly. But I still don't

4:24

really know. Third up to perform

4:26

was Choral. So

4:28

she wants to perform

4:30

more. She

4:34

sang Ain't It

4:36

Fun by Paramore.

4:38

And Rapid Fire, so she's

4:40

in the Disney franchise,

4:42

doesn't come from a famous

4:44

family. Jenny Guest,

4:46

Rachel Ziegler, Robin, Brittany Snow,

4:49

Ken said Selena Gomez.

4:51

Brittany, I know. I

4:53

mean, I feel like she's so, well, I mean,

4:55

I guess. by the franchises

4:57

and Rita Ora's family? She's

4:59

not Disney though, Rita Ora, is she? I

5:03

don't know. I

5:05

have no idea. She's British and something. So

5:07

I'm not really sure, but I don't really

5:09

love any of those guesses, to be honest

5:11

with you. Which yours? I

5:15

can't remember. I

5:18

honestly can't remember who I thought.

5:22

I don't know. I'm like super thrown off by that

5:24

one, but she's got a great voice. She's

5:26

so good. Maybe Rachel Ziegler.

5:28

I could see that. Fourth

5:30

up to performance, Paparazzo, who's one of

5:33

my faves. He's never sung before. The

5:35

song is the biggest clue

5:37

to his identity. He sang Unpretty

5:39

by TLC. And

5:42

he's been on a TV show.

5:44

He's been on TMZ. And

5:46

guess is where Jenny said

5:48

Matthew Lawrence. Ken said Ben

5:50

Savage. Rita said Jason Ritter. From

5:53

all the clues, I definitely think

5:55

it's Matthew Lawrence. No,

5:57

I do. So,

5:59

but I also have

6:02

a little spoiler alert. It's

6:04

Crush? No. Yeah,

6:06

a little bit. 12 -year -old Jana? Yeah. Fifth

6:09

up to performance, Pearl. Love

6:13

showing a different side of her. Spoiler

6:15

alert, not Shania Twain. but we knew

6:17

that song. They sang Conga by Gloria

6:19

Estefan. And this

6:21

one again, I'm just

6:23

not quite sure. Jenny

6:25

says Faith Hill. Robin

6:27

said Melissa Etheridge. The

6:29

colossal clue was Elvis. Yeah,

6:32

I just, I still kind

6:35

of think it's maybe Gretchen

6:37

Wilson, but that could be

6:39

a terrible clue. But I

6:41

thought she did great. Sixth

6:43

at the perform was Boogie

6:45

Woogie. And

6:48

spoiler alert, has kids

6:51

saying unsteady by the

6:53

ex -ambassadors. Rapid

6:55

Fire Jenny is always smiling, famous

6:57

for his voice, basketball's his favorite

6:59

sport, public heartbreak. The

7:02

guesses were Darren, Chris, Chris

7:04

Martin, Ryan Tedder. I

7:06

kind of

7:09

feel like it's

7:11

still maybe... Andy

7:14

Grammar, but TBD, the,

7:16

the revealing, um, ended

7:18

up being the person that

7:20

went home is Matthew Lawrence and

7:22

he was paparazzo. It's going

7:24

home and, uh, we actually have

7:26

him on. So, so exciting.

7:28

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7:31

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8:01

listen to us online on the iHeartRadio app. Hey.

8:10

going on, guys? How you doing? All

8:12

right. How are you? I'm good. Thank

8:14

you. So I totally knew it was

8:16

you. We'll just dive right into it.

8:18

Okay. But like,

8:20

I got to be honest, I didn't

8:22

think that you, I mean, I don't ever

8:24

remember hearing you sing. Well, you

8:26

know, did I miss something back in the 90s?

8:29

Because I had you on my wall. I told my

8:31

husband, I was like, hey, so just so we're

8:33

clear, I'm just going to like clear the air. I

8:35

had JTT and Matthew Lawrence on my wall. I'm

8:37

sorry. I just got to like say it. Well,

8:40

you know, I'm sure JT and I

8:42

both appreciate it very much. But

8:45

yeah, no, you know, it's weird.

8:47

We started out as a musical family

8:49

in. you know, in New York

8:51

and Manhattan. And that's what's like, you know, piano

8:54

lessons, guitar lessons, singing, dancing, and then, you

8:56

know, acting took us to LA. And so

8:58

we didn't really follow through with that. My

9:00

older brother did quite a bit. He had

9:03

an album out, but we never did like,

9:05

I don't know, I never did it. And

9:07

I, to be honest, I was always kind

9:09

of scared of it. It was like my

9:11

big stage fright moment. uh

9:14

i had to this was great because

9:16

it was like i could get over

9:18

but i could wear a mask so

9:20

i didn't no one could see me

9:22

that was the the real real highlight

9:24

for me but you're so good oh

9:26

thanks i'm serious like so so so

9:28

good i mean obviously from the clues

9:30

and stuff that you know the acting

9:32

clues all of that so i'm like

9:34

okay he's definitely an actor but i'm

9:36

like the dude can sing yeah absolutely

9:38

absolutely thanks guys i was just looking

9:40

back at my notes here on paparazzo

9:43

from the the previous weeks and

9:45

there's like must be a singer nine

9:47

out of ten and he's he's

9:50

scottish so he's a tough critic you

9:52

know what i mean like they're

9:54

they don't really wear warmth on their

9:56

sleeve you know what i mean

9:58

so i mean did did your girlfriend

10:00

give you any tips for being

10:02

on the stage because you know yes

10:04

absolutely she's uh you know such

10:06

a And yeah,

10:08

you know, she told me something

10:10

that Prince told her. Oh, just

10:13

Prince. Yeah, just Prince.

10:15

Yeah, but you really have to pace

10:17

yourself. And because, you know, going out

10:19

there and moving and singing, especially when

10:21

you're not touring or used to it,

10:23

you can just die real quick. Like,

10:25

you know, 20 seconds of doing that.

10:28

And you can be out of breath

10:30

and not. So you really got to

10:32

pace yourself. And she kind of took

10:34

me through how. to kind of, you

10:36

know, start and kind of build. And

10:38

so, yeah, she's been, you know, really

10:40

helpful. And you've got the weight

10:42

of a costume on as well. Oh, my

10:45

gosh. That was, you know, that's something

10:47

I think people don't quite understand, you know,

10:49

especially the costume I had. I had

10:51

this huge cowl. I mean, it was massive,

10:53

right? And it was attached to a

10:55

rod going down my back. And I had

10:57

no movement, right? And so you can't

10:59

even... I depressed the mic up against this

11:02

like grate. And of course the grate

11:04

is not a hundred percent where my mouth

11:06

is. So it was, that was one

11:08

of the biggest things to overcome for sure

11:10

was, was singing through that cowl because

11:12

you, you, you know, when you go to

11:14

hit certain notes, you, you, you, you

11:16

need to kind of, it was tough stuff.

11:18

That wasn't easy, but yeah. And then

11:21

you can't see, I was telling my husband

11:23

when I was doing it, I'm like,

11:25

okay, imagine looking through a coffee filter. That

11:27

is what you see. Exactly. Literally

11:29

nothing. it's wild and

11:31

there's there's choreography and i'm supposed to be

11:34

in sync with the dancers and stuff and

11:36

i'm like i literally i would tell the

11:38

dancers i'd be like you you gotta hit

11:40

like come up and literally hit me to

11:42

let me know where i'm supposed to be

11:44

on stage because i've got no peripheral vision

11:46

i've got no idea where i even am

11:48

out there basically i'm trying to figure it

11:50

out it's crazy it's so fun you know

11:52

yeah We just did an episode on our

11:54

other podcast and we were talking about how

11:56

it's really hard to have a friend group

11:58

of three. And so you and your brothers,

12:00

there's three. Is there one that's left out

12:03

the most? Because I just don't three, I

12:05

don't think threes work, you know, in friend

12:07

groups. So I'm thinking, I'm like, all right,

12:09

a family, like who's left out of the

12:11

brothers the most? You

12:14

know, I'm going to have to

12:16

agree to disagree you on this. Oh,

12:18

the brothers thing works of three.

12:20

The three of us, it's actually, It's

12:22

crucial that there are three because

12:24

we always go with this one rule

12:26

where we say it's two out

12:28

of three when we make decisions. So

12:30

if somebody can't make a decision

12:32

on something, if two think this is

12:34

the way to go, that's the

12:36

way we're going to go. And it

12:38

really helps make a lot of

12:40

decisions for us. So it's been great.

12:42

No, we don't really have that.

12:44

There are periods where... Joe

12:47

and I will talk a little more. Andy

12:49

and Joe will talk a little more. There are

12:51

periods where we go through that, but it's

12:53

never been ones always sort of left out. It's

12:56

never been that much for us. Well, that's

12:58

good. I was watching some of your videos. I

13:00

think they must be TikTok videos. Oh,

13:02

yeah. Hilarious.

13:05

New world, man. It's a new

13:07

world out there. We're

13:09

dancing on the TikTok videos,

13:11

and it's great. No,

13:13

but I think... People love to see, especially

13:15

my generation too. And then those that are, you

13:17

know, just finding, cause I feel like, you

13:19

know, especially in that world, TikTok and everybody, you

13:21

know, you guys, you separately

13:23

is obviously like, you're amazing, but you

13:26

three together, it's so special. And there's

13:28

such a, obviously the bond with the,

13:30

you know, your brothers, but I don't

13:32

know. I think I love seeing you

13:34

guys together and you have your podcast.

13:36

So what, you know, for people that

13:38

are listening to go switch to your

13:40

pod after this one. What what do

13:42

you guys like to what do you

13:44

guys talk about the most on yours?

13:47

And yeah. You

13:49

know, our our podcast is just it really

13:51

is just dinner table talk. It's it's

13:53

like, you know, a peek into a conversation

13:55

between three brothers who, you know, we

13:57

all love each other, but we all come

13:59

from different points of view. And,

14:01

you know, we always hash it out. It's

14:04

always based in comedy. You know, we're trying

14:06

to make you have a good time with

14:08

us. That's what we try to do with

14:10

each other. We use laughter to heal that

14:12

we always have. Sometimes in uncomfortable situations, it's

14:14

not the best. But, you know, I've actually

14:16

had to explain myself before where there are

14:18

these sad moments and I'll throw in a

14:20

joke. You know, sometimes it doesn't go over

14:22

too well. And I'm just like, well, I

14:24

try to heal with with laughter. And I

14:26

think Joe and Andy, my brothers, both feel

14:28

the same way. So, you know, it's just

14:30

it's just a fun time. We will pick

14:32

topics from time to time. And

14:35

yeah, you just you're basically it's like you

14:37

go to dinner with us and we have

14:39

a good conversation. That's that's just pretty much

14:41

it. Yeah. And I think I

14:43

mean, you you probably just said it. But

14:45

for you, when you are going through

14:47

hard times, obviously you guys and you personally

14:49

have been in the press. We

14:52

both get it. We were

14:54

divorced previously. So where do

14:56

you find that kind of

14:58

comfort in and then kind

15:00

of letting go of the

15:02

noise? Well,

15:04

I think it's just that. For

15:06

a long period of time, I

15:08

went through wanting to be or

15:10

having a desire to be liked

15:12

and appreciated by people. And I

15:14

think that is... That can lead

15:16

you into the wrong direction. I

15:18

think you got to be true

15:20

to yourself. And, you know, listen,

15:22

when things are said about you,

15:24

whether they're true or false, I

15:26

feel like unless something is unless

15:29

somebody is just continues to go

15:31

out there and try to. you

15:33

know, degrade you. I really just think you

15:35

got to stay out of it. I think the

15:37

more that you jump in on that, especially

15:39

if it's untrue, I think the more weight you

15:41

give to it. I think you just got

15:43

to move on and you just got to, you

15:45

know, realize that that's the kind of, again,

15:47

that's the world we live in. And, and also

15:49

these things. the one blessing about

15:51

how fast the world moves these days is

15:53

that, and there's another story the next morning

15:55

and like, Oh, the next, the next hour, you're

15:58

good. Yeah. That's literally the next hour. Somebody

16:00

else is going to be talking about somebody else

16:02

tomorrow, you know? So, yeah, no, I think

16:04

it's true. And it's hard. Cause I think people

16:06

heal in all different ways. Like for me,

16:08

like I was the person that I just couldn't

16:10

shut up about it. I still, you know,

16:12

talk about it, but you know, we all heal

16:15

in different ways and trying to try to

16:17

navigate. I

16:19

just think, I do believe, if

16:21

you do look at my social presence

16:23

out there, I do give a

16:25

tad of my personal life, but I

16:27

don't live my personal life on

16:29

social media. I don't expose my relationship.

16:32

I don't overexpose my home life.

16:34

And I think that's also important. I

16:36

just don't want to live my

16:38

life out there. So when it comes

16:40

to... You know, the good and

16:42

the bad times. I think you've got

16:44

to take wins and your failures

16:47

in private. And I think my job

16:49

out there on social media is

16:51

to entertain, is to make people laugh,

16:53

maybe, you know, crack a smile.

16:55

That's my goal. Outside of that, all

16:57

my personal feelings about things, they're

16:59

mine. I'm not going to interject them.

17:02

Well, and it's too easy for people to pick

17:04

it apart. Like, that's always been my biggest.

17:07

Of course. regret is sharing so much

17:09

because then I'm like, well, I just

17:11

allowed them to pick it apart and allowed

17:13

them to then question my judgment on

17:15

things or, you know, so, but you know,

17:17

you live and you learn. Well, you

17:19

try. Yeah. You try. So you've been in

17:21

some, you've been in some really big

17:23

movies and TV shows. What have you got

17:25

coming up acting wise? Do you have

17:27

anything on the horizon? Yeah, there,

17:29

there is, there's a, there's a project coming

17:31

up. They'll be shooting this summer, which

17:33

I'm really excited about. There's

17:35

a couple of projects that I'm working

17:37

with my brothers on as well. I'm

17:40

behind the camera. I'll be,

17:42

you know, exec producing the movie.

17:44

And we've got a TV

17:46

show that we're making right now.

17:48

And we've got the YouTube

17:50

content. So not busy at

17:52

all. Got it. No, lots going on.

17:54

Yeah. You

17:56

can't leave out the fact that it's springtime

17:58

and I'm redoing my backyard reptile zoo. And

18:00

that's a lot of work as well. Oh,

18:03

yeah, I got it. I mean, like, is

18:05

your girlfriend in on that? Because I don't

18:07

know, like, how I would be if you

18:09

were like, hey, let's have a reptile zoo.

18:11

What size of reptiles are we talking? Because

18:13

he's like a big Komodo dragon dude. Oh,

18:15

you are? So I've got a water monitor,

18:17

a melanistic water monitor. He's just a juvie

18:19

right now, about three feet. But, you know,

18:21

they're... They're very closely related to the Komodo

18:24

dragons. They're all part of the monitor species.

18:26

So I've got my foot in there as

18:28

well. But I got lots, man. It's a

18:30

legitimate zoo. I mean, I don't do it

18:32

just to have pets either. I work with

18:34

endangered species. Okay. Oh, like

18:36

people get tickets to go to the zoo? Well.

18:39

So no, it's like, Hey,

18:42

let's go to Matthew Lawrence's

18:44

backyard. But it's, it's cool.

18:46

Like, you know, I mean, eventually, yes. Like my

18:48

mom is a teacher and she works at a

18:50

school and we're going to start that. going to

18:52

have a summer program where the kids come over

18:54

and, you know, we do that.

18:56

And I'm going to start to open that

18:58

up more and more because it really is

19:00

for educational purposes. And I, you know, I'm

19:02

putting a lot of time and effort now

19:05

also into the. the the visual experience of

19:07

it because i think that's something that people

19:09

don't understand about you know the reptiles and

19:11

amphibians it's not just the animals themselves it's

19:13

recreating the environment so there's an escapism to

19:15

it you know i've got a little piece

19:17

of the amazon i've got a little piece

19:19

of the caribbean you know i've got a

19:21

little bit of the southwest deserts and i've

19:23

got all these little environments that when you

19:26

step into you actually kind of feel like

19:28

you're there you know everything you really fine

19:30

-tune everything from the temperature to the humidity

19:32

to the smells and the type of plants

19:34

like the creosote bush from our southwest deserts

19:36

out here they produce this Incredible

19:38

fragrance. It's really

19:40

immersive. And that's the whole point of

19:42

it. And it's just to show

19:44

people that the environment and the food

19:46

chain is very finely tuned. And

19:48

these little creatures that sometimes we just

19:50

step over are very important rungs

19:52

on that food chain. And they're also

19:54

incredibly telling to the health of

19:57

the food chain. And so it's very

19:59

important that we pay attention to

20:01

these type of animals. Hey, I'm obsessed

20:03

with your passion for reptiles. one

20:08

like one piece that i'm just like like

20:10

i don't even at zoos i don't go

20:12

in the reptiles i let like my kids

20:14

it's like their favorite and then you know

20:16

i'm like all right alan this is your

20:18

yeah my first question is have you got

20:20

komodo dragons if you have komodo dragons then

20:22

i'm not paying to get in your zoo

20:24

here's the thing here's the thing um komodo

20:27

dragons are highly illegal and dangerous no i'm

20:29

talking about if we go to a zoo

20:31

a city i'm like my first question is

20:33

do you have a komodo dragon if not

20:35

I'm not interested. Oh, got it, got it,

20:37

got it, got it. Yeah, no, I'll tell

20:39

you, yeah, they're amazing. I actually

20:41

got, you know, I've been all over

20:43

the world in, you know. in

20:46

search of reptiles. And I had

20:48

the most amazing experience of being

20:50

in Indonesia and actually seeing them

20:52

in the wild. And man, they

20:54

are, they're just, they're living dragons,

20:56

man. I mean, they're one of

20:58

the coolest apex reptiles you got

21:00

on the planet. I mean, them,

21:02

the Burmese, the anaconda, these are

21:04

the top, top of the food

21:06

chain. I mean, when you see

21:08

how fast a 12 to 14

21:10

foot, you know, 300 pound

21:12

lizard can move, it's shocking. It's

21:15

really cool. Impressive. I've seen a

21:17

lot of videos online where they

21:19

catch goats and eat them whole

21:21

within seconds. I mean, that should

21:23

have been your stage costume. Should

21:25

have been like a big old

21:27

reptile on Mass Singer. I

21:29

went in pitching that, but they

21:31

had this did? That's amazing. I

21:35

don't know. I saw the eyes and

21:37

it kind of had me at the eyes,

21:39

so I went with it. Is

21:54

there a quote that you

21:56

remember from being with Robin on

21:58

Missed Outfire that you kind

22:00

of or like a memory that

22:02

you take with you from

22:04

that experience? Oh, so

22:06

many. It's hard to pick. I

22:08

can't even imagine working with him. And

22:11

then, you know, I'm just the. Yeah,

22:13

no, it's definitely one of the highlights

22:15

of my life. I mean, you know,

22:18

and every moment on that set, you

22:20

know, with Robin

22:22

was. you know,

22:24

I didn't know it at the

22:26

time, but was impactful. And the

22:28

fact that this man also had

22:30

such compassion that, know, I'm thinking

22:32

about it now, I was 12

22:34

years old, and he accepted me

22:36

in a way that most adults

22:38

didn't accept me, whether I was

22:40

in a working environment or anything

22:42

else. I mean, he really took

22:44

me under his wing. You know,

22:46

he allowed me in, I think

22:48

one of the most impactful things

22:50

that he allowed me inside his

22:52

world, to see what it

22:54

was like to live with

22:56

that yin and yang of incredibly

22:58

high and incredibly low. And

23:00

I think he did that because

23:03

he wanted me to truly

23:05

understand that you've got to protect

23:07

your brain and your health. And

23:09

he really steered me away

23:11

from drugs and alcohol. He really

23:13

felt like that was one

23:15

of the main contributors to why

23:17

his brain was so unstable. And,

23:21

you know, I tell you, it

23:23

scared the crap out of me.

23:25

He really put the fear of

23:27

God in me when it comes

23:29

to that kind of stuff. And

23:31

I'll tell you, when I was

23:33

around it, you know, I didn't

23:35

do it because of him. And

23:37

who knows where I would have

23:39

gone, you know? And so just

23:42

that alone, let alone the comedic

23:44

timing and the just, he's just,

23:46

he to me is just one

23:48

of the absolute unique. one

23:50

of a kind artists that there will ever

23:52

be in that field. It's just, it's epic. Well,

23:54

thank you for sharing that. Yeah. I mean,

23:56

what we could, if only we could go back

23:58

older generations and meet the people, you know,

24:00

I always think about that too. It's like, oh,

24:02

if I, you know, when my

24:04

grandpa passed, I was like, I should have spent more time with him

24:06

or, you know, just things like, there's so many things that when you're

24:08

younger, you wish that you would have done instead of, you know. He

24:11

also does an amazing Scottish accent. Have

24:13

you heard these? I have. Yeah. I think

24:15

he sent me that one time on

24:17

a meme. Have you heard that? Yeah, he's

24:19

got it down. So

24:21

good. Well, Matthew, you're obviously incredibly

24:23

busy. Go tend to those Komodo

24:25

or your reptiles and all of

24:27

it. And everyone listen. You

24:29

did incredible on The Masked Singer.

24:32

And we're sad to see you

24:34

unmasked because you are fantastic. I

24:36

wasn't. You

24:39

were ready. You were ready to go.

24:41

I was ready, guys. I

24:43

love it. Okay, well, you're the best.

24:45

And I got to say. I, I,

24:48

so I met you years, like years

24:50

ago and there's a different lightness to

24:52

you that I see now. Cause I

24:54

always thought, I mean, you might just,

24:56

you might be an introvert, but I

24:58

just, there's, there's a different lightness to

25:00

you that I feel and see in

25:02

you now. And yeah, I just wanted

25:04

you to know that. Yeah.

25:07

I, you know, I've just been re -inspired

25:09

for life and, you know, I have my

25:11

faith and everything's, yeah. going the right

25:13

direction. I appreciate it. I love it. All

25:15

right. Have a great day, Matthew. All

25:17

right. Yeah, absolutely. Bye -bye. I

25:19

mean, my high school sweetheart's name was Matthew.

25:21

So I like, I just have like a little

25:23

warm spot. I do. I have thing for

25:25

a things thing for Matthew, but no, I actually

25:28

did. I met Matthew with

25:30

Cheryl when he was still married to

25:32

Cheryl at dancing with the stars. And it

25:34

just like Cheryl Burke was his ex -wife.

25:36

All right. And she's very vocal about

25:38

her healing, you know, journey and all that

25:40

stuff. And we actually dance to, TLC

25:43

together when we were at the

25:45

I heart awards for some I heart

25:47

radio award thing. And I think

25:49

it was cathartic for her in that

25:51

moment too. Cause I'm like, you

25:53

know what? Let's go out there. What

25:55

did you choose? I don't use

25:57

them a lot. Big words, but that

25:59

cathartic. Thanks, Ben. Anyways,

26:01

Matthew Lawrence, go listen to all his

26:03

things. And go to the zoo.

26:05

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26:07

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